Anyone bought Ne-Yo's "The Year of the Gentleman" yet?

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This boy deserves his own thread already.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

it's definitely on the list of new releases i'm planning on picking up this week, probably tomorrow after work.

some dude, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

i love it.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:18 (seventeen years ago)

loving this...

Smuckles Brothers (stevie), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

he sometimes mistakes chivalry for boot-licking but there really aren't that many queasy moments. 'mad', 'so you can cry' and 'fade into the background' are prob my favourites.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

dear ne-yo, what kind of hat should i buy myself?

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

The last one disappointed me. Other than "Because of You" (one of my top five singles last year), the rest wasn't so much more-of-the-same as not-as-good-as-the-same.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

This album is dull, his worst yet.

After The Hurricane (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

"So You Can Cry" is like the only standout besides "Miss Independent" and "Single"

After The Hurricane (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

I usually don't listen this kind of music too much, but heard this and not that bad at all, better than any mainstream r&b I can remember from the last few years.
"Stop This World" is a really good closing track.

zeus, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

uh if you dont listen to this kind of music much how are you able to tell that it's better than any mainstream r&b??

t_g, Friday, 19 September 2008 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

I really liked "Sex with my ex" on the last one

baaderonixx, Friday, 19 September 2008 15:39 (seventeen years ago)

The main thing that strikes me about this, other than its general standard of quality, is that he's finally figured out how to make uptempo cuts work for him.

LOL SORRY I RUINED UR BLOG AND SENT U GAY MP3S (The Reverend), Friday, 19 September 2008 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

I must be the only one who thinks "Closer" is kinda stunning.

Eric H., Friday, 19 September 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

Lowpoint of the album: "Why Does She Stay"

Eric H., Friday, 19 September 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

I love "Closer."

some dude, Friday, 19 September 2008 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i think most of us all really like "closer"

ilx: a miracle i helped create (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 September 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

OK, my mistake. The first two tracks on this album are fantastic to me. Then his sensitivity starts to get on my nerves.

Eric H., Friday, 19 September 2008 20:17 (seventeen years ago)

"Closer" is one of my favorite singles of the year. Looking forward to picking this up tomorrow. I hope it's better than Because of You (Alfred OTM).

lou, Friday, 19 September 2008 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

I'll admit 4/4 beats are sort of default on my annual lists of favorite singles. I'm sure Janet's "Feedback" will also place highly.

Eric H., Friday, 19 September 2008 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

This album is EXTRAORDINARY. It's so inventive and playful, Ne-Yo is so likable in it, the production is loose and jittery, the songs are juggernauts, every line is a hook, the way the Nancy Sinatra sample suddenly jumps out at the end of Bang Bang is striking and original and it emerges from the great ooze of the bass sounding like a million bucks. Also, his voice is like honey, and well I don't really know what else, he's really arrived for me with this one (not that he hasn't had great singles, but pretty much everything here feels essential to me) Holy Shit Please don't fall in love!

I know, right?, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

I think "Closer" is great, too. Alfred said somewhere he was disappointed with it.

jaymc, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

I'll admit 4/4 beats are sort of default on my annual lists of favorite singles

Not to be pedantic, but I think you mean four to the floor rather than 4/4 (which describes like 90% of popular music)?

jaymc, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

haha i was JUST about to bitch about the misuse of "4/4" that's been so rampant lately. should i blame rich juzwiak?

some dude, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

Probably.

Juzwiak:
You needn't look further than the name of my blog to find that the 4/4 beat—that pummeling disco/house stomp that believes every measure should be equal—is close to my heart.

That's not even an accurate description of four to the floor: it's not that every measure is equal (again, this describes 90% of popular music, probably more) but that every beat is.

jaymc, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i mean i love reading dude's stuff, but i always grind my teeth when he talks about that.

some dude, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

ha, yeah

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

Surely you can accept 4/4 as a colloquial shorthand for four to the floor, right?

4-2-4?

Eric H., Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

Fun fact, "Disco Juice" is in 7/4 4/4 4/4

Eric H., Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

Surely you can accept 4/4 as a colloquial shorthand for four to the floor, right?

lol, have you never discussed music with me before?

