NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003830076
THIS FALL, lol

at least it's coming out on CD and DVD though.

yeah! i look forward to enjoying it in my own inferior non blu ray way

"Blu Ray Way" is one of the most underrated Beatles song ever...

When I read a story about this thing, I take whatever is said, especially if it's by Neil, and I add a "not" in front of it.

But I want to believe.

I'll believe it when it's in my hands

my friends, let's laff again
http://bad-news-beat.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2385

the sugar mountain thing sounds cool ... really, neil should just keep releasing these performance series things at a steady pace.

lol @ "production issues"

the upcoming Sugar Mountain release should be great -- here's the tracklisting:
Sugar Mountain Live (Nov. 9-10, 1968)
'(Emcee intro)'
'On The Way Home'
'Songwriting rap'
'Mr. Soul'
'Recording rap'
'Expecting To Fly'
'The Last Trip To Tulsa'
'Bookstore rap'
'The Loner'
'"I used to" rap'
'Birds'
'Winterlong' (excerpt) and 'Out of My Mind' (intro)
'Out Of My Mind'
'If I Could Have Her Tonight'
'Classical Gas rap'
'Sugar Mountain' (intro)
'Sugar Mountain'
'I've Been Waiting For You'
'Songs rap'
'Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing'
'Tuning Rap & The Old Laughing Lady' (intro)
'The Old Laughing Lady'
'Broken Arrow'

NEIL RAPS

GODFATHER OF CRUNGE

Place your orders/bets:

http://www.amazon.com/Neil-Young-Archives-1963-Blue-Ray/dp/B001B8PV4U

January 27, 2009

so is there really not going to be a plain old CD release of this? i see amazon has the blu ray and dvd versions ... both of which i can't afford or listen to.

lol @ $300. I know Neil is in his own world, but I can't imagine this is a good time to release music with that price tag. I hope there's a CD set, b/c I'd like to buy this, but Neil must have some idea how this stuff will work out otherwise in 2009.

Dudes its not even Blu-Ray, Blue-Ray. Neil is WORKING ON NEW TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THIS AWESOMELY AWESOME AND WORTH $300.

Don't worry, Neil Young has a winning economic plan that ties in with the Archives.

http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/neil-young-130.jpg

does his hybrid lincoln continental have a blu ray machine is what i want to know

The archives box will be a bit too much for me, really. But does this mean that his back catalogue will finally get remastered afterwards too?

I mean, I can manage without what he has done for the past 35 years or so, but up to and including "Harvest", everything he did was great, whether it was alone, with CSNY or with Buffalo Springfield.

I got to check out all the archives stuff last night while we were at the studio, what do people want to know

Studio now has a "this parking space reserved for biofueled vehicles ONLY" parking sign lolz

well for one is it really coming out? and on cd or just some bullshit blueray thing?

does it have the full "Bluebird"?

how much unheard stuff is there from the Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere sessions?

i would like a six-disc boxset of alternate studio versions of cowgirl in the sand please

yes it is really coming out. it will be on Blu-Ray. Seems like most of the hold up is related to all the fancy Blu-Ray programming required (I didn't press too hard on when things would be done or why they were late since that would've been pretty rude). I talked to the tech who's working on it and he ran through a bunch of the menus and extras on the discs - apparently one of the issues that took a bunch of time was how to make it so that you could be playing music from the disc while going through the menus (apparently this is not currently possible on most Blu-Rays?) The menus and graphics are INSANE - all these ridiculously high-res memorabilia photos and tour manifests and handwritten lyrics and stuff like that. I saw 9 discs in all being prepared, saw the sleeve mockups, etc. There was a disc devoted to Journey Through the Past, two discs titled Topanga Canyon (one 1969, the other 1970), the Massey Hall stuff, some Buffalo Springfield stuff. I can't remember all of it.

I dunno how much unreleased stuff will be on it. Guy played me a great Buffalo Springfield song that I didn't recognize but I dunno if it was unreleased. There are boxes and boxes of tapes so I wasn't sure what was gonna get used or not (I expressed a particular interest in the box labelled "Human Highway" but the guy just laughed)

Wanna hear the Mr Soul demo.

hm! i thought there wouldn't be a bunch of springfield stuff on it, since most of it came out on the box set a few years back. but i guess there is all kindsa multimedia crap. were there everybody knows this is nowhere outtakes?

That Springfield thing was one of the worst box sets ever assembled.

the fourth disk of the Springfield box was indeed bullshit but the first three disks have many treats well-worth digging through, esp. Neil's demos, "Kahuna Sunset", "Buffalo Stomp". I could do without most of Stills' "Latin" excursions though.

also re. Blueray FUCK YOU NEIL

Poor Stills!

yeah, what's the matter with the BS box set? a lot of good stuff on the first three discs ... and it's not on blueray ... still bummed about that. am i really going to have to get the music illegally? buying a blue ray just ain't happening at the moment ...

No long version of "Bluebird" (the one from the 1973 2LP comp) and one of the ugliest most-unreadable book designs ever.

I think there are Everybody Knows This is Nowhere outtakes. I have no idea if this will be released on CD as well as Blu-Ray - given how the stuff that's already been released has gone out on CD I would think there would be but I don't really know. They seem to be spending a lot of time making this the be-all end-all of high quality Blu-Ray product though. Kinda ridiculous.

but i guess there is all kindsa multimedia crap

ooh hi-res photos of the BS guys reading Teen Magazine!

haha, yeah that layout is really bad, isn't it? i've got a boot called "the missing herd" that collects most of the stuff that wasn't included on the BS box set. still, there's so much good stuff on it! those acoustic demos of stuff like "out of my mind"!

yeah "There Goes My Babe" is such a hot opener.

I can't express how disappointed I'll be if this thing only comes out in Blu-Ray. I'd like, you know, OPTIONS for when and where I listen to this stuff - not just sitting in my living room in front of the entertainment center.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/24385831/neil_young_opens_up_the_vaults_with_crazy_horse_disc_box_set/4
sounds like it'll "eventually" come out on CD and on itunes ... which is good.

and i am really excited about the sugar mountain 1968 concert -- that's really the first of these archive performance releases that's never been bootlegged. and this shelved 2000 crazy horse album too! go ahead, release it all, dude!

you can listen to the entire Sugar Mountain show on NPR
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97253221

yeah, listening now ... sounds great. neil is kind of chatty cathy on this one. lots of interesting versions of springfield songs and stuff from the first solo record.

does he really come up with winterlong out of the blue like that on stage?

ha, i could be wrong, but I think that maybe "Winterlong" is even older than that ... like one of his earliest songs? would be impressive though if that was just an off the cuff riff ...

Archives Vol. 1 : not January 27th. What a surprise.

Instead: new album, Toast

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/12/04/neil-young-therell-never-be-another-crazy-horse/

"It’s old, so it doesn’t really matter when it comes out." heh heh. This Sugar Mountain live disc is great, anyway. And TOAST sounds interesting! When is he going to put out a Tonight's The Night era concert, for god's sake?

It was recorded in the same place where Coltrane was recorded, so there’s a lot of heavy stuff in there.

"Toast" was recorded in Rudy van Gelder's studio? Or is Neil sitting on a long-delayed Trane tribute album?

"It’s old, so it doesn’t really matter when it comes out." heh heh. This Sugar Mountain live disc is great, anyway. And TOAST sounds interesting! When is he going to put out a Tonight's The Night era concert, for god's sake?

