Rolling Country 2010

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Best of Chris Cagle Chris Cagle Capitol Nashville February 9
Crows Alison Moorer Rykodisc February 9
Everything Comes and Goes Michelle Branch Warner Bros. Nashville TBA
Get Off on the Pain Gary Allan MCA Nashville March 9
Greatest Hits Gretchen Wilson Columbia Nashville January 19
A Guy Like Me Trent Tomlinson Lyric Street TBA
Haywire Josh Turner MCA Nashville February 9
Hillbilly Bone Blake Shelton Warner Bros. Nashville TBA
I Got Your Country Right Here Gretchen Wilson Redneck Records TBA
I'm Alright Bucky Covington Lyric Street TBA
James Otto James Otto Warner Bros. Nashville TBA
Lifted Off the Ground Chely Wright Vanguard May 4
A Little More Country Than That Easton Corbin Mercury Nashville TBA
My Best Days Danny Gokey RCA Nashville/19 TBA
My Place in Heaven Sara Evans RCA Nashville TBA
Need You Now Lady Antebellum Capitol Nashville January 26
Not Too Bad Blaine Larsen Treehouse TBA
Right Road Now Whitney Duncan Warner Bros. Nashville TBA
Sarah Buxton Sarah Buxton Lyric Street February 23
Somewhere in Time Reckless Kelly Yep Roc February 9
A Story to Tell SHeDAISY Lyric Street TBA
Valentine's Day (soundtrack) Various Artists Big Machine February 9
Way Out Here Josh Thompson Columbia Nashville February 23
A Woman Needs Jessica Harp Warner Bros. Nashville February 16

President Keyes, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Have heard the Gary Allan and Lady Antebellum, but have no opinion about them yet.

Favorite country album of the year so far: Ray Wylie Hubbard A. Enlightenment B. Endarkment (Hint: There Is No C) (Thirty Tigers/Bordello.) I've never paid any attention to the guy before.

Link to last year's thread, which may come in handy at times:

Rolling Country 2009 Thread

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, we ended that thread discussing '80s and '90s country, and I hope that discussion can continue on this thread this year. I was kind of snotty to 1994's The Blackwell Guide To Country Music, edited by Bob Allen, but the more I look at it (it's been my bathroom book of choice the past few days), the more useful it seems like it might be.

One thing it reminds me is how confusing country radio (which I wasn't listening to at all at the time) must have sounded in the late'80s and early '90s, when bohemian types like k.d. lang and Lyle Lovett and K.T Oslin and Mary Chapin-Carpenter and Steve Earle and Dwight Yoakam were scoring actual hits, along with scores of now-forgotten pop hacks, apparently. I'm only fans of a couple of those artists, and I'm on record as actively disliking a few of them, but that's an odd list, no?

Anyway, here are some albums that Bob Allen recommends in the back of his '80s chapter that I may pick up if I see cheap copies somewhere:

Earl Thomas Conley - Yours Truly
Sammy Kershaw - Haunted Heart
Lee Roy Parnell - Lee Roy Parnell (didn't he have a couple hits, too?)
Mike Reid - Turning For Home (former Cincinnati Bengal, I believe)
Hal Ketchum - Past The Point Of Rescue (with spooky title track hit)
The Desert Rose Band - The Desert Rose Band (feat. Chris Hillman)

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Happy New Year. Here's my '09 list of Top 35 country singles.

Not sure that even I'd call Mary Chapin Carpenter a bohemian, and I tend to stretch that category all different ways beyond any recognizability. Sure, she's coffee house, but the coffee house is Starbucks. Left of the basic country market, for sure, but then so are most singer songwriters. Not an easy fit in the genre, I suppose. (I like her voice, by the way, warm and smooth, though her songs tended too often towards blah; at least that's the way I remember them.) I think Rosanne Cash and the Dixie Chicks are as bohemian as she is, if not more so. And so's Willie Nelson.

Any thoughts about Holly Williams? She grazed the country top 60 a couple of times last year; she's also fundamentally a singer songwriter, even if her granddad did die in a Cadillac. The single, "Keep The Change," feels a bit like Christine McVie singing Van Morrison's "Wild Night," though not very wild. But good.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Ray Wylie Hubbard's MySpace page looks more gothic than I was expecting. A darkneck mother.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link

His music (voice included) is more rock than I was expecting. But I need to spend more time with the CD before I attempting explaining why, and why I think (some of?) the songs are good.

And Frank, you are right about Mary Chapin-Carpenter. Actually I'd say she (and K.T. Oslin too -- and maybe some of the others; Starbucks would certainly seem hospitable to k.d.'s and Lyle's music) are maybe more Bobos (in the David Brooks sense) than Bohos. I was sleepy when I wrote that above; was going to say something like "urbanites and bohemians," then just wrote that not-totally-accurate word for shorthand. And I agree about the Dixie Chicks and of course Willie (and other outlaws, I'm sure.) But there still does seem somehing uniquely, uh, alternative about that early '00s country chart period to me.

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Rosanne Cash maybe a Bobo, too, in the long run (though I don't doubt she's had Boho moments.) (And obviously, these categories are always shorthand, and never precise. If they mean anything at all.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

"...uniquely, uh, alternative about that early '90s country chart period..." I obviously meant.

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Though meanwhile, speaking of country in the '00s, here's Jon Caramanica in this morning's NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/arts/music/03nashville.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, we ended that thread discussing '80s and '90s country, and I hope that discussion can continue on this thread this year. I was kind of snotty to 1994's The Blackwell Guide To Country Music, edited by Bob Allen, but the more I look at it (it's been my bathroom book of choice the past few days), the more useful it seems like it might be.

So, in the end would you recommend this book? It can be had for real cheap at Amazon.
Also, Lee Roy Parnell did indeed have a few Country hits. He had 12 Top 40 songs, 3 songs went to #2 and 2 went to #3. I have a compilation on him, and do remember buying that self-titled album (and also the Hal Ketchum one). The Ketchum is worth picking up, can't say I remember much about the Parnell one, though. But the last time Parnell was on the Country charts was in 2004.
Also, I liked the Holly Williams album that came out last year. Thought it would do better, but it was missing a big hit to put it over.

jetfan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd say, if you can get the book for real real cheap, it's definitely worth it. (Not sure where I got mine, but the sticker on the cover still says $2.98, marked down from an earlier $4.98.)

So...has anybody heard any of these songs? (From Billboard's current country chart. I'm guessing the Gretchen one is probably the highest charting Billboard song ever with a land mammal so large in its title, unless there have been any with elephants, which there probably have):

31 31 39 4 Camouflage And Christmas Lights, Rodney Carrington
S.Dorff (A.Dorff,M.Logen ) Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 31

42 41 43 5 Dancing In Circles, Love And Theft
J.Coplan,R.E.Orrall (S.B.Liles,R.E.Orrall,R.Springer ) Lyric Street DIGITAL | 41

47 54 2 I Want A Hippopotamas For Christmas, Gretchen Wilson
G.Wilson (J.Rox ) Redneck DIGITAL | CO5 | 47

52 51 51 3 Rockin' The Beer Gut (Holla Day Version), Trailer Choir
T.Keith,Butter (Butter ) Show Dog Nashville DIGITAL | 51

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Jon Caramanica on the new Phil Vassar LP. (Scroll down a little.) He's right in observing (as I have repeatedly before) that Vassar is basically a good soft-rock singer-songwriter. But claiming "Bobbi With An I" is the worst song on the album is as perplexing to me as, say, claiming "Then" is the best song on the current Brad Paisley album (which several critics out there do inexplicably believe, apparently):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/arts/music/04choice.html

xhuxk, Monday, 4 January 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

And speaking of Paisley, Frank wrote on his livejournal blog a few days ago that "'Welcome To The Future' has a much richer sense of color than I'd ever heard from Brad Paisley, feels like something new in country; thick, bright paint." Which makes sense to me, but is also funny, given that Brad is actually seen painting on the CD cover (something else I've never seen on a country album, though when Big N Rich came out in 2004 they employed a woman painter with an easel set up on the side of the stage, to paint her visual impressions as they played their songs).

xhuxk, Monday, 4 January 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Reading the first Caramanica piece... Well, what struck me about Reba isn't that Nashville has an "enduring pension plan for its cherished acts," but that Reba is pretty much the only country woman in her 50s to still be on a major label. Am I right about that? (Her label is associated with Big Machine, which is a small operation with big sales and calls itself an indie, but I'm pretty sure its stuff is distributed by Universal, which makes the product not indie.) I think what happened to Deana Carter is more typical; in 2003 on her fourth studio album she scored a number 14 country hit with "No Limit" and the album got into the country top 10, but after that she ended up on Vanguard rather than a major, her being in her late 30s likely having something to do with it. (But I haven't researched this; on her next album she sang, "Some music man didn't give a damn what I had to say," which I took to be some guy from a label, but I might be wrong; you know, maybe she chose to go to an indie, for the freedom.)

Hmmm, checking this out a little bit, Tanya Tucker and Patty Loveless, both in their early 50s, are on Saguaro Records, which is distributed by Warners, Rosanne Cash in her mid 50s is on Manhattan which is distributed by EMI, Wynonna in her mid 40s is on Curb, which I think is an indie but gets some product distributed by majors, Trisha Yearwood in her mid 40s is on Big Machine, Martina McBride in her early 40s is on RCA, Terri Clark in her early 40s is on Capitol Nashville (though most of her hits are coming in Canada), Faith Hill in her early 40s is on Warners. So the situation isn't as dire as I thought (and probably compares favorably with the plight of non-country women over 40). Also, women hit in country much less than men, which is too bad because on average they're better. (I haven't actually checked if that remark about their being better is true. They tend to cluster atop my Country Critics ballots. Maybe if more hit the average would go down.)

I'm still unhappy about Ashley Monroe and Caitlin & Will getting dropped, which had nothing to do with age; I assume it has more to do with major labels not feeling they can invest in someone for the long haul. The labels themselves might not have a long haul.

(Info in this post is mostly drawn from Wikipedia, which is not always reliable.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Really excited about an album by Easton Corbin. Has anyone heard anything other than the single from last year, A Little More Country Than That?

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't, but I heard that single for the first time over Xmas, down in central Missouri, which has MUCH better country radio than Chicago. I liked it, it was witty like a showtune, the kind of thing I could feel good about learning and singing in the shower, but the business about him being faithful to his woman because he's so country troubled me. Like, since when has country music been this monolithic paean to fidelity?

dr. phil, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

as perplexing to me as, say, claiming "Then" is the best song on the current Brad Paisley album

Xhuxk, I can see you really wanna get to the bottom of this, so I've prepared a handy list of pros and cons. I was gonna do all three singles, but "American Saturday Night" is nowhere near being in the running for me, even though it's fine and all.

"Then" PRO:
nice piano
most natural-sounding, unforced melody
perfect classical structure--you can admire it like a vase or something
somewhat related to the last one: arrives at the final title word with the inevitability of a stage play, sort of like "The Dance" by Garth Brooks
I relate and can imagine slow dancing to it at a wedding
my Mom likes it, and we like so few of the same songs
good guitar solo

"Then" CON:
like, maybe too slow and normal or something? What don't you like about it again?

"Welcome to the Future" PRO:
the drums kicking in
good guitar fills and solo
soaring chorus
nice progression from mundanity to profundity
gang shouted "Hey"s
first half of verse 3 is really affecting
song makes my wife dance like she's in the '80s, apparently

"Welcome to the Future" CON:
the tune sounds a little constructed and forced
"Wake up Martin Luther"
second half of third verse is awkward

So they're pretty close. I actually realized I like "WTTF" more than I thought I did. (Ooh, I just realized it has good initials, too. Another tick in the PRO column!) But I still like "Then" more. Less labored, more perfect, like it's springing from Brad's mind as he sings. I hope this clears things up.

dr. phil, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe too slow and normal or something? What don't you like about it again?

Replace "normal" with "utterly average" and you're getting there. I dunno, maybe I'm just not a big fan of vases. It just strikes me as one of the most run-of-the-mill and humorless things on an otherwise often really fun album. But then, Paisley's ballads have almost never held my attention; he's never been a better than average singer, and they tend to strike me as completely irreplaceable with lots of other people's ballads. (Also, you left out that "WTTF" sounds so colorful, as Frank said, and new, and energetic, and is super catchy on a car radio, and has several more clever words than "Like a river meets the sea, stronger than it's ever been.") Still, thanks -- honest! And who knows, maybe "Then" will sneak up on me sometime, when my back is turned.

So far, I find that Easton Corbin song really irritating. (But who knows there, too.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, forget I said vases. I don't admire vases either. Replace "vase" with "really good Gary Giddins review," or other classically structured artwork that you like.

dr. phil, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"...completely replaceable with lots of other people's ballads...," I meant. (Which is one of things that bugs me about all the top ten lists I'm seeing "Then" on. For instance, here's Jody Rosen, in Slate's year-end music thing: "The hit was the ballad 'Then,' which I half-think Paisley wrote just to school Rascal Flatts, Nashville's slow-dance schlock-specialists." School them on what exactly? Rascal Flatts already know how to make boring ballads. And their "Summer Nights" was as good a 2009 single as any that Brad did.) (Actually, Rosen said it was to school them on prom songs, fwiw.)

I voted for Paisley's album in Pazz & Jop, and it was my #2 in the Nashville Scene poll, but it's still getting on my nerves how (just like Miranda Lambert) he's increasingly "the country singer it's okay for critics to like." Honestly, that's a good reason to be skeptical.

A link to Rosen's thing:

http://www.slate.com/id/2237677/entry/2237678/

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Guess it's okay to like Taylor Swift these days, too. And Jamey Johnson. And the Dixie Chicks, if they're still around. All of whom I basically like myself. Not sure why it bugs me, except that there are country artists this decade who I've liked more. (Probably just a kneejerk reflex, part of my chemical makeup from way way back.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe it relates to Frank's idea of rendering music lame through our own appreciation. If not, I'm sure he'll pop up here sooner or later to correct me.

I kind of know what Jody meant--probably to his ears, like mine, "Then" fits the mold of a thousand boring songs by Rascal Flatts or whoever, but it's just tons better. And I think it mostly has to do with the verse melody. The refrain could be anybody's anthem, but the verse tune just sounds so spontaneous, and the fact that it's minor in the context of a happy song adds to the song's depth. Sort of like "The Glow of Love" by Change. In fact, the piano riffs start with the same three notes. Hmmm.

(I don't like "Summer Nights" as much as you, partly because when that dude sings "Everybody's gettin' sexy," I have trouble thinking of anyone LESS sexy. Not that I should treat him like a piece of meat.) (But he'd be a really BIG piece of meat.)

dr. phil, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

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Yikes, I've got an affinity of four with Rosen ("Boom Boom Pow," American Saturday Night, Love Vs. Money, and Rated R). I hope somebody beats that.

I basically hate overview writing (though I guess my talking about women on or not on major labels is an overview-type assessment as well). But, like, yes, women are the stars that matter (except in country, where a few matter, but where the men tend to dominate), but, like... so what? What specifically are they doing? --To be fair to Rosen, he's trying to set up a subsequent back-and-forth, which I've not yet read. But Rosen seems to be using his affability to put the subject matter at arm's length.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Phew, I've got an affinity of five with Xhuxk: "Runaway," "Combination Pizza Hut And Taco Bell," Under The Radar Over The Top, Troubadour, American Saturday Night.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I dismissed "Then" at first but now like it. For me it pretty much comes down to that one part giving me goose bumps, the part where he sings "but I've said that before" with an upturn in his voice and kind of lets it hang in the air before singing the chorus again. It's about the piano probably but it has to be something more. It isn't that the sentiment or the form of the song is unique, so it's that something else... The way that part builds with feeling, I guess. Still, I didn't put the song in my top 10, and did put "Welcome to the Future" (on both the Nashville Scene one and the Village Voice one, I think). Part of me wanted to switch them out but I could argue for "WTTF" more logically, not just with goosebumps. That's the trap I fell into I suppose.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I listened to Paisley's CD extra loads over the holiday to see if I'd over reacted
to his phony glory of consumer society shtick. He's one of a few to be a public fool, singint tunes which sound like comical super hackwork in the context of 2009.

He was so busy enjoying his consumer electronics boons and custom made Vox repro amps, he
had to let us all know that it he thought it might have been like if the shining city on the hill from the Reagan years came true for him, or something like that. And that he liked water.

"Welcome to the Future" PRO:
the drums kicking in
good guitar fills and solo
soaring chorus
nice progression from mundanity to profundity
gang shouted "Hey"s
first half of verse 3 is really affecting
song makes my wife dance like she's in the '80s, apparently

Damned by faint praise. The best part is its in a major key, is anthemic and copies from Tom Petty and Mike Campbell.

"Welcome to the Future" CON:
the tune sounds a little constructed and forced
"Wake up Martin Luther"
second half of third verse is awkward

I think it's kind of like the quote from the semi-actor Criswell who was in Plan 9 From Outer
Space. The one that simpletons now think is profound.

"We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the
future."

Cue the video parts with the Jap dancing robot and the guys maimed in the Iraq war running
stiffly along on their new titanium alloy spring feet.

Boy, Brad can watch TV on his gadget. And the bad Japanese-land mimic band can sing his songs and wear cowboy hats through the miracle of global communication and the shipping of all clothing manufacturing to China.

If you still have your cellphone billed to your credit card, you can watch TV on it too while your buying your shit with foodstamps at the supermarket.

He needs a self esteem brushback. Shame journalism won't give it to him.

Gorge, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I take those first two verses of "Welcome to the Future" to be kind of a ruse, actually, to get to the main point of the third verse. The first time I heard it, when listening to the album upon its release, I didn't know anything about the song or album except it being Paisley's new one. Without knowing he was leading up to an Obama punchline, so to speak, the first couple verses almost seemed sarcastic on first listen, in his usual way. Or at least the 'glory glory hallelujah' part does. I think it's smart songwriting for that reason, the way the third verse adds new implications to that phrase, and more meaning to the song as a whole.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

The 2009 Nashville Scene Poll results:

http://www.nashvillescene.com/2010-01-07/news/country-music-critics-poll-the-results/

jetfan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Probably good that they kicked me out of the poll, as I heard ZERO PERCENT of the albums listed. Some of the songs though. I probably would have voted for Los Tigres del Norte and Melinda Doolittle anyway.

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

In the comments, Chris Neal sez:

Last year, too much loudness (that is, an excess of volume and dynamic-range compression in the mix and/or mastering) did unforgivable damage to what should have been my favorite rock album of the year, Metallica's Death Magnetic. This year it did the same for what should have been my favorite country album of the year, Miranda Lambert's Revolution. Here is an album filled with wonderful songs and terrific performances, neither of which I can stand to listen to because the sound has been so distorted by loudness and flattened by compression that it breaks my heart.

I haven't heard Revolution, but I definitely noticed this about Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. I wanted to listen to it, but after awhile I noticed my ears hurt. So then I'd turn it down, but I couldn't hear it properly. (Still voted for it.) Same deal with Revolution?

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, erasingclouds, I heard WTTF the same way. Only the third verse doesn't accomplish its job as effortlessly as I'd like.

Gorge, what's your opinion of "Then"?

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The big news was that Brad Paisley and Miranda Lambert, famous enough to follow the Garth Brooks Model, followed the Willie Nelson Model instead. They bet their reputations on edgier songwriting and edgier performances, trying to fix something that wasn't even broken. They gambled and won. -Geoff Himes

Did I miss something this year--did Brad and Miranda release weird reggae albums like Willie once did? Not clear how much "edgier" their latest releases were, although I guess Paisley's Obama-friendly lyrics must count as edgy in a Nashville world.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the pandering went over the top on Paisley's album. The first thing that brought me to it was the vid for "Welcome to the Future" which has no perceptible undercurrents in it at all. He made it, right? So he must have had something to do with its role as a vehicle for consumer electronics and the corny phonus-balonus of amputees running along on their alloy springs and the kid in the wheelchair aspiring to be an explorer. An explorer of what? Which business establishments have proper handicapped access?

I liked the two albums before it -- didn't get the instro one. "Future" instrumentally sounds great but so did a bunch of things on 5th Gear without being so annoying. He definitely has the cater to the
myths of the country in 'im. He's called himself an observational humorist but he's not Mark Twain.

I think he actually believes 99 percent of the crap in the song. If there's any subtlety to it, I'm missing it. Perhaps because it really rubbed me the wrong way from the very start.

Gorge, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess I wouldn't say he doesn't BELIEVE the crap in his song, but that he's also mocking himself for being such a happy consumer. But yeah, the title song definitely establishes the character of Brad the Happy Consumer.

In re Garth Brooks not being edgy, the first song I think of whenever people discuss Brad's politix in Nashville is Garth's "We Shall Be Free."

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

(I don't know whether that song's "edgy" or not--just that Garth and Brad seem to have the same amount of edge.)

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I predict this will be Himes's most controversial statement:

Swift is already further along than Parton or Cash were at the same age and seems to possess many of the same qualities. But she's at a crucial transition period where the guidance of a Porter Wagoner, a Johnny Cash or the like could make all the difference. She needs to tap into the subsoil of country-music history or else she will easily be toppled by the changing winds and trends of pop. And that would be a shame.

This seems excessive and unfounded. Why can't she just keep putting out Taylor Swift albums? Taylor Swift Turns 20. Taylor Swift Has Kids. The possibilities are endless. I would enjoy seeing nominations for who her Porter Wagoner should be, though. Jamey Johnson?

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

That seems a case of 'what she needs to do' is whatever matches his own personal taste. She better watch out, or else those mysterious 'changing winds' will get her.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe Himes just means that country stars are guaranteed longer, more secure careers than pop stars (as in Caramanica's essay a few days ago)? Though that in itself is probably a debatable claim, and I have a feeling I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by even suggesting it.

Lots to disagree with in that Scene section obviously. I'll have to wrap my head around it more before I even start (assuming I ever do.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm on Himes' e-mail list and received his list of his 100 fave 2009 albums with his little blurbs on them, plus I've been reading his writing in DC and Baltimore publications and New Orleans' Offbeat magazine for a long while. I think he writes well but his taste has always been more 'roots' than pop. He has always been a musical traditionalist (albeit allowing a certain degree of envelope pushing) so his advice to Taylor Swift is not surprising, and I guess his thinking that Brad is "edgy" is not surprising either (I do not think Himes was referring to the consumerism lyrics that bug Gorge but to the vaguely political ones).

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not going to debate the merits of Taylor Swift; she's a songwriter and a figure and a successful one. And I usually don't exactly agree with Himes on much. He sends out a list of his 100 best records of the year and I generally find his jazz selections all right and the other stuff, ecch. (Don't get Buddy and Julie Miller or Justin T. Earle [wish he would change his name to that as it evokes a cornier era in country I'd like to see come back, fat chance of that] or Daddy Earle's snooze-fest a la Townes V.Z.) And I think that Himes has probably, like many another critic (I had a very very amusing meeting with one of 'em this summer; she kept telling me she was really a writer but had gone over to the "other side of the fence" but had come back; meanwhile, she dropped every possible name she could, including those of the Artists she's been involved with career-wise), perhaps bought into the whole shebang here a little too much. Maybe. What Himes thinks is that there's a continuum of "country music" and that Taylor Swift has something to do with that. I mean who does he think she is, Melba Montgomery or Connie Smith?? She's a songwriter who lives in Nashville because that's where songwriters live. And I for one think that country music is more or less an idiom; anyone can live in Nashville and write songs, right? So the idea that she's gonna dip into the George Jones catalog or even be as "country" as Reba, who I've never been able to stomach (do like the sitcom in a way), seems to me just way beside the point of who she is. One thing that Nashville is very good at is paying lip service to "country" (as a marketing tool, as a reference point, but certainly not as an idiom), and Taylor Swift benefits from this. I said at the beginning I wasn't gonna debate the merits of Swift and I won't, but I simply find it incredible that anyone thinks she has anything to do with country music--as an idiom, may I repeat. Lots of songs "tell stories," I mean fuck, back in the olden days did anyone think Gordon Lightfoot had that much to do with "country music"? Would anyone disagree that he has a lot more to do with it that Swift on almost any level you could choose? (Saw a great SCTV thing from '81 in which they were hawking a collection of Lightfoot "singing every song ever written.") All this has happened before in a different guise, cf. Olivia Newton-John and the flap over that, only back then Nashville was far more a hick town and there was actual outrage that Newton-John's shit was labeled and marketed "country." And I'll point out that this year I interviewed Norbert Putnam, who was the dude who made Joan Baez a pop star with her terrible version of "Night They Drove Old Dixie" and who recorded "Please Come Back to Boston" or whatever that is, Dave Loggins, not to mention Eric Anderson or the dreaded Dan Fogelberg. (But Norbert did a lot of other good stuff, too; and his importance is probably not the in the records he made but in the technical side of it all, the studiocraft which led to the big crossover. This was almost 40 fucking years ago, and no one advised Dan Fogelberg to study up on Lefty Frizzell or Diana Trask albums.) So maybe the whole thing comes down to a lack of historical awareness; what's relevant about Swift is that she came up as a songwriter but not as a musician who, like, went on the road or had to play some honky-tonk in Oklahoma to make it; probably even Garth Brooks had to endure some of those gigs. Frank says she can do stuff with her voice in the studio and I guess that's true. More power to her.

Paisley has become the Beck of country, everyone likes him and thinks he "transcends" the genre. I like him fine. Has he dipped into the past of country? I dunno. I hear him as a kind of white Johnny Guitar Watson or one of those guys, a guitarist-singer. This summer, Caroline and I saw Robben Ford play Nashville. Ford is a super-guitarist and does this kinda dull but not bad blues thing these days, it's competent, depends on whether you like blues. Well, he's playing away, all those fluent jazzy things, just great. And brings out some country guests: Paisley first, with his cap turned backwards. They jam. Paisley sorta keeps up, but compared to Ford it's Blues 101 licks, hardly sophisticated in this context. He hadn't been studying them chords and stuff. But cool, whatever, I like Brad and he can certainly play. Then Vince Gill comes out, looking as though he had come from the golf course, very well-fed. He can play, but he plugs in and it's even more Blues 101, kinda stiff. So we're in the old Belcourt in Nashville and lo and behold, there are actual black people in the audience! Like the Apollo! And they start heckling Gill: "Hey man, you can't play! Let's see you cut it up there! Let's see if the man can play!" and so forth. Very familiar from my Memphis days when there were real audiences and not, you know, a bunch of Nashville, er, enthusiasts...so Gill soldiers on, actually he can't really play what the demands of Ford's jazz vocab, not at all. Kinda like page 2 of the B.B. King Book of Licks for tenth graders in Alabama. So Gill has enough and actually told the folks to "fuck off!"; they just laughed and so did I, but of course, the audience was appalled. I guess they hadn't even read about Kansas City or Uptown Charlie Parker or Coleman Hawkins and Lester Young, cuttin' heads in the old days. See, it's all about the idiom. Good to see all you guys, I promise to not be a stranger any more, sincerely, Edd Hurt.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure where to place this, or if anyone read it, but here's the decade in country according to Stylus.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, Edd, great to see you posting. Yeah, and don't be a stranger.

And you too, Alfred. Haven't perused the Stylus decade section yet because I was so pissed that Dave Moore wasn't invited to contribute, though I realize that that's a dumb attitude on my part. It's not the fault of the writers, just of whoever chose and botched the invitees list. In any event, I'll definitely give that country thing by Inskeep and Love a look. And I'll give Edd's idiom thing some thought.

Brief shot about Geoff's writeup: I'm positive I could learn a lot from a list of 100 records provided by Taylor Swift. So could Geoff Himes, I bet, and Jamey Johnson. Geoff is making Jamey seem narrow by suggesting that Jamey couldn't learn from someone else's list.

And, by the way, as someone who was automatically given my First Wednesday Of The Month Senior Discount at Albertson's this week without the cashier even asking if I was eligible, I'll point out that Taylor Swift does have a country vet who's nearly as old as I am as a collaborator and one might presume as something of a mentor as well, though I don't know anything about how they work.

Also, Taylor made absolutely zero effort to pander to the country audience's need for reassurance, and that audience bought her records anyway. I wish Adkins and Atkins et al. would follow her example. (Not that such pandering can't result in great art - my favorite country album of the decade, Montgomery Gentry's Carrying On, is swamped in such attempts at reassurance - but the pandering has become so accepted and rote, and vague and boring. Seems to hurt Atkins in particular as a lyricist.)(Maybe the problem is that I'm pissed at myself for loving that Alabama fight song by Trace Adkins.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I posted my ballot on last year's thread, but here are my comments:

Geoff - You'll notice that I stuck Taylor Swift up top of my ballot for the "Platinum Edition" of Fearless, and I can rationalize this because three of the six new tracks are significantly great - even if one of those three has been floating around the Web for a couple of years and another is an alternate version of a song that's already on the album. But honestly, I'm putting the album on my list because I missed the boat on it last year, ranked it number three but hadn't truly digested it yet, how good it was or what it was doing. But also I want to argue against your zero-sum dichotomy that implies that the "suburban" Taylors aren't leaving room for the "small town" Jameys. I don't see this happening - if "High Cost Of Living" doesn't get radio play, that's hardly because "You Belong With Me" does - but also I don't accept your suburban-rural mapping of this. My mapping would be more like: What's going on is that country is absorbing both male folkie romanticism and feminine folkie romanticism, but the latter is harder for you to swallow.

There's a line that runs from Dylan to Springsteen to Mellencamp to a whole shitload of country, and that's pretty well accepted, or anyway I don't see vast ire at the Eric Church types who rock like mothers even while pledging allegiance to the Hag, or at Brooks & Dunn for wallowing in Stones and Skynyrd. And folk-rock that goes Dylan-James Taylor-Garth is pretty much accepted too. But there's a line that goes from Dylan and Joan Baez to Judy Collins to Joni Mitchell to Stevie Nicks to Tori Amos to Alanis Morissette, a feminine line that becomes more and more singer-songwriter and that comes from a girly-girlie world of English-class poetry and teen diary self-expression; and it jumped to teenpop in the '00s via Nelly Furtado and Michelle Branch and Pink and a slew of others, but it also has worked its way into country, in Deana Carter and Natalie Maines and SheDaisy, and then Michelle Branch and Jewel moved it explicitly into country from teenpop and pop respectively. (Not that anyone I mention comes from a single line of music. Everyone's a mongrel here.)

So, here's Taylor Swift, who draws on the female singer-songwriter insistence that the story of her music be very much her story, her sensibility, her voice finding itself and finding its way, while her character develops by way of romantic relationships recounted in song. What I'm seeing is that bohemian romanticism has long since rolled into country in male rambler garb (and male drug fuckup garb), but meanwhile it's also rolling into country by way of female self-expression, the rambling being frankly psychological and emotional rather than taking place only in bars and motels or wearing a cowboy hat in honor of a lost prairie, but it's still roaming the range anyway, even if it's shepherding thoughts rather than herding cattle.

Taylor is pretty much her own genre at this point, and she's the greatest singer within my earshot, using the wavers and quavers of her voice for whipsaw effect as much as for vulnerability. From the YouTube evidence it's something of a crap shoot whether she'll be on pitch live, and award shows cause her to stumble, so maybe Taylor doesn't happen without the modern recording studio. So hurrah for the modern recording studio.

Taylor's sensibility isn't necessarily mine; take the excellently written line, "Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind; we both cried." Well, when I was fifteen there were U.S. soldiers who really gave everything they had, for a country that was changing its mind, and I was helping the country change its mind by way of antiwar activities. (And I hear that some Vietnamese died too.) Taylor's actual fifteen surely contained thoughts about wars and global warming etc., such thoughts not making it into her songs, this absence maybe being timidity or may just indicate what works for her as a songwriter. But within her chosen topics she never cheats. E.g., compare to Brad Paisley's pretty good "Anything Like Me," which is full of standard events, boy climbing tree that's too tall, and so on, an implied, "You know what this is like, you know what childhood is like, you know what we're like." Well, Taylor doesn't assume that you know what it's like, so she's going to tell you, whether it's a day in school or a day with her dad. And if the country genre does accept her - which it sure seems to, and she's now its biggest seller - that means she's part of a process where country rewrites what life is like, doesn't take its sharing of experience for granted.

* * *

Quick thoughts going back to what you wrote in your essay two years ago; I don't accept that my liking Miranda Lambert is a sign of my willingness to challenge my own assumptions or to hear something I don't already know. There's a line of music that goes from Dylan and the Stones and the Yardbirds to the Velvet Underground to the Stooges to the Dolls to the Sex Pistols, and that's the music I lived and breathed for years. So my voting for Miranda Lambert is my chance to vote for the home team, or at least for the closest that Nashville will come to giving me one. So Miranda's great expressive hyperbolized rage and vengeance don't challenge me in the least. Whereas what does challenge me is Carrie Underwood's "Jesus Take The Wheel." I identified hard with the narrator in that one, the sense that I don't have control over my own spinouts, the song challenging me to reach outside myself for help and direction and getting my shit together. That the word "Jesus" doesn't contain an answer for atheist me doesn't change my situation or my need in the slightest.

Also, for what it's worth, the anger in Taylor songs such as "Cold As You" and "You're Not Sorry" and "Forever & Always" gutslugs me even harder than the anger in Miranda's Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Revolution. "It rains when you're here and it rains when you're gone." What a fierce, vulnerable line!

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, welcome back, Edd!! Great to see you on here. This thread is cooking already -- lots of different people posting. Bodes well, even if I'm going through a period now where I'm not sure how much I care about current current music (and/or country radio) anymore. We'll see.

Predictably, I was going to say I can't imagine anymore why anybody would claim that Taylor Swift isn't country; when she gets played all the time country radio, I don't have to make the decision with my own ears. Her genre's been decided for me, and Olivia Newton-John was country, by defintion, in the '70s, too, for exactly the same reason. Also, who the heck cares about musicians paying dues on a live stage, anyway? I don't even go see shows anymore, and I'm in fucking Austin. But I know that's not Edd's point, with his "idiom" stipulation (which I have to ponder more too; honestly not really sure what that means.) And I really don't know whether I'd consider Taylor country if she didn't come up through country radio, or if I will if country radio stops playing her. (Well, I probably will, when it comes to country music polls which is the only place it matters much anyway, since I usually tend to give genres the broadest definitions possible.) That said, I kind of like the idea of country music being some secret society with a secret handshake and all (especially because I just saw Brad Paisley listed in a NY Times editorial this morning among celebrities who have been Freemasons. Did all those older New Kung Pao Buckaroos teach him the oath? Speaking of paying dues.)

Oddly, I was actually listening to Gordon Lightfoot's Complete Greatest Hits (Rhino, 2002) yesterday morning, before I read Edd's post, wondering where he might fit into Frank's story of confessional songwriters evolving through the post-Dylan/Joni ages. Which means I somehow made the Taylor connection, inadvertently, in my head. If he put out a great album this year, I can't imagine I wouldn't consider it eligible for a Nashville Scene ballot. But deep down, I guess I'd still consider him more a "folk" than country guy (even though I always thought Sawyer Brown's singer Mark Miller sort of sounded like him, vocally, at least on the ballads.) (Hey, there's another '90s country band with enough decent hits for a best-of CD.)

The one comment I should have made about what-counts-as-country in my Scene ballot was why I decided the Southern /Chitlin Circuit soul singles I liked last year -- Larry Shannon Hargrove “I Need A Bailout”, Mel Waiters “Everything Is Going Up (But My Paycheck)," Floyd Taylor “Southern Soul Party” -- weren't eligible for my country list. Also "Fallin' Faster" by Hope Partlow's band, the Love Willows. Since it's stuff I actually left out, it's a more interesting question for me, somehow, since it would've explored my own line of thinking. (Though honestly, I probably just left them out since there were too many undenibaly country singles I thought were good enough to list.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

who the heck cares about musicians paying dues on a live stage, anyway?

Well, I do, at least indirectly, because often as not that kind of seasoning helps makes the playing on their albums more compelling -- one reason I infinitely prefer, say, '70s hard rock to '00s indie rock where bands together for mere weeks get famous just from a webpage. (Also, I have to say, that story about Vince Gill is totally hilarious.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Just saw this Ricky Skaggs q and a interview at the Washington City Paper blog:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2010/01/08/the-arts-desk-interview-ricky-skaggs/
Here's an excerpt:

Can country music outlast the genre mixing and mashing that “the kids” insist upon today? Or will it be absorbed into something else?

If (country) stays on the American Idol scene where its videos want to look like VH1 and the sound wants to be so far away from country and be more pop and be more absorbed by the pop listener where someone buys a John Mayer CD and a hip-hop CD and a Taylor Swift CD—there’s hardly any differentiation anymore. It’s like country music doesn’t have a sound. When “Sweet Home Alabama” sounds country…[Skaggs, contemplating a world in which Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" sets the standard for country, seems to shudder.]

["Sweet Home Alabama"] sounds like everything that’s coming out of Nashville. We’ve really gone in a different direction. But that’s one of the things that sparked me to go back and discover that deep well of water that’s still there. There’s still a pure taste in this old music. There’s things to discover. There’s new music there…

I don’t care if it’s 2010. You can go there and be back in the ’30s and ’40s and thank God that we’ve got recordings from back then. Raccoon and I has this discussion here not long ago. [The author isn't sure whether "Raccoon" is Skaggs brother, bandmate, attorney, doctor, or dentist, and, though he could probably find out with a quick Google Search, prefers the presence of an unidentified man (or woman!) named "Raccoon" in this interview.] There’s so much. Why would we wanna fight and fuss over this new music that’s being played these days when we can go back and glean from all these great old players?

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post. Wow, Chuck, I would not expect you to say that. But what about jam bands? I assume they practice a ton and play out alot and does that make their albums sound compelling?

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

On American Saturday Night, he defies his own formula more than ever—and without guests to
lean on.

<sarcasm>Brad Paisley as 'defiant' on his album -- now there's an assessment brooking no room for doubt.
Yeah, he's certainly self-defiant from top to bottom.</sarcasm>

Gorge, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah, curmudgeon, I didn't mean to imply that live dues-paying makes everybody more interesting on record. Obviously there are thousands of exceptions where it does just the opposite. Which was kinda my point.

And see, one thing I don't get about Taylor Swift "not sounding country," meaning "she doesn't sound like old country music" is, goddamit, NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ELSE. George Strait, who can be really good sometimes, doesn't sound like Merle Haggard, and his Western Swing stuff doesn't sound like Bob Wills. (It's nowhere near funky or jazzy enough, for one thing.) Those Darlins, who I really want to like, don't half match the energy of the '80s cowpunk they're aping or the '20s/'30s White Country blues they're aping. Miranda Lambert and Brad Paisley have rock music in their sounds that country wouldn't have touched just a couple decades ago. And right, I can't think of many old country albums that are as deadassed as what I've heard from either Dad or Son Earle lately. This is neither good nor bad. Everything changes. But if Taylor isn't country, I'd really love to know who is.

I dunno, maybe Ricky Skaggs genuinely is a purist now. He's been a student of the stuff long enough that maybe he really can convincingly replicate the sound of the '30s and '40s. But I'm skeptical. And truth is, his best albums from the '80s (Highways And Heartaches, for instance) had great studio pop hooks of their own. Hell, he even put Ed Koch and subway breakdancers in a video once, and I loved it. Hypocrite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0crpP7l8VJw

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Or I dunno, undoubtedly there are artists whose sounds maintain more stylistic reference points to country of distant previous decades than Taylor's sound does, even if the ultimate result doesn't sound exactly like old country in their cases. I suppose that's people's point. It's just that, to me, acting like pop crossover is some new thing in hit country music, when really it's been going on longer than the almost half-century I've been alive, is really willful. (But I'm obviously not saying anything here that I haven't said a zillion time before.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Oddly, I was actually listening to Gordon Lightfoot's Complete Greatest Hits (Rhino, 2002) yesterday morning, before I read Edd's post, wondering where he might fit into Frank's story of confessional songwriters evolving through the post-Dylan/Joni ages.

He probably fits in around '68 or '69; '67 or '68 is when my brother gets Judy Collins' Wildflowers and then we go backwards and forward from there, to Judy Collins' Fifth Album, In My Life, and Who Knows Where The Time Goes?, which for me and a lot of music listeners is the first we hear songs written by Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell (though Noel Harrison has a minor hit with Cohen's Suzanne before I heard Collins' version). Who Knows Where The Time Goes is the first I hear a song written by Sandy Denny. Collins' version of "Mr. Tambourine Man" may be the first time I hear that song as well, since I hadn't been listening to top 40 radio in '65. I have no idea why or how - I don't think it was through my brother, who'd now gone off to college - I hear of Gordon Lightfoot and buy his second or third album, the one with "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" on it. Some of that album feels beautiful and moving, at least for several months - I remember getting into a fight with my parents, and afterwards stomping off to my bedroom and putting my head between the speakers and listening to the album and thinking, "Well, here, this guy is doing something beautiful," which contrasts with whatever I feel my parents have just done to me. But eventually I decide that Lightfoot is simply too weak and soft-headed (though that might mean he ought to be now ripe for re-evaluation).

Oddly, the only thing I now remember from the record is "Canadian Railroad Trilogy," which I recall as being more rousing than pretty. The songs that come to mind from the guy don't strike me as confessional (and I'm sure I wasn't using the word "confessional" then in regard to music). But then, the only ones I remember other than "Trilogy" are "That's What You Get For Loving Me," which is a young-man-as-charming-rake genre exercise, and pretty funny, "Black Day In July," about the Detroit riots ("It wasn't just the temperature/And it wasn't just the season"), was dramatic and really good, I thought, and then "Sundown," whenever that hit, which again isn't him opening his heart, particularly; when I think about it "Sundown" might be the character in "That's What You Get For Loving Me" but addressed in the second-person by a rival. Doesn't it go "Sundown you better beware/If I find you creepin' 'round my back stair"? (I feel it would be cheating for me to Google or Wiki for this info, since I'm trying to say what my memory is telling me.) In any event, I didn't keep up with Lightfoot but my impression is that he evolved from "folkie" to "folkie for smoochers" or something, and I imagine him playing supper clubs with rustic fireplaces, though I'm sure he actually played regular old folk clubs.

In the post-Garth world there's no reason to assume that a latter-day Lightfoot might not cross to country, if he had decent enough songs, but I think the reason country radio is so comfortable with Taylor is that she feels like the heartland in a way that folkies don't, even if her chords and riffs don't flaunt antiquity. As for those chords and riffs, they actually don't scream Sugar Pop* in the way that, say, Lady GaGa and Britney Spears songs do, and Taylor doesn't come across as crossover diva in the way that LeAnn Rimes and Faith Hill sometimes do; I think the country listener is pretty used to women singers with one foot in adult contemporary, and vice versa; I'd say AC's been a part of the language of country radio for the last couple of decades, though you guys know more about those previous decades than I do.

*Well, "You Belong With Me" does, somewhat, and more power to it.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

my impression is that he evolved from "folkie" to "folkie for smoochers"

This might be true, especially if you're trying to smooch widows of guys who died in Edmund Fitzgerald. (Actually, Gordon may well have smoochier material later in career; I've just never heard it. "Sundown" is clearly about smooching a wayward prostitute, however, and "Go-Go Round" about smooching a go-go dancer. "If I Could Read Your Mind" maybe about smooching a ghost from the wishing well in a castle dark or a fortress strong with chains upon your feet; "Early Morning Rain" about the memory of smooching fast women and drinking liquor the night before but now you're smooching wet grass out on runway number nine. Why the hell is here, anyway? I've never figured that out. He's only got a dollar, and he knows you can't jump a plane like freight train.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Meant "If You Could Ready My Mind," obviously. (And "died on the Edmund Fitzgerald." You know, on that big lake they called Gitchie Goomie. Doubt any better geography lesson about the Great Lakes has ever hit the pop chart. Still waiting for somebody to do a doom-metal version.)

I never even noticed the words to "Go Go Round" before yesterday, fwiw.

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

And come to think of it, why have I always "clearly" thought the hard lovin' woman in "Sundown" is a prostitute, anyway? (Just because she's lying back in her satin dress in a room where you do what ya don't confess? Or because she looks like a queen from a sailor's dream?? Not nearly enough to go on!)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Neat trick, for a confessional singer-songwriter: He does what you don't confess, then he indirectly confesses it to us anyway!

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost (Yeah, come to think of it I don't remember the lyrics to "Sundown" at all, other than that one line, so what I said about it might have been pretty stupid.)

These days country tends to define itself sonically more by instrumentation and accent than by notes and chord progressions; at least that's how I hear it. A difference between Taylor Swift and Fearless is that on the latter Taylor decided to forgo the twang and the blatant mandolins and fiddles (though they appear; as do violins), probably said, "Fuck it, I'll sing in my own voice."

On the other hand, I do think that the melody and chords to "Our Song" and the chorus to "Teardrops On My Guitar" sound more country - in a way that I can't put my finger on - than anything on Fearless, but those more typically country notes make those two songs worse than they'd be without them. (I suspect that Xhuxk'll disagree. Isn't "Our Song" one of your favorite Taylor songs?) But as I've been saying, what I think gets her across to country fans - beyond the fact that she's really good - is that people in the mainstream of country listening* are willing to attune themselves to her sensibility, and therefore even willing to let her take them to new places.

*I'm using that awkward phrase to differentiate them from someone like me, who listens to mainstream country radio and is a fan of the music but isn't in the mainstream of such listeners; "primary audience" might be another term. But "mainstream of such listeners/primary audience" doesn't denote a single type, either; just doesn't include me. (Of course, she's crossing big to noncountry fans as well.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Meant "If You Could Ready My Mind," obviously

Uh, obviously not. (At least the "Ready" part.)

why the hell is here, anyway?

why the hell IS HE THERE, anyway? Jeez...

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Simon Frith, contrasting Celine Dion to Barbra Streisand:

Dion is, by contrast, a populist. Her voice is as rich in timbre as Streisand's and as flexible, but her approach to balladry draws on different traditions, on soul and country music. From soul she takes a method of direct expression, sound as physical feeling; from country she takes the sense of the everyday, cutting emotions down to size.

This isn't about "idiom," the musical language, so much as about the result, how one uses one's language. I don't think genres are idioms, at least not at the expense of sensibility and results - not just the "vocabulary" you employ, but also what do with it, and people with different vocabularies can find themselves doing similar things. (Not that a genre can be limited to a set of results either.)

I wouldn't say that Taylor cuts emotions down to size, but then I wouldn't necessarily have associated "everyday" and "down to size" anyway. Some people go from drama to drama every day. What Taylor does is to show big emotions arising within the details of everyday life.

In any event, I started off thinking of Taylor as Ashlee South, so it's not my particular issue whether Taylor is or isn't country - though it sure makes country richer and better if she is. But I wonder how much music of the last fifty years or so that has been created by people in or near country is considered "not country" for being too pop, but it isn't that the sound came from somewhere else, The Land Of Pop, but rather it came from these people, who helped create modern country and therefore modern pop. (Again, someone else will have to give this argument flesh, since I don't know the music's past well enough.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

helped create modern country and therefore modern pop

Well, obviously didn't help create all of modern pop, just pieces of it.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a link to Geoffrey Himes' 100 Best Albums of 2009

http://sonicboomers.com/albumreviews-0

jetfan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Drunk-dialing masterpiece "Need You Now" is number 5 on Billboard's ringtones chart!

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Meanwhile Skaggs tells the Washington Post he likes some bluegrass

Ask Ricky Skaggs about his favorite contemporary bluegrass acts and he'll rattle off a mighty list: Cherryholmes, The Infamous Stringdusters, Mountain Heart, Blue Highway, Sierra Hull and many others. But ask him about his favorite new country artists and... crickets. Skaggs thinks the genre has "lost its way."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/01/be_specific_bluegrass_great_ri.html

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Caramanica on banda singer Jenni Rivera (whose new album is said to be an all-mariachi affair on which she covers country singer Freddie Fender's "Before The Next Teardrop Falls"); some indie band called Wild Yaks (who Jon says play "country-rock", though since he said the same about indie band Girls I'm skeptical, and since he calls their country-rock lackadaisical I assume I'd hate anyway); and the Huntsville, Alabama hip-hop scence (featuring the hit "Fresh" by 6 Tre G, which I'm pretty sure I heard on the radio a week or two ago and actually liked):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/arts/music/10play.html

xhuxk, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Jenni Rivera has been covering Tex-Mex for years; still prefer her banda version of "I Will Survive" with its wailing clarinets though. She's awesome.

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Although in "Ala-Freakin-Bama" Trace Adkins says he grew up on Skynyrd, the song sounds at least as much (or a lot more) like he grew up on Gary Glitter or Joan Jett doing the Standells.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Kara DioGuardi about writing for country artists:

It's lyrically heavy in a way pop music isn't. It's got to be the perfect way to put it, but it's also got to have emotion [that resonates]. It's poetic in a way that pop music isn't. It really tests me. It makes me go back to songwriting 101. It's not just describing an emotion at face value, it's more like, "Here's the emotion -- how do I say it in a way that's interesting, so that someone gets what I'm trying to put across but it's also a twist on it?"

[For instance], "I Hope You Dance"? What an incredible metaphor. I hope you take that risk, I hope you take that chance, I hope you live life to the fullest. The way they paint that picture, when they get to the chorus you know exactly what they're talking about. I'm very drawn to the genre because I feel like I've become a better writer by going down there, and I'm always learning in the sessions.
--Billboard Interview

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

(I don't think it's such an incredible metaphor, myself.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

You're not terrified of dancing the way some of us are.

dr. phil, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Christgau wraps up 2009 (year in music):

http://bit.ly/6wSxv7

jetfan, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a new Voice piece I wrote on the music played at PBR (that's Professional Bull Riders) events.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm here to warn people off the new Jason Boesel album, which I'm currently streaming. He's drummed for Rilo Kiley and Conor Oberst, so it's ironic that Hustler's Son is completely devoid of memorable beats. Or memorable tunes, or singing voices, or words... CMT blog says he sounds like Chris Martin, which I don't hear at all. If anything, he's a less-distinctive and sometimes pitchy Jack Johnson. No way is he a hustler's son, unless he's overcompensating. You've been warned.

dr. phil, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Also ungood, though still listenable, is Freedy Johnston's Rain On the City. I'll say he counts here since he recorded it in Nashville and "It's Gonna Come Back To You" sounds country. (And the guitar sound on "Livin' Too Close to the Rio Grande" is what I imagine Uncle Tupelo sound like.) I'm sad it's not good because I really like some of his songs, but he seems to have smoothed a lot of the interest out of his voice. There's a point in the second song where he sings "tried and tried and tried and tried" etc., and if you can imagine Freedy Johnston singing that, you can maybe picture the unusual way he used to shape vowels--very round and throaty. Unfortunately, that's almost all gone. Some of the tunes are pleasant, but nothing compelling. So all you've got left is the least interesting part of his arsenal--the Evocative Lyrics. On about half the songs, he tries to amp up the evocativeness by playing slowly, bleh. I may listen again in case I missed anything. Got an alarmingly high score from Ann Powers.

dr. phil, Thursday, 14 January 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice article, unperson--real colorful.

dr. phil, Thursday, 14 January 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, Freedy Johnston sounds better today. It's still not setting the world on fire and I still miss his idiosyncrasies, but the tunes have grown on me. He's rhythmically competent enough that most of the songs hit some sort of relaxed groove, and his drummer knows how to work with his melodies. Best song probably "The Other Side of Love," which has a BeMyBaby beat. "Don't Fall In Love With a Lonely Girl" (the "tried and tried and..." song) is also good. Worst may be the bossa nova exercise "The Kind of Love We're In." Still borderline overall.

dr. phil, Thursday, 14 January 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

My five favorite country singles of 2010 so far; order very fluid:

1. Jason Aldean – The Truth
2. Trace Adkins – Ala Freakin Bama
3. Martina McBride – Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong
4. Brian Burns – Rattlesnake Tequila
5. Colt Ford featuring Jamey Johnson – Cold Beer

Weirdest 2010 country album I've heard so far: Shooter Jennings & Hierophant, Black Ribbons (due out March 2 on Rocket Science Ventures), which has very little or no country music on it whatsoever (well, maybe some very occasional very sublimated melodic twang in the guitars), but it does have a whole bunch of doomsday recitations by Stephen King as a radio announcer calling himself Will O' the Wisp, plus theoretically apocalyptic songs somewhere in the general vicinity of Alice In Chains/Queensryche/Soundgarden/'90s Metallica/Use Your Illusion/Buckcherry. Not sure yet if any of them are remotely worth a shit, but at least the concept seems boderline audacious on paper.

Still didn't get even halfway through the new Lady Antebellum album.

xhuxk, Friday, 15 January 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Another constipated and leaden new country-goes-off-the-grunge-deep-end record: 7DayBinge, Muzik Mafioso Jon Nicholson's eight-songer (last song 10+ minutes long, and most others in the four-to-five-minute range, so an album not an EP) with assorted Twisted Brown Trucker (a/k/a Kid Rock's backing band) and 3 Doors Down dorks. Maybe a little rustic blues rock in something like "I'm No Good" or "Cold Dark Grave," but mostly it sounds like bad Nickelback (or Creed, or whatever) to me.

xhuxk, Friday, 15 January 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Stephen King as a radio announcer calling himself Will O' the Wisp, plus theoretically apocalyptic songs

End of the world/apocalypse stuff is the new emo mall punk. One new movie a week now, sometimes more on apocalypse, particularly if you get extended cable.

Gorge, Friday, 15 January 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

In the meantime, we'll always have Haiti.

Gorge, Friday, 15 January 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

End of the world/apocalypse stuff is the new emo mall punk.

Yeah, the new Ray Wylie Hubbard LP (which has been getting lots of press around these parts, and which I actually like, though it sure does plod a lot) definitely fits in the 2010 doomsday country category, too. Probably also the Legendary Shack Shakers' Agridustrial, due out c. Income Tax Day, which I've been liking even more even though Hubbard's abum is probably more immediately comprehensible, vocal/song-wise. Shack Shakers have more energy, more humor, more hooks, probably more variety. Both have some tough blues riffs and touches of gospel.

xhuxk, Saturday, 16 January 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Good time for me to mention Shooter's excellent duet with Ike Reilly on the latter's Hard Luck Stories (digitally 2009, "real" disc 2010, has a shot at being my favorite album of two straight years). Song is a funny country blues song about the awesomeness of smalltown girls with daddy issues, until it takes a characteristic Ike turn into lyricism. Shooter ain't got no voice at all but he can sing all right.

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Saturday, 16 January 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Ray Wylie Hubbard album gets especially doomsday-dirgy toward its tail-end (titles "Every Day Is The Day Of The Dead"/"Opium"/"The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse" an obvious clue -- more or less metal, delta blues, and Celtic sluggish drones respectively.), and I actually like those, so far, more than most of the other trudging before them. Favorite track so far though is probably the relatively upbeat (well, at least midtempo) "Drunken Poet's Dream," which talks about mescaline, gasoline, naked women, and Judgement Day (and which I just realized was also the lead cut on the last Hayes Carll CD, where both Texans got co-writes). Also liking "Loose," which notably rhymes with Bruce, though I haven't decided yet if it's trying to sound like early or recent Bruce.

xhuxk, Saturday, 16 January 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, this thread was cooking. Where'd everybody go?

Anyway, finally made it through the new Lady Antebellum -- albeit in the background, while reading the morning papers. Not sure what it will take for me to determine whether there's another ballad anywhere near the level of "Need You Now", which I'm ashamed to say made me shrug in the first place itself. Ballads often aren't immediate impact for me. Right now I'd say the closer, "Ready To Love Again," has the best shot, but that's just a wild guess, and overall I'd say the boring-ballad ratio here is even higher than on, uh, the new Vampire Weekend album (which still has nothing nearly as great as "Need You Now" fwiw.) Second favorite song on Need You Now so far would be "Stars Tonight," an insistent two-chord pop-rocker about joining a rock band because rock people dress really cool. At least, that's what I think it's about. "Perfect Day" has a bit of bounce to it, too. But mostly the album's making me shrug (and I liked their first one, by the way. Liked Vampire Weekend's first one too, but liked Antebellum's more.)

Best country album I've heard in the past couple months, maybe in the past couple years, heck maybe ever almost, is a 20-song 1981 Warner Special Products vinyl mailaway compilation called Motels And Memories that I got for a $1 in San Marcos last month. All cheating songs, only a few I was familiar with before (John Anderson "She Just Started Liking Cheating Songs," John Conlee "Friday Night Blues," Gary Stewart "She's Acting Single [I'm Drinkin' Doubles]," Barbara Mandrell's "Married But Not To Each Other" which is basically an r&b song I swear, maybe Crystal Gayle "Talking In Your Sleep" which I really love), and a lot by artists I've barely ever listened to before, often to my shame (Conway Twitty, Stella Parton, Vern Gosdin, Jeanne Pruitt, Earl Thomas Conley, Carmoll Taylor, Bill Anderson, Margo Smith, Mel Street, etc.) Tails off slightly toward the very end, maybe, but still makes me wonder why, if cheating (and even more, being cheated on) was such a major obsession of country singers for so long, when and why did that change? Or did it? Only really great one I can think of in the past year would be "Even Now" by Caitlin & Will (cheating both ways), and that didn't hit big at all. Probably there's some I'm not thinking of. Anyway, did the moral majority's influence over country ensure at some point that songwriters would stop dealing with the topic? Or were the '70s really just one big Ice Storm key party? Or what? (Also been listening to Billie Jo Spears' 1975 Blanket On The Ground, another $1 find, which just strikes me as way more sexy than country nowadays, even though Paisley also sang about doing it outside in "Ticks" couple years back I guess. Getting the idea country lost something along the way, and maybe it's worth talking about here.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

And oh yeah, played the Mavericks' 1999 CD Super Collosal Smash Hits Of The '90s: The Best Of The Mavericks yesterday, and can I just say that, despite the frequent warm mariachi lilts and Raul Malo's equally warm and very smooth singing, those guys were kinda booooring. Lacking almost any memorable songs probably had something to do with it.

And remembered yet another '90s country star with a seemingly good best-of on my shelf, which might have had good '90s albums I've never heard backing it up: Pam Tillis (Greatest Hits, Arista 1997.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

The track listing on that Mavericks comp looks boring but they weren't quite that boring; "Pretend" off What a Crying Shame is a pretty memorable honky-tonk with Latin-flavored vocals as their hype promised (but often did not deliver; "Dance the Night Away" a nice exception); and their cover of "All That Heaven Will Allow" is excellent and better than the already great original. So all in all, a very minor band but you could make a better comp than the one you got.

Euler, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Played the new Easton Corbin (his debut) and Gary Allan albums. The Corbin was pleasant at best; nothing really jumped out at me. But I'm liking at least four songs on the Allan -- masochism metaphor "Get Off On The Pain" and "That Ain't Gonna Fly" for their toughness; "We Fly By Night" and mercy fuck/breakup sex number "Kiss Me When I'm Down" for the specificity of their lyrics. Like this line in the latter, listing stuff she left behind at his place when she dumped him: "A stack of mail/a tube of toothpaste/An empty Zeppelin III CD case."

xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post. Yea, I think there are some memorable Mavericks songs and would not dismiss the group. I never saw them live, but I saw Raul Malo solo and with a band live several times and recall some of the Mavericks songs working. Xhuck, he's got quite a voice as you acknowledge. For some fans that's enough (also noticed that women were especially charmed by him live).

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Regarding cheating songs, that's interesting that country has largely abandoned them (if that's true). They still dominate Southern (Chitlin Circuit) soul to the point that they are formulaic and predictable and I am sick of them. Actually I never liked that lyrical theme much to begin with.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Surely "White Liar" is a cheating song, and quite good. Not definite on what counts as a cheating song; is it only a cheating song when the protagonist cheats (which might disqualify great tracks about a lover's cheating like John Conlee's "She Can't Say That Anymore," since it seems to be through the guy's eyes, but is really about the gal)? In any event, Taylor Swift's "Should've Said No" is about not forgiving a cheater, and if you take account of the video, so is "White Horse." Doesn't Gretchen Wilson have a few? (Well, maybe I'm thinking of the one on the Barbara Mandrell tribute album, which would only confirm your point.) From a few years ago we've got Toby's excellent "Stays In Mexico" and Lee Ann Womack's excellent "There's More Where That Came From."

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, "Stays In Mexico" occurred to me, and most of those others make sense -- duh. Not sure why it seems like there's fewer now; maybe just because I don't have them all compiled in one place. (Most obvious one we haven't mentioned: Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats"! So yeah, cheated-on songs, as I suggested above, definitely count; "She Can't Say That Anymore" is even more blatant about that than "Friday Night Blues," which only implies Conlee's a cuckold but was included on that cheating song compilation regardless.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Of the songs I listed above, maybe most of them -- definitely "She Just Started Liking Cheating Songs and "She's Acting Single (I'm Drinkin' Doubles)" -- obviously revolve around the protagonist's spouse cheating.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Xhuxk you know how much I love Gary Allan. Can't wait to hear it...although no chance I'm gonna get a promo, I'm deader in Nashville than Charlie Robison or Robbie Fulks.

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Miranda Lambert & Brad Paisley place in Top 40 in 2009 Pazz & Jop.

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/

jetfan, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Lots of country in Jane Dark's top 25 singles of 2009:

http://janedark.com/2010/01/top_25_songs_of_2009_in_a_sing.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Sarah Buxton to open for Martina McBride and Trace Adkins on the Shine All Night tour, so possibly she won't disappear commercially in the way that Ashley Monroe disappeared.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I bumped into a few interesting websites and thought I'd share the links.

This guy comes to country from an alt perspective, but he's clearly got a lot of curiosity about Nashville proper. Impossible to search but fun to browse, with tons of album reviews from all eras of country.

http://www.slipcue.com/music/country/countryindex.html

This one's got to be the definitive David Allan Coe review page.

http://www.roctober.com/roctober/greatness/coe.html

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Just heard "Ala Freakin Bama"

Wow.

lukevalentine, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

They call it the crimson tide!

dr. phil, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey everyone. Just catching up with this thread. RE the Brad Paisley discussion above from a few weeks back, some of which mentioned me explicitly: it's possible to love Paisley (and Taylor and Miranda and Jamey Johnson and other critical darlings) *and* to love country that's not on the mainstream rock-crit radar. Not all Paisley lovers are by definition idiot arrivistes. The know-it-all territorialism around country that rears its head on ILX and elsewhere is embarrassing. There are certain critics who want own the genre, and reflexively lash out at anyone who dares venture on their "turf." Sorry--you have to share.

Also, for the record: I do love "Then," but it's not my favorite song on ASN. (That'd be "Anything Like Me." I'm soft like that.) "Then" is my favorite of the singles released so far.

That said: I love the country talk on ILX generally. I come here every once in a while just to read and always learn a lot. FWIW totally co-sign on "The Truth" and I think the new Gary Allan is a grower. All his records have taken a while to open up for me...

JodyR, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Jody, great to see you here. And point well taken on the guarding country-critic turf issue, though I'm fairly sure you overstate the extent to which it occurs here -- Only once, to my knowledge, by me, and I was pretty self-critical about it, to wit: "...increasingly 'the country singer it's okay for critics to like.' Honestly, that's a good reason to be skeptical...Not sure why it bugs me, except that there are country artists this decade who I've liked more. (Probably just a kneejerk reflex, part of my chemical makeup from way way back.)"

That said, I've been surprising myself this week by liking "Why Don't We Just Dance" by Josh Turner, who've I never particularly cared about before. Starting to understand, a little, why people might consider his deep voice so sexy. Guess I should listen to the rest of the album...

Also, Lady Antebellum's new album is growing on me. At least a little.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Also kind of like "Hillbilly Bone" by Blake Shelton feat. Trace Adkins, not so much for the song itself, which is neglible as far as I can tell, as for the playing behind the guys, which has to rank among the funkier and more convicing Skynyrd approximations to have hit country radio. (Which means Ricky Skaggs, who believes everything on country radio sounds like "Sweet Home Alabama", probably hates it. Meant to mention up above, though, that probably my favorite Ricky Skaggs song -- "Heartbroke," from 1982 -- has what's sure always sounded to me like a Motown bassline. So again, he hasn't always been the purist he presents himself as.) (Also like that song's high multisyllabic-word quotient. Only competition for favorite Skaggs song, "Highway 40 Blues," came from the same album. But it's not like I've really kept up with him.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Funny thing, Chuck: I reviewed the Lady Antebellum record and was pretty hard on them...and now I feel a little cruddy about it. They can write tunes, and the new album is definitely better than the last. I saw them play last year, though, and they really bored me silly. I'll take Little Big Town.

Regarding Josh Turner, I've always *loved* his voice, but I wish he had more good material -- more songs as good as "Your Man." Maybe the new album will be decent? What do you think of Chris Young? He's got that nice basso profundo too, and I've liked several of his songs a lot.

JodyR, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Only Chris Young song I've remotely cared about is "I'm Headed Your Way Jose'" from his debut (a more explicit pro-immigration song than "American Saturday Night" if you ask me), but then again, the debut is the only album I've ever played by him all the way through.

Just played Turner's new one all the way through, and he's definitely going for smoldering beefcake romance -- almost all love and lust songs, like the last Keith Urban album. Sounded okay, some of it maybe better than okay, but yeah -- not sure how great the material is. Only song that really jumped out as me like the single did is "Your Smile," which has some real warm Hoagy Carmichael Mint Julep jazz to it (maybe somewhere between what Alan Jackson was doing on Like Red On A Rose a couple years ago, and what Toby Keith was doing on White Tra$h With Money, kind of), complete with a nice sunny-afternoon whistling break. And "Lovin' You On My Mind" seems a decent quiet-storm makeout session. Last song, "Answer," is gratuitous put-your-faith-in-Jesus bullshit; when did the tradition of country albums ending with Jesus start, anyway? I've noticed that a few times, the last few years.

I almost definitely don't like the new Lady Antebellum album as much as the first one -- as I said above, too many ballads (see also: Vampire Weekend.) But then, I don't know anybody else who liked the first one as much as I did. And right, they're not near Little Big Town's level.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Turner album also has an at least fair-to-middling, maybe better, just-got-paid number, in "Friday Paycheck," complete with the take-this-job-and-shove-it references its title would lead you to expect. (I didn't like "Your Man" when it was a hit, btw, though I may have underrated it. I remember Anthony Easton being a big Turner supporter around here.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

One song from last year in that jazz vein you were talking about is Joe Nichols' "This Bed's Too Big", one of the few songs I really liked on his most recent album.

Interesting Chris Young and Josh Turner were mentioned together - That Turner song about dancing sort of reminds me of Young's song about getting dressed up mostly to get undressed, "Getting You Home", which is one of the only songs I really remember from his album last year, which overall was decent but didn't make that strong of an impression, though there is something I like about his singing.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I somewhat facetiously raised the idea of C.B. Radio songs on last year's Rolling Country thread, halfway figuring -- without much evidence -- that they might've been a breif fad in the late '70s:

Rolling Country 2009 Thread

Well, now I have evidence -- A compilation, released on Realistic Records and sold exclusively through Radio Shack according to its cover, called All Ears: 10 New And Original Songs With a CB Theme; found it for $2 (a real splurge for me!) at a vintage store in Houston last month. No copyright year anywhere on the cover, but I assume not long post-"Convoy" (which topped the pop chart in early 1976). Best cuts, like "Convoy," are basically talking blues: "The Handles Hall of Fame" by Johnny Hemphill (a list of creative nicknames that makes me think of the one in Kool Moe Dee's "Wild West West") and "Listenin' CB Blues" by Mac Wiseman (about trying to get used to all this newfangled technology.) "Everybody's Somebody (in Our CB World)" by Ed Bernet is the most American songpoem like in its cluelessness, but also the post proto-Internet in concept -- namely, the idea that, no matter how you look or whether you're a young girl or an old man, you can create a persona and make friends to talk to via the network. "L.J.'s CB Radio" by Oscar Rey is a cornball Hee Haw standup comedy routine; "The Night I Talked To The Lord" (...on my CB Radio) has the same concept as Carrie Underwood's "Jesus Take the Wheel," seeing how God saves the driver from a devastating crash. Other songs show an obvious Ray Stevens and David Seville influence, and a recurring theme is trying to make sense of all this brand new slang. Most of it is pretty bad, I guess, but I'm still really glad to own it.

xhuxk, Sunday, 31 January 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Also definitely not hating, if not quite know if I'm liking enough to keep yet, two new folk albums: Ike Reilly's Hard Luck Stories (verbosity in an early Dylan/early Springsteen style, definitely witty but so far too plain and detached to really grab me -- Cibula's a big fan) and Sparrow and the Workshop's In The Wild (Chicago girl whose voice triangulates somewhere between Janis Joplin, Kate Bush, and Polly Harvey leading an I guess post-post-post-Fairport Convention folk band from Glasgow -- 25-minute EP/mini-LP, the brevity of which helps, but I don't know whether any individual songs will sink in beyond the likably lush and dusky drone -- actually came out last July, as far as I can tell from the web, but only just showed up in my mail this week.)

