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this record is perfect and i hate to have to choose but it has to be "skin divers". that giant stomping beat (reminds me of "pennyroyal tea" by nirvana strangely) is really cool, and i noticed on listening to the album that the vocals seem to move gradually closer forward in the mix culminating w/this song and perhaps kirsty yate's darkest lyric. fucking mindblowingly awesome. closely followed by "relentless", all crystal arpeggiators and mournful house piano - carl craig should do a remix!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
4 Distractions (5:47) 2
9 Skykicking (7:23)1
1 Walking In Straight Lines (5:07) 0
2 Bent Double (3:39) 0
3 Darling Effect (5:01) 0
5 Relentless (5:18) 0
6 Skin Divers (3:30) 0
7 Carly Simon (3:19) 0
8 Yes (4:56) 0


r1o natsume, Thursday, 16 August 2007 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

actually i guess "skykicking" is probably the best song

r1o natsume, Thursday, 16 August 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not going to vote yet until I've thought about it more, but (despite what would seem like the obvious choice for me) i'm tempted to choose "Darling Effect" - the guitar, the lyrics, the phrasing, all amazing.

Didn't the guy write the lyrics though?

Hence in "Darling Effect" - "I almost come the moment I'm inside you"

Although it would be even better if it was the singer writing these lyrics.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2007 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"skykicking" for that little 3 note piano riff thats going round & round in my head RIGHT NOW
argh!

zappi, Friday, 17 August 2007 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

All good. (I am biased.) It is, indeed, a perfect record.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 August 2007 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link

rl0 natsume, i love you, for starting this thread. but, i can't vote. really, i don't have a favorite on this one. it's just one of those albums that i like to light and let burn.

what a great and forgotten dreamy, ambient pop record.

having said all that, earwig's 'under my skin i am laughing' is even better! these people were angels. whatever happened to 'em?

andi, Friday, 17 August 2007 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link

they discovered the bossa nova, if the wonderful Sweet Tip is any indication.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 17 August 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Sweet Tip was a nice record, but those horrible sleeve pics!

still think 'Clear Skin' was their watermark...

vote "Distractions"!

(though the "Off The Wall" bass line in "Walking In Straight Lines" almost puts that one in the catbird seat)

henry s, Friday, 17 August 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

love this album. im voting 'distractions'.

Michael B, Friday, 17 August 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

it's funny, i think "carly simon" and "yes" are probably my least favourite songs on the album, yet they are still better than like 97% of my record collection

r1o natsume, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I forgot to vote!

Tim F, Friday, 24 August 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

WELL JEEZ

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

haha. so sad. i didn't vote, either. and really, i absolutely love the music these people make. all of it. i just couldn't really see any point in choosing a favorite here, though. the whole damn thing is pretty great.

andi, Friday, 24 August 2007 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link

3 of us voted?!...well, fuck me running!...how is it that this fine LP could be so washed away by the sands of time?

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i also totally forgot to vote. shame.

r1o natsume, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i would've definitely gone for "relentless" in the end. at risk of sounding incredibly corny, this record is totally balearic right? slow house beats, shimmering vini reilly guitar, hushed vocals, i suppose the lyrics don't really fit with balearica but. maybe it's balearic if the cafe del mar was in antartica

r1o natsume, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Was this one of the three LPs that launched Guernica or was it the 2nd wave? This, Spoonfed Hybrid and That Dog all within a week or two of each other in late '93 - I bought the lot on vinyl at (the late, lamented) Rham Records in Wallasey before leaving home for the last time to start my new job. I had to tape them on the Crown music-centre the night I packed as I didn't have a record player in my new flat until the following summer...

I think Koogy went to the label launch - he got me a free CD promo which is probably worth...oh, a fiver? on eBay now...

Julian Tardo of Insides was running his own studio in Brighton until quite recently, I think - friends of mine have recorded with him. One late, lamented friend in particular...

Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

was there ever a second Guernica wave?...I thought that the three you mention (plus the Unrest record) were the only ones on that (great, lost) imprint...

I've said it before and I'll say it again...'Euphoria' needs to be remastered...

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Bettie Serveert's Palomine was part of the first wave (GU003). Guernica also reissued the Underground Lovers' Leaves Me Blind and ended on the high-note of Insides' Clear Skin mini-LP.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I got that Underground Lovers' rerelease completely out of nowhere at UCI's newspaper back in 1992 or 1993 or whenever it was. Very glad for that still.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

forgot about Underground Lovers...

wasn't Clear Skin a 4AD release?