You know what would be a surreal release? A double/triple LP from the Tonight's the Night tour of England, featuring both the opening act (Eagles) and Young. I can only dream.

at least Neil's saying it will come out on CD, if it comes out before the end of time (necessary caveat since it's Neil)

here's the info on TOAST -- not sure what Coltrane would've recorded in San Fran, but who knows?
In 2000, Crazy Horse was in San Francisco, south of Market street, at an old studio called "Toast." Coltrane had recorded there, among many other jazz greats, known and unknown. The Dot Com boom was happening and buildings were being bought and turned into lofts or torn down completely and rebuilt. New money was everywhere. Toast was a target. The place was a little run down and sort of on its last legs.
To a man, if you asked Crazy Horse about these sessions, you would learn that it was a depressing atmosphere and things were not going well. The band recorded there for months and came up with very little. Nothing, other than one song, "Goin' Home" was ever finished. But a lot was started. Several of the songs written at Toast showed up on the "Are You Passionate" album with Booker T. and the MGs. But that album met with mixed reaction.
Now, years later, John Hanlon, the original co-producer with Neil, is at work mixing all of the Toast material. Many songs share a bluesy, jazz-tinged vibe as a common thread. Three solid rockers are interspersed in the mix. Other songs are long with extensive explorations between verses, a Crazy Horse trademark, kind of like a down-played Tonight's the Night, except these songs deal directly with love and loss, not drugs. The ambient atmosphere, foggy, blue and desolate, pervades many of the tracks, if not all, with Tommy Brea's muted trumpet and dusky male and female counter-part BGs occasionally surfacing from Poncho and Ralph on one side, Nancy Hall and Pegi Young on the other. A cool and sleepy lounge piano rises in the fog occasionally.
The result of this is perhaps one of the most under-estimated and deceptive Crazy Horse records of all time, with many songs originally discarded, and then re-recorded with Booker T. and the MGs. The original performances now surface again through a foggy past. Like an abstract painting, lyrical images of a love lost and maybe even destroyed forever just refuse to die, creating a landscape littered with half-broken dreams and promises.
"Toast" is coming, a dark Crazy Horse classic for the ages. This first NYA "Special Edition" is the beginning of a new series of unreleased albums.

will be cool to see what comes out of the "Special Edition" NYA things ... "Homegrown" finally? "Chrome Dreams"? The second unreleased Trans-style album?

i have a bootleg of what's supposedly the original chrome dreams. it's pretty awesome.

yeah, you can get the best version here: http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/2008/05/neil-young-chrome-dreams-rust.html
maybe better than american stars n bars (which came out in its place ...)
but it is kind of cool that neil is putting out an unreleased record that no one's even heard of, much less bootlegged. I kind of don't think it's going to be as rad as the description above suggests, but it sounds fun anyway.

really loving this Sugar Mtn. release -- definitely a wonderful snapshot of Neil Young before he really became NEIL YOUNG. Will be interesting to see if he continues releasing these "Performance Series" discs. Seems like each one is corresponding to an album
Sugar Mountain = Self Titled
Fillmore 1970 = Everybody Knows ...
Massey Hall = After the Gold Rush
Would be great if he expanded Time Fades Away to go along with Harvest, and yeah, put out a live Tonight's the Night show. And of course, for ZUMA, put out one of those Japanese shows. Those are incredible.

I wanted it to have a mode where you didn’t have to watch it, where you could just listen to it, and there’d be like a screen saver thing up there.

^^^^what did I fucking tell you

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Music_on_High-Def/Neil_Youngs_Archives_Gets_Date,_Specs/2323

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001B8PV4U

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Vr8sVjHZL._SS420_.jpg

Only $323.99 at Amazon!

Looking at this picture makes me wish there was some sort of equivalent Neu! boxset.

Jeez, that thing costs more than the actual Blu-Ray player I'd need to buy to listen to it.

yeah this is ridiculous. But so is Neil.

ok i don't usually use my job to get freebies that we won't probably cover but i may make an exception

Run Time: 1200 minutes

Is it possible to buy the rack in the background?

As near as I can tell, TOAST was recorded at what was once "Coast Recorders" in SF, apparently changed to "Toast" sometime down the line.

Date: 22 September 1965.

Place: ‘Coast Recorders’, San Francisco CA.

Ensemble: John Coltrane Quartet: John Coltrane soprano sax, tenor sax, McCoy Tyner piano, Jimmy Garrison bass, Elvin Jones drums,

Recording:

Recording Engineer:

Alternative Issues:

Recent Available Issue: John Coltrane Quartet, Coltrane The Classic Quartet - Complete Impulse Studio Recordings, Impulse! IMPD8-280, Disc 7;Impulse!, A9225, for this item.

1. Joy (12:10)

http://neilyoungarchives.warnerbrosrecords.com/

but also http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/16/neil-young-fork-in-the-road

"The video – clearly a webcam recording of Old Shakey chomping on an apple, mouthing along, cotton buds in his ears – doesn't inspire much confidence. A few minutes in, he sings about blogging. Later in the video he plays air guitar as a flat-screen TV seems to be repossessed."

LOL

"A few minutes in, he sings about blogging."

... lol?

cd box set version is pretty reasonably priced :)

would love to see the blu ray thing but not for $300

yeah I'll be getting the cd version, even $200 for the dvd is kinda ridic. I mean how often are you going to want to watch Journey Through The Past? Hopefully I can borrow it from somebody once, but if not, the tunes are where it's at.

yeah, it's not ridiculously priced or anything -- hopefully the book does not take its layout cues from the booklet in the Buffalo Springfield box set ... !

yeah i am bummed they didn't include that but you're right, that seems like something you watch once and never again...

99 for 8 CDs and nice packaging is pretty awesome actually...glad i held out on buying massey hall, though i couldn't stop myself from buying the fillmore gig

xpost: you are going to watch Journey Through the Past exactly once.

xpost: you are going to watch Journey Through the Past exactly once.

and i am apparently posting that twice

feeling glad I didn't buy the massey hall or crazy horse cds, and I think it's pretty lame to include them here.

yeah, I bought a bootleg of Eat the Document a few years back, watched it once, got nauseous, and gave it to my brother. From what I've heard, Journey Through the Past is less worthy.

eat the document at least is kind of beautifully filmed in parts. Journey is just kind of gross and boring for the most part. There's some LOLs in there, but it's pretty tiresome overall.

"Got a pot belly," Young sings, "It's not too big / Gets in my way / When I'm driving my rig."

^^A+

So glad there's going to be a CD-version! If it ever actually comes out. But kinda bummed that I was over-eager and bought the Fillmore and Massey discs.

yeah, well, who could resist? the fillmore and the massey discs are incredible! just irritating that i'm going to pay for them twice ...

I got the Fillmore one on vinyl recently, its great.

fillmore's gotta be one of the top 10 live albums of all time for me.

yeah...cowgirl in the sand is so epic on that

these neil young fans who don't like "fork in the road" are dumbasses, the song is hot stuff. the video's kinda lame in a funny way - OH SHOCKER, NEIL YOUNG FANS - neil thinks videos are a joke? really? you don't fuckin say.

I'm a big rock star
my sales have tanked
I still got you
thanks

i'm still trying to wrap my head around the greendale movie which i saw a few months ago

but honestly i never get mad if neil makes stuff that is really painfully o_O or just bad...that's all part of neil being neil. he's gotta make like 4 weirdo records for every normal-ish "good" one

Greendale's about the same level of quality as the rest of Neil's movie projects.

I find it weird that there are still Neil Young fans who get angry at him for doing weird, inscrutable, fairly half-assed things. This is what he's done his entire career!

I never bought Fillmore and Massey because I knew they were going to be on here -- and i'm getting this as soon as it comes out obviously -- but woah, there is no Canterbury thing on here!

Hadn't bought that yet either ... now I guess I have to, yay!

look I love Neil's half-assed stuff too but writing about blogging...

not too far removed from "computer love"

he's not really "writing about blogging" - it's one verse in, what, ten? -

keep on blogging
til the power goes out
and the battery's dead
twist and shout -

I think it's pretty self-aware, not "maybe if I say 'blog' I'll seem current"

Neil Young is a tremendous artist, possibly on par with The Who but in a different style, playing his country rock. My favorite record has always been Ragged Glory for White Line. About trucking or cocaine I wonder?