If somebody can sell me on Sparrow And The Workshop, especially, please do so. I want to like them. Here's a link to their Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/sparrowandtheworkshop

xhuxk, Sunday, 31 January 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw man, no love for the Ike Reilly/Shooter Jennings duet?

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Laff riot FRONTPAGE story in the LA Times today by Geoff Boucher on ... wait for it ... how rock bands don't get in the charts or get to do the major label album thing as in days of yore. Focus on some marginal indie band playing the Troubador called The Afternoons.

Earth to Geoff Boucher and the LA Times, all d' rock bands like you talk about went to de Nashville where they're doin' just fine, K? THX. Jason Aldean sells more, rocks harder, than The Afternoons.

Who the fuck are The Afternoons, anyway?

"The Afternoons have also sought out public radio ... "

Brilliancy prize subhed: Rock is a hard place

Flea interviewed for bits of received wisdom. "It ain't like it used to be in the ol' days when I ... "

Gorge, Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

no love for the Ike Reilly/Shooter Jennings duet

"The War On The Terror And The Drugs"? It's okay, I guess. There's some camaraderie there, at least. Song doesn't really grab me, though; title has potential, but I don't hear them doing much with it. And actually, I think the album gets a little better after that one, when Reilly starts doing what seems more like shaddy dog stories and stops coming off like he's so impressed by his own cleverness, even though his apparent punchlines never really make me laugh. Think my favorite track on the album might be "Sheet Metal Moon" -- kind of like that image, for some reason. "Ballad Of Jack & Haley" kind of jumped out for me, too. And "Good Work" convinces me he's been watching Friday Night Lights. But with such a mediocre voice (no less mediocre than Shooter's), I really wish Reilly would get a solid band to help put these songs over. As is, like lots of other okay alt-country, the album just really feels to me like a promising songwriter's demo tape.

xhuxk, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"shaggy dog stories," I meant

xhuxk, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i know this is really old

but I just recently heard Jamey Johnson & I really liked what I heard

which surprised me because he co-wrote some of those goofy Trace Adkins singles I didn't dig

lukevalentine, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I've also had "White Liar" by Miranda Lambert stuck in my head for days for some reason

maybe 2010 will be the year I open my mind to Nashville stuff, who knows

lukevalentine, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

xp btw, Matt, there's a good chance I still prefer the Reilly duet to anything on Shooter's own new album. (And I know I'm getting to sound like a broken record with the alt-country folkies = demo-tape singers formulation. Should really retire that by now. But there have been guys from that world in the past few years who've at least halfway overcome their vocal limitations, and accentuated their songwriting skills, by hiring reasonably rocking musicians -- James McMurtry, Hayes Carrl, Chris Knight, now Ray Wylie Hubbard if he counts. All I'm saying is Ike Reilly's songs would probably reach me more if he did the same.)

xhuxk, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that CB comp have Merle Haggard/Leona Williams's "Bull and the Beaver"? I heard that on Rick Jackson's Country Hall of Fame a couple weeks ago, and it's my new favorite CB song, maybe after "Convoy." It took me a while to figure out what it was about, actually, but it's pretty sexy, given lines like:

Well it won't be hard to back it
Now babe I'm right behind you
Just put them air brakes on and let 'er slide

Rick Jackson could barely say anything about it, he was cracking up so much.

Also, still need to listen to Lady Antebellum's album more, but it struck me as OK, though the singles are growing on me. I determined last night that "Need You Now"'s sleekness reminds me of "Hysteria," and heard "American Honey" on the radio this morning and really liked the kick drum. It was a cool beat for a jangly folk type song.

dr. phil, Monday, 1 February 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah, Dr. Phil, that C&W CB song comp I got is 100% unknowns -- maybe Radio Shack had a contest and sorted through demo tapes, or something.

"That's How Country Boys Roll" by Billy Currington has some palpable gimme-three-steps Skynyrd boogie-woogie to its rhythm track too, I just remembered when hearing it on the car radio this morning (not unlike Shelton/Adkins' aforementioned "Hillbilly Bone" -- too bad both songs have lyrics so much dumber than Skynyrd ever would've done in the '70s.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Lady Antebellum at number one.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, weird -- Somebody just mentioned Shirley & Squirelly's "Hey Shirley (This Is Squirrely)," which leads off the Radio Shack CB comp, on the "Word(s) that only ever appeared in one (hit) song, ever" thread (answering a post about Merle Haggard, oddly enough.) I assumed they were unknowns, since I'd never heard of the song before, but turns out it went to #48 on the pop chart in 1976. (Joel Whitburn says "see also The Nutty Squirrels," so I did: Their "Uh Oh Part 2" and "Uh Oh Part 1" went to #14 and #45, respectively, in 1959. But Whitburn lists different people for them; perhaps only the squirrels were in common.)

Couple notes on Josh Turner's new album, which I like: (1) "Your Smile" is not as Hoagy Carmichael as I thought -- more old-timey country if anything -- but you sense Mint Juleps anyway, maybe because real old country and Dixie riverboat jazz were not so far apart (actually, some of Mac McAnally's '09 album had a sound like that too -- a couple songs reminded me of old Randy Newman before his voice was shot); (2) "Lovin' You On My Mind" has an even more blatant classic soul ballad sound than I thought; (3) closing Jesus number is not as noxious as I suggested -- I like the Muscle Shoals style church organ and gospel backup, and even the message (basically, I guess, that there's somebody you can lean on if things are going lousy for you) doesn't seem particularly offensive.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Shirley & Squirrely NOT as sexy as Williams & Haggard. (Unless squirrels are your thing.)

My review of Patty Griffin's future-Nashville-Scene-critics-poll-placing Downtown Church is up here. Buddy Miller produced, he and Raul Malo and Julie Miller and Emmylou Harris and a bunch of other people duet. It's mostly gospel covers; the most Country songs are Hank's "House of Gold" and Traditional's "Never Grow Old," which Johnny Cash probably covered. But, despite good singing and playing and arranging, the whole thing struck me as too tentative and tasteful. Best song is the cover of "If I Had My Way" (aka "Samson & Delilah"), which is groovy with a great, round lead guitar tone. New Griffin original keeper that'll probably pop up on a major label country album in the next couple years: "Coming Home to Me." But as good an idea as it was to sing "Virgen de Guadalupe" with Raul Malo, the song put me to sleep.

dr. phil, Thursday, 4 February 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

The know-it-all territorialism around country that rears its head on ILX and elsewhere is embarrassing.

Well, I guess Jody Rosen's gone, but I'd say the know-it-all territorialism around country gets challenged on ILX more than anywhere else in the world that I know of, so it's not like Jody's making a particularly strong point or telling us something we'd not have known if he hadn't said it, or saying anything about the territorialism; but he might have been referring to Edd's or George's takes on Paisley and Swift (if he was misreading George, since George's dislike has nothing to do with country territorialism) and not noticing everyone else's. (To be fair to Jody, maybe he did notice everyone else's and just didn't think he needed to mention it. He wasn't venturing an opinion as to whether or not the territorialism dominates ILX. Still, why is that what he chooses to remark on, given what's actually written in the Rolling Country threads.)

By the way, I have nothing in principle against territorialism, especially when it's thoughtful and makes an effort to put into words what's at stake and what's in danger of getting overridden or lost, which is exactly what Edd's does. Genres are shifting territories and associations, but that doesn't mean that we just ignore the territory and association. I'm as territorial as anybody alive, I'm just not static or conventional in my sense of territory, usually (at least I hope I'm not).

Frank Kogan, Friday, 5 February 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, my bad; I just checked back to Xhuxk's mention of Jody, and I realize it's Jody responding to Xhuxk's calling Paisley, "the country singer it's okay for critics to like," which I guess Jody took to imply that generalist critics like Jody tend only to like country singers it's OK for critics to like. But country critics are just as capable as generalists of only liking country singers it's OK for critics to like, so I think Jody's misinterpreting Xhuxk's comment as about defending a territory (country) when it's actually about respectability (which is a different territory).

Frank Kogan, Friday, 5 February 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

(And Xhuxk and I are as much generalists as Jody is, of course.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 5 February 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Any thoughts about Holly Williams? She grazed the country top 60 a couple of times last year; she's also fundamentally a singer songwriter, even if her granddad did die in a Cadillac. The single, "Keep The Change," feels a bit like Christine McVie singing Van Morrison's "Wild Night," though not very wild. But good.

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Sorry to respond to a post from more than a month ago, but I gotta say that Holly Williams' record floored me last year. Would have never guessed she could do something that good. The whole thing is solid, but my favorites are "Keep the Change" and her duet with Chris Janson, "A Love I Think Could Last."

Indexed, Friday, 5 February 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

My dislike of Brad Paisley -- which starts at the recent album -- is because he's now the million dollar video goof, a teller of too many intelligence-insulting fairy tales. Generally, I like lots of fairy tales. Just not his on this record where he makes out to be drily humorous, warm and wise.

I'm all for class war. And Paisley's now part and mythologizer for a class I'd like to see suffer from it. Not that I have any illusion it'll happen. But I can have my dreams, can't I?

Gorge, Friday, 5 February 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry to gloat about this to anybody stuck in that horrible Middle Atlantic snowstorm, but it was super sunny and in the '60s in Austin this afternoon, excellent weather for driving around with the car window down, and it was pretty thrilling when the DJ on the country station segued from Lady Antebellum's "American Honey" ("nothing's sweeter than summertime") to Kid Rock's "All Summer Long" (music from Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama") to Billy Currington's "That's How Country Boys Roll" (music from Skynyrd's "What's Your Name") Somehow doubt that was an accident, and all three songs benefitted from it.

xhuxk, Saturday, 6 February 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I noticed this comment on the stupid fruity crazy swag thread:

i think the idea of having a monthly ILM digest with peeps from the Metal/Swag/D-Bag/Rolling Country/Indie/Electrobobbins donating their MUST LISTEN tracks/links/sites of the month would be totally next level

I normally wouldn't figure that more than 1% of ILM proper would care about a country link, but then again Taylor Swift won the trax poll...so I'll throw up a few Youtube's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjLy51AsMc

Radney Foster- A Little Revival

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J_11y-Ot3Y

Zane Williams- Pablo & Maria

President Keyes, Sunday, 7 February 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh, best not to let the get the thread get all youtubed out, though (not that I haven't been guilty of putting videos up too, on occasion.) Some of our browsers don't take kindly to that sort of overloading...

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 February 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

(i think the idea of having a monthly ILM digest with peeps from the Metal/Swag/D-Bag/Rolling Country/Indie/Electrobobbins donating their MUST LISTEN tracks/links/sites of the month would be totally next level

I like this idea. I think it would be more successful if the person starting it would be a popularity contest winning ILMer.)

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 7 February 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh, best not to let the get the thread get all youtubed out, though (not that I haven't been guilty of putting videos up too, on occasion.) Some of our browsers don't take kindly to that sort of
overloading...

Make that more than 'some'.

(i think the idea of having a monthly ILM digest with peeps from the Metal/Swag/D-Bag/Rolling Country/Indie/Electrobobbins donating their MUST LISTEN tracks/links/sites of the month would be totally next level

--
I like this idea. I think it would be more successful if the person starting it would be a popularity contest winning ILMer.)

Good sarcasm. Definitely need more cheerleading by student council members and lists.

Gorge, Sunday, 7 February 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, I didn't even mean it sarcastically. It's just realistic that some posters have more "authority" (via popularity) to successfully pull something like that off.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 7 February 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the rough bash of this indie-incompetent blues-country Sandwitches track; checked their MySpace and heard too much art-haze recessiveness on some of the other tracks, and the indie lose-by-losing tendency wears itself out, though I presume the Sandwitches don't conceive of it as recessiveness but as a strategy to produce beauty. Think there's potential here, and that the beauty is within reach but more likely to be achieved when aligned with bash. "Fire" and "Kiss Your Feet" have nice moments.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of our browsers don't take kindly to that sort of overloading...

Yeah, my cheap-jack EarthLink DSL modem balks when I try to load the mammoth ILM 2009 poll thread. (Actually, not being technically savvy, don't know if it's the modem or the CPU or insufficient RAM or what.) I've managed to get halfway into it: some interesting stuff there if you can manage to load it, especially from Tim Finney on Taylor.

Speaking of Taylor, her Better Than Ezra cover for Haiti relief is painfully out-of-tune (at least painful for me), though I think the pitch problem is the musicians' too, not just hers; I seem to be erratic as to when this sort of thing bothers me. And Taylor herself seems to be erratic, in that Cis reported Taylor completely in tune when she played London, and Himes wrote in his year-end essay that he'd seen her being pitch perfect. Maybe for all her apparent poise, she actually chokes in the face of a TV audience. (But my own pitch problems never have anything to do with choking or not, from what I can tell.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Like, the Sandwitches didn't tune up too strenuously on "Back To The Sea" and the sound works fine within their basic clatter, and the bad drumming has force, etc. They may have musical smarts that compensate for their lack of chops. Inspired amateurism can take as much savvy and effort as professional precision, though a different kind of effort.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the powerful competence of the Radney Foster "A Little Revival," definitely hits me though the impact fades over its four minutes - too many happy chords, and the lyrics are a string of meaningful thoughts from the Meaningful Thought Cheese Food Machine, an unintentional parody of significance. Nice and meta, about standing up for people who stand up, while the song doesn't actually stand up for anything.

I hung onto every word of Zane Williams' "Pablo & Maria," though I wish the plot had some surprise rather than Maria doing what you'd expect. I like that Williams didn't over-explain the story, didn't give you the background of who the characters were or why they'd gotten into their predicament. (Unless the characters are well-known in Texas lore of which I am ignorant.) I like the man's voice; another performer I'd affix the phrase "has potential" to. On the first song on his Webpage, "The Right Place," his voice is way less emphatic and distinctive, for some reason.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Did a skim of the other tracks on the Zane Williams site, and unfortunately ended up thinking "singer who sounds like that sort of singer" (folkie-honky-tonk, perhaps). Of course, on first listen to someone new that's usually how you hear it. "Six Steel Strings" and "The Cowboy And the Clown" and "Live To Love Again" all had force though I didn't hear anything distinctively Zane Williams in them. - the last of those sounding the most commercial and radio ready and stronger for it, but needs another singer to have a chance. Maybe a bigger recording budget would give Williams a bigger voice. "Pablo and Maria" stands out from everything else, jumps to the foreground from the first note, and it's the least "orchestrated" song here, mostly accompanied only by guitar, lets the melody and story take charge.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link

So, to sum up my Frank's Day On Rolling Country: indie incompetence is better than both Taylor incompetence and folkytonk competence. This is a rare result.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Frank, while you're on your indie/alt country kick, you should really check out that Sparrow and the Workshop band whose page I linked to a few posts up. Still not sure what to think about them, but I definitely get the idea there's something interesting going on there. (Though also, fwiw, there are at least three incompetent indie-rock LPs and EPS I've liked more than their one so far this year -- by bands named Screaming Females, Art Museums, and Blessure Grave. None of which sound especially country, but it seems fun to mention their names regardless.) (Oh yeah, Legendary Shack Shakers too. If they count.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 February 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Tried the Sparrow link several days ago and for some reason couldn't get the tracks on their MySpace to play.

I'd considered Th' Legendary Shack Shakers borderline eligible for my country ballot in the past, voted 'em number ten in 2004. Or does your "if they count" mean "if they count as incompetent indie-rock"?

Finally got around to listening to Jason Aldean's "The Truth" on that promo CD you sent last year, as that song's now bothering the pop charts. It's a wasted opportunity from a couple of good writers (Ashley Monroe, who's written plenty of songs for herself; and Brett James, who's got scores of credits including "Jesus Take The Wheel"), wasted 'cause, though Aldean's got a good basic twang, he's never evoked a damn thing in me; and because the lyrics botch what's actually a great idea: lovesick narrator drops out of sight, asks the object of his thwarted affections to come up with lies rather than tell the world he's still hung up on her, and the cover stories he suggests get progressively less and less respectable. "Tell 'em I went to visit friends" gives way to "tell 'em I'm out in Vegas, blowing every dollar I ever made." But they should have really gone somewhere with it, made the stories ever more outlandish and disreputable to show that virtually anything is better than admitting he's still in love. In place of that lame Vegas cliché, why not say he's out roaming the boonies with some traveling rep theater playing the lead role in an all male staging of Tess Of The D'Urbervilles?

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 7 February 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Has a fairly gorgeous melody, though -- really feels to me like the big sky country he's apparently pretending to have run off to. And yeah, no doubt his lies could be way more specific and absurd, but I still think "tell 'em that I must be into somethin' bad for me/'Cause I sure lost a lot of weight," the way he drawls it, has a real pang to it -- And I kind of like him leaving what that somethin' bad might be to the imagination. Grabs me every time on the car radio, haven't tired of it yet (can't think of a song I like more on the radio now, on any format), and Aldean's never done much for me emotionwise before, either.

And yeah, I meant I wasn't sure whether Th' Shack Shakers count as incompetent indie-rock; they definitely count as country in my book, and if I decide in the long run their 2010 album is good enough, I'd have no qualms whatsoever putting it on a Nashville Scene ballot.

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 February 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

can't think of a song I like more on the radio now

Well, that's partly because I've never heard Martina McBride's "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong" or (this being Austin) Trace Adkins' "Ala Freakin Bama" on the radio, admittedly. But as of now, I like "The Truth" as much or more than those anyway. ("American Honey" has a definite possibility of growing on me, though. Maybe also "That's How Country Boys Roll," if I wind up more tolerant of its words; we'll see. Uh, there's also an outside chance I should tune into other formats more -- I have nothing against "Tik Tok" by Ke$ha, if that helps.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 February 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Tried the Sparrow link several days ago and for some reason couldn't get the tracks on their MySpace to play.

Eh, actually, the more I listen to their EP (put it on again this morning), the more I figure you're not really missing much. The songs never really kick in, and the sound's not that interesting on its own.

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Singles Jukebox review roundup on Lady Antebellum's "American Honey" (which I'm starting to think I may have actually underrated slightly):

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1912

Also think I may have been overstating things by calling Aldean's "The Truth" gorgeous. What it is, is world-weary. Not unlike, say, an early '70s Glen Campbell hit or something. Feels that way to me, anyway.

Am starting to be obsessed with an old song by Don Williams, "Good Ole Boys Like Me," which I'd never heard before I moved to Texas but which I hear on the radio at least once every couple months now. A #2 country single in 1980, apparently. Might well be the most literary-minded country hit I've ever heard, too, since it mentions both Thomas Wolfe (read in bed as a kid while listening to the Wolfman) and Tennessee Williams ("those Williams boys they still mean a lot to me -- Hank and Tennessee"). Not sure who "John R" in the song (same line as the Wolfman) is, though. Anyway, this song is gorgeous. And I really know nothing else about Don Williams, embarrassing as that may be to admit. How typical is this of his material? Picked up his 2nd Greatest Hits LP for $1 over the weekend, so I guess I'll start to find out soon. (Saw some review of an earlier Josh Turner album where his singing was compared to Williams, which may or may not be a good sign.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I know shamefully little about him too, but "I Believe in Love" is really pretty and sometimes refreshing, if mostly dumb. It's sort of like Savage Garden's "Affirmation," where they list all the things they believe in, and some of those things are dumb, but they're heartwarming nonetheless. Only Don's is mostly a litany of disbelief. So he believes in babies and old folks, unfortunately, but he DOESN'T believe virginity is as common as it used to be, and he doesn't believe that heaven waits for only those who congregate. Those make sense. Of course, he also doesn't believe in organic food or foreign cars. What, like they don't exist? I'm on board with about half of his theology.

This one song I know doesn't remind me of Josh Turner much--they're both smooth, but Williams seems like he's close to nodding off, which I don't get from Turner. How's the Greatest Hits? I might try to track down more myself.

I assume John R is this guy, another southern DJ.

dr. phil, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

How's the Greatest Hits?

Well, especially for a singer this subtle, one listen obviously isn't gonna be enough to go on. But I will definitely say that I didn't like it anywhere near as much as the Merle Haggard (late '70s/early '80s best of), David Allan Coe (Rides Again), or Charlie Rich (Big Boss Man/My Mountain Dew -- holy shit, now I understand why people call him a jazz singer!) LPs I played right before it, or the Barbara Mandrell best-of LP I played right after it. And oddly, both Christgau and Thom Jurek at AMG agree that Volume II, the Williams best-of I got, is better than its predecessor. Anyway, it's cycle-of-romance ballads, pretty much 100%. "She Never Knew Me," the one where she walks out the door and he tracks what she'll be doing by the time she gets to Phoenix or wherever, was my favorite on first listen; had definitely also heard "Some Broken Hearts Never Mend," "You're My Best Friend," and (at least in Clapton's version) "Tulsa Time" before. And it was all pleasant, but also really really MOR/Adult Contemporary, as far as I could tell. Which isn't necessarily bad, but it means the songs are likely to take some time to sink in. And I'm stumped, but also kind of intrigued, by Jurek admitting Williams's influence on the crossover leanings of '80s Nashville, but then claiming "cats like Johnny Lee, David Frizell, Ronnie McDowell, and countless others ended up sounding like crummy pop singers while Williams never sounded like anything but a country singer." Not that he has to be pure country to win me over, obviously, but that sounds to me like, say, somebody making excuses for Eddie Vedder after he's spawned Scott Stapp and Chad Kroeger. But like I said, maybe there are subtleties I just haven't detected yet. And actually, the MOR quotient makes Williams seem more interesting, since '70s/'80s MOR country is a mostly unexplored foreign land for me.

Anyway, here's Christgau; I really like the Johnny Cash line, actually, even though I often hear more monotony than majesty in Cash himself:

Greatest Hits [ABC/Dot, 1975]
In which this new country honcho--who as a founder of the Pozo-Seco Singers competed in the '60s downhome sweepstakes with the likes of Jim McGuinn--casts about for a style of gentleness that suits him. At its worst his torpid singing has all of Johnny Cash's monotonousness and none of his majesty. But he does reject the ranker strains of corn. B

The Best of Don Williams Volume II [MCA, 1979]
Because I can't get behind him as a role model for Eric Clapton, and because he's at least as shrewd as Tammy Wynette, I've resisted Williams's mild vogue, but this collection can't be denied. He may not be the modest homebody he pretends to be, but he sure does project a convincing image of romantic-domestic contentment, complete with separation, sex, and second thoughts. Both the care of the songwriting and the assured, conversational lilt of the vocals divide the sentimentality from the sentiment. Unsinging heroes: composers Bob McDill and Wayland Holyfield. A-

Also looked up Xgau's Barbara Mandrell reviews, just for kicks. He likes her '70s soul-crossover hits a whole lot less than I do:

The Best of Barbara Mandrell [Columbia, 1977]
These minor early-'70s hits aren't what her admirers consider the best (that's coming out right now on Dot), but they do foreshadow her concept, in which she applies her limpid center and soft edges to such soul classics as "Show Me" and "Do Right Woman" and then sells them to the country audience--by upping the tempos, oddly enough. Hard to figure what's so innovative--didn't that Presley guy do something similar? And when he went to Vegas, he went on his own terms. C+

The Best of Barbara Mandrell [ABC, 1979]
Barbara's real secret isn't that she's a country singer who listens to Shirley Brown. It's that she's a country singer who reads Helen Gurley Brown. C+

xhuxk, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Rolling Stone Record Guide says Williams's songs were covered in the '70s by not just Clapton, but also Pete Townshend. (Doesn't say which songs.) And clearly what Williams and Josh Turner are supposed to have in common is that they both have really deep singing voices. Though I'm already getting the idea that Williams's was more graceful. (I'm also thinking less of Turner's one "jazzy" cut, at least today, after hearing what Charlie Rich could do with "Ol' Man River" and "I've Got You Under My Skin." Hell, maybe somebody should even lock Toby Keith or Alan Jackson in a room with just those two songs for a week.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"Good Ole Boys Like Me"

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Xhuxk, I'm pretty sure either you or a publicist at your instigation sent me a Don Williams LP in '04 at more or less the same time as Gene Watson ...Sings and T. Graham Brown's The Next Right Thing. All three albums were on Compendia. In any event, those two albums stuck and the Williams didn't, and if it's still in my apartment somewhere I can't find it.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Unsurprisingly, I am in love with the new Allison Moorer album. It's a little too floaty sometimes, but overall she's really finding a new voice and the song about her mother (set before all the tragedy) is kinda fucking awesome. Pretty sure she's not country anymore, but still. Also really like the countrified waltz on the Sade album!

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Thursday, 11 February 2010 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

When I was listening to that Sade album, I thought, "Hmmm, this one kind of sounds like Cowboy Junkies." Unfortunately, I never wanna listen to Cowboy Junkies.

dr. phil, Thursday, 11 February 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

tonight I went to Mother Maybelle Carter tribute show here in Nashville

saw the Carter Family Fold, John & Laura Cash, Del McCoury, The Whites, Tom T. Hall & others

surprise appearance: Earl Scruggs appeared & played guitar & banjo!!

ok back to Sade & whatnot

lukevalentine, Friday, 12 February 2010 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure who "John R" in the song (same line as the Wolfman) is, though.

"John R. was an American radio disc jockey who attained fame in the 1950s and 1960s for playing rhythm and blues music on Nashville radio station WLAC. Later rock music disc jockeys such as Alan Freed, Wolfman Jack, and others mimicked Richbourg's practice of using speech that simulated African-American street language of the mid-twentieth century."

So, apparently Don Williams grew up listening to Wolfman Jack / John R. Nashville R&B shows
& read Thomas Wolfe novels?

lukevalentine, Friday, 12 February 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

he sounds pretty hip

lukevalentine, Friday, 12 February 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe -- Did he actually write that song, though? I haven't checked, but on the best-of I got (which isn't in front of me), I'm pretty sure he didn't write any. As Xgau said above, most songs are credited to Bob McDill and Wayland Holyfield. So I wouldn't be sure that "Good Ole Boys" (which I'm guessing is atypical of his work) is autobiographical.

Btw, the one Don Williams LP recommended in The Blackwell Guide To Country Music is also the one I bought, Best Of Vol. II. But in Heartaches By The Number: Country Music's 500 Greatest Singles, Cantwell and Friksics-Warren list just "I Believe In You" at #417. They like lines about inflation, gas shortages, and closeminded churches, and one they quote as saying "I don't believe...that right is right and left is wrong." (Writers were Roger Cook and Sam Hogin.)

Barbara Mandrell gets zero mentions in the index of that singles book, fwiw. And also fwiw, I haven't decided yet how much I like her, though as I said it's definitely more than Christgau does. On the Best Of from 1979 I've got, as far as I can tell, turns out that only a few songs -- definitely "Woman To Woman," maybe "After The Lovin" or "Love Is Thin Ice" -- actually evince much r&b influence. And what surprised me just now, looking at Joel Whitburn, is that this was her first album to chart in the Billboard 200, and it only got to #170; I think of her as being this big '70s crossover star, but I've been wrong, obviously, and her TV show didn't go on the air until 1980. "If Lovin' You Is Wrong (I Don't Wanna Be Right)," previously done by Luther Ingram in 1972 and Millie Jackson in 1975 (and a #31 pop hit for Mandrell, her only Top 40), charted in March 1979, a month after the Best Of (which it's not on) came out. So it's not clear how much soul was in her sound, before and after the songs on the best-of.

xhuxk, Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

John Morthland lists two Don Williams albums:

Don Williams: Greatest Hits (MCA). As a collection of 1972-75 songs, this is a staggering album. But somehow, it doesn't quite hold up; emotions that are supposed to be standing naked sound like posturing - or reverse posturing, to be more precise. But those are minor quibbles when the songs in question are along the lines of "Amanda," "She's in Love with a Rodeo Man," "The Ties That Bind," "I Recall a Gypsy Woman," and other early hits.

Don Williams: The Best of Don Williams, Vol. II (MCA). Williams keeps everything so low-key that he makes you concentrate on his music, the way someone who speaks very softly makes you listen more closely. For that reason, he can also wear thin; after the initial glow wore off his sound, his albums became less rewarding. But this volume covers his peak years of 1975-78, when Wayland Holyfield and Bob McDill were giving him songs like "Some Broken Hearts Never Mend," "(Turn Out the Light and) Love Me Tonight," "'Til All the Rivers Run Dry," "Rake and Rambling Man," and "You're My Best Friends." These are all direct sentiments, expressed simply, and the intimate backing of the band, complete with strings, combines with Williams' muffled baritone to create warmth and empathy. Williams' recurring suggestion that the emotional problems men and women struggle through are not all that different is a shocking admission coming from a male country singer.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

A 12-second sound clip of John R. (either from his radio show or from a later re-enactment). According to Wikipedia and other online sources he played almost nothing that wasn't r&b. He was Caucasian, but in the early years most listeners assumed he was black. Went from the mid 1940s to the early '70s.

"After retiring, Richbourg produced cassette tapes featuring reconstructions of his shows, together with the music. Some of these still circulate among traders, as do 'bootleg' recordings from the radio broadcasts."

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

and a #31 pop hit for Mandrell, her only Top 40

Really? Wasn't she country before country was cool? That wasn't Top 40?

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 14 February 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Nope. Just checked her Wiki discography, too -- it went #1 country, but didn't chart pop at all. Looks like her cover of Aretha's "Do Right Woman Do Right Man" went #128 pop in 1970, and after that she didn't chart pop again until "Woman To Woman," #98 in 1977. Six more singles charted #105 or better between then and 1980, but of those, only "If Loving You Is Wrong" went higher than #89. Which again, really surprises to me, too -- especially for somebody who seemingly had some mass-culture presence (thanks to network TV) during the Urban Cowboy era, when I get the idea country pop crossovers were hardly uncommon.

George Smith on Little Jimmy Dickens (goes for a few posts):

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

xhuxk, Sunday, 14 February 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Taxonomic inquiry: Kat asks over on the poptimists' Best Song Of 2005 Heat One thread whether "Hotel Yorba" counts as country (she's thinking of doing a special country compilation post for 2000-2004). See my answer there, and add your own, if you're so inclined.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Anybody else but me see Gretchen Wilson with an electric guitarist do the national anthem at the NBA Allstar game in Dallas the other night? Not bad. Usher did a mini-concert pre-game show.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, chuck, how's the Haggard album?

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Really good, and a lot better than I expected -- honestly, on initial perusal, it's easily among the one or two best albums of new music (any genre) I've heard so far this year. That could change, obviously, as I listen more. But it has jazz and blues and a duet, and a good song about the world changing beneath his feet and a song about Mexican music (that incorporates some) and a song about staying a couple after your kids are grown and one about sticking to his guns. (Title: I Am What I Am.) His voice definitely sounds older (even compared to the couple good albums he put out in the '00s), which I would expect to bug me. But he's carrying his, uh, haggardness surprisingly well.

Definitely better than the new Jason and the Scorchers (which has at least one song I like -- the one at the beginning about a moonshine guy living in a six-pack world wherein he loves the Stones and hates the Doors and thinks the Beatles are for girls -- but soon after starts to drag and just keeps dragging) and new Chely Wright (which has a song or two that might conceivably kick in, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

So, here's the MySpace page for the Austin alt-country band that mad-as-hell-and-not-gonna-take-it-anymore Joe Stack apparently played bass in, before flying his plane into an IRS office building here this morning:

http://www.myspace.com/billyeli

music is influenced by the Byrds, Rolling Stones, Gram Parsons, Buck Owens, George Jones, Kris Kristofferson, and all the underground cosmic cowboy bands of the early 70's

xhuxk, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I just heard a newish Toby Keith single called "Cryin' For Me (Wayman's Song)" . It's a very odd song for Toby, featuring a extended saxaphone solo, that wouldn't be out of place on a 70's soft rock song. Actually the sax part kind of reminds me of a Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band song called 'Coming Home' off The Distance. Maybe it's not too odd, but it's very smooth for a country boy like him.

Jacob Sanders, Friday, 19 February 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, Toby's definitely done smooth songs before. But that one's a eulogy for his friend Wayman Tisdale; hence, the smooth jazz parts.

And speaking of smooth, turns out my wife's parents are huge fans of Don Williams. I had no idea. They pulled out my copy of the LP I bought when I was upstairs, and started singing along to the songs, calling it real cry in your beer Texas country, proclaiming the classic status of "Some Broken Hearts Never Mend," and trying to figure out whether Don ever did any happy ones. They decided, yeah -- a couple. And they were amazed that I'd never really known anything about him until a couple weeks ago. Anyway, they're selling me, I think. He's clearly a romantic soundtrack to what it means to be together for the long haul, even if lots of his songs are about how that's not so easy.

Listened today to Old Familiar Feeling by the Whites, who lukevalentine mentioned here seeing live a couple weeks ago -- their Ricky Skaggs-produced album from 1983. AMG says it's their debut record, but Wiki lists a few before it that AMG says were actually released under a different group name, the Down Home Folks. A couple years later, they apparently went gospel and switched to Christian label Word; Buck White, the trio's patriarch, had had a career that dated back to the late '40s, when he was doing Western Swing -- which is probably why his one real solo turn, "Pipeliner Blues," sounds like such an authentic distillation of old white country blues and hillbilly boogie-woogie. It's also pretty raunchy tomcat stuff -- he's gonna lay his pipe on you, and he always sees some gal walking the street like she's a policeman on the beat. Which makes it a real anamoly on what's primarily an album of pristine squeaky-clean bluegrass harmonies from his daughters Sharon and Cheryl. Apparently they got a couple top ten country hits out of it too, and a few more through the '80s, and were later on the O Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack. Anyway, the daughters are fine here, but I don't know how much more I care about hearing by them. Am curious, though, about Buck's own early stuff -- he was apparently born in 1930, and I get the idea he'd lived a little.

xhuxk, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link

So, here's the MySpace page for the Austin alt-country band that mad-as-hell-and-not-gonna-take-it-anymore Joe Stack apparently played bass in, before flying his plane into an IRS office building here this morning:

Something of a career-ender. Time to sack pathetic MySpace webpage, change name, etc.

Gorge, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, more messages to come like this, meanwhile, I'm sure:

green bracelet
Feb 18 2010 6:37 PM
Dude. I met you in Austin thru Kenneth when we played SXSW. What a tragedy about Joseph Stack. It has been all over the news today.

Let the record show that they also claim to have been influenced by David Allan Coe, the Gin Blossoms, Jackson Browne, Gary Stewart, and Jason and the Scorchers. (And that the plane crashed just up Research Boulevard North of Mopac, just a couple miles from where I live.)

xhuxk, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd never thought of this (though also never saw the De Palma movie, nor read the King novel): Over in Heat One of the poptimists Best Of 2005 competition, Meserach calls Carrie Underwood "the appropriately monikered psychotically wronged Carrie," for the relish with which she performs "Before He Cheats."

Frank Kogan, Friday, 19 February 2010 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Joe Stack's other band, apparently. (Name: Last Straw. Album title: Over The Edge):

http://www.myspace.com/laststrawmusic

Explanation of what Southern Soul singer J. Blackfoot and Ricky Skaggs have in common, followed by investigation into recent soul-blues songs about fishing holes:

Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

Discussion of Dion DiMucci's vocal influences, and related questions. (He was a Hank Williams and blues fan, and may have in turn influenced some country singers, so tangentially related to this thread):

Dion and the Belmonts- classic or dud?

xhuxk, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

When I saw that about Carrie Underwood being "appropriately monikered," I started wondering "What does she have in common with deviled ham?" And then I remembered, "Oh yeah, she has a first name, too." (You should rent Carrie, Frank. Haven't watched it in years myself, but it always seemed pretty archetypal as far as teenage social outcast revenge flicks go. Then again, I was in high school myself at the time.)

xhuxk, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Jeezus, this is awful even without knowing who's playing jazzy keyboard. Went to HACC in Harrisburg, never graduated. Milton Hershey student. In SoCal where the Franchise Tax Board was after him although people reading the stories may not understand that if the IRS audits and finds unreported income it automatically sends that to the FTB which inexorably bills for that, so you can't have the latter without the
former. And if you don't pay fines or bills to the government in California it eventually sanctions you anyway.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/laststraw/from/payplay

Didn't hear the Billy Eli stuff -- the page immediately locked up my browser. But for all the rage bottled inside him, he couldn't express it in the music at all.

I guess he could be the subject of a song. How the American crackpot rails against the evil greed of the corporations and government, draws his plans, and upon carrying them out only manages to take down people in his own class or family.

The weekly example are guys who send powders in envelopes to government buildings around the country, sometimes with threatening letters, where they are always opened by secretaries.

Gorge, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I blog about Josh Turner's "Why Don't We Just Dance?" (am borderline on it; that track is a tad too comfortable with what ought to be an easy-flying "Your Mama Don't Dance" groove). And if you scroll up on that page you'll see me being awestruck over how on "We Are The World 15: For Haiti" everyone from Bieber to T-Pain fits in seamlessly except for Miley Cyrus, who sounds raw and off and out of place in group contexts no matter what.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 21 February 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

So....first off I should note that I am a late convert to David Nail's "Red Light." I really like the details about what's going on in all the other cars surrounding him in the sunny Sunday afternoon traffic jam, while his girl is dumping him before the light changes.

Found a copy of the Desert Rose Band's Curb/MCA debut from 1987 for $1, and have since absorbed it. Went #24 on the country chart, with singles going #1, #2, #6, and #26; they had a few more top tens over the next couple years, then did a slow radio fade through the early '90s. Chris Hillman, the Byrds/Burritos guy, is on lead vocals and acoustic guitar, along with two other main guys and assorted helper-outers. Longest liner notes I've ever seen on a non-reissue / regular-issue mainstream country album, I think, by one Paul Clois Stone, apparently a historian and musician from Texas; he devotes a whole paragraph, even, to analyzing the LP's cover artwork, "discerningly linked to contemporary Western art through the lens of noted landscape and portrait photgrapher Jay Dusard." Music is jangly non-hard country-rock with moments of light Nick Lowe (post-sense-of-humor era) powerpop ("One Step Forward," the #2 hit) and Ricky Skaggs crossover bluegrass ("Time Between," apparently re-recorded from the Byrds' Younger Than Yesterday.) "Glass Hearts" quotes Buddy Holly's "True Love Ways" and sounds very very slightly Tex-Mex maybe. A few pretty good broken heart songs ("He's Back And I'm Blue," the #1, and "One That Got Away," a cheating song I think, and "Leave This Town"); one sunny one about having fun in a bad economy ("Hard Times".") It all sounds nice enough, but it's not sung or played with tons of urgency or passion, so none of it totally kills me -- If you're talking '80s proto-alt-country guys reviving the Bakersfield sound, Dwight Yoakam probably did it better.

Some of it makes me think "the country side of pub-rock," but that might just be because Brinsley Schwarz wanted to be the Burrito Brothers themselves. I played Desert Rose back to back with ex-Schwarzer Ian Gomm's Gomm With The Wind from 1979, possibly the most easy listening notable pub-related album this side of Ace (of "How Long" fame), and Gomm actually sounded edgier to me (in "Chicken Run," especially, and maybe "24 Hour Service" and his cover of Chuck Berry's "Come On.") Also didn't think Desert Rose had any songs as memorable as Gomm's "Hold On," which went Top 20 pop in the U.S. in 1979 and tracked so close to "Baker Street" that I doubt anybody who didn't know Gomm used to Lowe's bandmate considered it new wave at all.

Country-rock album I've really been obsessing on in the past 24 hours though is a new one, albeit recorded in 2000 to 2001 -- Buried Behind the Barn by Slim Cessna's Auto Club on Alternative Tentacles, apparently early previously unreleased (except on CD-R) versions of eight songs (totaling a half hour, good length) they later released on subsequent albums, none of which I've ever heard. Sound is somewhere in the gothic uptempo rustic hoedown territory of Red Swan and Woodbox Gang, two bands I liked a lot in the '00s without anybody else paying attention to them. (Woodbox also on Alternative Tentacles, which makes Cessna etc. only the latest evidence of a disconcerning realization I've had in recent years that Jello Biafra and I apparently have really similar tastes -- weird.) Lyrics frequently concern ghosts and dead bodies and people getting shot in the head and alcoholic mineworking in-laws falling off the wagon, not necessarily in that order. "Angel" takes the melody of the Everly Brothers' "Bye Bye Love," and my wife commented that another song sounded to her like something off of Hole's Celebrity Skin. In one of the catchiest songs (though they're almost all pretty catchy), somebody wants to blame something on the Port Authority Band, though I haven't figured out what yet, and I never knew the Port Authority had a band in the first place.

Here's how their Wiki page describes Slim Cessna et. al: "a country music band formed in 1993 in Denver, Colorado. The constant in the band has been Slim Cessna, formerly a member of The Denver Gentlemen along with David Eugene Edwards and Jeffery-Paul of 16 Horsepower. Their music includes elements of country blues, Southern gospel, gothabilly and other forms loosely grouped as Americana or alternative country. The Auto Club is sometimes labeled 'country gothic' due to the juxtaposition of apocalyptic religious imagery with stories of alcohol, violence, and relationships gone awry." (I also liked the 16 Horsepower archival set that Alternative Tentacles sent out last year, though not as much as I like this Slim Cessna one.) Here's their myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/slimcessnasautoclub

Playing Elizabeth Cook's new album (not due out til May, on 31 Tigers); sounding surprisingly good to me so far, considering her previous album really bored me. (Though I did like the album that her husband, Tim Carroll, formerly of Indiana punk band the Gizmos, put out last year. And he's credited with guitar, slide, bango, harmonica, etc., here.)

http://www.myspace.com/elizabethcook

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Speaking of the Belmonts (whom Xhuxk alluded to upthread), any thoughts about B.J. Thomas, who did the original - or at least the hit version of - "Rock And Roll Lullaby" which made it a year later onto the Belmonts Cigars, Acapella, Candy? Don't know much about Thomas, except that in its day "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" was the sort of thing that would make me throw bricks at people's heads. I'm sure I'd have a more benign attitude now. I'm streaming one of his hits collections <a href="http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.artistalbums&artistid=17988937&ap=0&albumid=10416969";>on MySpace</a> right now, though haven't gotten to "Raindrops" - I started in the middle with "Rock And Roll Lullaby." His version isn't as exquisite as the Belmonts' but it's just as good: starts with guitar twang, rolls along as a deep AC track but gets ever more doo-wop as it continues. The song was written by Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil, and not surprisingly there's a bit of class awareness in it: the woman who's singing the rock and roll lullabies to the narrator back when he was a tyke is a struggling, unwed teen mother.

Thomas started with one foot in country, his first hit being "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry." Then he veered adult contemporary. A couple more strong, rich songs follow "Rock And Roll Lullaby" ("Back Against The Wall," "No Other Baby") then we're stuck with treacle like "You Can Call That A Mountain" and "What's Forever For." But the man's got a nice MOR voice, a lot less pushy than Neil Diamond's, say, and more flexible than Gordon Lightfoot's. "Ballyhoo Days" is a gentle track where he's a former star ("Once my name had swept the nation/Now my job is sweeping cafes").

Hadn't realized he'd done the original "Hooked On A Feeling," though I realize I've heard his version plenty, thought I'd forgotten the totally incongruous sitar. The track is built on soul, for all the weirdness, could be the Four Tops bass player. "Raindrops" is inoffensive, not bad. (Fast Forward.) "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" has a rigidly clipped rhythm, very strange, and an organ halfway between church and skating rink. He's smoother than the percussion, that's for sure.

Anyway, in the '80s he ends up back in country, according to Wikipedia, though I don't know that period of his at all.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Grumble grumble format conversion grumble grumble Hooked On A Feeling um um etc.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I do have some thoughts about B.J. Thomas (or I have before, anyway, possibly even on some previous Rolling Country thread), but I'm not sure I can precisely conjure them from memory, beyond the fact that his adult-contemporary clearly had both country and soul in it. (I also have two LPs by him on my shelf, purchased cheaply of course in recent years, both released in 1970: Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head and Everybody's Out Of Town. Not to mention his own "Rock And Roll Lullaby" 45 from 1972, which Joel Whitburn informs me has Dave Somerville from doo-wop strollers the Diamonds singing backup and Duane Eddy playing guitar on it, which might partly explain why Greil Marcus listed it in the discography in the back of Stranded. Anyway, I will hereby move the two LPs back into the waiting-to-be-played pile.)

Also. "Today" by Gary Allan (#18 country hit now) = Girl-who-got-away-married-somebody-else-today country, like Toby Keith's "She Never Cried In Front Of Me" or Billy Ray Cyrus's "Could've Been Me" (or Brooklyn Bridge's "Worst Thing That Could Happen" or Nick Lowe's "I Knew The Bride When She Used To Rock'n'Roll" or the Fools' "Dressed In White," minus the "country" part.) Except it's way less good than any of those.

Rest of Gary Allan's new album isn't killing me either. I like the two tough rockers near the beginning, "Get Off On The Pain" and "That Ain't Gonna Fly." "Kiss Me When I'm Down" has some clever lyrics (which I quoted up above), and beyond that there's some high lonesome singing and high lonesome guitar parts now and then. Closer "No Regrets" is a longish waltzy thing about how Gary wouldn't trade away the past he had with his ex, and sounds like something that might eventually kick in, though probably not. But little of the set is grabbing me now.

Speaking of currently charting singles, anybody know if any of these are any good (or bad)?

47 52 56 4 Free, Jack Ingram
J.Joyce (J.Knowles,T.Summar ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 47
48 53 2 Blue Sky, Emily West Featuring Keith Urban
M.Bright (E.West,G.Burr ) Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 48
52 59 2 Bring On The Love, Coldwater Jane
W.Kirkpatrick,K.Kadish (K.Kadish,B.Jane,L.Crutchfield,W.Kirkpatrick ) Mercury DIGITAL | 52
53 60 2 Giddy On Up, Laura Bell Bundy
M.Shimshack (L.B.Bundy,J. Cohen,M.Shimshack ) Mercury DIGITAL | 53
55 58 59 10 Over The Next Hill, Brooks & Dunn & Mac Powell
T.Brown,J.Carter Cash (J.R.Cash ) Essential DIGITAL | Arista Nashville | 55
57 NEW 1 Kiss Me Now, Katie Armiger
B.Daly (K.Armiger,S.Buxton,B.Daly ) Cold River DIGITAL | 57
58 NEW 1 A Woman Needs, Jessica Harp
J.Flowers (J.Harp,J.Flowers,J.Mowery ) Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WRN | 58

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Fast, or what?

BJ Thomas, "Little Green Apples": White soul-country guy deftly covers huge hit by black soul-country guy, making what I assume must be the most minstrel-music-worthy line in any chart-topping hit in the past several decades ("when myself iz feelin low") seem even more blackface. Still sounds great regardless, of course. (He also does "This Guy's in Love With You," "Suspicious Minds," "Guess I'll Pack My Things" [who made that one famous? I was thinking it must be Charlie Rich; it's somebody I was listening to recently, but it's not on Rich's reissue CD, hmmm..], assorted Jimmy Webb and Joe South numbers whose titles don't look familiar, and of course "Raindrops Keep Fallin On My Head," which is pretty great even though as a kid I may well have hated it as much as "Candy Man" by Sammy Davis Jr [which may have had minstrel leanings of its own, come to think of it.]) (And I just now realized that I don't know if I've ever heard BJ's "Rock and Roll Lullabye," which critics have forever sworn is genius. Is that possible? Or maybe I've heard it and I just forget what it's like?)
― xhuxk, Sunday, April 8, 2007

listened to a five-song sampler from the new BJ Thomas album. Best song is a hard rockabilly cover of Travis Tritt's cover of Elvis's (apparently, though I can't remember ever actually hearing Elvis's version) "Trouble" (you know: "There goes T-R-O-U-B-L-E"), but the rest is a lot schlockier, theoretically interesting when BJ goes into Luther Vandross mode, less so when he goes into Tom Jones mode, but not enough to hold my attention either way.
― xhuxk, Saturday, September 8, 2007

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

bj thomas - everybody's out of town LP - 75 cents

the bj thomas album has a bacharach-david number called "send my picture to scranton, PA"! best song, though, is the title track, about gentrification. cool LP cover. he covers nillson and simon and garfunkel and soul songs, and bacharach/david also produced it. better than the used raindrops keep fallin' on my head i bought by him last year.
-- xhuxk, Sunday, April 27, 2008

Now I think BJ Thomas's "Everybody's Out Of Town" is neither about gentrification nor suburbanization, but more about everybody leaving the city for the weekend, like a long holiday weekend in the summer. Still a good song, though. And the Scranton, PA, song is sung from the point of view of somebody who grew up an outcast there and wants everybody back home to know he's made it big elsewhere. They really should play it on The Office sometime I think.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, April 29, 2008

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

new Chely Wright...has a song or two that might conceivably kick in, but I'm not gonna hold my breath

Maybe I should have. Couple listens in, a few tracks started to kick in bigtime, turns out: "Notes To The Coroner" (most hookful song about imagining one's one death I've heard in a while); "Snowglobe" and maybe "Heavenly Days" ('60s pop meets modern country confections Deana Carter might approve of, the latter with a sweet windmills-of-your-mind swirl); "That Train" (acclerating train song with train rhythm since said train is what Chely says she wants to be, with cascading acoustic guitar parts); "Damn Liar" and "Object Of Your Rejection" (revenge songs seemingly directed at the same guy who maybe dumped her and she sounds very pissed about it, the former a simple primal perhaps Miranda Lambert-inspired stomp, the latter more shimmering Suzanne Vega/Amy Grant '90s pop sung in a little voice since Chely's "that little voice inside your head" reminding you "you can get away with treating people like shit" -- direct and unguarded emotion, these two); maybe "Shadows Of Your Doubt" (soft-spoken six-minute closer, pretty gondola lullaby possibly addressed to same guy she still wants back --actually not sure I'm following that one yet, so don't quote me on it.) The press release says Chely wrote all the songs, except one Rodney Crowell co-write.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, "Snowglobe" is the windmill-swirl one, not so much "Heavenly Days." And Crowell also produced the album, fwiw. And I'm pretty sure I heard at least one other rare-for-country swear word (besides "shit") on the record; just didn't take note of where. (Release date is May 4.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, found it -- toward the tail end of "Damn Liar" (which actually starts out more a drone before evolving into a stomp while building in intensity) she switches to "fucking liar" once. So much for radio play.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

imagining one's one death

One's own death: "I hope I haven't been lying here long/I'd say I told you so but I'm long gone." Hopes it wasn't her sister who found the corpse. If you start reading the details of her demise she wrote back in December, you'll learn the cause of death. Which turns out to be variations on a broken heart, but still -- Kind of morbid and funny.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"Giddy On Up" by Laura Bell Bundy = modern-day jig-pop with soul horns and Rednexy fiddle breaks and a readymade silly title chorus and a cowboy whorehouse saloon floor-show video, plus cute drawling turning into deep growling and spoken verses that flirt with rapping. Recalls Dolly Parton in dance mode. Thumbs up.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

"Bring On The Love" by Coldwater Jane = One each long-haired blonde and brunette Sheryl Crow impersonator drive from California to Virginia, assisted by Petty/Adams powerchords, and apparently experience some car troubles which aren't terribly hard to fix. Another thumbs up, I think, though needs more hearing to figure out what's going on in the lyrics.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Getting the idea that the best (or least worst?) songs on that ambitious, interminable, completely ridiculous new Shooter Jennings album are toward the end: "Summer Of Rage" (1990 collage-metal-style political centerpiece about wearing gas masks in a police state -- only song that explicitly coincides with all of Stephen King's silly apocalpyse rant interludes, as far as I can tell); "California Vs. Tennessee" (probably the most pumping and melodic hard rock on the album, about traveling cross country to get away from some girl); "The Illumninated" (thickest nuclear winter Sabbath doomsday trudge attempt on the thing); "When The Radio Goes Dead" (okay that goes along with King's concept too obviously, but mainly it just has a pleasant guitar cascade to it.) Whole record's a mess, but I'm starting to feel a small affection for it -- As conceptual age-of-darkness bullshit goes, it's certainly no less coherent than, say, the new Gil Scott-Heron. (Though that one's about half as long as this, which does work in its favor.)

Also should mention that that Slim Cessna's Auto Show CD I mentioned above does have a couple fairly depressive, downtempo tracks -- maybe three or so, out of eight. (For goth-country, not a bad percentage!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, I'm guessing that some of Jennings's other songs on the album are maybe meant to deal with the apocalypse concept; but if so, I'm just not picking up on their words through all of the grunge murk.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Because there was a discussion about him, here's some Don Williams news regarding him being a new member of the Country Music Hall of Fame. Other 2010 inductees: Jimmy Dean, Ferlin Husky and Billy Sherrill.

http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/02/23/710775.aspx

jetfan, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

"Snowglobe" is the windmill-swirl one

And the psychedelic pop one, apparently. Chely takes a pill she shouldn't have but says she doesn't regret it; talks to her mom about the planets; watches circles and squares fade in and out; floats in a snowglobe and watches apostrophes and commas in space; wonders if it's a dream. Or at least that's what it sounds like she's saying.

The next song “Like Me”, is sung to someone who likes the color green, but doesn't like tomatoes, and is close to his or her maternal grandma, and can count all the time he or she's lied on one hand, and drinks beer after gardening, and isn't sure whether he or she will end up holding the hand of a tall handsome man or a beautiful woman. Thought it might be Chely herself, but she says the person's closet is filled with Levi's and dress pants, so conceivably it's a guy, maybe the same guy she’s split up with in other songs. Unless it isn't.

Starting to think she's a pretty interesting songwriter – or at least she seems willing to take some risks not many other country-pop songwriters are taking. (She also apparently has a biography coming out, for what that’s worth.) The only other album I have by her, Single White Female from 1999, which I mainly kept for its excellent title track, credits only one and a half songs to her. ("Single White Female" itself was written by Carolyn Dawn Johnson and Shaye Smith. But she did apparently write “The Bumper Of My S.U.V.,” her song that pissed me off in 2005 where a liberal soccer mom in a mini-van flips the bird at her for her U.S. Marines bumper sticker.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Singles Jukeboxers consider Trace Adkins' "Ala-Freakin'-Bama":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1974

Heard Josh Turner's "Me And God" from a couple years back on the radio this afternoon, and remembered one reason he used to bug me so much. I swear, every time I hear that, here's what it sounds like he's singing:

There ain't nothing that can't be done
By Mean God
Ain't nobody gonna come in between Mean God
One day we'll live together
Where the angels trod
Mean God...

He rules the world
With a staff and rod
We're a team
Mean God

xhuxk, Friday, 26 February 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

So hey, where'd everybody go?? This place was totally hopping just a few weeks ago. Weird.

Anyway, heard an amazing song from I don't think I ever heard before on the radio over the weekend -- "Kay" by John Wesley Ryles, which is sung from the point of view of a guy who sells all his stuff so his girlfriend can try to make it in Music City, and she becomes a big star and tours the country and (I think) dumps him, and he winds up driving a Nashville cab. Apparently went #83 on Billboard's Hot 100 in 1968, then #50 in a different version on the country chart 10 years later. Not sure which version I heard; in fact, since the DJ didn't announce it and I had to Google it when I got home, it's also possible I heard Daryl Singletary's 2002 cover. (I heard an all-covers album by him a couple years ago; "Kay" wasn't on it, though it did apparently have a version of Don Williams's "Some Broken Hearts Never Mend.") Anyway, Joel Whitburn says John Ryles came from Lousiana and later worked in Dallas and Fort Worth. And Wiki lists him as having lots of mostly low-level country hits between 1968 and 1988 (including one that went #14 in 1979 called "Liberated Woman"), but his name is completely new to me.

Jon Caramanica on Danny Gokey (who I'm clueless about) and Ben Ratliff on new Shooter Jennings album, in the NY Times. Latter review made me chuckle. Ratliff compares the music to Ministry and Pink Floyd. Also says Shooter samples conspiracy theorist Myron Fagan, which I wasn't aware of (uh, maybe I should've read the press release.) I also hadn't connected "The Illuminated" with The Illuminati til now, duh...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/arts/music/01choice.html?sq=&st=cse&%2334;shooter%20jennings=&%2334;=&scp=1&pagewanted=all

xhuxk, Monday, 1 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Legendary Shack Shakers actually have more Ministry-reminiscent clanking on Agridustrial, if you ask me, and at least they go Shooter one better by trying to cross Ministry with ZZ Top, in "Sin Eater" for instance. Definitely a few good hearty backwoods-barbecue slide-boogie riffs on the record -- "Greasy Creek" might be the thickest. Favorite track so far, though, is "Dump Road Yodel," which is also as close as they get to Woodbox Gang or Red Swan (see Slim Cessna notes above), with old timey banjo-jig picking and yodelling parts -- probably the least ugly thing on the album, too. Wish I could hear its words better though; seems to have a intriguing yarn about what happens down said road attached, but the singer's murk forces you to strain to hear the words, and that's the biggest barrier to the album as a whole in fact. His spoken part at the beginning of "The Hills Of Hell" about women being crucified in Kentucky in the late 1800s connects better than most of his singing. They do a right sprightly version of "Sugar Baby" by Dock Boggs, though. (The only cover song on it, far as I know.)

xhuxk, Monday, 1 March 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"Sin Eater" is probably a ZZ Top tune. At least my memory says ZZ renamed "Pin Cushion" as that.

Gorge, Monday, 1 March 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"Kiss Me Now" by Katie Armiger = More Bryan Adams/Tommy Tutone-style-powerchord country powerpop, from a girl begging for affection. Probably just generic, but too catchy to hold that against it too much.

"Over The Next Hill" by Brooks & Dunn & Mac Powell = Ronnie Dunn end-times-are-near country gospel duet with the apparent lead singer of apparent Christian fake grunge act Third Day, though actually at least a little more uplifting and less dreary than that description implies.

xhuxk, Friday, 5 March 2010 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Now on Billboard's country singles chart (though from '09 albums):

39 51 2 The House That Built Me, Miranda Lambert
F.Liddell,M.Wrucke (T.Douglas,A.Shamblin ) Columbia DIGITAL | 39
47 RE-ENTRY 3 Every Dog Has Its Day, Toby Keith
T.Keith (T.Keith,B.Pinson,J.Waples ) Show Dog-Universal DIGITAL | 47

Haven't heard these (which may or may not be worth hearing):

50 54 2 Chillin', Blaine Larsen
J.Ritchey (B.Larsen,E.M.Hill,P.O'Donnell ) Treehouse PROMO SINGLE | 50
51 1
Tell Your Sister I'm Single, Tyler Dickerson
J.Rich,C. Pennachio (J.I. Rich,A.Williams,T. Rosen ) Lyric Street PROMO SINGLE | 51
52 53 2 Ain't No Stopping Her Now, Ash Bowers
New Voice Entertainment (A.Bowers,K.Jacobs ) Stoney Creek PROMO SINGLE | 52
59 NEW 1 Just Knowing You Love Me, Jimmy Wayne With Whitney Ducan
D.Huff (J.Wayne,B.Beavers,T.Martin ) Valory DIGITAL | 59
60 NEW 1 Blossom In The Dust, Mallary Hope
D.Bason,M.Bright (M.Hope,J.Henderson,J.Doyle ) MCA Nashville DIGITAL

xhuxk, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"Blossom In The Dust" by Mallary Hope = Girl named Rose in tattered dress born in weed-strewn trailer park to teenage Mom with a presumably drug-related "habit", winds up with a "real nice" and presumably higher class couple "across the county line" who haven't had much luck coming up with offspring of their own; blossoms like a rose growing through the concrete in Spanish Harlem except this is the white trash version, not to mention a do-gooder adoption (hence implicitly anti-abortion) P.S.A. that Martina McBride could be proud of. Given all that, I like it - has a pretty upswoop; one of 2010's better country singles so far.

"Tell Your Sister I'm Single" by Tyler Dickerson = John Rich writing in man-slut mode. Girl tells boyfriend she wants to see other people; guy says "I'll trade you tit for tat, I like the sound of that," tells her he's open to her Mama too. "Let's keep it in the family, yeah you can call me Daddy" -- huh?? Yuck. Sounds like: John Rich in hackwork mode.

"Chillin'" by Blaine Larsen = Hazy lazy summer cliches, lazily sung, but Blaine's pretty decent at that; makes a halfway decent surrogate Kenny Chesney. He's out by the lake, I think, "singing Seger, Cash, Bo Diddley, and Bob Dylan." Interesting list. Kinda boring song regardless.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay so the funniest thing about the new Rosanne Cash is that when Rufus Wainwright starts up his backing vocals on Silver Wings, I totally thought it was Michael Mcdonald.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Singles Jukebox jury on:

Brad Paisley "American Saturday Night"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1990

Josh Turner, "Why Don't We Just Dance"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1995

Martina McBride, "Wrong Baby Wrong"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2018

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

10 '80s Country hit artists who fell through the cracks, from the 9513 blog (including sometime disco singer Deborah Allen, Baille And The Boys, blind country blues woman Terri Gibbs, Becky Hobbs who sounds interesting, and Barbara Mandrell's younger sister Louise):

http://www.the9513.com/forgotten-artists-ten-from-the-80s-pt-1/

Also, a 9513 discussion on whether EPs (like the new one Blake Shelton just put out last week) are a good idea. (I think they're cute, myself):

http://www.the9513.com/your-take-to-ep-or-not-to-ep/

Roughstock blog on University of Rochester a capella group making a same-sex crush Taylor Swift parody video:

http://www.roughstock.com/blog/a-cappella-group-from-university-of-rochester-parody-taylor-swift

Kevin Coyne* from Country Universe on Little Big Town's "Little White Church," which I haven't heard yet ("A few more records like Laura Bell Bundy’s and this one, and country radio just might get interesting again.") He also has a piece on there called "The Success of Taylor Swift is Not a Moral Issue," which isn't as entertaining as its title:

http://www.countryuniverse.net/2010/02/25/single-review-little-big-town-little-white-church/

* -- Not to be confused with eccentric British singer Kevin Coyne, recently discussed on the Rolling Hard Rock Thread

xhuxk, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, no idea why I'm even still bothering with this thread anymore (just obsessive compulsive I guess), but Frank asked about B.J. Thomas up above, so I pulled out Everybody's Out Of Town again, and B.J.'s still standing all alone on the cover like me on this thread most of the time, and by far the most uncompromised soul track is his cover of Jr. Walker and the All Stars' "What Does It Take." Don't hear any tracks having more than a tinge of country; you'd think that might not've mattered in the age of Glen Campbell, but apparently B.J. didn't chart country until 1975, when "(Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song" went #1. This album was just '70. Fave tracks are "What Does It Take," and the first two, Nilsson's (actually Fred Neil's) "Everybody's Talkin'" and the comparably existential Bacharach-David title cut. He also does one Mann-Weil (plus "Bridge Over Troubled Water," who cares.) Best song title is "Send My Picture To Scranton, PA," another Bacharach/David, which is really ornate and almost show-tuney -- seemingly with some fancy time signatures that'd put over the revenge of the former class geek returning to Scranton to show all his old classmates he's a big deal now story better if they were less fancy.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, no idea why I'm even still bothering with this thread anymore

Don't give up! I'm still enjoying reading your posts, though I haven't had the time to offer any thoughts of my own lately.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ditto.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

At any rate, don't give up while you're talking about B.J. Thomas, because I'm kind of interested in B.J. Thomas talk and you have me curious about "Send My Picture to Scranton, PA" now; plus I didn't know specifically that he was the one who did some of those songs. I can be very hazy about 70s pop artist IDs since it was all just a transistor radio blur at the time.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe everyone else already knows this, but i just learned today that ke$ha's mom, pebe sebert, is a nashville songwriter of some renown (and an ex-punk singer). her biggest claim to fame, besides the three songs she co-wrote on her daughter's album, is "old flames can't hold a candle to you," a kinda sorta country version of "in my life" that dolly parton took to #1 country in 1980 and that has also been done by johnny and june carter cash and merle haggard among many others. i'm liking it quite a bit, particularly the johnny & june version.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Re: Brooks & Dunn collabo w/ Third Day

I'm not surprised at this, something like "I Believe" by B & D could easily be played on christian hit radio, I think, and a lot of christian rock bands seem to play a mix of 80's AOR & post-grunge

And judging by a performance by some american idol finalist I heard on the last Grand Ole Opry show, Creed is being metastasized into the country sound

lukevalentine, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Also related: Emerson Drive & Wynona covering the christian power ballad "I Can Only Imagine"

lukevalentine, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

My short Rhapsody review of the new Drive-By Truckers album:

http://www.rhapsody.com/thedrivebytruckers/the-big-to-do#albumreview

Some other points of interest about the record: (1) Patterson's "The Fourth Night of My Drinking" is partially similar to America's "Horse With No Name" (the line "first night of my drinking" sounds like "first part of the journey"); (2) second DBTs album in a row with a sad Cooley song about a birthday; (3) Patterson's song about a guy with a shitty job is followed immediately by Cooley's song about a guy with no job; (4) Patterson has called it the band's most rocking album since the second disc of Southern Rock Opera, which I'm not sure I agree with for reasons explained in that review, but I like it more than any album they've done in a long while regardless; (5) still wish their definition of "rocking" hadn't shifted so decisively from "Skynyrd" to "Crazy Horse" along the way; (6) Shonna's two songs -- a draggy Lucinda-style codeine-country lament and a way lighter thing possibly aiming for Motown pop -- are easily the two least lyrically specific and most expendable tracks; (7) I didn't mention "After The Scene Dies" in that review partly because I couldn't think of a word or two that means "the time of the night when the club shuts down and everybody goes home and the equipment gets packed up and the lights get turned off." Best I could come up with was "loudout," like in the Jackson Browne song. But does anybody ever actually call it that in real life?

xhuxk, Saturday, 20 March 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

No idea why I just called Patterson and Shonna by first names and Cooley (who I actually did a short interview with yesterday) by his last.

In other country news, Blaine Larsen's "Chillin'" sounded better over the car radio (just felt basically...very chill) on a lovely spring Austin SXSW evening than I'd have guessed. (Probably helps that country radio sounds so bleh lately, which makes it stick out more.)

And I noticed a song or two on the Dropkick Murphys' latest live St. Patrick's Day album where the guitars almost actually struck me as more "American country" than "Irish folk," if that interests anybody.

xhuxk, Saturday, 20 March 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I just listened to my old man's copy of "Flowers On the Wall: The Essential Statler Brothers"

They've always been his favorite group, I've always dismissed them as cornpone & maudlin

but, I gotta say I'm been pleasantly surprised. The arrangement of "I Still Miss Someone" is better than Johnny's, "Shenandoah" is really pretty, "Flowers on the Wall" is a classic country tune

Good harmonies too, I think they must have really changed after the 60's when their lead singer died of Crohn's disease & they sang corny songs about 50's nostalgia

lukevalentine, Sunday, 21 March 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Cum On Feel The Texas Two-Step

Found this from Marcello Carlin on a Popular thread from '07:

Noddy talked about the rhythmic "innovations" on the Radcliffe show a while back; he ascribed Slade's "shuffle" to blurred childhood memories of Bob Wills' Texas two-step, halved in speed and right-angled in pronunciation (or something like that; basically Slade's beats are accentuated differently – I think on every third bar as opposed to to the 1-3 of reggae or the 2-4 of rock – and the triplets themselves are divided up erratically JUST LIKE TONY OXLEY), and the Military Two-Step.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link

First charting version of "Old Flames Can't Hold A Candle To You," by Joe Sun. According to BMI it's been done by the Staples Singers, but in a quick Websearch I couldn't find a stream. Also couldn't find a stream of the version by Hugh Moffat, co-writer, formerly married to Pebe. (According to Wikip he's co-written an opera.) Good song, anyway. Here's a live version by Brenda Doiron, whom I've never heard of, done as an old-style wailer.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 07:39 (fourteen years ago) link

John Morthland, in his essential Best of Country Music, mentions a Joe Sun Best of on Warner Brothers. Gives it a good nod, but I've never been able to find much of his stuff. Used to have the 45 of "Old Flames" but can't seem to find it.

jetfan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Statlers are pretty dope.

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 21 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Have myself barely even dabbled in Joe South (who I suspect I'd like, given his soul-country reputation) or the Statler Brothers (have a best-of LP around here somewhere -- almost definitely purchased after loving "Flowers On The Wall" on 1994's Pulp Fiction soundtrack.) I'll shift the latter to the play pile, and it'll come up eventually.

Did put on B.J. Thomas's Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head today, though, and I'd say it has an even more pronounced soul vocal influence than Everybody's Out Of Town, which charted just four months later (May to January 1970) but 60 spaces lower (#72 to #12) on Billboard's pop album chart. I'd say Raindrops is at least the marginally more consistently playable of the two albums, too, and maybe shows slightly more country influence as well, though only at the point (i.e., opener "Little Green Apples" and closer "Suspicious Minds") where country and soul merge. Still didn't hit the country chart, though; seems odd they wouldn't at least attempt to market him that way, given that Glen Campbell had had seven #1 country albums in the previous three years, and B.J. doesn't sound all that far from him to me. Maybe he just didn't have the right look. (The LP cover photos, all three of which of which picture him with some long-haired brunette, almost look like a kind of ironic bohemian nostalgia for the Gay '90s or thereabouts. Which I gather may have been a popular look for hipster college boys at the time, at least in popular culture if not on actual campuses; '60s pop-rock bands frequently did something similar right?)

