So is that "My Chemical Romance" track going to be an 'unexpected' number one?

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Only, I'm expecting it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps Jonathan King wasn't expecting it.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

I fucking love this. More pomp-emo, plz.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

haven't heard it but saw a photo of the band and thus don't want to.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

lexrique morelike

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

i quite like their get-up in the video

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

i've been ignoring guitar music since the lower sixth, son.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

We all know you're ignorant, pal.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

i think these people are almost as bad as the arctic monkeys. really disgusting, awful music. they make me want to bully them.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

lex otm

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

God they must be really wussy.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

you indie kids hate us emos

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

it's ALL indie, i'm not being taken in by this hair-splitting flim-flammery.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

It is so not indie.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

enrique otm. it's all indie, it's all disgusting, and it should all be bullied off the dancefloor with sticks (where sticks = paris hilton).

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

MCR are American and the word "indie" actually means something in America, so no, they are not indie.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

just look at them. it SCREAMS indie.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

They don't look like any indiekids I've ever seen.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

They have different fanbases, totally. This is very important.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

(They look worse, but that's neither here nor there.)

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.emohairstyles.info/my-chemical-romance.php

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

different kinds of indie but indie nonetheless. it's like a subgenre of indie which against all the odds seems to be based on being even more pathetic and kickable than indie itself. the existence of emo serves only to prove that the BULLIES WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

They have different fanbases, totally.

moody teenagers vs... other moody teenagers?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400953&in_page_id=1770

EMO cult warning for parents

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

you got to love a picture caption writer who comes up with "Parents warned over the new EMO goth danger"

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Moody teenagers listen to indie? I always associated indie with smartass college students in dorky glasses.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

MCR = goth (image, themes) emo (whininess) pop (OTT bluster and prettiness of it all) convergence

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I actually think the post-Strokes haircut indie fanbase has gone beyond the teenage things now. It's now music for people who were 14-16 when the first Strokes album came out - they've grown up with the music.

Emo is to 00's indie what nu-metal was to 2000 Britpop hangover indie.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

rodney, what happens to moody teenagers when the go to college?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

They turn 20?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Discover girls that actually want to have sex with them?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

only if they join a band

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Realise the music they thought was cool outsider music is what everyone else likes and start playing one Kompakt CD really loudly in order look different?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Give the Paris Hilton album 5/5 in the campus magazine?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

some of those things possibly... but moody teenagers and college smartasses (who often used to be moody teenagers right?) are both core indie demographics.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Drop out after the first year and go to Cardiff?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Start writing for Plan B?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Enrique, can I take that as a concession that me & Matt are right? But anyways, I don't think I knew anyone who listened to indie when I was in high school. People were into.....um.....Limp Bixkit and Korn and stuff.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

major x-postness

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha matt

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

also everyone's like "the nme hates emo" but MCR were mentioned about a grillion times on the front page of the website last i looked. this is further evidence they are indie.

like muse.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

aren't muse, nu-prog now?

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Muse are MCR's #1 Myspace friend!

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

right, i had guessed they pobably sounded muse-y.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

they are supporting muse will be why, dom

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i blame mansun

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming that's in the UK and/or Russia rather than in America.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

yes, mansun too. their (mcr's) guy was dressed like the guy from mansun. too shaming.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

all the points of reference being bandied around are so ghastly that i have no idea who is pro this shit and who is sane and anti it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

MCR = Mansun + Manson

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Mansun were great! Dark Star (probably the actual progenitors/influence on Muse) were fucking awesome, Muse are/were bearable-ok-ish apart from that godawful supermassive blackhole thing, My Chemical Romance stink.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

hang on, is this the single that's in the charts now? a number 1 CLIMBING to number one. monstrous.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's like the old days of Dave Stewart with Barbara Gaskin.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

anyone wants the Dark Star album, i couldn't get shot of it on ebay :-(

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I've already got it. I want the second one, but they never put it out :(

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

can you buy this song on 7" BLACK vinyl?

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

suggestion: Dark Star influenced The Music as much as Muse (i.e. a bit)

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

they don't sound all that Muse-y at all, Enrique! They sound like... punk-pop, except with loads of bluster and eyeliner and histrionixxx; so there's a lot of surface things shared, but the core of the songs is structurally very different. you can sing 'all the small things' over the top of 'i'm not okay (i promise)', it's really fun.

I might just go out and buy this :D

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

they don't sound all that Muse-y at all, Enrique!

no falsetto, less of a....dance music element...

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

...which is odd, cos P!ATD have that whole dance-music-element thing going on - and more of the angular mathrock-y chop-change guitar thing - but they sound even less like Muse?

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

have i heard P!ATD? (I have heard OF them)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

no falsetto, less of a....dance music element...

-- ;_; (n...)