It's not about cocaine - he wrote it decades before Ragged Glory, slightly different lyrics and the title 'River of Pride'. Great song though.

Oh I see. Yes a great song.

Also I think 'Fork in the Road' is great, or, at least the idea of it is great. I probably won't listen to the song more than 10 times in my life, but it does have some great lines. 'I got hope. But you can't eat hope' = zeitgeist of 1/2009 in 8 words.

He's an old fogey and it comes through once in a while (Twist and Shout reference, vinyl stubbornness) but he's the type of old dude who's always willing to live in the contemporary world instead of the 1960s - both musically and politically.

ok I'm getting kinda excited about this, I am appreciating the positive anticipation for this here

Excited about the new album Neil's going to put out instead of the archives? YEAHHHH. But for real, stuff like "Fork in the Road" is a big part of being a Neil Young fan! He's a lovable curmudgeon! Does what he wants! It's been that way ... forever.

haha, that archives site is now:

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You don't have permission to access / on this server.

no way! vicious, as that trailer was pretty cool.

finally listening to A Treasure the Neil country International Harvesters thing....gotta say, while it's certainly better than Old Ways which as bad as some of his albums have been might be the absolutely worst for me personally....a lot of this is kinda shit :|

I like Amber Jean and the version of Flying on the Ground is Wrong is pretty...actually I really like the version of Southern Pacific and Grey Riders

buuuut...man the real "country songs" on here are really fucking phony and annoying....god "Motor City" is right up there with "Let's Roll" or "This Note's for You"...obv I love Neil to death but his real strident obvious songs are just barf to me

or basically haha the album isn't bad when Neil Young is being Neil Young with a slightly kooky country band but when he tries to play the role as some kinda country singer it's really fucking bad in my opinion

it makes a case for the country years, for sure -- things like "southern pacific" and "grey riders" are fantastic. but neil's "voice of the people" country stuff can be a bit hard to swallow, it's true. you kind of want to think he's just trolling reagan america, but that might be giving it too much credit.

it's missing this great version of "interstate" which is a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc65mHWrS1k

you kind of want to think he's just trolling reagan america, but that might be giving it too much credit.

yeah i'm reading shakey again now and i think he was into that schtick for real - he seems really changeable (haha obviously)

i mean, it's good he put it out, at least you see well there was SOMETHING going on there, cuz god like i said Old Ways is just awfully produced and just such a horrid attempt at "country"...but hell, I guess it's got a few gems I would put on a Neil mix like Grey Riders especially

yeah, i think it's an interesting release for sure -- a lot of the 80s albums would be better served by live collections like this. i need to re-up those "Bad News" 80s comps I did a few years back --did you get those?

since this is the neil young thread on the front page today ... here's this.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-trademarks-new-audio-format-20120403
sounds ... intriguing?

yeah, i think it's an interesting release for sure -- a lot of the 80s albums would be better served by live collections like this. i need to re-up those "Bad News" 80s comps I did a few years back --did you get those?

― tylerw, Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:22 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i think so? I have an "album" called "Weird Young" in my ipod hahahaha

it's these things
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/104317711/more-bad-news-neil-young-in-the-1980s-vol-2
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/101626891/bad-news-neil-young-in-the-1980s-vol-1

The audio format is a good idea, and more power to him...but "Neil Young says this audio format is sonically superior" is right up there with "mastering personally overseen by Pete Townshend." In other words, someone who's spent decades playing loud, and is pushing 70, maybe doesn't have the hearing to be the go-to authority on this kind of thing.

he blames the mixing sessions for arc/weld for permanently damaging his hearing, appara

I blame Neil for supporting too many stupid audio/video formats. Just remaster your fucking albums, you knob.

Yeah, Neil's got a history of dabbling with sketchy audio wankery:

Time Fades Away was recorded directly from the soundboard to 16-track using the Quad-8 CompuMix, the unreliable first digital mixing soundboard—against the wishes of producer David Briggs, who referred to it as the "Compufuck" but was forced to yield to the desires of Young. This resulted in a murky-sounding release.

There were no 2 track masters ever made of this record. The master discs were cut directly from the 16 track masters through the Compumix system. A mix was recorded to a second 16 track machine--we had 2 that would run perfectly together--to feed the variable pitch system of the lathe--but was discarded when we were through. I was the mastering engineer who cut the masters.
—Phil Brown[citation needed]

Because no two-track stereo master tape was ever made as would commonly be done, the album cannot be remastered in a traditional manner. If any new release was to be attempted, a new mix would need to be made from the original multitrack tapes.

Nice new interview w/Poncho over at Rolling Stone. Includes this set of nuggets:

RS: Neil brought you guys back into the studio in 2000 to cut an album called Toast. What happened there? It never came out.

P: Everybody got sick. (Laughs) We were recording the album and really playing pretty good. Then we went on this tour of South America right in the middle of it. One of them was Rock in Rio. It was a huge amount of people, like 300,000 or something. The audience was going wild and it really inspired us. We did "Like a Hurricane" and they were humming the melody the whole time like a soccer chant. It just blew us away. I looked over and saw Neil and he was gone. He just threw his head up in the air and was just playing guitar. It was gigantic. All of us remember it.

Then we came home and went back into Toast. Everything we tried to play, we kind of played Latin style. [Laughs] We got confused down there. I don't mean we didn't know how to play our instruments or we didn't know what we were doing or Toast is shit, but all of a sudden we were going in different directions. We just weren't in the same place as when we left. We kept playing and recorded some things, but it just didn't work out.

RS: I spoke to Neil about five years ago and he was super excited about Toast. He said he had big plans for a release, but it obviously didn't happen.

P: I remember during the making of Sleeps With Angels I found myself in the studio without the rest of the band. All of a sudden, here comes [Warner Bros. Records chairman] Mo Ostin and his son Michael with some other cats. They had nobody to talk to besides me, and they basically cornered me and said, "When are the archives coming out?" He was talking about them coming out that Christmas [of 1994.] I said, "As far as I know, man, he's all over it. He says he's got it ready. It's really coming out." And here we are.

RS: He did finally release that first box set a few years ago, but imagine part two is still a ways away. I feel like he lost interest.

P: Do you think Volume Two will have Bluenotes material?

RS: I think that's Volume Three. I think Volume Two will be 1973 to 1979. It's a real big six years.

P: I remember once a long time ago, someone around the studio said there's 154 unreleased songs.

haha, i like that the dude in neil's band has as much of a clue about this stuff as anyone.

yeah wtf he's asking RS what's on Volume 2? lol

Being jerked around on what's happening and when is annoying enough as a fan; can't imagine how much more annoying it must be for a bandmate ("We're going on tour! Wait -- no we're not!")

Yeah, people are making a thing out of Sampedro's "gut" telling him this is the last Crazy Horse tour, but come on, he has no idea.

tbf, "gut" is Poncho's nickname for Neil.

lol

In the Rolling Stone article yesterday about the CSN&Y l974 live record that's coming out Nash said something about knowing Neil but not like having his cell phone number or anything.

Like yr in band with a dude, a band that shares everyone's name, you've played with this guy on his records & tours, but you don't know how to get a hold of him must be kind of weird.

I mean I get not wanting Stills or Crosby have yr number but Nash seems like an ok dude

Yeah, but he's probably too touchy-feely for Neil.

haha yeah. nash is so emo, though... i'm sure he could get in touch with neil pretty easily if he reallllly wanted to. but it would be weird to be so tied up with the guy and not have any say in the relationship.

I dunno, I've heard Crosby & Nash say stuff like this for a long time, I bet Neil probably is pretty hard for them the get a hold of...tbf he seems to have a really weird relationship with the whole CSN&Y thing

in shakey he tells stills via tour bus CB radio that he's not showing up to the next date they are driving to

It was the 70s equivalent of breakup by text message.