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

TU7 cat no. = "Temporary" Guernica release. the last, to date.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

guess LMB wasn't a re-release. first issue was in the UK, on Guernica. released in Australia on Polydor later that year ('94). i must have been thinking about the US version of Dream it Down, which IIRC swapped out four new tracks for LMB tracks.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I managed to finally hear this record. I remember when it came out because I had a friend who was really into 4AD and basically bought everything they released during this period, but he never managed to acquire this one. A lot of stuff on the label at the time managed to sound gothy even when it wasn't trying to (cf., the first couple of HNIA records).

It's a good record and the production on it sounds exactly like an AR Kane record. I especially like how they recorded the drum machines and the sampled loop of wobbly cymbals on the final track is esp. nice. My only complaint is that the vocals do kind of get in the way a little bit. I prefer them on the tracks where they are more buried in the mix even though the bjork-ish phrasing is a little irritating also. I think I will mostly get beyond these criticisms on a few repeat listenings though. This one is a grower, as they say.

Guernica put out a special edition of Unrest's Imperial FFRR in the UK and Europe if I recall.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, now I remember - the first Guernica wave was late '92 - Unrest (who subsequently released stuff on 4AD proper), Underground Lovers, Bettie Serveert (two of those were reissues or licensing things from other labels - maybe all of 'em); then Spoonfed/Insides/That Dog in '93, then the Insides one-off in mid-'94. I bought 'em on vinyl because you got a free 7" with the LPs (obv "Clear Skin" was CD only).

Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

This record is excruciatingly beautiful. Like huddling under heavy blankets, sweating, turned on, listening to someone tell you their darkest thoughts. It makes me sad that so few answered this poll or responded to this thread, but it makes sense. It's just such a private record, almost embarassingly so, and in fact I just realized I don't think I've ever shared my love of this record with anyone else. Even listening to it makes me feel almost uncomfortably vulnerable. I love it.

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Clarke B?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It's me! Hey Ned... "Long time" would be an understatement.

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes indeed, you drunken sommelier. :-D How's that all going?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I'm still up in Brooklyn, working for the French portfolio of a small-ish wine importer, and really enjoying my work. For a while I was so immersed in wine, and trying to catch myself up in terms of knowledge and experience, that I feel like my other interests dropped off a bit... But I suppose balance beckons to be restored, and so I find myself on my couch on a humid Sunday night, reading ILM and thinking about this beautiful, beautiful album. :-)

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

And a fine choice of album indeed. I haven't listened to it in a bit and will do so now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

What did you think, Ned? ("Darling Effect" would have to be my favorite.)

Clarke, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

"Distractions" sounds like "Love To Stay" by Altered Images

Nubly, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Digging around I found the few non-album songs by Earwig, Insides' immediate predecessor, that I didn't have on their own one album, Under My Skin I Am Laughing. (Most of the B-sides/singles got collected on a compilation, Past, but I've still never been able to find a copy of that.) Mixed batch but I like them, you can hear them being a louder 'rock' band as such early on.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a copy of Past, the only copy I've ever seen, and I accidentally sold it back to Amoeba last year in a box along with a ton of other things. I went back to find it later that week and it was nowhere to be found. That said, despite the scarcity of it, I didn't find it that great; Under my Skin was much much better.

akm, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed, the singles are more woodshedding than anything else. But you can hear them start to settle on a sound as they go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

looking at this:

http://eil.com/Shop/ExtSearch.asp?DiscArtist=Earwig

all three of those ep covers look very familiar but i could've sworn i was missing one. or maybe i'm missing a 4th ep. ah, yes, the Every Day Shines 12".

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it that i found cheap in notting hill but my copy of which i think jumps. (Eyesore DB says GUP4)

as mike said i went to the label launch (Borderline (Break For The Border?), London, same place i saw UVS and that first B&S gig) where insides played two sets, the first of which became Clear Skin. mesmerising to the point where you had to remember to breathe. years later i heard steve reich and the spell was somewhat broken but hey...