Playing Barbara Mandrell's 1977 Best Of on Columbia right now; earlier and maybe less r&b-infused stuff than on the later best-of LP I talked about upthread, though she does cover "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man" on it. Also Roy Head's 1965 Texas boogie-woogie rock smash "Treat Her Right," redone as "Treat Him Right," which makes less sense addressed to a woman (as Mandrell does) than to a man. You can hear why hip people probably thought of Mandrell's covers as square variety-show-type whitewashes; she definitely Pat Boones them, to a certain extent.

LP still has a few great cuts, though -- "The Midnight Oil" is even kind of filthy: She stays after work at the office to give the boss "a helping hand," and later she'll feel "kinda dirty 'cause I'll have that midnight oil all over me," wtf? If Peter Garrett knew what the midnight oil was, would he have named his band that? Anyway, that's the start of Side Two; Side One starts with a great doomed end-of-the-affair cheating song called "Scarlet Water," where they're gonna "sip the scarlet water one more time." Which water may be midnight oil, too.

xhuxk, Sunday, 21 March 2010 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Hank Thompson Smoky The Bar from 1969 -- okay, this is a great album. Mostly honky tonk more than the after-the-fact Western Swing/ boogie-woogie people say he was known for, though there are definitely more than hints of the latter (especially in "Let's Get Drunk And Be Somebody," which title he beat Toby Keith to by several decades and which has a nifty alliterative part about "a gushing goblet goads my ghostly gloom", and "Cocaine Blues," where he shoots his philandering woman down then goes fugitive after snorting some snow). Some of the drinking songs -- "Pop A Top," "What Made Milwaukee Famous (Has Made A Loser Out Of Me)," "Bright Lights And Blonde Haired Women," Jimmie Rodgers's "My Rough And Rowdy Ways" -- are probably more famous by other people, though I'm usually not sure who; "Drunkard's Blues" updates (and quotes) "St . James' Infirmary" and sounds like a goth jazz dirge. "Smoky The Bar" is a joke pun about smokey bars; "I See Them Everywhere" is a joke about seeing pink elephants and other crazy creatures crawling up the walls; "Girl In The Night" is about a sad beauty who soaks in the nightlife every night to kill some past pain the singer hasn't yet figured out (popular theme in glam rock songs a few years later seems to me); "New Records On The Jukebox" hopes somebody will play them because all the old ones choke him up too much.

Weirdest (and maybe the dumbest) song is probably "Ace In The Hole," which is done as a corny showtune cabaret music-hallish number (if that's not a contradiction) and concerns how hippies are lazy and unclean and have friends on the welfare line. (Maybe it's a parody? I get the idea there's some older "Ace In The Hole" song it's based on, but not sure I've ever heard the original tune.) Most of the songs are tragic, but hardly any of them are slow, and most have a beat. Also, Hank's voice sounds surprisingly gentle, somehow, even when he's rowdy.

Followed it up with Buck Owens and the Buckaroos' I've Got A Tiger By The Tail from 1965, which might have as much energy, at least when the tempos pick up, and definitely has a sense of humor (it's right there in Buck's chuckle and drawl obviously, but also all through songs like the title track and "Wham Bam," where he promises not to stick around and get sucked in by some girl -- wish he was comical more and sappy less, actually.) Plus he covers "Streets Of Laredo" and Chuck Berry's "Memphis." But I think Hank Thompson still puts over way more personality, somehow, and I like his album a lot more. The Buck is still real good, though. A dozen songs, all but one under 3 minutes, and two under two, like a hardcore punk LP; might actually qualify as an EP, Pazz-and-Jop-wise. (Question for future research: What was the relationship between the Bakersfield sound and rockabilly, exactly?)

Both albums have long liner notes, too; when did that tradition end, anyway? (Thompson's call him "the Poet Laurette of Beer Drinkers"!)

xhuxk, Monday, 22 March 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually I think Thompson's gentleness amid the rowdiness might be part of his Western Swing legacy -- I've often found the sweetness of Tommy Duncan's vocals on Bob Wills & Texas Playboys records disconcerting, since it seems to cut into the energy, somehow; it's blasphemy, but I think they might have been even better with somebody rougher sounding on the mic. But Thompson somehow manages to sound sweet and rowdy at the same time, which is a neat trick. (Actually, a trick that Toby Keith can pull off himself pretty well at times; maybe he's a fan.) Or at least Thompson does it on this LP; by the one I got from just five years later, Movin' On, he seems to have lost a lot of his oomph.

Gotta say though, between the two albums I mention above, Thompson is way funnier than Buck Owens, too. But I got three mid '60s Buck LPs for 25 cents each at a garage sale last month, so maybe listening to the other two will change my mind. (Btw, was Buck the first current country guy it was considered cool for hip rock kids to like? Evidence being: the Beatles covering his song and Creedence dropping his name.)

xhuxk, Monday, 22 March 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Speaking of the Statlers--there's a new Dailey & Vincent album of Statler Brothers covers.

President Keyes, Monday, 22 March 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Got Ricky Skaggs's Don't Cheat In Our Hometown, from 1983, in that same batch of 25-cent garage sale country LPs. Supposed to be one of Skaggs's worthy albums of his post-indie-folk-label-purist '80s Nashville sellout period (or at least one of four Christgau gave a B+ too); doesn't have anything that grabs me as immediately as "Highway 40 Blues" or "Heatbroke" from '82's Highways And Heartaches, but it's still solid. Favorite track might be "She's More To Be Pitied," another one of those sad women wasting her life away in beer halls songs (see Hank Thompson's "Girl In The Night"), except Skaggs makes it more like a church sermon than Thompson would. He's pretty much a goody-goody in general -- doesn't do his women wrong, but they do him wrong, and when they do he just begs that they don't do it in his hometown, apparently since then his neighbors will realize he's a cuckold. That's actually a really good song, too. He's not raunchy enough for Mel Tillis's "Honey (Open That Door)" (which I think was a hit), but it's catchy. Best other stuff is reborn old songs -- traditional gospel bible-story-counting hymn "Children Go"; Bill Monroe's "Uncle Pen"; Stanley Brothers' "Vision of Mother," gloom about Mama's ghost sung as a duet with Dolly Parton. She's on another track, too; Albert Lee plays guitar on a bunch; and Skaggs knows how to shape his own acoustic and fiddle and mandolin chops into hooky hitbound tunes in general, which as far as I can tell is an extreme rarity for a bluegrass guy -- in fact, give or take the Dixie Chicks if they count, has anybody done it better over the past three decades? This album and Highways And Heartaches never stumble into mere show-off crap. But there's still a bluegrassish squeaky-clean-ness that I have trouble getting behind.

xhuxk, Monday, 22 March 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

saw jamey johnson last night, it was an interesting show. he's weird onstage, sort of diffident except that he's the guy with the microphone. played 2 1/2 hours straight, no breaks or encores. his choice of covers was reverential (jennings and jones, obv, along with keith whitley) and a little combative ("long-haired country boy," hank jr's "dinosaur"). like he's not quite sure what ground there is for outlaw country these days. there were lots of cheers and yee-haws whenever he mentioned pot (or "cocaine and a whore"), but i had the feeling he could've gotten the same response if he'd decided to call obama a socialist or something. not that i think he wants to do that, i sort of doubt it, but that was definitely the crowd.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 22 March 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

(it was a sold-out show, fwiw. the men were all bald pates, buzzcuts or ballcaps. women were suburban shag-cut and corn-fed.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 22 March 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Over on poptimists I'm talking to Jeff about Lady Antebellum if anyone wants to join in and speak more knowledgeably than I can of the last forty years of country-MOR-AC interplay. (I tap Air Supply as a Lady Antebellum touchstone, but no doubt there are country bands that are at least as relevant.)

I said this on my own lj about my disappointment with "American Honey":

Lady Antebellum "American Honey": Nostalgia for childhood, lost promise, a lost country, a lost world. Should be better (Miranda Lambert would give this bite, and smarter words), but is passable; I'd like it more if it didn't shrink next to the great Antebellum weeper that's still riding high. BORDERLINE NONTICK.

Xhuxk, Gretchen Wilson's version of "The Midnight Oil" was easily my favorite thing on the Mandrell tribute LP from a couple of years ago. I like that Gretchen did it without bawling or wailing, is matter of fact and lets words and steel guitars do the crying. I was dumb not to hunt down the Mandrell version, so maybe I'll try.

You've definitely got me interested in Hank Thompson.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

And this is what I said about "Hillbilly Bone":

Blake Shelton ft. Trace Adkins "Hillbilly Bone": The rhythm section gives us good bubbling soul-funk, with Blake and Trace up top with a deep reduced drawl that highlights the groove but is a waste of two fine singers, and of the groove. NO TICK.

Definitely meant to blurb it (and Love And Theft's "Dancing In Circles" and Gary Allan's "Today") for the Singles Jukebox, which included it today in its country Monday, but I fell asleep last night instead. I'd have brought down the average; I like Xhuxk pointing out the Bubbah buh-buh-buh stuff, and I hear how they're having fun, but it's tired fun by the time it hits my ears (and though I was just as pissed with "Ala-Freakin-Bama," it grabbed me and tickled me despite my pissy mood).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's an alternate take of Elvis's "T.R.O.U.B.L.E.," which is the only stream of it I could quickly find online (Google unfortunately isn't distinguishing between this and the Lieber-Stoller "Trouble" that Elvis did in '58 and then again in '68 for his comeback special).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Gonna link to these Singles Jukebox reviews directly, since Frank only linked to the site itself (which already isn't country at the top.)

Blake Shelton & Trace Adkins "Hillbilly Bone"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2085

Gary Allan "Today"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2087

Love & Theft "Dancing In Circles

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2086

As for Frank's Lady Antebellum/Air Supply connection, I'm not sure how much I hear that, though then again I've never listened to Air Supply all that much, so I wouldn't necessarily know. Need to give it more thought. To me, they're as much rooted in recent commercial rock of, say, the Matchbox 20 school as in any Adult Contemporary of three or four decades ago. Or at least they were on their debut; haven't really gotten a bead on the new album (though radio play on sunny days had defnitely led me to grow to like "American Honey" way more than Frank does, and by now I'm pretty burnt out on "Need You Now" -- still agree it's better than the current single, but not that much better.) Anyway, here's what I wrote about their first album a couple years ago:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/05/lady-antebellum-helps-country-get-its-grunge-on.html

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

More on the country EP front (see Blake Shelton's one a few weeks ago), via email:

Multi-platinum and Grammy-nominated Country singer/songwriter JO DEE MESSINA will release her first new material in six years on April 27 with the first in a trilogy of EPs to be issued throughout the year. The initial installment, “Unmistakable: Love”--a nine-track release comprising seven new songs and two live acoustic cuts--will be followed later this year by “Unmistakable: Drive” and “Unmistakable: Inspiration.”

Also, Laura Bell Bundy's debut album, due out April 13 on Mercury, is basically two EPs (which as far as I know aren't being released separately, though it would make a lot of sense if they were). Whole thing is called Achin' & Shakin', "Achin'" being the six slow emotional ballads it starts with (none of which have much hit me yet, though "Curse The Bed" and "Homecoming Queen" have promising titles) and "Shakin'" being the six fast dance songs it ends with (which almost definitely qualify as my favorite half album of new music so far this year; I might like "Rebound," "Boyfriend?," and "If You Want My Love" even more than the single, "Giddy On Up," which I like a lot.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, maybe this isn't news to some people, but I just noticed that Blake Shelton's Hillbilly Bone EP is presently at #10 on The Billboard 200 album chart, after entering at #3 next week. Also, Justin Bieber's My World EP is at #11. Wondering now if that makes Blake's thing the highest charting EP in Billboard history. Bieber's apparently peaked at #6; Honeydrippers' Volume One got to #4 in 1984; David Lee Roth's Crazy From The Heat to #15 in 1985; U2's Under A Blood Red Sky just to #28 in 1983; Ugly Kid Joe's As Ugly As They Wanna Be (supposedly the first EP ever certified multi-platinum) to #4 in 1992...oh wait, Mariah Carey's MTV Unplugged EP got to #3 in 1992, so Blake ties that one. Anything obvious I'm not thinking of? (Of course, whether these are technically all EPs by Pazz & Jop standards -- i.e., under 25 minutes -- is another question. And no doubt some '60s albums that are that short yet were never called EPs at the time charted higher.) (Billboard is saying Lady Gaga's The Fame Monster EP got to #5 last fall, but I'm skeptical, given that her double album containing the album + the EP has the same name.) (Oops, apparently a Miley Cyrus EP I never heard of called The Time Of Our Lives -- digital only maybe?? -- got to #2. So never mind. Reminds me that Taylor Swift has had a few too; not gonna check those.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

"...entered at #3 last week...", I meant about Shelton, obv.

Three more charting country songs I should try to hear (been totally negligent on still not checking out the first one yet):

40 48 2 Little White Church, Little Big Town
W.Kirkpatrick,Little Big Town (K.Fairchild,W.Kirkpatrick,K.Schalpman,P.Sweet,J.Westbrook )
Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 40

53 54 2 Jenny, The Harters
K.Stegall (M.Harter,L.Harter,S.Harter,D.Malloy,B.Irby )
Bigger Picture DIGITAL | 53

54 1 Groovy Little Summer Song, James Otto
J.Otto,P.Worley (J.Otto,A.Anderson,C.Chamberlain )
Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WMN | 54

xhuxk, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

This is the most bizarre thing I've read in a good long while. But I haven't watched country videos regularly in a few months so I don't know if something has changed. However, I don't recall pedal-pumping or anything remotely associated with it ever in all the country videos with trucks in them, or sexy girls doing something. Maybe I just filtered it out.

Anyway, I just thought Jesse James was a shithead biker from reality TV, not some average example:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-21/the-red-state-sex-fetish/

Note it's written by the equiv of a coke-bottle glasses-wearing blue state nerd girl with bad hair. And no tattoos on her forehead. I couldn't quite make it to page 2, the first was all I needed.

Gorge, Friday, 26 March 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

xp "Little White Church" by Little Big Town = handclapping holy-roller gospel stomp with blues-rock guitars ensuring power then jolting you awake, minor keys and whispered asides about silver-tongued devils adding drama, words demanding if you like it you better put a ring on it (no huggin no kissin -- well no having his baby, actually, which is weird -- til she gets a wedding ring), all in three minutes. Very nice.

Jenny" by The Harters = Opening guitar chords are straight out of Collective Soul's "Shine". And I keep thinking the band is called the Haters; harmonizing two-boy/one-girl (so, post-Antebellum) trio from Arizona. Lyrics concern a rebel boy in trouble with the law and a good girl (how come it's never the other way around? good boys never meet bad girls?) taking the open road against her Sheriff Daddy's wishes, and the harmonies get the open road feeling right, not too unlike Love & Theft in "Runaway" last year. Though I keep expecting them to rob a Texaco clean outside of Abeline, or Billie Joe (not his real name) to shoot a man while robbing his castle, or something, and they never do.

"Groovy Little Summer Song" by James Otto -- heartily deep-sung blue-eyed-soul yacht-rock country for shagging at the clambake. At least as summery as Blaine Larsen's groovy little summer "Chillin'" song, and I like the vocal here better. What Uncle Kracker wishes he sounded like.

xhuxk, Friday, 26 March 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Also (after looking at George's link), I should note that the Harters song does not stipulate whether Jenny is driving, and if so, whether her six-inch sequinned white-satin stiletto sandals are flooring the gas pedal. In a video on youtube, though (can't tell if it's official), the girl in the group does have long legs and cowboy boots, however.

xhuxk, Friday, 26 March 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Still trying to investigate Mac McAnally, whose album on Toby Keith's Show Dog label was one of my preferred country records last year, and who I talked about otherwise on Rolling Country 2009. Have picked up three old used records for a $1 each or so in the past year. Newest one I have is Finish Lines from 1988, clearly his attempt at an '80s AC/AOR move, seemingly inspired by Don Henley solo LPs like End of The Innocence (except that didn't come out until '89, so who else, David & David maybe?), with a similar slickly produced straining toward making cloudy but cynical statements about Reagonomics and whatnot. Basically, I'm on the fence about it. Favorite track is probably "Hush Money", I guess for its Zevon/Stan Ridgway-style private investigator intrigue. "Remote Control" has a good Diddley beat. Other songs about feeling like an alien and noting how America forces competition on us, plus history and science metaphors for, uh, something. (Not sure what pill "Little Blue Pill" is supposed to be about; did that even exist yet in 1988? Not gonna Google it to try to find out, that's for sure.)

xhuxk, Friday, 26 March 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i can never not read his name the way you imagine I'm reading it

forksclovetofu, Friday, 26 March 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it apropos to mention a 2009 comp of stuff recorded between 1967 and 1976 here? I picked up Plantation Gold: The Mad Genius of Shelby S. Singleton Jr. and PLantation/SSS Records about a month ago and just put it on. It's pretty cool: story songs very much in the style of "Harper Valley PTA," included of course. They have a gimmicky side but I'm really enjoying the sound of it: comfortable playing, roomy-enough production that's very of its time, a hint of reverb on the vocals, and sometimes Tijuana-ish brass. (And the truly unfortunate "Harper Valley CIA" by Ray "Wong" Riley.) I have to imagine the folks who review country reissues regularly know this already.

Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Let me ask: how is this stuff considered among country cognescenti? I'm leaning toward a mix of "slight but enjoyable" and "snapshot of era," myself.

Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, OK, a bit more into this and yeah, it's a ton of soundalikes and gimmicks and novelty. Still interesting as a funhouse view of its period, though.

Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Monday, 29 March 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

We write about old records and reissues all the time, so there's no reason you shouldn't. Stick around.

Got back from a Seder too late to review Kenny Chesney's "Ain't Back Yet" for Rolling Country. Would've given it an 8 or so, kicks hard while still treading lightly.

Poptimists is starting theme orgafuns, the first one being "Best Songs About Women Getting Violent And/Or Creative Revenge On Men!." You only get one nominee but you can list and link all you want. So far country is dominating the show.

On a related note, I'm in an interesting convo over on one of Tom's Tumblrs with a woman named Petra on the subject of how angry songs by women are perceived and not perceived (convo inspired by a horrendously bad trend piece in the Guardian). (I suppose that "horrendously bad trend piece" is a redundancy.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, if I understood correctly, there's going to be a country poll tomorrow at Poptimists. (That's the general site link; I'll post a specific one when it appears.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Frank likes that new Chesney single way more than I do (though it's conceivable I've been underrating it.) Some Jukebox review roundups:

Kenny Chesney "Ain't Back Yet"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2134

Tim McGraw "Still"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2135

Miranda Lambert "The House That Built Me"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2111

xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

still unhappy i didn't post my blurb for the lambert; really like that song a lot.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's that Poptimists country poll I was telling you about.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Been liking (not loving, but liking enough to play it a bunch of times) this new white blues album on Alligator, The Devil Is An Angel Too, by Janiva Magness, who I never heard of before. Includes covers of songs by Ann Peebles ("I'm Gonna Tear Your Playhouse Down," which I've always thought of as Graham Parker though apparently Paul Young did it too), Joe Tex ("I Want To Do Everything For You"), Nick Lowe ("Homewrecker," never heard it before), Tift Merritt ("Your Love Made a U-Turn," written by a McClinton who may or may not be Delbert), Strong-Whitfield-Penzabene ("End Of Our Road," apparently previously done by Marvin Gaye and Gladys Knight), and Jeff Barry ("Walkin' In The Sun," apparently previously done by Glen Campbell), so maybe what I'm liking is that it's as much a soul (or soul-country) album as a blues album. Maybe somebody else can figure out where the other songs came from; lots of different credits. Some warm melodic guitar parts too, and she saves the one torch/lounge schlocker 'til the end, so I don't mind much.

http://www.myspace.com/janivamagness

http://www.janivamagness.com/

xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Caramanica calls Gary Allan's Get Off On The Pain "the best country album of the year so far" in the NYTimes. I disagree - I'd definitely take Chely Wright, Laura Bell Bundy, and Merle Haggard over it (and Legendary Shack Shakers and Drive By-Truckers, if those count as country, and Slim Cessna's Auto Club, if it counts as country and doesn't count as a reissue); almost definitely prefer Ray Wylie Hubbard and Josh Turner, too, and maybe Willie Nelson, Elizabeth Cook, Lady Antebellum, and even uh Shooter Jennings -- none of which I'd even much recommend, at least so far -- as well.) (Some of which are admittedly not out yet, so maybe they don't fit under the category "so far.") But his blurb will probably inspire me to give Gary Allan one more chance:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/arts/music/04play.html

He makes me curious about Marvin Sapp, too; been on a bit of a gospel kick lately, since Spin asked me to do an Essentials column on the genre, but I know even less about recent gospel than I do about old gospel. Have been liking the three-disc late '09 archival compilation Fire In My Bones: Raw + Rare + Otherworldly African-American Gospel (1944-2007) (Tompkins Square) a whole lot this month, though.

xhuxk, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

along those lines:
what would you guys say are the best country releases of Q1 2010?

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the Easton Corbin debut a lot. It's pretty much a top notch George Strait album--you can take that as a criticism or a recommendation depending on taste.

President Keyes, Sunday, 4 April 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

My favorite so far this year is the new Alan Jackson. There's a simplicity to it, a reining-in after his more sprawling, showy last album, that I enjoy a lot.

erasingclouds, Sunday, 4 April 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't hear too much country while lying low for Lent, but I did enjoy Blake Shelton's EP and Josh Turner's concept album about what an awesome husband and father he is.

Also good is the Carolina Chocolate Drops' Genuine Negro Jig, which is getting love over on the "What's Worth Listening To in 2010?" thread. It got reviewed on the 9513, so it counts here. I hadn't heard of them before. They're a black Appalachian string trio on Nonesuch, and the first six songs are fast and fun. They can play, but they're not bloodlessly virtuosic like some bluegrass. They all three sing and trade off on banjos, fiddles, jugs, bones, and whatnot. They also cover "Hit 'Em Up Style," which totally fits in the context of all the old-timey stuff. Second half isn't as interesting, but there's still a couple good barn dance numbers, enough to recommend it overall. The liner notes, like the music, are cheerfully low-key re the impressive amount of research that must have gone into this. Seems more like fun than school.

Also, re this upthread: saw jamey johnson last night, it was an interesting show. he's weird onstage, sort of diffident except that he's the guy with the microphone. Totally--I saw him last summer at the fair, and I think his only onstage patter was the spoken sections of "Give It Away." At one point he raised a cup of beer to the audience, who cheered. His show wasn't that long because he was the opening act, and his only cover was "The Door Is Always Open," but the crowd loved him and man, his band is great. (The sound was great too.) On those slow waltzes, it sounded like he and the drummer were daring one another to see who could go slower, and the pedal steel player generally got to space out at the end of every song.

dr. phil, Monday, 5 April 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I reviewed the Carolina Chocolate Drops awhile back live for the Washington Post. They did a fun show, but I haven't heard the newish cd yet. And yes they have researched the history of black banjo and fiddle players thoroughly and have gone and met and played with surviving old-timers, while still staying aware of current music in other genres.

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i interviewed them all a time or two; they're real bright people. New disc is great, the title song is awesome. They were obscenely well received in NYC at Bowery; the crowd was crazy into it.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 5 April 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Easton Corbin album left me cold; haven't heard the new Alan Jackson but I'm thinking I usually prefer him when he's less simple (unless Alison Krauss helping him get jazzy counts as simple, which I doubt) so I'm kinda skeptical; listening to Carolina Chocolate Drops on Rhapsody now (lined up in front of new Ted Leo and Titus Andronicus, neither of which I expect to like but I'm going to give them the old college rock try) and thinking they pull off the energy of Mississippi Shieks (or whoever) rhythm more than the energy of Mississippi Shieks or whoever vocals -- overall they sound, well, schooled, yeah.

There's something lackadaisical about the singing that's not grabbing me -- in Depression years, this music had a lot more wildass in it.
Bet they were Arrested Development fans, once upon a time (if they're old enough.) But that doesn't mean I won't like the album. Heard their Blu Cantrell cover; thinking it comes off more adult-alternative Middle Eastern worldbeat than any era of string-band. Not that that's a horrible thing; just not convinced that the song melds with their sound in any way. Some of the more instrumental passages ("Snowden's Jig" on now for instance) strike me arty chamber group that might, say, play in the foyer of your local suburban library; something Penguin Cafe Orchestra about that one. Which again, isn't awful. My wife heard them on NPR and said they reminded her of the Squirrel Nut Zippers, though, ick. "Why Don't You Do Right" now; tasteful torch nostalgia, not buying the schtick but I can't say the girl's voice is entirely devoid of warmth. Might like them more if they just schtuck to their main style. (Actually, you know who their eclecticism reminds me of? The Duhks.)

Matt Cibula listed these '09 albums he's liked on another thread last night; sounds like at least a couple might have some country in them. (Okay, maybe not the Czech guys; I wouldn't know, but I'm intrigued. I think Don Allred -- where is he lately anyway? -- tried to make a case once for Gogol Bordello counting as country, and their new album is starting to grow on me, though at first I thought it was just more of the same -- in the second half, they get into Latin rhythms, cool):

Traband, Domasa (Venerable Czech nutjobs, rollicking Romany rockin')
Brandon Wright, Boiling Point (fun & funky jazz, post-boppery but with an edge)
Big Light, Animals in Bloom (file under power-pop alt.country new wave jam band, but better than that sounds)
Anne McCue, Broken Promise Land (Aussie blues singer/guitarist, compare to Wilson sisters)
Pie Eyed Pete, Lake County All Star (I think he's like Ike Reilly's next door neighbor, good Midwestern songs)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"strike me as an arty chamber group that might..." etc. (Guess the operable adjective for Chocolate Drops is "middlebrow." Not a word I'd apply to, say, the Memphis Jug Band. Definitely prefer the fast songs to the slow ones, either way. "Kissin' And Cussin'" on now, its chorus inexplicably reminding me of "Muskrat Love" by America/Captain and Tenille, except the Chocolate Drops are trying in vain to make it feel "dark." Now "Sandy Boys" -- a cover, I'm betting? How many of their songs are public domain? -- where at least they're kind of doing the vocals as rhythm to go along with the strings. Has a decent bounce to it; think I wrote in my Duhks/Donna The Buffalo/Old Crow Medicine Show roundup in the Voice that these sorts of quasi old-timey bands should do that more often. And now "Reynadine," which takes us to the Renaissance Faire, but the girl's voice isn't quite lovely enough.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

No problem at all calling them "country," though -- they're as country as the Duhks etc. are country.

And oops, meant those albums Cibula listed are '10, not '09. (He should post more about them here!)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

re: drops - Dom is more a showman than a singer and Justin is only a bit better but Rhiannon is operatically trained and fully capable of carrying any of these. Her inflection is, I grant you, very specific and may not be for everyone.
The only song on the new album that anyone on the band wrote (as opposed to arranged) is Kissin' and Cussin'.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Also didn't mean to disparge Ted Leo & Titus Andronicus (neither of whom might have any country in their music, being from New Jersey, but whatever); if I had something against them, I wouldn't be trying out their albums. And actually, I don't expect to dislike them as much as I expect to find them both potentially interesting but not compelling enough that I'll want to expend much more energy trying to figure then out. (Which is pretty much being confirmed with Leo's album, which is on right now. I know he's supposed to be very political and all, but I can almost never understand why while actually listening to him. For such an intense and committed guy, he's quite the mushmouth. And he never sounds half as much like Thin Lizzy or Joe Jackson as I wish. I really liked "Timorous Me" back on The Tyranny of Distance nine years ago, though. And on the new album, "Bottled In Cork" seems to be an okay touring song and there was one goofy part in an earlier song where Ted yelled out that the means of production are now in the hands of the workers; wasn't sure if he was trying to be funny or not. And the guitars work up a decent jangle now and then. But nothing's making me feel I need to hear it again, and on track #10 out of 13 I'm getting impatient. At least there are a couple fast songs. Maybe I'd like him more if I liked the Jam more. But they were better than him, too.)

Okay, track #11, "Tuberculoids Arrive At the Hop" -- this one has some British folk to its acoustic guitars (which I like -- song itself is pretty dull, but the guitars are really good). Not country, but close. (Just didn't want everybody to think I totally derailed the thread.) (Cut after that, "Gimme The Wire," Ted's rhythm section finally wakes up! And they stay awake for the last song, "Last Days," which seems to have something to do with people claiming the end is near. It's hard to figure out what, but I don't mind much thanks to the "My Sharona" riff.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

The Drops are so NPR it's not even funny. But hey, I gave money to NPR. I forget what the "R" stands for in Jody Rosen's DORF matrix, but they definitely qualify for the "Dead" and "Old" quadrants. Based on their repertoire, of course, not their actual status as human beings. (The DORF matrix explains which black musicians get NPR play.)

Does anyone else subscribe to Josh Turner's theory that homosexuals are loveless aliens?
I wouldn't be a man if I didn't feel like this
I wouldn't be a man if a woman like you
Was anything I could resist
I'd have to be from another planet
Where love doesn't exist

He's like a scientist!

dr. phil, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

My 600-character Rhapsody mini-reviews of new albums by Laura Bell Bundy:

http://www.rhapsody.com/laura-bell-bundy/achin-and-shakin#albumreview

And Peter Wolf (which has a lot of alt-ish country on it, though not much in the songs I actually like):

http://www.rhapsody.com/peter-wolf/midnight-souvenirs#albumreview

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Second heat of the Poptimists 2000-2005 country poll has now started. "Portland Oregon" is leading "Kerosene" by two ticks, which pisses me off, but I ticked both so I shouldn't gripe. "Before He Cheats" won heat one, and "Goodbye Earl," "I Love This Bar," "Alcohol," and "Hotel Yorba" all qualified.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

John, I don't have anything to strongly recommend that you don't know about through Jukebox except that I second Xhuxk's thumbs up for Laura Bell Bundy's "Giddy On Up"; and Jaron And The Long Road To Love's "Pray For You" made me laugh out loud as a send-up of pious forgive-your-enemies sentiments. Jaron has the right reedy voice for it, and I think he might have potential even when he's not joking (assuming that's ever; I've only heard this track).

On the basis of "Bring On The Love," I think Coldwater Jane is worth exploring more; song is a good half-rocker, and the women sing with half-husky voices, will have you rocking in your seat though you'll probably forget about it as soon as it's over. Jason Sturgeon sounds like a poor man's Eric Church on "Simple Life"; the song is no great shakes as a vaguely Mellencampish semi-rocker, but he was strong enough to pique my interest. The tune to Brandi Carlile's "Dying Day" reminds me a bit of "Wild World," which is a compliment, though it would be more of a compliment if the tune reminded me more of "Wild World" and if she didn't fall so heavily into her rich voice. Worth following up to find what else she does with that voice; she's been singing folk and alt country for years with respectable reviews without my hearing her, or, if I have heard her, without my remembering. Interesting that I heard this on a country radio promo compilation, since I can't imagine her ever actually crossing to country radio.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Taylor Swift and Mallary Hope sing a karaoke "Gunpowder And Lead" at a Nashville Christmas party. Taylor sounds totally natural with it, Mallary not bad but trying to figure out which chops to apply, while Taylor just lets the Miranda style take her. Makes hand motions to illustrate the lyrics. Is wearing a black glitter dress.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

In-studio vid for Little Big Town's "Little White Church." Good stompin' little stomp. I'd categorize it as Willingly Abstaining From Sex Until The Guy Marries Her Already, which means it's not really eligible for the latest poptimists orgafunnery, which calls for songs on the theme of Willingly Abstaining From Sex And/Or Relationships Until You Find True Love Or A Decent Man/Woman Or Somesuch. (Surprisingly, I could only think of one, "Past, Present and Future" by the Shangri-Las. Surely there must be country songs that qualify.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Intocable's latest, "Estamos en Algo," moves from dramatic accordion flourishes, to what I'll inadequately call "soul," to something resembling ska with gang shouts in the background, to a groovy beat that resembles "Ode to Billy Joe", I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJF3g4M7IXc

But that's not why I bring it up here. No, I mention it because my mother-in-law, a wonderful woman who's fluent in Spanish but not a native speaker, said it was "too country" for her, and she prefers her Spanish music to come from Spain. Plus, hasn't Cibula made the case for Intocable as a country band before?

Anyway, the lyrics are weird. "Estamos en algo" strictly translates as "we are in something," which is either an idiom I don't know or Cartesian poetry. Here's the verse:

Si no estas
Pensando en mí
No estas en nada
Pero yo
Pensando estoy
En tu mirada

Y si estas
Pensando en mí
Estas en algo
Yo por verte
Este día
Se me hace largo

Doesn't it just LOOK beautiful on the page? I think the gist is that our existence is proven when we think of one another, maybe because thinking leads to longing, and longing lets us know we're alive. But I could be reading too much into it.

dr. phil, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

(Sorry, I meant to just post the link.)

dr. phil, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i will hunt those down Frank, thx.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I forget what the "R" stands for in Jody Rosen's DORF matrix,

Retro I think...NPR likes Black musicians that are Dead, Old, Retro, or Foreign

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Josh, I love that Intocable song. I'll need to listen to more.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 9 April 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, me too. And Matt Cibula definitely has called Intocable country before. (Speaking of Cibula, he may be happy to know that my new favorite new non-reissue album of 2010 is Domasa by the Czech prog/goof/rock band Traband, which he recommended -- and not only for the blatant Dylan and Neil Diamond steals, though that's part of it.)

xhuxk, Friday, 9 April 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Also loving Intocable's "Hay Ojitos," which I heard on the radio over the weekend. (Finally settled on a Regional Mexican station to pre-set in the car. Not sure why it took me over a year in Texas to do that.) Youtube posting dates suggest the song's from late last year, though I could be wrong about that. Be sure to check out the highly entertaining video, which features skimpily dressed women, guns, and a cock fight.

xhuxk, Monday, 12 April 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Caramanica on Laura Bell Bundy's album (scroll down). He prefers the slow half, which is nuts, but at least we agree "Curse The Bed" is the best slow song. Was not aware that the ballads were "produced and written in large part by Nathan Chapman, the behind-the-scenes architect of Taylor Swift’s sound."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/arts/music/12choi.html

xhuxk, Monday, 12 April 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

My haiku-length Rhapsody reviews of new Colt Ford (liked this a lot more than I expected, btw, but have still yet to determine how much):

http://www.rhapsody.com/colt-ford/chicken-and-biscuits#albumreview

And new Legendary Shack Shakers:

http://www.rhapsody.com/legendary-shack-shakers/agridustrial#albumreview

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

By the way, Wiki writes this about Colt Ford's debut album, which I still haven't heard and never heard of until a few days ago, but which actually apparently went to #24 on the country chart two years ago: "Ford's debut album also has guest appearances from country singer Jamey Johnson, as well as Bone Crusher and Jermaine Dupri, and Jeremy Popoff of Lit." Bone Crusher behind a 300-pound crunk rapper from Atlanta, for those unaware. A guy at roughstock.com compared the album to Bubba Sparxxx. Also from Wiki: "He also appeared on a rap remix of Montgomery Gentry's late-2008 Number One single 'Roll with Me.'"

And speaking of previous albums that I never knew existed, I also learned recently that, on Laura Bell Bundy's self-released debut album a couple years ago, she covered "Dancing With Myself" by Generation X/Billy Idol. (There are videos of her doing the song live on youtube.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Bone Crusher being...," I meant. (I thought Colt Ford's new album was closer to Cowboy Troy than to Bubba Sparxxx, for what it's worth, but maybe with Kid Rock's taste for hard rock riffs -- or okay, Jason Aldean's taste for hard rock riffs, at least -- and maybe a little rapping that hip-hop fans might not dismiss as completely corny.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

rap remix of Montgomery Gentry's late-2008 Number One single 'Roll with Me.'"

This is hearable on youtube, too, and Colt's flow is more like Bubba than Troy in the remix, so I'm guessing they consciously tried to make him more "country" and less "rap" -- hence, less threatening to country fans -- on the new album (his fourth, technically -- second studio one and a live one both charted in the 40s on the country chart last year.) He also does "Roll With Me" live with MG on a couple videos on youtube, but the sound's not good on either. He's definitely a big boy, though.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Aspiring country singer-songwriter and tenth-place Nashville Star finisher Justin Gaston attempts "If I Can Dream" as a guest on American Idol (to help promote some other Simon Fuller-produced reality show he's on). He's anonymous but nicely gentle on the soft bits at the start, is inadequate to the strong emoting he tries for later, achieves some sparks in the last minute in back and forth with his duet partner, who's effectively emotional as always and is the reason I listened.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Colt Ford had a brief guest spot on Bone Crusher's funk-rap "Round" three years ago (shows up about 3 minutes in). Here are "Mr. Goodtime," "Ain't No Trash In My Trailer," "Ride Through The Country, and "Cold Beer," the four singles from his first album Ride Through The Country. I think he's best when the arrangements don't overrun his voice (so "Mr. Goodtime" and "Ride Through The Country"). Xhuxk's right about the Bubba Sparxxx drawl. Album rose higher on the rap chart (#12) than the country (#24), though those two charts probably aren't analogous (rap being much more a specialty chart, as opposed to "r&b/hip-hop").

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Jon Caramanica (who I got the opportunity to debate Laura Bell Bundy sides with in Seattle this weeked) on the new Merle Haggard album (which he underrates) and new Willie Nelson album (which I haven't decided what I think of yet -- leaning toward well sung, well selected old songs, but otherwise just another pointless album add to the Willie pile who cares, but I may be wrong about "pointless" and "who cares"):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/19/arts/music/19choi.html

My own Haggard review is written but not on line yet.

Also got to spend some time over the weekend talking to University of Wisconsin PhD in history candidate Charles Hughes (who is doing is dissertation on the relationship between country and soul music in the '60s and '70s, and who did a super informative EMP presentation about how FDR's Rural Electrification Act changed music in the '30s) and Kansas City English professor and Heartaches By Number: Country Music's 500 Greatest Singles co-author David Cantwell (whose presentation on log cabin songs of the '20s was also excellent) -- two really nice guys who I'd never met before. Here's the blog they share:

http://livinginstereo.com/

xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/04/18/academy-of-country-music-awards-2010-carrie-underwood-wins-entertainer-of-the-year/

Here’s a complete list of the winners at the 45th Annual Academy of Country Music Awards:

ENTERTAINER OF THE YEAR: Carrie Underwood

TOP MALE VOCALIST OF THE YEAR: Brad Paisley

TOP FEMALE VOCALIST OF THE YEAR: Miranda Lambert

TOP VOCAL GROUP OF THE YEAR: Lady Antebellum

TOP VOCAL DUO OF THE YEAR: Brooks & Dunn

TOP NEW ARTIST OF THE YEAR: Luke Bryan

ALBUM OF THE YEAR: “Revolution” - Miranda Lambert

SINGLE RECORD OF THE YEAR “Need You Now”- Lady Antebellum

SONG OF THE YEAR: “Need You Now” - Lady Antebellum

VIDEO OF THE YEAR: “White Liar”– Miranda Lambert

TRIPLE CROWN AWARD: Carrie Underwood

HUMANITARIAN AWARD: Montgomery Gentry

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

The show kicked off with a performance by Miranda Lambert and Underwood in which the women were joined by fiddler Charlie Daniels, Brad Paisley and John Fogerty. “That’s how you start a television show, son,” Daniels said at the end of the number.

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

HUMANITARIAN AWARD: Montgomery Gentry

This is pretty funny. Maybe they got it for not killing any more domesticated black bears this year?

xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

HEY! Some people change.

dr. phil, Monday, 19 April 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Incidentally, Mom-in-Law checked with an ESL student and reported back on "Estamos en Algo":

"Estamos en algo" means there is a connection between us. And "Se me hace largo" means that it seams like a long time (since we were together). Makes more sense.

Just to recap: "we are in something" = "there is a connection between us". I love that. Just got the CD from the library, so I'll report back at some point.

dr. phil, Monday, 19 April 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

now get me a confirm on watagatapitusberry

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm a little more country than THAT.

dr. phil, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

(consults urbandictionary, throws drink in forksclovetofu's face, eagerly looks up song on youtube)

dr. phil, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

kekekeke

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

My emusic Merle Haggard review (scroll down):

http://www.emusic.com/album/Merle-Haggard-I-Am-What-I-Am-MP3-Download/11911349.html

Listened to the imminent Dierks Bentley album Up On The Ridge this morning and...I dunno. trad bluegrass move, feels kind of clinical and stiff but then most trad bluegrass moves do, to me. Guests: Alison Krauss, Chris Thile (of Nickel Creek), Vince Gill, Del McCoury, Kris Kristofferson, plus Miranda Lambert and Jamey Johnson on the same song, which didn't jump out at me the first time. Dierks covers "Pride (In The Name Of Love)," interesting because I've definitely heard U2 in his guitar sound before and because it's about MLK, maybe a mildly brave statement in the Obama age (at least people thought so when Brad Paisley made his MLK statement), but I'm skeptical. Also covers a Buddy & Julie Miler song, plus Dylan's "Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power)" (from Street Legal, an album I've never actually heard); potential sympathy-with-immigrants/anti-globalism statement maybe? Though I'm conjecturing that just from its title, no idea about the song itself.

Leaning toward deciding the new Elizabeth Cook album only has one song I really care about ("El Camino"). New Bill Kirchen album has less.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Water vs Rain neck-and-neck on Country Songs chart this week:

19 24 25 14 Water, Brad Paisley
F.Rogers (B.Paisley,C.DuBois,K.Lovelace )
Arista Nashville DIGITAL | 19
20 22 23 15 Rain Is A Good Thing, Luke Bryan
J.Stevens (L.Bryan,D.Davidson )
Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 20

Vaguely curious about these, for their song titles mainly:

50 46 41 16 Jackson Hole, James Wesley
D.Frizsell,R.Clawson (R.Clawson,M.Criswell )
Broken Bow DIGITAL | 41
52 NEW 1 Pound Sign (#?*!), Kevin Fowler
D.L.Murphy (D.L.Murphy,J.Collins,T.Martin )
Lyric Street PROMO SINGLE | 52
57 NEW 1 Hard Hat And A Hammer, Alan Jackson
K.Stegall (A.Jackson )
Arista Nashville DIGITAL | 57

xhuxk, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Me on the new Shelby Lynne album (which I liked more than I would have guessed, though I doubt I'll be returning to it much):

http://www.emusic.com/album/Shelby-Lynne-Tears-Lies-And-Alibis-MP3-Download/11900277.html

xhuxk, Friday, 23 April 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmm...(No idea what this single is, but still).

60 NEW 1 Here Comes Summer, LoCash Cowboys
J.Steele (J.Steele,S.Minor,C.Lucas,P.Brust )
Stroudavarious PROMO SINGLE | 60

Country album chart this week is more interesting, though:

8 NEW 1 Chicken & Biscuits, Colt Ford
Average Joe's 216 | 14.98 8
62 53 67 20 Live From The Suwannee River Jam, Colt Ford
Average Joe's 214 | 14.98 45
67 56 63 26 Country Is As Country Does, Colt Ford
Average Joe's 212 | 13.98 CD/DVD 41

Rap album chart, meanwhile:

4 NEW 1 Chicken & Biscuits, Colt Ford
Average Joe's 216 | 14.98 4

Working on something longer about the guy; stay tuned.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 April 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Liking this album too, actually:

27 NEW 1 High In The Rockies: A Live Album, Jason Boland & The Stragglers
Proud Souls/Apex 7060385 | ThirtyTigers | 12.98 27

xhuxk, Friday, 30 April 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Chuck wrote upthread:

revenge songs seemingly directed at the same guy who maybe dumped her and she sounds very pissed about it, the former a simple primal perhaps Miranda Lambert-inspired stomp, the latter more shimmering Suzanne Vega/Amy Grant '90s pop sung in a little voice since Chely's "that little voice inside your head" reminding you "you can get away with treating people like shit" -- direct and unguarded emotion, these two

Was the song gender-specific about who was dumping her? According to TMZ, Chely comes out as a lesbian (or as the TMZ URL says, a "gay lesbian country singer") this Wednesday in People.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/02/chely-wright-gay-lesbian-country-singer-coming-out-people-magazine-today-show

Jennifer Knapp, a singer-songwriter who was big in Contemporary Christian Music in the late '90s/early '00s and then abruptly walked away from her career, came out early this year and will resume performing. I'd never heard of her until two weeks ago, when Anthony Easton brought her up on my livejournal. I like the one song I've heard by her, her CCM hit "Undo Me." She's got an Alanis gargle, but without Alanis's gratingness. I should listen to more. Should also listen to more Chely Wright for that matter, since I only really know "Single White Female" and "Bumper Of My SUV" and the two or three tracks by her that were on her MySpace when we were talking about her last year (or was it the year before?). I quite like "Single White Female."

My not-well-informed impression is that evangelical Christianity is a lot less united on this issue than it'd been a couple of decades ago, younger evangelicals less likely to understand why Jesus would want them not to be gay or would want them to discriminate against gays.

(This takes us even further from country music, but I highly recommend Jonathan Bogart's long Tumblr post regarding his Christian rock childhood. While I'm on the subject, my current favorite teengothpop Contemporary Christian Music singer is Krystal Meyers, my favorite song of hers being "Beautiful Tonight.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 2 May 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Frank, I was just reading *Real Punks...* just like five minutes ago and noticed you posted to this thread. So I thought I'd say hello!

Mordy, Sunday, 2 May 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Was the song gender-specific about who was dumping her?

"Damn Liar" no; "Object Of Your Rejection" no. (Just checked the lyric sheet.) So I may well have been presumptuous about their being directed at "some guy." Think I do note some gender-confusion in regards to the song "Like Me" upthread, but I stupidly figured the conflicted person she was singing about was male, not female: "Who's gonna end up holding your hand? A beautiful woman or a tall handsome man?" At any rate, I like how she timed her coming-out to coincide with the album release.

Btw, if anybody's interested, I've played the new Mindy McCready album (I'm Still Here on indie Iconic Records) and new Joe Dee Messina EP (Unmistakable: Love on Curb) one time each, and nothing much has hit me, although a couple of Joe Dee's songs seemed catchy. (Hers mostly seem to be long-successful-marriage songs, as far as I can tell.)

xhuxk, Monday, 3 May 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Wright is the first major country artist ever to come out.

What, k.d. lang doesn't count? Though I have no idea when her coming-out happened in relation to her temporary country stardom. Or maybe she doesn't count as "major," though it's not like Chely Wright has had a ton of huge hits herself.

This is a big deal in the country world. Chely is rolling the dice on her career ... it's unclear how traditionally-conservative country fans will react.

Well, given that she hasn't had a single hit the country Top 40 since 2004 or the country top 20 since 1999, it's unlikely that country fans, conservative or otherwise, would've been racing to stores to buy her new album anyway. Maybe now more will. (Maybe the book will help, too.)

xhuxk, Monday, 3 May 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, I've been listening to lots of old albums this weekend. To wit:

Statler Brothers The Best Of (Mercury 1975): Lukevalentine brought them up upthread, and I was curious so I pulled this off. Great album, really interesting. I should probably read more about them one of these days, but I get the idea that their harmonies often shake out somewhere in between gospel jubilee and barbershop (Four Freshmen? how would I know?), maybe with occasional hints of doo-wop; they switch voices line-by-line/pitch-to-pitch alot, like doo-woppers (and, later, old-school rappers) did; the bassman voice often hits me as ridiculous, which might be intentional (were bassmen supposed to be funny, by definition?), or may be a generational thing. What's definitely a generational thing is that four songs out of 11 are list songs, all wondering or bemoaning lost days of yore -- movie stars in "Whatever Happened To Randolph Scott," early baby-boom/post-war/mostly-early-'50s pop-culture fads in "Do You Remember These" (kinda reminds of of Robert Klein's 1973 comedy album Child Of The '50s, especially since there's nothing especially rural about what the Statlers are remembering); classmates who went on to do all sorts of things (including one who kills himself and one who winds up in a mental hospital) in "The Class of '57"; a couple's old photo-album pictures (hence sort of a precursor to Jamey Jonhnson's "In Color") in "Pictures" -- and, especially in the movie star song (which actually calls Hollywood "the industry") and the pop fad song, there are tons of references I don't get at all, and not only because these guys race through their lists really fast. Those kind of songs are clearly precursors to the Bellamy Brothers too (think their "Old Hippie" songs), as probably are the Statlers' humor, and their harmonies. Favorite two other songs are "New York City" (the woman a guy got pregnant goes to NYC and has her baby who the guy apparently never meets and the kid grows up thinking the dad's a real louse and the guy doesn't seem to argue the issue) and, of course, "Flowers On The Wall," which I still can't tell whether it's sung form the point of view of a guy who's cracking up or just a really lonely slacker in denial. (For people who don't know it, he stays up all night playing solitaire with a incomplete deck, and smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo and counting flowers on the wall.) The rest of the songs are mostly good, too; "Susan When She Tried" is kind of weird, because you never quite figure out "when she tried" what -- to leave the singer heartbroken, I guess. Also, 10 of 11 songs -- all but "Flowers" -- are either credited or co-credited to one "D. Reid."

Hank Thompson A Six Pack To Go (Capitol 1966) Another really good one by this guy, maybe not quite up there with Smoky The Bar, but close. On the cover he's pictured six times, on six cans of beer; album subtitle is "...and the Brazos Valley Boys with a program of their beer-drinkin' hits." So that's pretty much what the songs are about obviously, though each side has an instumental polka in the middle ("Beer Barrel" and "Bartenders.") Two songs, "The Wild Side Of Life" and "Anybody's Girl," like "Girls In The Night" on that other album, are about women who make the sad decision to live their lives in bars, often leaving a better life behind. As do the guys, but they usually get funnier songs. Though Hank does do his "St. James Infimary"-styled "Drunkard's Blues" here again. And there's maybe a Western Swingish tint fairly often, but nothing I'd call Western Swing per se'.

Buck Owens The Best Of (Capitol 1964) Has "Act Naturally," which is immortal, but otherwise I'm still not getting what's supposed to be so awesome about him. He always sounds okay, a real distinctive singer, but he always sings more or less the same, and rarely excites me or pulls me in. Part of me thinks he just didn't have Grade A material; or maybe I'd be less bored if he was more rockabilly. Presents kind of a sad-sack persona, but never makes me laugh much. But maybe somebody else can explain what I'm missing. (I've always liked his '88 "Streets Of Bakersfield" with Dwight Yoakam and Flaco Jiminez, if that helps.)

xhuxk, Monday, 3 May 2010 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, Sylvia's Just Syliva from 1981; posted some notes on it here yesterday:

(vintage) country-disco

xhuxk, Monday, 3 May 2010 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, just checked Wiki; sez the Statler Bros "named themselves after a brand of facial tissue (they have joked that they could have turned out to be the Kleenex Brothers[2]). Don Reid sings lead and is the younger brother of Harold Reid, who sings bass. The other members are baritone Phil Balsley and tenor Jimmy Fortune, who replaced original Statler Lew DeWitt in the early 1980s due to the latter's ill health...The band's style is closely linked to its gospel roots. Harold Reid said of the group's style 'We took gospel harmonies and put them over in country music'." Dewitt is the guy who wrote "Flowers on The Wall," and co-wrote a couple other of the hits on the best-of album, which apparently runs from 1965 to 1974. "Sissy, a #75 hit in '68, didn't make the cut.

xhuxk, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Lots of typos in that first long Statlers spiel; still halfway comprehensible regardless, I hope.

Oh yeah, also meant to mention Charlie Rich's Rollin' With The Flow from 1977 -- finally, a Charlie album I don't absolutely love! Do love the title track though, which is amazing -- super easy rolling #1 C&W hit about watching everybody else your age mature while you manage not to, for better or worse. (Apparently Mark Chesnutt covered it a few years ago, though I've never heard his version.) Rest of the Rich album though is mostly string-soaked Billy Sherrill sapsucker-ballad mush that reminds me why so many people hated countrypolitan so much; not unlistenable, just ignorable. Only possible warmblooded exceptions I could pinpoint might be "Somebody Wrote That Song For Me" and "Night Talk," both also on Side One with the title cut, which both remind me that the distance between late '70s/early '80s countrypolitan and smooth jazz and quiet storm r&b probably wasn't always so great. Which is cool, and I'd hang onto the LP for the title song alone, but still.

xhuxk, Monday, 3 May 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

The Statler Brothers were my dad's favorite group, probably because he had a deep voice and liked to sing the the bassman's lines.

President Keyes, Monday, 3 May 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Film review in the NY Times this morning about some documentary about the mountain-dancing, murdering, pill-popping White family of West Virginia; says that, after a TV movie about Jesco White in 1991, lots of country songs were written about him. I remember him being name-dropped in a song on Big N Rich's second album, but that's it. Never heard of him before that; had to look him up. So, what other songs?

Which also makes me wonder whether any great country songs are being written now about Nashville's great devastating flood of 2010. Seems like archetypal country subject matter, and if the Ryman and Dierks Bentley's houses are all wet then it's clearly hitting close to home. Maybe even some good economics puns about houses being underwater are in order. Assuming that's not too depressing a country topic these days.

Meanwhile, Singles Jukebox multi-reviews of songs by...

Drive-By Truckers

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2212

And Mallary Hope

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2254

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

As far as older Country goes, does anyone know anything about a guy named Lee Clayton? Looks like he played w/ a lot of the Highwaymen and wrote one of my absolute favorite tunes "If You Could Touch Her At All" which was done by both Willie and Waylon. Allmusic says he put out a couple of albums in the early 70's, but all I can find on Youtube are these kind of terrible sounding Dylan ripoffs. Did he do any straight up country albums?

Moreno, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Wright is the first major country artist ever to come out.
What, k.d. lang doesn't count? Though I have no idea when her coming-out happened in relation to her temporary country stardom. Or maybe she doesn't count as "major," though it's not like Chely Wright has had a ton of huge hits herself.

or what about kristen hall, founding member of sugarland? not sure if she ever specifically came out inasmuch as i'm not sure she ever was in the closet in the first place. but does she count?

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I just now posted on the comment thread to those Jukebox reviews that Chuck linked of Mallary Hope's "Blossom In The Dust" (which I don't like as much as Martina McBride's "Wild Rebel Rose," speaking of Rose's in the dust). I basically agree with Jonathan Bogart's and Michaelangelo's social critique of the song, it just doesn't make me dislike the song in the way it made them.

Jonathan elaborates on his thoughts over on his Tumblr - says his first impulse had been to give the song a 10.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 6 May 2010 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I rather like it tho' it starts out so much like Fifteen I'm still often confused when it plays.

i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 May 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I still love it, despite almost as many reservations as anybody else. Just added a comment to that thread.

Jon Caramanica on Chely Wright, Mindy McCready, and moonlighting Dixie Chicks the Court Yard Hounds, and what they're all up against:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/arts/music/06country.html

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 May 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Hi Mordy!

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

er, you belong to me, not fifteen.

i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Via email:

KE$HA ANNOUNCES NASHVILLE FLOOD BENEFIT CONCERT ON JUNE 16TH
( New York - NY) - Global pop superstar singer/songwriter and Nashville native and resident Ke$ha has announced a flood benefit concert on June 16th at Limelight in Nashville , which is located at 201 Woodland Street . Tickets go on sale on May 6th at 5pm CST and are available starting at $30 at http://bit.ly/Kesha4Nashville.
Says Ke$ha, “I'm thrilled to announce that I will be playing a show to help benefit Nashville , my hometown. 100% of the profits from ticket sales will go to help the victims of these devastating floods. Nashville helped shape me as an artist and as a person and my love for this city is beyond words. I will continue to do anything I can to help rebuild this city and support the families and animals who have been affected by this tragedy."

I keep forgetting that Ke$ha's from there. Could well bode well for the future of country music. A duet with Colt Ford would be cool. (He's apparently a big fan of his daughter's Lady Gaga album.)

By the way, to answer Moreno's question above, I don't think I've ever heard Lee Clayton. He apparently never put an album on the country chart, and is mentioned only once in Bob Allen's Recorded Country Music, as having written a song (unnamed in the book) for Jerry Jeff Walker. You've apparently checked AMG; I haven't, but I do have the AMG Country print edition, and the entry for him in there seems to suggest that his 1978 album Border Country is more country, less rock than '79's Naked Child. Not sure whether that corresponds with what AMG now has on line or not, though I'm guessing it does. (Also says his most famous song was "Ladies Love Outlaws," for Waylon.)

Haven't mentioned that I've been sort obsessed with C.W. McCall lately, especially now that Colt Ford covered "Convoy." Have a Greatest Hits LP, plus Wilderness from '76, the latter of which went to #9 on the country chart, with two Top 40 country singles ("Crispy Critters" about a town taken over by hippies who look like shaggy dogs and the narrator can't stand #32, "There Won't Be No Country Music {There Won't Be No Rock'n'Roll}" about a country destroyed by polluting corporations #19) even though almost nothing on the album was actually sung -- almost all talk-rhymed like "Convoy" was, though there are movie-music jig instrumentals ("Telluride Breakdown"), a very rap-like but brief 35-second poem about McCall's cat done only to Jews Harp accompaniment ("Roy"), Dylan-like talking blues done in a blackface voice ("Silver Iodine Blues," about fake snow), and enough string bombast for a Meat Loaf LP. Almost all the songs, as the title suggests, are about being in the backwoods, specifically the snowy northern prairie west (also songs called "Jackson Hole," which I like a lot, and "Columbine" {!!} in addition to the Telluride one -- btw, I also like James Wesley's different, currently chart-climbing country ballad "Jackson Hole," about being stood up at a ski resort in the dead of winter.) "Riverside Slide" is another good, gruff one. Makes me wonder whether more "Western" country hit in the '70s, also to what extent ecology was a popular country song subject at the time (John Denver scored on both counts, right? Never liked him much myself); also whether McCall was the most consistently rappy country star ever -- Charlie Daniels talked a lot too, obviously, and there must be other guys I'm not thinking of.

Joel Whitburn: "Born William Fries on 11/15/28. The character 'C.W. McCall' was created for the Mertz Bread Company. Fries was an advertising man. Elected mayor of Ouray, Colorado in the early '80s." In "Crispy Critters," fwiw, "the mayor was a space cadet." Interesting that McCall hated (or pretended to hate?) hippies so much when I always had the idea hippies were at the forefront of the '70s environment movement that McCall clearly latches onto. (John Denver must have had a certain post-hippie following to some extent, right?) Though more likely, especially given the "long-haired friends of Jesus in the chartreuse microbus" in "Convoy," McCall just thought they were funny.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 May 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh, "backwoods" might be wrong -- maybe I just mean "mountains"? (Upper prairie west is one of the parts of the country that I've barely set foot in, so I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. My wife said Jackson Hole, Wyoming's the coldest place she's ever been, though.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 May 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

And Jerry Reed was definitely another guy who may have talk-rhymed as often as he sang (though I'd guess his balance wasn't tipped as overwhelmingly toward the former as McCall's was.) Commander Cody too, maybe? And obviously they're all part of country tradition that dates back at least to the white country blues of the late '20s/early '30s.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

And lots of trucker songs are part of that tradition too, obviously. (I've never heard much Red Sovine -- get the idea he might have talked a lot, too.) AMG seems to suggest that trucker songs are mostly what C.W. McCall did, and there are a few on the albums I have, but I wouldn't say they're the main thing. (Have never heard '75's Wolf Creek Pass, which has "Old Folk Home Filler-Up An' Keep On Truckin' Cafe," which he apparently wrote for the bread company and won a Clio Award with, or '76's Black Bear Road, which has "Convoy.") AMG also says McCall had a fine arts bachelor's degree from University of Iowa, and was a graphic designer who worked as art director for an Omaha ad agency in the early '60s -- so basically, he was a Mad Man, albeit not on Madison Ave. And not surprisingly, the environment was his pet issue when he when he went into small-town Colorado politics.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

And btw, also checked out "Here Comes Summer" by LoCash Cowboys (which entered the country chart at #60 last week) a couple days ago; seemed passable, just your usual innocuous and forgettable forced fun, but they looked like they might potentially be interesting, if only because they (they'e a duo) dress pretty goofy (maybe supposed to look like "party guys" or something? hard to tell -- lots of rips in their jeans and weird headwear) and they claim to be influenced in part by Justin Timberlake and '80s r&b as well as c&w; album (not yet out I don't think) is said to have touches of country rap. Of course, all of that stuff could also add up to horribleness; time will tell, I guess.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh, "backwoods" might be wrong -- maybe I just mean "mountains"? (Upper prairie west is one of the parts of the country that I've barely set foot in, so I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. My wife said Jackson Hole, Wyoming's the coldest place she's ever been, though.)

Well, I'd think "upper prairie west" would be defined by the absence of both woods and mountains (with not much in the way of hills, either), though often you'll get some mountains in the background, in case you're wondering what way west is and the sky is overcast so you can't judge by the sun (though allegedly the skies are not cloudy all day, so this may not be a problem).

Frank Kogan, Friday, 7 May 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oops, good point. I think I meant "Prairie" as a region, or even a time zone, though, not a terrain feature. Which might not make sense, since the time zone is Mountain Standard Time, not Prairie Central Time, but whatever. (McCall doesn't actually use the word himself, I don't think. Definitely seems to spend a good deal of time in high elevations.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 May 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it worth spending the eight bucks on the new Hag album? I just heard the title tune on YouTube and it's ehhh.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 May 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I need to listen to it again, so take this with a grain of salt, but his voice bothered me on the new one. He sounds like he's been screaming at a football game and has lost both ends of his range. Listening actually caused me some psychosomatic discomfort in my own throat. So if you value his mellifluous sonorities above all, you might be disappointed. Tunes seemed pretty solid, though--like I said, I need to listen again.

dr. phil, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

And weirdly enough, this scratchy, compressed-range quality has never bothered me with recent Dylan, maybe because I don't have the same expectations with him. And incidentally, Ke$ha says in Rolling Stone that "Nashville Skyline" is her favorite album OF ALL TIME.

dr. phil, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Weirdly (and I posted a link to my emusic review on this thread within the past couple weeks), Haggard's newly haggard voice didn't really bother me much, though I tend to find, say, recent Dylan extremely hard to listen to and recent Randy Newman unbearable. I like the album, and like its title track. Wouldn't call it my favorite country album of the year anymore, but it's up in the top four or five at least. But Alfred asked whether it's worth paying $8 for, and truth is I can't remember the last time I paid that much for any album. So I'm probably not the one to ask. At any rate, I'd rank it below Hag's Like Never Before from 2003, but not necessarily below If I Could Only Fly from 2000, which lots of people loved, but I never thought was so amazing beyond "Wishing All These Old Things Were New." Does that help?

The new country album I've been loving this week is Well After Awhile by Shinyribs, the alias of Kevin Russell, who is apparently in the Gourds, who oddly enough never did a thing for me (though I probably only tried a couple of their albums, maybe not the right ones.) At any rate, here he's doing a very funky Leon Russell/Dr. John kinda country soul thing, ten mostly smart songs that stick with me -- my favorites so far being "Country Cool" and "Poor People's Store." Also does okay by a cover of "Change Is Gonna Come" by Sam Cooke at album's end Based in Austin; I should probably catch him live sometime. His MySpace:

http://www.myspace.com/shinyribs

xhuxk, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, three newly charting songs maybe worth investigating:

56 59 2 While You're Still Young, Montgomery Gentry
M.Knox (J.Collins,T.Martin,W.Mobley )
Columbia PROMO SINGLE | 56
57 1 Summer Thing, Troy Olsen
T.Olsen (T.Olsen,B.Hayslip,J.Yeary )
EMI Nashville PROMO SINGLE | 57
58 NEW 1 Wildflower, The JaneDear Girls
J.Rich (S.Brown,V.McGehe,J.S.Stover )
Reprise PROMO SINGLE | WMN | 58

xhuxk, Monday, 10 May 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Saw the Felice Brothers this weekend and really enjoyed it. Never got into their albums much, but they bring it for the live show. They've got a fiddle/washboard player and a guy on the keyboard and accordian so I feel safe posting this on a Country thread... though they seem closer to Dylan w/ the Band Basement Tapes era. They bring a nice drunken, punk enthusiasm to the songs live that doesn't translate as well on their albums.

Thanks for the response re: Lee Clayton xhuxk. Gonna keep my eyes out for Boarder Country.

Moreno, Monday, 10 May 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Over on poptimists, Mark Sinker asks us which musiccrit-type writers we'd point an intelligent outsider towards. So far I'm the only one who's answered, so you guys might want to add some pointers. Also has a question about music movies, which some people did join me in answering. This Is Spinal Tap seems to be a favorite.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

By the way, has anyone heard from Edd? Wondering if the flooding had any impact on him. (I have no idea if he lives near to or far from the water.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't care much for If I Could Only Fly either (I'll add "Bareback" to the keeper pile, along with "Wishing All These Old Things Were New." But as of yesterday morning I found on used copies of the new one. Thanks, guys.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 May 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Re: Merle Haggard's new one. I find it really enjoyable, though at first I was itching to file it in that johnny cash template of aging country singer sings about mortality. Difference is probably that he's still writing solid songs, and his singing is relaxed in a way I enjoy, not overly serious. Still don't love the album as a whole but I do enjoy it.

erasingclouds, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, here's the piece I wrote about it, for what it's worth - http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/123964-merle-haggard-i-am-what-i-am

And if I'm posting links to my own stuff I figure I'll mention I've starting trading off months with another writer on a country-music column for popmatters. I wrote two so far, one on Toby Keith (on the idea of his 'arrogance' and the way it works within his music) and one that went up today about Taylor Swift, sort of stemming from seeing her live last month, and using that as a jumping off point to write about all sorts of things.

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/121185-the-arrogance-of-toby-keith/
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/124985-things-will-change-what-taylor-swift-represents

erasingclouds, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice job, Dave!

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 May 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I think some of us on a previous year's RC thread agreed that Merle's usually good on every other album, and I don't remember the one just before this, so dunno what to expect (except even approving reviews make it seem pretty run of the mill).Nobody hates it, apparently which might or might not be a good sign (might be just okay for apathetic acceptance, like a lotta) But I'm sure I'll check it out. Meanwhile, somebody enjoyed a Felice Bros show upthread, and here's a a preview I recently wrote, that might indicate some of their appeal (mad telegraphy, but mad word limit too)

The Felice Brothers
Wednesday @ Rumba Café

On Yonder Is the Clock and Mix Tape, the young Felice Brothers follow Dylan and the Band's rural Basement Tapes quest in reverse, back to the city of dinosaur dreams. Echoing through subway hayrides, they cheer trains bound for Heaven and everywhere else, while moodily and shamelessly waltzing around the "Ambulance Man." He's patient, but the Felice Brothers know he doesn't have all day. Equally vivid is "Boy From Lawrence County," whom they know they could track (if they knew you'd pay), because "He's a friend of mine."

dow, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

From the same column, a Canadian folkie with some coutry appeal, especially in her best material (Also, was Alanis's pre-debut-album voice teacher)

Lynn Miles was recently spotted on YouTube, leafing through lyrics that list all the things she's tired of, ending with "singer/songwriters." Ho-ho, she knows she's in that game for life, as her steady voice gets deeper and darker, especially on full-bodied, country-tinged coffin-thumpers like "I Give Up." On Live at the Chapel, Miles shifts into bruised cruise control for "Night Drive" and "You Don't Love Me Anymore," a wised-up kissin' cousin to the Eagles' best ballads. Meanwhile, "Black Flowers" bloom so beautifully, as coal dust settles on their petals.

dow, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Welcome back into the fold, Don! (Now if only somebody could corral Edd.) And Dave, thanks for linking to those posts; they're really good!