Pretty sure Archives II comes out next week.

archives II is going to be so good.

it came out last week, It was really good. Third one comes out soon. Fourth one will be all electronic. Fifth one he's recording right now. Sixth one is just one 10 hour song.

if archives ii is what archives ii is supposed to be it's going to be the greatest thing ever

I'm going to be sure to buy it in whatever proprietary format that he promises to update but doesn't that he offers it in. Maybe I'll buy two! Maybe I'll buy five and build a little doll hut.

I think Neil was able to build a new barn out at the ranch just using unsold Archives I blurays.

Did he ever keep up with the promised downloads on the first box? I seem to remember hearing about a few tracks coming out, then nothing.

yeah, nothing for about three years?

BD-Live Downloads

"I Wonder" - The Squires – previously unreleased basement rehearsal (Made available around May 1, 2009) (24-bit/192 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, vocal; Doug Campbell - Guitar; Ken Koblun - Bass; Randy Peterson - Drums
"Here We Are in the Years" - Neil Young – unreleased 2009 remix (Made available around July 26, 2009) (24-bit/192 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, piano, organ, harpsichord, vocal; Jim Messina - Bass; George Grantham - Drums; Also - strings
"Cinnamon Girl" - Neil Young & Crazy Horse - live at the Fillmore East, March 7, 1970 (track left off the Fillmore East NYAPS release) (Made available on or very shortly before Sep. 15, 2009) (24-bit/192 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, vocals; Danny Whitten - Guitar, vocals; Jack Nitzsche - Electric piano; Billy Talbot - Bass; Ralph Molina - Drums, vocals
"Mr. Soul" - Buffalo Springfield - live at the KHJ Appreciation Concert, Apr. 29, 1967 (Made available on Oct. 5, 2009) (24-bit/96 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, vocals; Stephen Stills - Guitar; Richie Furay - Guitar; Jim Fielder - Bass; Dewey Martin - Drums
"The Rent Is Always Due" - Neil Young - demo from the Buffalo Springfield box set (Made available on Nov. 2, 2009) (24-bit/192 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, vocals
"Shakey Pictures Fanfare" - Jack Nitzsche - opening fanfare for all Shakey Pictures productions, along with instructions for a ringtone download (Made available on Nov. 18, 2009) (24-bit/48 kHz audio)
Jack Nitzsche - Composer
"It's My Time" - The Mynah Birds - single A-side that went unreleased until 2006's The Complete Motown Singles, Vol. 6 box set (Made available on Feb. 26, 2010) (16-bit/96 kHz audio)
Rick Matthews - Vocals; Neil Young - Guitar, backing vocals; Bruce Palmer - Bass; Jim Yachemac - Guitar; Rick Mason - Drums; The Temptations - Backing vocals; The Four Tops - Backing vocals
"Go On and Cry" - The Mynah Birds - single B-side that went unreleased until 2006's The Complete Motown Singles, Vol. 6 box set (Made available on Feb. 26, 2010) (16-bit/96 kHz audio)
Rick Matthews - Vocals; Neil Young - Guitar, backing vocals; Bruce Palmer - Bass; Jim Yachemac - Guitar; Rick Mason - Drums; The Temptations - Backing vocals; The Four Tops - Backing vocals
"I Ain't Got the Blues" - Neil Young - unreleased demo (Made available on Mar. 26, 2010) (24-bit/192 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, vocals
"Mustang" - The Squires – same version as on Disc 0, was used so Neil could include text about the song[9] (Made available on Apr. 28, 2010) (24-bit/192 kHz audio)
Neil Young - Guitar, vocal; Doug Campbell - Guitar; Ken Koblun - Bass; Randy Peterson - Drums

has anyone ever complied those online?

i don't think i've seen them around, though you can get most of that stuff elsewhere?

at least neil is working hard on archives vol II now ... oh wait no he's not, he's driving cross country in his weirdo electric car
http://25.media.tumblr.com/e5dd172829958cac39bd7bd205437274/tumblr_mlf4g3wgj11qzxikdo1_500.jpg

in-dash PONO player in that thing i heard

The Archives are in the trunk.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luzpwvcHR41qlebd0o1_500.gif

i bet if you ran into neil in a parking lot with his car, and asked him about PONO he'd say oh yeah, let me play you something ... and he'd play a Mumford & Sons track.

and it would sound so amazing

in-dash PONO player in that thing i heard

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:23 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually, the bus is the PONO player. Hey, you wanted hi-res files. Shit takes up space.

That trunk gif is great, but how did they leave out Ray Liotta?

Good question!

aren't all of those tarantino movies?

Maybe that's it--didn't recognize the bottom three.

the bigger question is why did they include a shot that's not from a trunk

Just to see if you were paying attention, I think.

the version of "birds" on topanga 1 is killing me. the chorus is more devastating with just the solo vocal.

at least neil is working hard on archives vol II now ... oh wait no he's not, he's driving cross country in his weirdo electric car

"hey, let me show off how ecologically responsible I am by traveling cross country in this car that runs on renewable energy. what's that? oh, that's my diesel tour bus."

You'd have figured Willie Nelson had turned Neil onto bio-diesel by now.

or hemp oil.

It's my impression that Pono had sorta replaced the electric car as neils pet project

http://lincvolt.tumblr.com/

Of course, everyone has the right to an opinion, and my opinions, based on real science and scientific research, are always open to attack or misinterpretation. With this in mind, I visited a church in Iowa looking for a sign. I wanted a sign to tell me if I was doing the right thing by campaigning for cleaner fuels and more responsibility with regard to fossil fuel abuse and carbon waste. I drove my car to a little church on a hilltop in the middle of a cornfield. I parked right in front and walked up the steps and sidewalk to the white wooden church, with its impeccably manicured grounds, no litter, completely clean and well cared for. I opened the door, took off my hat and walked in. The church was empty and silent. I looked at the neat rows of pews, immaculate in their order and cleanliness, and imagined the congregation, small as it must be, gathering for worship on a Sunday. In my mind I asked for guidance, something I am not in the habit of doing.
After a few silent and peaceful moments, I turned towards the door, signed the guestbook, Neil Young, California. Then I made a contribution in a small wooden box. As I opened the door and exited the church I put my hat back on and walked along down the perfectly trimmed sidewalk back to the steps I had initially climbed. Looking down at my feet I saw something out of place. A small piece of corn stover, a cob with no kernels left, was there on the step. I felt a rush of something I had not experienced before as I stooped down to pick it up. It was light in my hand and looked exactly like the corn stover I had seen the day before in a laboratory at POET Ethanol where I had gone to learn how Cellulosic ethanol was made. I had learned how this stover was carefully collected, used and managed so enough was left in the field to replenish the soil. I am not a very religious man in the normal sense, but to me this was a sign I felt in my soul, a spiritual feeling that I was doing the right thing. I give thanks to the Great Spirit.” ~ My driver and bff Neil Young.

Moses had a burning bush. Neil had a used corn cob.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/9ce8b2334a3f0212f2969efe74e19459/tumblr_ml7a81Pmmu1qzxikdo1_1280.jpg

When did Neil turn into skinny Van Morrison?

He found a corn cob in Iowa?! Yeah, definitely a sign.

neil is a corny dude

It's uh. . .

http://pitchfork.com/news/52163-neil-youngs-digital-music-service-to-launch-in-2014/

https://www.facebook.com/NeilYoungPono/posts/626518460715191

To everyone who loves music –

I’m very happy to bring you some good news. All of us at Team PONO have been focused on getting everything right for our early 2014 launch of Pono.

Which is why the first two albums we are releasing on PONO are Homegrown and Oceanside-Countryside

The simplest way to describe what we’ve accomplished is that we’ve liberated the music of the artist from the digital file and restored it to its original artistic quality - as it was in the studio. So it has primal power.