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

Surely you can accept 4/4 as a colloquial shorthand for four to the floor, right?

Not when it already has a widely accepted other meaning.

jaymc, Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

ha, i used to HATE that use of 4/4 but it doesn't bother me as much now.

Jordan, Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

wait, i think it still bothers me.

Jordan, Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

dude if you didn't hold shit down for drummer snobs around here I would officially lose my faith

some dude, Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

couple of tracks i've listened to off this were great (only really know him through his singles, i haven't listened to his other albums)

donna rouge, Thursday, 25 September 2008 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

OK, fine. I apologize. I promise to type out four. on. the. floor. from now on.

Eric H., Thursday, 25 September 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)

You could have typed 4ot4 and people would have eventually gotten it.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

looks like aota ... aorta ... heartbeat, it makes me feel ...

Eric H., Thursday, 25 September 2008 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

Haven't bought this yet, and probably will this weekend, but the first two are such solid to unremarkable B+ affairs-plus-great-singles that I'm still skeptical.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

You are still so rong about his first album, but anyway this is great, even if a couple of the ballads are on the treacly side. "Closer" is awesome of course. "Nobody" sounds like something from Justified, oddly enough. The stretch from "Fade Into the Background" to "Back to What You Know" is all brilliant.

My take on the whole "4/4" thing is that "four-to-the-floor" should be abbreviated as "4x4".

Darryl Strawberry (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 September 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

Is it really so hard to just type what you mean???

No I agree with Alfred, but it does not apply to this YOTG because it is clearly great.

I know, right?, Thursday, 25 September 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

Reverend is OTM - "4X4" is widely accepted and understood, and gets a lot of use in discussions of dance music where this stuff comes up the most e.g. in UK Garage people will refer to "4X4 Garage" etc.

Tim F, Friday, 26 September 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

"uh if you dont listen to this kind of music much how are you able to tell that it's better than any mainstream r&b??

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It doesn't mean that I never listen this kind of music, just not my cup of tea.

zeus, Friday, 26 September 2008 10:47 (seventeen years ago)

Say It Fast is incredible, his singing is so great, he really messes around with pretty strange effects and melodies, this album came out of nowhere for me.

I know, right?, Sunday, 28 September 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

Interesting. I honestly didn't expect such a positive reaction. After getting really excited by him after the first album, the second one kinda stopped all his momentum (except for the title track which may be my favorite of his songs). Stuff like "Do You" and "Can We Chill" just really don't sit well with me. Too smooth and lightweight. Plus the fact that he seems like such a cheese bag that sometimes the honeyed vocals and the personality and the total package just turn me off (I realize my feelings about his personality could ideally be separated from my analysis of his music but it just can't be). I definitely wasn't excited by "Miss Independent" and its stuttery pixel-dust synths (enough of those already). But "Closer" is definitely more appealing. Maybe I'll give it a chance.

matt2, Sunday, 28 September 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

Oh and another thing that has soured me on him is this whole "the savior of R&B lyric writing" thing that always comes up regarding him. I mean sure he's written some huge hits, but nothing about his songs scream "genius" to me so much as "effective lyric writer with not much competition in the current landscape."

matt2, Sunday, 28 September 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

This took about three plays to sink in fully, a good sign, and I play it all the time even after writing about it, which is a great sign. This will almost certainly make my Top 5 this year. As Maura pointed out to me, there's really an early-'90s vibe (and not just because of NKOTB), the point where pop and R&B and the emergent Latin invasion were commingling on Top 40. "Stop This World" just totally kills me. So does "Fade Into the Background" and "Mad" and "Lie to Me" and especially "Why Does She Stay." The best Babyface album since Waiting to Exhale.

Matos W.K., Sunday, 28 September 2008 03:36 (seventeen years ago)

Alan Jackson needs to cover "So You Can Cry" so fucking bad.

Matos W.K., Sunday, 28 September 2008 10:24 (seventeen years ago)

He's had an early-90s (or at least mid-90s, which I prefer, actually) vibe all along!

Darryl Strawberry (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 September 2008 10:29 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but it seems more pronounced now, like I think its more overt, you can see it in the cover art and everything.