Mentioned Jason Boland and the Stragglers' live High In The Rockies on here last week; very useful document by a tireless Texas road band, recorded in the uh, upper mountain west (Colorado and Wyoming) in January. Fell for their "Comal County Blue," about driving into Austin's night to get away from the rural hardscrabble life, in its studio version on the radio here last year. And for almost the first half of the live album, nothing else much comes close to it -- decent sour-grapes opener about how Hank wouldn't be a star in cookie-cutter Nashville now, cover of Don Williams/Clapton's "Tulsa Time," pretty good rejoinder to a girl with her head in the clouds in "Down Here On Earth," alcoholic song Jamey Johnson could cover called "Bottle By My Bed," all likeable but surrounded by fairly pro-forma stuff. But track 11, cover of a great Tom Russell bordertown rooster-fighting song called "Gallo Del Cielo" I'd never heard of before (in fact, I've barely heard Russell period), things finally kick into gear, and for the next three songs you can really tell you're hearing a working band: tornado-attacking-yokels number called "Blowing Through The Hills" that I could imagine the Legendary Shack Shakers doing except Boland can sing and they can't, "Time In Hell" about soldiers overseas waiting to come home, weird existential country thing called "Jesus And Ruger" that says napalm and Islam mean something to somebody. Boland and the band more or less keep it up for the rest of the album, too; they cover Merle's "Rainbow Stew" and end with a jamming "Outlaw Band," cool. Anyway, here are a couple links, for anybody who might be interested:

http://www.myspace.com/jasonbolandthestragglers

http://www.thestragglers.com/

I've also been getting re-obsessed with current Southern Soul these past couple days, including a Mississippi guy named Luther Lackey who's definitely got some country in his sound. Been binging on what I can hear at Rhapsody. And I talk about it a lot, starting right about here:

Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for the kind words on my articles, I appreciate that. Re: Tom Russell's "Gallo del Cielo" - I'm a big fan of Joe Ely's version of that song, on his Letter to Laredo album (his tex-mex, border-themed album). I like how he sings it better than Russell, though really it's the writing, the story-telling, that makes the song. I'll have to check out the Boland version.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Huh, wasn't aware Ely had done the song; I should check that out. Pretty much stopped paying attention to him after the mid '80s, though I liked last year's Flatlanders album okay, and I posted this about 1984's much-maligned techno-rock move Hi Res a couple months ago:

(vintage) country-disco

Also doesn't surprise me that Ely would sing it better than Russell, going by what little I've heard by Tom (which was, like, one or two albums a long time ago.) He basically has no singing voice at all, right? Which is a shame, because as I recall, he can really write songs.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, here's me stretching out a little re: Colt Ford, in this week's Voice:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-11/music/colt-ford-renaissance-man/

And (scroll down) Caramanica on Colt Ford in the NYT a couple days ago. (I knew the “Heeeeyyyyy, we want some countryyyyyy!” chant came from somewhere, but couldn't place it; Jon says it's from 2 Live Crew):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/arts/music/09play.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Chuck, don't tell me you're unfamiliar with 2Live's HEYYYYYY WE WANT SOME PUUUUSSSSYYYYY"?

₣õ®₭§©₤¤∵釰ƒü (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I am! But like I said, I just couldn't place it. (I don't have any 2 Live Crew LPs, though "Banned In The U.S.A." did stupidly make my Pazz & Jop singles list the year it came out. Assume their earlier stuff -- most likely, their earliest stuff -- was a lot better though.)

Also, me stretching out re: Chely Wright, on the Rhapsody blog:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/05/chely-wright-comes-out-fighting.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

And finally, a short review of Elizabeth Cook's new album (which grew on me -- too long, and only one great song, but plenty of good ones):

http://www.rhapsody.com/elizabeth-cook/welder

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Did you like [i]Balls[i]? I did. (That's a Cook album yall, in case the italics don't kick in.) Good to know Jason Boland and the Stragglers have a new live album. I'll have to check that and their [i]Live at Billy Bob's[i] (I covered Gary Stewart and Coe's sets in that series--wonder what Smith's Entertainment Group is issuing these days?) Boland and the Stragglers' Somewhere in the Middle was pretty sassy, despite its title; made my 2004 Nashville Scene Top Ten, if they did one.

dow, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh boy, it's been a lonng time since I did this; left out the backslash. Must practice some more. nah

dow, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

He basically has no singing voice at all, right? Which is a shame, because as I recall, he can really write songs.

Yeah Tom Russell's not much of a singer, at all. Can be a really interesting songwriter, at least judging by a 2-disc career overview that I wrote something about a year or two ago, plus a couple of his albums I've heard here and there.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Did you like *Balls*? I did. (That's a Cook album yall

Nope, I could never really get into her before, though I've always thought she had potential, as these previous years' posts demonstrate:

Rolling country 2007 thread

Rolling country 2007 thread

Rolling Country 2006 Thread

Though your and Edd's posts about her on those threads definitely suggest you guys were hearing something I wasn't.

Had never heard a Boland album before his new live one.

xhuxk, Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Posted this in the Hag thread:

Continuing my wade through his catalogue I got the 1999 remastered version of Big City. It's got the title track and "My Favorite Memory," plus you may know Rosanne Cash and George Jones' versions of "You Don't Have Very Far To Go" and George Jones' "I Always Get Lucky With You," respectively. The singing and playing are top-notch, and they do wonders for the reactionary "Are The Good Times Really Over."

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

And I answered that well, it's not entirely reactionary: "I wish Coke was still cola and a joint was a bad place to be/It was back before Nixon lied to us all on TV." Great song, either way. And my favorite album by him in the past three decades.

xhuxk, Friday, 14 May 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

New CG, Xgau gives an A to Johnny Cash; B+ to Merle, honorable mentions to Drive-By Truckers, Texas Tornados, Carolina Chocolate Drops, Lyle Lovett, Drakkar Sauna, James Hand, Willie Nelson, Peter Karp & Sue Foley, Easton Corbin, Rev. Horton Heat; duds to Bobby Bare Jr., Blake Shelton.

xhuxk, Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it doesn't sound entirely reactionary because the character sounds genuinely scared about what the future brings (I think "Okie From Muskogee" is a terrific song, btw, and don't have the trouble some critics apparently did at the time with separating Hag from the character -- although who cares if he was the same guy?).

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Six listens through Laura Marling's "Rambling Man" and it still sounds like a generic finishing-school Britfolk snoozer, though not bad, and it got high marks and friendly writeups on the Jukebox. Marling's got a good scratch in her voice and better songs than "Rambling Man," and strong good looks. She's three months younger than Taylor Swift and has plenty of potential, though she seems hemmed-in by her style.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"That is a fantastic article. Who is Dave Heaton and how can we rope him into our convos, too?"
--From a comment on my livejournal.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Please come back, people! (Me included.)

52 NEW 1 Pound Sign (#?*!), Kevin Fowler
D.L.Murphy (D.L.Murphy,J.Collins,T.Martin )

Just heard this on the radio, and like it a lot -- punchy popwise country rock novelty song about feeling like shit, probably because he drank too much the night before, except he can't say "shit" on the air so he just lists all the punctuation symbols a la comic book pages.

xhuxk, Monday, 31 May 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"That is a fantastic article. Who is Dave Heaton and how can we rope him into our convos, too?"
--From a comment on my livejournal.

Oh wow, nice. I just saw this. Maybe I should figure livejournal out

erasingclouds, Monday, 31 May 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

A couple short reviews I've written in the past couple weeks:

Jace Everett (in the running for my album of the year -- also one of the most rocking albums I've heard this year if you're say a Link Wray fan -- even though it technically apparently first came out last year on an even smaller label; though then again I just heard the due-in-September new Jamey Johnson double CD yesterday, and that will mostly likely give this one a run for the money, at least.) Most garage-punk Everett track is probably "One Of Them," by the way, followed by "Little Black Dress," "What It Is?'," and maybe "Permanent Thing," the latter of which reminds me of the Screaming Blue Messiahs. Least favorite track is "Slip Away," on account of it starting out more like John Mayer than say the Chocolate Watchband or Music Machine, but even that one picks up and gets to soaring after a bit. Anyway, the review:

http://www.rhapsody.com/jace-everett/red-revelations#albumreview

Also, the new (and also good) Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band album:

http://www.rhapsody.com/the-reverend-peytons-big-damn-band/the-wages#albumreview

Some other more or less country-related new albums I've been liking lately, which I may or may get around to talking about in more detail here someday, at least if I'm not the only one posting here again:

John Jackson – Rappahannock Blues (Smithsonian Folkways reissue)
Dierks Bentley – Up On The Ridge (Capitol)
Tim Woods – The Blues Sessions (Earwig)
Stone River Boys – Love On The Dial (Cow Island) *
Intocable – Classic (Sony Music Latin ‘09)
Andy Cohen – Built Right On The Ground (Earwig)

* - New band of Dave Gonzalez, from the Haceinda Brothers

xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

And because I'm such a helpful guy, some Myspace links:

Jace Everett album stream

http://www.myspace.com/jaceeverett/music/albums/red-revelations-15552393

Rev. Peyton's Big Damn Band

http://www.myspace.com/therevpeytonsbigdamnband

Stone River Boys

http://www.myspace.com/stoneriverboys

Andy Cohen

http://www.myspace.com/andycohenblues

Not finding one for Tim Woods (who is more a blues-rock guy, actually).

xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ooohhh i'd love to hear more about this new Jamey Johnson double album.

Moreno, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, think I'll let it sink in and germinate for a month or two first. Just got mastered, apparently. Sounded amazing on first listen, though -- and I'm somebody who didn't think he could follow up his last one.

Btw, another (non-country) reference point I thought of for some of that Jace Everett album might be, say, if Afghan Whigs or Von Bondies or somebody like that had had less stiff singers and catchier knacks for radio hooks. (Though maybe I just think that because one song is subtitled "C'Mon C'Mon," a la Von Bondies' Rescue Me theme.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

So, Christgau gave Elizabeth Cook's new album an A:

Elizabeth Cook: 'Welder' (31 Tigers)
Grade: A

First you tell me the fourth album by a thick-drawling Opry regular from rural Florida assembles 13 pieces of harmonically received verse- chorus-verse, and then I'll tell you they pack more aesthetic power and sophistication than any college-educated art damagee has scared up in a while. Although it helps that she's a college-educated art damagee herself, it helps even more that her bootlegger-turned- welder dad was in a band with her mom. Cook has been perfecting her craft long enough to recognize that her mama's funeral and her heroin addict sister are the stuff of art--those are both exact titles, but capitals and quotation marks would reduce them to mere songs rather than experiences the non-irony-damaged can share. And she's been living her life long enough that she won't let her suffering, to call it by its rightful name, dampen her appetite for good times. Inspirational Verse: "And if I wake up married I'll have to annul it/Right now my hands are in his mullet."

Agree it's a a good album, though I'd say more in the B+/A- range.

Also gives a Choice Cut ("Ain't No Sun") to Courtyard Hounds, which I haven't heard, and Duds to Lady Antebellum, Shelby Lynne, and Carrie Underwood, none of which I'd recommend myself (actually still holding out on Antebellum -- another real good radio single could finally win it over for me), but none of which I thought were all that awful. (And also, non-countrywise, gives a B+ to Tin Huey and Honorable Mentions to the Fall and This Moment In Black History, all of which I also like.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd say the Lady A record is pretty dud. Great first single, okay second. I can't even remember what the hell else was on it.

So watching the Brooks & Dunn tribute there were the usual karaoke performances and then Sugarland made "Red Dirt Road" sound like a Springsteen song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0L1dtoztQk

I'm new to big contemporary country music acts that aren't Swift/Lambert/Paisley/Jamey/Underwood, and have only heard a few Sugarland singles. What album would you suggest? Interested in hearing that Elizabeth Cook now too, thanks xhuxk.

billy, Saturday, 5 June 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The first Sugarland album "Twice the Speed of Life" is probably the best, though the other two have some great songs.

President Keyes, Saturday, 5 June 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Lady A record is pretty dud. Great first single, okay second. I can't even remember what the hell else was on it.

Yeah, me either, to be honest! Not sure why I think some other song might magically hit me at this point. The CD's in a small limbo pile in the closet, with, like, the latest Gil Scott-Heron, Hold Steady, Mindy McCready, Joe Dee Messina albums, maybe a couple other things -- which is to say that I'm fairly convinced it's not good enough to keep, but I'm also worried that, if I get rid of it, two weeks later I'll somehow wish I didn't. Sounds crazy, but I swear that's happened to me before.

As for Sugarland, I might actually like my favorite songs on Love On The Inside more than my favorites on Twice the Speeed Of Life, but yeah, I guess the debut would get the nod overall. (It's definitely the most ethical one, given Kristen Hall still being on it.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 June 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Then again, without doublechecking by playing them back-to-back, I for sure think of the third album as the more adventurous (and more rock-leaning) of those two, even if it's not as consistent. (And it does have "Take Me As I Am," which I'd probably count as their best song.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

So relistening to Need You Now and it's still pretty unremarkable barring the title track and "American Honey," if you want to be generous. "Hello World" has a nice bombast but the line about little white crosses on the front lawn of a church is sort of jarring, and then the song seems to last forever. And then there's a weird Kurtis Blow shoutout in "Perfect Day" that makes me want to like it more than I actually do.

The "Stars Tonight" riff is sort of a muted "Celebrity Skin," and the rest of the song is way too limp for being a We Are An Awesome Rock Band song. I never heard the debut; were those songs all so mid-tempo and drab?

Thanks for the Sugarland recs.

billy, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Antebellum debut was a lot catchier (and less downbeat more often) overall, I thought. Definitely liked it more. Here's what I wrote about it at the time, though I probably overplayed the grunge angle a bit:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/05/lady-antebellum-helps-country-get-its-grunge-on.html

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of Joe Dee Messina, heard "Bye Bye" (written by Phil Vassar) from 1998 on the radio for the first time in a long long time today, and wow -- forgot what a great pop-rock country song that is. Like, Katrina and the Waves level catchy. (Same album as "I'm Alright"," too -- that was the title track -- another great hit written by Vassar.)

xhuxk, Monday, 7 June 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Miranda Lambert's experienced quite a sales spike in the last few weeks, I see (awards, etc).

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

She's also finally got a #1 song w/ "House That Built Me" (she said her first was "White Liar," but Billboard has that peaking at #2, unless she's talking about some other chart).

evan's schlong: glorious (billy), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I've participated in the last couple of Nashville Scene polls, so I hope it's fair game to jump into the conversation here.

Miranda's "White Liar" hit #1 on the Mediabase chart, which is used for most of the radio countdown shows like American Country Countdown, but not on Billboard. I have no idea why anyone would get caught up in that distinction, but if you're a pyromaniac, you can go to Carrie Underwood's fan forum and ask someone how many #1 hits Underwood has had, and then hold on to your hat.

jon_oh, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Singles Jukebox reviews of current singles by...

Josh Turner

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2378

Jason Aldean

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2377

Chris Young

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2379

Lots to say, mostly on some later date maybe, about the CMT Country Video Awards or whatever they're called the other night (actually watched them in a hotel room in San Francisco that had cable!); drunk Kid Rock opening with five or so minutes of hard rock rap was a trip (hey, the song was "Cowboy" -- get it? plus Trace and Bocephus and Martina McBride and Randy Houser helped him out), and seemed to leave almost as many people in the audience confused as when those two stupid "Jersey Shore" kids (who I'd never seen before, and have no interest in seeing again) and Paula Dean (who I'd never even heard of before -- apparently she has a cooking show or something, somebody told me?) came on to present an award. Whole show reminded me how "CMT" is a way different, more wide-rangningly trendy, aesthetic than CMAs or ACMs or whatever; no stodgy old George Straits or Randy Travises hanging around to bore things up, for one thing. But I do think country purists would probably have a point about a lot of the show being aggressively non-country, even if that made it more entertaining, for the most part. Anyway, where that really comes into play for me is that I swear I saw John Anderson on the screen five times at least during the ceremony (including, if I'm not mistaken, playing guitar in the background during LeAnn Rimes's pretty good boogie-woogie-bugle-boy -schticked remake of "Swingin'"), but he was never named -- I think they even just introduced "Swingin'" as an "old country classic" or something like that. There was something really fucked up about that.

xhuxk, Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"I just recorded a song with Kid Rock for his new album. It seems like an odd pairing, but I love that he sees the real redneck in me," McBride said during Billboard's Country Music Summit this week. "There's a rapper called T.I. who raps the third verse. Kid Rock sings the first verse, I sing the second verse, and T.I. raps the third verse. Crazy, but it's really uplifting and it's a cool melody and it feels good. It makes sense. If I was rapping the third verse, that would not make sense."

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/country-s-martina-mcbride-collaborates-with-1004097478.story

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 13 June 2010 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Was flipping channels on Saturday when I went by CMT Top 20 Countdown. Nickelback had something
in it. Can't remember the title, made me laugh, along with Kenny Chesney forsaking his usual summer take on Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville for Jason Aldean's Bad Company imitation in a lighter/higher register. You owe me for that one, Chuck. Actually, I'm giving Chesney too much credit on "Ain't Back Yet," since it's so languid it's almost dead. He makes Bill Shatner/Jim Kirk grimaces and grandiloquent
stage gestures and you keep waiting for the music to kick it up a notch or something like a real thump to creep into it. But it never does. Horns try to add pizzazz, fail. When he sings "I'm gone and I ain't back yet" about one hundred times it's truth in advertising.

Gorge, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, "I was gone and I ain't back yet." Joe Walsh and Sammy Hagar make video appearances.
The Grandpap club, desperate for attention, will get onstage with anyone.

Gorge, Monday, 14 June 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The Chesney single is a complete non-starter. I think it's telling that it's one of just a small handful of singles (just 5 or 6 total, out of more than 20) that he's released since 2000 to miss the top 2 at country radio.

The new Little Big Town album, though? A couple of dud, Starbucksish ballads, including a cover of a song from Julie Roberts' self-titled debut, but most of it is pretty terrific stuff. Granted, it will probably sell a fraction of what the new Lady Antebellum has sold, but it has a much stronger pulse.

jon_oh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Good to hear about LBT. (Though I'm holding out for a physical advance copy before I listen to it, at least for now. Out in September I think.)

The Nickelback song on CMT that George mentioned is presumably "This Afternoon," the relatively (for them) light and bouncy semi-country choogle from their most recent long-shelf-life album. It just entered the Hot 100 this week, I think; mentions CCR and Bob Marley in the lyrics, as I recall. About partying with bros. Haven't seen video yet.

And yep, George definitely deserves credit for my Aldean/Bad Co linkage.

Anyway, a couple reccent reviews. First the new Dierks Bentley, which I didn't expect to like (as I said upthread), but really grew on me:

http://www.rhapsody.com/dierks-bentley/up-on-the-ridge-2#albumreview

Now archived folk bluesman John Jackson, who covers a great country hit:

http://www.rhapsody.com/john-jackson/rappahannock-blues#albumreview

xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

And here's a few hundred words I just did for Rhapsody, on Petty/Mellencamp's influence on current country:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/06/heartland.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

The Nickelback song on CMT that George mentioned is presumably "This Afternoon," the relatively (for them) light and bouncy semi-country choogle from their most recent long-shelf-life album.

plus it has a passing resemblance, musically, to kid rock's "all summer long."

best thing about the video, which is basically a pool party stocked w/bikini babes, is that when the kid running the party finds out nickelback will be the entertainment, he says, "nickelback? you got me nickelback??? alright, fine, they'll do." i can't tell if that's nickelback making light of their critical reputation, or if it's them making light of their considerably large egos, or if they're just being silly. either way, it made me smile.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

LBT is out on August 24th, so hopefully the physical promo copies will be going out before too long.

The Petty and Mellencamp influences (and I'd probably throw Bob Seger into that conversation, as well) are definitely felt heavily in many of the men in contemporary country, but I don't know if I would necessarily extend that to the likes of Carrie Underwood and Taylor Swift or some of the other women (Miranda Lambert, Kellie Pickler) who have some traction at country radio. The Grammy performance with Swift from back in the winter suggests that Stevie Nicks might be the best analogue for the women, but there's also a whole lot of Pat Benetar in Underwood's uptempo numbers and especially in the last Martina McBride album.

jon_oh, Friday, 18 June 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, like I said, Swift has covered "American Girl," and "Picture To Burn" has early Cougar in its phrasing. And somebody was saying here a couple years ago that they heard Mike Campbell type guitars in the Dixie Chicks' "Voice Inside My Head," and various Kathleen Edwards songs, if she counts. But yeah, I agree that influence is primarily on the country guys. And sure, there are other influences, too, of course -- I just focused on Petty and Coug there because they have, uh, new product on the shelves. I don't doubt Urban and Paisley are also Lindsey Buckingham fans, and obviously Little Big Town are almost a Fleetwood Mac tribute band. (Kid Rock called Lady Antebellum "the country Fleetwood Mac" at the CMTs, which makes less sense.) Not so sure I hear very much Stevie Nicks in country's females voices, though -- maybe occasionally. Occasional Benatar too. Sugarland's "Take Me As I Am" has a lot of Benatar in it, I think. I hear a lot of '80s Heart in Underwood; maybe some Joan Jett, too, which she never quite pulls off.

As for that Nickelback video, which I agree is funny, maybe the point is just that they want to expand their already huge audience to music fans (e.g., country ones) who are now skeptical about them. So self-deprecation could work in their favor. (Btw, I was way off about "This Afternoon" having just entered the Hot 100; it's actually been on that chart for 10 weeks. Entered the Top 40 just two weeks ago, though.)

And as for the country chart, two new songs I should try to hear:

55 1 Trailerhood, Toby Keith
T.Keith (T.Keith ) Show Dog-Universal PROMO SINGLE | 55
58 NEW 1 From A Table Away, Sunny Sweeney
B.Beavers (S.Sweeney,B.DiPiero,K.Rochelle ) Republic Nashville PROMO SINGLE | 58

xhuxk, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Most interesting phenomenon on the country album chart might be this, I think -- which seems to have expanded since I first noticed it here a few months ago; wonder if Billboard's done a story on it yet:

26 28 25 15 Hillbilly Bone (EP), Blake Shelton
Reprise/Warner Bros. 522642 | WMN | 8.98 2

56 56 68 53
Off The Hillbilly Hook (EP), Trailer Choir
Show Dog-Universal 025 | 7.98 30

58 RE-ENTRY 2 She Won't Be Lonely Long (EP), Clay Walker
Curb DIGITAL EX | 4.98 58

60 RE-ENTRY 2 Love Like Crazy (EP), Lee Brice
Curb DIGITAL EX | 4.98 56

75 66 74 7 The Band Perry (EP), The Band Perry
Republic Nashville DIGITAL EX | UMGN | 4.98 42

I know Colt Ford had an EP on the chart a month or so ago, too.

xhuxk, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Mellencamp's longtime association with FarmAid, which has always drawn some country headliners, makes him a pretty obvious artist to bear influence on the genre. CMT routinely ran the videos for "Jack & Diane," "Paper in Fire," and even "Key West Intermezzo" during their various alternative-country programming blocks during the mid-90s. I can remember Petty turning up alongside Kelly Willis and Kevin Welch during those blocks every once in a while, as well.

The Toby Keith single is streaming here:
mms://wm1.cesca.com/showdog/TobyKeith/Trailerhood.wma

I've found that the execution on his recent output has been lacking, and I don't hear much life in his performance on this one. Though, if nothing else, it's better than the Josh Turner album track of the same name from a couple of years ago.

jon_oh, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

55 1 Trailerhood, Toby Keith
T.Keith (T.Keith ) Show Dog-Universal PROMO SINGLE | 55

Josh Turner has a song w/ this title on Everything is Fine.

President Keyes, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Pat Benetar in Underwood's uptempo numbers and especially in the last Martina McBride album.

Maybe you didn't see it but country on cable had a "Crossroads" broadcast that teamed Benatar and McBride doing each others tunes. During the course of the thing Martina McBride said she'd been in a cover band named Penetrator or Penetration, I can't recall precisely, and they'd performed some of Benatar's tunes. Much hilarity ensued.

Gorge, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Wouldn't say that the Taylor-Stevie connection is influence (at least not in regard to musical specifics such as pronunciation, arrangement, etc.) so much as that Fearless is marinated in a moody femininity that reminds me of Wild Heart-era Stevie* and that Taylor (and Michelle and Jewel, and the Natalie Dixies before that) is heir to a feminine singer-songwriter sensibility that includes Stevie (is much more its heir than Little Big Town is, even though Little Big Town is so obviously indebted to Fleetwood Mac). That's what I argued in my Country Critics ballot, which I posted upthread.

(I forget if I also linked my decade's end piece here, but that includes a variant of this theory, starting about halfway in.)

*Wild Heart contains a Tom Petty song, not that that's particularly relevant to what I'm saying.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't have a strong opinion yet on "Trailerhood"'s sound: I like the Hawaiian slide a lot, the rest is deliberately laid back, and maybe my not having an immediate strong opinion on a Toby sound does constitute an opinion, i.e., I'm leaning "so what?" Lyrics make the trailerhood sound a lot narrower and more ingrown than the world of "I Love This Bar."

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Jaron and the Long Road To Love, Singles Jukeboxed (and I'm still wondering about the, er, Jewish question that I raise in the comments):

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2426

Also, John Mayer with a smidgen of Taylor Swift:

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2427

Jon Caramanica on Elizabeth Cook, live in NYC's suburbs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/arts/music/23cook.html

...And on the Nashville Rising flood benefit. Is Michael W. Smith always such a Tea Partying asswipe, or was he just having a bad day? (Also, how, quantitatively, does devastation from the Nashville flood compare to Katrina? It's not even close, right?) Also wonder if I'm the only NY Times subscriber who read this piece and knew what by Toby Keith "doing his best Jamey Johnson impersonation," but it made me laugh anyway. Toby looked pretty worn down on the CMT Telecast, I thought, and bored while singing "American Ride"; when asked what he thought of Kid Rock's opening performance, he said he missed it because he was in the bar. (Still haven't checked out his new single myself.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/arts/music/24nashville.html

xhuxk, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"what was meant by Toby 'doing...." etc. (Actually, I do wonder whether badasses like Toby might think that Jamey is raising the ante for what they should be doing. Could prove interesting, if so, but I haven't heard it reflected in Toby's -- or Trace's, or Montgomery Gentry's, etc. -- music yet. Though I also wouldn't swear Jamey is that big a leap. He does concentrate more on looking scary on stage, though.)

Finally, Michael Corcoran in this morning's Austin Statesman on the Mother Truckers, whose new album I like, just like I liked their previous two, though I think I agree that their second one was most consistent, and the new one leans slightly more toward blues-based hard rock and less toward country. Also do like "Keep It Simple" too, though I'm not sure I think it's the best track; leaning toward opener "Alien Girl," which just like "Dynamite" last time reminds me as much of Suzi Quatro as anything rural or rootsy. Actually wish they did more songs like that. Still need to catch them live sometime, but they always play below the river, which is a little bit of a trek, and more so, farther away than I'd want to drive home after midnight from after drinking a few beers, which I'm sure would be hard not to do while watching these folks. Lame excuse, I know. Still need to catch Shinyribs sometime, too.

http://www.austin360.com/music/mother-truckers-better-than-the-van-764283.html

Mother Truckers' myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/themothertruckers

xhuxk, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Watched the "Dynamite" video on YouTube. Rockabilly, a bit more on the rock boogie with the cool train beat, so I get the Suzi Quatro ref -- with the lady. The guy's nerd rock voice, though -- ehhh. No way I'd last for an album of that. Having read the Austin Statesman piece, not buying the bit about any hit single.

There's an ever more ornate shtick these types of bands mint. Not sure what it's called -- grindhouse movie pseudo white trash baseball capped roller derby for college students in [name the university town].

I guess it was cowpunk when it started three decades ago.

Gorge, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"Hot Legs" recorded & video'd in some dive was entertaining but I'd by fibbing if I said I got the end of these things. Three minutes with one minute of a heavy metal interlude tossed into the Rod Steward tune and the band's real tight but the self-defeating baseball cap look's gotta go and the lady has to get to sing more with a little less from the band.

Gorge, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

And is the look taken from Sookie Stackhouse's dim brother in True Blood all the rage now, or?

Gorge, Thursday, 24 June 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Reba does Beyonce.

Not as on-point as Sugarland's version of "Irreplaceable," but she and Beyonce both lean heavily on melisma when they sing, so it works pretty well.

Jaron and the Long Road To Love, Singles Jukeboxed (and I'm still wondering about the, er, Jewish question that I raise in the comments)

Juice Newton is the only Jewish performer I can recall who has hit the top 20 on the country charts. Ray Benson, the frontman for Asleep at the Wheel, is also Jewish, but that act has only cracked the top 40 a handful of times. And Kinky Friedman is something of a cult figure, though he never really had any noteworthy chart success.

jon_oh, Friday, 25 June 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7U-UD766s

is this a good country song? is this a country song? i like it

youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Sunday, 27 June 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Did you guys read the Nashville Scene thing I did on Elizabeth Cook (looking back upthread)? It's on the Scene site in case you didn't see it. I would say it's an intermittently brilliant little record, I would give it a A-minus if I gave grades. Songwriting fades halfway thru and musically...well, it has its moments, but it's mainly received wisdom or received harmonic language as Xgau pointed out. Saw Cook at Station Inn for the release party in Nashville--you know, we liked it, she's great and her husband plays nice guitar. But whether or not the voice is compelling enough or rich enough to keep me innerested over the long haul...dunno. However, "Heroin Addict Sister" is mighty good songwritin'.

Let's see, mainly I've been writing about just whatever tickles my fancy and/or comes thru town. Did see Tim O'Brien, also at Station Inn (I like the old dump of a place in the newly gentrified Gulch area of town with its fancy coffee shops and new buildings). You know, the guy's kinda wry and he comes across as another victim/observer, I like him OK. And mainly we've been going out to see stuff, we caught Paul Thorn, who definitely belongs here on this thread, at the Belcourt. Tight little band in a Stones/Attractions vein, a real good drummer and a big, fat keyboard dude, like Thorn from Tupelo. Anyway, his trailer-park song and his one about how he don't like his relatives but he loves them are also good, funny, and he knows how to parlay his plain voice and average-dude looks and Southern bad-boy charm into a very good night out indeed. Caroline just loved him, I liked him a lot, the women in gen'l seemed to love him. The record--Pimps and Preachers--is just OK, though.

And I think I find Deer Tick a bit repetitive, altho the opening Black Dirt track is quite cool. Megafaun's use of electronics 'n such gives them the edge over the Tick. I wrote something about Dierks B. recently--I thought his bluegrass record was mainly a load of shit, just because the songs were such Music Row hackdom and phoned in. The Dylan cover, meh, but one blues by Suzi Ragsdale or someone like that (writer) was kinda good. Just didn't get the frission of bluegrass/country I was supposed to, and I still like his thrown-away road-dog singles from a few years ago, as bluegrass fusionoid thang.

Someone above, Chuck maybe, asked about the Nashville flood. Maybe I should look at the numbers, but I can tell you whole subdivisions (the ones built in bends of the Cumberland River, where of course they shouldn't have been) were wiped out, main roads like Harding Pike there at Belle Meade Blvd. (very tony address) and Charlotte Pike were under water, the interstates were under water. In our little subdivision, the entire row of houses along the Little Harpeth River were flooded with mud up to the windows, and two houses partially burned right down the street. Pretty bad, but the impact of Katrina on a much poorer populace was probably bigger. We didn't get flooded 'cause we up on a hill, but it was freaky: 40 hours of straight rain.

Also saw Neil Young at the Ryman and, you know, he was good and all. But actually I was there to see Bert Jansch, I had been listening to Jansch a lot recently, and also wrote him up in the Scene recently in case you wanna read it. I mean Jansch belongs in this discussion if only for the way he parallels bluegrass and acoustic blooze/roots stuff--the L.A. Turnaround is a decent slice of country-rock but perhaps not him in his most congenial surroundings, and produced by Mike Nesmith with the great Red Rhodes on pedal steel. Speaking of bluegrass, Roland White's I Wasn't Born to Rock 'n' Roll, recently reissued by Tompkins Square, is an uncommonly relaxed and listenable straight bluegrass record from mid '70s.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Edd! (At least I assume you're Edd...) Glad you're okay, and glad you're back, even if we don't see eye to eye about what counts as powerpop. Hope it didn't seem like I was underplaying Nashville's storm damage; didn't mean to. Just thought Michael W. Smith's claim that Katrina got New Orleans more national attention mainly because of all the "looters" was totally offensive bullshit, especially coming from a Christian pop star. Fairly obvious what "looters" there is code for.

I played the new Paul Thorn album a couple times, and nah, it didn't do anything for me, either. Just don't think he's got a compelling voice, at all. (Can say the same for his fellow onetime songwriter for Toby Keith, Fred Eaglesmith, whose new album shot maybe even more of a blank for me.) But the one time I saw Thorn live in NYC, he was indeed fun.

Curious what you think about some of the classic country folks I discuss upthread -- Hank Thompson, Statler Brothers, Buck Owens, etc. Still feeling that Owens's sad-sack schtick is way more limited than he's usually given credit for -- seems odd that the Buckaroos' fast instrumental cuts so often wind up being some of my favorites on his LPs -- but I did wind up liking the 50 cent copy of 1965's Before You Go/No One But You I picked up OK. He even covers the Coasters.

I'll have some more to say about Mother Truckers one of these days -- George is right that they're much better when Teal sings, but I might like the guy's singing at least a little more than George does. Their albums are pretty spotty, either way. Not so sure that their fans are mostly college kids, as George suggests -- do college kids even like bar band roots rock anymore? -- but then, George seems to have watched more live youtube clips than I have. (That usually takes me a while.)

Wrote a bunch about Flynnville Train's new album on Rolling Hard Rock. Normally I'd just post a permalink, but it's spread over a bunch of posts, so for user-friendly reasons I'll just cut and paste instead:

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Hardest rocking new track I've heard so far in 2010, I think, might be Flynnville Train's cover of "Sandman" by America, a song I never even liked before. A country band, allegedly, but country in the Kentucky Headhunters sense, and this cut's as loud as that band's "Big Boss Man," at least. Total guitar jam. Rest of the new album is growing on me, but I don't think anything else gets this heavy. (On Evolution Records, whatever that is -- their debut, which made my top 10 a couple years ago, was on Toby Keith's label Show Dog.) Here's their myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/flynnvilletrain

― xhuxk, Monday, 28 June 2010 03:38

Turns out the other 9-or-10 out of 10 track on Flynnville Train's Redemption, besides their America cover, is "Friend Of Sinners," about asking Christ's forgiveness since you've fucked up all the commandments. Might sound cheesy on paper, but a big part of what makes those two cuts rock the hardest is their use of space and quiet to let the rhythm and lead guitars build over the monster drums. They're also the two darkest and most menacing (and maybe the longest -- haven't checked) cuts on the CD. Rest of the album comes as close to Skynyrd as any contemporary country I've heard, with subliminal rockabilly and Chuck Berry parts and really good songwriting; "Preachin' To The Choir" and "On Our Way" (which says the band got their start back in '83 -- not sure if that's to be taken literally or not) being two of the higher highlights. "Turn Left" is the NASCAR song; "Scratch Me When I'm Itchin'" the horndog song; "Alright" the one that sounds like Dave Edmunds in Rockpile; "The One You Love" the token ladies' choice, and at first I thought they mushed out, but its guitars are really purty.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:37

And eh...forget I mentioned Skynyrd in re: Flynnville Train. Dumb comparison. Skynyrd had more than rockabilly and Chuck Berry going for them anyway -- for one thing, they were a lot funkier. And Flynnville seem much more inclined to be pandering (sometimes in the usual modern Nashville ways) as songwriters, and also (unlike Skynyrd) they're not geniuses. Guess I just mean that, like with the best Headhunters stuff, you can really tell you're hearing a seasoned, self-contained band, who know how to work and rock as a unit. Which, with Nashville still using session musicians no matter how loud it gets, remains a rarity. The guitars do sometimes sound kind of Skynyrdy, though.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:55

...and they still do have a more swinging rhythm section than say Drive By Truckers (or Neil Young, for that matter -- can't think of when he's rocked as hard as Flynnville's "Sandman," which is neat since I've always figured America as the wimp version of Neil in the first place. Still have no idea what the lyrics are supposed to be about, though.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:44

You may not believe this but I saw more than one high school band turn "Sandman" into a fuzztone proto-metal dirge around '70-'72. It was basically a simple dirge all along, so you could hammer the shit out of it. Which may or may not be what Flynnville does but thought I'd mention it. There was precedent.

― Gorge, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 12:26 AM

a fuzztone proto-metal dirge around '70-'72. It was basically a simple dirge all along, so you could hammer the shit out of it. Which may or may not be what Flynnville does

It's pretty close! Dirge into raveup, maybe. Wonder if any amateur versions like that from 40 years were actually recorded; if not, it's crazy that it took so long.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:30

Starts here (and if anybody's interested, there's talk of Styx, Strawbs, Gaslight Anthem, Savoy Brown, Pat Travers, etc. mixed in):

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

Also, Single Jukebox reviews of Carrie Underwood's "Undo It":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2458

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it is indeed me. I somehow lost my old ilx identity and had to get a new 'un...kind of my tip o' the Hatlo hat to Green Acres...and yeah, had to give you some shit on power pop, Chuck, just funnin' around...feeling good these days, healthier. Been a hell of a year or so...

Buck Owens I really like in small doses, the Don Rich stuff I mean. Someone told me there's a new Buck bio out--maybe it was Yuval Taylor--and apparently, wow, he was one mean son-of-a-bitch. But yep, the uptempos are the only good things.

As for the Statlers--wow again, that is some fucked-up shit. White message sacred music with some very scared moments of nostalgia/tortured liberalism...the CoMuHall of Fame did a thing on them recently and no one from the Statlers would talk to me (Ray Stevens even took my call!), but I wrote this for the Scene on 'em:

Statler Brothers Interview
When: Thu., June 3, 12 p.m. 2010
Many country artists worked the society-is-hypocrisy angle in the '60s and '70s, but The Statler Brothers made music that was concerned with how middle-class Americans thought about class, aspiration and history. A onetime gospel group from Virginia, The Statler Brothers first hit with 1965's “Flowers on the Wall" and went on to record such classics as “Whatever Happened to Randolph Scott." Their harmonies were gospel, but their songs married comedy, folk and country to the era's socially conscious pop. On 1970's “New York City," they narrated the tale of a woman who is shamed into having her illegitimate child in an unfriendly metropolis, while the incredible “Junkie's Prayer" added gospel changes to a sordid tale. In short, they're one of country's oddest and most interesting groups. Today's interview session and CoMu's new Statlers exhibit ought to shine some light on the matter.
— Edd Hurt

ebbjunior, Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Fred Eaglesmith! I gotta listen to that new one. I admit, Christgau did a review of one of them...what's the name of it?...and got me into Fred. Pretty interesting cat.

Deaths: Larry Jon Wilson died. I am a fan of his "New Beginnings" LP on Monument, '75, but don't like the one he did on Drag City a couple years ago as much. As far as basso Georgia profundo voices go and rampant regionalism and everything, he's great...also on some of those "Country Got Soul" comps. He had played the Bluebird here and foolishly I didn't see him. Also, speaking of power pop, Tommy Hoehn died, he worked with Chilton and Van Duren in Memphis and had one great cut far as I could tell, included on one of those American Power Pop comps, "Blow Yourself Up." Well, kinda great.

So here's me on Ray Stevens. I got on a Nilsson kick earlier this year--I don't think anyone in pop was better than Nilsson at his best, actually--but I stand by my comparison; the Stevens record I mention is the one to get if you get just one...

Nashville Cats feat. Ray Stevens
When: Sat., April 24, 1:30 p.m. 2010
You could describe Ray Stevens’ classic ’60s and ’70s work as Randy Newman or Harry Nilsson for suburbanites, but Stevens took the novelty song places those artists could only dream of. A Georgia native who cut his teeth as an A&R man for Mercury Records in the early ’60s, Stevens is a schooled musician who — much like Newman — has a genius for arranging. Working in Nashville, he scored big ’60s hits such as “Ahab the Arab” and “Gitarzan.” His 1968 Even Stevens remains a minor classic of unpretentious social commentary, with “Mr. Businessman” and the amazing “Say Cheese” sounding like lighter, less austere variations on Nilsson’s lost-in-the-city fantasias. He continued to score in the ’70s with “Everything Is Beautiful” and another great novelty tune, “The Streak.” Stevens remains topical: His new full-length We the People includes a Sarah Palin tribute, “Caribou Barbie.”
— Edd Hurt

ebbjunior, Thursday, 1 July 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah, Eaglesmith's "Ralph's Last Show."

Tom Russell, he was mentioned above? He did a show here with Gretchen Peters, they did a record together all about the Wild West. Anyway, that was OK, Peters is might genteel, but Russell's last record, "Blood and Candle Smoke," is a Kamp Klassic. I can't play the thing, I laugh so hard I feel like I'm moving around a kidney stone or something. in fact, here's my American Songwriter review of it, they won't care, they done paid me my $10 for it:

TOM RUSSELL
Blood and Candle Smoke
(SHOUT! FACTORY)
Rating: ★★★★☆

Listeners with a sense of the unintentionally hysterical are in for a treat with Tom Russell’s Blood and Candle Smoke. Calexico backs him in a garish neo-Marty Robbins mode, with lots of south-of-the-border trumpet embellishing Russell’s narratives. What’s fascinating about Candle Smoke is Russell’s obvious passion for his great, big, sentimental continent, from Indiana to Texarkana—every line he delivers screams a kind of virile campiness that he probably didn’t intend. Candle Smoke is a noble experiment and, quite simply, a hoot—Richard Harris is smiling and singing “MacArthur Park” in heaven. Russell conflates Dory Previn and Graham Greene in the record’s opener, while “Criminology” is set in Nigeria and mentions Picasso. “All that real estate and pride/All those Indians that died /While the Spanish priests/Danced the drunk fandango,” he moans in “Santa Ana Wind.” It’s a funny, funny record, and you may just love it.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 1 July 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha ha, I might actually even check that Tom Russell album out. Though I'm pretty sure I'd still put him in the Paul Thorn/Fred Eaglesmith category of "more likeable when actual singers are singing his songs."

Somebody started a thread about Ray Stevens here not too long ago. I've only skimmed it myself, though he does seem like a bit of a wingnut now:

Remember when Ray Stevens was on dr. demento and the streak was vaguely funny? Well, now he is shilling himself on Fox News during the glen beck show between vaccum cleaner ads and hannity bullshit.

So Edd, do you have any thoughts about Don Williams (discussed upstream, too)?

is this a good country song? is this a country song?

Definitely country, and yeah, I like the song, too. And the girl is a strong singer. That nerdy guy with her seems weak, though -- at least here. And I hope if/when she records it, she speeds it up some. Does get me curious about Cary Ann Hearst's other stuff. Here's her myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/caryannhearst

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Most girl empowerment tunes make me flinch but I just got around to hearing McBride's "Wrong Baby Wrong," mostly liking it for the Keith Richards-type riff underwriting it. Plus the ringing guitars in the ascending change-ups. Anyway, I'm assuming it's old news now and the album
flopped? Because if the rest of the album is a bit commensurate with that tune, then I'd probably like it. But if not, no.

Gorge, Thursday, 1 July 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Frank (who put the album in his top 10 last year, and so has probably listened to it more than I have) can correct me if I'm wrong (baby wrong), but I don't think there's anything else along the Stones-guitared lines of that song on Shine. I might like "Wild Rebel Rose" -- which lyrically is basically her "Janie's Got A Gun," except better -- even more than the single. The rest didn't click much for me.

Btw, George mentioned Alejandro Escovedo's new album on Rolling Hard Rock, rightly making fun of rock critics' predictable fauning over it this week. In Austin especially -- the Statesman gave the record an "A," par for the course down here -- he was all over best-Austin-albums-of-the-decades-lists in January. Truth is, it's a really dull record, and I say that as somebody who at least found Real Animal two years ago catchy enough to hang onto. (The only Escovedo album I've ever been able to say that about.) I'm not supposed to slag records at the venue where I reviewed the new one, but I hope that what I did write sounds backhanded enough that people might get the point:

http://www.rhapsody.com/alejandro-escovedo/street-songs-of-love#albumreview

Actually, turns out the Bowery song, according to the Statesman piece, isn't supposed to be about a woman at all, but inspired by his angry, graffiti-loving punk teenage son. Which might be interesting, if there had been even a single clue in the lyrics that that's the case.

Something longer I wrote about his last one, fwiw:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/08/alejandro-escovedo-has-a-good-time-but-gets-out-alive.html

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Just went over to Rhapsody which gives me 20-something free listens every few months as
enticement.

The Escovedo album -- I guess it sounds like rocking to people who don't like rocking much at
all. I gave the first tune, "Anchor," the most time and it reminded me of a very
poor man's Bruce, just like Southside Johnny or Nils Lofgren solo album(s) around Cry Tough or after he joined the E-Street Band.

His voice isn't good enough to support the almost non-existent hooks in the music. Tony Visconti produced Bolan and left when Bolan stopped writing catchy stuff. Here he's slumming.

Some of things sound neo-tough because he pumps them up with quiet-loud-quiet-loud drama. "Street Songs" is one good example, which would be something a fan of Lou Reed might produce.

The only other thing that grabbed me a little was "Tender Heart" -- but it's really still just warmed over Asbury Park. I understand Austin has to root for him but -- y'know -- the new Foghat 2.0 album is better roots rock.

And so is Martina McBride's "Wrong Baby Wrong." Your comment on "Wild Rebel Rose" keeps me thinking about investigating further.

I have to thank Rhapsody. The charity listens convinced me I was right when I disparaged the idea of it after reading Kot's tribune review in the LA Times.

Gorge, Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Re Escovedo, or maybe desultory stuff from Graham Parker. Who's every album always seemed to invariably generate more huzzahs than they were worth when you finally got them home and out of the shrinkwrap.

Gorge, Thursday, 1 July 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

After Squeezing Out Sparks, Parker was basically useless, at least as far as stuff I've actually heard goes. Before that, he was usually a lot spottier than critics at the time gave him credit for. Anyway, I did some excavating in the past year, starting about here:

Graham Parker C/D

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

wrote something about Dierks B. recently--I thought his bluegrass record was mainly a load of shit, just because the songs were such Music Row hackdom and phoned in....one blues by Suzi Ragsdale or someone like that (writer) was kinda good

That'd be "Bad Angel," I guess, the track with Miranda Lambert and Jamey Johnson on it -- and, to my ears, one of the duller tracks on what I wound up thinking was a pretty good record. Was skeptical at first, and said so here (bluegrass move -- who cares), but wound up thinking otherwise. (Linked my Rhapsody review up above.) Definitely prefer most of the Jon Randall co-writes to "Bad Angel." And I don't see how all the death and gambling and drug references are typical 2010 Nashville, either (nor is covering U2 and Dylan, both of which I think came out okay.) Favorites are probably "You're Dead To Me" and "Down In The Mine," though it'd take another listen to it to make sure. At any rate, I'd now rate it Dierks's second or third best album, I think.

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

The album that I do think is really really disappointing, after a couple listens, is the new Little Big Town album (out Aug 24.) First single "Little White Church" still sounds pretty great, but I'm not hearing anything else yet that even comes close -- and I liked both of their last two albums a lot. Maybe the novelty of being a Fleetwood Mac without the songwriting skills or Stevie Nick's singing or Lindsey Buckingham's guitar (couldn't they hire Urban or Paisley or somebody to pull that off once in a while?) is starting to wear thin, but I honestly think they may just have run out of songs, for the time being.

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

It's in the last quarter of the CMT Top 20 Countdown either just above or below
"Wrong Baby Wrong." I liked it but it's not spectacular. The entire 20 is pretty lackluster
except for Kellie Pickler's "Makin' Me Fall In Love Again," which is jaunty but not really
country. Neither is Underwood's "Undo It" which is #1. That's arena rock lite.

When Nickelback's "This Afternoon" sounds good in the context of most of them, it's a slow
month.

Two songs on water, Luke Bryan's "Rain is a Good Thing" which has gotta have the worst lyrics I've heard in a long time. Cracked out the rhyming dictionary for whiskey and frisky for that slice of retard rock. And Paisley's thing.

Gorge, Friday, 2 July 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Off thread story, I never listen to Nickelback and I'd e-mailed xhuxk last year trying to identify a song I thought was by some overwraught-sounding girl pop singer because a psychotic guy who lives near me was playing the same chorus of it over and over until the apartment super pulled the power on him.

Turned out it was Nickelback's "I'm Never Gonna Be Alone," which is from the same two year old album as "This Afternoon."

That song is psychotic guy's favorite and it now inspires, figuratively speaking, blinding
headaches in the rest of us who live in his vicinity in a courtyard arrangement. One of the reasons I profoundly detest Nickelback.

Gorge, Friday, 2 July 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe the novelty of being a Fleetwood Mac without the songwriting skills or Stevie Nick's singing or Lindsey Buckingham's guitar (couldn't they hire Urban or Paisley or somebody to pull that off once in a while?) is starting to wear thin

I bet they're really tired of hearing this and now of mixed opinion on whether being so closely described as a redo of Fleetwood Mac helped or hurt. In the short term, yes. In the long term, no.

And the Crossroads segment linking them with Lindsey Buckingham -- I dunno. Tom Petty always
had the best of that deal with Stevie Nicks.

Anyway, "Little White Church" sounds great but a trifle rote. And they aren't really much like
soCali Fleetwood Mac, not at all on that tune. They don't, for instance, have a husky
singer like Christine McVie. And they don't have a weirdo on guitar(s) like Lindsay
Buckingham, who's greatest licks were in "Go Your Own Way" and that's about it. Live he was
still playin' Peter Green's "Oh Well" at every show, just like Bob Welch had to. Has anyone ever actually bought a Lindsay Buckingham solo album?

So not having Lindsay Buckingham on guitar is not actually a handicap in my book, although the Buckingham-Nicks songwriting pair was great for two albums.

couldn't they hire Urban or Paisley or somebody to pull that off once in a while?)

Well -- no, because Buckingham really never had any licks except the one I mentioned that people gave a shit about. So two songs, one which is folk, "Gold Dust Woman."

And -- yeah, someone who could pull off Paisley's hack Fender Esquire/Tele into a Vox thing with
a Way Huge Aquapuss delay box (it's all over every one of his last four albums) would fit into a few of their things. But Paisley got into using his signature as a money shot and equivalent of a tire squeal/smokey burnout. It often does not add to his songs at all. It just tells you, yeah -- it;s Brad Paisley on guitar. You can't have helped but notice that his second most heard song, or maybe first, "Welcome to the Future," owes everything to Mike Campbell in its best parts, a guitar player who has many signature licks, but not one single trademark he places in every Heartbreakers number.

I think Paisley's high tide was on "Alcohol" which, to me, is conspicuous for the absence for the seasoning he put onto all his later tunes.

And he always does a melodic rhythmic thing with a sequencer -- not gonna bore you with what the device is -- once on every album and that usually works for me.

Gorge, Friday, 2 July 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Paisley's best contribution is his Tele twang when he's doing rhythm and riffs. It's literally perfect.

So if that fits the music, yeah he's great. And now he's proved he can do the big jangle, too, which is always popular.

Gorge, Friday, 2 July 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

If I were Little Big Town, though, I'd stick with the unknown hacks or Mike Landau. Someone who you could tell "make it sound like [fill in the blank]" with the former, or make it explode into lyrical and dramatic arena rock, like the latter.

Gorge, Friday, 2 July 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Downloaded McBride's Shine from Amazon last night minus a couple tunes I'd sampled and thought were unneccessary. I like it. "Ride" is second to the lead-off cut in interest. I vaguely remember a video for it, or hearing it somewhere, so apparently it didn't catch on as much as "Wrong Baby Wrong."

She made a Pat Benatar-like record, with a much lighter touch and without the blazing axe of Giraldo and the attack it brings. Fine by me for the tunes.

Didn't know "Wrong Baby Wrong" was written by Robert Ellis Orall, a name I've heard for years but for which I still can't conjure up a picture.

Gorge, Friday, 2 July 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Dierks' bluegrass thing: gamblin' and death are essential Nashville tropes from way back. I wrote something about the record and said the Dylan and U2 covers were honorable enough, far as it goes; and the whole point of Dierks is his road-dog liberal persona--an example of Nashville outreach. Which is also why he made a bluegrass record when the biggest thing around right now IS bluegrass, roots, gypsy fuckin' swing and all the rest. No matter how hard I try, and I do appreciate a lot of bluegrass, love the Stanley Brothers, and even like Ricky Skaggs' band despite Skaggs' know-nothing politics (he has some great hair, too), I can't get with bluegrass' formalism--its cleanliness--for more than about 15 minutes at a pop. Clarence White is perhaps an exception. I went back and listened to Dierks again and the songs are just about nothing--the Dylan isn't, sure--unless you think "goin' up on the ridge" to fuck your girl away from Society is an idea or "achin'" and "heartbreakin'" is a good rhyme, I don't. Or songs about being a "roving gambler." Pure formalism, and sure, there's some fine pickin' in all of it, what Nashville record doesn't have it? And altho I'm not a bluegrasser, I do appreciate stuff like Cadillac Sky a lot--at least song structures are fucked with, solos are edited, and so forth--someone's thinking, but I hear the Dierks as another release from Capitol Nashville, plug in bluegrass formula and collect songs. Enjoyable enough as a diversion but content nil, and the reason I like the blues is that it gives the concept some room to breathe. Dierks is a singles artist--I think his early singles are fairly great but his albums-as-albums are tedious, plus he's a marginal singer at best. I hear more soul in Dave Matthews. The only difference between Dierks and something even less interesting--like the L.A. quintet Rose's Pawn Shop, who are coming to Nashville next week and playing the 45-capacity venue the Basement while Dierks is filling up the stadia--is the marketing clout of Capitol Records. No discernible diff in singing, of course the big-name pickers on Dierks' record are better, but the concept is the same--country rock with banjos and fiddles. For me, "Up on the Ridge" is just fatally simple-minded. I'm sure he fucked her up on the ridge and smoked some very good weed, or is that the other way around, and her daddy never caught on, he's such a nice young man.

Chuck asked about Don Williams. I suppose I like him all right, but never really attended to him beyond the hits. Very lulling singer.

Escovedo isn't as good in my book as Chuck Prophet, with whom Alejandro has worked. And I'm aware that Prophet is kind of a third-hand artiste too, being a typical Chiltonian in the American weirdo vein. But Chuck seems mostly light-hearted even when he's trying hard, whereas Escovedo seems overwrought almost always. For me, the voice just doesn't justify the production or the pretensions, but many people think he's great.

ebbjunior, Friday, 2 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

"Lulling" is a perfect description for Don Williams' voice. "If Hollywood Don't Need You (Honey, I Still Do)" is the most interesting of his hits, though it seems like "You Believed in Me" and "Lord I Hope This Day Is Good" are the only singles of his with any recurrent presence, at least on the local classic country station.

Escovedo is fine enough at what he does-- the lack of hooks has always been a problem-- but I agree that Prophet is better in filling that niche. Todd Snider is too hit or miss and is usually too pleased with himself when he hits. For my money, Fred Eaglesmith has the most distinct point of view and most interesting songcraft of that particular demo.

I've cooled somewhat on the LBT record since my initial recommendation upthread, though it's still a sight better than Lady Antebellum or, say, Chatham County Line.

jon_oh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I clearly need to regroup and recalibrate my Dierks defense. Will hold off on that for now. Again; think it's a good album, not a great one. (And I have tended to find him effective or better as a singer.)

Have never gotten Chuck Prophet, fwiw (at least not his own albums, only two of which I've heard, I believe, and it's possible I didn't give them the time they deserved -- pretty sure he's shown up in the credits of other people's albums that I like more.) (Whose? I dunno.)

Best new country song I heard on the radio this weekend, driving to visit wife's relatives in the east Texas woods and back: Don't think there was one. Best old country song I heard that I didn't know: "CC Waterback," which is apparently by George Jones and Merle Haggard, from 1982. Best Regional Mexican song: something with a chorus that seemed to go "aqui hay amor," which google seems to attribute to either Take That (fairly positive it wasn't them) or a song called "Mi Niña Bonita" by an apparent Venezuelan reggaeton duo called Chio and Nacho, but I'm pretty sure the song I heard had nothing to do with reggaeton, either -- unless reggaeton has changed a lot since I lived in Queens.

Notes on the new Mother Truckers album: "Alien Girl" has a T. Rex riff; "Break-Up Sex" sounds kind of like the Faces; "Keep It Simple" seems to be an attempt at a neo-soul ballad (and it's fine, but I still don't get why anybody would consider it the best track on the album); "Size Of The Sun" reminds me of Meat Puppets in Grateful Dead mode; "Summer Of Love" is an obvious ZZ Top move and simulateneously the most metal and most county song on the album; "Van Tour" is sort of a post-Replacements college rock novelty thing (about being a small time road band, obviously -- a country band, actually) but I like it anyway. Would like it more if Teal Collins sang it rather than her husband Josh Zee. Like George says (and Josh apparently admits), the guy can't sing as good as he plays guitar. His plain voice reminds me of somebody specific in the post-Westerberg college nerd rock realm, but I can't place who -- Dave Pirner, maybe? Probably not, but somebody like that. Album as a whole is vaguely Stonesish, guitar and rhythmwise.

xhuxk, Monday, 5 July 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"county" = "country", obv.

Mother Truckers also seem to hint at times at doing the John & Exene/Richard & Linda/Womack & Womack/Ashford & Simpson marriage rock "thing," I think, but not as much as I wish they did.

xhuxk, Monday, 5 July 2010 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I really liked Chuck Prophet's Dreaming Waylon's Dream (s?), brought out the spring in Waylon's musical dream, and the rock, though not as heavy as Waylon's collaboration with teenage garage prodigy Shooter--this is the real beardo country power pop. Also a good Austin City Limits several years before that. Never heard enough Green On Red to remember how he was with them; how was he? Hey xhuxk, dug your Rhapsody blog Fourth of July list (and the chance to hear all those firecracker songs back to back). I also like, "I remember the Fourth of July/Runnin' through the backwoods bare--Bawwn on the Baahhhyoo" and maybe Van's "Almost Independence Day", but I don't remember it well enough (early-ish 70s, so I'm guessing either festive or boo-hoo ironic)

dow, Monday, 5 July 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, and thanks for Dreaming Waylon's, Ebb! (Made my Top Ten)

dow, Monday, 5 July 2010 07:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Huh, I actually thought my 4th of July thing (especially the intro graph) was fairly perfunctory and uninspired (partly because Rhapspody turns out not to carry Van's 4th song, of either of Springsteen's early ones -- didn't think about "Saturday in the Park" by Chicago 'til too late, and yeah, that Creedence one would've been good had it occured to me), but here's a link if anybody still cares. (Also still clueless about whether most people celebrated the 4th this year on Saturday the 3rd, Sunday the 4th, or when, or if everybody gets Monday off work):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/06/july4.html

And as for new country songs on the radio, I just remembered I heard James Wesley's "Real," which, on one listen, I thought wasn't bad. (Had liked his low-charting "Jackson Hole" earlier this year; seems like somebody to maybe keep an eye on.) Thought Billy Currington's new song about being good at drinking beer wasn't absolutely horrible, despite the repeated Bud Light product placement, but I was more interested to learn that he considers his biggest musical influence Kenny Rogers.

Turns out Chico (oops) and Nacho's "Mi Niña Bonita" is in fact #6 on the Latin Songs chart this week, and nowhere on the Regional Mexican chart -- still need to check it and find out if that's the one I liked.

xhuxk, Monday, 5 July 2010 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Meant "or" not "of either of Springteen's..." (which would be "4th Of July, Asbury Park /Sandy/" and his own "Independence Day," fwiw.)

Bottom of Billboard's country songs chart this week. No idea who the first two are. Wonder if Nickelback's jealous the third one made it.

58 NEW 1 Not That Far Away, Jennette McCurdy
P.Worley (B.Daly,R.Proctor,J.McCurdy )
Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 58
59 NEW 1 Makes Me Go (La La), Williams Riley
N.Golden,D.George (D.George,B.Allmand,D.Myrick )
Golden Nashville DIGITAL | Nine North | 59
60 NEW 1 Hey, Soul Sister, Train 2
M.Terefe,Espionage,G.Wattenberg (P.Monahan,E.Lind,A.Bjorklund )
Columbia BNA | 60

xhuxk, Monday, 5 July 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

we celebrated last nite up in extreme nw Davidson County--grillin' some mighty fine chops and sausage and corn-in-the-shuck. happy holidays!

I think part of my problem with Dierks' record, going back to that, is that I think bluegrass/acoustic/"roots" is and has been a dominant mode in country for a decade...shaggy folk music being part of that equation. I also think it's easy for me and perhaps some other folks to underestimate the crafty way Nashville appropriates "liberalism" in the service of its outreach program, as per Dierks and Dylan and U2. But you know, it's always been good at that kind of outreach. I also am aware that thinking about country requires one to accept them old tropes and conceits, as on the Dierks record. I also think the Zac Brown Band is very important indeed in what I hear as a definitively post-jam band approach to country that Dierks seems to embrace...? Zat seem true?

Todd Snider is mentioned above. I have to say that he does whatever it is wry stoned troubadours do, very well indeed; and I with my admittedly cynical view on such things and the pop-folk readymades those sentiments of dodgin' the law and so forth are expressed in, have to say I think "East Nashville Skyline" is one fine record indeed, and his last one, with Don Was (same dude who produced Elizabeth Cook) is a bit more domesticated and therefore less interesting to me, but still wry, stoned...he could be in Brooklyn but he is here in good old Nashville with its severely underestimated housing stock and proximity to Kitty Wells Blvd. (real street in Madison, Tenn., just east of East Nashville) and should make an album with the Silver Jews' David Berman if he had any sense.

Got a pile of records to go thru, including the new Marty Stuart, Joe Diffie, and this Jerod dude...

ebbjunior, Monday, 5 July 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably didn't make myself totally clear above on Dierks--his publicists here really pushed the bluegrass-fusion angle to us. It is a good and commercial concept, and I got the idea that his people were concerned that mixing bluegrass and country would be a tough sell. Whereas I thought and think it's no big deal--totally commercial. I'd be real interested to peek into some CD collections in trucks and homes all over the heartland of America and see how many country fans have bluegrass records stuck into the side doors of their vehicles. Krauss for sure, but Nickel Creek and all that, would the average country fan be into that? Or Dailey and Vincent? Stuff on Rounder in general?

ebbjunior, Monday, 5 July 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

and have to mention that I was hanging with a friend the other day, this person is not a country fan too much. "You like George Jones?" he asked. Sure. So he pulls out an original 12" of the infamous "Ya Ba Da Ba Do" cut off "One Woman Man" from '88 or so, the song about Elvis and Fred Flintstone. With a picture of George and drawings of F.f. and E.P. This is a fairly rare little item. Had THREE copies of it and gave me one. That's like one of my favorite songs ever. (Went on a big Jones kick this winter/spring, borrowed a bunch of Jones stuff including the Bear Family Musicor box, one of them, anyway) and some other things, and made about 4 discs of prime Jones, mid '60s. "Where Grass Don't Grow" and "Small Town Laboring Man" and others, his best period.

But "The King Is Dead"--they don't write 'em like that no more.

ebbjunior, Monday, 5 July 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Maybe. Thing is, I'm mostly a bluegrass hater myself. I like some of Ricky Skaggs's '80s sellout stuff, and I like an LP by the Whites if that counts (wrote about both of those upthread somewhere), thought one Greencards CD a couple years ago was tolerable, own one 18-song Rhino CD of classics (Appalachian Stomp), but generally I have very little use for the style. So I basically expected the Bentley album to be an absolute snooze. Turned out, though, to be not really all that bluegrass -- it was just a bunch of good tunes, a decent Nashville county album that managed to stretch boundaries a little bit here and there, and yeah, when I head it, Skaggs's best old albums came to mind. If it had been as bluegrass as hyped, pretty sure I would've liked it less. (And right, Dierks is a guy who was more or less mixing bluegrass into his pop country all along, give or take his previous album which I really didn't like much, so what was the big deal? Press release didn't seem to even be able to decide whether the new record was a departure or not. Not sure I can, either.) But yeah, I also definitely made the Zac Brown connection in my head: Hasn't Bentley been booked on summer rock festival bills, like Lollapalooza? And he obviously has no qualms singing about marijuana these days. So "post-jam band" sounds about right. Except jam bands, like bluegrass, usually aren't half so tuneful.

xhuxk, Monday, 5 July 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

"County" for "country" again! Same typo, third time in 12 hours -- if you count the Skatt Bros discussion linked below, relevant here partly since it features shirtless cowboys. (Also "head" for "heard," oh well.)

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

Btw, been thinking about what George said above about Little Big Town being perceived as a mini-Fleetwood Mac probably not being the best long-term marketing plan, and it makes sense; actually, my wife had made a similar point to me, when we were listening to the new album in the car and I was complaining about it. ("Maybe they don't want to be Fleetwood Mac.") Truth is, only a couple songs on the new album clearly fit the Mac template anyway. Just wish those, and the others, were better (though who knows, maybe a few will grow up me over time.)

xhuxk, Monday, 5 July 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Lady Antebellum's "Stars Tonite" went into the CMT Top 20 and seems to have quickly passed
LBT's "Little White Church." It's more arena rock with a big hook and power chords driving it.

Gorge, Monday, 5 July 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the papers I write for asked me to do a little tour-preview blurb thing on Brad Paisley, so I checked out four albums - Mud On The Tires, Time Well Wasted, 5th Gear and American Saturday Night - and now I'm kind of a fan. This is the most suburban country music I've ever heard - it's like he wrote these songs for dads in khaki shorts to listen to while mowing the lawn on weekends. I mean, he sings about working at a mall food court as a teenager! I think he's the country equivalent of David Brooks. Plus, I like his voice and his guitar playing. I can easily see myself listening to this stuff again, even though the piece is already finished and submitted.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 5 July 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I still think "Alcohol's" his high point, although I liked Fifth Gear a bit more than Tine Well Wasted for awhile. Don't anymore. I appreciate the craftiness that went into American Saturday Night but everyone here knows I think his pandering and joy of consumer electronics shtick went over the top on it. Probably why I don't like "On-line" much either. "Ticks" and "All I Wanted Was a Car" are repeats, though.

I definitely see the lasting appeal to the umc 4th of July meathead, though, who ae currently making the video for "Water" hot on CMT.

Gorge, Monday, 5 July 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, some minus points for Paisley's bonus track pushing of Little Jimmy Dickens. Who's old stuff I found virtually intolerable when curiosity finally drove me to find it.

Gorge, Monday, 5 July 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

"concerned that mixing bluegrass and country would be a tough sell"--so the Dixie Chicks reportedly had to fight for the right to banjo and fiddle on major label releases, but sold ninety verzullion of those. The suits may have thought of that, which is why they let him do it, or decided it was cheaper to keep him by indulging him, albeit with some doubts trickling down to the publicists. Will it be controversial for some, like Alan Jackson's primal country onslaught unmanned by Alison Krauss's misty mountain hippie changeling wiles?

dow, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

So today I subjected Dierks's suddenly controversial new album to the all-important car test, which I probably should have done before, and I decided that Edd's probably more right about it than I thought. Still like a lot of it, but even most of the songs I like do sound more pat than I'd figured, where songwriting and arrangements are concerned -- that's definitely the case with shorter, more upbeat tunes like "Rovin' Gambler," "Foolin' Around," and "Love Grows Wild" (cleverest and catchiest of those three.) And the album actually is a bit more bluegrass than his earlier ones, and hence more polite than it should be, maybe partly because Dierks is such a laid back guy he's not going to exert much effort fighting against the genre's grain (assuming that makes any sense.) "Draw Me A Map" and "You're Dead to Me" (which I still say has a fairly canny revenge lyric) could definitely use more energy, and I don't think I even realized "Bad Angel" (the one with Miranda and Jamey) was supposed to be a blues until Edd called it that; it obviously is one, both structurally and because it's about evil influences at the crossroads, but Dierks doesn't seem capable of getting much blues feel into his singing. Most blatantly bluegrass arrangements, almost a little ornate in spots, are the three tracks with the Punch Brothers -- namely, the two covers and "Rovin' Gambler." And I guess it's possible that I could overrate his version of "Señor," seeing how I've never knowingly heard Street Legal. Two best tracks, perversely, seem to be saved for the very end of the record --"Bottle To The Bottom," a well-written and appropriately coming-down- melodied down-and-outer courtesy Kristofferson, has what's probably Dierk's toughest singing here; the voice has real gravity to it. So too bad Kristofferson eventually chimes in too, and he sings like a guy with a tracheotomy (was always a bad singer, just keeps getting worse) and he's downright painful to listen to. "Dark As a Dungeon"-styled dirge "Down In The Mine" is the album closer and the best song, as far as I'm concerned, and apparently unlike Edd I really think the verse about the hardscrabble boondock economic quandary of either manufacturing drugs or shoveling coal and your own grave is something that's never been sung about much; it'd be better (and darker) if the drug was crystal meth (and I don't think I'm saying that just because I've been reading Nick Reding's Methland: The Death And Life Of An American Small Town -- about Oelwein, Iowa -- and Netflixing Breaking Bad). But Bentley still gets good quivering melody out of "you can grow marijuana way back in the pines/or work for the man down in the mines," so I really don't mind so much. Also possible I'd think less of the record if I listened to more bluegrass in general; hard to say. As is, I keep wishing the speedier, borderline old-timey gambling and fooling-around reels had a fraction of the musical and lyrical wit of something off, say, Have Moicy!. But I still like the album okay -- on par with Josh Turner and Gary Allan's 2010 albums, a marginal keeper, not that I'd recommend folks actually buy the thing.