Hearing PONO for the first time is like that first blast of daylight when you leave a movie theater on a sun-filled day. It takes you a second to adjust. Then you enter a bright reality, of wonderfully rendered detail.

This music moves you. So you can feel. That’s why so many musicians are behind PonoMusic – this is important work that honors their art. This is the way they wanted you to hear their music.

PONO starts at the source: artist-approved studio masters we’ve been given special access to. Then we work with our brilliant partners at Meridian to unlock the richness of the artist’s music to you. There is nothing like hearing this music - and we are working hard to make that experience available to all music lovers, soon.

Our mission is also to make PONO just as accessible as any music you buy and listen to today. So we’ll be launching both the PONO portable player – an updated version of the one I showed on David Letterman’s program – and an online library, with all your favorite music available in PonoMusic quality. Everything you need to feel music anew.

Stay tuned for more updates. And be sure to follow us on Facebook and Twitter for the latest information. We hope you’ll try PONO when it comes your way, and that it brings you the soul of music.

Yours, for PonoMusic –
Neil Young

Old man take a look my wallet

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdO9orWQ-Nk

goddamn it neil

wait ok waterface did you add the line about oceanside countryside and homegrown?

Our mission is also to make PONO just as accessible as any music you buy and listen to today.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume Mr. $90-triple-vinyl doesn't mean "accessible" in financial terms.

So are these just going to be 24/192 wav files with weird DRM?

Neil is acting like he's invented something that already exists

wait ok waterface did you add the line about oceanside countryside and homegrown?

― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, September 5, 2013 7:47 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*winks*

*bans*

Wow this is so weird being banned

goodbye, waterface

but srsly excited to hear this one in pono
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/23682421/Goodbye+Waterface+2550twi.jpg

love you guys, i'm listening to Homegrown as we speak up here in heaven it's fuckin sweet!

*spliff*

Hearing PONO for the first time is like that first blast of water in your face when you leave a movie theater on a sun-filled day.

^^Neil pays a guy to do that to him.

^^Sometimes he has him do it inside a 1952 Buick

Hearing PONO for the first time is like that first blast of water in your face when you leave a movie theater on a sun-filled day.

― tylerw, Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:29 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Why, when I read that, do I get the feeling Neil means "it actually super sucks at first and sounds really fucking weird but you get used it"

I can't stop pronouncing it ponyo in my head.

"hearing PONO makes you want to retreat into whatever dark place you just emerged from"

is PONO BLU RAY because BLU RAY

POCO ON PONO!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Poco_1970.jpg

YOKO PONO
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Yoko_Ono_Fly.jpg

LARRY, ADAM, EDGE AND PONO
http://www.concierto.cl/wp-content/blogs.dir/104/files/2013/01/u2-2.jpg

PLASTIC PONO BAND

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/17763319/John++Yoko+Plastic+Ono+Band+2plasticonoband.jpg

i can't see the word without getting MacArthur Park stuck in my head

"and I'll never play that MP3 again...PONO!!!!"

off-topic @tylerw: according to my virus program the aquarium drunkard (that's where you write occasionally, don't you?) contains malware, sophos blocks the site.

Neil Young's electric Lincoln broke down in the Sierra:

http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/newsletter/7928624-113/lincvolt-car-neil-officers

There's a metaphor in there somewhere.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlwdq7YycGlRlnh_axBMeQfLUEivY1-aE_tRzxKsEH_WMJiPOy

is this something I'm going to mispronounce for years like vimeo

How do you mispronounce vimeo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDQyUqsCLXA

I know right

vuh mayo

or vim ayo I guess

I pronounce it like "video," but with an m.

mideo

xxxxxxp to alex - hmm, i'll let the guy know. i know he was having trouble with it before, but thought he had it sorted.

the pun only occurred to me after somebody mocked me for mispronouncing it like, uh, last year

POno poNO vimeeo vimayo let's call the whole thing off

So are these just going to be 24/192 wav files with weird DRM?

Neil is acting like he's invented something that already exists

― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, September 5, 2013 3:11 PM (1 hour ago)

if he managed to marry spotify to hdtracks.com that would pretty f'kn sweet tho

wait isn't he acting like he invented something that doesn't exist

haha yeah that's what i meant

is pono streaming?

i don't know!

pono is a mystery.

PONO will be 24/192, but with a constant, high-pitched sine wave tone on top of everything.

"Yep, that's what I'm hearing!" sez Neil.

haha yeah i was just thinking at his age and at the level of hearing loss he likely has, how does neil even know the fucking difference?

He admitted in Shakey that his hearing was permanently damaged during the mixing of Weld. Seeing as how that was 22 years ago, I tend to doubt his hearing has improved any since then.

pono for ponyos

I keep singing "Pono Arigato, Mr. Roboto"

i wish neil was field testing a strain of weed called pono that improves digital sound quality, his lyrics are far too earthbound these days

hey you guys

you guys

PONO

pono pono pono PONO pono pono pono pono pono pono pono pono pono...

nobody does SOUND like we do
nobody does QUALITY like we do
nobody does KPS like we do

I dunno, I kinda feel like hearing loss doesn't completely obliterate an appreciation for quality recordings. those recent swans records sound incredible, and I suspect it's not just because gira surrounds himself w/ quality ppl, and I can't think of a better poster child for hearing loss.

teenagers can hear frequencies old bastards like us can't, but I'm sure I've got a better ear for recording quality than the avg teen. having a discerning ear is an instinct, a way of listening that goes beyond frequency cutoffs.

http://c0394391.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/1344631938.jpg

a pono subscription is actually a ticket onto neil's boat. everything sounds better on his boat.

I've got a PONER for PONO

pono is better than porno, sorry i can't help that lame pun.

sine wave she is a pono

PONO NEVER SLEEPS

ponotrix point never

PONO DREAMS

RIVER OF PONO

Phil Perspective - Back To Pono

"Shelter me from the Pono and the finger..."

Look out Mama there's a White Pono Comin Up The River

marlon brando ponohontas & me

pono my heart

Saddle Up The Ponomino

Love Is A Pono

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiZH9zMfMScejORgeb5J3aKhCkmoNMJjPNYfpW01vHmuUaCVtR

Yoko Pono.

http://medien.markt.de/bilder/2012/09/29/09/240166b6/medium_image/0/blue_oeyster_cult_godzilla.jpg?lastModified=1348903939000

"Poo-nooo, there goes Tokyo ...."

pono for pyros

cool cover, still not that excited about this.
http://cdn.pitchfork.com/news/52713/4976c8c0.jpg

cool cover, though it's pretty silly we're getting another acoustic gig from that era with a lot of songs that have been duplicated on other releases

i guess there is a cinnamon girl on piano, i would hear that, but i will listen to it once on youtube out of curiosity

even the archives stuff we've been given past this period is still neil in country/harvest mode, right?

yeah -- dreaming man and a treasure.

i guess it's arguable that crazy horse is well-represented by live albums (live rust, weld, year of the horse etc), but there really shouldn't be two 1970 solo discs before there's one live 76 set.

maybe Neil likes that he gets paid more for the solo albums than having to share dough with the Horse

i want to hear some live horse

this is one of my fave 76 bootlegs - http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2012/09/24/neil-young-crazy-horse-fukuoka-japan-march-8-1976/

Cellar Door was so small (I saw a show there 9 years after Neil Young was there). Would have been great to have seen there. But yeah, more Neil with Horse would be better

yeah i've seen pics of the cellar door interior - easy to imagine seeing a solo singer-songwriter there, but realllllly hard to imagine what it was like to see Miles Davis' group there in 1970.

Odds that this will be included in Archives II? Good.

Isn't it outside the timeline for Archives II?

Yeah, Miles in that room was probably like a 747 jet engine in a closet.

xp

yeah would be weird if it was in archives II -- should've been in archives 1, chronologically speaking. but neil does what neil wants, so who knows.