I know, right?, Sunday, 28 September 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

Right: I didn't say the '90s vibe was new, just that it felt more pronounced.

Matos W.K., Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

Rockin! We're all on the same level then!

I know, right?, Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

closer = R&B single of the year.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

Michael Jackson needs "Nobody," pronto.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

(and it's almost as good as Keith Sweat's "Nobody")

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

It's just sick how many great songs didn't make this though...

I know, right?, Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:50 (seventeen years ago)

Yup. The copy I downloaded is almost entirely different.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 28 September 2008 12:56 (seventeen years ago)

Me too, I was really confused for ages, but some of the best songs (Bang Bang, Say it fast) aren't on the actual album.

I know, right?, Sunday, 28 September 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

OK, uncle: this is mostly terrific. I'll never come around to "Closer," and I'm cooler than Matos on "Stop This World." But the rest! "Single" is like some beautiful marriage between the chords from Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" and a Debarge song. "Fade Into the Background," "Miss Independent," "Back To What You Know" – excellent, excellent.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

yeah the pulse on "Single" is really so unlike anything you hear on urban radio these days, even the dancier stuff, that it's pretty refreshing. I hadn't thought of it being the same tempo as "Time After Time" but it kind of fits.

some dude, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

i got this last night and agree with mostly everything. my favorites are "nobody", "closer" and "miss independent"

the melody of the verses on "single" remind me of "viva la vida" and "back to what you know" is very reminiscent of the studio remix of "2 hearts"

poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

I thought "Single" straight-up sampled "Time After Time"?

This is great! What a huge improvement over his last album. "Nobody", "Fade Into the Background" and "Back to What You Know" are immediate favorites and I'm quickly warming up to the rest. At first I thought there were too many slower songs (I do wish there was another track or 2 like "Nobody"), but now I'm starting to think it's paced quite nicely.

Also curious to hear the other tracks mentioned upthread that aren't included on the actual album.

lou, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:23 (seventeen years ago)

My reaction's sort of the opposite of Alfred's. I like "Closer" a TON, a few others quite a bit, but most of the album slid off my back.

Eric H., Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:24 (seventeen years ago)

it's a v positive sign with this album that when i listen to it i skip 'closer' (which was my early morning jam all summer) and have a different favourite each time. today, 'single'.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit have motherfuckers heard the "Miss Independent" remix with Jamie Foxx?

© 2008 (The Reverend), Friday, 3 October 2008 07:01 (seventeen years ago)

holy... mad is awesome!!

s1ocki, Monday, 6 October 2008 01:24 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit is there a motherfucker that thinks the boring "Miss Independent" remix has anything on the original?

some dude, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit this changes everything

s1ocki, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:28 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not that hot on the original tho. Love the remix.

© 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 03:45 (seventeen years ago)

TS: Closer vs Forever (Chris Brown)

ILX MOD (musically), Monday, 6 October 2008 08:59 (seventeen years ago)

Forever>Closer, but just about.

I know, right?, Monday, 6 October 2008 09:05 (seventeen years ago)

'closer'...compared to chris brown's other singles, 'forever' is kind of inessential.

lex pretend, Monday, 6 October 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

All of Chris Brown's singles since (but not including) "Yo" have been kind of inessential.

© 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, my god there is so much disagreement on this thread!

I know, right?, Monday, 6 October 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

- the video for 'mad' is amazing - i agree w/matos @ idolator about how its acuity and quality corresponds to what makes ne-yo's music special
- 'so you can cry': the narrator is so totally the gay best friend, not the new lover
- 'single' might well be the greatest song ever written right now

lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

Also if dude wants to convince us he's not gay he should stop consuming rose and calimari.

"Single" may or may not be my favourite on the album (that or "Fade Into The Background" or "Mad" or etc. etc.) but it's such a perfect encapsulation of what makes him special.