Turns out the Latin song I heard and liked on the car radio over the weekend was in fact Chino (spelled it right this time!) and Nacho's "Mi Niña Bonita" -- so, nothing to do with Regional Mexican. Still thought I detected something country in its sound, which is not a feeling I've gotten from reggaeton before. But maybe it was just where I was driving.

And yeah, Dixie Chicks another "bluegrass-ish stuff I like" exception.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

My favorite Paisley ballad is on 5th Gear: "If Love Was a Plane."

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

New Reba McEntire single, "Turn On Your Radio," which shipped to radio today.

Offhand, it's the first country single I can recall that specifically name-checks Twitter (and there's also a reference to texting), and it sounds like a Carrie Underwood cast-off.

It's heresy in most country circles, but I've never been all that big on Reba outside of a handful of isolated singles (see also: Strait, George). But how balls-out desperate she's been to remain commercially relevant alongside Underwood, Sugarland, and Taylor Swift over the last few years has at least been interesting to watch, if not anything particularly great to hear.

jon_oh, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dark As a Dungeon"-styled dirge "Down In The Mine" is the album closer and the best song, as far as I'm concerned, and apparently unlike Edd I really think the verse about the hardscrabble boondock economic quandary of either manufacturing drugs or shoveling coal and your own grave is something that's never been sung about much.

Yeah, I guess that is a subject country hasn't gotten to--so now I have to see what other songs that exhibit this quandry might be out there. And right, this is a good song.

Any of you heard this rather amazing piece of history? Two discs, and note representative song titles (esp. #17, hmm...):

11. Hello, I’m Johnny Credit - Johnny Credit
12. Howard Hughes Is Alive And Well - Sonny Hall
13. I’m The Mail She’s Waiting For - Chuck Wood
14. (I Want To Be) A Truck Driver’s Sweetheart - Marcie Dickerson
15. Mom And Dad’s Waltz - Tokyo Matsu
16. The Baltimore Incident - George Kent
17. D.O.A O.D - Jackie Burns

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean we got a lot of meth labs around here. Cheatham County. But would the quandary of choosing between being an outlaw (moonshine in olden days) and going straight be an old one--oppression by economic forces? Just saw on the news today that farmers around the Gulf are turning their fields into landing strips for migratory birds, with federal money apparently on its way in return for, one hopes, preventing them from landing in oil-drenched lands...

And right, Have Moicy! is certainly more to the point for me at least--also been listening to the earlier Holy Modal Rounders stuff recently.

I like the idea of Up on the Ridge--I still want to find out how the bluegrass audience overlaps with the straight country audience. A label like Rounder, with its bluegrassy singer-songwriters in the mode of Claire Lynch, is kinda like Reprise Records used to be in the singer-songwriter era; and Alison Krauss seems about as universal a country artist as we're likely to see in this place and time. ?
Personally, I like the idea of Little Jimmy Dickens. Reba is certainly a powerful singer, but I've never cared for her myself.

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Edd, I have an old (uk-issue) vinyl comp which has a subset of that Plantation CD - it's great, and it's never easy to find those kinds of country oddities in the UK. I don't know why Phonogram UK would have picked it up - maybe for Jeannie C Riley after Harper Valley PTA was a hit, but I'm glad they did.

There's a storming soul version of "Somebody's Gonna Plow Your Field" (slightly renamed "Somebody Else Is Gonna Plow Your Field") by Margie Hendrix on Sound Stage Seven.

Tim, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link

NYT's Ben Ratliff calls the Punch Brothers "acoustic prog-rock," which might explain why the Bentley tracks they're on hit me as ornate:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/arts/music/06punch.html

So, anybody out there want to defend Rosanne Cash's Somewhere In The Stars, from 1982? Main revelation about it is that apparently she got boring earlier than I thought. Though I've still never heard her first couple albums, from 1978 and 1980; maybe Seven Year Ache (which I've always liked a lot -- 1981) was the anomaly. '85's Rhythm And Romance had at least a couple good, borderline new wavey poppish singles ("Hold On" and "I Don't Know Why You Don't Want Me"), and '87's King's Record Shop, was, as far as I could tell, her last fun one before sinking into adult alternative introversion haze in the '90s....But anyway, Xgau gave Somewhere a B+; said "Third Rate Romance" was its worst track and still pretty good. Sounds more to me like it's the best track, and both the Amazing Rhythm Aces and Sammy Kershaw did it a lot better. Xgau correct in saying it's a hard song to screw up, but Rosanne sings it Ronstadt-style, like she's got no idea what the words are about. (Also, fwiw, Ronstadt's new wave '80 Mad Love is way better.) Besides that, there's a duet with Rosanne's dad on a Tom T. Hall song ("How I Got To Memphis") which was never one of his best, and there are two John Hiatt covers that suggest he was getting boring earlier than I thought, too. ("I Look For Love" even hints that he had an Imperial Bedroom phase, yuck, unless the prissy arrangement was new here.) And Rosanne tries some proto-Norah Jones lounge tedium too. A major lack of hooks, over all.

Also been trying to get into Baille And The Boys' first LP, from 1987. I like the idea of them: Girl lead singer with two harmonizing guys (one her husband), from Newark, New Jersey, of all places. LP went Top 30 country; supposedly they were insprired by the Supremes, Four Tops, and Beatles. (In fact, the non-husband also did Beatlemania on Broadway at some point.) Ken Barnes gave them Single Of The Month in his Creem "45 Revelations" column in January 1988: "The harmony arrangements on the LP are sumptuous, and Kathy Baille's voice is pure liquid heartbreak. It all works to perfection on 'He's Letting Go,' a slow-building, taut and tense tale of disillusion/dissolution...When Baille sings 'The moon is bluer than the midnight sky/He's gonna let me go,' it truly seems like the end of the world." Well, not to me it doesn't, not quite, not yet at least. Whole album, and especially that song, are real pretty though. Maybe I just need to listen to it more.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, not Rosanne's dad on that Tom T. cover -- her (then) husband, Rodney Crowell. Who sounds like he's trying to sing like her dad.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Drive-By Truckers have several songs that address the choice between cooking meth and going straight, so that's a topic that's at least been touched upon. And meth is definitely the bigger industry than marijuana in places like Harlan County, but it's not like Dierks' "Down in the Mine" is really off the mark, either.

I still want to find out how the bluegrass audience overlaps with the straight country audience. A label like Rounder, with its bluegrassy singer-songwriters in the mode of Claire Lynch, is kinda like Reprise Records used to be in the singer-songwriter era; and Alison Krauss seems about as universal a country artist as we're likely to see in this place and time.

From my experiences with attending Bluegrass festivals here in Kentucky, I would say that the overlap between the Bluegrass and contemporary country audiences is negligible. If country is popular music's most aesthetically (and politically) conservative genre, then Bluegrass is its lunatic fringe: Acts like Krauss, Nickel Creek, and Cherryholmes all have a sizable legion of vocal detractors for having moved ever farther away from "pure" Bluegrass music. Generally, the Bluegrass purists who are big on artists like Rhonda Vincent & The Rage (though even she has some people who consider her a sell-out), The Gibson Brothers, or Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver don't have albums by Sugarland or Gary Allan in their trucks. And since Bluegrass is still such a niche genre, I haven't run across a ton of people who are just casual Bluegrass fans, and most of the ones I have met are a younger demo that came to Bluegrass via someone like The Avett Brothers, Old Crow Medicine Show, or Punch Brothers, and they aren't really listening to Dierks Bentley, either.

As for how representative that impression is, I can't say. Kentucky obviously takes its Bluegrass music very, very seriously, so there may be a more casual approach to it elsewhere. But around these parts, saying how much you liked Dierks Bentley's "Bluegrass album" would be a poor life choice in certain company. Though, for the record, I happen to like the album quite a lot.

jon_oh, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, what you say about Kentucky fans seems about right to me. Bluegrass people are as funny and as scruffy as blues fans. Here it's a pretty big hub for bluegrass, obviously, and what you're saying is that younger folks into 'grass aren't into mainstream country so much.

Acts like Krauss, Nickel Creek, and Cherryholmes all have a sizable legion of vocal detractors for having moved ever farther away from "pure" Bluegrass music.

Interesting as well. Of course, I'd argue that the various neo-grass combinations--and there's like a ton of these bands here in town, again obviously, from the Time Jumpers (with a bit of western swing in there) to Old Crow...all sort of this strange combination of "songwriting" a la what I think is behind all this shit, just country-rock, post Progressive Grass textures and sonics added to it. But songful, trying to write original material within the confines of bluegrass.

So I wonder how many new fans Nickel Creek, Cherryholmes or the band I wrote about above, Rose's Pawn Shop (who are kind of interesting but don't offer anything all that new to the equation--mixtures of rockabilly, Django Reinhardt jazzy old-tyme '30s chord progressions, and western swing a.k.a. "jump blues" have been around forever--in fact, that kind of Eklektik NPR shit is the foundation of the modern commercial bluegrass movement, which is why I sorta have to laugh at it sometimes), get by crossing over? Again, RPS are playing the Basement here, a small club. Played here a few years back. So you have to contrast that with Dierks' record, which is actually about exactly the same goddam thing, except it's not so NPR-ready. But Nashville wants any demographic it can get and must've figured, Dierks wants to do this and he's already kinda bluegrassy (actually Byrdsy a la its later phase of Karefully Kalibrated Kountry licks and sonic mystery of a sort), so it'll make a good thing for everyone to talk about. Like I'm doing here.

So plug in songwriters (recall some good ones on Dierks' record, like Shawn Camp, I think) but tailor it to Dierks, is what I think happened. And get some outside material and let's do U2 and Dylan, for the "concept." Nashville has always done weird versions of the classic rock canon. It's totally plugged into the way Nashville does things--all these other neo-progressive 'grass bands are really bands, even if they're just playing country rock with fiddles and banjos and Textures.

Here the bluegrass audience seems fairly across the board but skewing toward around 40 as a median age...

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Without having the actual sales stats, I'd hesitate to project as to how many more or how many new fans the "Progressive Grass" bands like Time Jumpers or Nickel Creek or the SteelDrivers gain as compared to the traditional Bluegrass acts. But the fact that acts like Krauss and Carolina Chocolate Drops do fit squarely into the NPR / AAA demo gives them a good deal more exposure than someone like Doyle Lawson or Dailey & Vincent routinely get: I've heard Old Crow Medicine Show's singles played in places like Starbucks and Chipotle, but Rhonda Vincent isn't on those playlists.

I'll check out Rose's Pawn Shop, if only because I'm not familiar with them, and I'm enough of a casual fan of / apologist for both progressive and traditional bluegrass that they might be to my liking.

And I would agree that the median age for most of the Bluegrass festivals I've attended is north of 40, which is yet another reason that I usually feel a bit out-of-place there. The atmosphere can be exclusionary at times.

In my review of the Punch Brothers' album, I said that it seems like they're aiming to be a stringband version of Radiohead, so I can see the "acoustic prog-rock" tag. They really don't scan as a Bluegrass band most of the time, and there's a fussiness and show-offy tendency to what they're doing that might be off-putting to some. It may be my years of classical training rearing their head, but I respect the sophistication of the band's compositions and think the songs are strong enough on their own merits.

jon_oh, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I found a copy of Rosanne Cash's Somewhere in the Stars I got cheap. It always struck me as excessively straight--but it's a real good MOR record nonetheless. Nice arrangements like the strings and woodwinds of "I Wonder." She sings quite well too and looks quite good on the cover, maybe never looked better. But the bg vocals and electric piano and freeze-dried licks of "Oh Yes I Can" are kinda banal. But you can hear her debt to commercial soul music I guess, altho I do not believe "I'm a dancer" when she sings it. I also like the way she admits she's getting a bit older and doesn't fit in and sorta flaunts her well-earned wisdom on "Looking for a Corner." Not bad at all, in fact quite good. But then there's some fairly banal yuppie soul altho again I like her line about her man's toupee. I dunno, where's Crystal Gayle when you need her? I like Hall's "Memphis" but she's too genteel for it, and I hear what she's trying to do as a singer to "Third Rate Romance," take it down a notch...fitting into the theme of slightly bemused domesticity here. But maybe too recessive a singer for such material, which really needs to the kick of--you know, rhythm aces or whatever. I hear this as good taste running rampant over what could've been even better, and you know me, I like good taste.

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Rose's Pawn Shop (who are kind of interesting... contrast that with Dierks' record, which is actually about exactly the same goddam thing, except it's not so NPR-ready.

Meaning: He doesn't sing as bad? (Actually, I'm not positive about that. But when I gave that Rose's Pawn Shop record a play after it came in the mail a month or so ago, I thought a few songs had enough energy to be potentially good, but just couldn't get pass the lifeless vocals.)

Edd also mentioned Megafaun above; I only got a couple songs into that one before giving up. Any reason I should be spending more time with it?

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, fwiw, Old Crow Medicine Show also did a "Methamphetamine" song on their '08 album Tennessee Pusher. Only Drive By Truckers one I know offhand is "You And Your Crystal Meth"; no doubt I'd know more if I always listened closely to their words (which aren't always delivered in a manner that inspires me to do so.) Which other DBT songs qualify?

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I found a copy of Rosanne Cash's Somewhere in the Stars I got cheap. It always struck me as excessively straight--but it's a real good MOR record nonetheless. Nice arrangements like the strings and woodwinds of "I Wonder." She sings quite well too and looks quite good on the cover, maybe never looked better.

The one album from her "classic" period I don't own, although I do know "I Wonder." Nice review.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

mentioned Megafaun above; I only got a couple songs into that one before giving up. Any reason I should be spending more time with it?

Well, I am old enough to remember Moby Grape's great 20 Granite Creek and Skip Spence's Oar and McGuinness Flint--which "California Days" reminds me of. And yeah, the singing is sorta light, altho the guy sounds sorta like Brian Wilson or Mike Love in the intro of the good-timey bluesy Norman Greenbaum thing of "Eagle." I mean OK, McGuinness Flint even did "International" better than Mary Hopkin did and Megafaun has the same kinda ricky-ticky feel. Or "Eagle" is also like Nilsson or today's youth's version of early-'70s AM pop a la "Spaceman" or "Coconut." And I hear some prog in there--the whole way they go from vocal section to instrumental section and try to layer it over the drums (which could be better) as about 3:35 into "Eagle" is in that vein. I mean a lot of this is kind of stretched thin, but they at least are trying to do something different, not that the sax solo in "Eagle" is actually something I would recommend.

But what makes me like the record is just that, they'll try anything. I spent a lot of time over the last year going back and really trying to listen to a lot of similar music from the late '60s and early '70s, I mean all the Family albums (can we draw a line from Traffic and Family to Beck to the Megafaun EP?), McGuinness Flint (already a big fan of Coulson, Dean, McGuinness Flint's Lo and Behold and Ashton, Gardner and Dyke and the Incredible String Band...and Bob Mosley's solo album from '72, all that slightly hairy music from that era. And all groups who would try anything. So I would say I prefer the more compressed pop aesthetic of "Volunteers" with its banjo and all to the more overtly bluegrass-based stuff we've been discussing above. But yeah, vocals are a problem, but I like the overall musical effort here--this is pretty commercial, too. I think they do what Deer Tick and the Avetts, maybe, try to do, but more genially and perhaps more stoned. The electronics seem grafted on but again, so what. Going back to the old stuff I checked out over the last year or so, not as good as the Insect Trust, those guys had a really cool female vocalist...

ebbjunior, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

for that matter, I even like the instrumental on the Megafaun EP. Nothing too fancy but it's kinda sweet.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean too--Norman Greenbaum is due a reappraisal any day. He was as good as Billy Swan, I think. Petaluma is a masterpiece.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, always meant to check out more of his, other than "Spirit In The Sky." Apparently he was usually more in the Hurley/Rounders etc. groove, with members of Dan Hicks And His Hot Licks, Sopwith Camel etc playing on some tracks too. Running the Velvet Acres goat milk farm his royalities (he was also Dr. West, of "The Eggplant That Ate Chicago"), but apparently not all business. Petaluma seems to be cut out, dang. Very appealing decription of Megafaun too Speaking of Todd Snider Have you heard the Shel trib Twistable Turnable Man, Ebb? Some dud bait from alt rockers like Jim James and Black Francis, but mostly pretty credible; well hep spread the word anyway.

dow, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yow, typos! Speaking of Family and Deer Tick, McAuley's voice reminds me of Roger Chapman's, called up for country duty, re pushing through country fatalism--but the word seems to be that album three isn't quite up to the first two? We'll see.

dow, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, fwiw, Old Crow Medicine Show also did a "Methamphetamine" song on their '08 album Tennessee Pusher. Only Drive By Truckers one I know offhand is "You And Your Crystal Meth"; no doubt I'd know more if I always listened closely to their words (which aren't always delivered in a manner that inspires me to do so.) Which other DBT songs qualify?

I tend to prefer OCMS's couple of cocaine songs to that one.

As for the Truckers: In addition to "You and Your Crystal Meth," "Outfit," from Decoration Day, includes the line, "Have fun but stay clear of the needle," in its chorus, and "Aftermath, USA" from A Blessing & A Curse, details a line about a bathtub full of crystal meth and a blood-spattered sink ("It's all worse than you think").

I think they do what Deer Tick and the Avetts, maybe, try to do, but more genially and perhaps more stoned. The electronics seem grafted on but again, so what.

I'll second all of that. Thought that Megafaun was a solid record, though I can easily see why it might not play to everyone's tastes.

jon_oh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

3 relevant Singles Jukeboxings:

Laura Bell Bundy "Giddy On Up"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2505

Little Big Town, "Little White Church"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2507

Train, "Hey Soul Sister" (since it's now officially a minor country hit)

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2027

xhuxk, Friday, 9 July 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Sony blocked the video at singlesjukebox, at least in my country, so went to Train's website. Wonder if anyone's playing the 6:45 version of "Hey, Soul Sister." I had to sit through the goddam vamping to hear this guy intone "tonight" and "one of my kind." I can hear why it's a hit, it's catchy bubblegum and it's funny--the line about chest hair and in general, the whole fucking thing is funny. I actually like "Save Me San Francisco" a lot better--great glam in the British tradition, kind of a slight late Move/ELO feel (note the pianos flourishing at the end). "Rock and roll and disco/Save me S.F." and they mention making coin or something in the Tenderloin. I mean shit, it's a great song. Guy got his gig because he can sing high and loud, so I'd guess he learned his shit in disco cover bands. He can sing.

Uh, Laura Bell Bundy, I hate her immediately, and I hate "Giddy on Up" and never want to hear that shit again. Not that I have anything against country-disco-funk, in the abstract it's kind of a cool track, but the minds of people who'd make such an inane video...terrible video, she's too old to dance around like that and I guess somebody somewhere sorta conflated some bad neo-westerns and Tarantino dance sequences...Laura Bell doesn't interest me at all as a sex object. I hate people who sit around and construct these kind of stupid video ideas for themselves and then dance around. She knows what cowboys smell like 'cause she goes thru their shirts, she's gonna fuck the one who isn't impressed by her or her stupid video, see what I mean? But sure, interesting enough as a track. And I guess Trace can do this kinda funk thing so she can too, I guess I'd like Laura Bell better if she were more like Lizzy Mercier Descloux or dressed in a robot suit or something.

I wrote about Ronnie Milsap recently, I missed the thing with him and Trace and Capitol, this single Milsap made to benefit EMTs and firefighters and Trace apparently had Capitol's approval to sing on it, but then they wanted a piece of it after the single hit and Trace left Capitol...

Found a copy of Freddie North's 1975 Cuss the Wind, which everyone else may know about. Really taut, incisive, varied arrangements in a very well-thought-out soul/country mode with blues guitar, strings, horns--and North's sorta Joe Simon wail over it all, and just amazing songs. Every track somewhat unexpected, every track great, including one about rural poverty in which the guy's wife falls into the river she's so worn out from working the fields, and an awesome cover of Tony Joe's "Rainy Night in Georgia" that if anything is better than Brook Benton's. A really great record, a Jerry Williams production so the arrangements are settings--never one knocked-off or slack moment, and his voice really cuts. He did the orig. version of "She's All I Got" that lotsa people did, and Cuss the Wind may be the great country-soul masterpiece of all time, runs about 29 minutes flat.

ebbjunior, Friday, 9 July 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Cut-and-pasted Edd's Laura Bell Bundy graph over on the Jukebox, where it's now being agreed and disagreed with. Definitely think Laura Bell Bundy is way funnier (and way more catchy bubblegum) than Train myself (at least the Train I've listened to, which admittedly isn't a lot.)

Also, already posted this on Rolling Hard Rock, but it sort of fits here too, inasmuch as fiddles and '70s cornbelt boogie-rock connect to country. "Prog On The Prairie: Midwestern Bands Roll Over Beethoven":

http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/2010_201007-essay-prog.html

xhuxk, Friday, 9 July 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I wrote a long-ish review of the single and video for "Giddy On Up" a couple of months back (I'm surprised the single just now turned up on the Jukebox, since it officially dropped out of the country chart last week and "Drop On By" has been announced as the second single). I'm with Chuck on considering it one of my favorite singles of the year thus far-- though it's probably only my 3rd or 4th favorite song from the Shakin' half of Bundy's terrific album-- but I said that the video does the song a serious disservice, as Edd's response bears out.

jon_oh, Friday, 9 July 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Edd, what did you have to say about Ronnie Milsap? I've been picking up a few of his LPs lately, but haven't gone far into the 80s, or later.

Tim, Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Turns out the Latin song I heard and liked on the car radio over the weekend was in fact Chino (spelled it right this time!) and Nacho's "Mi Niña Bonita" -- so, nothing to do with Regional Mexican. Still thought I detected something country in its sound, which is not a feeling I've gotten from reggaeton before. But maybe it was just where I was driving.

It's more merengue than reggaeton anyway. It's okay, but there are dozens of merengue songs from the last decade that I like more, not that I usually know their names, because those details tend to wash over me when it comes to merengue. (The way it used to work when I was still dancing regularly is that I'd become familiar a merengue song from hearing it in a club and then maybe if I were lucky I'd find out later who it was by and what the title was.) The harmonies seem kind of 50ish/early 60sish (in an early rock or maybe R&B way). Possibly that is what you are hearing as country?

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 July 2010 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim, this was a good recent thread:

Ronnie Milsap

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 July 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

(xhuxk, I just discovered there is a pop/reggaeton version of that Chino y Nacho song, so if that's what you heard I can see how it wouldn't have sounded like merengue.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 July 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

(Every time I correct you about something there's always some fact I am missing. I should just stop.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

("correct")

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I do the same thing, all the time. Anyway, this totally sounds right:

The harmonies seem kind of 50ish/early 60sish (in an early rock or maybe R&B way). Possibly that is what you are hearing as country?

Though, regardless of the remix, I don't know how much I'd recognize merengue if I heard it. I always assumed that lots of the fast dance music I heard in Dominican-run bodegas in Queens and lower Park Slope was merengue, but I could've been totally wrong about that. That Chino Y Nacho track didn't even strike me as especially fast, if that matters.

Scrolling back, I also see totally eye-to-eye with Jon Oh here:

I've never been all that big on Reba outside of a handful of isolated singles (see also: Strait, George).

And in fact made that same comparison here, in my review and comments:

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=694

xhuxk, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Some merengue is extremely slow.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 July 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Gave Megafaun another chance (their upcoming album Heretofore -- have never heard any earlier stuff, which may or may not be different.) Reminds me of any number of drowsy, shambly, vaguely rootsy but mostly just plain vague eco-freak indie bands I've momentarily thought might be potentially interesting in the past decade or so but in the long run ultimately determined otherwise for all of them: Fruit Bats (circa Echolocation, the only album of theirs I ever even passingly cared about), Sixth Great Lake, I See Hawks In L.A., maybe My Morning Jacket.
Probably some art-folk period (= zzzzzz) Beck and Wilco in there, too.
Don't hate the record, has some pretty and mildly back-to-the-land evocative parts I guess, but there's not a single track (out of six, in 34 long minutes) that holds my attention all the way through. Also don't get Edd's "they'll try anything" claim -- Laura Bell Bundy's album, for one, seems way more stylistically varied; it's not even close. But then, I never really got what the big deal about Skip Spence's Oar, was, either, and though I still might have a copy of the first Moby Grape LP around here, only song I ever really cared about by them was "Fall On You." So yeah -- different strokes, for sure.

xhuxk, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I have a weakness for...what you call it, avant-folkiedom. Which doesn't always guarantee cohesion or even tunefulness, for sure. A group like Megafaun seems to me to be just self-consciously trying to do something different, I guess is what I mean...saxophones and Four Tet electronic stuff and some weird chords they learned messing around playing guitars. John Fahey and that kind of quietist folk stuff.

For what it's worth, and I'm sure I make this pretty obvious, I just think music like Laura Bell Bundy's isn't about music that much at all, whereas Megafaun are at least paying attention to some qualities you'd call musical, like the aforementioned playing around with...chords, harmonies and so forth. They're both pretty derivative. But I frankly can't understand how any real talent enters into something like "Giddy Up" at all--anybody with the technology and the right dancin' girl can come up with that stuff, plug in and go. I'm interested in musical expression more or less and I don't think the people behind Laura Bell Bundy care about that at all, it's just another hot babe (supposedly) doing her thing in a world made better by Robert Palmer videos. Show biz, and that's fine, I just don't care.

ebbjunior, Monday, 12 July 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I was actually referring to the previous Megafaun album in my comments upthread; my editor just sent me their new one, which I haven't listened to yet. And, like Edd, I share his predilection for "avant-folkiedom." Not to turn the thread into some kind of support group or anything.

I find Edd's take on Laura Bell Bundy pretty fascinating. Again, I think it may be a matter of the severe disservice that the video for "Giddy On Up" does to both the single and to Bundy. Simply looking at the video, I can absolutely see how someone would come to the conclusion that there's no there there-- that it's just a matter of the right technology and the right girl and the right pair of chaps and the right So You Think You Can Dance cast-offs. The video is shrill and grotesque.

But the remainder of her album-- and Chuck may or may not agree on this-- shows a real point-of-view and sense of purpose that I don't get at all from, say, Kellie Pickler or Julianne Hough or Jewel or Jenette McCurdy or Jessie James. And, while I value paying attention to musical qualities, having an actual perspective and voice is something that I value, as well. And, while I understand why she's divisive (most traditionalists seem to want her head on a stake), I think Bundy has that kind of a voice. I'll link through to my review of her album if anyone's interested, but I think it's the most accomplished major label debut to come out of Nashville since Miranda Lambert's Kerosene.

jon_oh, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd have to go back through major label Nashville debuts from the past few years to doublecheck (off the top of my head -- do Flynville Train on Show Dog count?), but yeah, that all sounds more or less right to me. Though I also don't remotely believe Bundy's album lacks "musical" qualities (which Edd seems to be defining weirdly selectively -- and not based so much, if I'm reading him right, on how records actually, you know, musically sound, but on how he perceives those records are made. For one thing, he seems to imply Bundy is just some passive actor with little input on her album's, uh, non-music, and I have no idea where he gets that idea from, especially since she gets a co-songwriting credit for 11 out of 12 songs, including "Giddy On Up" -- I mean, if "anybody with the technology and the right dancin' girl can come up with that stuff," then how come nobody else has? Also not sure why he thinks 29 = an old lady, but whatever.) I value those always fuzzy variables "talent" and "expression," too, but they're hardly the only things that go into making great records. (And after 25 years plus, of course, it won't surprise anyone that's what I think.)

In other news, the first song on the new (forthcoming) Randy Houser album may well have the heftiest drum wallop I've heard all year.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

This discussion makes me wanna hear Megafun! (Hi, my name is Josh and I like John Fahey.) (And the new Four Tet sounds pretty good.)

But what I HAVE heard is the Bundy record, just today for the first time, and did I miss something? Is she controversial? Because she's a carpetbagger or something? I dunno, it was a take-it-or-leave-it for me, but I did admire some of the songs and the playing on it, not to mention her singing, which seemed very talented and expressive. The slow half was too slow for too long, and the fast half, while good, didn't do enough to redeem it. So, while I can imagine people liking it, I'm not sure how often I'd wanna subject myself to it. Will try again.

And if anything, Bundy's album seemed more "musical" than Lambert's albums, even if I enjoyed Lambert's first two more. Instruments are more clearly defined, there's more space and variety and nobody compressed the shit out of it. I caught a couple really nice guitar solos, and the band pulls off all the styles with expertise. So if I think it's only pretty good, it's because I was disappointed with the pacing and the songs. The singing and musicianship are probably its MOST impressive aspects. (Do like "Giddy On Up," song AND video.)

dr. phil, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice review, Jon, though you like the album more than I. I would argue that she's not the only country person (or even woman, if it makes a difference) doing "frank sexuality"--Sara Evans is right there, and Lady Antebellum have their drunk dialing song, and I'm sure there are others I'm not coming up with. There was some article somewhere some months back (you're welcome) about how you can't listen to country radio with your kids anymore, or at least you have to come up with creative ways of explaining sexy lyrics to them. (I'll get back to you if I factcheck myself.)

dr. phil, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP Hank Cochran (songwriter: "I Fall to Pieces," "Don't You Ever Get Tired of Hurting Me," much more besides)

ILX RIP country songwriter Hank Cochran thread.

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Some excerpts of Hank's own tracks swirling around NPR very early this morning. Really nice high lonesome hilltonk neon atmosphere. Speaking of acid folk, I really like Couch Forts; they're kinda Rounders meet primo Woody Allen, re personal neurotic/erotic mythologically hand-painted snapshots.(They do not try to sing like Stampfel, or Allen.) Can stream or download beaucoup tunes here:
http://www.thesixtyone.com/couchforts.html

dow, Friday, 16 July 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, the reason it says "Couch Forts" under some tracks and "Sufferbaby" under others: those are titles of EPs, which the downloads are from. If you can't be arsed to deal with thesixtyone and their free downloads, Couch Forts also got: http://www.myspace.com/iliveinacouchfort.html

dow, Friday, 16 July 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Caramanica in the NYTimes on new albums I haven't hear by Jerrod Neimann (thought his single was okay, not great) and Lee Brice (who I have no opinion about at all.) He likes them both; says the Brice is probably the toughest country album of the year, which I'm extremely sketpical about, having heard Flynnville Train, Randy Houser, Jace Everett, and Colt Ford's albums. (Hell, maybe even Laura Bell Bundy's, for that matter. And Trace Adkins'.) But he makes me want to hear both of them anyway, just to make sure. (Even more skeptical about the non-country stuff he writes about. Thought the Gyptian reggae hit was boring, though nobody else at Singles Jukebox seemed to agree with me. Thought the Zola Jesus goth EP early this year was even more boring -- not nearly as diverting/listenable as the goth album by San Diego band Blessure Grave, who they seem to be associated with somehow -- and my wife, who likes goth way more than I do, agreed with me. Don't remember much about the middling Wacka Flocka Flame single reviewed on Jukebox.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/arts/music/18playlist.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 July 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

And speaking of "power country" (Caramanica's coinage -- I like it, wish I'd thought of it, and will surely steal it), here's George on Lady Antebellum's "Stars Tonite," which I agree is is a real good summer open-air concert radio rocker, even if I've listened to country radio so little this summer I haven't heard it on the radio yet myself. Can't see ranking it near "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" or "American Band" myself -- too soft in its center, somehow -- but the riff is indeed propulsive (mentioned it way upthread when I first heard the album), and the singalong's inspiring enough for me to finally push me over to the "gonna keep the CD" side, after liking two previous hits. Also makes me think that what I liked more about their debut album is that there was more rock on it, if probably not anything this rocking.

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 July 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"Stars Tonight," actually -- not "Tonite." (And "by soft in its center," I guess I partly means its vocals, which aren't as manly as Grand Funk's or BTO's, obviously. But it also doesn't swing as hard as they did. Still, compared to other "rock" on the charts now, it rules.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 July 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Lady A -- with the girl singer, can't have any Don Brewer bellow aka "American Band." The lilts spoil it.

But GF and BTO had no Les Paul guitar chomps like that. No one did back then. The Mesa Boogie metal panel triple-recto whatsis marches on eating everything in its path.

Gorge, Sunday, 18 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Lifestyle/Features/john%2Drich%2D0719/

Note Rich getting in-line for his Gibson endorsement during the promotion for his new record.

Saw the video for it yesterday, thought he was setting himself up to be Kid Rock with better clothes and voice. It had all the usual 'rock' barnacles in it -- Ted Nugent, Sebastian Bach, some midget you see all the time. Nugent, who features reporters seem not to notice will do anything for a paycheck these days, pretneds to be at a bar having a shot. For Mr. Rage about the Virtue of Teetotalism ...

Nugent has a love-hate thing going with modern country. He would dearly love to have more of this audience. In fact, it was his audience in the late Seventies, in a harder form. But now he has the real bottom out-of-sighters, a much smaller cut. And it doesn't help that he makes disparaging remarks about country when he thinks his John Rich/Toby Keith buddies aren't in earshot.

So he plays a little guitar on Rich's single, too. Don't know if he actually played it on record. It doesn't sound like a Nugent lick but he actually did rein himself in for Damn Yankees. And Ted keeps putting on weight.

And here's my Nugent research:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/category/ted-nugent/

Since John Rich did the Massey Coal gig with Nugent as MC last year, one could come to the conclusion they're of real similar politics. However, the Nuge is now real bitter over Detroit -- and not in a good way --
which would seem to be in stark contrast to the sentiment in Rich's last big tune.

Gorge, Monday, 19 July 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, Nugent was scheduled to be on the cover of a big fat UK glossy, Classic Rock...Where the Legends Never Die. There was a change in plans, which the Editor's Note explained thusly: While the photographer was setting up, "Sweet Home Alabama" came on the radio, and Nugent started yelling something very like: "Turn that dead redneck shit OFF!" And got even iller before anybody could react. Speaking of power country, I too wish I'd thought of it, though I almost did, when writing this show preview:

A certain power ballad sure feels like a sultry country night, as the lady recalls summer love--until she suddenly taunts her old sweetheart, who shouldn't feel too bad. She also loves doing that to stalkers, voyeurs, and other favorite audience members. On Halestorm's self-titled debut album, Lzzy (Hale yeah, "Lzzy")Hale's brand of metal shares 70s/80s rock-based connections with restlessly nostalgic modern pop country. She's a leather working girl, whose extreme measures sometimes have to battle her own Heart-shaped heart, and that's country too. But no twangy strings nor singers need apply.

dow, Monday, 19 July 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Reg Mex side note:

Jesse Turner of Siggno (who I'm not familiar with) lists his Top 10 Albums, sort of, including Intocable, Ramon Ayala (who originated most of the songs on Intocable's latest album), and Brad Paisley, among others.

On Paisley: "I don’t have a favorite album, but what gets my mind going about any of his music is that he performs his own songs with so much life. His songs tell different stories every single time. I am amazed at his ability to to write a song about picking between his woman or fishing. Songs like 'Little Moments Like That,' 'Cause He Didn’t Have To Be,' 'I’m still A Guy'… This guy challenges me to do the same and write songs that don’t always have to be about the same thing. I believe that now you can write about a song about a rock that doesn’t move...His albums, lyrics, songs, shows, are all motivating to my music career."

For further research, at least for me.
http://www.ramiroburr.com/true/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=711:jesse-turnersiggno-top-10-albums&catid=3:newsflash

dr. phil, Monday, 19 July 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

BAD in the Paul Fussell sense: Songs rendered unlistenable under any circumstance by astonishingly unwatchable video.

Colt Ford making a joke of his frankly hard to stomach obesity and the Twilight movies for the intro of "Chicken & Biscuits."

Billy Currington making a nauseating and homely slob the centerpiece of his "Good at Drinkin' Beer." Way too
successful.

Couldn't make it past thirty seconds of music on either of these, because of. And I like to drink beer, too.

Gorge, Monday, 19 July 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

They've both done much better, anyway. "Chicken & Biscuits" is one of the least notable tracks on Colt Ford's album of the same name. And here's what Singles Jukebox people just said about that Currington song:

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2547

Also, LeAnn Rimes's "Swingin'":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2538

And Keith Urban's "I'm In":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2528

So what has Nugent actually said about modern country? Just curious; haven't come across anything along those lines. He sure does look (and, solo-wise, sound) pathetic in that John Rich video, though. Only thing I'm liking about the song is that the riff's got some ZZ in it.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Austin Statesman piece this morning about Kevin Fowler. Was not aware that he'd been a guitarist in 'twixt-hair-and-grunge metal band Dangerous Toys in the early '90s; never thought they were worth much anyway, but still. Piece also maps out a brief history of Texas frat country that I'd previously only vaguely figured out on my own: "latest in the line of Texas collegiate country crowd-pleasers that can be traced back to Jerry Jeff Walker, then Robert Earl Keen and Pat Green."

http://www.statesman.com/life/kevin-fowler-hitting-stride-and-the-charts-811538.html?cxtype=ynews_rss

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

So what has Nugent actually said about modern country? Just curious; haven't come across anything along those lines. He sure does look (and, solo-wise, sound) pathetic in that John Rich video, though. Only thing I'm liking about the song is that the riff's got some ZZ in it.

He made some typically Nugent comment about country licks being pathetic, something you'd never hear coming out of his guitar. It might have been in early spring and I didn't save it at the time. Next time I go into Lex-Nex I might look for it.

Paradoxically, the Nuge does this instro called "Honky Tonk" with his old guitar teacher on the 6,000th show Motor City Mayhem thing from 2008 and it's fairly pathetic all by itself. He's commented in the pas that some of his good tunes are written around honky tonk licks, and that's true, but he sure can't play them without sounding hackneyed if he lays off the power and distortion. Which also reminds me of how he spends ten minutes of the concert "celebrating" his blues guitar heroes by doing the worst bar band blues number he can muster. And don't even ask about his imitation of Mitch Ryder. Which isn't to say the concert doesn't have its good parts, of which I'll comment elsewhere, but as a roots musician he surely stinks.

Maybe he didn't actually play the guitar on the Rich thing. You'd have to look on the album. What's the point in calling on Ted Nugent if he doesn't ... like ... do a Ted Nugent lick? Also note Sebastian Bach in that thing, he also of the expanding middle third. And like Nuge, now or still a Doc McGee managed act. Is Rich now handled by McGee?

But with someone like Dan Huff as a producer, Ted could make an momentarily entertaining if maybe not quite decent modern country album. It would have to sell as a novelty -- think Uncle Kracker -- unless he found a singer. If Jason Aldean or Nickelback can pass off those beats on CMT, anyone can do it I think.

Didn't much care for "Swingin'" and haven't yet heard the Urban thing.

Gorge, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

And my take on John Rich so far is that he's now overcompensating. Re wanting to do this:

...now on a year or two long solo act kick, apparently so as not to have the psychedelic hippy, Big Kenny, always at his stage right.

Completely off base?

Now he wants to be a thin man's half-Montgomery Gentry?

Gorge, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"So what has Nugent actually said..." See my post dammit! If he has a hissy fit over "Sweet Home Alabama", gives an idee of his take on *Country*!

dow, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Two real good '80s pop-country songs, if anybody cares: "Radio Heart" and "If This Is Love," off Charly McClain's 1985 LP Radio Heart (#15 on Billboard country LP chart), which Metal Mike sent me a few weeks ago. He's sharpied on the back, next to "If This Is Love," the following: "Taylor Swift/Def Leppard chords (key of A)". Not sure if I hear that, exactly (lyrics are definitely more pro forma than Taylor's), but judging from this album (third best song: the understandably airier "Talking To The Moon" I think) and her '82 Greatest Hits (favorites probably "Sleeping With The Radio On" -- went #4, and apparently she liked radio songs --, "Men," and "Who's Cheatin' Who" -- covered lamely by Alan Jackson a few years back), I could see McClain intermittently qualifying as some kind of tentative proto-Shania, in her more pop moments anyway. Definitely a '60s AM/early '80s girl-groupy new wave/maybe Motown influence on some of these hooks; her husband Wayne Hussey (three so-so duets on Radio Heart) seemingly shows some adult contemporary r&b influence in his singing inflections. She's a real cutie, too, which also puts her in Shania's lineage. And hmmm, just noticed in Whitburn she covered (and had a #24 c&w hit with) Freda Payne's impotent-groom-on-wedding-night classic "Band Of Gold" in '84; hope Wayne (who married her that year!) didn't take it personally. Whitburn also says she'd toured with black country singer O.B. McClinton, which might somewhat explain the possible soul influence, and appeared on Chips, Hart To Hart, and Solid Gold. Never had a single or LP cross over to the pop chart, though, which is a shame because that clearly seems to have been the intention, and "Radio Heart," for one, sounds like it easily could've been an '80s pop hit.

Speaking of old sellout country, wrote up some longwinded thoughts on Bill Anderson's 1979 Ladies Choice -- probably the most country-disco album I've ever heard -- here a couple days ago:

(vintage) country-disco

Jerrod Neimann album is super entertaining, btw. Lee Brice is mostly boring me so far; need to listen to it more. Though there do seem to be some reasonably tough moments -- e.g., opening "Picture Of Me."

xhuxk, Friday, 23 July 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoping I didn't scare Edd away with my Laura Bell Bundy defense above. (Fwiw, Edd actually describes how music sounds, and how those sounds work, as clearly and wisely as any writer I can think of. So I want to make it clear that how I interpreted his response to the Bundy record doesn't strike me as typical. Also, just like George with Currington and Colt Ford, there's nothing wrong with deciding not to delve further into an artist because you hate the video. Sure I've done it myself, many times.)

Anyway. Just got back from a "brisk" (actually I don't go very fast but whatever) morning bike ride, let myself accidentally get lost in a couple Austin neighborhoods I'd never been in before and then figure out my way back out in a different direction, fun to do on Sunday mornings when there's not so much car traffic to dodge, and then what do I see parked in front of a house on a street called Villanova Drive but Dale Watson's big fancy tour bus. That sure never happened to me in New York City.

Also worth noting: A couple days I ago I played back-to-back recently acquired (total cost for both put together: $0.50) copies of (sometimes covered by Barbara Mandrell) soul singer Barbara Mason's 1972 Give Me Your Love and country singer Joe Stampley's 1976 (though seemingly from the notes recorded/maybe previously released a couple years earlier) All These Things, and by a complete unbeknownst to me coincidence, both of them turned out to feature covers of "Everything I Own" by Bread. Wow, must have been a really popular song. Haven't decided yet whose version is better. (The Stampley also contains covers of the Box Tops' "Cry Like A Baby," the Four Tops' "I Can't Help Myself," and everybody's "Unchained Melody." Intereseting selection for a country guy. Apparently he had been in a "roots rock" band in the '60s called the Uniques; never heard them, but I've always imagined they were sort of Swingin' Medallions type Southern frat soul guys. Or, yeah, Box Topsish.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 July 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Um, with Currington it's not a permanent deal-breaker. Colt Ford -- he gets the death penalty. The
mental image is too horrid, sweaty and gelatinous now, a pic of someone who eats lard from a can. And I'm usually not put off by unfortunate looks.

Gorge, Sunday, 25 July 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"sure can't play them without sounding hackneyed if he lays off the power and distortion" Only good with power and distortion = cornerstone of much rock we both love, I was gonna remind you, but your main point is that it was stupid of him *to* lay off, and thus he exposed his weakness in this area, rat? Must admit, re my previous unqualified endorsement of Chuck Prophet, I've now heard his most recent studio album, Let Freedom Ring, and discovered how sub-sub-sub-Dylan-y/Petty-y he can be, but about half of it's good-to-damn-good, esp when he's not trying to literally sound like Dylan, and assimilates Dylan's interplay of personal and political, as 60s electric stuff and sometimes more recently. Also Dylan-wise, got the lines that zing, in and out of context: "She was unwanted in 17 states", awww!

dow, Monday, 26 July 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I was gonna remind you, but your main point is that it was stupid of him *to* lay off, and thus he exposed his weakness in this area, rat?

Yeah, he was trying to do sincerity and be tasteful at the same time. He's terrible at both. His guitar teacher, who played with him onstage, did tasteful. Tasty = worthless on the big stage.

Gorge, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

So can any historians in the house (Don? Edd??) explain to me why Greil Marcus calls Jesse Winchester "rockabilly" in the appendix in the back of Stranded? Just listened to 1989 Rhino/Bearsville best-of (14 songs, 1971-1981) again; I try ever few years to see if I'll suddenly understand what the big deal about the guy was. No luck, again, but the main thing is, damned if I can hear any "rockabilly" on the record. Definitely some stuff that borders on a white-folkie trying Negro spirituals (the opener "Tell Me Why You Like Roosevelt," which has subsequent verses about "Lester B" -- who??? not Bangs obviously -- and Pierre Trudeau, would fit into that category), but mostly I'm hearing gloomy folk, a lot closer to Gordon Lightfoot, who had much better songs not to mention was a real Canadian not just a sad Memphis kid dodging the draft there. (Melody that maybe reminds me the most of Lightfoot, "A Showman's Life" from 1978, might be my favorite.) So, is the rockabilly thing just because Jesse's from Memphis, and does songs about it, not to mention Mississippi and Biloxi? Or does it have something to do with being produced at first by Robbie Robertson and collaborating with Levon Helm? (Not that the mostly bland Band ever sounded rockabilly to me, either, but I can imagine maybe Greil making a case in Mystery Train that they were.) Or (best possibility maybe) is it just that the '70 debut LP (the one Greil includes -- gets a Winchester career-high A- from Xgau too) actually was rockabilly, on songs that didn't make the best-of? Inquiring minds want to know.

(And while we're at it, why did Christgau useta call James Talley "Western Swing"? He wasn't, either.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Fwiw, the Best-Of I have does actually include four songs from Winchester's debut ("Yankee Lady," "Biloxi," "The Brand New Tennessee Waltz," "Skip Rope Song"), but the LP cover lists them as 1971, not 1970 (the date both Marcus and Christgau use.)

And the Talley album that Christgau calls Western Swing -- Got No Bread, No Milk, No Money, But We Sure Got A Lot Of Love from 1975 -- is the one I have, and I'm pretty sure the only one I've heard.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Lester B is probably Lester B Pearson (Canadian prime minister pre-Trudeau).

pauls00, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

No why Jesse W. might ever be described as rockabilly. His self-titled debut is by far his best that I've heard, though some good tracks on later albums, here and there. Even at his best, always a cell away from being too fey, or really self-pity (and/or depression?)is the basci complex, which can certainly be true of those considered much more macho. Or maybe the really really basic prob is limit of his talent and/or musical conception, since o course some others, from Hank Williams on down, can make the artistic and/or entertaining most of self-pity. But yeah, if somebody wants something very refined and reflective and chamber Americana (like I was hoping he'd get with John Cale, re JC's own early 70s Vintage Violence), then the self-titled debut is certainly worth checking out (also rec to fans of Nick Drake and John Martyn)Never heard the Best Of.

dow, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Anybody else read the Brad Paisley piece in this week's New Yorker? It takes several thousand words to say more or less the same thing I said in 200 in the Cleveland Scene, but it's moderately entertaining.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

As far as the Band being bland, their self-titled second album and Moondog Matinee, which is based on their pre-fame roadhouse sets, are prob the most jumping complete sets on their own. Also good funky tracks without Dylan included on The Basement Tapes (one of which even seems like a prophecy of early Steely Dan, though it's a Dylan cover: the one about "stranglin' on this telephone wire). Also, in mellower (if also Xgau's "sprung")sprung modes: Big Pink, and some good cover-bait on Stage Fright, Northern Lights-Southern Cross,good rehash with horns (plus good new cover of Marvin Gaye's "Baby Don't Do It") on Rock of Ages.
But maybe they were more consistent as a backing band.Hot stuff on Ronnie Hawkins' Arkansas Rockpile, and the spottier Mojo Man, both reissued as a twofer in 09 or 08, anyway I posted a pretty good description on whichever year's Rolling Country. Also as backing band on The Last Waltz (plus some of their own, like Garth's roller-rink title song, as the credits roll). And of course as D.'s backing band on Basement Tapes, Planet Waves, Before The Flood.

dow, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't read either, but 200 words seems the more apt allocation for Paisley appreciation.

dow, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Was off in Connecticut where the only Internet access I had was sound-free. Also been spending time thinking about my old "PBS" rants from the first few WMSs ('87-'88), my notions never having been that thought-through in the first place, so I'm seeing if I can rethink them. One of my thirty or so arguments at the time was that what was going wrong in the '80s was that the "symbol was standing in for the event," so the music (esp. indie-alternative) would play the symbols of risk and innovation without being risky and innovative, would be intellectual without being intelligent, would symbolize rebellion without being rebellious, etc. Even though the argument was often correct, it didn't explain what it was meant to, which is why the music was bad - not to mention explaining how (or even taking into account that) the music could feel good to others. Edd, in his argument about Laura Bell Gundy not being "musical," seems to be making the same mistake that I was. If the people, e.g. me, who like "Giddy On Up" aren't responding to the music - which includes words and presentation etc., but can't get by simply on those things - just what are we responding to? It's not an argument or an idea to say that the song isn't music, it's just a placeholder in wait of an argument that Edd hasn't made yet. (Not that the fact that we respond to it makes the song good, necessarily, just that our response means that the song has something in it that we respond to viscerally.)

Btw, I never even bothered to look at the Gundy vid until the Jukebox convo, and when I did I thought the visuals were not much better or worse than cute but I can't imagine they made much of a difference one way or another to the song's reception (except to Edd, I guess).

(But I extremely doubt that you scared Edd off, Xhuxk. He doesn't seem the sort to scare easily, though he does disappear a lot to take care of other stuff.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 30 July 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Hope (and suspect) you're right, Frank.

Anyway, here's a link to something I wrote for Rhapsody about what I called the 10 Most Overlooked Albums Of The Year So Far, though maybe I should have added "...And That Are Available On Rhapsody" and "...And That I've Actually Heard" and "...And That Aren't Reissues Of Old Music" and maybe "...And That Will Make This List Look At Least Somewhat Balanced Genre-Wise", but perhaps all of that goes without saying. Includes writeups of one album that could definitely be classified as country (Jerrod Neimann); of five albums that could probably tangentially be classified as country (Jace Everett, Luther Lackey, Slim Cessna's Auto Club, Reverend Peyton's Big Band, Intocable); and of four more that definitely couldn't (Traband, This Moment In Black History, Eddy Current Suppression Ring, Marrow):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/07/overlooked.html

Also, my mini-review of Sheryl Crow's new album (which is okay, but I wouldn't really recommend):

http://www.rhapsody.com/sheryl-crow/100-miles-from-memphis#albumreview

xhuxk, Friday, 30 July 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Lee Brice album is growing on me, btw. Has lots of stuff I don't care about (at least not yet), but "Sumter Country Friday Night" has a real kick to it. And "Four On The Floor" might go further into a hybrid of country with funk/disco/danceclub-pop than anything else lately, possibly even including Laura Bell Bundy* or Colt Ford. People should listen to it (it's on youtube) and decide for themslves. Pumps up the jam, either way. And namedrops both Barry White and Waylon.

* -- Not Gundy, Frank! (Though I notice a couple typoed names -- not my own doing, actually -- in that Rhapsody post I just linked to, too.)

xhuxk, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Also decided to give in and let myself like the Trailer Choir album, which feels only slightly less emotionally and musically lightweight than, say, Uncle Kracker (and features a guy even less lightweight, weightwise, than Colt Ford, so George should stay clear lest he throw up), but it's basically bubblegum catchy beginning to end. Just a really, really easy record to listen to.

Finally, if anybody's interested, here's my favorite Southern Soul/Chitlin Circuit blogger Daddy B. Nice, on the country past of Luther Lackey (who I wrote about in that Rhapsody post):

"God Help That Southern Boy," a new country-western song from an upcoming album of the same name, appeared in May of 2006 under the name of Luther Lackey. For anyone who doubted Lackey's far-reaching scope and brashness, the CD was a wake-up call, and for Southern Soul's insiders the song and CD will prove a litmus test.
Southern Soul artists "crossing over" into country music are rare but not without precedent. To name just a few instances, Bobby Jonz sings country, Sunny Ridell has played with Charlie Daniels and Willie Nelson; Candi Staton did a faithful version of "Stand By Your Man"; Sam Moore recorded a soulful duet with Conway Twitty of "Rainy Night In Georgia" that rivals the original; not to mention the work of the great Ray Charles himself.
It turns out Luther Lackey does have "another life"--or a previous life--as a local and/or nationally-aspiring country-western singer. See "Tidbits" below. It has been a dream of countless black artists, including the great Bobby Womack, to be another Charlie Pride, but most--including Womack--have failed.
According to an article posted in the "Jackson Free Press" in 2004, a year before the release of his debut Southern Soul CD, I'm Talking To You (2005), Lackey already had a "copyrighted" pure-country CD out called At Least I Tried. Printed across the label was the legend: "The Best Country Singer You've Never Heard!"
Your Daddy B. Nice finds this interesting in light of the recent success of Ms. Jody's country-tinged hit, "I Never Take A Day Off," and the arrival of aspiring country-western (and black) singer Tricia Barnwell, who does unabashedly country treatments of songs like "Sweet Home Alabama" and "The First Cut Is The Deepest." Even Bigg Robb's and Carl Marshall's recent remix of "Good Loving Will Make You Cry," while drenched in sythesizer-funk, had a country feel to it at times.
There's a lot of territory to be plowed on R&B's boundaries with country, and given the originality inherent in Luther Lackey's Southern Soul material, there seems to be no reason Lackey couldn't incorporate his love of country into his R&B songwriting.

http://www.southernsoulrnb.com/artistguide.cfm?aid=126

xhuxk, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Helps its user-friendliness that Trailer Choir's Tailgate is so short, though (32 minutes), and includes all four songs from their EP from a couple years ago, which I'd written about here:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/07/woodbox-gang-trailer-choir-laugh-it-up-down-on-the-farm.html

xhuxk, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Brice's "Sumter County Friday Night" starts chronicling a rumble between rival high schools and resulting black eyes, and has a sound mean enough to pull it off, which is pretty impressive. Also he has a tendency to slip in more emphatic moments (in this song, and "Four On The Floor" anyway) into a vocal inflection that sounds like somebody I can't place in '90s commercial rock -- Rob Zombie, maybe, or the guy from Collective Soul? Not sure yet, but it's way more effective than I would have guessed.

Other new album with some really rocking songs on it (among some that are less so, especially toward the end when he gets morose and dirgey and hopes his voice can carry things, which I don't think it can) is Randy Houser's imminent They Call Me Cadillac -- I mentioned the walloping drums in the opening "Lowdown and Lonesome" already, but there's also "I'm All About It," which might be the fastest recent country rock I've heard out of Nashville. Swings, too. And he likes slide guitar.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

"a sound mean enough to pull it off) I'll have to check that; reminds me that Link Wray's "Rumble" may be the only instrumental ever banned; supposedly(according to the 'thorities) was named for and became the theme song for gang fights, which is just what it sounds like (like, step up, get set and go off). As far as soul & country, Al Green did great versions of "Together Again", "For The Good Times", and I think he was on "Lay Lady Lay" with Anthony Hamilton and some others. Plus, Bobby Blue Bland, Solomon Burke, Arthur Alexander, Clarence Carter, Stoney Edwards (a tip of the Hatlo hat to Edd for turning me on to Stoney) and a couple of collections I still need to hear, Country & Rhythm & Western & Blues (or something like that) and the out of print box, From Where I Stand (or Here I Stand)

dow, Sunday, 1 August 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

And The Holmes Brothers times Mavis Staples gave an awesome ocncert, made my Best Live Acts on the Nash Scene ballot thatyear.

dow, Sunday, 1 August 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

But what I've really been meaning to mention (and then I'll shut up for a while) is "Learning to Live with Myself", a documentary about Merle Haggard, made for PBS' American Masters series. AM can be pretty puffy, but this was pretty candid. It didn'tmention (at least in the part I saw) his onstage denunciations of "Bush Wars" (as in Daddy Bush's original, plus W.'s Afghan and Iraq operations), around the time that "Dixie Chick" was becoming a verb. It did show him adding some anti-Vietnam War and anti-Watergate lines to "Are The Good Times Really Over. And it led through some landmark concerts and accolades,which he seemed genuinely moved and gratified by (ditto his family with somewhat stressed, earnestly devoted, though also pretty candid fourth wife)--to the point when he allowed as he also loved his compartment on the tour bus, because it was the same size as his cell at San Quentin, and was the only place he feels safe, other than the stage (this last an afterthought). That's one example, and apparently we can still watch the whole thing here, plus links to outtakes and extras:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/merle-haggard/watch-the-full-film/1605/

dow, Sunday, 1 August 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Must've been unconsciously been thinking of former Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 August 2010 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Recent tracks I've been liking:

Stealing Angels "He Better Be Dead": Dark doomy pickin' sets us up to expect deadly vengeance in the style of Miranda, instead we get three cutie-pies brooding in the aftermath of a love-'em-and-leave-'em one-night-stand. Tough stuff anyway, though the other tracks on their webpage smooth out too much on the harmonies. Managed and produced by Paul Worley.

Sunny Sweeney "From A Table Away": Woman in the shadows realizes she's stuck being the other woman. Good workaday sorrow, a rich voice that doesn't force things. I should check out Sweeney's album from a few years back.

Randy Montana "Ain't Much Left Of Lovin' You": Passionate sense of loss, reminds me of Neil Diamond's "Solitary Man," despite Montana's voice not really having the heft to carry it.

Jake Owen "Tell Me": More of the same, stronger voice than Montana's, solid mainstream licks, song not as distinctive.

The Randy Rogers Band "Too Late For Goodbye": Love fades, glad to see you go, etc. I could envision Sarah Buxton singing this - she'd do it better, actually, since it needs more of a girl's pout than a guy's whimper.

The Janedear Girls "Wildflower": I imagine that if the Spice Girls had ever gone country, they'd go for country that kicks like this. Would have given it more personality, too.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 August 2010 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link

And these are worth a second or third listen (in potential order of preference):

Jennette McCurdy "Not That Far Away": A good Jennifer Love Hewitt kind of wail, though it gets lost in the arrangement.

Justin Moore "How I Got To Be This Way": Slack singing, but good rippin' rock-country riffs.

Lathan Moore "Beautiful Girl": Cheerful rock 'n' roll chug lite.

Darryl Worley "Keep The Change": Dumbshit full of passionate intensity.

Bridgette Tatum "That's Love Y'All": Strong soul voice, cute-free, though the song doesn't do her singing justice. Her MySpace features metal and funk riffs à la MuzikMafia, though I don't think there's any John Rich association - which is too bad 'cause she could use his songwriting.

Troy Olsen "Summer Thing": A summer's day, about ten years ago.

Boggy Creek "Boggy Creek": Southern rock w/ acoustic pickin' for the sake of pickin'; vocals surprise by going for rich alto rather than broad twang.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 August 2010 07:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmmm, haven't heard any of those yet. Got the Randy Rogers advance CD in the mail, but haven't gotten to it yet; kind of assume I'll think it's okay but will never play it again after a couple listens, just like I didn't with his last couple (which I'd said nice things about on previous Rolling Country theads.) He's a pretty big deal around here; one of the leading lights of Central Texas red clay country rock, or something. Even had some kind of promotional deal with Tetco, where I usually refill my gas tank, which means his band's well enough known. They've just always ultimately struck me as respectable (meaning I respect their music) but ultimately, somehow, stodgy and indistinctive. Anyway, Frank, curious where you're coming across all of these, some of which sound real interesting. Doesn't sound like a CMT or radio playlist...I'll try to see which ones are up on Rhapsody, and check them out.

And Don, didn't mean to imply that Daddy B. Nice's country/soul crossover rundown was an all-time definitive list, by any means. There's lots of names on both that great From Where I Stand box, and on the two volumes I've got of Dirty Laundy: The Soul Of Black Country (Trikont Germany, 2004 and 2008) that he didn't mention. (Hadn't heard of that other comp you named.) And obviously he also doesn't even name Darius Rucker, the most popular black country star since Charlie Pride, or Rissi Palmer, who hit with "Country Girl" a few years ago (not to mention some folks I mention in the Rhapsody post below.) Still think it's cool he dealt with the topic at all, espeically on a soul blog.

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/04/walking-akon-down-the-dark-side-of-countrys-street.html

Can't say I hear much Link Wray in Lee Brice's sound (hear more in Jace Everett's actually), but do still think "Sumter County Friday Night," and maybe another song or two on his album, might be tough and rowdy enough to qualify as fight music. That song, fwiw, basically takes you through a post-football-game Friday night in a small Carolina town, all sorts of details about the trouble going on; kind of like the idea of Friday Night Lights-inspired country actually. And his band sets up a real hard, funky, incessant groove to carry you through "Sumter County," "Carolina Boys," and "Four On The Floor," right after each other. Listening more, I'm not sure if the '90s grunge grunting alluded to above (which for all I know might really be a Chad Kroeger rip) shows up anywhere else but in the blatant dance song I talked about, but I still really love a lot of what Brice does with his voice, stretching words out, turning individual vowels for several syllables -- not exactly Axl Rose in 1987, but I think he's doing something I haven't heard (at least not much) in country before. Album is uneven, but the opener "Picture Of Me" seems like a pretty good here's-how-I-am-and-here's-why-I'm that-way statement, the kind of song Eric Church might've sang on his first album (and maybe Ashlee Simpson on her first two), though I haven't decided yet if Brice is saying anything new in it. (Lee gets a co-write on all four of thse songs, though not on "Love Like Crazy" and "She Ain't Right" -- which seem to be two of the more tolerable of the album's ballads, some of which are sunk in sap.)

Both the Brice album and Houser album definitely have some funk, in the old funky boogie rock sense, in their groove. And both guys seem set on playing the bad boy, though Houser seems to want to come across a more weathered outlaw type, and Brice more the young buck. Both want to be sexy for the girls, too; Houser brags a lot about his prowess. Which might be part of why they call him Cadillac. Talks in "I'm All About It", if I'm hearing him right, about "going down all the way" with a girl who gives him "lead" (as in pencils?), but also think that song swings harder in my head than when I'm actually hearing it. Kind of wish his band had stretched it out more, its bridge is the nastiest part.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, Brice's "Carolina Boys" is also about a fight, or a potential one -- Girl he's hot on walks in with her city slicker or yuppie boyfriend, "in his three piece suit and his penny loafer shoes"; "I gave him a glare and I swear he looked pretty scared to me, I saw him swallow his pride and I looked deep in his eyes, and he decided he didn't want to take it outside." Lee meanwhile has on "my white T-shirt and my cowboy hat and my baby blues." Class warfare of the asshole kind, but it works.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 August 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to Bridgette Tatum's A Taste Of Sex, Church, and Chicken EP, which features the track Frank listed, on Rhapsody now; like the title, and the title of "(I Like My) Cowboys Dirty." She's got a good big husky voice, and right, she's not afraid to boogie. Reminds me of Gretchen Wilson and Lacy J. Dalton, maybe. But yeah, think I agree with Frank in that she could probably use better material.

Meanwhile, anybody heard any of these? (Are the Chesney or Jessie James ones Don Henley sequels?)

13 17 2 The Boys of Fall, Kenny Chesney
B.Cannon,K.Chesney (C.Beathard,D.Turnbull )
BNA PROMO SINGLE | 13
44 1 Stuck Like Glue, Sugarland
B.Gallimore,K.Bush,J.Nettles (J.O.Nettles,K.Bush,K.Griffin,S.Carter )
Mercury DIGITAL | 44
57 NEW 1 Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not, Thompson Square
New Voice Entertainment (J.Collins,D.L.Murphy )
Stoney Creek PROMO SINGLE | 57
58 58 2 Boys In The Summer, Jessie James
J.Fields (J.James,J.Michael )
Mercury DIGITAL | Show Dog-Universal | 58
59 57 59 3 One Thing Beautiful, Rocket Club
M.Kirkwold,J.Sayles (D.Smithmier,J.Sayles )
Feather Moon DIGITAL | Rocket Club |

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 August 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Not challenging you or Daddy B., just chiming in, mainly for those who might not know (most of my stuff is for the lurkers, which I mostly am) Friday Nights Light country is a promising trendancy, hope the Music Row songwriters are studying those subplots, and not too distracted by the ratings. Yeah Frank, that first Sunny Sweeney album is pretty good, got her into the Best New slot on my Nashville Scene ballot. She was def among the young and restless, sounding like an alternate universe Natalie Maines, still spinning her wheels in backwoods Texas (think she actually mentioned the trees, anyway that's what it sounded like, with overcast brooding rather than stark desert dichotomies ect)I'll burn it for you if I can find it, but that's a fair-sized "if."

dow, Sunday, 1 August 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

spinning her wheels in backwoods Texas (think she actually mentioned the trees

Yep, in "East Texas Pines" (about the Piney Woods -- hey, I've been there now!), easily the best song on Sweeney's '06 debut to my ears. Also liked, at the time (according to notations still inked on my CD) "Here Lately, "Slow Swinging Western Tunes," "If I Could" (written by Tim Carroll, Elizabeth Cook's hubbie) and (speaking of Lacy J Dalton, who had a hit with it once upon a time) "16th Avenue."

xhuxk, Monday, 2 August 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm listening again to "From A Table Away," and oddly enough Sunny's emotional tone and melody remind me a lot of Vanessa Carlton's otherwise different (and unfortunately overlooked) singer-songwriter album (on Murder Inc.!) from a couple of years ago.

And the intro to "He Better Be Dead" has the feel - not the notes, but the nervousness - I got from the opening to Warrant's excellent "Uncle Tom's Cabin" (a song that's aching for a country version), right after the instrumental diddling at the start and before Jani starts shrieking, the dread. But then the Angels go cute and punchy, rather than to Jani's anguish.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 August 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Did Akon's country move ever materialize?

Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 August 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Not that I know of. But it's not like I keep close tabs on Akon these days. (Assume I'd have heard, had he actually done it. Snoop tried a one-song country move a few years ago, right? Or pretended to?)

Man, Jani Lane would be a natural in Nashville, you'd think. Kind of surprised he hasn't made the move, like so many other semi-retired hair-metallers have. Same with Tom Keifer (who did show up on an Andy Griggs CD several years back, at least.)

xhuxk, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to a live (and hot) "Picture Of Me" on YouTube, not taking in the lyrics, but Lee Brice's wail also reminds me of Ashlee, his voice scooping down and yarling up. Kicking band, too. Think the production is a little too clean on the studio "Sumter County Friday Night," or maybe I'm thrown by how cheery it sounds, in its toughness. I'm meh on "She Ain't Right" from a few years ago, too much stereotype and not enough force.

Here's a live Sumter County; bet the band are fans of "Crosstown Traffic" and "Voodoo Child."

Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

They sledgehammer that live. From the perspective of the venue and crowd, not really possible to deliver that the way it is in the record. You gotta lose the banjo, the slight rhythm change-up, all of the twang, which is a casualty of the recording. Plus the acoustic guitar -- really, has no chance in the mix.

Works anyway.

The prole cap rock thing.

Class warfare of the asshole kind, but it works.

Hah. Two cartoon stereotypes in combat. My only question, who wants to be the cartoon stereotype
more?

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't quite know why but that also made me take a listen to Justin Moore's "I Could Kick Your Ass."

Good for about 90 seconds.

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Off Frank's list of songs above:

Guitar at the beginning of Jake Owen's "Tell Me" reminds me of Metallica in quasi-spaghetti-western funereal gloom mode ("Fade To Black," maybe, or one of their interminable ballad hits from the early '90s. Except Owen's song is thankfully less interminable.)

Guitar at the beginning of Darryl Worley's dumbass opportunistic (but still unfortunately admittedly somewhat rousing) would-be Tea Party anthem "Keep The Change" reminds me of some late '70s new wave/powerpop band in hard Byrds mode (most likely "Girl Of My Dreams" by Bram Tchaikovsky.)

Favorite song I've heard so far from the list, easy: "From A Table Away," Sunny Sweeney.

xhuxk, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Interesting that this 'homemade vid' has been up for about a month without being yanked for a
TOS copyright violation. They're not racist, oh no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWnl7UADYU

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a Worley rec a couple years ago. On one of the songs he griped about not being as successful as he thought he oughta be -- the record company not getting his CDs into stores in places he was playing.

He comes up with these jingo tunes about the way he thinks life oughta be and he sings 'em good and the guitar sounds great, and he's still a left-behinder. Ted Nugent'd kill for a song like "Keep the Change."

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Judging by viewer count though, Ray Stevens' "We The People" is a lot more popular.

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

What are the Piney Woods like, xhux?

dow, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The Singles Jukebox reviews Jerrod Niemann's "Lover, Lover":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2588

The Singles Jukebox reviews The Band Perry's "If I Die Young":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2580

I was too flabbergasted to review "If I Die Young" - is definitely my WTF country single of the month. The words are ridiculously, passionately bad, or passionately ridiculous, but I think I'm thumbs up on it anyway, for its audacity and commitment, and no one would accuse it of being generic. I don't know if I'd consider it country if it weren't being marketed as such; sounds like a Brit quirk-girl thing though with an American accent, and loopier and more exuberant and naive even than Tashbed. Sample lyrics:

There's a boy here in town, says he'll love me forever
Who would've thought forever would be severed
By the sharp knife of a short life

Band works with Nathan Chapman (Taylor Swift's producer) and Paul Worley, and is on one of Scott Borchetta's labels (same one as Sunny Sweeney).