Yeah, I guess it's a different era.

Mostly just venting, because including those live albums in the last box was pretty lame, seeing as they were sold stand alone months in advance, no? I'm wary of buying any Neil stand alone stuff at this point. It'd be like paying for access to a Prince website. Caveat emptor.

they should all just be stand alone imo -- maybe two-disc archives releases a la dylan's bootleg series instead of these massive box sets.

yeah that would be great....

just like, here's two discs of the time fades away tour, here's two discs of tonight's the night sessions, here's two discs of tonight's the night live stuff, here's two discs of on the beach sessions... etc! not that complicated!

but BLU RAY

PONO!

google thinks that when i google blu ray pono I am searching for something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82gvrh6GXuE
trailer for the cellar door thing. complained upthread, but the snippets sound kind of cool -- that piano "cinnamon girl"! and piano "flying on the ground is wrong"!

ok, the solo piano "expecting to fly" makes this release worthwhile

haha damnit tyler i'm a little broke lately!!!! quit it!

pre order cd is only $11 on amazon

the vinyl is reallllly expensive imho

All his recent vinyl releases have been prohibitively expensive. He must really hate the format, and want people to avoid it.

POMO POMO POMO

Whatever, now I'm excited for this and I'll drop another $12 for another live set I might not need. On a tangent here, but I've been spending time with the Ducks Santa Cruz stuff, so much fun!

yeah, just wrote a little bit about my fave thing from those ducks shows here: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/11/12/neil-young-the-ducks-little-wing-santa-cruz-1977/
lotsa good times on those tapes.

cool maybe i'll get the CD...though i get pissed because i want vinyl and it's too damn much

also i'm still a little salty from having bought stuff like the live at fillmore and then ended up buying it again when it was included on the box set :/

yeah, i'm sure that'll happen again whenever 2 finally drops. but such is the nature of being a fan of this fuckin' guy.

piano "flying on the ground is wrong"!

love the carnegie hall version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96IJIegiR24&t=48m38s

isn't neil's vinyl so expensive because he gets it pressed at some super fancy hi-end factory in germany?

^ "flying on the ground" starts at 48:41, ilx apparently doesn't like youtube time embeds

I'm near Germany-ish (London)! It should be even cheaper!

after all my complaining i really like Cellar Door

#addict

but it's good...the piano focus kinda makes it feel different
and neil sounds even more bummed out than usual

yeah, pfork review was dead-on when it said "it holds the most value for the Neil obsessives interested in the small differences."

I haven't listend, but like a dutiful little Neil fanatic I picked it up last night. I'll surely be shaking my head when it pops up again as part of Archives Vol. 2 in 2021.

guess i'm assuming it won't be in the next volume of the archives since it is not part of the time period that volume will cover. but of course, neil doesn't always make the sensible moves with this sort of thing.

i really thought the pitchfork review was great

that whole thing about neils little remark about how he feels like he doesn't know people who don't get high like him and the audience kind of takes it as a hippie inside joke like LOL @ the squares but neils really saying he can't relate to other ppl anymore was a great observation

hated it. the first useless Archive release.

what a dour listen! not sure what I think yet

Cellar Dour

guess i'm assuming it won't be in the next volume of the archives since it is not part of the time period that volume will cover. but of course, neil doesn't always make the sensible moves with this sort of thing.

ha, yeah, i was half joking, but who knows anymore. i just hope volume 2 actually does come out, no matter whats in it. my real fear is that it'll be released in like pono only or something and you can only listen to it by buying a $1,300 pono player.

...which can only be installed and properly listened to in a fully-loaded LincVolt.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/154-neil-youngs-missing-archives/
good overview of some bootleggy things over on pfork today (and a plug for Doom & Gloom!). wow.

gonna say, i learned about 100% of those boots from your blog

the availability of the boots, at least - some of the shows are mentioned in Shakey

pretty funny, my older brother and i were just noting that it's been 20 years since our first neil young bootleg -- that bottom line 1974 show blew my 14-year-old mind.

Nice!

Bottom Line was the first bootleg I had too, and I got it just about 20 years ago as well. Must have spread fast (and yeah, it totally blew my mind at the time).

curious as to what neil was doing in NYC at that point (yes I'm a nerd about Neil Young). i think there was something in Shakey about him doing a session with Robbie Robertson around this time? maybe I'm making that up.

for some reason i can't even imagine Neil Young being in New York but i'm sure he's been there a zillion times

he was there after the gold rush

http://www.popspotsnyc.com/afterthegoldrush/

Great research. Would be interested to know a little bit about the "small, old woman" I've looked at a thousand times.

knowing neil, archives vol. 2 could very well be a 23-blu-ray version of "arc"

or a .mp4 file of "journey through the past" with croatian subtitles

Interview in the new Uncut: "Every record I've ever made" will be available on Pono in the fall (including Time Fades Away). Also, "Archives 2 still has a year to go before it's released, and it'll be released in a digital format and it will have a lot of the same content that the Blu-ray (of the first Archives) had."

BUT in the new Mojo Neil says, "[Archives 2] will be completed in late June. It'll be in Pono; that's the way it will be delivered." No other format? "There may be a few people who want the Blu-ray. We'll have to talk to the record company about that but it won't be released until next year."

So, in summation, Archives 2 will never be released in any format ever.

knowing neil, archives vol. 2 could very well be a 23-blu-ray version of "arc"

ARChives volume 23

if we get a pono-only archives 2 I might riot

Considering the main selling point of the first Archives box was the visuals on the blu-ray, the Pono-only thing makes no sense.

seriously

it will have a lot of the same content that the Blu-ray (of the first Archives) had."

WTF

goddamn it this was my greatest fear about pono

eh i don't buy it. his record company will want it in various formats.

WTF

Yeah, that's not exactly clear; I'm hoping he meant that any blu-ray release will have the same type of content.

his record company will want it in various formats.

I work for a division of Warner Music. Twice a year, we have a charity record sale; each WMG label donates stuff they've got too much of and it gets sold at ultra-cheap prices ($1 for a single CD, $4 and up for box sets. Last year, I got the Stooges Fun House 7CD box for $10.). Anyway, I've been going for a couple of years now, and every time I go there are giant piles of Archives Vol. 1 that no one touches. WMG took a fucking bath on that thing. I'm not at all convinced they'll want to produce an equally elaborate second installment.

Last year, I got the Stooges Fun House 7CD box for $10.

Damn

haha, can you let me know when the next one is, i would like the fun house box for $10.
won't they take more of a bath on it if they only do it on pono? i mean, they certainly won't sell many.

The first Archives was released in three physical formats (BD, DVD, CD) -- I imagine the overhead on Archives 2 would be significantly lower with no physical manufacturing/distribution.

i have another great idea neil you could also sell a lot more vinyl if you didn't charge twice the going rate for your records

i'm kinda PONOpressed right now :(

that 24-bit depression

lol.
i dunno, if they took such a bath on the first archives, why are they doing such a lavish "deluxe" version of "Letter Home" (with a CD version even!). [not that i doubt they lost money on the archives, but that might be more to do w/ neil's contract than anything else?]

that delux Letter Home version is bonkers

that luxe Letter Home is looking for punters who are all "hello i love neil young and hate money"

Warners might've just fucked up in estimating how many Archives boxes they thought they could sell, and pressed an amount way out of proportion to its target audience. Presumably, they're pressing saner quantities of A Letter Home (and/or Third Man is footing part of the bill).

being a neil young fan is so stressful. let's just chill and listen to this shitty audience tape from 1976 (electric "helpless"!) http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1814

IIRC, the deluxe Archives boxes where remaindered/put oop pretty quickly. When I saw him live live in 2010, they had discounted copies of the blu box on sale at the merch table, and I also seem to recall Collector's Choice slashing prices for both higher end versions in their contemporary catalogs.