I was thinking about this in the context of the The-Dream vs Ne-Yo thread. With The-Dream his songs are more affecting than they should be, like, it's pure impulse that encourages him to insert those awe-struck harmonies into "Shawty Is Da Shit", or the death-croak-autotune "always thinking of you" whisper into "Mama" (real talk: that song tears me up every single time), or the way he sings "you got your hair did - I'm about to mess that shit up!" so sensitively in "Purple Kisses". It's impossible to convey in print how affecting these moments are because in a weird way their emotional power doesn't make sense (or, at least, isn't called for) in the context of the song. This music sounds very generous to me: it gives more than it has to. The generosity of excess. Which is what The-Dream shares with Prince above and beyond direct musical quotes.

Whereas with Ne-Yo, you get the sense that he knows exactly what he's doing, and this is a good thing. There's a real sense of conscious generosity throughout the record which peaks with "Single", the way he directly addresses the fantasy of the considerate loverman in pop and literally offers himself up to be used in this manner, not in a sexual "use me" way (which you could see The-Dream doing) but in this much stronger metaphysical sense, "I only exist so as to exist in your head" perhaps.

It's also very clever, though not in an alienating way. In fact, one of the things I like with Ne-Yo is the sense that he is simultaneously a part of mainstream R&B discourse and also apart from it, or at least able to find a perspective where he can look back on it. Something like "What's The Matter" (is this on most people's versions of the album?) wouldn't make sense coming from The-Dream because it would puncture his own facade ("Nikki" is the closet he can get to this, and even here it's less puncturing the fantasy of high-life glamour than it is saying "my high-life glamour is better than his"). Conversely, when nu-soul singers try on something like "What's The Matter" it ends up sounding hamfisted and didactic. Whereas Ne-Yo is able to find a space between these points where he can reflect on the contradictions of the discourse he's part of. I'm tempted to come across all wanky and call this "immanent critique".

Tim F, Thursday, 27 November 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/animals/tl;dr.jpg

these bitches they hatin cuz i just put my new weave in (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 27 November 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

"too long; didn't read"??

Tim F, Thursday, 27 November 2008 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol yeah, sorry. I did actually read it.

these bitches they hatin cuz i just put my new weave in (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 27 November 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

Also if dude wants to convince us he's not gay he should stop consuming rose and calimari

^^^^

Miccio wrote this the other day: "Quality songwriting aside (though some of the midi-synth flourishes are worthy of a video game about elves), his concept of a "gentleman" seems pretty damn sniveling."

The first clause does a lot to redeem Ne-Yo's masochism. Also, what Tim called his habit of inhabiting scenarios and observing them at the same time; he's like an R&B Neil Tennant -- the Neil Tennant pre-Very, of course. To me he only loses control on the "Heal The World" ballad that Matos likes a lot. In that song, he's a bit like bad Luther Vandross, so sincere about placing himself in the line of Great R&B Love Gods that the cracks show, and the sentiments turn into kitsch.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 27 November 2008 02:41 (seventeen years ago)

*The quality of Ne-Yo's songwriting (mentioned in Anthony's clause) does a lot to redeem Ne-Yo's masochism, that is.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 27 November 2008 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, Miccio pretty much nailed why I prefer In My Own Words. With the new album, I react to his moral infallibility with something akin to disgust.

WE DO THIS FOR THE GHETTO! (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 November 2008 05:16 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, it's his eye and his sly remove that makes him not just bearable but worth rooting for. He's obviously working (esp. on the ballads) within a very wimpy lineage: Babyface back to Russell Thompkins Jr. He's a pushover soul man, that's the role, but on this album he's about the most nuanced pushover soul man I've ever heard.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:01 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, he falls more gracefully than anyone else.

Tim F, Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:05 (seventeen years ago)

the way he directly addresses the fantasy of the considerate loverman in pop and literally offers himself up to be used in this manner

yeah, generosity is exactly the word which sprung to mind re: 'single'. the first time i half-heard it i assumed the scenario was the standard "ne-yo macking on to a girl in a club" - which, as chivalrous and suave as that can be, is still pretty self-interested. but actually it's the exact opposite - he's only present as the voice on the record, the imaginary figure in the girls' head, the 'real' ne-yo gets nothing out of the exchange at all.

'why does she stay' is the only song when ne-yo seems too much of a pushover....it seems slightly too pathetic.

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

I agree but it seems ironic given it's the only song in which Ne-Yo-the-character ever behaves badly.