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it

! Now that I'd love to hear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually somehow I had missed that the original release of Euphoria had a separate 7" single as well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

> Now that I'd love to hear.

if only someone had, say, posted it on an mp3 blog (and on my birthday too)

http://theblackenedair.blogspot.com/2009/10/insides-clear-skin-promo.html

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Astounding.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

And thanks!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow thanks Koogs!

I still have never heard the Earwig album or Clear Skin itself, appallingly.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Good lord, man.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha I know - it actually feels vaguely shameful considering how important Euphoria has been to me for so long.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Me on Under My Skin from ten years back:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/1999/02/earwig/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Ned I've been imagining the record ever since I read your review ten years ago! That was the first I'd heard of it - I think i actually picked up Euphoria that year due to all the cross-references with Disco Inferno, Bark Psychosis etc.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

cross-references on a.m.a. I mean.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Something really needs to be done about this! And that sounds like something that would be cross-referenced on a.m.a. that way...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

tim i have clear skin, if i can track down the cd in my many boxes i will set it aside for you

an error has occurred (electricsound), Monday, 7 December 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks Jim! No pressure though, I know what scouring through boxes of CDs is like...

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_QYRtOGRVU

so sick

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate lovers
i hate the way they go to the bathroom
in shifts
after
they fuck

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Possibly my favorite song by them, definitely my favorite lyric.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 January 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Good find!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

thanks!

pretty good track. very 90s idm. which, um, makes sense.

original bgm, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

only 3 votes in the original poll makes me sad, but I guess this album is kind of the definition of a hidden gem--as much as I love it, I wouldn't play it for just anyone.

rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

i played "Relentless" once extremely late at a house party a while ago, like Sunday afternoon late, about 6 or 7 people in the room just dancing and chatting and drinking, it went down well I think though admittedly I just wanted to hear it myself

this album means so much to me but I still haven't heard Clear Skin

Snámh dá Én (missingNO), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

I just got into this in the last two years. Prefer Clear Skin to Euphoria. Got the canadian? cd ep off Amazon or Discogs recently for a buck or two. Reminds me of Reich in places.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

It seems I have the mp3s for the Clear Skin promo too. They also had a track on one of the Volume comps.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

Never understood the hoopla for this album - always seemed like a more boring Laika

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Hurrah Neil Kulkarni once more:

http://thequietus.com/articles/07267-the-euphoria-of-insides

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Some full-throated poptimism there at the start too!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Not much of a Mogwai fan I take it?

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Those American bands I did care about that got called ‘post-rock’ always had too much of an obsession with melody and rhythm going on to ever be called anything other than pop (Bowery Electric, Jessamine, Labradford, Windy & Carl)

Uh...

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

I should tell Windy and Carl about that, actually...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Coincidentally, I was humming a Labradford song only yesterday.

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think it was the one that started on middle C. And stayed there for the next five minutes.

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Missed the Kulkarni feature at the time but just caught up, I hadn't realised They had another band before Insides. The music seems to be legally available here:

http://earwiguk.bandcamp.com/

I Need Feel is an amazing track.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, that's great! Must get the missing numbers...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to make a donation, as everything I've ever bought by these guys has been second-hand, but I guess legally these things can be difficult.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

That "Past" album was the first thing I got by these guys. (Yeah, it was second-hand too.) It was great to follow their progress from that to "Under My Skin..." to "Euphoria" to "Clear Skin." There were a few other artists back then, like Robert Hampson, whose music just seemed to gradually dissolve into the ether with each release. I always wondered where they would wind up.

henry s, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to make a donation, as everything I've ever bought by these guys has been second-hand, but I guess legally these things can be difficult.

The rights must've reverted to them if they're allowing free downloads on bandcamp. In which case, it's unfortunate that they didn't use the "name your price" feature to allow for donations. In any case, the flac files are much appreciated. Those are rare discs these days.

doug watson, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

tim i have clear skin, if i can track down the cd in my many boxes i will set it aside for you

― an error has occurred (electricsound), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:47 AM (2 years ago)

i found this if you would still like it tim!!

‘Banksy bacon burgers’ and ‘Shepard Fairey Bread’ (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

This record is excruciatingly beautiful. Like huddling under heavy blankets, sweating, turned on, listening to someone tell you their darkest thoughts. It makes me sad that so few answered this poll or responded to this thread, but it makes sense. It's just such a private record, almost embarassingly so

This, from way up thread, is so accurate for this music. I've just had someone turn me onto this band and I'm like... how, with all my love of ARKane, DI, Butterfly Child etc etc did I miss these guys?