ROFL

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

This whole thread is deeply funny.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

have i heard P!ATD? (I have heard OF them)
-- Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (AlanTrewarth...), October 13th, 2006.

why risk it?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

they're called panic! at the disco for fuck's sake.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

welcome to the black parade is even better than the looks like a jeebers song. more queeny than meat loaf which is a pity. it's not going to be number one. i wanted to be sure but cool clarity seems to have gone. confused.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

P!ATD's whole schtick is RnB production on rock tho, innit?

"Welcome to the Black Parade" is kinda like a "Minority" by Green Day for 2006, only with less "pretension" and more pretension.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

The P!ATD song is great too.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Good as all these songs are, nothing in rock right now is as good as the new Me First and the Gimme Gimmes album. FACT.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

And being more like Queen than The Loaf is a good thing, ffs.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

i had no idea how deeply emo had infiltrated the very heart of ilm :(

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's actually a little too queen-y for me, but I feel like I should support it in its attempt to crack number one, if only so I can dance to it at club popular and go NER NER YOU ARE ALL OLD AND DO NOT LOVE THE YOUNG PEOPLE'S EMOGOTH.

...how is it like minority? wasn't minority just a green day single that sounded like other green day singles, but came after a little while away and did a bit well?

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

They don't look like any indiekids I've ever seen.

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/.Archives/2001/10/26/aecranberries.gif
http://www.aozj96.dsl.pipex.com/mcr.jpg

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

also: i did not know P!ATD had an actual r'n'b production schtick! i had only got as far as 'they are really magpie about the stuf in their records, eh.'

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair, I only like emo when its not being all emo and stuff. I'd rather shoot myself than listen to say, Simple Plan.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

MCR guy just looks like the lovechild of Billies Corgan and Idol in the video.

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

...how is it like minority? wasn't minority just a green day single that sounded like other green day singles, but came after a little while away and did a bit well?

"Warning" doesn't sound like any other Green Day album really, it's got all this weird kind of "mature rockabilly" feel to a lot of it, it's actually the best Green Day album there is ("Misery" is the best song they've everm recorded, right?), and it figures that it bombed leading to American fucking Idiot.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

i don't even begin to understand that comparission dom. i have been watching music tv solidly all day and can say that i now know that panic! etc are also great. i have not seen the new meat loaf video today. meat loaf is soooo great. meat loaf + archers of loaf = modern emo pop amirite?

― pscott (elwisty), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.aozj96.dsl.pipex.com/mcr.jpg

SCOOTER GIVE CRAZY SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE EMO KIDDIES IN THE AUDIENCE. MAKE SOME NOOOOOOIIIISSSSEEEE

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Billy, yr imgs don't work.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

they work for me

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

DAVE IS NOT ON THE TRAIN :(

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Work for me too!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Well, aren't you guys special.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

nyaah nyaah

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

you've got to do the secret ilx handshake to see them.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

i had no idea how deeply emo had infiltrated the very heart of ilm :(

neither had i :(

panic at the disco are vile.

queen are the second worst band ever to exist after oasis.

people need more pussycat dolls in their lives. unfeeling sexbots with NO EMOTIONS WHATSOEVER.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Curses, foiled etc.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, do you like Queen's disco stuff?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

unfeeling sexbots with NO EMOTIONS WHATSOEVER.

You mean we're not already?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

queen are the second worst band ever to exist after oasis.

Oh no, you didn't!

people need more pussycat dolls in their lives. unfeeling sexbots with NO EMOTIONS WHATSOEVER.

The only song of theres I like is the one where drop the unfeeling sexbot thing. Otherwise, they scare me.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, do you like Queen's disco stuff?

The only song of theres I like is the one where drop the unfeeling sexbot thing. Otherwise, they scare me.

if they scare you then you can't 'identify' with them and they don't 'feel your pain' = NO MORE EMO HURRAH

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

(my favourite PCD song = 'buttonz')

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I take it that's a no then?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm somehow not too worried that I can't identify with the Pussycat Dolls. Really, I'm not.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

This is such a rediculous thread.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

why am i so rubbish at GIS? pls to imagine pix of mattie jay with horrible bleached hair in early days of busted.

ridiculous is good!

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

i think pussycat dolls stand for everything i am FOR in pop, and my chemical romance everything i am AGAINST.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

off the fence at last!