"Mad", "Fade Into The Background" and (perhaps surprisingly) "Back To What You Know" strike me as pretty on-point, and there's just the right level of condescending dismissiveness to "Back To What You Know" (half of it just in that fabulous beat).

At his best Ne-Yo strikes me as being like a male character on Sex & The City (though not Mr. Big). Which will only put a lot of people off I suspect, but that's a fairly high standard for thoughtfulness w/r/t relationships in a pop song.

Tim F, Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:46 (seventeen years ago)

So is he a gay dude who fantasizes about being god's gift to women or a Lloyd Dobler who feels better about himself when he's crying and admiring from a distance rather than regularly fucking the object of his affection?

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

This thread (and the video for "Mad," lol whatta actor) are leaning me towards the former...which actually makes me less annoyed with the album. Means his overmisthinking of the romantic ideal comes from a less emo-resentable place.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

actually, that's kinda glib and condescending of me to suggest it's cool if he wants to push a line as long he's a closet case or something, sorry. Irregardless to his real life, I'm cool with this album through "Miss Indepedent," "Why Does He Stay" on is when his persona gets suffocating.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

"Why Does She Stay," I mean. genuine typo.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2008 19:56 (seventeen years ago)

suuuure!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 27 November 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

I'm wondering how much of this closet case thing is wishful thinking, I was listening to him on my headphones earlier and I was hungover and having the drinking blues and y'know, melting a little.

I know, right?, Friday, 28 November 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

I think just as many straight dudes are calling him on the closet case thing as gay dudes, so not really.

The Saving Grace of Gospel House (The Reverend), Friday, 28 November 2008 03:56 (seventeen years ago)

For the record, as a gay dude, I don't find his depiction of straight relationships to be that bizarre or unbelievable (unusual/distinct, yes).

It's more that I can see how all the little touches (drinking rose etc.) won't help settle rumours that are out there.

It helps that I don't have a crush on him. To the extent that I "melt" it's more like watching a romantic film and being in love with the idea of a couple without wanting to be a member of that couple.

Whereas I'm much more directly affected by The-Dream's performances (though he is less attractive).

Tim F, Friday, 28 November 2008 06:10 (seventeen years ago)

He is ugly as hell, I don't know why anyone would wish for him to be gay. The gay rumors won't go away because he is REALLY gay. I mean...:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/footballboners/Other/neyo3.png

......................................

these bitches they hatin cuz i just put my new weave in (The Brainwasher), Friday, 28 November 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I didn't mean to make it sound like Ne-Yo was really good looking, neither of them are exactly homecoming queens. Woah that picture is...

Tim F, Friday, 28 November 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i definitely don't have a crush on ne-yo. if it was about wish-fulfilment there'd be a lot more chris brown rumours.

i started imagining how the whole album would work from a gay perspective - you get the sense that it's almost like a manual to being a gentleman - ne-yo providing a template for straight dudes to follow when it comes to treating a lady right.

lex pretend, Friday, 28 November 2008 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

There was a book a few years ago where a straight woman and a gay man co-wrote offering advice to straight men about dating. Perhaps Ne-Yo and Rihanna could do another collabo along these lines.

Tim F, Friday, 28 November 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Queer Eye?

I know, right?, Friday, 28 November 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

That picture is horrible, he looks like a character from Oz but Ne Yo is totally good looking, he's really unusual looking is all. Still, the bit at the beginning of Miss Independant, he seems really uncomfortable with being so suave, kinda reminds me of the really creepy parts of "You Rock My World"

I know, right?, Friday, 28 November 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

i love ne-yo but i wish he didnt make even a track as funky as fade into a background another woe is me song (also wish it didnt have those now-done to death filter effects).

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 14 February 2009 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

Ne-Yo interviewed by Maura for Idolator.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Who's the "Love" demo for?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

me

s1ocki, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

very mj but very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvMz__7ctuE

tickle me imo (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 August 2009 06:20 (sixteen years ago)

this is dope

wiki says he has "no plans to begin work on a fourth album until 2010," which is kind of a shame since he seems so focused on songwriting and at this point i'd rather hear him sing his songs than almost anyone else

some dude, Saturday, 15 August 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

i haven't pulled this one out in a hot minute

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 15 August 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

Oh man I love this--thanks J.