This is excellent, and painful, and honest.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Sunday, 5 August 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

Glad you've discovered them Trayce.

Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah someone I know from lastfm chats recommended them to me recently. The clash of sweet music v the painfully honest, ugly lyrics is just awesome, much like DI I suppose!

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Sunday, 5 August 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

Why did I never contribute to this thread? I bought "Euphoria" in late 93 on the basis of the glowing MM review, and I loved it then, as I love it now. (There was a classic letters page around this time when someone had complained about MM having pictures of "girls with their insides hanging out" so they printed a pic of Kirsty Yates with the caption "The girl from Insides, hanging out"). The album I think is unique and I haven't heard anything like it. I worked backwards to Earwig and loved that too, in a slightly underdeveloped way. The lyrics are like a slightly psychotic diary of desire. And "Clearskin" just... is like "In C". The "Tikky" track on Volume was good too, but I never saw the third album ever... But "Euphoria"'s fans are like a tiny cult, small but perfectly formed, a secret code of bonding over such a perfect record. Pointless ramble over.

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 5 August 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

i lost my virginity to this album last night.

it was... anything but euphoric.

boy_slayer, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

I hate to ask about your bathroom visits in shifts.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp

flopson, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

at least it was stylish. it was like we were in a movie or something. all that made it so dissatisfying was that neither of us knew what the hell we were doing - we even left the lights on.

anyway, i have loved insides for about seven years now. i probably have nothing original to say about them. i guess i kind of hated 'sweet tip' when i first heard it, but came to realize later that it is indeed okay when bands change. i came to love 'sweet tip' with time.

what a fantastic band though (and earwig too). it pleases me that the insides cult has, in recent years, grown by the... tens?

these are my first posts to ilx. forgive me for my self-centered-ness. i just wanted to introduce myself and talk about insides.
it is unseasonably warm in ann arbor, but i could not feel colder inside.

boy_slayer, Friday, 16 November 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

ned, you don't need to hide behind pseudonyms like this.

THAT IS ONE BIG PIZZA (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 16 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

;-)

j., Friday, 16 November 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

I hate to ask about your bathroom visits in shifts.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 16, 2012 4:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Under my skin I am LOL.

Andy K, Friday, 16 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

Oh geez, I had to apologize like Hell!

(That's an Earwig reference, though).

boy_slayer, Friday, 16 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

ned, you don't need to hide behind pseudonyms like this.

I'm sorry, it's the tender flower in me.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

one note, two chords = the piano/keyboard to "relentless." which, had remained my favorite song by the group until only recently...
"relentless" is a fantastic ambient pop song. i wish that it went on for ten full years. that probably sounds like something Bimble would say...

i'm distracted by "distractions" recently.

boy_slayer, Saturday, 17 November 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

I can't stop listening to Clear Skin these days. So great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn7vi_k21Tc

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 November 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Clear Skin is great. So is the promo for it, which is quite different. I think it's readily available to download, if you know where to look. It's three shorter separate pieces, and more beat-oriented. Almost as good as Clear Skin proper.

boy_slayer, Thursday, 22 November 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

promo 12" is linked to above:

insides - euphoria

hopefully that mediafire link still works

koogs, Thursday, 22 November 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

Julian Tardo: There’s no old stuff I think needs digging out - all the good stuff is on the LPs I think. I've made a ton of half baked ideas that Kirsty has wrinkled her nose at. There is one band I’ve heard that reminds me of Insides: Oen Sujet from Canada.

They're close, though Oen Sujet meanders and switches up tempos progwise (vs straight up minimalism from Insides). Not well represented online, but the EP can be heard on Juno download, there's rehearsal here, and another track here.

Chinchilla! Chinchilla! Chinchilla! (Sanpaku), Thursday, 22 November 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Just discovered this band a couple of weeks ago. Euphoria and Clear Skin are such beautiful albums. Feel like I've been looking for music that sounds like this for a while. Glad I've discovered them at this time of year, think I'm going to play them a lot over the summer.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 26 April 2014 14:32 (ten years ago) link

I've have trouble getting into Euphoria, but Clear Skin is all time.