(Borchetta's the guy who gave Taylor a contract after she at age 14 or 15 walked out on whatever label it was (RCA?) that wanted to keep her in "development" (or at least that's what I recall being claimed on a Taylor EPK).)

David Raposa, who awarded "If I Die Young" 9 points out of 10: "Sad but true: knowing what the male Perrys' hair looked like before blurbing might've influenced my score."

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

What are the Piney Woods like, xhux?

Piney? Woodsy? I dunno - My better half has an aunt and uncle out there, near Crockett and Kennard. Did some visiting time the past couple of 4th of July weekends. Was okay, but couldn't wait to get back to civilization, to be honest.

Just realized I first wrote about Lee Brice on Idolator two years ago (same column I first wrote about 3Oh!3, who I liked less):

LEE BRICE
“One day I stopped to pee, got some gas, and won the lottery,” this South Carolinan’s hit says. Now, his “trailer park’s full of Cadillacs,” and he watches “NASCAR on a 60-inch plasma screen.” The song, “Upper Middle Class White Trash,” sits at No. 15 on Hot Singles Sales after debuting at No. 7 last week; it’s also at No. 49 on Hot Country Songs after five weeks. Not as ingenious a concept as its title makes you hope–Toby Keith had an album called White Trash With Money two years ago, after all. But it’s also not the only notable number on Lee’s MySpace; “Sumter County Friday Night” and “Carolina Boys” are even sorta funky, in a swamp-rock way, and the one about the girl who follows some musician she met from Myrtle Beach to L.A. has a sweet tune. Plus, according to a YouTube commenter named Rishnai, “Upper Middle Class White Trash” is about real life: “Dang, that’s just about described my cousin! He stopped to take a leak and fill up his truck and hit a $4.5 million jackpot on the quick pick. And that’s about what the family did, ‘cept Danny keeps frogs in his pool, not a bass.” Now if only Lee didn’t insist on always wearing his baseball cap backwards.

http://idolator.com/399245/numbers-letters-exclamation-points-real-world-alums-and-the-countercultural-reclamation-of-ike

Think I've decided that Justin Moore's "How I Got To Be This Way" is the bush-league version of Brice's "Picture Of Me." Also pretty sure the rock riff in Jessie James's "Boys In The Summer" (who take their shirts off) rocks me more than Moore's riff does. Like Kenny Chesney's bittersweet (of course) "Boys Of Fall" (who play football -- more Friday Night Lights country! Though Brooks & Dunn's "Indian Summer" did it first maybe) -- more than Jessie's song though. "Stuck Like Glue" is, I guess, partly Sugarland's pop reggae move, right? Cute. But I actually like the oddball '70s AM radio novelty approximation of African skiffle shuffle at the beginning more than the actual song, I think.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

And oh yeah, George's Darryl Worley youtube post reminded me that one of the quasi-libertarian nativist isolatonist Zionist-baiting tea-party-courting conspiracy theory radio shows on the Genesis Communication Network -- not Alex Jones's show; whichever one has the host who (sometimes?) broadcasts out of Honolulu -- was regularly using James McMurtry's "We Can't Make It Here" and Blind Alfred Reed's "How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times And Live" as bumper music earlier this year. Weird choices.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

So now we know Worley's a liar and he's a bit desperate to get his song played. It seems to have stiffed at cmt which is maybe unsurprising. And he has to rely on the Tea Party -- with its lack of grasp of the English language -- to shove it in Youtube. Can't figure why he would have released it early without a video without knowing this would happen. Personally, I think it was a marketing strategy. Anyway, here's the news piece.

In the vein of his 2003 hit 'Have You Forgotten,' Darryl Worley has released his latest single 'Keep the Change,' about how values have pushed by the wayside. While it makes sense that the song would connect with the country audience, it seems he has been meeting with a bit of resistance in getting the song played. Some people believe 'Keep the Change' is political, but Darryl insists it's more about his love and protectiveness of America than anything else.

"I have gotten into some pretty heated debates already with this song," Darryl tells The Boot. "Before God, I swear to you, I believe this is a patriotic song. And it's a patriotic song coming from, I started to say one guy's perspective, but there were three of us. We all just happened to sit down and come from the same place for this particular song. I might go back and rethink it if I had to do it over again and change the title to something else, because they hear the song title, and they immediately think that we're ripping and tearing into Obama's campaign slogans ("Change We Can Believe In" and "Change We Need"). I've got tons of friends that voted for Obama, President Obama, and I say that respectively (sic). I went and sat with them and played them the song and asked them how they felt. And 90 percent of them said, 'The bottom line is the nation is really angry right now, and we don't think there could ever be a better time in history for your song.'"

Darryl, who co-wrote the song with Jim "Moose" Brown and Phil O'Donnell, says he hoped 'Keep the Change' would get people thinking about what was going on in the world and figure out how they could find a way to work things out.

"You can just look around and I'm not pointing a finger at anyone, we've all dropped the ball," Darryl explains. "And it's really sad, you know? It may be a hopeless case, I may be stupid to think I can write and record a song that might be a wake-up call to people and just have people reevaluate. That's where we were. I asked Moose the night we wrapped it up and we were walking out to the truck. I asked him, 'Why do you think we wrote this song.' And he said exactly what I was thinking. He said, 'I just hope that it might be a wake-up call.' To just sit for a couple of days and discuss these things, we realized that things have really changed ... Obviously, these days we sort of follow our politicians' example. it's like we have to be squared off fighting against each other, and there's not any room for discussion or that maybe, just maybe, like the men that founded this great nation, they had radically opposing, different views about things. But there was never a doubt, I don't think, in any of their minds when they sat across the table from one another that there was a really good and genuine person sitting in both of those chairs. And they knew by the end of the session, or whatever it was, that they would come up together with what was the best for the nation and the people."

The song, Darryl says, has received incredible reaction where it has been given a chance to be heard, however, he does admit that it may not surpass the success of some of his previous hits. "It's probably not going to be a huge radio hit, because of the resistance to it in some places. And sometimes that's OK. One of the things that the country-music industry and radio watches very closely is how something's selling. And this is the kind of song that will sell some product. People will go, 'I can't hear this on my radio station? I'll just go and buy it because I really believe in this song.' We've had it happen before ... all we're doing is asking people to just have a look at things, maybe take a good re-evaluation of where we are, and you might come up with something better than me to make this a better world, a better nation
to live in."

First of all, 50 percent of pay Worley's singing about in the song doesn't go to Uncle Sam. That's been pretty soundly debunked but it is a real Tea Party article of faith. He should have to do an interview where someone asks him straight out how is that he's come to have fallen in with the "hands off my pile" crowd and why he actually hasn't pulled the video that's on Youtube, the one with the standard hate comments and veiled stuff from anonymoids predicting the president won't make it to 2012.

A much nicer younger version of Ted Nugent, intentionally going inflammatory because chart-wise everything of his has been insignificant since "Have You Forgotten?"

Gorge, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like a giveaway trait of the stupid: You become a newborn hand-wringlingly sincere amateur
historian who has just discovered paintings of the founding fathers on Glenn Beck, particularly if you're from the south, were one of those guys asleep in class in high school and are now really really chapped over the guy you didn't vote for.

Sadly, Worley has a recording contract and enough money to still have some bigtime songwriters helping him out.

Gorge, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"This video is for every American who were doing fine without the 'change.'

Go get 'em, Darryl. This'll do it.

Gorge, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

'And 90 percent of them said,'The bottom line is the nation is really angry right now, and we don't think there could be a better time in history for your song.' Yeah, I can just see the Life of Darryl multitudes chanting that. But he really is convincingly nice, and not in a disgusting way, when not getting so into politics per se. "Have You Forgotten", trying to wring tears of guilt from those who had any qualms at all about impending invasion of Iraq, was really the worst, but that album he released right after Bush's re-election was frankly qualmsy about everything. But he's like people I've known,correspondences I've let lapse cos never know about getting sandbagged by sudden rants (even aside from obviously titled, fwded bogus news, petitions, etc)

dow, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Singles Jukebox reviews of:

Dierks Bently "Up On The Ridge"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2601

and Luke Bryan "Rain Is A Good Thing"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2594

Both of which did better than I figured they would (and figured they deserved to).

xhuxk, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I dumped on Luke Bryan upstream way before:

Two songs on water, Luke Bryan's "Rain is a Good Thing" which has gotta have the worst lyrics I've heard in a long time. Cracked out the rhyming dictionary for whiskey and frisky for that slice of
retard rock. And Paisley's thing.

And this ain't aimed at xhuxk but one ought to at try to be a little less obvious in their usages since everyone's at the cocktail party is cherry-picked from this one.

Gorge, Thursday, 5 August 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Huh, Worley or his record company had YouTube yank the audio on the teabagger vid for his "Keep the
Change" tune.

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4302299/behind-the-scenes-with-darryl-worley/?playlist_id=87261

Worley on a Fox News web only production -- they threw him a bone in connection with an appearance on Hannity I didn't see.

It's obvious they're trying to take "Keep the Change" to the Fox News/Tea Party crowd. However, Worley discusses his problem at about 2:40 in. Country music dropped it because it's about bashing the President, something Worley denies, not very convincingly.

Generally, though, I do agree with dow. He seems like a genuinely nice fellow. Just not very perceptive, or purposely playing thick, on how his song will be or is used/perceived.

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Here he's talking about it to the Kalamazoo Express Gazette before country music stripped it. According to Lex-Nex, he was able to do only two pieces of publicity on it when it was released and while it was low in the country charts.

Songwriter concerned about country's values

Special to the Gazette

ST. JOSEPH -- When you hear Darryl Worley's latest single, "Keep The Change," at the Venetian Festival, pay attention to the lyrics.

Although Worley says he's patriotic rather than political, he appears to be making a social statement with "Keep The Change." He's concerned about the state of the nation and the overall emotional well-being of its people.

"It's scary," Worley said. "I don't think anybody knows where we're heading. We are getting further from basic principles and core values that the country seems to have been based on and founded."

Worley says the title is not intended as a jab at President Barack Obama.

"We (co-writers Jim "Moose" Brown and Phil O'Donnell) pick song titles because we know they'll stir up a stink. That's what I do as a songwriter. It's my job to figure out what will create the biggest reaction. The changes that we see in society are changes that have been in the making for 40-50 years," he said.

Worley debuted "Keep The Change" in Detroit this past spring. Its first test in front of a sizable crowd was a positive one. It relates to a blue collar core but also transcends political ties.

"A big portion of the population is fed up with the way things are going, and they don't know why," he said.

The song, he says, is the "voice of a lot of those people." Worley's songwriting skills resonated well with country music fans and the general public at large with 2003's post 9/11 anthem, "Have You Forgotten?" Several years later, Worley still remembers and honors those who serve our country.

He recently returned from a tour in Iraq where he performed and signed autographs for thousands of soldiers throughout the Middle East. Entertaining the troops, he says, is "his way of sharing a little bit in the responsibility and doing my part."

======Rest cut

He does emit the sincere whine of the wounded Tea Party types who see themselves as patriots (and therefore always necessary to point it out, too) and -- the politer ones, anyway -- who become dumbfounded when other people who outwardly look just like them point out their image isn't so pristine.

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

And only a hardened charlatan or stone fool could possibly insist such a song "transcends political ties" without smirking.

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The changes that we see in society are changes that have been in the making for 40-50 years.

And this is rubbish, who knows where it comes from. The new right article of faith that the New Deal
and Great Society were for commie losers?

Forty to fifty years ago we had economic fairness and a social contract for the betterment of the middle class. It didn't start getting really thrown to the dogs until the early Eighties. He's just noticed ore more recently.

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Something I wrote about the new Trace Adkins album:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/08/cowboys-back.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey here's a prodi-gal prodigy (and seasoned pro) prob be in my Nash Scene Top Ten, though her beat-rushing chronicles may take some getting used to (got of a lot if it on first listening, but may be we're similarly wired, in this instance)Shitty field recordings on YouTube, but can check her
http://www.myspace.com/lydialoveless
and that of her tempestuous family New Wave band
http://www.myspace.com/carsondrew although it's sadly RIP (her dad's still drumming in her own band, though).
Here's my show preview:
Veteran Columbus,OH teen Lydia Loveless sometimes includes the Replacements’ intensely frustrated “Answering Machine” and Def Leppard’s dynamically mesmerized “Hysteria” with her punky tonk combo’s deliveries, unstoppably tumbling up, down and onto life’s thrilling, killing, chilling and flat moments. Loretta Lynn’s points of departure are extended and twisted through Loveless’ compactly epic, self-written debut,The Only Man, as desperately wired sexual power struggles zap the void in passing: “Girls suck/They suck and suck and never get enough,” wails one contender, but it’s time to ricochet off another incisive epitaph.

dow, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

My more organized thoughts on the Worley thing:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/08/11/on-pandering-country-music-style/

Gorge, Thursday, 12 August 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Great post, George. Didn't realize there were so many "Keep The Change" songs. And Worley has clearly been disconnected from reality at least since linking Bin Laden to Iraq back in "Have You Forgotten."

As for this:

the country charts have largely shied away from this type of inflammation if we don’t include the short period after 9/11 when it granted a dispensation for those who liked the idea of getting our war on. (Chuck, you can correct me if I’m way off.)

I think you're basically right, though that doesn't mean a certain kind of class resentment didn't stick with country through the '00s; just wasn't as blatant as right after 9-11. It seems to have cooled down lately, though that may as much to do with timidity on radio's part as anything else. And obviously there have been recent inflamatory exceptions, like for instance Toby Keith's "American Ride" last year. Wrote more about country's tea-party-like backlashing through the decade here:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2009/11/countryteaparty.html

In other news, Singles Jukeboxers on Uncle Kracker's "Smile":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2625

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Though on second thought, "timidity on radio's part" might be wrong. I get the idea that, in the, uh, Obama/Paisley/Taylor era, Nashville in general doesn't seem to be leaning as drastically rightward as it seemed to be just a few years ago. Not sure why that would be (maybe a business decision), or why it even strikes me that way. But it's not exactly like John Rich has been tearing up the charts lately. And I even get the feeling Toby -- whose politics were always fairly confused and/or confusing in the first place -- has been sort of shunted to the side somewhat over the past couple of years.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Though then again, maybe I'm citing country radio's timidity because country radio has struck me as really timid this year -- in a year when country albums haven't really been striking me as timid at all. (Though that could have something to do with Austin's commerical country station being more reined in than other places', or could just have something to do with me not listening to country radio as much. Real chicken-and-egg conundrum: Does country radio seem boring to me because I'm tuning into it less, or am I tuning into it less because it seems boring to me? Both, maybe.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

FOX News, 2003: "They're criticizing the President! Get them off the radio!"

FOX News, 2010: "He's criticizing the President! Get him on the radio!"

a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Re your Obama/Paisley/Swift observation -- I was thinking about Paisley, in particular, prior to finalizing that Worley thing because his album came out just as the economy was collapsing, succeeding despite it. And I felt he was kind of the voice of the Wall Streeter who doesn't see anything wrong, his kickoff tune being about the wonders of getting everything from everywhere else in the world but here on a Saturday night. Without questioning for a second where and why all the jobs went. But it succeeded grandly and his "Water" is still being pumped, so there's certainly an industry appetite for his genial fantasies as long as he executes them so well. Truth is I have more grudging respect for Worley's song because at least it's truying to capitalize on a very real rage in the social climate.

As for John Rich, he's either mixed up or he mixes me up. The Detroit single comes out -- and then he winds up being one of the "stars" at the profoundly inimical to labor Massey Energy and its labor day farce a year ago. And now it's back to the party scene. And didn't Brooks & Dunn -- or at least one of them -- get a bit prickly when Obama used one of their songs at his big do prior to election?

In other matters, from the sound of "Ala-Freakin'-Bama," I think I'm going to have to get the Trace Adkins thing. I listened to "Marry for Money" again and, honest to God, the guitars are doing a Status Quo thing in it.

Gorge, Thursday, 12 August 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

And Worley gloms onto at least two big myths in his thing. (1) That Uncle Sam takes half his labor.
And (2), that Obama did the Wall Street bailout when it was a Henry Paulson/GWB thing and so had nothing to do with 'change.' Plus, he throws in the Tea Party thing which has to do with its perception that the president slights those who pledge allegiance and pray. Which is pretty nasty when you get right down to it.

Gorge, Thursday, 12 August 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Another thing I remain curious on is the male country-wide breast-beating thing over honoring the troops.

To be honest, Ted Nugent -- in particular, does this big time, too. And it seems to me that if a few of these guys actually felt the way they say they do, the would have thrown down their guitars on 9/11 and marched quickly down to to the local recruiting station, like Pat Tillman. But, of course, we know they all didn't -- despite being as able bodied. In fact, this seems to be a real big component of Tea Party-ism.

So all the play for the troops and advertise it work, which is fine, smacks me as overcompensation and a psychological guilt work-off over not having the stones to actually do what they publicly believed ought to be done.

There's a conspicuous absence of songs about bringing them home now after almost a decade of war,
right?

Gorge, Thursday, 12 August 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"Keep the Change" is obviously a swipe at Obama--the guys up on the hill can't see that things are going wrong? Just give me the big money I deserve and need and you guys keep the change. I bet the songwriters were real proud of themselves. As usual, this is just insubstantial to the point of disappearing, as analysis. That bad ol' liberal Paul Krugman wrote recently in the bad ol' Times about the crumbing of our infrastructure, which I myself would be more concerned about that whatever Worley seems to think is wrong. One thing country used to do well was think in practicalities that sure, were all about the individual--politics being in my book a mass phenomenon, a way for people to Pull Together, and so forth, that country has always exploited but never actually taken to heart. Because the classic country artists felt excluded, just like the blues performers.

I do think that it's a biz decision, the fading away of Toby (who left his big label, remember) and the new stuff taking over, which is a bit more apolitical. John Rich supported the nut-job candidate for Tenn. gov., Zach Wamp (who didn't win in the recent primary). I believe Nashville is scared of tapping into the Tea Party rage, all it's gonna do is erode their market share with the people they want to reach--people like me, more or less, Southerners who basically like country music but who are liberals or at least skeptical about the right wing. I know a lot of people like that.

But the big guy with the slide is cool, in the Huckabee clip, and Huck himself acquits himself nicely on bass. I mean could James K. Polk play the banjo?

I tried to like the Jerrod Neimann record, Judge Jerrod & the Hung Jury, and while I kind of noticed the rock-opera aspect of it (note the subtle Pink Floyd Dark Side guitar chord allusion in the first number, I found it kind of ridiculous. That stupid song about going to Mexico and not feeling down. Guess I'll give it another try.

Duds: Clarie Burson's Silver and Ash and Eden Brent's New Orleans piano record. Brent is skillful and there are a few moments of nice rockin' on it. She can play in that Prof. Longhair mode, but her vocals--approaches everything just the same and tries so hard to sound like she's on a riverboat in 1923...annoying.

I bring up Brent just 'cause I know that this appropriation of an idiom--the skill involved in what she does, which is undeniable--may not be preferable to what Taylor Swift does. Just to let you guys know I think about this stuff. When you're calculatin' your aesthetics and all it's very difficult to sort this stuff out. My objection to Swift is that it's not musical, the actual elements of it have nothing much to do with music in its deepest psychological sense. The voice, the stance, the pathos of being young and the lyrics, that may have some merit but I need more, myself. Far be it from me to deny the people their pleasures in this. But one thing an old fart like me, cognizant at least of the niceties of "idiom" and so forth, can say is that country music used to be at least psychologically sound it its simplicity. This is not to decry the modern but merely to make an observation. Now do I prefer Swift to Eden Brent? I dunno--I am skeptical of both roots and rootlessness, as permanent states of being.

Swift Boat: the scuttlebutt here in town for a while, which may not be true, but the people who've said this to me are credible, is that Swift has never written her own stuff without help, or maybe not at all. Has had the guidance of a well-known songwriter whose daughter is a young alt-country nymphet. Probably untrue, but interesting.

The best thing I've heard in the last week is Riley's Grandma's Roadhouse, an early Gary Stewart project done with Owen Bradley in 1970. The local label Demore put it out. This may have been mentioned upthread in the posts I still haven't gotten to. It's what you wish country-rock--Marshall Tucker--would have sounded like, or what the International Submarine Band might've been with more balls, or what Doug Sahm might've done had he come to Nashville. Really great songs about drinking, weed and the pleasures of country life in a tar-paper shack, done with rock dynamics and guitar, but with a very interesting overlay of wistful? glazed? stoned? harmonies a la the Everlys and songforms post-Beatles for sure. Stewart wrote about half the songs and sings them. It's remarkable and as a confirmed Stewart nut I love it, but the whole band is great.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 12 August 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

and reading up thar, right, Marcus is full of it re Jesse Winchester and "rockabilly." Last year the Scene asked me to write about Winchester, who was appearing here in town and whom I'd never seen or really listened to very much in years. So I dug out all his stuff I could find and spent a few days with the man.

His first LP is a classic and it's more or less a sui generis singer-songwriter essaying the lyric, as in lyrical, side of basic rock 'n' roll and a little country, a little sentimentality. The insane balls-out of rockabilly isn't there at all. What Marcus was hooking into was the expat aspect of a Memphis/Mississippi artiste feeling lost but still horny and ready in a cold country. Winchester's later stuff is nice with particular props to Nothing but a Breeze. One sly motherfucker indeed. His last album, Love Filling Station, uses newfangled oldfangled acoustic-bluegrass tropes and is very nice too. One great song tucked away in there about how Southern women are disappointed in their men and how the money sustains it all despite said man's fecklessness, daddy got him a job at the bank. A subject I find irresistible, since I know some mighty Steely Magnolias and some mighty feckless men named things like Ferdy...but Winchester I did catch at the Nashville show, just so mellifluous and subtle and sly in the vocal approach, and "Biloxi" and "Mississippi You're on My Mind" (done to a T by Stoney Edwards) are A plus songs, man. But rockabilly... no.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 12 August 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I believe Nashville is scared of tapping into the Tea Party rage, all it's gonna do is erode their market share with the people they want to reach--people like me, more or less, Southerners who basically like country music but who are liberals or at least skeptical about the right wing. I know a lot of people like that.

This is an interesting observation, thanks, ed. I saw this fellow named Mudcat Saunders on the television the other day, MSNBC talking about how Jim Webb won, and he seemed to be in the same vein.

Gorge, Thursday, 12 August 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Swift Boat: the scuttlebutt here in town for a while, which may not be true, but the people who've said this to me are credible, is that Swift has never written her own stuff without help, or maybe not at all. Has had the guidance of a well-known songwriter whose daughter is a young alt-country nymphet. Probably untrue, but interesting.

To be honest, I don't give a hoot either way. Nothing is more tedious than the way that writing your own songs in isolation is held up as the mark of a TRUE ARTIST.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 12 August 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Anybody got any Top Ten bait? I don't think I've even heard ten 2010 release country albums (yet)Pretty sure the aforementioned Lydia Loveless and Halestorm gonna be in my TT, but otherwise...

dow, Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, the results are what count, talking about Taylor Swift.

So the Jerrod Neimann record should've been called The Eclectic Spanking of Judge Jerrod. When Nashville wants to make a concept record making fun of concept records, they really do it right. This record makes Bobby Bare Jr.'s new one sound positively moribund and ranges over a lot more territory. One tune features Funkadelic guitars circa One Nation Under a Groove and backup singers and occasional wah-wah; there's one about Tiffany a.k.a. Bakersfield from Bakersfield; a Jimmy Buffett imitation with bongos in it; some very odd arrangements including one that alternates strings with some kind of weird keyboard part; a joke-ending of an ending song just like Roger McGuinn used to favor; and the clincher, a song about how he's a throwback to the days of hat acts that alludes to payola, with piano part signifying the glorious past. He sings well enough, overdoes it by my lights but that's part of the concept. Hmm. As I say, the Bare Jr. record sounds anemic by comparison, merely reshuffling some moody alt-country concepts and Bare Jr. sounding dead on his feet throughout most of it.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow...Rolling Country is rolling again, I guess. Need to absorb George's and Edd's posts more, but to answer Don's question, my country Top 20 albums for 2010, at this point, would look something like this (with much shuffling likely between now and the end of the year):

1. Jace Everett – Red Revelations (Western Boys/Hump Head)
2. Luther Lackey – Preacher’s Wife (Ecko)*
3. Jamey Johnson – The Guitar Song (Mercury)
4. Flynnville Train – Redemption (Evolution)
5. Laura Bell Bundy – Achin’ & Shakin’ (Mercury)
6. Chely Wright – Lifted Off The Ground (Vanguard)
7. Colt Ford – Chicken And Biscuits (Average Joe’s)
8. Tim Woods – The Blues Sessions (Earwig)*
9. Lee Brice – Love Like Crazy (Curb)
10. Jerrod Niemann – Judge Jerrod And The Hung Jury (Sea Gayle/Arista Nashville)

11. Shinyribs – Well After Awhile (Nine Mile)
12. Merle Haggard - I Am What I Am (Vanguard)
13. Trace Adkins – Cowboy’s Back In Town (Universal)
14. The Reverend Peyton’s Big Damn Band – Wages (SideOneDummy)
15. Elizabeth Cook – Welder (Thirty Tigers)
16. Randy Houser – They Call Me Cadillac (Show Dog)
17. Jason Boland & The Stragglers – High In the Rockies: A Live Album (Apex Nashville/Thirty Tigers)
18. Legendary Shack Shakers – Agridustrial (Colonel Knowledge)
19. Stone River Boys – Love On The Dial (Cow Island)
20. Andy Cohen – Built Right On The Ground (Earwig)*

* -- These ones may well stretch the definition of "country." (Technically more blues or soul.)

And Edd, if you didn't notice, I linked to my own review of that Neimann record upthread, sometime in the past few weeks. Didn't even try the Bare Jr. album; have hated what I've heard before by the guy.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Shack Shakers might stretch the country definition as well, I guess.

And I find Taylor Swift's music pretty darn musical, myself.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Shinyribs and Rev. Peyton borderline too, maybe? I dunno, y'all decide.

Definitely agree with Edd's theory, by the way (and this is what I meant above about Nashville's apparrent slight left turn being possibly a biz decision) that Music City's current target audience seems to be veering more upscale, sophisticated, urbane, maybe even liberal -- mainly, it's who can afford albums and concert tickets. And more extreme forms of tea-party-like rhetoric might well turn lots of such folks off, so maybe the labels and radio figure it's best to be cautious about such stuff.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Krugman wrote recently in the bad ol' Times about the crumbing of our infrastructure

And oh yeah, this was a pretty ominous column, btw, for anybody who missed it. Krugman's really been on a roll the past couple weeks. His column about Paul Ryan reviving Newt Gingrich's fuzzy math, and that being the closest the G.O.P. has to a plan for the future, was pretty horrifying as well. Fwiw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/opinion/09krugman.html?ref=paulkrugman

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/06/opinion/06krugman.html?_r=1&ref=paulkrugman

And oh yeah, before that, the one about high, long-term unemployment becoming an accepted part of the future American economic landscape:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/02/opinion/02krugman.html?ref=paulkrugman

To what extent have country songwriters addressed these issues? Not much, I don't think.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Edd's theory...that Music City's current target audience seems to be veering more upscale, sophisticated, urbane, maybe even liberal

Okay, looking back, this isn't literally what Edd said. But I do think our theories overlap somewhat (which isn't to say that Tea Partiers on average have less disposable income than urbane liberals or moderates -- the opposite may well be true. But I do think class comes into the equation, somehow or other. Maybe it's more that the urbane types are who the country radio's advertisers want to reach.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

And by "urbane" maybe I just mean "college educated"? Or something.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to talk to a few people here in town to test this overlap Chuck and I are experiencing. I'd love to get some harder evidence of what's happening with the last, say, 3 or 4 years.

Agree also on Jace, Jamey and Cook in your top ten. Rev. Peyton I'm on the fence about. The Jerrod record, as I say above (and I'll read your review, Chuck, thanks!) is...real interesting and perhaps even symptomatic of what this demographic outreach is all about. Country as production value as opposed to individual song? Dunno. I hated it the first time I played it, wasn't in the mood for its humor, but I've gone back to it several times.

And yeah, Bare Jr. is generally pretty bad. He tries hard. Not a great singer at all.

Will write more about the amazing Riley record I mentioned above. Got to be one of the year's best reissues.

Something I kinda like, speaking of reissues, is this twofer by Texas singer Tony Booth. At 48 minutes and two LPs, it's short...and Booth is a kind of Johnny Bush-style singer who isn't as operatic as Bush. These records were done around 1970 and contained hits, like "The Key's in the Mailbox" which is also the title track of the first record. I quite like "Down at the Corner Bar" which mentions "some old floozy" and swings really nicely. Produced by Buck Owens' guitarist, Don Rich, and with several songs by Buck himself--"Second Fiddle" and the great "Congratulations, You're Absolutely Right." Also some nice material by Justin Tubb and Tony himself. "Somebody Called L.A." is a kind of precursor to Jerrod's song about Tiffany also known as Bakersfield. "It's just a nightmare/Somebody called L.A./From a Georgia farm we came to this town a year ago," also like "Streets of Baltimore." I know that Bush's vocal approach is an acquired taste, but Booth isn't as histrionic and the songs are models of concision. I believe the other hit was "Lonesome 7-7203" which is the title of the second LP collected here. The L.A. song kinda helps explain the difference between old country and new--the city used to be the Great Alien Place, now Jerrod hops from Nashville to San Jose to the Bay Area with no sweat. Times do change.

Also, before I go, want to mention that I saw Georgette Jones, the daughter of George and Tammy Wynette, at the Midnite Jamboree a couple weekends ago. Nondescript but not unattractive woman about 40 and as good a singer as Tammy if not George, and she did a lot of the material associated with both, including a fine "D-I-V-O-R-C-E." Deceptive: she stood up there and sang quite well, but didn't do anything all that impressive. But at the end of almost song she suddenly rared back and hit some amazing high notes perfectly and in flawless emotional logic, so I was pretty damn happy to have seen her.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 12 August 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, the reviews I read of Jerrod, at Rhapsody and at Singles JB, make me feel good to have thought that Jerrod did indeed do all them bg vocals himself. That's interesting to me. Yeah, he does wake up with a topless teacher! He's definitely outta diapers!

ebbjunior, Friday, 13 August 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Tony Booth was actually from Florida and got onto Capitol thru the good word of Buck Owens, and Tony was another Bakersfield guy. But he sang like Johnny Bush, which is why I thought he was a Texan. (The guy who sounds most like Bush today is Justin Trevino, who is big in Texas and unknown just about anywhere else.) His first charted hit seems to have been 1970's "Irma Jackson," which is a Haggard song. He hit in '71 with "Cinderella" and again with "The Key's in the Mailbox" which went to #15 country. And in '72 with "Lonesome 7" which hit #16.

ebbjunior, Friday, 13 August 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The Jerrod record, as I say above is...real interesting and perhaps even symptomatic of what this demographic outreach is all about. Country as production value as opposed to individual song?

A good chunk of it is also literally about college (or at least skipping classes and getting drunk with frat buddies), which is obviously a theme guys like Kenny Chesney and Pat Green have touched on in recent years, though not as much, I don't think, and with them it tends toward nostaliga whereas I think most of Jerrod's college stuff is in the present tense (just like Lee Brice's getting rowdy wild after the high school football game stuff). Country about college has got to be a recent development, right? Hell, in the '70s, even in rock music, just about the only people who ever sang about college were Steely Dan! And yeah, obviously too, Niemann's album is a kind of concept record, designed to be played start to finish (with all the skits); probably the last couple Paisley albums have hinted at that sort of thing, but I can't think of any previous country albums that have been so over the top about it. Could become a total fucking annoyance (as in other genres), if it caught on, but now it's a neat novelty. And obviously one economic imepetus for designing albums that way these days would be so fans would want the whole thing, rather than downloading just the individual cuts.

Speaking of individual cuts, curious which ones these are, Edd (tho if I invested more time, I might be able to figure it out myself): (1) One tune features Funkadelic guitars circa One Nation Under a Groove and backup singers and occasional wah-wah; (2) one that alternates strings with some kind of weird keyboard part (3) a joke-ending of an ending song just like Roger McGuinn used to favor.

xhuxk, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of individual cuts, curious which ones these are, Edd (tho if I invested more time, I might be able to figure it out myself): (1) One tune features Funkadelic guitars circa One Nation Under a Groove and backup singers and occasional wah-wah; (2) one that alternates strings with some kind of weird keyboard part (3) a joke-ending of an ending song just like Roger McGuinn used to favor.

let's see, I was working off a promo with no song titles...the one that reminded me of George Clinton is "Come Back to Me," track 11. And the really interesting cut with the string arrangement and that nagging little keyboard (elec piano) and synth? part is "I Hope You Get What You Deserve," track 17. And then the jokey one, "For Everclear," where her shirt comes off, track 19. You're right, it is kind of about college, "My Old School" would've been a great cover.

ebbjunior, Friday, 13 August 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

You have to know that the first serious articles on on the crumbling infrastructure showed up in the Wall Street Journal and the LA Times. Krugman, in a well done piece, emphasized it again. More power to him.

Tea Partiers on average have less disposable income than urbane liberals or moderates

Well, they don't. Most of the surveys I've seen show they skew older and more well off. They are not the bottom-out-of-sighters. So Worley is trying to hook into an older audience. And it matches the Fox News demographic which totally fails with the younger. The younger would give him the finger.

It's a gamble on Worley's part. And if the country music industry is looking to a future, it may indeed, be very nervous about doing anything for that demographic. There's money in it, but ... {fill in the blank)

It's also Ted Nugent's problem. His politics and beliefs destroy his audience. So he's stuck with the diminishing marginal returns I've described on my blog, in his summer tour of dumps/casinos.

The audience coming to see his shows is not the same audience that reads his two and three columns per week in the WaTimes, the stuff that totally shits on the middle class.

Getting back to the country breast-beating on the military thing. The US military is far more diverse than
country music. And an entire rainbow of acts play for the US military overseas.

But it's the country acts which go overboard about there devotion to it the most.

For example, Joan Jett -- who is openly gay -- does a lot of this stuff. But it's not in any way a big part of her shtick.

On the other hand, it's a huge part of Worley's shtick, of Keith's thing, of Nugent's, of Montgomery Gentry's, etc.

It continually strikes as this overcompensating fucked-up semi-educated white boy guilt trip. Some fantasy built off a vague idea about duty, WW II and Sgt. Rock comic books. (Which I had.) You can work off your stupid jingoism by doing penance playing free or semi-free gigs in Afghanistan and Iraq (or Kuwait,
Quatar, and the United Arab Emirates.)

They feel subconsciously slimey -- and they should -- for avoiding what they indicate they believe needs to be done. And it's the only demographic that continually shows imagery of people with medals and ribbons all over chests.

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

And I would be genuinely interested in talking with Worley -- as would any real journalist, not the random sissies that have been assigned to him. He's not Ted Nugent or Hank Williams Jr. Or John Rich.

Why does he want to work at monetizing bigoted rubbish?

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 06:08 (thirteen years ago) link

New Taylor Swift single, "Mine," leaked eight days ago without anyone telling me. Heard it an hour back and I'm still humming it, but also had the same thoughts running across my mind that I had when I was still underrating Fearless: the sound is too samey and the vignettes are summaries not stories.

When Fearless finally did hit home what had been sameness now felt like a passionate reverie, stillness atop great feeling, and plenty of nuance and shifts of tone within it. But "Mine" rolls along fine; what's too much the same is the ringing, chiming guitar. Think an acoustic version would be better, with Taylor's voice sounding all vulnerable. Of course, the streams I'm getting on the 'Net have poor fidelity, some thin and deliberately sped up. Right now the song's a 7, but we'll see what happens when I hear a good rip.

Will think more about the lyrics in few days when I write the song up for Yet Another Year In America; I like the line "You made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter," seems to have a whole story within it, but this song doesn't tell that story.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 13 August 2010 07:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Was just listening to "Fearless."

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 07:53 (thirteen years ago) link

This is just weird. From the Irish Times newspaper. I've never even heard of any of these acts besides Nugent.

Conservativism and neo-liberalism simply don’t get a foot in the record company door unless attached to a certain type of country music performer – or Ted Nugent. The latter was last heard of when at a recent show he referred to Hilary Clinton as a “worthless bitch” and Barack Obama as a “piece of shit” before holding up what appeared to be an assault rifle and saying he told Obama “to suck on my machine gun”.

Nugent, though, represents the outlaw right wing in music terms and is very much out there on the margins. What is emerging with a real force in the US, however, is “Tea Party Music” where rock musicians are finally engaging with the right-wing agenda.

They’re tapping up a new and fervent fanbase – usually baby-boomer types long ago alienated by rock’s liberal, bleeding-heart sentiments.

These Tea Party musicians (such as Krista Branch with I Am America, Jeremy Hoop with Rise Up – dedicated to “all American patriots” – and many others) have been galvanised by the emergence of the Tea Party political pressure group. In simplistic terms, the Tea Party are anti-Obama and pro-Palin – they’re a type of Republican Party with attitude.

For a certain generation, these musicians are their Dylan, Joni Mitchell etc. They sing about “reclaiming” the US from the Democratic movement and lyrically get quite specific about Obama administration policies such as the stimulus package and healthcare reform.

And these aren’t banjo-playing rednecks, this is MTV-friendly music – slick, well-produced and eminently chartable. But such is the fear of the music industry’s antipathy to right-wing music that some of the Tea Party musicians remain “closeted”.

Consider the case of Tea Party poster boy Jon David, whose American Heart song is much loved by Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich. He always performs wearing a large baseball cap and a dark pair of sunglasses.

Jon David is in fact Jonathan Kahn, a Hollywood scriptwriter, who has only recently “outed” himself. His fear for a long time was that he would lose his career in Hollywood because of his political associations: “Being a conservative is the kiss of death there.”

Now that he’s out and proud, he sings his heart out on anthems about cutting taxes and shrinking government.

David/Kahn is a totemic figure for the Tea Party movement – almost a Harvey Milk type if you like. Conservative websites and bloggers laud him for “throwing off the shades and fighting the good fight” and openly talk about “many other right-of-centre sleeper agents all over Hollywood who should declare themselves and try to reclaim a piece of the Hollywood/ pop-culture pie for pro-American and pro-liberty ideals”.

In many ways this is beyond bizarre. That a group of politically motivated musicians are so frightened by the left-liberal entertainment “elite” that they are now using the international language of struggle and oppression.

A right-wing Stonewall is coming – and a Hard Right is Gonna Fall.

The journalist seems to think there's a shortage of music acts which appeal to baby-boomers, that hippie music is still popular.

You have to just laugh and shake your head at a line like "A right-wing Stonewall is coming ..."

He seems to have missed the obvious, that -- yes -- the Tea Party types do whine about being oppressed, but they do it in terms of being oppressed by the 'tyrant' in the White House, while they insist they are taking inspiration from Martin Luther King, Jr. Not Harvey Milk.

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Ray Stevens is another guy who has made pro-Tea Party music. I interviewed him earlier this year and was struck by the vehemence of his opposition to Obama.

The image of a "ring-wing Stonewall" is quite amusing, since I would bet most right-wingers and "rednecks" would have no idea what Stonewall means.

You may find this 2009 Washington Post piece on the country audience and the Internet instructive. Excerpt below:

As traditional retailers continue to disappear and even Wal-Mart, by far the largest seller of country music, devotes less floor space to CDs, Capitol Records Nashville President and CEO Mike Dungan says that what worries him is, "if a sizable portion of our audience has no access online, then we're out of business."

Dungan thinks he has mitigated that risk somewhat by signing such artists as Lady Antebellum, Dierks Bentley and Eric Church, who appeal to a younger fan base raised on the Internet. Nielsen research shows that the older people are, the less likely they are to be online.

That fact is borne out in online sales as well. For example, 27.3 percent of the revenue from Lady Antebellum's self-titled debut album comes from digital sales, says Dungan, whereas only 10 percent of the revenue from Adkins's "X" comes from online sales. The three members of Lady Antebellum are in their mid-20s; Adkins is 47.

ebbjunior, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, "right-wing" Stonewall, ring-a-ding-a-wing...

ebbjunior, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The other fly in the ointment is the US descent into third world nation economy. Then country, and eveyr other genre, has to sign artists that appeal to the haves who spend. In terms of the future, that's a
really crimped potential audience left for country. Paradoxically, if the country industry actually catered to the Tea Party crowd and its political beliefs, and everyone in that demographic got what it wanted in terms of a president and congress, then the industry would have its throat slit.

Krugman explained this differently about a year ago, I think. You can have a country that's a plutonomy. It's just a lot less people spending more. And the artist picture becomes completely different, the labels even more shrunken because most of the population can no longer afford standard ticket sales on a regular basis. In terms of non-essentials, one of the things logically axed is entertainment. And there was a piece in the LA Times a few Sundays ago on how ticket sales are off this summer.

Ted Nugent found this out this summer, playing only casinos, really small dumps, and fairs where "600"
is considered a big VIP crowd.

In this, Worley's strategy -- and by extension his label's -- makes some sense. The Tea Party types are older and they have their pile. It's safe for most of them. So they can theoretically spend on him if they choose to. And he can get publicity on Fox, which is where Nugent gets all his, too.

Nugent's pretty savvy about working this. He's in Phoenix this weekend so he had a publicity event
with Arpaio in which he was 'deputized.' Naturally, it got covered. The Phoenix New Times had it with a pic in their blog and the comments, from the younger, are globally condemnatory. But Nugent knows that's not his audience and if it makes local TV news, theoretically he gets some mileage from it.

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

27.3 percent of the revenue from Lady Antebellum's self-titled debut album comes from digital sales, says Dungan, whereas only 10 percent of the revenue from Adkins's "X" comes from online sales.

Yeah, but what was Arcade Fire's digital percentage last week, for their new album's first week sales -- 62%, I think I read in the Times?? Had to do with being sold at loss-leader $3.99 price on Amazon, apparently, but still -- if you're talking digital sales, country has always been lagging behind (not as much as, say, Regional Mexican, whose fans barely download at all, but still pretty drastically, I think). Though yeah, obviously a younger demographic would at least potentially change that. (At the beginning of the year, iirc, SoundScan was listing Taylor Swift as the top-selling artist for digital tracks in history so far; not sure if that's changed since, or not. If so, with a new album coming out, she'll probably catch back up pretty quick. But I doubt anybody else in country comes close.)

xhuxk, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

(And percentage of sales is probably not the same as Dungan's "percent of revenue", I guess -- which I assume would also include digital track sales as well as album sales -- but still, he's right: As stores that sell CDs close and reduce floorspace, country is on the losing end of the stick.)

xhuxk, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Thing is, in the past decade, maybe counter-intuitively, the industry downturn seemed to hurt country less than any other musical genre, even despite sales within the genre transioniting much slower to digital. And music's biggest new live acts of the '00s -- the only acts in Billboard's list of the Top 20 touring acts whose recording careers hadn’t already peaked before the millennium started – were Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney, and maybe Tim McGraw (whose '90s and '00s seem more or less equal). But that sort of thing can't last forever. And concert ticket sales are hurting this year too, right? (Also maybe makes sense to consider that, like the Republican Party's though I assume not so much {and of course the Republicans seem oblivious to this, except when wanting to gut the 14th Ammendment I guess}, country's fan base is diminishing as a percentage of the overall population. Hence, half-assed reaching out in recent years to black and Latin audiences, to not much avail I bet.)

xhuxk, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, just noticed that George had mentioned ticket sales being off this summer, too. Anyway, I've been wondering, given how much concert tickets cost these days -- if Toby and Chesney and McGraw have no problem filling seats (or less problem doing so than most artists of their generation), who exactly is their live audience? They can't be poor. (I guess it's possible they charge less for tickets than comparable rock or rap or pop acts do -- I haven't comparison shopped -- and maybe they just tour more. But that Billboard Top 20 I referred to was based on total gross dollars, not number of tickets.)

xhuxk, Friday, 13 August 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, as you wipe out the middle class you steadily diminish the audience for popular music, or at least sales of recordings. People will continue to 'watch' the acts on the cheapest network television
stations.

The younger kids, who buy Taylor Swift, are naturally on-line. And they're still greatly shielded from the savage economy by their parents. However, once out of there in a decade, then you see them crash too, with everyone else when they get thrown into it. Or we have a country like Japan, where everyone stays home with their parents and spending tails off.

I think, long term, it's a very grim picture. The plutonomy doesn't need or pay for mass entertainment.
Only things like buying tickets to see U2 at Soldier Field, when you live in the Hamptons, or flying somewhere to see Paul McCartney.

I don't think there's anything good in data that shows Trace Adkins fans buying 17 percent less stock on-line and that therefore Nashville wishes to invest in more teenage acts as an answer. They're overlooking a bigger picture, one that says Brad Paisley's shiny 'future' doesn't include a lot of middle class discretionary spending on entertainments. It's not the middle class that buys the goofy dancing robot in his video. And if you need to replace your chrome spring leg, you'll spend on that before you spend on music if your money's not much and social benefits don't quite cover it.

The point being: When you kill the middle class everything everyone has come to live and know slowly
shrivels up and dies. Except the mansions. And the residences now become flophouses right beside them where the people who are the servant class live. I learned this working the census.

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Nugent always makes a big deal out of how he's a responsible steward of the wild. And a tremendous hunter.

If you're read my blog tab on him this summer -- it's amusing but also aggravating and a bit sad -- you've come away with impression that Nugent is not only crazy, but also quite mean, a character trait which he seems to regularly enjoy justifying. Now we have even more proof, this news just in:

Rock star and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent was fined $1,750 today in Yuba County Superior Court
after pleading no contest to baiting deer on his hunting show "Spirit of the Wild."

Yuba City attorney Jack Kopp, representing Theodore Anthony Nugent, 61, entered a no contest plea to
Department of Fish and Game charges of baiting deer and not having a deer tag "countersigned" at the
closest possible location, said Deputy District Attorney John Vacek.

Baiting deer is legal in some states but not in California, said state Fish and Game spokesman
Patrick Foy.

But wait, it gets worse.

Nugent was originally facing a charge of killing a "spike" — an immature buck — on
the program but the charge was dropped during negotiations between his attorney and the
Yuba County District Attorney's Office, said Foy.

A spike is a deer with two antlers that have not yet "forked," Foy said.

A Department of Fish and Game warden saw the show in March and "just about fell out of
his chair" when he saw Nugent with the buck, according to Foy.

A subsequent investigation led to the baiting charge. A search warrant was served in
April at Moore's home in Yuba County, said Foy.

Foy said Nugent was "very cooperative" ...

Killing a spike buck. For his TV show which has a relatively low audience. And then pleading it down to baiting.

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's about the worst sin you can commit as a hunter--I grew up around all that, altho I bird-hunted myself. (don't any more--the extent of my interest in firearms would be skeet-shooting, which I used to be really good at. We don't have any firearms in our house.)

the picture George paints is grim and depressing but very accurate. the Republicans have succeeded in killing the middle class. the music-making methods that are the cheapest and most homespun will survive; I think this is part of the reason bluegrass and acoustic music in general have thrived, as a throwback to simpler times.

ebbjunior, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

This homemade video of mind sort of came out as the anti-'welcome to the future'. Much shorter, too, honest. I recommend the Quicktime version slightly over the WM file.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/08/04/the-collapse-of-the-economy-for-the-middle-class-explained/

Gorge, Friday, 13 August 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Yall know the principle of programming tolerable hits, that can be lodged on the playlist for an okay while--nothing too good or band, nothing too intense for damn sure, at least in a way that doesn't let you automatically shuffle it into the middle distance, once you've gotten used to its intensity (a nice hot air balloon)? Well, now I'm thinking this used to be harder to do, when stereo LPs were more of an elite audiophile niche etc,(plus, Adult Pop was dominated by moody Sinatra, and cool jazz was a little too intense also, for the affectless effect--even the too-cool/wannabee stuff was like "Hey honey ain't I cooool--now take off my glasses") Most mass-aimed music was via AM radio, 45s, the occasional mono 10 or 12 inch (which I used to buy with my allowance and hoarded school lunch money, cos they were significantly cheaper) A song meant to be or anyway with the potential to be tolerably popular, might sound weird, in a good band or just plain way, or gratingly cheesy--not centrist (see, I can be political too)(also, humanity is an intergalatic virus, so why aren't there more country songs about it, explicitly I mean? Take off the hat and shades!)

dow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"Might sound weird, in a good *bad* or just plain way" was what I meant to say.

dow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

What, like stuff on Hee-Haw?

Gorge, Saturday, 14 August 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, when it was meant to sound nicer than that!

dow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link

of course Hee Haw was Laugh-In x Hillbilly Corn, and HC was big mainstream fad in 40s, hung on after that in some quarters, re the hillbilly jokes on Mad Men. But those are not nice jokes, and Laugh-In with a whiff of the barnyard was not nice enough for some.

dow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, but Gene London of Cartoon Corners General Store and Captain Kangaroo liked to play the spoons. They were the epitome of nice. And, of course, there was Sally Starr.

I never actually thought there wasn't anything cruel about the two guys on Hee-Haw doing the snippet of "Pfft You Were Gone." However, it's possible they were doing it for the hint of derision the weekly skit would bring out in viewers.

Gorge, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Taylor Swift is a half-way decent singer and musician, singing more or less who she is (or at least used to be, before the fame) and what she knows. Its just that what she knows/who she is annoys the hell out of me.

JesseJane, Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

You mean she's conceited? She's pretty erratic live, when she tries to do without backup singers.

dow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Even Peter Parker got conceited after that black Spidey suit thing got stuck to him.

Gorge, Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Same thing happened to me, I'm a better man for copping to it.

dow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for the list xhuxx. Anybody heard this?

Caitlin Rose: Own Side Now
(Names)
4 / 5
Maddy Costa
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 August 2010 22.45 BST
Caitlin Rose
Own Side Now
Names Records
2010
Earlier this year, Nashville-based Caitlin Rose released an EP of songs recorded in 2008, which introduced a promisingly wry lyricist unable to decide whether she wanted to sound like Loretta Lynn or Kimya Dawson. On her debut album, the 23-year-old thrillingly finds her own voice. Own Side is sad and strong as she walks away from a careless lover, playful in Spare Me as she dashes off the delicious line: "Love is just one more useless thing you don't need, but you can't throw away." Now pure country, her songwriting has taken a leap, too, delivering a profusion (sometimes an excess) of memorable choruses and arrangements freighted with emotion. Her assurance is most striking in two contrasting songs about self-discovery, New York City and Things Change: the former a ribald picaresque, the latter suffused with regret, set to bruised piano and quivering cymbals.

guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2010

dow, Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

conjunto accordionist Esteban Jordan died. I posted an obit here:

Norteño y conjunto: search and destroy.

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 August 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

I listened to it in a shop last week, and I thought it sounded good - it's a Mark Nevers production, of the light and airy variety, they generally sound good. I wasn't grabbed enough by the songs on first listen to shell out the full price, for whatever that's worth.

Tim, Monday, 16 August 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

So, that toilet that George sang his blues about apparently pushed China over the top -- Don't know if anybody else noticed, but business sections are reporting this morning that, sometime after midnight, China officially passed Japan as the world's second-biggest economy, behind the U.S. Congratulations!

George also sent me this link to a (Vancouver/Regina/Nashville-based) singer/guitarist excellently named Val Halla over the weekend. He calls her ""Kellie Pickler does ZZ Top or maybe the Road Hammers," which means I definitely need to check her out when I don't have so much family visiting.

http://www.valhallaonline.com/music.php

And this morning, Pareles on the new Mellencamp (my review of which goes online tomorrow I believe), and Caramanica on the new Adkins. Re the former: Just goes to show how musically illiterate I am, but I swear in three decades of thinking too much (but not enough?) about this stuff, it never once occurred to me that "refrains" and "choruses" are two different things. And re the latter: Just goes to show how porn-illiterate I am, but can't believe I missed the "Brown Chicken Brown Cow" (in Trace's barn sex song) = "bow chicka wow wow" pun. Have never heard that, uh, chord progression or whatever in an actual porn movie, I'm pretty sure (not that I'm anywhere near to an expert on those in the first place), but have usually gotten the (dumb) joke when Veronica Mars or whoever uses it. I guess Trace, as is his tendency, was just too subtle about the issue. (Also, I definitely like Trace's rockers more than Caramanica does, and he seems to have use for more of the ballads. We both like the funnny songs.)

Anyway, scroll down for both reviews:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/16/arts/music/16choice.html

xhuxk, Monday, 16 August 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't tell if the Pareles review is a pick or pan.

Thanks for the Everett rec, xhuxk! I've been playing Red Revelations all weekend.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 August 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

By definition, the NY Times can't like an album with music as xhuxk described. Not packaged with reviews about Brian Wilson, the 'grizzled antique haze' of John Mellencamp, and whatever is on the page
over. Nope, can't happen, like waiting to observe table-top fusion. If you think you saw it, check instruments again.

Gorge, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

China officially passed Japan as the world's second-biggest economy, behind the U.S.
Congratulations!

It's the beginning of the last chapter of a book we all get to be in.

Gorge, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

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Caitlin Rose. Heard and still have this EP she did a couple years ago with some originals and a cover of the Stones' "Dead Flowers." Think she was about 18 or something. Her mom is a well-known Nashville songwriter. Saw Rose at a show opening for Holly Golightly in late '08 and wasn't knocked out or anything, she's cute. As with a lot of Mark Nevers records, it seems to have been released in the UK before it got out in the USA.

ebbjunior, Monday, 16 August 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

music-making methods that are the cheapest and most homespun will survive; I think this is part of the reason bluegrass and acoustic music in general have thrived, as a throwback to simpler times.

Scott and Phil had related theories on a different thread a couple weeks ago. To be honest, though I do agree with a lot of what Scott says, this still mostly sounds like wishful thinking to me (especially Edd's Unplugged Wins Out hypothesis), but I'm not sure I can exactly formulate why yet.

i could be crazy but i think one of the hidden benefits of the destruction of the record industry is a new local yokelism. people doing more stuff on their own for local folks and not caring - or even hoping anymore - that they are gonna hit it big anytime soon. so there just seems to be more of an emphasis on DIY fun. people putting out their own stuff, selling their own stuff, booking their own shows. and when people tour its more of an excuse to take a vacation from their day job than an opportunity to become discovered or be the next big thing. everyone who plays here just seems genuinely happy to be playing for people and they don't really want anything more. they certainly don't want to be the next lightning bolt or whatever. i'm sure there are still lots of people out there with ambition and drive for glory, but with so few pots of gold over the rainbow out there people have become more realistic in a sense. playing for laughs and for your friends is way more satisfying than jumping through hoops for some label schmuck if you ask me. and i realize this means that a lot of great musicians get stuck working at whole foods or giving tons of guitar lessons instead of touring the world, but whole foods isn't that bad and SOMEONE has to teach bored kids how to play the guitar. also, people are less and less willing to pay big money for big shows. so they are seeking out the free folk festivals and jazz in the park afternoons and whatever else is nearby and free. and i think that's great. i really do.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 20:31

I've been thinking the same thing, that it's gonna go from "Hey, have you heard this record?" to "There's this guy in my town who's a really great guitar player."

― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 21:29

xhuxk, Monday, 16 August 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The larger point in the joys of rediscovering yokelism is that it was never that great to begin with.

Having worked at a newspaper which was obsessed with yokelism in the pre-Web era, I can personally attest that there's often not much of real greatness in the local crops, no matter revision of your standards downward. And such yokelism place-in-line is dictated by all the usual negatives which were in place prior to the great Internet enlightenment. Who has the best connections at the local club, who is the big shot at the music store, who is the best friends with the features editor at the local newspaper. Seen it, worked to dismember it, done it.

And then there's the argument that devolving the middle class until its grapes-of-wrath type American pauperism tend to like take any shine off the pleasures of always having the opportunity to throw a few dollars at the local buskers in the park.

Gorge, Monday, 16 August 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, the unplugged-wins-out world is not one I wish for. Aesthetically I'm on the side of the people who plug in and wig out on the supposedly superior folkie-isms and base usages of the past. I'm not a fan of most acoustic music that's being made at present, and I've made my problems with bluegrass pretty clear too. I like acoustic guitars and I have a sneaking half-love for folkiedom in general, but I think rocking out with acoustic guitars is what's cool about them. So my comment is purely descriptive not even prescriptive much less proscriptive. The next I time I go to the local hipster record store and see some guy with a girl and they're playing banjo and cello...but I do think this era is one of revived yokelism as Scott puts it, and he's describing East Nashville and its array of neo-folkies and Dedicated Songwriters above, not just Nashville obviously but a lot of stuff. Part of the problem I have with country music--well, not the music itself so much but the thinking about it--is this reverence for the past that doesn't seem to much of a sense of humor. It's just like blues fan generally are, they see the surface elements of the form or think it's the usual reverse-hipsterist kind of thing that suddenly in the '80s made stuff like the Louvin Brothers cool to like, because it all reversed the taste settings hip music fans had been cruising on for years. I saw it happen here as well all did probably in our respective enclaves.

Personally, I never had much use for it, to me country was honky-tonk music about fuck-ups, drunks, pill-poppers, bearded ass men, truck drivers, good old boys who know how to bury dead cattle and horses in fields using large-scale earth-moving equipment, and so forth. No point in acting hip about any of it, it's just what the form once upon a time described for an audience who completely understood what and where the fun was.

Also (this is an interesting subject, don't you think?), I think the role of naked ambition is an essential part of thinking about pop music. you want to entertain people, make them happy, enlarge their world, get sexed and get rich. the guy nursing his dreams while bagging at Whole Foods may have these dreams, in fact he likely does, but is he honest enough to say so? The acoustic-music thing enables a lot of marginally talented but hip, sincere and therefore probably boring musicians--good people but totally boring musicians, which describes a lot of unexceptionable but completely forgettable people in Nashville--to have a career. The greatest country artists of the past (some are still going) are totally insane and driven people, Ray Price was as driven a guy as Miles Davis or Duke Ellington, and Bill Monroe was too. I think it's fine to play music for your own pleasure, I know a lot of people who do it and I like to play a little piano, it's relaxing and I usually learn something useful to me as a writer on music. But I believe in professionalism and ambition and I certainly don't wish for the Unplugged People to win, altho I think they kinda already have.

ebbjunior, Monday, 16 August 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

The acoustic-music thing enables a lot of marginally talented but hip, sincere and therefore probably boring musicians--good people but totally boring musicians, which describes a lot of unexceptionable but completely forgettable people in Nashville--to have a career. The greatest country artists of the past (some are still going) are totally insane and driven people

Much much smaller talent people, but also descriptive of the Lehigh Valley.

Since this type doesn't have much of a sense of humor in any local genre -- too busy adhering to
local mores with too much reverence to style rather than the risk of being taken for fools.

Gorge, Monday, 16 August 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

What's happened with "acoustic" music is of course in some ways a good thing. Historical perspective and broadening-of-canon are things I'm all for. Analogous in many ways to what's happened with blues and African-American music--scholarship has succeeded in helping us see how what used to be designated just "blues" has intersected with entertainment music, as it's called, over the years. Demystified it to some degree. I also think part of this is that there's just a generation or two of people who have very different ideas of what rock 'n' roll is than a boomer (born Nov. 1958) like me does. It's inevitable that the marginal music of yesteryear assumes a luster it didn't have due to its relationship to music that was far more influential at the time, and more popular. I realize that it's impossible to fight revisionism. I suppose once you drain the angst from musical forms that are about suffering, you get what we have in today's country music?

Was gonna post this on the Los Lobos thread, but seemed relevant to country--the new one, Tin Can Trust, sure has some moments, esp. in the opener, "Burn It Down," that remind me of country. In fact, mentally add another voice to that arrangement and you have something pretty close to what the Row does. In that, it's pretty good, as is the whole record, but not great, or maybe it's just that the words signify more to me than the music, which seems a tad too received and relaxed to really bowl anyone over. They do make you feel the resignation and sense of loss they want you to feel, but perhaps the main difference between it and comparable Nashville product is the way Los Lobos comes at the subject of economic downturn with a built-in out. Which may mean their cultural parameters are more capacious and they're more honest about what they're observing, plus obviously they're coming at it from a lefty position. I do like it when they suggest blues and soul throughout the record. Funny, listening to the wistful Patterson Hood record from last year and hearing some similarities, as in "Granddaddy." Or the cover of Todd Rundgren's "The Range War." In fact, Patterson may even be better at it than Los Lobos, even given Hood's inferiority to David Hidalgo as singer. Hood's social reality is pretty fucking grim and he makes me feel it with the music and the words.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

the role of naked ambition is an essential part of thinking about pop music

Yeah, obviously, I've been writing that for 25 years -- If you get rid of music's hunger for stardom and riches, you tend to lose something musically, too. Humility and settling for the neighborhood bar are limiting by definition. So I'm with George here -- one big reason local yokels stay local is that the vast majority of them just aren't very exciting. (And one of the reasons I've mostly given up the quest for the perfect CDBaby act I was on a few years back is that, in the long run, even most of the good ones were no match from the stuff I was hearing from actual record labels, frequently major ones. They might sound pretty good for a few listens, but a year down the line, I wasn't returning to them.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

"...no match for the stuff..." etc. (In other words, it's easy to romanticize the best band in your neighborhood, and they might even be fun to drink a beer to -- and maybe the best folkie in your 'hood is fun to drink coffee to, I wouldn't know -- but they're probably still not that good.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, right, I kinda gave up on the CDBaby quest myself. about the best you can hope for is like some mid-level Appleseed act--I tried in vain yesterday to listen to the Angel Band and gave up.

Nashville is slightly different in that there are a lot of "local" acts who are better than the average, like Will Kimbrough, Tommy Womack, David Olney...and the millions of singer-songwriters who make their own records here freed of the financial worries of stardom, like Beth Chapman or Gretchen Peters, often do interesting work, but it's all within safe confines. And right, ambition and its power seem obvious starting points for thinking about pop (and playing it), but I often feel as though we're living in a passive-aggressive age...what can a man do when he goes to Applebee's and the food is so mediocre than he wishes Michael Scott (of the American The Office) would pop over to sing a song or two? Talk about naked ambition.

Got Marshall Chapman's new one in the mail today. She wrote a fine autobiography. I remember hearing her stuff years ago and was never totally impressed--should I be? Haven't heard the new one yet but it looks depressingly sincere.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link

on the other hand, the folkie and the local seem pretty reliable at a certain level...like Marley's Ghost or someone, nothing terribly exciting, or Susan Cowsill...

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I've known people were talented as hell, but never made it past amateur or semi-prp for whatever reasons, like the circuting riding mining engineer who also teaches in West Alabama towns that lack school music teachers/band programs. But he should crawl off in the mine cos he's not plugged into the Frampton Standard. And of course there are no mediocre mega-stars, cos they're all so driven (Chesney's doing chin-ups right now!)

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry bout the typos, but yall's patronizing generalities make for us indigno citizens

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of Los Lobos, and not to be contrarian, but it seems like the narrator is on the verge, he's some old tired guy, but made up his mind to do something, take revenge and/or a commission, various indicators of volatility keep rolling by or up the block, and little jolts--I know, enough with the foreplay already, but the tension keeps getting renewed, reinforced, and the Dead cover fits perfectly, with no crunchy granola attached (it's all sudewalks and loud-ass traffic, the whole album, and then there's the sardonic "happy ending" history short). A cliche to say it's a soundtrack for movies you can make up, but it really seems to work that way, rumbling implications--if it were so definite a storyline, would get too familiar too fast, perhaps. Anyway, not country, but not bad (and could see some old country guy making his mind up like this guy does, though with a dif musical feel)

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Humility and settling for the neighborhood bar are limiting by definition.

This only begins to touch upon it. First, there's the stone fact that extremism of any kind isn't tolerated in the neighborhood bar. Unless the audience is going to spend its entire payday check, or a substantial part of it. Which forgives a lot.

I remember talking to the owner of a local place in the Valley and he always appreciated biker audiences. At the time, they wouldn't fill the place, but they'd spend all their money. So they could do anything, and so could the bands that played for them -- within some limits. And the owner never would mind.

On the other hand, most of the places I dealt with regularly got crimped if someone played too loud and the place wasn't packed enough to soak up the volume/shock wave. And that defeats a lot of very good music. Why? Because it's always too loud if it's to a half or more empty house -- which it always is for beginners no matter how good they are, or on off nights. So there's an imposed conservatism that selects for the mediocre and auto-limiters, the inoffensive run-of-the-mill types. And for some, they just get ruined -- or conditioned, from play too long in the joints. The 20-minute fern bar blues number by bald white guys in denim, coming to mind. Or anyone wearing a cowboy hat onstage in the corner in the Lehigh Valley.

Really, there's a book in the sociology of it.

Gorge, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

And of course there are no mediocre mega-stars, cos they're all so driven (Chesney's doing chin-ups right now!)

Nah, of course there are plenty. There's mediocrity (and, potentially, greatness) at all levels. (Though I like the current Chesney single fine, and he's made plenty of better than mediocre music, and I doubt many unknown acts even here in Austin could match his output over the years if given the chance.) All I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to pretend the biz's gatekeepers are entirely inept.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link

On the other hand, at least when it comes to music marketed as "rock" (as opposed to country), those biz gatekeepers sure have been doing a pretty amazing approximation of ineptness for the past decade or two regardless. So what the hell do I know? (Then again, it's not like I've heard all that many great "rock" acts they've missed the boat on in the recent past, either.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

And I also have to assume that some of the Southern Soul acts I've been liking so much lately (and would take over anybody currently on the r&b chart) might play live in somebody's neighborhood sometime. I just figure said neighborhoods are pretty few and far between, is all. So I'm obviously somewhat ambivalent on the issue. But Don, I'm really not trying to generalize patronizingly, honest.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, Don, you get at what I hear in the Lobos record. They're leaving the city but they don't know for where. Country guys don't know either, but their refuge is probably just farther out in the country. I do hear the opening track as, formally, country.

Probably I got off track talking about mid-level acts. I think the original point was just that acoustic music makes sense economically and socially in this era, for a lot of reasons. I think it's interesting to consider what kind of talent country execs/A&R people are looking for. Not especially songwriting, right, or "conceptual" (we all know how hostile the powers that be are to autonomy in country music), but...vocal, image, looks. And it is true there are plenty of people who are under-appreciated, as Don says, local guys with more to offer. So how do these folks make their Statement to the World, then? What does it take?

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

More on the Nuge's deer baiting. Apparently the show which had him doing this was broadcast in February, at which time it generated some comment on various hunting boards.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/08/17/tuesday-morning-nugent/

Gorge, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

It's true that local guys can get resented (and internalize directice for goin' above their raisin', but that's why I thought of the circuit-riding guy, not that circuits can't produce/demand a lot of hacks. But the biz is so weird now, and grassroots technology provides some new-ish means of recording and exposure (until the broadband frontier gets totally fenced in), that it's harder to provide reliable gate-keeping--but I don't want to automatically shut out *or* cut slack for underdogs. Yeah, Chesney's good sometimes.

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

internalize repressive directives, I meant.

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Nashville's Barry Mazor has a new column on country for the 9513 website. Read why Barry doesn't think it's any fun to read about Buck Owens as big country dick, and other burning issues, here.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

until the broadband frontier gets totally fenced in

Already happening to a certain extent. One, the US lags all other successful western nations in broadband. Mostly because of the US "free market" model, which isn't a free market at all, but which does view Internet as a commodity. So you get commodity pricing and service, which is uncompetitive and not great. Whereas other western nations see broadband as a key to good things, subsidizing better faster access for
cheaper.

Second, by default, all US providers cricumscribe your upload speed all the time. Download speed some of the time. You can make the argument that individuals don't need high velocity upload unless they want to pay a premium. But that just puts that half of broadband access into the domain of the usual big corporate entertainment providers.

Gorge, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, right now I'm listening to an NPR story, mentioning that the FCC has 400,000,000 bucks set aside to extend broadband into rural areas, but it's somewhat controversial, re Big Gov vs. Free Enterprise, though the latter hasn't shown much interest, which is the FCC's point. No doubt Rand Paul and his new colleagues will save us. The story also mentions rural access to medical specialists online, by referral and appointment. It can be good--if you have access. Somebody should write a country song about having to wait at the library, to get your auto-clock rationed hour of doing course work, filling out on-line job applications, or gov forms.Incl gov partnerships, like the IRS with Turbo-Tax, if you can afford that, and someday you'll have to afford and/or access something like that,privitization/"personalization" or no. Even to read the news, or a book--more and more new books will be e-reader only, and in the cloud,with your music collection, and remember Amazon cut off access to some Orwell titles, when they had a dispute with someone who thought he was still the "publisher."