Matos W.K., Saturday, 15 August 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

Not bad at all! Where is this found?

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 August 2009 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.mixtapekings.com/images/rnb/tapemasters_inc-future_rnb_28-300.gif

tickle me imo (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 August 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

here is an mp3 http://www.zshare.net/audio/63532158a3320797/

tickle me imo (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 August 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

yes this is great

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

got a promo email re this song - not sure if it's a new single or what, haven't read anything about a new album or anything but it's a stargate production so it could be - it's definitely good tho, he's been on some kind of roll lately - might be missing a huge chorus but could also be a grower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4YTgH5nwpM

see-those-tit-ies (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

I love this. Would love a copy.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

lemme upload it

see-those-tit-ies (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

http://sharecash.org/download.php?file=135097

k3vin k., Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

was in the youtube info

k3vin k., Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

I don't care is one of my most played Ne-Yo tracks since last bump, dunno if u can really follow that up haha

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.mediafire.com/?kz0jmy0wdij

see-those-tit-ies (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

this is supposedly new -- it's also very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfySFLkRioM

Yo cassidy is so hot. He blowin up really big. His freestyles are si (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-kk_Av-WkM&fmt=35

;_;

r|t|c, Friday, 26 March 2010 11:35 (sixteen years ago)

zzzzzzzz

it is just like an unknown puzzle till the end of the world (dyao), Friday, 26 March 2010 11:40 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haRiSeBYIHc

this is a serviceable and doubtless soon-to-be v popular song and all but i think i would prefer it if schafer did a 808 state covers album instead

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 11:26 (sixteen years ago)

i hated Closer at first and ended up loving it, but this is just lame through and through

every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

I liked this a lot til it got to the chorus, which is kinda hokey, but I think I give it the thumbs up overall

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:26 (sixteen years ago)

some dude OTM on "Closer"

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:26 (sixteen years ago)

I loved "Closer" immediately

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

"Closer" is one of those songs you can sing along with by the time the last chorus rolls around, on your first play.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

with bad approximations of house music suffocating the radio, i kinda wish he would pull back from this -- this is actually okay on the whole, but the chorus is a complete mess

and what the fuck kinda name is 'libra scale' -- good christ

mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i thought "closer" was a banger immediately -- i can't abide by this hook tho

mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

he's already had like 5 better songs leak this year

mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

with bad approximations of house music suffocating the radio, i kinda wish he would pull back from this -- this is actually okay on the whole, but the chorus is a complete mess

yeah, this is otm

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i will say it was sounding promising up until that chorus hit

every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

besides the melody being totally pedestrian, i ne-yo of all people would be immune to writing something as meaningless and embarrassing as "beautiful monster" -- super disappointed considering how titanic i think the first 3 singles off YOTG are

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

i should note that i'm referring to the phrase "beautiful monster" not the song itself

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

the bassline sounds like someone's playing benga in the next room

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 31 May 2010 13:09 (sixteen years ago)

i kinda have this stuck in my head, which i'm taking as a good sign

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Saturday, 5 June 2010 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

been hearing this on the radio -- i think it's kind of corny tbh but it's better than "beautiful monster"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkE2eAriDzQ

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

those vocals in the chorus are irritating as fuck actually

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

Yuck!

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 June 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

okay so i've relatively come around to "beautiful monster" the more i hear it on the radio, but "champagne life" is probably the worst single of the year after "my chick bad"

the resulting pussy stubble (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 July 2010 07:29 (fifteen years ago)

i totally remember posting a half-hearted defense of "champagne life" but for some reason it's not here. huh.

anyway lol @ this: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/17386/180872

my nickname on ILX is frapped up shawty (some dude), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

uh

Mister AOR (The Reverend), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

UH

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

man it's one thing dude having your garden variety nerd leanings (makes sense actually) but JAPANIMATION uh oh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

i basically will forever disapprove of any schafer concept album that doesnt involve 12 duets with plies tho