Frederik B, Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link

The problem for "Clear Skin" is that "Music for 18 Musicians" exists. I do think its on a par with Glen Velez et al's Musica Esporadica in the Reich-alike sweepstakes.

Congratulations! And my condolences. (Sanpaku), Sunday, 27 April 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Have now heard the Earwig album as well. Damn, these guys were seriously talented. Would like to hear their reunion album at some point but feel I'll be disappointed comparing it to these three brilliant albums.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 26 May 2014 02:17 (nine years ago) link

The problem for "Clear Skin" is that "Music for 18 Musicians" exists. I do think its on a par with Glen Velez et al's Musica Esporadica in the Reich-alike sweepstakes.

― Congratulations! And my condolences. (Sanpaku)

I know what you mean, there are similarities but I enjoyed it all the same.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 26 May 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link

Got Insides - Euphoria a few months ago, I think one of the last two tracks might be my favourite.

If I have any complaint, I think it has too many Cocteau/Guthrie-isms; but loads of great dreampop bands do too, especially when you seek out bands that are similar (but hopefully not too similar to just be poor man's Cocteau Twins).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Insides fans should check out Braids, especially last year's Flourish // Perish. A very similar vibe.

panic disorder pixie (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

"Skykicking" for sure.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Seriously though, what an album

boxedjoy, Monday, 21 July 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

Have you listened to their second album? It's instrumental but equally beautiful in a very different way. The album they put out under the name Earwig is also really fantastic.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

This is such an accomplishment that I would be scared of how a follow-up would only disappoint, but I will investigate.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 10:24 (nine years ago) link

not sure if you've read the whole thread but this bears repeating anyway: everything(?) earwig did is available on bandcamp as a free download.

http://earwiguk.bandcamp.com/

koogs, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link

I didn't realise it was free! How exciting.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

Wow, that Earwig record is wonderful!

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

I find the Earwig album interesting (as well as excellent) - some of it sounds rudimentary compared to Insides while other parts sound even further out? There are bits I could imagine being on a Not Not Fun record today.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

I rather dug Earwig at the time. Saw them a few times at places like the Camden Falcon but beyond the EPs and shows knew little about their background before reading Neil Kulkarni's excellent piece. Great that they're still being talked about. Was also at the Brixton show mentioned in the interview; it was a Club Quirky night at the Vox and they played the whole of Clear Skin behind a mesh cube or something.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 08:59 (nine years ago) link

found a copy of earwig's might ep in a charity shop today. hadn't travelled very far in the last twenty years either - the label's address is only about half a mile from the shop where i found it. great stuff though, sounds like earwig are to insides what late period wolfhounds are to moonshake.

john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 2 August 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

Those 3 EPs are all on Past at the link above

koogs, Saturday, 2 August 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

yeah, i will be checking that for sure (thanks koogs!)

john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 2 August 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

i just found this CD for a dollar in the discount bin, it's pretty great

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 2 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

love it, had no idea they were making a new record

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 1 July 2016 12:19 (seven years ago) link

It was a cool moment seeing on the back of a Slum of Legs record that they'd recorded it at Insides studio

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 1 July 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

Not that they sound anything like them of course

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 1 July 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link

Ah, good. I thought Sweet Trip was a misstep, and this more a progression from Euphoria.

Abandon hype all ye who enter here (Sanpaku), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

There are so many gems on this album, I can't even choose one. I used to think Skykicking was my favorite until Carly Simon kept sneaking into my dreams. It has many interesting changes, but it's mostly the beginning of the outro in the middle of the song (01:52), with those two fading notes that make it lovely. It reminds me a little of St. Etienne. What a record.

chinchilla, Monday, 6 November 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

big love for relentless!

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 6 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

I recently sprung for the 12" for Clear Skin. It's one of my favorite Steve Reich rip-offs. Absolutely incredible.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 6 November 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

I like the 12, but the CD is better.

https://youtu.be/x4H7FtKsPzw?t=0s

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 6 November 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I agree with you there. I've had the CD for a while, but there are different tracks on the 12", so I needed that too.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

being issued for RSD 2019 with liner notes from Simon Reynolds!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 3 March 2019 11:38 (five years ago) link

ziggy from stroom played skykicking on NTS a couple of weeks ago, sounded glorious tbh

kolarov spring (NickB), Sunday, 3 March 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link

amazing record

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 3 March 2019 12:07 (five years ago) link

Earwig's complete(?) discography is now on bandcamp btw

Jeff W, Sunday, 3 March 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link

still see Kirsty and Julian at gigs in Brighton but 2shy 2say hi

kolarov spring (NickB), Sunday, 3 March 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link

You should! They're lovely. I've done some photo sessions with them over the last few years - not sure if it'll ever be used but it was fun anyway. There has been new music in the works for a while.