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Access of those who thought they were still "buyers," that is.

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

that the FCC has 400,000,000 bucks set aside to extend broadband into rural areas

It's not the only problem. Broadband access, for a lot who have it in the US, just isn't that great a commercial offering compared to other places.

And telepresence doctoring doesn't replace face to face. I do recall, when going to the doctor many times as a child and teenager before it went goodbye, that touch and close eyeballing were parts of the
diagnostic process. As well as the continuity of seeing someone who knew your history a bit, from repeated visit.

Somebody should write a country song about having to wait at the library (etc) ...

Good idea.

Pete Seeger would be ripe for it if he could be regenerated.

Gorge, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

someone should write a song about the homeless using the library. in Nashville, we have a beautiful ornate huge library smack downtown. and the homeless use it for bathroom, sleep, internet access...they smell funky but I don't mind, far be it from me to judge, you know? but it generates a lot of angst.

Don, I passed along your addy to Mark Linn at Delmore re the Riley/ Gary Stewart record, which I want to write more about here, and will be covering for the Scene, looks like. Chuck, George, if you want to pass along yr physical addresses to me, Linn tells me he's into sending out some copies to people who might appreciate...feel free to hit me via ilx e-mail...

got a copy of two great Haggards from '71/'72 today, "California Cottonfields" and "Tulare Dust" era, one of those Capitol twofers...man, what great stuff, what astringent guitar playing, and ol' Hag won't be seen at Huntsville, no sir.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Great,thanks ebb! Mebbe I can cover that too. Yeah, I know about the homeless in the bigger library, the one across the river. I accidentally got one of those guys in trouble with the Montgomery Police, though he may have deserved (and emerged a better man for) it, far as I heard later. Nashville-wise, "King of the Road" seems pretty close, "Smokin' old stogies I have found/Checkin' the locks when there's no one around", not that they all do that, though the ones that do aren't nec. that discreet.

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, after the Hag doc I linked upthread, was re-reading xgau's 70s tracking of Merle, wotta narrative. Think I might get the tracks he mentions from the Amazon MP3 Store, see what kind of wagon train that can turn into (Kinda reminds me of when I read, in unbroken sequence, all xhuxx's Accidental Evolution comments on John Mellentemplate)(whose new album sequences performances in Sun Studios, Robert Johnson's hotel room, hell why not by Hank's grave, John? Yall come!)

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

(Greil Marcus's ancestors are buried across the row from Hank, I shit you not)

dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Am absorbing the new Adkins CD, on xhuxk's recommendation. I like it, more later. However, the lead-off tune, the boom-chika-boom thing isn't great at all. Once it's going it sounds like something I'd pass on from Jason Aldean. It's boring mostly hookless rhythmic hard rock lite with stupid lyrics. And it has the Deliverance-banjo meaninglessly tied to it, the equiv of a jaw harp (which would be better). And someone should explain to me why it's necessary to crap up so many cuts with it as seasoning. Anyway, he loses it for the rest of the CD, which is great by me.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I hope I wasn't too misleading there. I like the guitar crunch that "Brown Chicken Brown Cow" revolves around, and the porn-pun conceipt hit me as passing clever once the frigging New York Times explained it to me, but as a song it's still kind of meh -- not nearly as successful a butt-rocker as "Ala-Freakin-Bama" or "Whoop A Man's Ass," or "Marry For Money" or "Hauling One Thing" last time out for that matter. (And I still much prefer X to Cowboy's Back In Town, as an album.) Favorites on the new one, beyond the two just named, are probably "Hold My Beer" and "Hell, I Can Do That," and maybe "Break Her Fall." Though I may just need more time with the ballads, as usual.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 07:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Where it's best, as in most, are the ones with the shiny guitars doing the tactically big brang and soft slash to a swing. Which describes how "Hold My Beer" comes right in before getting into the conversational funnies.

And it's not mucked up by lack of hook.

Surprisingly, I tend to like the ballads a little more -- like the title cut -- because he sings
them so much better, really throwing himself into them. Plus they bring the big heart cinerama arrangements.

Don't really care for "Whoop a Man's Ass" too. A bit rote, can't feel rage that oughta be there.

As I said re "Marry for Money," someone discovered vintage Status Quo guitars for that.

"Don't Mind If I Don't" is another standard timewaster, sounding to me like something I'd see
Chesney burping out in video except the latter'd be singing about the beach and doing the poor man's Jimmy Buffett.

"Ala-Freakin-Bama," for obvious reasons. The guitars and football cheer do it everytime. If it were overplayed, though, I'd get sick of it fast.

"Break Her Fall" is another of the cineramic things.

Four bonus cuts eat it except for the one about singing about photos on mantles.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Note, "Marry for Money" being from the previous.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Adkins album about twenty straight great minutes, from "Hold My Beer" to "Hell, I Can Do That" including the title cut and the first vid song I've seen, ""This Ain't No Love Song." In terms of the time of diminished expectations, that shoves it across the goal line. Without tripping over its two feet in open field, to paraphrase one of its tales.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's me on Trace's X--2 1/2 stars.

From its opening song, which finds Trace Adkins taking a girl home to his mother, X plays like the satisfied, venal musings of a strictly material kind of guy. “She’s sweet like a Cadillac/Sweet like a stack of cold, hard cash,” Trace sings, and doesn’t stint on the sweet details: “Tattoos in secret places.” His mother should be proud. The sincere moments are all right, but Frank Rogers’ generic-plus production honors commonplace usages in a way that obscures Adkins’ essential talent, which is for comedy. The soulful “Let’s Do That Again” is listenable; the blues guitar and and dumb wit of “Marry for Money” make for great fun. Let’s hope Trace gets the trust fund and hot tub--love can come later.

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Do agree that Adkins tends to save his best singing for the ballads. Just get the impression that's not where he gets his best material. (Which wasn't always the case, so I could well be wrong.)

Anyway, here I am on the new John Cougie Mellentemplate album, the box set he put out last month, and The Early Years (guess which one I like best):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/08/mellencamp.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the early years...? (now going to Rhapsody)...

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yep. he was better in the Bloomington days for sure. I don't hate his later stuff, but I find it depressing...

ebbjunior, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the funniest things Adkins does on the record comes right off, as the opening to "Hold My Beer" with the "Uuuuuhhh, dearly beloved ..." With any other kind of American voice, maybe not so funny. With
his baritone and the southern accent, perfect.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

But I think anything said in a Pennsy Dutch accident is hilarious, so my standards are low.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KVmRtEO18k

Was considering writing about this. It's featured by Sean Hannity since the band has been made a big part of his Freedom Rally.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectid=370&articleid=20100819_455_WK12_CUTLIN237981

The Tulsa paper writes about Hannity, Skynyrd and the concert, bringing up a couple points worth discussing, although a little awkwardly. For example, all of the original members of Lynyrd Skynyrd are dead except for two. One, Ed King, isn't in the band. Only Gary Rossington is. And while Johnny Van Zant is Ronnie's brother...

So, de facto, LS 2.0 or 3.0 are the 'best' Tea Party band. They touch all the same idiotic white-man's- paranoia themes in the folk videos I posted yesterday, only with great singing and musicality. They're going after the same pockets as Worley.

You could make a long discussion about how it differs from the subtlety of "Sweet Home Alabama" and the mythology of that over the years, but I mostly just write it off to the fact that 90 percent of the band is dead and now they do what they have to do for the Nugent circuit.

Interesting added notes about Charlie Daniels, nothing of which really surprises, though. No surprise the Hannity charity isn't much of a charity, either.

It's quite something to make the mass delusiuon "they're gonna take my guns and my bible" the central part of your record. I don't believe the Obama administration has done a single thing in either of these areas.

Gorge, Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I've also been thinking about it and "mass delusion" doesn't quite describe what's going on. Near mass psychosis is closer.

Gorge, Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

In terms of mass psychosis, this would seem to have some relevance:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/08/growing-number-of-americans-falsely-believe-president-obama-is-muslim.html

Gorge, Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Boy, didn't think I could be made to feel embarrassed about admitting to like watching football. But Chesney's eight-minute (8 minutes!) video for "Boys of Fall" sure took a good stab at it.

Gracious, what's he trying for, entry into the hall of fame, a second career at NFL Films, a
starring role as Ara Parseghian in a remake of Rudy or the Gavin Grey character in Everybody's All American?

Gorge, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

SJers (but not me) review new singles from

Taylor Swift

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2666

and Miranda Lambert

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2668

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Good lord, this thread exploded since I last checked in! It's probably a bit late to jump into the Daryl Worley discussion, however much I may want to bring up his Playgirl spread, so I'll just start from the bottom.

Anyone care to take a shot at parsing this blurb from the "Only Prettier" TSJ:

How long do you think it’ll be before country lyricists realize that no one who actually lives in cities spends much time contemplating hypothetical bar out-tartings with rowdy crews from the sticks? Or really, any potentially awkward encounter with corn-fed denizens? That, perhaps, the point of cities is to provide us with something better to do with our time?

That strikes me as an especially ugly thing to say, and with not a hell of a lot of actual relevance to the lyrical content of "Only Prettier." But maybe I'm being a bit too sensitive here?

The new Trace Adkins set *sounds* pretty great-- the rock licks have enough heft to them without the piss-poor compression issues on so many recent country albums-- but the number of novelty songs grates. I didn't like Joe Diffie's 90s albums for pretty much the same reason. Adkins is a fine enough singer, but he only has a handful of singles and album tracks that I would revisit on purpose.

New Joey & Rory out next month isn't much to get worked up about at all.

jon_oh, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked "Only Prettier." Heard it via the video. Maybe the vid had something to do with it, starring Pickler and the girl from Lady A in side roles, and probably others I didn't recognize. The guitars have the shapr glisten to 'em that I always like.

Gorge, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

piss-poor compression issues on so many recent country albums

Which ones? (I'm not sure my ears are atuned to "compression issues", good or bad, at all, fwiw.)

New Joey & Rory out next month isn't much to get worked up about at all.

Nor was their first one, tbh, but there's something vaguely interesting in the lead cut/key cut/(first single maybe?) being called "Album Number Two." Turns cliched before long, but still -- very meta, as was some other new country track heard in the last week. But right now I can't think of what that was.

Sunny Sweeney "From A Table Away" now getting country play in Austin; Kevin Fowler "Pound Sign (#?*!)" getting more and more -- both sound great on a car radio, so both climbing my 2010 singles list as we speak. And until it slows down at the end, at least, the new Randy Houser album is growing on me, too.

xhuxk, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Re compression, Miranda Lambert songs hurt my ears worse than the Sleigh Bells. Everything's as loud as everything else, and her voice is strident to begin with. That said, I like Miranda better than the Sleigh Bells. I'm not sure who else Jon hears having compression issues, but this makes me wanna hear the Adkins more.

That ugly Singles Jukebox comment really pissed me off until I listened to "Only Prettier", and I guess Miranda's kind of asking for it. I'll say she's equally ugly, only funnier. But she's not really talking about what she does with her time in that song, which seems to be the implication of the comment. I'll assume she leads a full life.

dr. phil, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

As far as compression goes, it seems like the Loudness War has finally come to Nashville in the last year or so. Revolution is probably the worst offender I can recall offhand-- it's a good thing I like the songs and Miranda's singing, because the record itself sounds awful-- but I'd say that Carrie Underwood's Play On, the last Jack Ingram album, Lee Brice's record, and Blake Shelton's two EPs from this year all suffer from the same problem of everything being "as loud as everything else."

Here's Chris Neal's much more articulate take on the subject from the last Nashville Scene comments:

Last year, too much loudness (that is, an excess of volume and dynamic-range compression in the mix and/or mastering) did unforgivable damage to what should have been my favorite rock album of the year, Metallica's Death Magnetic. This year it did the same for what should have been my favorite country album of the year, Miranda Lambert's Revolution. Here is an album filled with wonderful songs and terrific performances, neither of which I can stand to listen to because the sound has been so distorted by loudness and flattened by compression that it breaks my heart. The so-called "Loudness War" has been raging for more than a decade in the rock world, but Revolution will always stand for me as the first great country album to become a casualty. This vile practice is the mortal enemy of modern music, and it should be stopped immediately.

To which I would say: Yes, that.

The first single from the new Joey & Rory is actually "This Song's for You," the duet with Zac Brown. Basically a protracted handjob to a crowd at a show: Probably plays fine enough live, but I can't think of a single reason anyone would want to hear a recorded version. They're a charming enough couple in their interviews, in a way that only intermittently comes across in their music. The single and the album overall, despite the self-referential title cut, are both just inert.

"Pound Sign" has already gone to recurrent status on the Billboard chart, but I was surprised that it didn't even crack the top 30. The Sunny Sweeney single is a grower, though. With so many new singles from Underwood, Taylor Swift, Rascal Flatts, Sugarland, and Brad Paisley all having debuted in the last month, it's going to be hard for Sweeney to push very far into the top 40, but I could get on board with that.

jon_oh, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha ha, I posted that Neal comment upthread, again bitching about Lambert's sound. So, agreed--except Jon, please tell me you're not also coming out in favor of "Death Magnetic."

I'll go ahead and link to Nick Southall's Imperfect Sound Forever article, an excellent explanation of why overuse of compression is bad, in case people haven't read it.

dr. phil, Thursday, 19 August 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Refined what I had to say upstream a bit, added some things, some repetition:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/08/19/another-tea-party-band/

Gorge, Friday, 20 August 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to the Riley record again today. One great song about a guy who learns how to be a man when his dad returns from doing time for fucking up the dude whom his mom was fucking, another great one about stopping to smoke weed in a "field of green," two takes on the title track, "Grandma's Roadhouse," which mentions bar-b-que pork on cornbread, a very Marmalade "Reflections of My Life" chord progression in one called "Pictures," and plenty of rock grooves that are never overdone but which really rock. Extra tracks include one called "Got to Get Away" (not the Rolling Stones tune) that chugs out on three minutes of fuzz guitar. The vocals by Gary Stewart are fine; the vocals by Riley Watkins himself are even better, robust, energized, and reminiscent of Burton Cummings at his most astringent or Moby Grape's Bob Moseley. In short, a masterpiece of a record; there's real passion and delicacy, but at its most generic it sounds like great Southern rock without a shred of chauvinistic preening and like Sahm or CCR or the Grape without any of the stiffness of CCR or the laziness of Sahm or the formalist fuck-off of the Grape. Riley Watkins went on to play in bands in the '70s and played again with Stewart in the late '70s and early '80s--you can see him with Stewart in Austin City Limits footage from '81. I talked to Watkins this afternoon; he said that in the early days Stewart's focus was almost entirely rock 'n' roll, and when Watkins saw Stewart perform in the mid-'70s, doing some songs during a Charley Pride set in which Stewart played piano in Pride's band, Watkins was shocked at how completely Stewart had veered toward country. Production on Grandma's Roadhouse is excellent, great stereo separation and blend of guitars and electric piano, with vocals expressing a yearning for roots and peace of mind, even, that the lyrics themselves both confirm and deny. If there's a stronger divorce song told from the viewpoint of a wounded child than "Daddy's Coming Home" I don't know it.

I agree on the compression issue. It also has ruined a lot of rock records, like the last Go-Betweens album--listen to the way the otherwise awesome "Darlinghurst Nights" grates on the ear due to the attempt to make everything LOUD. It's fucked up.

ebbjunior, Friday, 20 August 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

So Mellenfarmer's furrowed brow became the aforementioned and enduring template for so many, incl Worley at his best. I wouldn't mind following Adkins across the tracks, to what would be the good side of town in my case, but also I still like Mellen as an old-James-Dean folkie,with restless cig smoke from sea to shining (incl deep-oiled) sea. Premise of new album seems pretentious, but I liked a couple of tracks when blindfold-tested, also still like this set, though my writing isn't quite what I'd want now:
http://www.villagevoice.com/content/printVersion/217257. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jun 4, 2010
Little Punk Houses For You and Me
Don Allred
published: August 31, 1999
John Mellencamp: Rough Harvest Mercury
Thee former Mr. Cougrat's latest offering, Rough Harvest, is a compatible collection of big hits and personal chestnuts, re-recorded with his fave-ravin' fiddle-and-drum band, during rehearsals, gigs, and other moments gracefully gleaned from the glimmering old gravytrain. No more huge hits a-coming, probably, but anyone who once tapped a toe to, then started to yawn along with, Hootie, Ani, R.E.M., or for that matter Dylan's once-ballyhooed Rolling Thunder Review (past Desire's "Hurricane") will nevertheless find here dang near a whole album's worth of purty pet (not pat) sounds suitable to shaking a stick or even a leg to (or at). Knee-haah!
However. Once I got used to jigging around at RH's immediately engaging hoedown, I started fretting the prominence of its folkie keep-on- truckin' farm, good-taste-bound. Bumper crop of beats notwithstanding, was this not basically bad faith with the hard-(Coug Age)-won, and even harder-(1989 98's Human Wheels, Dance Naked, Mr. Happy Go Lucky, John Mellencamp)-established balance of acoustic/electric, loud/soft, boy/girl "secret" alliances? Mellencholy comfort food for his/our downtime?
I mean, just consider a little ditty I know you know, about Jack and Diane. Ever the astute collector, Mr. Camp copped (one of) this song's famous phrases from Garland Jeffreys's Ghost Writer. GJ's "Spanish Town" was as much limbo as ghetto, about a guy who's "gonna suck on a chili dog"— seems like that's all his Hot Latin Heritage comes down to. Likewise, Jack and Diane are about to see their chili dreams left on ice, down by the Tastee-Freez. But there's something almost luxurious in the way John rasps "Ohhh Yeahhh," and then positively flourishing is "Life! goes on-n-n"— one hand's resting on the wheel, the other's magnanimously waving another driver by. So, " . . . long after the thrill/of livin' is gone" still is, like, foreboding, but ends up presuming it's got all the time in the world to be that way (and to take moody-broody satisfactions where it can).

My favorite bits involve the guitars. Acoustic serenades for Jack and Diane; mushy stuff offset by a remarkable refrain. Stern electric chords move in like a starchfront, only to meet a little patch of finger-, gum-, and even string-pops spelling out "So what?" (As in "What are you rebelling against?" "Whaddaya got?") Cherrybomb-flava'd topping, on such an almost just-plain-pained-abundance of 'tude— thus, pop-wise, we're given the pause that (still!) refreshes. So ('tudinally), let's compare Harvest's nice new versions to the originals.

"Rain on the Scarecrow" (1985) was where John got (some of) the bathetic pseudo-populist crap scared out of him by the reality of farms disappearing in an epidemic of foreclosures, every day. So "Jack And Diane" 's robust "So what?" became two notes endlessly repeated by a rhetorical worm of mechanical guitar: "Dur-dur?" automatically shredding a glare-ice storm over a farm being taken, burying John's merely human, merely eloquent outrage. This current edition is merely (?) eloquent, period. And "Jackie Brown" 's new purism dilutes Jackie's possible solace, glimpsed in Human Wheels's more "commercial" string arrangement. Yep, mighty Rough Harvest, by crackey— those two were too old for geldin'. But the rest of it's a trade-off that gets better all the time.

Human Wheels's title song is now minus some of the studio version's catchiness, but also its arty-farty vocal filtration. The "Losing My Religion" parajangle R.E.M.ains (electric!). One or two other numbers do miss Kenny Aronoff (he's with Melissa Etheridge now), but new drummer Dane Clark (plus the return of Me'shell Ndegéocello's bass and vocals) keeps a live "Wild Night" shoulderbopping past Van Morrison's fancily nostalgic Tupelo Honey original. And the traditional "In My Time of Dying" 's buoyantly celebratory momentum makes Led Zep's (copyrighted) 11-minute Physical Graffiti wankathon seem positively Spïnal Tap.

As for the (appropriately) smoother stuff, that Pied Piper glint in Dylan's (Bootleg Series box) "Farewell Angelina" ain't here, probably because Mellen figures we'll never get out of this world alive, so rather than tease, he takes us on a merry-go-round tour of the song. Then he decides what the heck: his own "Minutes to Memories" forgoes its original antsiness to float a few between-the-Earth-the-Moon-and-the-Greyhound suspensions in its title's process. "Under the Boardwalk" 's harmonies have a cookout by the sea. And overall, Miriam Sturm's violin plays off Janas Hoyt's vocals, as well as her own (and everybody's rhythm): hazy one minute, prismatic the next. John's never sung better than on this album, un-der the moh-woh-woh-ohhn, of course. Pawp's Art!

dow, Friday, 20 August 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to the new Caitlin Rose right now. "who's gonna take me home/who's gonna want me now, ah-ah." She don't wanna go it alone. Voice raises to a pitch of hysteria and then the arrangement loses the strings and she quavers about how it's not her right to push her man around. "For the Rabbits" opens also with strings and then settles into a 12/8 thing in a vaguely countrypolitan thing with elec piano and Beatle-esque chord progressions and tremelo guitar. nice 'politan chord changes and a guitar solo that leads back into her vocal.

got a throaty wistful kind of approach and something a bit genteel too. "Fall into this old disaster/Because it's better than spending your nights alone." More strings. I sorta wince every time she re-enters the mix. Well-written but she also rhymes "ocean" and "emotion." Something little-girl about the whole thing. I find the mix and the playing good, but somehow too much, perhaps on purpose, fulsome or even saccharine. It's the voice. Let's try "New York City." Same kind of chord changes as before. Folkie melodic moves and she says, "didn't have to pay no rent or be no good com-pa-ny." Ricky-tick all the way. But these Tin Pan Alley suspensions and seventh chords constantly coming in and some castanets or something. John Sebastian.

Doubletracked voice elsewhere on a song about hitting the bottom/hear me callin'/from the bottom of her sinful wishing well. Yikes. this is musical but the singing is too damned arch for me, fadeaway phrasing, she's trying to be cute. I thought she was supposed to be a tough girl who drank too much and smoked too many American Spirits and all that, just another folkie, but Nevers made it sound good. Holy shit, the British press are giving her good notices, and I saw her in cowboy boots in a parking lot once, and she is cute and about 23. I feel like I've eaten a bag of peanut butter M&Ms and drank two Bud Lites in the back of a Ford Explorer stuck on I-40.

ebbjunior, Friday, 20 August 2010 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

except Jon, please tell me you're not also coming out in favor of "Death Magnetic."

Good God, no. Neal can stand alone on that one.

In agreement, though, that the new Mellencamp w/ T Bone album is worth a listen. Strikes me as drawn heavily from the brand of old timey acoustic blues that they didn't really pull off on Mellencamp's last album. Suits Mellencamp well, though, and it surely belongs in this thread.

jon_oh, Friday, 20 August 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Anybody got a publicist contact for Jamey Johnson? Email me at pdfreeman at gmail dot com. Thanks...

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 20 August 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to Grandma's Roadhouse, so far I'm digging most of the writing and playing. The picture's faded, and Riley's set free! How often does that happen in a country song, or any song? Not nearly enough, and he rejoices. But he's the dominant and gut-busting voice, which will take some getting used to. He's better on the more rocking tracks--the bonus tracks are excellent and should have been on the LP, losing the included version of the title track, (that cool, down the steps melody's revealed in the outtake; no need for the master'srawkus caucus). Also could ditch "Field of Green", which distractingly recalls Crosby Stills & Nash; ditto "Funky Tar Paper Shack", with its "Lodi" roll. Th version of "Easy People" 's recurring suggestion of "The Weight" is a little distracting, but main distraction is Riley's vocal squeezebox. But at least six keepers. Really digging the rubbery sustain over tilting groove, in "Gotta Get Away", especially, and many trax have some truly pungent electric piano (a truly rare thang re electric pianos). Thanks for the tip, Cousin Ebbtide! (PS: country needed Gary more than rock, Ebb, and still does)

dow, Friday, 20 August 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

As for Gary, this following just manages to suggest how soulfully/conflictedly satisfying he can still be, but anyway:

Out Of Hand
A bar-stool freebird of yore avoids a million nights alone
Don Allred
published: January 20, 2004
Details: Gary Stewart Live At Billy Bob's Texas (Smith Music Group)
(The following paragraph was written for a country music poll ballot in December, right before I glanced up from my laptop, and saw the wordcrawl beneath Larry King: "Singer Gary Stewart has just been found dead in his Florida home." [Wife died, and he shot himself in the neck, a fairly slow way to go.])
On Live at Billy Bob's Texas, Gary Stewart is but a ghost of himself. Now fitting the "quiet ones you gotta watch" barkeep's pro-file, this free(dom'sjustanotherword)bird of yore (once hyped as the "Springsteen of country," when he and the new Boss were go-cart Mozarts versus mid-'70s murk) no longer shivers and wails, but leaves dusty fingerprints all over gleaming, surging honky-tonkcore, the Lost City of his Greatest (mostly shouldabeen) Hits. The band's eager, but also well disciplined, and totally unannotated, like ghost riders in the sky.
(Later): Yeah, another dead guy. Once upon a time, he was Dr. Fun and Mr. Doom (and self-awareness, and headlonging), simultaneously. Gary still sounds like an impossibly corny, truly inspired evangelist, on Out of Hand/Your Place or Mine, his two best LPs on one CD. Songs flash by like whole lives, but really they're just his moments, ticking away.
Live cuts like "An Empty Glass (That's the Way the Day Ends)" turn the tides down like blankets, till I'm bathed in the sweetest taboo (of self-pity). Tiring, soothing. I just stare through his stare, on the rocks, as he imagines/avoids/follows her stare. "Maybe you feel cheated, for having married so young," he mutters to himself and his significant other, while shifting on his bar stool, in the still-rousing "Ten Years of This." ("A million nights alone!") So: Mebbe getting married is cheating? No! Not always!
The Live CD is labeled with Gary's chipmunky, half-quizzical half-smirk. ("Crazy world, haint it.") Vividly painted. Like one of those commemorative plates advertised on late-night basic cable. I try to put it away, but then a-l-l-l his damned drinkin'/cheatin' songs start swirling through their rounds again. Scores unsettle themselves, in Gary's man-made afterlife. (Reminding 25-years-teetotaling meeee: For the first time in eight years, I gotta find another job, and now Bush wants Mars!) Art sucks.

dow, Friday, 20 August 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Friday's dose of Nugent. He never sleeps and it's what you've come to expect.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/08/20/droolin-pukin-dyin/

Gorge, Friday, 20 August 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Obituary of Kenny Edwards in today's LA Times, very well done:

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-kenny-edwards-20100820,0,5948959.story

Gorge, Friday, 20 August 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Great on Stewart, Don. I like Stewart's early stuff--"Big Bertha, the Snuff Queen" and "Caffein, Benzedrine" and those cuts, which are...more country than some of his later material. The voice got more out-of-control after the late '70s. He was certainly a better Jerry Lee than Jason D. Williams, whose new Todd Snider-produced record is just too close to one of those Orion/Elvis Sun ripoffs for my taste, altho I am amused by the way Jason D. changes the words to "Drinkin' Wine, Spo-Dee-o-Dee" and I also am quite intrigued by one called something like "If You Ever Saw a Baby with Its Pud," which is sorta the nutso of the retro-lovers' dream I guess.

Listened to the new Marshall Chapman record. Surprised at how good it is. Easy on the ears and quite cannily sung given her vocal limitations, even a nice western-swing Cindy Walker cover and several songs about going to Mexico. Not bad at all and the production really fits what she's after, so I'm impressed.

ebbjunior, Friday, 20 August 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

My ears don't tell me when a record's been compressed, though I suppose if I had training I could figure it out (e.g., not a lot of quiet spots). But if modern recorded music is awash in compression, I must be able to handle it, since I like a lot of modern music. Xgau complained about the "compressed-to-oppress production regimen" on Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway, an album whose sound I have zero problems with. Supposedly, Iggy's production botch on the late '90s remix of Raw Power is all compressed and scrunched-up into an oppressive loudness, but my problem with the album is that Iggy took the bounce and flow out of the bass etc., killed the rhythm, and (in my ignorance) I assume the problem is in what he did with the eq, trying to punch up every instrument separately. That's just a guess. (Xgau on the other hand was fine with that remix.) My problem with Revolution, on the tracks that disappoint me, is the songwriting. Of course, the compression may influence my ears, may make me like the music less than I would had the track not been compressed. Or may make me like the music more than if it had not been compressed. I wouldn't know. I sure hope compression isn't mandatory these days, but I don't have a clue when or if it's a drawback or advantage.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

that jace everett's pretty nice. wonder what the last big rockabilly album to make noise on the country charts was. got a friend that's been getting some momentum on the east coast with the rockabilly thing but it seems like a limited market... a lot of small, blue collar towns in WVA, MD, and PA.

Moreno, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Holy moly, just listened to the stream of Mellen's new album, not nec expecting that much,but past the first couple tracks, things got amazing pretty quickly. Track 3 def conjures with the fiddle, which I just realized may not be on many other tracks, but by the same token, it really is the overall vibe, as advertised--plus the songwriting. "A Graceful Fall", despite its fancy title, is a genuwine honky tonk classic; could def see it on Merle's next set, with any luck. And "No One Cares For Me At All" ("If I had to guess/It's cawse I'm spotty at best") totally gets that side of Hank, and his studies of Jimmie and Woody have paid off as well. "Love At First Sight" could be the pappy of Paisley's excellent "Me Neither", albeit with a twist in the last line; ditto the parting spark of "Easter Eve", to say the least. And Coug Age catchiness isn't off the map either (reminds me that, just as we might not know or care about musical differences between 1830s and 18880s, many now living are likewise 1930s & 1980s, or soon enough will be--and indeed, long as it works) Oh yeah, here's the stream, though you might have to turn it up:
http://www.spinner.com/new-release#/8

dow, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Crap, should a plural http://www.spinner.com/new-releases#/8

dow, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

My problem with Revolution, on the tracks that disappoint me, is the songwriting. Of course, the compression may influence my ears, may make me like the music less than I would had the track not been compressed. Or may make me like the music more than if it had not been compressed. I wouldn't know. I sure hope compression isn't mandatory these days, but I don't have a clue when or if it's a drawback or advantage.

Yeah, I'd been thinking the same thing. The difference between the tracks on that album that I like and the ones I don't like doesn't seem to be production, and I haven't noticed a major "loudness" difference between the tracks I like on Revolution and the ones I like on the first two albums (which I much prefer, for other reasons.) Also don't hear where everything-loud-at-once does damage to the Lee Brice album; again, there are songs I love and songs I don't, and it's not like the ones I love are less "loud" (if anything, the opposite, though that's more the nature of performances than production.) By the way, unlike Frank and George, I can't swear I prefer the more overwhelmingly rocking live Brice tracks linked above from youtube to the versions on the album, if only because, through lousy laptop speakers, those live tracks are so much less pleasant for me to hear. I get how there's more going on with the band in them, but still wouldn't say I'd rather listen to them than studio versions, which tend to rock tough already to my ears.

Singles Jukers on Brad Paisley's "Water":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2674

Hope I got the gist of George's Paisley complaints more or less right. (Maybe should have tossed in something about how so many rural Southern areas still lack broadband, now that I think of it. None of which has much to do with this particular song, either way.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 August 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Our most rural AL counties just got some new grants sepa for that, but we'll see what the new Congress has to say. Xhux, say goodbye to bad computer speakers! Get like Maxell headphones, the gray ones with black foam, that cover your whole ear, getum at the the drug store. Or Sony or Koss, long as they cost like $17-20 or so, that's enough, they helped me so much! (not a paid endorsement).

dow, Sunday, 22 August 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

cover your whole ear

You lost me there, Don. I've never met a headphone or earbud that I've liked, at least at home. (Did use them when I used to DJ, though.) Anyway, I'm sure there are other options to solve my bad computer sound quality problems, but I'm cheap, lazy, and lacking anything like an audiophile gene. And even beyond all that, "hearing" what's going on underneath all the crowd and other noise in live youtube clips (sometimes even live albums, if they're real ones) at least as often as not strikes me as theoretical, at best.

that jace everett's pretty nice. wonder what the last big rockabilly album to make noise on the country charts was

Looks like Joe Ely never got higher than #57 (Live At Liberty Lunch, 1990); weird, because I'd been under the impression that Honky Tonk Masquerade was an actual hit. That one didn't chart at all; neither did his more rockabilly Musta Notta Gotta Lotta a couple years later. Do any Gary Stewart albums count? (Everett's albums, the new one inclued, don't seem to have charted in the U.S., country or otherwise, either, though his 2005 single "That's The Kind Of Love I'm In" got to #51 country. Anybody heard his second one, Old New Borrowed Blues, from 2008? I need to track that down.) Anyway, maybe there's somebody else obvious were not thinking of. Guys like Dwight Yoakam and Gary Allan probably have had at least traces of rockabilly on their records, right? And Juice Newton had a #14 country single with her cover of Dave Edmunds's "Queen Of Hearts" in 1981, so at least there's that.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 August 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Hope I got the gist of George's Paisley complaints more or less right

Yep. Clueless upper class delight at consumer electronics and the services society, just as Wall Street was wrecking the world economy. All the shit Brad likes so much is the stuff made by slave labor and the stuff that's not, like the idiot robot or the chrome spring leg, is either a toy for rich people or
something for people who would be better off not having had to take advantage of the "technology" at all. Get your leg blown off by an IED that costs 50 cents to make. Now you can have a chrome spring replacement, what, thousands of bucks? That's real progress.

Part of it stems from reading an interview with him from about a year and a half ago wherein he compared himself to Mark Twain, in terms of writing. Which besides being laughable is just plain delusional.

I have a couple select screen shots from his video to make the point, just haven't posted them with appropriate captioning yet. The music's tone is perfect -- he's worked on copping the big jangle for the last couple years and he has it nailed. I still like Time Well Wasted[i] and about a third of [i]Fifth Gear.

In terms of compression tricks, I can always tell because the cd sends me for the volume knob. Anecdotally, it seems less oppressive than it did a few years ago but I'm also buying a lot less of the things you'd find it on.

I've used headphones for years. Settled on an audiophase pair and a backup by sony. I intensely dislike listening to music on the computer and they're the only thing that saves the experience.

Gorge, Monday, 23 August 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Billy Swan=rockabilly. "I Can Help."

ebbjunior, Monday, 23 August 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

posted over at Singles Jukebox on "Water," which is a good Paisley song.
you can read it over there, but I will add that Paisley in general seems troubled in some very strange way by his strenuous efforts to keep himself normalized, I guess is how I'd put it. "Water" is definitely a stages-of-life song and it works as such, and I think the audience recognizes it as such, as they do all his music. And you know, there is some kind of genius in his songwriting--he has the knack for inflecting his structures in a way that connects emotionally and works with the lyrics, just like the Go-Betweens or someone. The guitar solos are cool, but basically all those notes are not necessary, it's like he's so careful to be one way with his actual songwriting he feels the need to show off when he picks. Which is fine, Jerry Reed did the same thing, and he's certainly a deeper artist than Jerry Reed. But I get no sense of gravity or gravitas or any but the most manageable stresses and traumas from Paisley. Not the sort of thing I return to, sounds good when it's on but when it's over it's over.

ebbjunior, Monday, 23 August 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Swift Boat: the scuttlebutt here in town for a while, which may not be true, but the people who've said this to me are credible, is that Swift has never written her own stuff without help, or maybe not at all. Has had the guidance of a well-known songwriter whose daughter is a young alt-country nymphet. Probably untrue, but interesting.

If by "guidance of a well-known songwriter whose daughter is a young alt-country nymphet" you mean Liz Rose, mother of Caitlin, that's hardly news, or a big deal, since Rose is all over the writers credits on Taylor Swift songs (cowriter of seven songs on album one, four on album two plus two more among the bonus tracks, many of these among my favorites). There's no reason Taylor shouldn't work with collaborators: Lennon worked with a collaborator, Jagger worked with a collaborator, George Gershwin worked with a collaborator, Johnny Mercer worked with collaborators. As for the possibility of Rose doing all of the writing and Taylor none, that doesn't seem remotely plausible, since it would make no sense for Rose to be listed as a co-writer on "Tim McGraw" and "You Belong With Me" but not on "Should've Said No" or "You're Not Sorry" if Rose is writing everything. Unless Liz writes all their collaborations without Taylor's input and some other, mystery ghostwriter is writing the tracks credited to Taylor alone. But this would mean that Rose is lying through her teeth (e.g. here) when she describes what it's like to write songs with Taylor, and that Nathan Chapman is lying through his teeth when he talks about the advantage of working with Taylor. ("She just shows up with unbelievable songs that she wrote, and then we just produce the songs. As a producer I'm not having to go out and look all over Music Row for a hit. She brings them in." Chapman met Taylor through Liz Rose, had worked with Rose previously on demos so worked with Taylor and Rose on their demos, says that it was Taylor who then pushed to have him get to produce actual final recordings, three on the first album, made him co-producer with Taylor on all of the second album and reportedly all of the third). If you don't mean Liz Rose, then your story makes even less sense.

Probably untrue, but interesting.

Well, it's interesting in the sense that it tells us about our deep social beliefs and prejudices, i.e., that middle-class suburbia and middle-class suburban white girls in particular can't be the source of real music unless they become bohemians/freaks and draw on the music of poor blacks and whites or the wild avant garde. The prejudice is strong because, among other things, the South of poor blacks and whites really was the wellspring for a disproportionately large amount of our great music,* and also because suburbia is perpetually trying to get out of its own skin, define itself as fake. But this particular claim about Taylor - this manifestation of the prejudice - is just ugly: like saying that Taylor and her ilk can't possibly be a creative source of real music, so let's invent reasons to discount her and erase her.

Edd, you really shouldn't be posting stuff like this, even if you're expressing skepticism; or anyway, since it is interesting, you shouldn't be posting it and claiming credibility for it unless you really have corroboration, really know that it's true. We're just a little message board, not the New York Times, but that still doesn't give us the right to blacken people's reputations.

Btw, last December I wrote down my top fifteen Taylor Swift songs, so as to prove definitively that "Fifteen" was her fifteenth best. Of the top five, two were by Swift & Rose, two were by Swift alone, and one was by Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, and Jeff Bass. I thought the two by Swift & Rose ("Tim McGraw" and "Come In With The Rain") had more poetic and narrative complexity than the two by Swift alone ("Should've Said No" and "You're Not Sorry"), which is hardly surprising (though for all I know those lyrics were all by Taylor, with Rose concentrating on the music).

The majority of Fearless was Taylor writing solo, and supposedly all of the new one is. Lots of continued discussion on the Jukebox thread about how well the lyrics to "Mine" work/don't work. I decided that "I was a flight risk - afraid of fallin'" (third line of the first verse) is brilliant (speaking of poetic complexity), but the subsequent lyrics don't live up to it, at least not yet, for me.

*Though urban songwriting professionals was also a part of the fields and backwoods musical story, according to Bill Malone's Country Music USA.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 23 August 2010 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link

...urban songwriting professionals were also part of the fields and backwoods musical story...

I suppose suburban middle-class white girls can also be considered legit if they go postpunk and alt too (though iirc there was a while when people were questioning whether Courtney Love really wrote her own songs).

I don't understand the phrase "hypothetical bar out-tartings" in Mallory's blurb for "Only Prettier," but I don't think the blurb was ugly; I took it to mean that people in cities aren't spending time thinking about whether people from the country want to walk in and pick fights with them. Not sure how the comment was relevant, though, since Miranda wasn't calling out people in the city, and anyway was writing the song for people who identify with her, not for the "you" the song was supposedly addressing.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 23 August 2010 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Well, Swan's "I Can Help" was way back in 1974, so that was a while ago. (Did go #1 country as well as pop, though, apparently.) I put it on a playlist of "secret rockabilly of the '70s and '80s" I made for Rhapsody last year (though there are many other tracks I'd include if I were to get a do-over on that one):

http://www.rhapsody.com/playlistcentral/playlistdetail?playlistId=ply.28955046

Don't see many counry hits on that list, though Eddie Rabbit and Mel McDaniel (covering Springsteen) and Gary Stewart probably were. Anybody know how rockabilly McDaniel's whole albums were? (And what about Billy Crash Craddock?) Actually though, I wouldn't be surprised if the last high-charting rockabilly LP on the country chart, now that I think of it, was some kind of Jerry Lee comeback -- or a post-humous Elvis record, if that counts.

xhuxk, Monday, 23 August 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Frank, I certainly see your problem with the comment on Swift, and right, it's no news that she's collaborated. Don't think that blackens her reputation, though, and I guess I don't read as much sociology into someone writing songs as you do, altho sure, the credibility issue would perhaps be less were Swift a different, edgier person. What the comments I've heard here may reflect, though, is a skepticism and a dismissal of what Swift does in the context of country music. Far be it from me to erase her or to discount her; her music is what it is, she's expressing herself quite well and I'm glad she's raised Nashville's profile and all. Sorry if you were offended.

ebbjunior, Monday, 23 August 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, Frank, I understand what you're saying about the wellsprings of songwriting inspiration and suburbia, all perfectly valid points. I don't expect young women such as Taylor to be going there for their inspiration, except that there is a whole generation of young white women and men who are going back to old-time blues, gospel and country for their entire musical vocabulary. That Swift is an original I have no doubt, either. I would say that, in Nashville, there are a lot of people way more concerned about Swift being passed off as "country music" than maybe they should be, I mean I don't think it is, and don't care. But for what it's worth that's what my little comment was about--the concern with authenticity, the belief (and I am well aware of with whom Swift has collaborated and that she has collaborated) that it all just couldn't come from this one person, that her success ought to be dismissed in this way. Suburbia shedding its skin and all that, sure, and boho avant-garde vs. middle class, also sure, but I don't think these oppositions are behind any comments on Swift and her sources that occur in Nashville. I mean all songwriters collaborate here.

ebbjunior, Monday, 23 August 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

her success ought to be dismissed in this way

Sounds like basic sour grapes, to me.

Btw, it also occurs to me that the last rockabilly song to be a huge pop hit (#10 in the Hot 100, didn't chart country though she has otherwise) would almost definitely have been Miley Cyrus's "See You Again," just a couple years ago.

xhuxk, Monday, 23 August 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, fine if she gets help with the songwriting, too band indie rock auteurs don't do more of this; would also be cool (based on my own live listening experience, and esp those of friends who paid hard-earned big bucks for tickets) if she were more dependable in concert; should go the full Elvis route and have a high note person, low note person and hell mid-range person among her backup singers. She was really good with Def Lep on "Crossroads", however that may have been recorded and/or fixed in the mix (no dis; if artists approve pix, why not audio). Sorry of that's crucifying the poor middle class suburban while girl.

dow, Monday, 23 August 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

too "bad", sorry "if"

dow, Monday, 23 August 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Taylor's success has engendered the usual sniping here, and if I don't especially think she's the greatest artist to go down the pike and don't think it has much to do with country music (beyond marketing), I certainly don't think the it-ain't-country line gets at why she's either good or bad. Glad to see it all spurred Frank to his usual eloquence. Posted this on her new single over at SJ, btw:

Whether or not it’s completely premeditated–and I hear some of the relatively subtle vocal turns as little things she or her producer or someone worked out for her, to alleviate her imprecise pitch sense and flat phrasing–this has some good qualities. The stop-start aspect was remarked upon above; the pauses make me listen, and I think she handles the time element of the song pretty well. The big power chords toward the end are nice too. “A careless man’s careful daughter,” though, yeech, that’s not exactly brilliant in my book. In general, she sounds either terrified or trying to act scared, I’m not sure. Don’t hear anything particularly distinctive in the music itself, it’s functional and that’s about it, but it’s a good song. I’d be pleased to like it, and Swift, more, because I hear something in there that’s almost like real talent. But my objection to this would be not that it’s too careful but that it just isn’t detailed enough, even given those moments where she illustrates she could learn to sing more effectively. Functional (objectively pretty terrible) pop singing that’s a kind of genius, absolutely–how on earth do you even critique it? The obvious points about her archetypal quality and all that don’t get it. Baffling.

ebbjunior, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I think her singing is absolutely brilliant, but it's one of those "Kids, don't try this at home" things. It'd be like people trying to imitate Neil Young: it seems like anyone can do it; turns out very few can.

My guess is that she's just got a really good ear for, e.g., when to go frail and when not. I'm sure I could sit down and analyze it and learn a lot. But I don't think that the analysis would really explain it - just as when I look at my own writing, I can see that assonance strengthened one sentence and ruined another, and that I'm overusing a particular phrase, and so forth. But I wouldn't be able to tell you why it was overuse in this instance but not that, or why assonance worked here but not there, etc. (or when I can get away with "etc." and with an antecedent-free "it"). Writing well isn't a deep mystery, but it's not altogether explicable either; same with singing.

As for Taylor's sense of pitch - Himes said in his country poll writeup that he's heard her being pitch-perfect, and my livejournal friend Cis heard her right on-pitch in London. But obviously this is something you can't rely on. Maybe she uses pitch correction in the studio, maybe she does multiple takes, maybe she's just got a congenial emotional and acoustic environment.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't know how much Taylor sat down and planned the little things she does in "Mine." I do find the attention to detail pretty interesting. What she doesn't know or doesn't want to know about singing she makes up for with smarts, sure. It's a real American voice. When I listen to someone who's about as young as Swift, like Sarah Jarosz (a bluegrass-indie sorta person), and hear how annoying that kind of voice can be, I realize what a free-fall and frightening world Swift must live in, without the crutch of Received Wisdom. That's pop. The wobbles and drop-outs in Swift's voice do add up to something she's manipulating emotionally, I think.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure there's a lot of great pop and country where the singer has almost no say as to either the material or the arrangement. Obv. when the singer also writes songs and plays an instrument, and therefore knows something about arranging as well, the label may well want to take advantage of these talents, assuming the talents go in the direction that sales will go. And then there're the singers who demand control and for better or worse get the power to do what they want, either through sales clout or an ally in the biz.

But there are also situations where the artists know the idiom and the audience far better than does anyone in the biz. This happened in Britain in the early Sixties. It would've been commercial suicide not to have allowed the bands to generate material.*

The legacy of the Sixties pulls two ways: on the one hand, the biz became full of people who bought into the ideology that the performers are artists and therefore should be the creators, on the other, you get session men, songwriters, and execs who do know the idiom and attitudes and can generate material themselves.

I'm curious, especially for those of you who haven't read it before, what you'd think of this LVW piece I wrote several years ago. The model I detailed for mid '00s teenpop - teen singer-songwriter working with music biz veterans in their thirties - fits Taylor perfectly, except Liz Rose is older than that (she's almost my age). My thesis is that one reason this model worked is that the teens could bring material that the adults wouldn't think to.

The teens are cool, but they burn out

(Haven't done a good job of keeping up with Shanks, whom I called the decade's best melodist; I've been pretty iffy on his country stuff, and on his recent tracks with Miley. Need to know the material better, though. Nathan Chapman cites Shanks as one of his producer heroes (others are Mark Wright, Daniel Lanois, and Buddy Miller). I've summarized a bit of that Chapman interview here: Nathan Chapman.)

Taylor's timing was lucky: she was creating her first album right when High School Musical came along and siphoned the younger teenpop listeners over to Disney, leaving the teen confessional shelf mostly empty. And Taylor waltzed in and filled the gap.

*A partial exception here is the Animals, who did sometimes use biz songwriters, but those songwriters were Americans experienced in the idiom the Animals were playing (Goffin & King, Mann & Weil, Atkins & D'Errico).

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

(It's possible that Taylor's got strong models that I don't know or I'm not thinking of. Maybe Neil Young, even. It's mostly mediocre indie boys whose names I've forgotten who try to exploit the high nasal waver.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, though here's an exception (from another show preview)
Rascal Flatts with Kellie Pickler
Man band Rascal Flatts faithfully replenish their turf, every time Gary LeVox's high, lonesome tenor crosses just over the rainbow to sensitive pop atmospheres, while remaining unmistakably (yet courteously)country. If that doesn't float your boat, consider Kellie Pickler. While convincingly portraying a dizzy blonde, she cannily rose from rough origins via cogent association with American Idol and Taylor Swift. Her sweetly well-earned word to us all: "Get on with your life."
That's also a line from her song, but reached the word limit and fans will know.

dow, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Of course Edd's right about details, and in some ways it's good that some/most ambitious artists have to rely more on these, not having the temptation of over-reliance on a trademark sonic ambience, as sometimes happened to Elvis,Sinatra,Willie,Emmylou, Dolly might yet happen to Toby Keith and LeeAnn Rimes. But over-reliance can result in perceived over-exposure, so Willie, Dolly and Emmylou are at least trying to stay focused on sufficient detail. Now to read Frank's linked piece.

dow, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, good points, I guess Swift might be the teen star who's benefiting most by inter-generational collaboration at this point. Usually what I'm aware of is the older guy's production, in response, so the Black Keys' Dan Auerbach brings what I called a "charged nocturnal atmosphere" to Jessica Lea Mayfield's ruminations, while leaving them sufficiently roomy. Though she's not really pop, in the mainstream or even cross-over indie sense, though may well share a peer audience sector with Swift. And I guess neither is punky tonk gurl Lydia Loveless, in this context. Could see some (rougher-edged members) of Pink's confessional rock segment digging all of the above, mind you. But 60s examples might also include Brill Building pros (self-avowedly competing with each other while) writing in response to the *sound* of Shangri-Las etc, ditto Spector's response as producer and sometimes co-writer. And West Coast session kings playing on most of the Byrds first album, so appropriately.And hey, just thought of this: ever-budding Bobby Dylan with all those great, mostly older session guys too. (Plus early guidance of John Hammond and Tom Wilson)(and xgau would prob emph Fred Rose's sub rosa songwriting workshops with Hank Williams)

dow, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Um, well, B.D. was mebbe still a teen when Hammond brought him aboard; you weren't talking teens-only, what with citing Stones, etc.

dow, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

My reviewlet of the new Little Big Town album (not quite a challenge to the Hold Steady as the most disappointing album of the year -- at least LBT's LP has a great single on it -- but not too far off, either):

http://www.rhapsody.com/little-big-town/the-reason-why-2#albumreview

SJers consider the current Sugarland hit:

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2682

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

More Jukebox singles roundups. I may have overrated the first two; I still haven't heard the third one.

Kenny Chesney

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2694

John Rich

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2690

Darius Rucker

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2691

xhuxk, Friday, 27 August 2010 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

the reggae in the Sugarland single was interesting and the vocoder (?) breakdown toward the end, ditto. seems notable that they need to take up their version of island patois in order to express the clingy sentiments of the song. and the video is ridiculous indeed, altho JN does look pretty good in the blue tights.

so far, the new Little Big Town sounds good to me, esp. the guitar moves (which seem almost more the point than the vocals themselves, I am distracted by the trading off in some of it)--they seem like the point of the music almost. Intricate. the slow ones are draggin' me so far, though.

ebbjunior, Friday, 27 August 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of Sugarland, Adkins' "Don't Mind If I Don't" sounds much like the first single from the
former's last album.

Gorge, Friday, 27 August 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

My Country Fleetwood Mac Contest -- Lady Antebellum vs. Little Big Town (hint: nobody wins):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/08/countrymac.html

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 August 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Heard of Paz Lenchantin through Jonathan Bogart: sort of "psych folk" or whatever they're calling that stuff; have a feeling that listening to five tracks of hers in a row might cause me to scratch the plaster off the plasterboard, but for one song ("Bloom On The Rose," fifth track down at the Black Tent Press MySpace) this could be a positive attribute - Carter Family type trad material but shifted out of whack and forced into a thick haze. Most of you will hate this.

Think you - and ultimately I - will prefer Juana Molina's "Un Día"; the sliding shifts in the music have an aggressive rather than a hazy effect. Most recent YouTube comment: "Why is this so catchy? And why do I like it? I don't even like Bjork type shit." Finally settles into a Yardbirds/Velvets-type coagulated pounding. I'm hit or miss on her other YouTube tracks; occasional and annoying jazz tendencies, or precious ephemera, which this one avoids altogether. In Argentina she'd built a career as a comedian, which has nothing to do with her music.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 28 August 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps everyone here knows but Chesney's Boys of Fall is not only a song and a nine-minute video, it's also an hour long paen to football, written and directed by Chesney. It just ran on ESPN but after twenty minutes was so ... I just left it on in the background.

The basic message was that football teaches everyone all they have to know in the game of life, over and over. Everyone says their days as a football player were the best of their lives, so if the former is trye and you never make it past college or high school football, it must be all downhill. Chesney's very
sincere and he's in it with old snaps of himself as a high school receiver and recent ones of his hs football buddies, At some point, "Hey Man, Nice Shot" was used as background music, which was a bit jarring since I was living in Pennsy when Budd Dwyer killed himself in public. Not exactly football music.

A couple people try to make the point -- Bill Curry most notably -- that football brings all the kinds of people who naturally hate each together on the team, the liberals, the rednecks, the etc. Was not my experience in the locker room where most were still unformed in their leanings, which were almost as junior league fascists. It was a nice sentiment, though. Maybe it was true in the old NFL or on Ivy League football teams.

No doubt about it, Chesney loves football. It is lots better than Hard Knocks in the Jets training camp which is only exhibitions of Rex Ryan becoming the most morbidly obese celebrity in bedsheet sportswear that everyone knows, and the Jets as a collection of really big overweight men and physical fitness freaks, all with very little native intelligence and surprising lacks in character and personal hygeine. Which is about the diametric opposite of what Chesney makes the case for.

Gorge, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, now it makes me fondly remember the movie version of Paper Lion. Which made George Plimpton the only liberal in the Joe Schmidt-coached Lions lockerroom. Alex Karras was a gambler, though.

Gorge, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Kinda made me want to go back to the LBT album although, except for "Little White Church," it didn't grab me when I skimmed it on-line.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/08/28/patriotic-class-war-song/

Gorge, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Paz has played (most often bass, but also violin and piano) and sung with A Perfect Circle, Zwol, and many in between; best album I've heard her on is the Entrance Band's s/t (sort of like an aural anime of backstreet progressives, somewhat in the historical, Glenn Beck anathema sense, though more about challenging doomsters to stop playing with shadows in the mirror and come get some clean free needles already--or something like that, if we must reduce TEB's phantosaurus sound and vision to mere sense). She's also contributed to some countryoid offerings of the Silver Jews etc. Most relevant to what Frank's describing,she also locked herself into a backstreet Louisville hotel with some very old school country sides, and recorded self-written songs, think it was an EP's-worth, after her brother died. So thanks for reminding me of that, Frank, I'll check it out. George Plimpton's daughter Martha has played a worthy corporate law adversary for The Good Wife, hope she continues to do so.

dow, Monday, 30 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

You got my hopes up for a moment there, Don! Think you meant Zwan, though, not Zwol (who I wrote about at the link below):

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

Meanwhile, I finally saw Mother Truckers Saturday night, at the Continental Club here, their return to town after a brief van tour out West. Definitely sounded more (Stones-style) hard rock than country or college rock or cowpunk live (though "Van Tour" itself qualified as the latter.) Teal (dressed kinda classic hillbilly) is a vocal powerhouse live, and I'd say her hubbie Josh Zee (in a N.W.A. T-shirt and truckers cap) held his own vocally and outdid himself guitarwise, sometimes verging on metal though not as much as the longhaired AC/DC-shirt bass guy Danny G. At any rate, they definitely know how to throw a party -- tons of energy, lots of people (including a few lesbian couples, looked like) dancing, good calls and responses, and I recogized every song except one, I think. (And that one's not on any of their three CDs, looks like.) Favorites were probably "Dynamite" from the second album and "Alien Girl" from the new one; i.e., the most glam-rock ones. Also, as far as I could tell, there were zero college kids in the crowd; possibly even nobody under 30, and I'm fairly positive I wasn't the oldest person there. Just townies, I guess, or people who came here for school years ago then never left. Bottled beer overpriced, but what the heck, still glad I forced myself to go out for once.

xhuxk, Monday, 30 August 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Via email from a publicist; any takers?

Was just having a conversation with a friend and the Billboard Top 10 debut of John Mellencamp's No Better Than This album came up. Mentioned that it's John's tenth Top 10 album and that it's offered only in mono which begged the question: "What was the last mono-only album that debuted in Billboard's Top 10?" We're thinking it must have been over 40 years ago as albums were offered in both stereo and mono from the late 1950s onward. Any suggestions? I'd love to make this a contest but since I don't know the actual answer, I'm not sure I'm in a position to declare a winner. Would love to hear your thoughts which I'd share with all the recipients of this inquiry.

Best, Bob Merlis

Also just got word from a different publicist that "I'm All About It," which I talk about above, the fastest and horniest song on my advance of Randy Houser's new album, will be left off the final version "at the request of Mr. Houser", since he "felt that particular track was not representative of him as an artist." (Not sure whether I mind or not; tbh, its novelty was starting to wear off already.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

CMA nominations are out. Miranda Lambert sets a record for the most nominations by a female artist in a single year. Which is a pleasant surprise, unless you're one of the Carrie Underwood fans who have taken to every message board and blog they can find to decry the grave injustice that is Underwood's omission from the Entertainer of the Year short-list.

Some turnover in couple of the major categories, but there's not a whole lot to get worked up about one way or the other. No Laura Bell Bundy anywhere on the ballot, despite the high-profile ACM performance a couple of months back.

The new Marty Stuart is awfully good for the trad-country stumping thing that it is, and Connie Smith sings with him a couple of times, which is always welcome. Also liking the new album by Amanda Shaw, a 19 year-old fiddler from Louisiana, who incorporates a healthy dollop of cajun music and some traditional blues into her pop-country, and she has a husky but not quite ripe alto that reminds me, in a good way, of Alecia Elliott. Have only given cursory listens to the new SteelDrivers and Justin Townes Earle, but liked both pretty well on the first pass, the former moreso than the latter.

jon_oh, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

This is an interesting news link on the CMA nominations at a music writer's blog, but more for the amount of malicious spam comment (page down, you'll see it):

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/ourcountry/51632/miranda-lambert-scoops-up-a-record-nine-cma-noms/

(Shakes head)

Gorge, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, we get bombarded with exactly the same kind of spam at the Rhapsody blog; it just doesn't make it onto the site. Until a month or two ago they were having us sort one by one through the emailed comments, but at some point they decided that meant wasting way too much time, since we'd eventually only wind up approving, say, one out of every 100. So now I just guess every comment just goes into the spam trash can -- I don't even see them in my inbox anymore.

Btw, I wasn't aware that "Rain On A Tin Roof" on the new Little Big Town album was a cover of a song on the first Julie Roberts album from six years ago until I read Caramanica's Times review a couple days ago. I probably still have my advance of that Roberts album in my storage closet somewhere (liked two songs pretty well, as I recall), but I never really got into it as a whole.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I mentioned "Rain on a Tin Roof" in my LBT review, as well. They do a fine enough job with the song, but I probably prefer Roberts' version of it. Her second album was better, but there was some real substance to her debut, as well. "Break Down Here" was the top 20 single, but "Wake Up Older" is the standout cut. She doesn't have much of a range to her voice, but she makes up for it with a mindful sense of phrasing and with solid song choices. I'm a fan, but I can't imagine she'll get a shot at a third major label record after Men & Mascara bricked.

jon_oh, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Her second album sounded even more marginal to my ears, iirc. (Though the title track seemed okay, and I'm pretty sure the two songs you named from the debut were the ones that stood out for me at the time.)

Re-listening to Ray Wylie Hubbard's early 2010 album right now, for the first time in months. It's better than I'd remembered, especially if you've got a taste for hard dark mean repetitive deeper-and-deeper-into-the-gravel blues drones (which I do, apparently).

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, we get bombarded with exactly the same kind of spam at the Rhapsody blog; it just doesn't make it onto the site.

Baffling, since my domain's anti-spam mechanism is really good at stripping it all out so I -don't- have to look at it.

Gorge, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

So how come nobody ever told me what a great singer Narvel Felts was? Or did somebody, and I wasn't listening? Halfway through his self-titled LP from 1975 which I bought for 50 cents (went #4 country, with "Reconsider Me," "Blue Darlin," and "Funny How Time Slips Away" all hitting), and I'm already kind of blown away. Guess I'd put him in the fancy-pants tradition of guys like Roy Orbison, Freddie Fender, Gene Pitney -- is that way off? -- with almost pop-operatically flamboyant falsetto parts. Maybe a Mexican influence, too, deep down. And a soul one, given that it looks like he hit with "Lonely Teardrops" (presumably a cover of the Jackie Wilson song) a year later. (Okay, just checked Xgau, who B+'s the LP -- "Wotta voice," he says. Also mentions Orbison, and calls him "an r&b singer on the country side of the fence.") Probably some influence of Charlie Rich -- who could also do fancy Latinish stuff -- in there too.

Actually been liking an album by a British folk-rock singer named Johnny Flynn -- coming out on Thirty Tigers in November -- while it's played in the background this week. Didn't expect to like it, either. Haven't paid attention to the lyrics (which may well stink) yet. But the music somehow manages to be minor-key pretty and have rhythmic drive at the same time. Mostly ballads. His MySpace:

http://www.myspace.com/johnnyflynn

And speaking of folk, new album by Heart is mostly if not all acoustic, and also pretty good, and by now they have a connection to country thanks to people like Carrie Underwood and, uh, Sarah Palin or whoever. Here's what I wrote about it for Rhapsody:

http://www.rhapsody.com/heart/red-velvet-car#albumreview

Also heard the new Those Darlins single (7-inch vinyl 45!), "Nightjogger," today, and was very disappointed to find out that they now seem to be trying to sound like Sleater-Kinney-type alt-rock instead of cowpunk. Not sure if that's a one-time deal or not; if not, too bad, because though their cowpunk schtick had limitations, it made them less generic. So I'm wondering if Edd knows what's up.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 September 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Have been watching the CMA rock thing on network teevee. Lots of mediocre blues hard rock, specifically Carrie Underwood as the shouter in short hot short shorts and heroically sexy poses. Hotcha.

But that stuff wears out fast, really, if you aren't doing a sixpack.

Way too much Kid Rock. Had no idea he was so much into being the poor man's Rockets.

No idea why anyone likes Uncle Kracker. Sweaty vaseline-coated obesity in a worn RUN-DMC T with unjustified high self-esteem as a mass psychological disorder, I guess. Same for the guy who sings "Unstoppable." Hnad-wringing sincerity and very clean baggy jeans only go so far.

Best performance by far: Miranda Lambert with "Even Prettier." This sounds harsh but I like the
Ray Nitschke as drag queen look and the c&w attack. Plus her band doesn't have the usual six guitarists they put on stage to play what one or two could do.

Zac Brown -- hippie reggae bookended by twenty seconds of hard southern rock jamming to make you think it might be good before it goes bad.

Morgan in a club with Lambert and the really hairy singer/songwriter, whatever his name is. Over yet?

Now let's all order up another beer while Billy Currington does something rote on that's how country boys roll.

Gorge, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Assume you mean the CMT Awards not CMAs (I make the same mistake somewhere above I think -- easy to do), and actually, Kid Rock being a Detroit boy may just be almost old enough to remember who the Rockets were. Pretty sure the "really hairy singer/songwriter" would be Jamey Johnson; I thought "Macon" was okay on that show, I think, but I like it better on the album, and can understand why people might think it goes on too long in either format. Totally drawing a blank on "Unstoppable" -- oh wait, Google says Rascal Flatts? No wonder. I actually had fun watching that show in total though (in a hotel room in San Francisco), but yeah, I had a sixpack (at least) from the bodega down the block to help.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

(Also, bad pizza, iirc. And not saying I put away six-plus beers in the duration of the show; probably more like three. But the rest were there, just in case.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I got the Jerrod Niemann album a few days ago. I'm glad there's better songs than "Lover Lover" ("Bakersfield," "I Hope You Get What You Deserve"). I haven't heard the Funkadelic stylings that edd noted a few weeks ago.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

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hey, Gucci Mania, it's track 11 on the Jerrod record. Lunchmeataphobia guitar line, and the vocal thing at the first is George Clinton-like. Who says a country record can't...you get the drift.

decided I liked the Little Big Town record. the vocals are really country, lots of slurs and sliding. and I think it's tolerably Fleetwood Mac-esque. don't get much personality out of the singing, though, the blocks of harmonies don't sound that good to my ears, are are just blocks of sound in the larger picture. but state-of-the-art country record, some very deft little arrangements and guitar sounds and all that.

caught Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver the other night. man, they have their own style, with all sorts of weird fucked-with licks and runs and commentary going on. quick on its feet, rooted but unsentimental. the Dobro player is avant-garde and so is the banjo player. the song-form stuff they did all had something different in it--it was like watching a superior jazz group do their thing, but you got pleasure from the surface of the performance but if you listened hard they were doing all sorts of really outrageous and subtle things as they made transitions. and could play real fast on Bill Monroe songs or real sneaky on covers of Porter and Buck. Doyle plays some ferocious mandolin, no bullshitting around, and each soloist did something unexpected and wholly within the moment nearly every time. in short, real style, finesse and attack and they can sing, too. probably the best bluegrass group I've ever seen by about ten miles--could've listened to them all night.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

>>Assume you mean the CMT Awards not CMAs

Yep.

>>(sure the "really hairy singer/songwriter" would be Jamey Johnson; I thought "Macon" was okay on that

It was.

>>Totally drawing a blank on "Unstoppable" -- oh wait, Google says Rascal Flatts? No wonder.

Yep, again. Was making joke, small one. I like the part where RF get to answer insipid questions printed white cards. I guess wholesomeness and piety comprise most of their appeal. Which would be why I don't like them.

>>I actually had fun watching that show in total though (in a hotel room in San Francisco), but yeah, I had >>a sixpack (at least) from the bodega down the block to help.

I had some beers, too. It didn't help as much I thought it might. If I can be so nosy, why in SF?

Gorge, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I was just there for some Rhapsody brainstorming session the week that show first aired. They flew all the freelancers in, then flew us out two days later. Basically, I checked into the hotel room and turned CMT on, since I don't have cable at home.

Edd, just out of curiosity, what did you think of last two Little Big Town records? (Which I can see how somebody might hear as less "country" per se', but as far as I can tell were just way, way better. Guess I'm not somebody who judges country records by how "country" they sound, though -- just like I don't usually judge metal records by how metal they sound, and so on.) (Actually, my favorite parts of that Jerrod Neimann record might well be some of the less country parts, come to think of it; definitely wouldn't have pegged the two songs that Alfred named as the standouts. Which isn't to say I dislike them.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Gorge, you were right the first time: the CMA Festival was on ABC last night, and went as you described (no trouble tearing myself away). Jon-oh, I'm so far a bit disappointed in (or of, as the young folks say) the Marty, but at least a fat EP of keepers; wish he'd done more instrumentals, Ebb's comments on Lawson & Quicksilver remind me that there's some kind of sense of moving toward instrumental release in "real" country music, re Paisley's instrumental album, and what Keith Urban can do live, ditto Dierks, I'd think, at least, his press shetts once played up early jam-tending tours with Cross Canadian Ragweed, and the current bluegrass ect seems to draw on the most listenable bits of previous albums. Speaking of ebb, he turned me on to Freddie Curtis's Cuss The Wind album, never on CD, unlike Friend, source of his hit, "Don't Take Her (She's All I've Got", though that may not be the exact title yallknowwhatahmean. Here's my email re Cuss:
"Cuss The Wind" and "Oh Lord, What Are You Doing?" are like
country soul Charlie Rich, ca. "Field of Yellow Daisies", if not more
so, expansive drama taunted by placid beauty.Ditto the majestic "My
Whole World Has Ended": coulda shoulda been a hit, with a little edit
for acceptable radio time. "Sun Comes Up" like a more concise version
of Bill Withers' "Sun Coming Up in Harlen", the twist of "Gotta Go Get
Your Mama", as good a version of "Rainy Night In Georgia" as I've
heard.

dow, Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Best version of "Rainy Night In Georgia" I've heard this year, fwiw, comes courtesy of Sir Charles Jones, an Alabama-based Southern Soul singer. Some brief notes on his album, and others I've been liking (and having mixed feelings about) in that genre lately, here:

Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

xhuxk, Friday, 3 September 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Cuss is also posted here and there; a few tracks are included among many bonuses on the reissue of Friends: 20 tracks for a good bargain price at Amazon MP3, reissued on S.D.E.G. (Swamp Dogg produced both LPs). Also a couple of other Freddie comps on there. Ebb says Freddie was a WLAC DJ in Nashville, apparently retired now, if not RIP.

dow, Friday, 3 September 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I think Sir Charles Jones used to play around here. I'll check him out.

dow, Friday, 3 September 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Gorge, you were right the first time: the CMA Festival was on ABC last night, and went as you described (no trouble tearing myself away)

Huh. I hung on 'til almost the end. It really started petering out when they put Keith Urban on and
Paisley did a sped up "Another Saturday Night" as a second tune.