Warners might've just fucked up in estimating how many Archives boxes they thought they could sell, and pressed an amount way out of proportion to its target audience. Presumably, they're pressing saner quantities of A Letter Home (and/or Third Man is footing part of the bill).

^^I imagine even the regular Archives box was a hot seller upon the initial weeks of release, and then dropped down to nothing aside from xmas sales and then later closeouts like Borders closing (I still remember the piles of the Springteen Darkness blu boxes behind the counter in practically every location I visited).

"Every record I've ever made" will be available on Pono in the fall"

including Homegrown?!

yeah i was wondering that? or chrome dreams 1? oceanside/countryside?

ha, i assume he means "every record I've released" but who knows

"Every record I remember releasing...for $49.99. Apiece."

It's kind of amazing that for something that was in gestation for so long, the archives projects have been released in such largely inept fashion.

The first time I heard about it was a 1990 interview in the Chicago Tribune; then, it was going to be a 10-CD set, which sounded absolutely massive at the time.

David Briggs mentioned in Shakey that Neil had a crew doing archives work at the ranch during the Ragged Glory sessions.

did not know this was on Spotify, lol

currently jamming the shit out of Fillmore 1970

stop bumping this if it's not about Archives 2 the wrath of shakey

I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.

if something god forbid happened to neil, i wonder if there would then be a bootleg series type thing or if his will states that everything must be cremated with him

with the divorce who knows what's going to happen to his estate. obviously his kids can't take care of it.

Elliott Roberts

with the divorce who knows what's going to happen to his estate. obviously his kids can't take care of it.

There's still Amber! She apparently just married an investment banker or something.

truly hope his pov is "i'll be reissued to others satisfaction when i'm dead" rather than "bury me with the compumixes"

ah right I forgot about Amber

Pegi will get all the Archives.

I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.

― Duke, Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the performance series is pretty similar, no?

i mean, dylan is releasing the complete basement tapes and neil has 3 unreleased proper studio albums that are supposedly bona fide classics that haven't been released

it does seem increasingly weird that dudes like dylan and young with these deep archives of live performances aren't looking at what the grateful dead does and just copying that. neil performance series is great, but it's not quite dick's picks. if he just told jonathan bernstein to do the same thing as dick's picks, there would be tons of great (and complete) shows available.

iirc, the members of the Dead don't want to listen to any of the Dick's Picks series. Which is great for fans, obviously -- no meddling -- but I can see how artists a little more hands-on like Young and Dylan would be wary about something like that.

(and don't get me started on the Who's lack of a live series...)

yeah, as with almost everything else, the dead are a unique case. [don't know if i'd call dylan hands on though -- if he's listened at all to any of those bootleg series' i would be kind of surprised]

the best dylan quote ever i read in this article where a journalist was talking about doing an article where he got to hang out w/dylan during the Infidels sessions. he'd obviously heard all the songs and assumed the "Blind Willie McTell" would be the centerpiece of the album. He comes back to hear the final mixes and is horrified that Dylan has left the song off the album and starts to protest, Dylan says "Hey man, don't worry about it, it's just an album, I've made 20 of them"

i think clinton heylin had some conspiracy theory that dylan held back "blind willie mctell" because he knew that not releasing it would immediately catapult it into "classic" status. and it did! (not that it isn't a genuinely great song)

it does seem increasingly weird that dudes like dylan and young with these deep archives of live performances aren't looking at what the grateful dead does and just copying that. neil performance series is great, but it's not quite dick's picks. if he just told jonathan bernstein to do the same thing as dick's picks, there would be tons of great (and complete) shows available.

sactly

"Hey man, don't worry about it, it's just an album, I've made 20 of them"

ha, wonder where different singer/songwriters reached that degree of cynicism re: individual artifacts. Probably around the time they realized the wiggle room on their concert setlist was decreasing.

"ok i gotta play these 8 songs till the end of time, so reasonably this album is only going to provide one to four songs on future setlists, so fuck the b side"

"we're going for a sort of 'mediocre' vibe on this particular record, that song wouldn't fit"

Heylin's Behind the Shades basically repeats the same narrative for each and every Dylan album: that it coulda been something much greater had it been recorded/mixed/sequenced/whatever differently. You come away with the feeling that Dylan's career was just one huge missed opportunity

I love Neil, but Archives remains a shit deal. I can't justify it. Such a pity that he isn't as laissez-faire as Dylan, and can't allow something à la Bootleg Series.

― Duke, Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the performance series is pretty similar, no?

― mizzell, Friday, September 5, 2014 5:48 PM (3 hours ago)

Fair point. But there could be so much more.

You doubters will be shocked and saddened when Neil suddenly makes dozens of shows available for download exclusively to those who bought the Blu-ray edition.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/neil-young-guitarist-poncho-sampedro-wants-one-last-crazy-horse-tour-20140905

He's always thinking about what he's doing today and tomorrow, and right now he has acoustic shows, Pono and he's working on a fiction novel."

Not mentioned: Archives 2.

Ha those poncho interviews are so funny. For a guy who has been pretty close to shakey for 40 years he still has zero idea what is going to happen next.

Yeah, and apparently they don't exactly hang out while on tour if Frank had to send Neil an email about set list suggestions.

After he wraps his current tour in October, Young will continue work on Archives II, the follow-up to 2009's Archives, which collected unreleased material up to 1972. Young says the project will include Dume, an album of songs from the Zuma era, and Hitchhiker, an acoustic LP from the mid-Seventies. The major holdup has been developing technology for presenting the ambitious project: "We're gonna have a website that's, like, 60 years of music in chronological order, with links so you can look at my archives and play the music off the high-res source at the same time." So what's it like to reflect on all he's accomplished over the years? "I don't," he says. "I need to take a break and go to the bathroom."

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so much about that is amazing

can a website be pono

poll

I wonder if they could do a *Pono Certified* program for websites like those Energy Star ratings they have on washing machine and shit

also no mention of the albums Homegrown, Oceanside/Countryside, or the original Chrome Dreams??

would "Dume" or "Hitchhiker" be another name for one of those?

Chrome Dreams definitely existed, I have a bootleg of it, and it think it might have even gone to test pressing before being pulled

yeah i think this is just in addition to those other ones -- Dume and I'm assuming Hitchiker are collections that have been recently put together, as opposed to albums that were sequenced and prepped back in the 70s.

but it's just crazy, does neil young even look at the internet? why does he care about a website. put out DUME on vinyl, that's all you need to do. it'll look and sound great!

tbh I really love the version of "Hitchhiker" one Le Noise, I love the songs on that where the song quality actually rises to the level of the production and that vers. is p psychedelic

yeah that one is great ...
probably mentioned above, but neil's people talked about these coming out separately
Four unreleased albums from this period are being rebuilt and will be available in the NYA Special Release Series. Chrome Dreams, Homegrown and Oceanside-Countryside are the three unreleased studio albums. Also from this period is the unreleased Odeon-Budokan live recording produced by David Briggs and Tim Mulligan. These albums initially will be released in vinyl from analog masters as they originally were created for that format.

sweet i hope they stick to that plan

or better yet can Bob Dylan's management and production team stage a hostile takeover of Neil's archives and handle it from here on out?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just then, his Samsung phone rings; the ringtone is his own voice shouting "Hello?!"

<3 <3 <3

Oh, man, what a bummer. If Neil is designing a website to play music, that means the internet is truly on the cusp of irrelevance. RIP internet.

http://www.neilyoungarchives.com/notescroll.html

holy shit

tyler do you know anything about this based on your recent writing/research etc?

cuz that sounds fucking amazing if true

though does this mean they aren't going to do physical stuff anymore??