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 March 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link

"Newly remastered and recut from the original tapes, Euphoria will be available to buy on #RSD19 in the US"

Only in the US? (glum emoji)

Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link

xp they played a one-off gig recently too - in paris supporting seefeel iirc

kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link

Used to love seeing Earwig live. Then saw them do the whole of Clear Skin at The Vox in Brixton which I thought was excellent although not such a great experience for them apparently, as documented in the big Quietus piece probably linked above.

Julian Tardo mastered the recent Sonny Sharrock 'Ask The Ages' reissue for vinyl which by all acounts sounds ace, to make a thread connection. (I know the label guy is also Brighton based as a mutual friend introduced us briefly last year.)

*there's (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 14:12 (five years ago) link

still see Kirsty and Julian at gigs in Brighton but 2shy 2say hi

― kolarov spring (NickB)

You should! They're lovely.

― Michael Jones

Yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't mind! Julian recorded our album and recorded and mixed the singles, he's really really nice.

emil.y, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

yeah i did spot his name on the back of your records :)

kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link

he did the Fear Of Men stuff yesteryear that I really loved

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Did anyone get the remaster yet?

For anybody in the UK, rest of Europe or anywhere else, we’ll have a bunch to sell via bandcamp when RSD has been put to bed x https://t.co/4p7cGBTvM7

— Insides (@Insides__) April 13, 2019

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 15 April 2019 05:23 (five years ago) link

i did ask about that in resident yesterday and got totally blank-faced

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Monday, 15 April 2019 06:14 (five years ago) link

No Insider knowledge in that place.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 15 April 2019 06:34 (five years ago) link

omg this has gotta be the first rsd thing i've cared about

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link

We got a bunch of those in where I work and we didn't sell a single one on the day. It was hard to watch.

kitchen person, Monday, 15 April 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link

oooh, I bet I can still head over to one of our local record shops this week and snag one of those

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link

None of my local record stores (and there's a bunch here) stocked it. And to think I actually showed up early to make sure I snagged a copy of this hot product.

henry s, Monday, 15 April 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

Up for sale at Norman Records now.

https://www.normanrecords.com/records/175938-insides-euphoria

Internet Alan, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

this record is perfect and i hate to have to choose but it has to be "skin divers".

6 Skin Divers (3:30) 0

lol

... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 20:30 (five years ago) link

Just listenied to it this evening and holy crap it’s brilliant!

michaellambert, Monday, 22 April 2019 22:39 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw on twitter that they've got Brighton and London dates coming up, not sure if any others in the UK...

emil.y, Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

I really want to go to this but I'm not gonna be able to persuade anyone to come with me from Glasgow to London for it

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

V tempted to go see them in London on 9th September too but flying all the way to London for it (by myself as no one I know digs them) is a bit mental

The World According To.... (Michael B), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Euphoria @ Social last night was completely great; really heavy sound in parts (Skin Divers was colossal), Kirsty on excellent form and clearly delighted to be there.

Smattering of tracks from (alleged) forthcoming album Soft Bonds that they apparently started recording "in 2012" - first of these was really dense and great. Expect album around 2030 maybe.

Sweet Tip seems to have been ruthlessly purged from the Insides canon by band and audience alike, oh well

technopolis, Thursday, 12 September 2019 06:27 (four years ago) link

It was pretty great, eh? Glorious guitar arpeggios.

Liked the motorik blast of that long middle track in support band Now's set too.

Always wondered what had happened to the photos I took in a couple of sessions 2015-16; turns out one is on their artist page on Spotify.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

Some good news.

https://mailchi.mp/d56d7843cbea/insides-soft-bonds

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

Indeed it is! Never thought I'd see the day...

henry s, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link

Ah, that is brilliant news. I just listened to Clear Skin the other day.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 03:55 (four years ago) link

This is very exciting.

technopolis, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 06:36 (four years ago) link

holy shit!!!