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

i feel like you could tell me that every album that i own is a loose concept/story album and i would believe you because this shit never makes any difference at all

young monet (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

i weep every day that there is no The Year Of The Goontleman

my nickname on ILX is frapped up shawty (some dude), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

omg shaffer wtf

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 July 2010 04:17 (fifteen years ago)

j0rdan wtf "champagne life" is dope. kinda needs a hook, but i think i am a total sucker for cracking snares in my male-fronted r&b

Mister AOR (The Reverend), Saturday, 17 July 2010 08:41 (fifteen years ago)

idk if it's going to be possible for me to warm up to "beau-tee-ful monster" :\

teledyldonix, Saturday, 17 July 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

The "whoa-oh-oh" part of "champagne life" is literally torture

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 July 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

I could give a f less about snares

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 July 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

"Beautiful Monster" is still way worse, but either way I'm feeling pretty bummed about the prospects of an album I would've otherwise been anticipating big time.

some dude, Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

The "whoa-oh-oh" part of "champagne life" is literally torture

― i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:33 AM Bookmark

i think this is where i make the exact same confused face u did when i said i couldn't stand j holiday

BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

the "whoa-oh-oh" part is great if it's what i think you are talking about. u mad.

BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

damn, i think i like this song a lot

BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

i don't think it's very good, tbh, i just don't totally get j0rdan's hate. he can be kinda random about being all I AM SO FUCKING APPALLED about stuff like "Imma Star."

magic ksh (some dude), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

my problem was like i heard it and was like "oh finally, something besides 'beautiful monster'" and then it turned out to be worse -- it's just a really chintzy song, idk

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

but it's terrible on it's own merits -- just can't stand that melody

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

i don't think it's very good, tbh, i just don't totally get j0rdan's hate. he can be kinda random about being all I AM SO FUCKING APPALLED about stuff like "Imma Star."

― magic ksh (some dude), Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:08 PM Bookmark

yeah dude is weird. i don't get the source of his annoyance at all.

BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

is there actually a "whoa-oh-oh" part or are we talking about the scatty "badoom-bum-bum" part? because I do agree that it's annoying, i just don't feel strongly about it. it's just generic like a lot of Ne-Yo's hooks on rap singles, not really any worse than "Super High."

magic ksh (some dude), Sunday, 18 July 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, the "badoom-bum-bum" part is what i'm talking about

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's pretty easy to see how it's annoying? it's like a bad commercial jingle

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

it's like "i'm lovin it" or something

i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

it sounds just like this part of "we major" which u stan 4 iirc jordan sargent

BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Monday, 19 July 2010 08:45 (fifteen years ago)

but it's way better than "we major"

BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Monday, 19 July 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry to link to Perez, but...?!

http://perezhilton.com/2010-07-21-ne-yo-involved-with-underage-prostitute

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 22 July 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

o_O

The Reverend, Thursday, 22 July 2010 07:45 (fifteen years ago)

uhhh did we see this video yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J2dwFVZHsY

oh shaffer

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

wait "one in a million" is kind of really good

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 September 2010 07:55 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i wasnt expecting much after his "rap" at the start but its actually a nice return to form for him

chilli, Thursday, 16 September 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I can't stop listening to "One in a Million." And I even kind of like the video, even though it's just a rip-off of "The Way You Make Me Feel" (okay, plus a dumb superhero element).

!Alicia!, Thursday, 16 September 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

Ne-No, I have Ne-Not bought it yet

del griffith, Thursday, 16 September 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

dope song, lol at the video

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

i am kinda obsessed with "champagne life" now

The Reverend, Friday, 17 September 2010 05:47 (fifteen years ago)

-_-

J0rdan S., Friday, 17 September 2010 05:48 (fifteen years ago)

i would like to point out that this is roughly 400 times better than anything actually on this incoming shitpile of an album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfySFLkRioM

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 07:12 (fifteen years ago)

I haven't heard the album yet but "Beautiful Monster" is 1000x the song that "Drinks Up" could ever hope to be.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 20 September 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

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ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Just got my review copy of this album, and I'm enjoying it. The superhero motif is mercifully unobtrusive. It's a much more upbeat album than Gentleman, and the Michael Jackson influence is extremely thick ("Cause I Said So" sounds like a Dangerous outtake). A few of the softer ballads haven't made much of an impression on me yet, but that's nothing new. I still not a fan of "Beautiful Monster," but that song isn't indicative of the album's sound at all, and it's buried unceremoniously at the end of the record where it doesn't do much damage. This is definitely a smoother, more adult-friendly R&B album than it's been marketed as.