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dialectics are indie.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

things PCDs and MCR have in common - an epic saga:

1) average lamb dressed as much younger tastier lamb

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

my chemical romance are still not indie. i think lex likes trivium.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Can I just post this before we continue?

http://myspace-926.vo.llnwd.net/00958/62/99/958499926_l.jpg

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

2) They're really fucking ugly.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

but - going back a sec - in that case I think 'warning' (the single) would be a better example of green day being unexpected? The stomp-stomp-stomp of minority is quite typical, the warning single was much more 'huh? oh, that's new', I seem to remember. Mind you the only green day album i've listened to in full was 'nimrod', a very long time ago.

both PCD and MCR represent things I stand for in pop, but MCR are wayyyyyy better, sorryz The Lex.

xpost all-american rejects, lulz

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

is trivium a band?

cis, 'buttonz'! mcr will never ever ever come up with a hookline like "loosen up my buttonz" and neither will they provoke 'big' snoop dogg to say "yeah i tawt i taw a pussycat"!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Well, on a base level, "Minority" was upbeat without being "moshy", which was a first for a GD single surely?

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

'Warning' is a really fucking boring song.

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Minority" = icky white guilt bullshit. My friend always sings it around me and I want to slap him.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Trivium are POP!~ Lex, they're top 40 and everything.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

also everyone's like "the nme hates emo" but MCR were mentioned about a grillion times on the front page of the website last i looked. this is further evidence they are indie.

This is a silly argument, since it mostly hinges on a US/UK discrepancy in how "indie" is used, but since I'm American, the fact that they're on the front page of a very mainstream music publication, the fact that this thread starts out wondering whether they'll hit #1 on the singles chart, would sort of indicate that they're not indie, or at least the way it's used in the US. (Even in a day when the Decemberists are signed to Capitol.) I'm not really sure what the UK definition is, besides bands with guitars that young people like, because really, that could be anyone from Wolf Parade to Papa Roach over here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

dom i do not trust you of all people on POP!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://roadrage.imagina.pl/trivium.jpg

Being skinny = pop.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Standing beneath damaged corrugated iron = pop

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

oh YUCK they look awful!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

and they're not as skinny as nicole richie or me

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Analexia nervosa?

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

indie is just a joke word for brits on ilm now. would advise americans to avoid the thorny topic altogther if confused/bemused. i don't know if there are ANY bands in the UK anymore that are JUST indie, as opposed to hybridz of that and something else (punk, pop, whatever).

― ;_; (blueski), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Indie" in UK terms sort of roughly functions as "alt rock" in US terms, since the '90's at least, I think?

They ARE awful, Lex.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if there are ANY bands in the UK anymore that are JUST indie, as opposed to hybridz of that and something else (punk, pop, whatever)

Track and Field, innit?

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

lol at guy on extreme right of Trivium's self-harm scars. EMO.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

mcr will never ever ever come up with a hookline like "loosen up my buttonz" and neither will they provoke 'big' snoop dogg to say "yeah i tawt i taw a pussycat"!

this is, i think, one of their strengths.

but surely the awesomeness of buttonz -and of everything PCD do - partly lies in how unexciting they are? that they're so bald and straightforward a genre exercise, and that genre is vaguely-orientalist-sinuous-r'n'b, it's not something to make your heart leap into your throat (which is the affect that MCR are trying to recreate and focus on, using the tim-honoured method of big slamming guitars and shouty-but-not-screamy singing and big pop choruses). man cannot live by knockoff scott storch productions alone.

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Scott Storch is the Great Satan.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ Trivium clip on "youtube" where they sound exactly like THERAPY.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

in comparision to mcr are trivium minimal?

― pscott (elwisty), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Scott Storch is Great.

-- Rodney is a group! (rodneyjgreen...), October 13th, 2006 4:34 PM. (R. J. Greene)

fixed.

the tim-honoured method of big slamming guitars and shouty-but-not-screamy singing and big pop choruses

but only GIRLS can ever get away with this! in fact i think only GIRLS can ever get away with self-pity, not just in pop but in ALL ART EVER: when a boy does it i just get irritated by how FEEBLE he is.

man cannot live by knockoff scott storch productions alone.

this is where one turns to the BOBBINS! the knife and the allien and so on.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

time-honoured, even; I cannot type. (maybe tim-honoured as well? i don't know.)

Lex why are you such a sexist! Girls are allowed to be weak and boys aren't? You are such a victim of traditional gender roles. :((

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Haha

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I really want to know who's kissin' Kristin and if Ashley's dating Zac now. Kogan to thread!

(on second thoughts, don't bother Frank)

(MCR are totally teenpop tho' - in that they have a huge teenage gothgirl fanbase in UK)

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

What will happen next:

a) Mr Snrub turns up making an utterly bemused comment
b) US poster turns up going "this thread is so fucking British"
c) Lex and Dom lez up while listening to Morningwood

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Lex why are you such a sexist! Girls are allowed to be weak and boys aren't? You are such a victim of traditional gender roles. :((

girls are allowed to be strong as well! and boys aren't unless they're 50 cent.

all the boys i like in pop music are one, some or all of a) rappers b) gay c) silent (as in DJs)

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

all the boys i like in pop music are one, some or all of a) rappers b) gay c) silent (as in DJs)

(LL Cool J joke)

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Who is the gay rapper?