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 07:33 (four years ago) link

Very excited.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link

!!!!!

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link

I go back to the Fear Of Men album from a few years ago that he produced, a lot

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

One of the new tracks is contained in this

https://www.mixcloud.com/camp_fr/arcane-delights-08th-august-2020/

djh, Monday, 10 August 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Here we go!

--

Insides 'Ghost Music'

Release date: available to download on Bandcamp Friday 4 September with advance orders of the new LP ‘Soft Bonds’

'Ghost Music’ is the first track to be aired from ‘Soft Bonds’, Insides’ first album for 20 years.

It was also the first to be finished and came about by scrapping the original structure, leaving only the trace elements. It occupies the negative space that’s left behind, where rhythms are pulses and heartbeats, almost absent or heard from another room, and melodies are memories. It doesn’t look away. The video uses footage of Kirsty and Julian filmed and used in live shows in 1993 and cut with more recent footage from 2016. The past stalks the present.

Insides 'Soft Bonds’
Release date: 6 November 2020, available to order from Bandcamp and record shops from Friday 4 September 2020.
Experimental pop
Download/CD/LP (limited edition 180g pink vinyl) released by Further Distractions, distributed by SRD

Tracklisting:
1. It was Like This Once, It Will Be Like This Again
2. Ghost Music
3. Miserichord
4. The Softest Bonds Resist Resistance
5. Subordinate
6. Hot Warm Cool Cold
7. Thin Skin
8. Half Past 4
9. Undressing

'Soft Bonds' is Insides’ first release for 20 years. It’s the sound of heart-stopping slow motion, blood rushes, fingers digging into bruised flesh, and sleeping with clenched fists.

“We found some things that were recorded a long time ago. We added some things that have been haunting us for for years and recorded some other ideas that we’d just thought of. Recording started at home in 2012, and continued every now and then in our studio, on trains, in the Greek island of Naxos and while wandering around Cissbury Ring, Chanctonbury Ring and Devil’s Dyke in the South Downs. We finally walked away from the recordings in late 2019 and decided to release a small run of CDs and LPs on our own Further Distractions label.

'Soft Bonds' is about the past haunting the present, and gripping onto your crumbling sense of self. It’s informed by the spirit of This Heat/This Is Not This Heat, Patty Waters, Annette Peacock, Eartheater, Mhysa, Arthur Russell, Hailu Mergia, Scott Walker and Arca.”

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

!!!!

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

Oh nice! Have spent many hours dithering about on that part of the South Downs, so that bit of the blurb adds an extra little bit of interest for me

Defund the indefensible (NickB), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

It's sounding good!

djh, Friday, 4 September 2020 07:04 (three years ago) link

Does anyone have a link for this, as it's not coming up on a search on bandcamp?

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 08:09 (three years ago) link

Oh, you could hear the whole thing at 0800 but it's just one track now.

djh, Friday, 4 September 2020 08:31 (three years ago) link

the song streaming there is incredible. hype

learned lasagna (||||||||), Friday, 4 September 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link

Ah, cheers! That does sound incredible.

As soon as the half-whispered vocals kicked in, I started smashing that pre-order button so hard!

Properly excited about this now.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 08:36 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sps2EJl19vQ

learned lasagna (||||||||), Friday, 4 September 2020 08:56 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

well look what the postman has just delivered

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

When I pre-ordered the vinyl in September, I was able to download the entire album from their bandcamp at the same time - pretty sure this was an unintentional glitch as it disappeared from there shortly after. It is completely great though.

technopolis, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link

sounds tremendous on first listen, think i'm going to be v. good friends with this record

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

It's so languid and resigned and because it's: a new Insides record!, that sounds like Insides!, it's consequently totally thrilling and comforting and not-comforting. Obv not a 'joyous' record but it is a joyous listen

technopolis, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

I got mine yesterday and I really like it

Oor Neechy, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

jealous af

||||||||, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link

cant believe how late ive been to this but i discovered them last year & am obsessed ... good timing

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

absolutely dreamy record, full of great moments, not one weak track on it

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

Yeah thanks to the revive I listened to this for the first time and I’m in love.