Hm, he says you can "see" unreleased albums, but doesn't explicitly say you can stream them. It would be incredible, though, if he just dumped everything onto the site. And "associated...films and videos" would theoretically mean the '76 Crazy Horse tour...!

haha, yeah, pretty vague at the moment -- will there be things on here from 64-72 that weren't on the archives box set? i don't really know anything else.

can we change this thread title to "IT'S REALLY NEVER HAPPENING"

The Archives will be the town of Greendale recreated as a Myst-style video game where you must explore Greendale, talking to locals and finding clues to unlock Neil's music

please don't show neil Myst

I hope when this goes live there's a drawer that's just "Doghouse"

Welcome to NYA, the doghouse of my music

Is this before or after they fix the pono web site?

neil only knows.
in the meantime, this is back on the schedule -- https://www.amazon.com/Hitchhiker-Neil-Young/dp/B072JVDRWC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1501870010&sr=1-1&keywords=neil+young+hitchhiker

glad the vinyl doesn't seem to be absurdly overpriced ...

yeah if they went back and put some sane prices on shit i'd buy a shitload of neil vinyl

I think it's been locked out of the market by the domestic reissue, but there used to be a nice official German press of Zuma that retailed for about $15.

neil has confused amazon, though. the status of my hitchhiker pre-order, which had today as release date:
Arriving today by 8 PM
Not yet shipped

special sedan delivery

Considering it's all acoustic I really like the energy of this OG "Hitchhiker" (the song), at least in its first two and half minutes or so.

yeah, so good. i do wonder if there's a crazy horse version from that era in the vaults. i can imagine it, anyway.

Neil has a very heavy downstroke/palm mute on/off thign on acoustic, he can get a real heavy feel to an acoustic song that no one else quite does

what's the difference between the cd archive 1-4 box set on amazon for £66 quid and the one i picked up in hmv this lunchtime for £13? (2009 remaster, hdcd it says)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-Release-Discs-Neil-Young/dp/B0087E60WS/ref=sr_1_6

vs

http://store.hmv.com/music/cd/official-release-series-discs-1-4

I wouldn't think anything, I got a set of those for about $20 USD in eBay

Volumes 2 and 3 of that series are currently scheduled to come out in two weeks. We'll see.

Yeah, but they are also listed at £60+ making them over 15 quid each. Forget that.

That's insane. They're listed at $45 each on Amazon US, and I'm sure they'll be cheaper on eBay.

Vol. 2 (On The Beach, Times Fades Away, Tonight’s The Night, and Zuma) is $44.79 from Amazon US.
Vol. 3 (Long May You Run, American Stars 'N Bars, Comes A Time, Rust Never Sleeps, and Live Rust) is $48.24 from Amazon US.

IT'S ALIVE

http://www.neilyoungarchives.com

confusing as hell and a lot of missing stuff! it's got some weird gauge that tells you how good your audio quality is? NYA Xtsream audio? pono? lincvolt mp3?

who knows

big news:
While they are not yet populated there are placeholders on the timeline for Homegrown, Oceanside/Countryside, Chrome Dreams & Odean Budokan!

!!!

*choke*

also something call Live Freedom? (unreleased?) from 89? tyler?

goddamn it, they have the Eldorado EP but only On Broadway and El Dorado, no Cocaine Eyes!!

Unreleased album from 86 (after Landing on Water on timeline):

Crazy Horse Garage (placeholder)

films are on the timeline too but just placeholder...."Solo Trans" dir Hal Ashby?

yeah that was briefly on youtube ... pretty wild shocking pinks encore.

Unreleased album "Solo Trans"!!!!!!! (all these are placeholder but still)....

btw Neil Young in Berlin is on the timeline too so Solo Trans is not the concert on YouTube

Unreleased album 78 - The Boarding House

so much stuff is happening today i feel a bit faint tbh

fingers crossed for doghouse obv

lol the info about the unreleased stuff is ... not helpful. but Roxy Live from 1973 is new to me ... that would be awesome.

Unreleased album 69 - Crazy Horse Early Daze

Crazy Horse Garage (placeholder)

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I wonder if this is a live recording from the "Rusted Out Garage" tour?

browsing through this archive is a total fucking nightmare

classic neil

i love neil but this is what you get when someone who doesn't know anything about UI designs the UI

it's like i realize it's an archive and in some ways a filing cabinet is a metaphor but you didn't have to make us all literally "thumb through" the digital file cabinet neil!!!! fuck

the website is shaped like a Toblerone

the mynah birds motown single is up but not playable

‘fuckit, they’ve waited 40 years for this stuff, let’s make ‘em jump through some final hoops before getting to that dictaphone recording of ‘t-bone’ from 1981’

this is so weird.
if you see a song, click on the little "file" icon on the track list, it brings up all sorts of stuff like photos and even sheet music and stuff, handwritten lyrics

doesn't seeeem like there's anything to listen to that isn't just previously released stuff

he talks about that early daze thing in one of the memoirs — from what I understand it's early horse material from before neil hooked up with them.

what's "The Complex Sessions" (w/Crazy Horse directed by Jonathan Demme 95?)

also there's weird unreleased tracks in the file cabinet thing that aren't attached to any album if you spot em, like I found a file for an Americana-era Crazy Horse cover of this Pistol Annies/Miranda Lambert song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spjaA8rZEXM

there's content-free "files" for Soundtrack 1, Soundtrack 2, Soundtrack 3, and Soundtrack 4 that look to be placed between Peace Trail and The Visitor

this is too much

this interface is ridiculous

complex sessions is a sleeps with angel-era live in the studio vhs (can't remember if it ever came out on dvd)

yeah I have no idea what any of you guys are talking about because navigating this thing is totally impenetrable

oh well

to think I once saw the archives with my own eyes

i was going to say "hey if anyone manages to find something cool send a link" but i'm not sure links would work?

like, this is a link to Le Noise: does it work for anyone else: http://www.neilyoungarchives.com/#/album?id=A_072&_k=x71iqr

nope

lol at this thing. there are pop-ups on top of pop-ups

that Le Noise link worked for me!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP-YVukUEAAsOce.jpg:large

on the individual songs there are also "official videos" for songs i didn't know had official videos

what a lunatic

I have to say this is DEFINITELY better than Dylan's "let's release a steady stream of affordable 2CD sets with great liner notes" approach that everyone was so sick of

sort of wish neil had never heard of the internet

ok, maybe i should actually read through the tutorial for this, but...what is the structure of this thing? it's chronological, only some of the songs from albums are visible unless you click the folder tabs? and why do some songs have multiple tabs on the same row (left and right side)? i get that the middle tab is for albums and other official releases, but...wtf is going on here

forget it karl it's shakeytown

that link started working for me, but then took like 10 minutes and still didn't finish loading.

btw Neil Young in Berlin is on the timeline too so Solo Trans is not the concert on YouTube

Different shows. Berlin is the last TransBand show, filmed by Michael Lindsey-Hogg in late '82 and originally shown on HBO. Solo Trans is an American concert from the next year's Trans TV tour, with was Neil by himself and with the Shocking Pinks on the encore.

Solo Trans is up in bits and pieces on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_wL1YMhLao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAyG_u8mWxA

yeah Berlin (which is readily available) is 82. solo trans is 83 w/ shocking pinks, and only popped up in full on youtube briefly a couple years ago. might've been released on VHS though?

also is there going to be (god help us)...an app?

that '83 tour is a great Neil time-capsule. At the time fans/critics seemed generally confused at what he was going for but in the context of the height of Reagan-era in the US Neil's p much right in stride with what was going on culturally - synthesizers, 50s nostalgia, a general hokiness and cardboard-thin optimism

browsing through this archive is a total fucking nightmare

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classic neil

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lol otm this is impossible to navigate ffs!

so it's basically the blu-ray version of the archives with the next 40something years tacked on (in varying stages of completion).

I should've just rented a U-haul, stolen all those reels, and digitized them myself

"Old man, look at my life. It's in a subfolder B after you right-click on that little LincVolt logo dealie...no, the other one."