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a photo of Pete Wentz from Fall Out Boy wanking off onto his webcam. NSFW:

http://www.jossip.com/gossip/200603-petewentzx4-thumb.jpg

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

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― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

ah, so lex doesn't like pop men. except PSBs? (who are indie)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there you go.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

15/10/2006: EVERYTHING CHANGED

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

ah, so lex doesn't like pop men. except PSBs?

i like pop men if they are gay, or if they are hip-hop, or if they are house dudes. psb fit into category 1.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

more gay hip-hop house dudes please

― ;_; (blueski), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

Do you allow non singing non-house people (ie- dubstep) then The Lex? And I thought you liked the latest Scott Walker too, neither gay,(to my knowledge) house, nor hip hop! But of course he doesn't sing of his OWN angst, does he? Yr not sposed to identify with it...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

ok i heard this so-called song over the weekend. or about half of it. and the green day comparison is about right.

but in some ways it just reminded me of 'christmas time (don't let the bells end)'. just because there are lots of guitar bands doesn't mean they're not all the same. anyway it sucks.

but sadly i can't go for this:

people need more pussycat dolls in their lives. unfeeling sexbots with NO EMOTIONS WHATSOEVER.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), October 13th, 2006.

and i saw the knife on saturday and was more impressed by the interior of the venue than anything...

wasn't made for these times, holmes.

― benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

i saw the knife on saturday too nrq! i really enjoyed it apart from feeling a bit ill.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I've only just heard this on the radio today - the opening bit is quite interesting, then it promptly turns into a Lostprophets b-side. Eugh.

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Lex-abian!

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

more gay hip-hop house dudes please

http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drc500/c580/c58070dvi23.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

indie bands be shook

― pscott (elwisty), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Singer Tom Meighan said: "It's like ventriloquists' music. It's weird and dark. They don't have anything positive to say. The only good news is that it won't last. These clowns won't be around for much longer.
"Their make-up will flake off and the scene will die out. And it can't happen soon enough."
Guitarist Serge Pizzorno added: "I just can't relate to it. We are about decadence, having a good time and getting off your head. We champion youthful rebellion.
"We're into peace and love, spreading harmony and having respect for people. But these people are the absolute opposite. It's sad.

"These emo kids should get out more and try and have a good time instead."

Such stupidity!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

both kasabian and mcr should be locked in a room with nothing to listen to except yummy bingham. they might learn something.

that, or their faces should all be stamped on.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I SECOND THE MOTION.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I can see why the kids are all emo and depressed when the other option is to listen to Kasabian.

― The Real Esteban Buttez (EstieButtez1), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

the OTHER option is to listen to ciara!

thankfully most proper kids have chosen this.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Ciara totally has higher record sales among the 13-18 year old demographic than My Chemical Romance.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

"proper kids" dom

― pscott (elwisty), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

are you suggesting that she is not popular with 13-18 yr olds?

as you know i am not one for putting much stock in chart positions but i do note that no ciara single has failed to make the top 5.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

my point would stand even better with beyoncé as an example! haha are you going to try and claim that the kids prefer MCR to beyoncé?

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

or pussycat dolls? or sean paul? haha

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

as you know i am not one for putting much stock in chart positions but i do note that no ~~ciara~~Steve Brookstein single has failed to make the ~~top 5~~ number one.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

beyoncé

She should totally go Russian.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

as you know i am not one for putting much stock in chart positions but i do note that no ciaraSteve Brookstein single has failed to make the top 5 number one.

are you saying that this MCR no 1 is meaningless? poor the MCR

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Goodies is double-platinum in the U.S. and gold in the U.K. Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge is platinum in the U.S. and not certified in the U.K. Of course, we can't prove who's buying the records.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Aliens.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

ah but who has sold the more merchandise...

― pscott (elwisty), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

YEAH LIKE HETEROSEXUAL TEENAGE BOYS ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO CIARA, LEX!!

I guess they might have a wank over her, through.

― The Real Esteban Buttez (EstieButtez1), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

YEAH LIKE HETEROSEXUAL TEENAGE BOYS ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO CIARA, LEX!!

I guess they might have a wank over ~~her~~Gerard Way, through.

fixed

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

They'll listen to her on the radio and like her songs (I've witnessed ostensibly straight teenage boys sing along to her), but won't buy her albums.

― Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

ostensibly straight

Only one way to find out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I guess they might have a wank over Gerard Way, through.

lol u thought the guys from hanson were really girls lol

― The Real Esteban Buttez (EstieButtez1), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

x-post I'll leave that up to you. : D

― Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

field mobb feat. ciara has the distinction of being the only single that fell from its download position after its single release on the chart so far. It didn't even make the top 40.

― danzig (danzig), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

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