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

why would they not release the digital to people who preordered on Bandcamp? I did it on a BC Friday and they don’t have to send me any physical product, I could argue that paying for the digital is more purely supportive, but no download available.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

They are doing a paid live show online next Friday. Details here: https://www.facebook.com/events/403800307608131

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 06:42 (three years ago) link

oh nice!

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 09:19 (three years ago) link

glad to hear of people discovering this record now! I could see it being a good moment to hear it for the first time

rob, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

Speaking of first times -- shout out to boy_slayer -- I'm listening to Earwig for the first time (not sure how I missed them as thanks to a girlfriend's cool older sister I've been listening to Euphoria since 1995) and it's great.

btw anyone on this thread who hasn't checked out CS + Kreme would likely benefit: CS + Kreme - Snoopy

rob, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link

Livestream show this Friday!

https://www.meltingvinyl.co.uk/event/insides-live-stream-from-st-georges-church/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

Oh I see Chewshabadoo posted that! Well, to say again!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

It bears repeating!

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 11 January 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link

Is "Really good but not as good as Euphoria" a fair assessment?

I know that sounds a bit grouchy of me.

djh, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

I mean, Euphoria is comfortably all-time-top-10, so I think it's reasonable to acknowledge that it isn't better than that. But it's still completely wonderful that this exists and it as great as it is

technopolis, Monday, 11 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnJcKS5Tt1I

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

^ Wow. Thanks for posting.

djh, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

Livestream happening now. What a lovely performance.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

Also watching it live!

hamicle, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

Yes indeed!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

Well that was really lovely. All these years and I've finally seen them live -- in a way, at least!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

yeah it was great. sad lols about the emf anecdote!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

Ha, I had to briefly step away at one song break so I must have missed it. What was the gist?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

kirsty said that they were used to playing empty venues. apparently they once played a show at the Univerity of London Union and only one person came to see them, and that was the guy from EMF

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link

don't know if she was joking, but it sounded a bit too random to not be true!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link

I thought Earwig had got decent reviews at the time they were around so somewhat surprised to hear that. I think I picked up Euphoria after the fact so assume I had seen good reviews of it. Thinking it must have been a cheap cd shop in Dublin in the late 90s.
Thought it got some recognition at the time.

Stevolende, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link

I don't remember the shows being *completely* empty the few times I saw Earwig, although they were in little places like the Camden Falcon. Not saying anecdote is... unbelievable.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

I just.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

Lol, Nick, you missed the punchline on the joke. After Kirtsy said that the only person who saw one of their shows was the guy from EMF, there was a brief pause before the follow on…

…drumroll…

“Unbelievable.”

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:07 (three years ago) link

but i wanted to believe!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:34 (three years ago) link

good long interview: https://toneglow.substack.com/p/048-insides

adam, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

Great interview! Nice to see some discussion of Sweet Tiptoo, which is a charming record really

technopolis, Thursday, 21 January 2021 07:51 (three years ago) link

I was in a bad mood the other day.

Glad I bought "Soft Bonds", glad I stumped up for the live show (which I think is available for £6.60 until tomorrow). Always thought they were brilliant ("Euphoria" is comfortably *Top 5*) but they seem lovely, too.

djh, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

All aware of this:

https://music.heavenslathe.co.uk/album/crumb-dropper?token=EC-54113655M49928549

100 only but copies currently available.

djh, Friday, 4 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

^ Digital version of this available from Friday, apparently.

djh, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

both records £10 on bandcamp for bandcamp friday

im zelenky (||||||||), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:19 (two years ago) link

excellent, I can finally get a vinyl copy of Euphoria

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:27 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

hey

It’s about time we started posting about this because l👀k ⬇️

Doors at 7, ends at 10. We’re doing a full set. All the rest of it. Look at the art. Smooch to the music. Forget your summer holiday. A FIVER?!https://t.co/s9zeoRdUkr pic.twitter.com/RrSRxeXWSp

— INSIDES (@Insides__) June 30, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:03 (ten months ago) link

Classically it is on a train strike day!

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:27 (ten months ago) link

oh no wayyy! was definitely thinking about going

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 1 July 2023 07:08 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

I've been listening to a.s.o. and they're giving me Insides vibes in how moody and atmospheric it sounds, more on the trip hop style, but still. Very introspective avant pop, to give it a name. The lyrics are worth paying attention to, as well.
https://itsaso.bandcamp.com/album/a-s-o

chinchilla, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:07 (six months ago) link


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