Evan R, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

I had no idea it was possible to even try to market a Ne-Yo album as anything other than smooth and adult-friendly

some dude, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

can't wait for this

dayo, Monday, 1 November 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

downloading this now, i don't think there's anyway it can actually live down to my expectations, thankfully

ain't no half-trollin (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

I'm really enjoying it, though if you don't like "Champagne Life" you might have a harder time with it, since that song is a good litmus test for the album. My low expectations came from "Beautiful Monster," which is the album's real outlier.

Evan R, Thursday, 4 November 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

i like "one in a million" a lot

ain't no half-trollin (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 November 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

the GNR song?

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 November 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

i heard the ne-yo "one in a million" once and don't remember a thing about it

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

ditto

lil bow bow (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

tbf i can't remember anything about it either, except that i remember thinking that i liked it a lot

ain't no half-trollin (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 November 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)

The outro to "Cause I Said So" = jittery early eighties robo-funk heaven.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

"one in a million" has a total boy band vibe that i dig

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 November 2010 03:35 (fifteen years ago)

heard "one in a million" for the first time last night and was very pleased. i was worried i would never like a ne-yo song again!

teledyldonix, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:42 (fifteen years ago)

Libra Scale is growing on me nicely; it's a charming little album. Doesn't have the blockbuster YOTG singles, but it's lighter on its toes than that record; it just breezes from start to finish

Evan R, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

strange affair for a purported blockbuster this. it is indeed a uniformly pleasant listen (short like an ep too) but doesn't really ever seem to get out of second gear to become anything more than that - i would be disappointed if this was the result of anything longer than an afternoon's work. very reminiscent of rick ross' recent albums of empty luxe signifiers, only with an mj bent (ie it's true about 'champagne life' being its litmus test.)

as it is, what could have been a bravura r&b bait-n-switch kinda leaves me almost wanting the silly superhero concept album i thought i was in for; at very least the way 'what have i done' works so nicely as the remorseful part 2 jekyll to 'beautiful monster's hyde suggests some interplay with the erstwhile theme might have been more profitable. (interplay in a broad sense rather than just soundtracking some bogus b-movie script like this album supposedly does.)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

it is indeed a uniformly pleasant listen (short like an ep too) but doesn't really ever seem to get out of second gear to become anything more than that

After four plays, I'm in this camp too. He's a better arranger now than he was in 2006 though.

otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

jordan otm about 'one in a million' btw, it's kinda a nothing-or-compulsive-song but i'm leaning towards the latter view lately. (especialy what with the winter nights drawing in over here.)

the boyband thing feels very true too but i can't quit put an objective finger on how it works exactly.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

All the good fast ones remind me of the last one's "Nobody."

otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

true, although nothing here is remotely in 'nobody's league.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

'one in a million' is really clicking for me

steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)

same here, dope single. really loving "Genuine Only" on the album too.

some dude, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

the album's a B+ or B. Certainly not loving it like I did its predecessor.

Anyway, my review.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

like the album but i took "beautiful monster" off of it on accident and don't miss it

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 06:32 (fifteen years ago)

I listened to 'because of you' today also and realized that libra scale is just an album of deep cuts off of because of you

steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 06:38 (fifteen years ago)

wtf, "beautiful monster" is the album's lone highlight for me

xp

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

i think you're alone in that, dude.

some dude, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

oh i know ^_^

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

then why bother saying "wtf" like you're surprised?

some dude, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

wasn't meant to indicate surprise, more like "i disagree w/ that"

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

what the fuck do you think "wtf" means

some dude, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

lol, not gonna have this conversation, sorry -- "wtf" totally dependent on context/tone

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

i disagree with that, but let me put that in terms you understand: wtf

some dude, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)


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