Gorge, Friday, 3 September 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Something to keep in mind about Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver is that the line-up of pickers in Quicksilver changes pretty frequently-- between most of their studio albums, I believe, but maybe with slightly lower turnover. It usually comes down to whether Lawson is feeling more progressive or more traditionalist at the time. But, in either case, playing in Quicksilver is considered something of a rite of passage for many of the best instrumentalists in Bluegrass. Their live shows are generally much more worthwhile to seek out than their recordings. But their progressive stuff can be really fantastic, and I tend to prefer their traditional stuff to, say, The Gibson Brothers or Dailey & Vincent

jon_oh, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I should dig up my DL&Q promos from recent years, prob incl the gospel one, I'm thinking now, having just seem a bunch of apparently mid-60s clips from a show called Barnyard Jamboree, featuring the Rambos, whose gospel melodies, harmonies and electric chording keeps going where I don't expect--I got the Kentucky origins before they were mentioned, but Kentucky kinda like the Everlys, creative initiative-wise (in this case, mebbe some Neapolitan chords come aboard now and then?)Host claims that Dottie Rambo was the first woman to play electric guitar leads on TV, and "What guitar company created the Dotte Rambo Guiar? He says he'll answer after commercial, but doesn't. However, "Dottie Rambo wrote and published over 2,500 songs." Doesn't get any major DL&Q action going in these clips, but still fairly intriguing.

dow, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, an excerpt from most/only intriguing press release received this a.m.
Hayes Carll's LABOR DAY BARBECUE He's bringing the party to Luckenbach, TX,the heart of the Hill Country!

This year he'll be performing along side a diverse line upcomprised of; Hard chargin' honky tonk hero (and co-star in the She Left Me For Jesus video) - JESSE DAYTON , Rockabilly Filly - ROSIE FLORES, Soulfulharmonistas - THE TRISHAS, Roots of Rock & Roll show with the kidsfrom Austin's SCHOOL OF ROCK, King of Hot Rod Country - The JOHN EVANS BAND,FIVE time Candadian (way North Texas) Roots Artist of the year, CORBLUND, and headlining this years bash is Austin's own Roots Rockicon, ALEJANDRO ESCOVEDO!

* * * * *
"Hayes Carll is the traveling Texas troubadour for today's X Generation.He's the snarky slacker with a heart of pure Kerouac. He's a modernstoryteller's dream, wrapped in a cloak of country-folk charm."
-TulsaWorld!

WORKIN' MANS BLUES...

Hayes is looking forward to a day off surrounded by friends,good eats and great music!

Seems like he's sittin' on top of the world these days.. He'sjust filmed a show for Austin City Limits, which will air as part of ACL's 36thseason premiering on PBS this fall and was recently featured on the 30min. season finale of the hilarious, hit animated series"Squidbillies" along side Lucinda Williams, Drive By Truckers, ToddSnider, Gillian Welch, David Rawlings, Rhett Miller and Jimmy Dale Gilmore! Keep your eyes peeled for re-runs folks!
Furthermore, he's been busy in thestudio recording ... A LOT! Not only does he have a new record in his backpocket, but Don Imus, who say's "She Left Me For Jesus" is "thegreatest country song ...ever!" asked Hayes to record "King of TheRoad" for his upcoming Imus Ranch benefit album (New West), he's gotmultiple new songs that will be featured in the upcoming Gweneth Paltrow film'Country Strong' AND a holiday single in the works for 2010. Look for Hayes new album to bereleased in early 2011, on Lost Highway!

I'd like to check out the Trishas, and speaking of Alexandro, I've been hearing an unexpectedly vigorous new track; like, where the John Cale-produced tracks tended to sound like J.C. in pop-rock mode with A.E.'s vocals substituted, this new 'un ("In Love With Love", or something like that) sounds like he's invigorated by but not too closely following Cale's geezer swagger. (And maybe Imus's too!)

dow, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha "Austin's School Of Rock" is at Northcross Shopping Center on Anderson, walking -- or at least, very short biking -- distance from our house. That's where the Walmart's going in, too -- But not a Super Walmart; gotta "keep Austin weird," doncha know.

And Luckenbach, Texas, barely even exists -- no town (population: 3, Wiki says, though that's a 2006 figure apparently) -- just basically a souvenir store and a stage or two. Cute bathroom-break stop on the way to Fredericksburg, though. (Haven't been since the year before last, during a pre-move recon visit. Have yet to see a show there.)

xhuxk, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Just in time for Labor Day, Dick Destiny imagines Brad Paisley imagining a more realistic future (click on the "here" link to hear it):

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/09/03/a-rock-n-roll-weekend/

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 September 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow! Thanks xhuxk.

Gorge, Saturday, 4 September 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Caramanica on Brooks & Dunn's farewell show, in Nashville two nights ago. (He likes them but calls my favorite song by them "banal." Which it probably is, but it's still great).

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/04/arts/music/04farewell.html

Now, to start battling Burnt Orange traffic from Austin to Houston. (I was thinking "it's a Saturday morning, taking 290 will be a breeze!" And then I remembered the Rice game.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, my Texas alum pal is coming over to watch it around noon. Complete with his Texas shirt and cap.

Gorge, Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

A roundup of recent Texas country releases I did for Rhapsody. (The Randy Rogers, Ryan Bingham, and Willie Nelson reviews are by Linda Ryan, not me; haven't posted my own reviews of the Ray Wylie Hubbard or Jason Boland albums or the Kevin Fowler single here before):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/09/texascountry.html

Also, my review of the new James Otto album:

http://www.rhapsody.com/james-otto/shake-what-god-gave-ya#albumreview

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the first Little Big Town record is the best to my ears. the second one seems a bit too derivative of those weedy CSNY harmonies. I really do like the new one as a piece of formalist pop, but basically, I wish the singing on all of them were toned down a notch or two. talked to someone about this the other day as I was waiting to catch a song or two by David Olney at the Country Music Hall of Fame--he said he'd "figured out" the way LBT's producer had stacked the harmonies and added one voice, then another, as a formula, which I guess I understand. but we agreed this was as I probably said before state-of-the-art country record-making. it's good.

I wrote up something on this year's Americana fest now happening in Nashville, for last wk's Scene. they gave out awards last night--Rosanne Cash got record of the year, the Avetts duo, the usual instrumentalists, and they gave some lifetime awards to people like Wanda Jackson. emerging artist to Hayes Carll, who made his first record, what, 7 or 8 years ago? baffling.

in general, may I say that I thought I did a good enough overview of Americana, talked to a couple of artists and the director and a radio person or two and a Journalist--Barry Mazor, who's always cogent and quotable and who, no surprise, thinks Americana is lot more viable and interesting than I do, probably. I didn't have space to talk about what is obviously most interesting about the whole thing, which is the relationship of Americana to country music itself. No one would admit to me that country looks to Americana, however cloudily, as a source of inspiration or at least gelt, but Dierks Bentley is playing the Americana show this year. The usual boilerplate about how Americana artists are artists but country music is profit-making. One comment I could not use that sorta amazed me; asking about why black artists are underrepresented, an unused source said, "Well, they must not've sent us their record. We don't push stuff unless someone takes the time to send us their music." So the AMA isn't exactly A&R all over again. Anyway, I guess I think Americana starts in the '70s but picks up steam in the punk/new wave era when many people began looking to country music and other old-tyme stuff for inspiration, like Jason's Nashville Scorchers. Costello in his mid-'80s phase. And a lot of stuff no one remembers for perhaps good reason, like those three Alpha Band records T-Bone Burnett did in the late '70s, or Randall Bramblett's two Polydor albums (the latter of which are quite good actually, esp. the amazing "No Stone Unturned.") So much of modern country is sonically and even musically kind of innovative or at least try-anything, but that effort is scorned as selling out by the Americana crowd. It's the same historical overview you get from both sides, though, with its emphasis on the Classic Rock era more or less. And while I thought Dierks' record was not all that great (altho it is quite listenable and there are some good moments), what it did was update Charlie Daniels and Southern rock for the bluegrass generation. which is interesting, for sure. And for sure, folks will tell you that Up on the Ridge came about because Dierks just decided to do his thing, not that a small army of people made sure he did it within certain parameters or with an eye to the Americana audience.

ebbjunior, Friday, 10 September 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

And right, I also kinda liked Ray Wylie Hubbard's latest, grew on me and I ended up listening to it a lot. he's funny.

ebbjunior, Friday, 10 September 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the first Little Big Town record is the best to my ears. the second one seems a bit too derivative of those weedy CSNY harmonies

By "first" do you mean the actual first, which I've never heard and which no one here has talked about as far as I know, or do you mean the second, which is the first one that scored big (and which I reviewed way back when)?

Being a Johnny Come Lately to this country stuff, I'd never thought ten seconds about Dottie West until two days ago, when a Wikip sentence about her plastic-surgery sex-appeal makeover intrigued me and I listened to a few of her tracks. My ignorance didn't stop me from making a couple of posts about them on my lj (here and here. Suspect that the musical difference 'tween 'fore and after may be less fundamental than it at first seems, given that prior to the change she had leanings towards toney soul, so the disco-cum-adult-contemporary postmakeover tracks may actually be somewhat in line with where she was headed earlier. Surprised how much I liked the bedroom soul of the Kenny Rogers duets such as "What Are We Doing In Love," Kenny especially - Dottie's voice seeming a bit shot in comparison, though she uses the rips in her voicebox to pretty good effect. I prefer her in the '60s, I think, but these opinions come after listening to ten songs of hers total.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 10 September 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

saw jamey johnson for the first time last night. saw some discussion of him way upthread as diffident onstage. not sure i'd use that word. my friend jim said "taciturn." that sounds right. just doesn't feel like talking. and not just to the audience. he barely looked at, or talked to, any of his bandmates either. they're a damn good band, by the way.

the show had an improvisatory feel to it, like they were winging it sans setlist. every song, with maybe one exception, started with jamey seemingly noodling alone on his acoustic guitar, as if trying to remember the chords to a long-lost song. there'd be no eye contact with anyone in the band, and you'd think maybe he was literally noodling, but then he'd start singing, and the band would slowly join in. wayd battle, his upside-down lefty lead guitarist, re-tuned for nearly every song, and he did so, without fail, AFTER jamey had already started the song. he also switched several times between acoustic and electric, again doing so only after jamey had begun singing, making it pretty clear that he, at least, had no idea what jamey was about to play. and yet when they all did kick in, they were tight, and perfectly understated, and beautiful. despite two electric gtrs on stage, the pedal steel did most of the lead work, and jamey did a nifty solo or two himself on his acoustic.

they played lots of new songs, and one of the only things jamey did say to the audience was that it was their first time for a lot of the songs. he heavily emphasized slow ballads. i was under the impression the double album was half and half, ballads and rockers, but if that's the case he pretty much left the rocking half alone. there was more than a little grumbling in the crowd about the slowest ones, but i didn't care, i thought that's where he was at his best, with that great baritone, and with that subtly sophisticated acoustic guitar work (man doesn't show off, but man can play). every time he did play a rocker, he'd slow it down again, almost in an exaggerated way, with the next song. people around me grumbled, i smiled. he didn't play any of the (relatively) upbeat ones from the lonesome song either, no "women," not even a "between jennings and jones," no matter how loudly people yelled for 'em. i could've done without the "turn the page" cover, which i actually think strained his voice. i was glad that he didn't use that song to actually turn the page. he just kept being himself.

sorry to ramble. it was one hell of a show.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 September 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

p.s. i don't mean to suggest everyone else in the crowd hated it or anything like that. there was some grumbling. but he kicked people's asses. in the good way.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 September 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

good to hear. debating driving two hours on a work night to see him in richmond.

Moreno, Friday, 10 September 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Fresh Air recently re-ran a bunch of their country interviews (with decent amount of music in each). They're all posted, and you can listen to: Charlie Rich, Dolly Parton, Carolina Chocolate Drops, Doc Watson, Charlie Louvin, John Doe (promoting the collection of jukebox chesnuts he did with the Sadies, though they're not at the Fresh Air session), Ricky Skaggs, Charlie Haden (yeah, his family had an Okie string band when he was a lad, used to play live on the radio, and he's done some countryoid thangs with Frisell and Metheny), Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Bobby Braddock, George Jones. Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, maybe some others http://npr.org/templates/archives/archive.php?Id=129527317 of course NPR's got a buttload of concert archives, but these were certainly better-than-average interviews, and relatively decent talk/music ratio.

dow, Saturday, 11 September 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry, I italicized, here's the actual link:
http://npr.org/templates/archives/archive.php?thingId=129527317

dow, Saturday, 11 September 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Wondered about Mel McDaniel upthread when somebody asked what the last rockabilly album to have been a high country charter might've been, so I checked out his Just Can't Sit Down Music from 1986 (#25 country chart peak), and it comes pretty close -- The Springsteen B-side cover "Stand On It" is absolutely rockabilly (and even explcitly talks about dancing to rockabilly bands), but I'd say maybe half of the other tracks ("Lower On The Hog" which John Anderson had also done a great version of a few years earlier -- are the bottom pig parts always necessarily cheaper by the way? I never noticed; "'57 Chevy And You," "Just Can't Sit Down Music," "Oh Naomi," maybe "Chain Smokin") have at least some remnant of rockabilly in their singing and rhythm, though I don't know if purists would embrace them. No surprise that McDaniel apparently got into music in Tulsa around 1956, after seeing Elvis. Biggest hit (a #1 in 1985) was "Baby's Got Her Blue Jeans On," which I remember but which never killed me. Christgau gave his 1987 best-of album a B+.

My general feelings about "Americana" (does nobody call it "Alt-Country" anymore?) are on record, no need to repeat them, but I will say since Edd mentioned them that I kind of liked the self-titled 1976 Alpha Band LP that I picked up for $1 last year, but couldn't stomach J. Henry a/k/a T-Bone Burnett's 1972 The B-52 Band And the Fabulous Skylarks, which was almost as dull as, uh, the Avett Brothers are now. Go figure. James Talley has to count as proto-Americana too, right? And it probably all just goes back to the Band, when you get down to it. Did a "Cowpunk Essentials" column (starting with Jason and the Scorchers, whose Fervor I like a lot) for Spin a few months back, but can't find it on line; still think '80s cowpunk had a real energy later alt-country didn't.

Don't know Dottie West's stuff at all, with or without Kenny Rogers (though I suspect I've at least overheard some of the latter), but of course now I'm curious. Been pondering Frank's livejournal question about country guys taking glamour in an idisyncratic direction or countermoving toward country hipness, and I'm not sure I have an answer, though the question did make me think of Phil Vassar (one of the only country guys who seems to make no attempt to look "country" -- in fact, in the few pictures I've seen, he often looks fairly urban and cosmopolitan) and Big Kenny (who is probably one of the few country guys in recent years to present himself as an outright weirdo), but also of Gary Allan and Dwight Yoakam (who, more than Toby or Brooks & Dunn I think, seem to have figured out a way to look both "cool" -- partly meaning strong and silent and shadowy and mysterious and laid-back, but maybe sophisticated, too --and "country" at the same time). Also reminded me that it never registered with me until Caramanica's piece last week that only one guy in Brooks And Dunn -- Brooks -- ever wears a cowboy hat; shows how unobservant I am. Also makes me wonder how and when cowboy hats became the favored male country music headgear instead, of, say, farmers' hats, and why. I usually forget that it's even a costume.

And nah, new Jamey Johnson is definitely not half rockers. Not even close. (I've got a long piece on it in the Voice next week.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

By the way, here's Edd's Americana cover story (which I still need to read):

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/has-americana-arrived/Content?oid=1798554

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, scratch that, actually here (though that previous link does refer to some related pieces, which might or might not be worth looking up in their own right):

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/as-americanas-identity-takes-shape-andmdash-and-boosts-sales-andmdash-the-fledgling-genre-revels-in-its-new-momentum/Content?oid=1798562

Which reminds me that Frank asked this on his livejournal a couple days ago: "why isn't anybody not on Rolling Country talking about cultural stuff like this, limitlessness versus defeat etc.? Or are there lots of people doing so? I can't say I know the discourse." I can't either, though I wouldn't be surprised if blogs like 9513 and Roughstock, or the Nashville Scene itself, might deal with those questions on occasion -- I dunno, maybe in comments boxes, if not articles themselves? But I don't read them enough myself to know.

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Most off-the-charts/over-the-top vocals on that Narvel Felts LP I mentioned here last week, fwiw, would be in "I Remember You," where his singing shifts smoothly from manly to almost ridiculously glam-twee; seriously, the high parts could be Russell Mael in Sparks. Can't think of any other country that does that -- Freddie Fender or Roy Orbison operatics, inasmuch a I've heard them, included (is what they do called melisma, btw, or there another technical term for it?) But maybe it's a Lou Christie or Frankie Valli influence?

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 September 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Kenny (who is probably one of the few country guys in recent years to present himself as an outright weirdo)

Speaking of Big Kenny, I cant recall any talk here about his solo album (which I think came out in late '09), nor did I hear anything from it on the radio, though I guess "Long After I'm Gone" was a single. I'd almost think it was never actually released--except that I saw a physical copy in a Target today.

Drastic times require what? Drastic measures! Who said that? T (President Keyes), Sunday, 12 September 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

By "first" do you mean the actual first, which I've never heard and which no one here has talked about as far as I know, or do you mean the second

The first one--2002, Monument, self-titled. The one with "Don't Waste My Time," one of their best songs and a single that charted respectably back then. And which is a fine record--early-Byrds guitar jangle, later Byrds rocking jangle, Petty organ, soul inflections meeting California country-pop-rock. "Modal" melodies--"Somewhere Far Away" references "On Broadway," while "A Thousand Years" (amazing track) contains Robyn Hitchcock moves with Badfinger slide, album ends with orchestral pop--strings, His Name Is Alive with boondock fixations. Actually I think their second album, The Road to Here, is their most consistent and thematically unified, with country-funk-disco in "Boondocks" and "Mean Streak" and "Looking for a Reason" rocking hard as shit, plus a song about marrying into the wrong side of tracks called "Welcome to the Family." Only drag is "A Little More You," but this is a record about loving yourself and where you're from--the boondocks--that also addresses utopia after-the-fact in the brilliant production and arrangements (which threw me--the Dobro, banjo, mandolin and so forth seemed like a sellout to country musical tropes, but it's all used perfectly, esp. love the doomsday riff of "Bones). And I always hear the opening line of the record as "There's a coal field runnin' up and down my spine." Like a good Chic record, this is where the tropes and the big-picture lyrics really add to critical mass and explode. And the music is truly inspired, some far-out shit in there, as in the fade to "Good as Gone."

A Place to Land (released twice in '07 and again expanded in '08 by Capitol who also broke the single they did with Jake Owens and Sugarland) is more overtly pop--I hear the Go-Betweens in there, Exile Stones, the Faces, "Vapor" appears to rewrite Neil's "Old Man," while the first track, "Fine Line," is one of the more overt Fleetwood Mac rips (I hear "Go Your Own Way" in there, as if the Go-Betweens sexual tension spilled over into more lucrative territory here). It's a really good record but doesn't hang together as well as Road. And the harmonies and the use of the to my ears rather personality-challenged male vocalists got more savvy over these records; again, it's like Chic in a country context, everything is controlled and laid out there in a way that can seem arty until you realize how much pent-up emotion they're channeling thru the intricacies.

ebbjunior, Monday, 13 September 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a thing some acting teachers try to teach, about getting yourself free enough to feel an emotion, but then not try to express it--try to hold contain it, and let it find a way out, against the character's will, because that's what can seem the most credible in a lot (not all scenes). But it's really hard to do right; ditto in music, though it's clearly the thing to do in some traditional, ritualistic ballads, or modern songs that try to emulate them. Speaking of Big Kenny, thanks so much for mentioning that solo album, Mr. President! Here's another that may not have been properly distributed at all in its conjectural first release, and I can't really remember having seen its re-release, despite B&R's apex right about then (streams from this and the Jon album may still work at the original villagevoice.com post)

Wurlitzer Dawgs Out!
By Don Allred Tuesday, Oct 4 2005
Live a Little, Big Kenny's re-released, pre—Big & Rich solo album, brings the noise candy, not the nose candy. It's a skyful of Purple Planetberries, exploding on cue, presented 2 U by B.K., a psych-pop-goes-the-country P.T. Barnum, bopping through amber waves with his drum machine: a confidence man, in every sense and nonsense.
A true con artist has to love his (and all!) mythology, so Kenny's as much wistful crooner as carny barker when singing through a megaphone-like vocoder about "a place where dreams come true." He gets his comeuppance in "Cheater's Lament." Even more so, in "Think Too Much," with virtual drumsticks bouncing off the impervious cello-and-viola cloud of his Orbisonic orbit.
But Roy O. was a Traveling Wilbury, of course (alchemizing with a Bard, a Beatle, an ELO, and a Petty). Which may be why his lonely soul mate Big K.'s only answer, my friends, is the molten-candle-wax Spaghetti Western Mystery Tour that never ends. (With a tip of Big's feathered top hat to "Dor-oh-thee, and Lit-tle To-To," in "Rather Be.")
Down here on the ground where the air is brown and El Lay meets Nash Vegas, Big Kenny's compadre, young Jon Nicholson, listens to the silence all night long. Oh, he can soul-shout all he wants to, but li'l pauses keep getting in between the spooky teeth of Wurlitzer piano on his debut joint, A Lil Sump'm Sump'm. He can dream about a blissfully rolling, Michael Hurley—worthy "Grass River," and a "Grandma" who gets high and flies to glory, with Big & Rich singing along. But he'll wake up, shook up by a girl who "steps to the car," to ask if he's cool. Probably meaning "Are you a cop?" But he's shivering: "Well, how would I know, how does anybody know?" How is his (small-time showbiz) hustle any different from hers? "If you listen to yourself, you're just lying to yourself." But actually, it's OK. Jon's cool.

dow, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

1000 words I wrote about the new Jamey Johnson album:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-09-15/music/jamey-johnson-sprawls-out/

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/09/glower_power_down-and-dirty_co.html

Really really wish i had made that highline show.

Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 September 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, so the ones about L.A. being the Bad Place are the most L.A.-softee-rock of the bunch? And right, Jamey's beard is outta hand. I had the pleasure of meeting Jamey and doing a profile of him for his last record and reviewed The Dollar when it came out in '06. Women I know say he's a hunk and they LIKE his beard. Gosdin's "Set 'Em Up Joe" seems about uncoverable to me, because Gosdin was about twict the singer Johnson is, but hey, what the hell. ("Set 'Em" is the song they play at ever single Ernest Tubb Midnite Jamboree, btw--the long-running radio show now taped, once live, at the ETMJ/ET Record Shop out near Opryland in these parts. Followed by Tex Ritter's enocomium to Tubb ("the tall man with the distinctive voice and smile...") and then some of "Walking the Floor." All of which gives the feeling of timeline that I guess Johnson is going for here. I like him fine, but he's limited, me not being a huge fan of Waylonisms (I like him, don't love him, Jessi did). I note, thinking about country's notions of glamour and hipness Frank and Chuck seem to be musing on, that Jamey looks more like one of the Avett Brothers than he does Brooks & Dunn. Does this bode a paradigm shift within country? And I note that I just find a lot of Johnson's music turgid. My favorite moment of his probably remains "Mowing Down the Roses." But his covers of Whitley et al are mostly good. I sensed a lotta Alabama angst in Johnson there in the Mercury offices high above Nashville and that's fine, I feel that way myself these days much of the time. This and Elizabeth Cook's record are the Quality Anti-Nashville Nashville albums so far this year and I think Cook writes better songs but Johnson sings better, or at least I am not annoyed so much by Johnson's vocals as I am Elizabeth's very nice Dollyisms.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe inevitably, the new Jamey Johnson album gets its own thread:

Who wants to talk about Jamey Johnson's new double album, The Guitar Song?

xhuxk, Friday, 17 September 2010 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not sure I totally understand Frank's notion of "country hipness," having taken a look at his LJ stuff and some cool Dottie videos. What you may get out of listening to Dottie West is a mental comparison of how a jazz singer or a "straight" "pop" singer might've tackled "Country Girl." Blossom Dearie would've turned it into a celebration of a city girl's fantasy of what country life is like, but West comes from the recognizable stance of a person who'd been immersed in the country and no big deal therefore, which comes across in the matter-of-fact singing--the way she phrases steadily across from verse to chorus. But a hip performance...I don't know how you'd even bring that idea into that music, actually, because it's just so opposed to the entire idea of hip circa the actual West recording. Because the West performance is beyond asking questions about what she even means to do, she's just doing it and her audience wants it that straight and can only deal with it delivered that straight.

But I'd venture that all current Nashville big-time country is more or less exploring this idea of country hip, because Nashville is a country-hip town to begin with. Jamey Johnson looks like he's in a metal band or in Black Mountain or the Avett Brothers, Urban, Paisley, Allan, Yoakam, Vassar, Bobby Pinson all are playing with this idea. Eric Church doesn't seem to be so much. Elizabeth Cook--whose album will doubtless vie with Jamey's in the Scene poll as disc-of-year--is all about that, which actually both helps her and limits her music. At least half of her new one, which contains some brilliant stuff and hangs together conceptually well enough for me to give it a high A grade, tries to inject some funk or rock into the country structures, but it gets stuck somewhere for me--the rockers don't rock enough, but the words to the flat-out country tunes are absolutely great. And this may be one tentative key to why country and hip are hard thangs to reconcile--the words are just so important, don't toy around with them. Country's sonics are flat cardboard so much of the time; certainly Dottie's backing in that old video of "Country Girl" is a pretty uninflected waltz, just functional, just like it oughta be.

I think a question to ask would be: how improvisational has country ever been, in the studio or on stage? How much has it taken liberties with its form compared to pop or jazz or even soul? And more to the point, how would county audiences today react to someone stepping on the form or being too, too hip in that way? Because formally, Johnson's record is way retrograde, but the sonics are a higher grade of cardboard and that's what's selling the thing, besides his great beard and overall great bad-ass attitude, to those of us who wanna be hip, I know I do.

ebbjunior, Friday, 17 September 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2010/09/whats-wanker-to-do.html

This just whipped up homemade video of an old song is worth a quick look. The Foremen -- ha!

Gorge, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Well this touches on what I mentioned earlier about Paisley and Bentley getting more toward giving instrumental interludes more room to develope at times (or Paisley's whole album, a while back). Mind you, they aren't doing duets with Ornette Coleman or Weedeater. it's still in acceptable/traditional ways of stretching out, bluegrass and Southern Rock's jazzier,jammier inclinatations (but with hats still on and cowboy shirts still clean)But it can be refreshing if it sounds like it's finding refreshment (mostly live, ditto Keith Urban and a number of others) Anyway, was wondering about Mandy Barnett, and google read my mind of course, hence the most fascinating press release of the past five minutes, incl. a bunch of releases at the end, which might be pretty decent:
_LEBANON, Tenn_. (September 20, 2010) As you start thinking about holiday
entertainment and stocking stuffers, you may want to consider some new music
that provides all the authentic sounds of the holiday traditions so many of
us cherish. The newest CD in Cracker Barrel Old Country Store's exclusive
music program is _Winter Wonderland, _the holiday album by acclaimed
vocalist Mandy Barnett. In addition to the title track, holiday standards
such as "_Jingle Bell Rock_," "_A Holly Jolly Christmas,"_ "_Marshmallow
World_," "_I'll Be Home For Christmas_" and "_White Christmas_" are all
included in this wonderful collection of holiday songs. Mandy has recaptured
the Golden Era with the song choices and production on this album, along
with a musical cast of veterans such as Harold Bradley, Lloyd Green, Louis
Nunley, Gene Chrisman and Tony Migliore, who lent their talents to render an
instant classic. You may care to know that guitarist Harold Bradley and
back-up singer Louis Nunley appear on the original versions of several of
these songs, including "_Jingle Bell Rock_"! This album is now available,
but only at Cracker Barrel.

"I wanted this album to be a classic and to remind people of the simpler
times they had when they were children," said Mandy, in talking about how
she approached recording this CD. "It was important to record these songs in
an authentic fashion so people would connect with them emotionally," she
added.

Mandy Barnett became well-known as a teenager when she starred as country
music legend Patsy Cline in the stage show "Always...Patsy Cline" at the
celebrated Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, TN. The performances were sold out
nightly and received impressive reviews across the country. Mandy went on to
record various albums, including one with legendary producer Owen Bradley.
She is an active performer nationally and internationally, and is a frequent
guest on the Grand Ole Opry.

Mandy is also a frequent guest at Cracker Barrel. "I am hooked on Uncle
Herschel's Favorite," she says, referring to Cracker Barrel's signature
breakfast offering. She also likes to order the Country Fried Chicken
country dinner plate and macaroni n' cheese, which she calls real comfort
food.

"Mandy has a strong, resonant voice that warms your heart as soon as you
hear it," says Cracker Barrel's Vice President of Marketing Peter Keiser.
"Cracker Barrel is very pleased to provide this high quality, pleasing CD
for our guests' holiday entertainment and gift-giving."

Cracker Barrel's exclusive music program features numerous projects. In
September of this year of this year, Cracker Barrel released the self-titled
_Rodney Atkins_, which includes four #1 hits. In July, the company released
Craig Morgan's _That's Why- Collector's Edition_,_ _and in May the release
of Wynonna's Love Heals debuted at #7 on the Billboard Magazine Top Country
Albums chart. February's release of _Dailey & Vincent Sing the Statler
Brothers_ debuted at #1 on Billboard's Top Bluegrass Albums chart, where it
spent nine weeks in the top position and 18 weeks overall in one of the
three top positions since its release on February 1st. Releases in 2009
included November's _Songs of Love and Heartache_ by Alan Jackson,
September's release of an exclusive new version of _The Foundation_ by the
Zac Brown Band, August's George Jones' release of _A Collection Of My Best
Recollection_, May's release of Montgomery Gentry's _For Our Heroes_, which
debuted at #5 on Billboard Magazine's Top Country Albums chart, and March's
release of Dolly Parton's _Collector's Edition of Backwoods Barbie__, _which
debuted at #9 on that chart. Over the last few years, Cracker Barrel has
released exclusive CDs with Bill Gaither, Kenny Rogers, Ricky Skaggs, Aaron
Tippin, Alison Krauss & Union Station, Josh Turner, Amy Grant, Sara Evans,
and Charlie Daniels_._
Think you mentioned some Cracker Barrel comps, xhux?

dow, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

So Edd, was Marshall Chapman really as good as you say in your Americana piece? When? I picked up an old album by her on the cheap last year, one of her late '70s ones, but thought it wasn't good at all, as the link at this link (and subsequent post-lets) indicate:

Rolling Country 2009 Thread

She did cover "Turn The Page" long before either Metallica or Jamey Johnson, though -- I'll give her that. But Christgau seems to have been really skeptical about her too -- middling grades all down the line, until some obscure 1987 cassette called Dirty Linen that came out on vinyl only in Germany, and which he liked way more than any of her other albums. Anyway, curious which records by her you'd recommend. And either way, her prediction that a "next" Hendrix/Elvis/Hank would emerge from "Americana" music is plainly nuts.

Good piece, though. But I have to wonder about your contention that "a vision of American music that combined traditional values with modernist sensibilities" equals a "experimentalism can seem alien to...the mainstream country follower," since basically that's what mainstream country does too, I'd say -- just differently. In fact, if anything, I'd say I hear way more experimenting with form going on, less staidness, there (or in "pop music," which you also name) than in Americana-so-called. And it's not like Nashville doesn't constantly pay lip service to "traditional values" (and traditional American music) too. But it's not news that I think that.

Anyway, enough griping. Don, yeah, I think I mentioned Cracker Barrel's Montgomery Gentry best-of once. (Haven't heard that; they've got another best-of out next week, apparently, and I haven't heard that either.) Here's my review of the new Randy Houser:

http://www.rhapsody.com/randy-houser/they-call-me-cadillac#albumreview

xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Marshall Chapman: Dirty Linen, It's About Time and Marshall are her best in roughly descending order. Her new one is nice too. My take is that once she got over being marketed as a rock 'n' rollin' country crossover and just started making the kind of more-or-less relaxed music she does now, she was way better. Her live-at-prison album (It's About Time) is as good as Mack Vickery's live prison record...

The thing about Americana that you picked up on, Chuck, is that I think they think they're being "experimental" and "uncommercial" all the time; they're doing what they want. To the Americana sensibility, pairing Robert "Spook Music" Plant with Buddy Miller or Miller with Solomon Burke is audacious. I don't think so myself, and as I have said here, all of this goes back to Xgaju's "semipopular" in the '70s works of...name somebody, Thomas Jefferson Kaye, Andy Fairweather Lowe (who cut in Nashville), on and on. So, nothing new. The point is that it's conceived as an alternative to bad old country. And right, country does do some stuff that's sorta experimental on the surface, mainly I think it's production, and I guess it's modernist in the sense of something being left behind, the old farm and whatever, but really experimenting...country used to do it more, I think, because the stakes were somewhat lower and everybody knew that when ol' Jerry Reed dabbled with Chet in jazz, it was just country boys playin' around with something that ain't that hard, we're just pickers...that sorta thing. I don't hear the same spirit in Dierks doing bluegrass--which by the way ought to be the Americana record of the year. So let's just say that a 19-year-old performer like Sarah Jarosz, into the Decembrists, or some addled Austin Western-swing outfit, ties into indie in a way that country audiences don't generally get, unless you think Carrie Underwood fans like the Decembrists or Neko Case. But right, something like that Judge Jerrod thing we talked about earlier, it's definitely got something going with both form and production that Americana, in its purity, wouldn't try. As for Chapman's predictions, well, she said it, I didn't. Her point is cogent enough--she's asking where innovative performers like Hendrix would've landed, today. The point she misses is that there was once a whole circuit for someone like Hendrix to learn his chops in, the chitlin circuit, which sorta exists today, but that has little to do with Americana. Someone like Hendrix is beyond Americana, for sure. The main thing I remember is that Americana feeds into the mainstream of country's talent pool constantly; the songwriters, the players, the overall concept, which is Nashville-hip. I love Nashville as a city, it's my home, but I have a place in my heart for crass commercialism and the innovations that arise from those pecuniary motives, and I love jazz, experimental pop, Brazilian craziness, rhythms and general bad taste whenever possible, and this is a town of good taste that can strangle a lot of things. The most jaded audiences I've ever seen. So trying to do anything actually new here...it's tough on you. Americana is designed to give creedence or credence to the notions of being an artist within the same old parameters, and all I do is ask, what are the parameters?

ebbjunior, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

http://mobile.latimes.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=294&nid=23165032&cid=16698&scid=1857&ith=1&title=Entertainment

LA Times me-too on Jamey Johnson, doing his video in LA. Matt McConnaughey is his pal, it sez.

Gorge, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Me on the new Kenny Chesney album (which is probably one of the better country albums of this year):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/09/chesney.html

...and the new Toby Keith album (which I possibly may have gone too easy on):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/09/tobybullets.html

...and what the heck, the new Doobie Brothers album (which I definitely don't recommend per se', but which sounded better than I would have predicted, plus it's got Willie Nelson on it so that justifies me posting this here):

http://www.rhapsody.com/the-doobie-brothers/world-gone-crazy-3#albumreview

xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Minor Keith Urban mention on post about destruction of middle class US guitar business for sake of custom shop goods for the upper class/pros with contracts.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/09/30/guitar-center-made-in-china/

Urban's the cover on the latest Guitar Center shopper, along for a discussion of vintage guitars, which are not the bulk of GC's business in their main showrooms.

Gorge, Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Article in today's hardcopy LATimes on the Avett Brothers. I'd suspect they'd be completely uninteresting here since the banjo player is described as playing his instrument, not like Earl Scruggs, but like a guitar player from Echo & the Bunnymen. Which outside of the freakish quality doesn't make me even faintly curious since it's too archly toward nerd rock or the let's write an article the NPR listeners and programmers will save.

I saw them mentioned a little upstream but not in any meaningful or muchly enthusiastic ways.

Gorge, Friday, 1 October 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

You're not missing anything:

Rolling Country 2006 Thread

Rolling Country 2008 Thread

Finished #15 in Pazz & Jop last year, for reasons I will never comprehend.

xhuxk, Friday, 1 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

trying to figure out if miranda lambert learned "long white cadillac," one of the half-dozen or so covers she played wednesday night in new york, from the blasters, from dwight yoakam, or from someone/somewhere else. her performance of it was dead on -- not great, not bad -- just a good rootsy song that fit quite comfortably into her set. i was less impressed with her take on rick derringer's "rock and roll hoochie koo," which she just kinda yelled through, as if trying to prove she can rock with a capital R, as if anyone didn't already know. i was more impressed by her encore of merle haggard's "misery and gin," which she nailed after informing the crowd of her intent to marry merle as soon as she divorces blake.

it was a damn good show. it says a lot about how impressive her catalog already is, only three albums in, that she can dispense with "only prettier," "kerosene" and "famous in a small town" in the first 10 minutes and still have a set full of singles and rocking crowd-pleasers ahead. she went balls-out from start to finish, maintaining the feel even thru the ballads. the mic stand built out of a rifle is amusing, especially when she's standing behind it in spiked heels. how does she play guitar in those things? how does she run around in those things? is that why her legs are cut like a bodybuilder's?

i also loved that a roadie mopped -- not just swept, but mopped -- the stage between eric church's set and hers. i've reasonably sure i've never seen that before. a declaration of her girliness, in case anyone didn't already know THAT, perhaps.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 1 October 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i was less impressed with her take on rick derringer's "rock and roll hoochie koo," which she just kinda yelled through, as if trying to prove she can rock with a capital R, as if anyone didn't already know.

― fact checking cuz, Friday, October 1, 2010 3:53 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Regardless, one has to be impressed with her choice of covers, generally. The girl's got an incredible sense of both what's worth covering and what she's capable of nailing. I maintain that the two covers from CEG, Patty Griffin's "Getting Ready" and Emmylou Harris' "Easy from Now On", both best the originals. And those aren't artists I would ever imagine someone as inexperienced as Lambert could so easily top.

As far as the "rock with a capital R" thing, I regrettably got that sense throughout much of the last record. "White Liar" and "Dead Flowers" walked a fine line, but "Maintain the Pain," "Somewhere Trouble Don't Go," and "That's the Way the World Goes Round" are three of the album's weakest points, IMO. I worry that the way she's been personified as rough n tough may push her away from her softer, cleaner numbers.

To a great extent, I'm glad that "The House That Built Me" was the song that finally broke the charts, because--like on "Love is Looking for You," "Love Your Memory," and the infallible "Desperation"--it's the contrast of her ballads that I find so enchanting about her.

Indexed, Friday, 1 October 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost re Avett Brothers. Those old posts explain the "they were skate punks" thread also running through today's LAT piece.

Gorge, Friday, 1 October 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

miranda lambert

Post linked above indicates that I definitely don't see eye-to-eye with Indexed about Lambert's ballads vs. rockers issue. Also thought her third LP was by far her dullest (and have never really connected with Patty Griffin or Emmylou, for that matter). So have to admit the idea of Miranda covering "Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo," one of my favorite hard rock hits ever, intrigues me. I should do a youtube search, though if Fact Checking Cuz is right I'll just get my hopes dashed. So I'll hold off. Could see her MAYBE pulling a real Suzi Quatro with that one. (George, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Quatro sing backup on Derringer's original -- or hit version anyway; he re-recorded it a couple times, right? And guess she covered it herself on If You Know Suzi, which for some reason I don't own a copy of, despite it also containing her only real U.S. hit "Stumblin' In" and, apparently, a cover of Tom Petty's "Breakdown." She also suppposedly inspired Derringer's own '70s andro-glam look; be cool if Lambert picked up on that.)

Anyway, speaking of Brothers, I should confess that I've probably spent too much time in recent months comparing very cheaply purchased or gifted late '70s and early '80s Bellamy Brothers albums. Decided I kinda like Featuring 'Let Your Love Flow' (1976) and Sons Of The Sun (1980), but kinda don't like Plain & Fancy (1977) and Beautiful Friends (1978), which doesn't make a lot of chronological sense, but whatever. Love Flow, besides the soft rock immortal title cut, starts with a couple real bubbly poppy ones about wanting to be a millionaire rock star and wanting to make out in the back of the Chevy back when McCartney was the holy ghost, ends with a sort of quasi rockabilly called "Hell Cat," and has a couple almost semi-pyschedelic hippie dippie things in the middle ("Let Fantasy Live," "Inside Of My Guitar") that sound like the theoretical roots of Big Kenny or Jerrod Niemann, plus an odd one about how living in the West must've been great for all the outlaws but the singer lives in the East. Sons Of The Sun has them soaking in a hot tub on the back and starts with a few sun-burnt catchy sleazy ones, including one about how ladies in New York charge a whole week's pay for sex but the girls back in cowboy land used to do it free, and has their still swampy cover of Jim Stafford's '70s hit "Spiders And Snakes" (which David Bellamy co-wrote in the first place, it turns out) on the flip, after a sort of passably funny one called "Honey We Don't Know No One In Nashville." Plain And Fancy starts with the very promising "You Made Me," which rocks almost as hard as the Doobies circa "China Grove," and has a song called "Hard Rockin" on the flip that doesn't, and none of the rest ever sticks with me. Most memorable song by far on Beatiful Friends is their cover of the Everly Brothers' "Bird Dog," which I never thought much about before, but it was sort of a proto-Trashmen trash goof, and a total anomaly for them, right? Or did they actually do other tunes like that I'm not thinking of? Either way, I bet their version was better.

xhuxk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, Indexed and I do agree on "Dead Flowers," I guess. (But I don't think "House That Built Me" is all that much better.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

And, duh, "Love is Looking for You," "Love Your Memory," and "Desperation" are all on the first two albums. So maybe I should read posts more closely before deciding to disagree with them. (And I much prefer the first two albums' ballads to the third album's. And I haven't even played the third one for a while now, so far all I know my opinion on it will change if/when I pull it out again.)

In other news, I decided I way prefer the Lefty Frizell best-of LP I purchased for a pittance this summer to the Ernest Tubb best-of LP I purchased for even less. Apples and oranges? I dunno. Tubb's fine, but after "Walking The Floor Over You," which is great, most everything else he does strikes me as a lesser imitation of "Walking The Floor Over You." What percentage of his big hits were about getting dumped? Judging from this album, must be somewhere near the 90% range, at least. Tubbheads should feel free to argue, though.

xhuxk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, just checked Whitburn -- a weird or maybe not thing about the Bellamys is that they apparently sort of crossed over to country from pop. Or at least, they charted pop first, with that "Let Your Love Flow" album, which Whitburn says is actually self-titled, and which had two other Hot 100 hits on it ("Hell Cat" and "Satin Sheets") along with the #1 pop title track (which did go #21 country. But then their next five singles goose-egged country-wise till, wow, "Bird Dog.") Next two LPs, the ones I don't like, didn't show up on either chart, and then they never put an album in the Billboard 200 again! But in 1979, they started scoring albums and singles (incl. #1's "If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me," "Sugar Daddy," and "Dancin' Cowboys") on the country chart. Sons Of The Sun was the third one there, but their sixth album total. Haven't heard albums #4 or #5 yet.

xhuxk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, six straight post-"Love Flow" 45s missed the country chart, not five. And btw, I realize it's not unheard of for pop acts to cross over to country -- at least from ONJ and Ronstadt all the way to Bon Jovi, Darius Rucker, and Jewel -- but how rare is it for act that does that to never score again on the pop side? Seems weird that the Bellamys wouldn't have had more low-level pop success, given they always had a fairly poppy sound, that even tried to work in reggae, rap, Latin, etc. on occasion. In other words, they were sure no more pure-country than, say, Brooks & Dunn, who actually reminded me of them when they first came out, and who've had a pile of Top 20 albums in the Billboard 200 and lots of Hot 100, even Top 40, hits. But maybe it's just that country was crossing over less in general during the Bellamys' heyday? (Despite Dolly, Kenny Rogers, etc? Weird.) Plus, there's SoundScan I guess.

xhuxk, Saturday, 2 October 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

So have to admit the idea of Miranda covering "Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo," one of my favorite hard rock hits ever, intrigues me. I should do a youtube search, though if Fact Checking Cuz is right I'll just get my hopes dashed. So I'll hold off. Could see her MAYBE pulling a real Suzi Quatro with that one. (George, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Quatro sing backup on Derringer's original -- or hit version anyway; he re-recorded it a couple times, right? And guess she covered it herself on If You Know Suzi, which for some reason I don't own a copy of, despite it also containing her only real U.S. hit "Stumblin' In" and, apparently, a cover of Tom Petty's "Breakdown." She also suppposedly inspired Derringer's own '70s andro-glam look; be cool if Lambert picked up on that.)

I have some bit of detritus in my head faintly remembering seeing some Lambert audience-taken clip of her doing Hootchie Koo and quickly hitting reject. A lot of the audience vids are abominable.

That having been said, it's really tough to do a good version of the song because it requires about the pinnacle in Seventies hard rock backing. You have to have two guitarists and they, basically, have to be really great. Plus ya need a great rhythm section. And if you don't have those, you go over the top on the vocal, which doesn't work.

There are only three versions of the song worth listening to. Two are by those who own it. It's either Johnny Winter And or Rick Derringer. The obscure Brit band, Stretch, who were Johnny Winter freaks, also turned a great recorded version. No one else.

A lot of people just don't remember how influential and all over the place the Blue Sky mafia were. Edge, Johnny Winter, Dan Hartman, Rick Derringer, various hot shit Texas sidemen from Tin House, etc.

The Johnny Winter And studio album is a really great amalgam of hard rock, blues and roots music. And that's where Hootchie Koo started taking off. Although, popularly, it's the center piece of Rick Derringer's first solo album which pushed a polished American teen glam rock vibe, such as it was. I think Derringer was about thirty when he did it (I may be wrong), but what the hey, he had the face.

Pat Benatar's band did a great Rock n Roll Hootchie Koo live. Course, they weren't with Pat Benatar yet. They were Derringer before he ceded them to her and that song is not on his album with them, If I Weren't So Romantic, I'd Shoot You. Which is really good, anyway.

Gorge, Saturday, 2 October 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Edge, Johnny Winter, Dan Hartman, Rick Derringer, various hot shit Texas sidemen from Tin House, etc.

Edge? How'd that creep in there?!! Ghosts in the machine? Freudian Alzheimer's
slip. Delete-delete-delete. Ctrl-alt-del.

Gorge, Saturday, 2 October 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link

And, yeah, Rick Derringer has recorded Hootchie Koo many times. Too many, probably. The one you like best is the solo alb version. Johnny Winter And's version is really great, too. Can't check the original vinyl credits for Quatro but it makes sense since the solo album was so obviously aimed at glam.

Gorge, Saturday, 2 October 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link

And, duh, "Love is Looking for You," "Love Your Memory," and "Desperation" are all on the first two albums. So maybe I should read posts more closely before deciding to disagree with them. (And I much prefer the first two albums' ballads to the third album's. And I haven't even played the third one for a while now, so far all I know my opinion on it will change if/when I pull it out again.)

― xhuxk, Friday, October 1, 2010 9:04 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, just to clarify, I think the first two records are miles better than the third; they were two of my most played records of the 2000s. To be sure, if you asked me to name my 10 favorite ML songs, I might pick one off of Revolution.

What I like so much about the first two is how balanced and well-paced they are; the hard rockers are tempered with ballads that actually manage to stand out. They're not bloated or front-loaded. And there are clever covers in all the right places (she's an excellent songwriter, but it doesn't hurt to have Travis Howard and Gillian Welch's help).

An aside: Does anyone know why Travis Howard had such a diminished role on Revolution? He's written some of her best songs ("Famous in a Small Town," "Guilty in Here," "Mama I'm Alright," "I Can't Be Bothered") but only penned one track on Revolution, the pretty good "Heart Like Mine."

On the third one, I felt like the media/radio/CMT typecast of her--as a rough n tough rebel--predisposed the record to sound like it did. It was really over-produced, particularly on the hard rockers, and that's something that becomes especially apparent as you listen to the album front to back. The songs that stand out aren't the big numbers but "Me and Your Cigarettes," "Airstream Song," "Time to Get a Gun," and "The House That Built Me"--all of which are far less heavy handed on the production side compared to, say, "Maintain the Pain" or "Love Song" (which is pretty easily her worst track to date--Thanks, Lady Antebellum!).

The one big exception on the rocker side, IMO, is "Dead Flowers," which is more dynamic and supportive than most of the other tracks. There's a lot of empty space on that track left for her to fill, and the backup vocals are perfect.

Indexed, Sunday, 3 October 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

The middle stretch is overproduced; maybe an audiophile can define what makes "Maintain the Pain" and "Only Prettier" sound compressed and tinny. As much as I might agree with you about her appeal to the "Gunpowder and Lead" crowd, those Revolution rockers all boast a compelling guitar hook or two. No advances, but no retreads either. To my ears Revolution is her Give'Em Enough Rope.

What bothers me more than the compression is the indifferent sequencing. While I'm not a believer in "thematic unity" or whatever, with this record my attention waxes and wanes too often.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 October 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Any of you guys heard Sunny Sweeney's record? Her new single gets reviewed by the Jukebox crew this week. The song and arrangement compensate for her lack of affect.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't heard her album, if there is one. Love the single (and will say so on Jukebox soon obviously.) Frank Kogan lists it as his #2 country single of the year so far on the list below; it'd be up near the top of my list too; could make my P&J singles list (which'll be a winged theoretical mess this year either way.) Frank names a bunch of songs I haven't heard, by the way. Did hear an advance of the Stealing Angels album last week though, even though it doesn't come out until next Valentine's Day, and I liked it a bunch (some tracks more than the one that Frank names, I think) which thereby officially makes it my fave album of 2011 so far, not that there's any competition. (Got an advance of Brit soul rap guy Plan B's early 2011 album in the mail last week too, but haven't put it on yet.)

http://koganbot.livejournal.com/240173.html#cutid2

Stealing Angels' MySpace (they are three gals):

http://www.myspace.com/stealingangels

Also been kind of liking the new album by this Texas duo Rosehill -- good '70s-soft-rock-disguised-as-country road songs, sounds way better in a car than at home, probably on purpose. Favorites so far are "West Of Sunset," "White Lines And Stars," and "Midnight America," with a couple more in reserve (including "Sunday" I think), though "Picassos For Pesos" is sadly not as good as its title:

http://www.rosehill-live.com/Rosehill/Welcome.html

Caramanica slams (most of) the new Toby Keith album, maybe deservedly. Like I said above, I'm already starting to think I cut it too much a break; may well be the most ignorable he's made, at least this millenium. Then again, tracks clicking on the radio (no longer a foregone conclusion for the guy) could rope it in for me. Eventually I'll put it back on again and doublecheck, I guess. Anyway:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/04/arts/music/04choice.html

Also, Caramanica last week, on the new Kenny Chesney (which he likes, as do I):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/arts/music/27choice.html

Listening to Kris Kristoferson's Me And Bobby McGee LP right now. It came in a box of giveaways from Metal Mike Saunders (who, surprisingly, said he's a fan of it), and it's even worse than I figured. If there's a more rigid vocalist on the planet (well, before alt-country and indie-rock made rigidity a law) I don't know who it would be. I guess some of the songwriting and melodies might click despite the horrible singing, but not much of it, at least so far. Thought "Blame It On the Stones," which I'd never heard before, was kind of amusing -- well, at least the parts that sort of ape the Stones' late '60s middle eastern-ish psych moments. Bombastic chorus really got on my nerves. But before Kristofferson I played Don Gibson's Oh Lonesome Me, which came in a giveaway pile from my father-in-law, and liked it more than I thought I would -- he's got a tangible bounce to his stuff, turns out. Had somehow not made the connection that "Sweet Sweet Girl," the second single I think on circa-1980 pre-Stray Cats new wave rockabilly band the Kingbees' LP with their then-AOR hit (in Detroit anyway) "My Mistake" on it, was a Don Gibson cover, even though I'd probably read that somewhere. A few months ago I didn't have either version, but now I have both, since I found the Kingbees LP for $1 a few months ago. It was passable, just barely, better in the couple tracks where it sped up or gave space to clanky retro percussion, but still a disappointment since nothing else came close to "My Mistake" on it. And finally, last night I played John Stewart's California Bloodlines, which I pulled off the shelf because the two California tracks on the new Jamey Johnson album made me think of him, and basically its knowing world-weariness sounds how I wish Kristofferson would sound. (Kris still on, by the way, still sounding awful. "Sunday Morning Comin' Down" -- okay, that's so great I admit he pulls it off. But his "For The Good Times" was just painful.)

xhuxk, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

horrible singing

kris kristofferson solo acoustic three or four years back at carnegie hall, opening for george jones, may well have been the single worst performance i've ever seen by a major artist. endearingly awful, but awful nonetheless. in addition to horrible singing, which in this case meant he literally couldn't carry a tune, there was daniel johnston-level guitar playing, plus he forgot the words to several songs and abandoned them halfway through. he looked and sounded like a nervous 12-year-old playing his first recital. it was endearing because he acknowledged all that, and because he looked so utterly cute, like your hipster granddad, as he stumbled along. but. still. i assume he could have afforded a band if he wanted to.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

that sunny sweeney single may well be my favorite single of the year. countrypolitan heaven.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Jason Aldean, title song of new album, "My Kinda Party." Mediocre hard rock riddled with all the party cliches, Aldean baring his teeth heroically. I might like his stuff a little more if he took some amphetamines. Seemed extraordinarily tuneless, even for him.

Guess he never was a big fan of ZZ Top.

Gorge, Monday, 4 October 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

that sunny sweeney single may well be my favorite single of the year. countrypolitan heaven.

― fact checking cuz, Monday, October 4, 2010 9:47 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

For sure.

Anybody else diggin' the Blake Shelton/Miranda Lambert duet "Draggin' the River" on his All About Tonight EP? It's a fun number.

Indexed, Monday, 4 October 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sweeney single is pretty fantastic, yes, and I've been pleasantly surprised that it's shown some legs at radio.

Counterpoint: On first listen, the new Sugarland, The Incredible Machine, is a trainwreck, and not the entertaining kind.

jon_oh, Monday, 4 October 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't heard it, but this suggests that "trainwreck" (though presumably the entertaining kind) may be what they were aiming for:

Nettles says that "The Incredible Machine" --both the album and their forthcoming tour -- take inspiration from the "steampunk movement," , a branch of science fiction that imagines a world where humans evolved intellectually, but technology remained set in Victorian times. "I describe it emotionally as bungee jumping and eating chocolate cake," she says.

http://www.billboard.com/news/sugarland-goes-steampunk-for-incredible-1004080330.story#/news/sugarland-goes-steampunk-for-incredible-1004080330.story

Also, am I several months behind the curve to learn about this? (I actually don't watch videos much; not sure if it ever came out).

Taylor Swift, who has a rival album due out in October also, does not want to be outdone by Sugarland. So she is working on her own video based on a sci-fi sub-genre. But it’s not steampunk, it is the excessively-graphic, hyperintensive horror of splatterpunk.
“It starts off innocent enough,” said a member of the production crew, speaking on condition of anonymity. “It begins like the Taylor Swift songs we’re all used to, about a High School sweetheart. But when she goes to a party and finds her new beau on the arm of another girl, the blood and guts start flying.”

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/taylor-swift-tops-sugarlands-steampunk-w-splatterpunk

That Adkins/Lambert single is indeed fun. Rhythm is Skynyrd's "Gimme Three Steps," but the real energy is in the singing (no big surprise for Miranda, but I'd forgotten Blake could sound so hearty), the story, and the borderline provocative asides at the end.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, that Taylor story may be a joke, for all I know. (Though I'm not sure I'd put it past her.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

But yeah, that website doesn't look like one that would take kindly to Swift. So an attempt at humor, I'm 99% sure. Homepage stories about Justin Townes Earle getting arrested and checking into rehab, plus stuff about Emmylou Harris and lots of apparently alt-ish artists I never heard of before; headlines about "REAL country," ho hum. This, from their Jamey Johnson review, seems fairly typical:

let me summarize by saying that compared to most of the independent/Outlaw/underground country I am used to listening to and reviewing, this album is somewhere between mediocre and average. But compared to the rest of the material coming from major labels in Nashville, this album is remarkable...For a Nashville-based album put out in 2010, the songs and arrangements are surprisingly tasteful and true to the roots of country

A ton of comments at the end, though, some of which might be interesting if I ever got around to reading them.

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/album-review-jamey-johnsons-the-guitar-song

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Nettles says that "The Incredible Machine" --both the album and their forthcoming tour -- take inspiration from the "steampunk movement"

Wow. They read William Gibson's The Difference Engine.

It's a show stopper, like admitting your favorite book in college was something by Ayn Rand. Or, worse, Bruce Stirling. (That's a joke, he was the co-author with Gibson.)

Gorge, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

miranda and blake had a very different-sounding co-write and duet called "bare skin rug" on his 2008 album, startin' fires. that one was an old-timey waltz, and it was totally sexy and totally fun.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I actually interviewed him for Billboard at the time, about that album (which turned out to be not very good, overall, I thought):

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE4A003R20081101

And obviusly I meant "Shelton/Lambert single" above, not Adkins/Lambert.

Also, for what it's worth, the three new Jamey Johnson tracks that SavingCountry reviewer liked a lot (“Can’t Cash My Checks,” “California Riots,” and “Macon") are three of my favorites on the album, as well. But the guy's not too coherent otherwise, as far as I can tell. Plus he seems to think Hank Williams III is a great artist, which is ridiculous.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

miranda and blake had a very different-sounding co-write and duet called "bare skin rug" on his 2008 album, startin' fires. that one was an old-timey waltz, and it was totally sexy and totally fun.

― fact checking cuz, Monday, October 4, 2010 11:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yes! It's a wonderful track. But I think I like "Draggin" more.

Indexed, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd read about the "steampunk" angle for The Incredible Machine, but my understanding is that it only carries through as far as the album's packaging is concerned-- Sugarland's logo is spelled out using gears and bolts and other machinery, and they're dressed like they sent some of Sweeney Todd's costumes to the dry cleaner. That is, unless sounding a whole lot like Coldplay and Melissa Etheridge somehow qualifies as "steampunk," which I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

On a positive note, Nettles doesn't affect that ridiculous, bullshit drawl on this album. But she also doesn't enunciate half of her consonants at all, so you win some, you lose some...

The Taylor Swift splatterpunk thing is most certainly a joke, and, no, the Saving Country Music blog is not a fan of hers or too many major label country acts at all.

jon_oh, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

You mean they look like Robert Downey and whatsisname in the Sherlock Holmes movie from 2009, only a lot cleaner?

Bizarre. Since that time was Dickensian England and grinding poverty.

Gorge, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8

Victoria Jackson doing a semi-poor woman's Ray Stevens.

You can cut & paste. More surprising to me is that Victoria Jackson's YouTube channel is called PasadenaTeaParty.

Seen across the el Molino st bridge everyday I go to lunch, big lawn sign in a iron-fenced yard guarded by a Doberman that's had its bark silenced: "Voting for liberals in Congress is like putting PIRANHAS in your child's playpool!"

Gorge, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Heard a whole bunch of pretty good country singles last month that I oughta write up, while not liking most of what I'm hearing this month though I like the one where Toby and the border whiskey girl go in on the lam and out like Bonnie and Clyde. And the track where Tim McGraw goes all singin'-and-bouncin' about lip gloss. I like the new Aldean, "My Kinda Baby," more than George does, though do think it's good fundamentally for the guitars, while Jason fails to hold his own. Checked out the original by Brantley Gilbert, whose voice is no stronger than Jason's but whose arrangement gives it a much better setting. In any event, both versions whip out the guitars, the Brantley with hot riffs and lines, while the guitars on the Aldean are more... not sure what it is, architectural, maybe, creating a structure rather than riding the bronco. Makes me think of hair metal, a bit.

I went and listened to Gilbert's Halfway To Heaven, which doesn't have "My Kinda Baby" but does have Colt Ford's "Dirt Road Anthem" remade as a duet. Gilbert's voice is too small for the rocker he wants to be, and the few lyrics that snuck into my ear were this-is-what-people-like-us-are-like country-cheerleader tedium. But the sentiments aren't bad ("Country Must Be Country Wide," which unfortunately is more about country spreading throughout the country than about about country taking in the whole country à la Big & Rich, but at least it's glad to share its sensibility with northerners and city folks), and he intends the rock moves to really rock. The rocking tracks are the ones I might return to, "Take It Outside," "Country Must Be Country Wide," and "Kick It In The Sticks" in that order, the last of which references AC/DC. Gilbert's melodies generally are good, and that's likely to be where this guy makes his impact, writing rather than singing.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 17 October 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Turns out Brantley Gilbert is on the original "Dirt Road Anthem" too. And here's the vid for "Kick It In The Sticks."

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 17 October 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

does have Colt Ford's "Dirt Road Anthem" remade as a duet

As does Aldean's imminent album My Kinda Party, oddly enough. But on one listen, I liked it less than Colt's own version (have yet to check out Gilbert's), and I liked the album less than Aldean's last one (which was far from great.) It did seem to have some intermittent promising moments, however. Have no opinion, yet, about the single.

That Toby title track single did sound suprisingly good when I heard it on the radio this week. Maybe I didn't overrate the album after all.

Only very very marginally country (and not a keeper to my ears), but here's my reviewlet of sometimes semi-billy Dwight Twilley's new album:

http://www.rhapsody.com/dwight-twilley/green-blimp#albumreview

xhuxk, Sunday, 17 October 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Short reviews I wrote of....

New Sugarland album

http://www.rhapsody.com/sugarland/the-incredible-machine#albumreview

New Dan Hicks & the Hot Licks Xmas album

http://www.rhapsody.com/dan-hicks/crazy-for-christmas#albumreview

New Girl In A Coma covers album (not country, but they come from San Antonio and cover Patsy Cline and tejano numbers, so in the neighborhood, sort of)

http://www.rhapsody.com/girl-in-a-coma/adventures-in-coverland#albumreview

Don't really recommend any of them, but find the latter two sort of charming. Definitely like the Sugarland the least of the three.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

My full review of the Sugarland album is here. It's a long-ish piece, but the gist of it is that it's all well and good to make a pop album so long as you make a good pop album, and Sugarland were perhaps too busy trying on stupid hats to remember to do that.

jon_oh, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

When I saw a promotional clip for The Incredible Machine with Nettles in a ridiculously exaggerated bustle amid a crazy stage I thought of Peter Gabriel around the time of Genesis' "Return of the Giant
Hogweed."

Gorge, Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

The Difference Engine was barely readable, though I've rarely enjoyed or even been impressed by Gibson-did like his early short stories,esp. "New Rose Hotel", though have been cos it was unusual then, and short. Or Sterling, though, long after heyday of his "cyberpunk" agitation, did enjoy his rally for librarians: "Yeah, why information here (riffles pages of book), when you can have THIS (snaps CD in two)?" I didn't mean to yell about condescending towards local efforts here a while back, sorry bout that. But, boosterism aside, I do like what Sarah Dougher said.. She's a Northwestern singer-songwriter-etc, best known via Corin Tucker's Cadallaca, a band that may not exist anymore (pretty good cowpunk-ish EP though), does have an indie coffeehouse following, and she said that whenever boondocks audience members ask her about how to get a performing career started in Seattle or Portland, she asks, "What's it like around here?" Gets them thinking about grassroots possibilties, networking, traveling, like just about everybody with any ambition or need for increased income has to do anyway,even including Seattle and Portland exemplars! So we need to encourage locals to keep up and raise standards, certainly, but some should consider staying local, or moving through the hinterlands, and not inadvertanly helping Monopoly monotony and cultural warfare re making the Big Ceety into, like, Kabul (isolation-wise)

dow, Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked that Girl in a Coma disc better than you, but I think I like them more than you do in general. I thought their last album, Trio B.C., was terrific.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

No doubt, and to make my analogy a little more readable, in this brief post: if Seattle/Nashville etc. becomes Kabul, tours are patrols, if not incursions. No doubt some already think that way, re the biz cliche, which I, Retail Boy, have heard asserted more than once: "The customer is your enemy."

dow, Sunday, 24 October 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know what Kristofferson thinks of his own voice, but he did say Wille told him he couldn't sing. I'd wondered if Willie's album of K songs might be worth checking out, but xgau, big Willie fan, that he is, nevertheless sez something like "Willie's too tactful to deliver such arrant corn." Oh well. I did used to like K's early 70s LP The Silver-Tongued Devil And I, but haven't heard it since the early 70s. Even then, when he was fairly smooth, already awesomely arhythmic; not exactly Nico, but it was kind of intriguing. Tonight, Austin City Limits is gonna debut a show with separate Robert Earl Keen/Hays Carll sets, both their bands. Lloyd Maines is among the guests on Keen's set,Ray Wylie Hubbard on Carll's It'll be be re-broadcast later in the week, at least around here, and I signed up for email reminders, can also get more info, excerpts and interviews on sustincitylimits.org. Next: Steve Martin and Steep County/Sarah Jarocz, if I spelled that right, she's now late-teen vocal & banjoist who can do some good hip-hop covers live, so here's hoping (later in Nov: Rosanne performing from The List/Brandi Carlisle)

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Needed a bump. This is as good a reason as any:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/11/01/the-logistics-song/

Gorge, Monday, 1 November 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

So has anybody noted that last week was a really big week for country stars getting divorced -- both Billy Ray Cyrus and Randy Travis, within the space of just a few days? Must be something in the Nashville water. Anyway, when I was driving back to Austin from San Antonio the other day, I caught a country station playing Randy's "Forever And Ever Amen," which I thought was amusing.

Whole bunch of Singles Jukebox review roundups (including at least one song I haven't even bothered to listen to yet):

Taylor Swift, "Back To December"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2894

Carrie Underwood, "Mama's Song"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2895

Margaret Durante, "Mississippi's Crying"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2896

Eric Church, "Smoke A Little Smoke"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2871

Brad Paisley, "Anything Like Me"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2840

Also, my Johnny Flynn album blurb, from Rhapsody:

http://www.rhapsody.com/album/been-listening?artistId=16729245#albumreview

xhuxk, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Watched CMA last night. It must not have been that good because I dozed intermittently.

The best performance was Miranda Lambert doing a bit of a boogie. Don't know what the song was called. Great, though.

Brad Paisley cried at the end. I've never been big on how people who've become ubiquitous and inescapable get publicly overcome while thanking their good fortune. He also deployed Little Jimmie Dickens for about thirty seconds, mentioning him as an inspiration or something like that.

At a point near the end the show was given over to promoting Gwyneth Paltrow and her country movie, sticking her onstage with Vince Gill to prop her up for a song called "Country Strong." The movie producers must have paid big money to get that because while the performance wasn't awful, it did put the actress in an obvious tight spot. She cringed a little during it, rightly so, probably.

Gorge, Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Act Naturally -- grizzly bears, midwest stitch Nazi, Rand Paul, other things.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/11/12/rock-roll-friday-act-naturally/

Gorge, Friday, 12 November 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Xgau on Miranda & CMA (sort of):

Due to its pyromaniac title song, which with its fierce beat and snarly vocal was taken more literally than its lyric warranted, "Kerosene" created more stir in New York than Nashville, and far from letting up, "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" was fiercer: damn near as angry as one of those stupid anti-A-Rab albums that preceded our unfortunate Iraq adventure. In the lead track Lambert shoots up a boyfriend who'd beaten her down; in the title song she sanely leaves her pistol in the car in the role of the crazy ex. But songs such as "Desperation," "More Like Her" and the painfully conflicted "Guilty in Here" offset hot-bloodedness with self-doubt. It's the most consistent country album of the '00s as well as the feistiest.

Chuck-bait.

hey look at me i'm a drunken asshole, how 'bout that huh? (Ioannis), Saturday, 13 November 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, forgot the link to that:

http://music.msn.com/cma-awards/miranda-lambert/story/feature/

hey look at me i'm a drunken asshole, how 'bout that huh? (Ioannis), Saturday, 13 November 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The new Sugarland settled with the old Sugarland for an undisclosed amount. I would assume they set her up for life.

Gorge, Sunday, 14 November 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Dave Moore writes about The Guitar Song over on Tumblr, and asks for advice, if you want to go visit him and give some:

Have slept on Jamey Johnson, like most innernet-hyped country, until listening on a whim to The Guitar Song, an eclectic group of what I’d probably describe as "tour songs," the kind of inventive but casual, semi-formalist numbers w/ ample room for jamming in the empty spaces, that seem to go hand in hand with writing on the road.

So I'm hearing it as a series of song sketches, some pretty well sketched-out, some not needing the sketching-out and some benefitting from the vagueness that the sketchiness grants them (like the borderline-deplorable "California Riots," whose extended improvs and lack of detail in the verses keep me from noticing so acutely how racist it may be. He's coy in providing no detail whatsoever to explain which "half" of California will be doing the rioting).

I like it slightly unformed (I imagine his other stuff isn't quite so loose), but what else should I check out? Hating his dips into inevitable maudlin sentiment on occasion (though that's rare) but in the context of 20-some other songs I don't mind. I could imagine that three out of twelve songs being like that would be a bit of a deal-breaker, though.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

He's coy in providing no detail whatsoever to explain which "half" of California will be doing the rioting).

The political division in California is coastie/westie. If you live in the interior to the western
side of the state, you're a white hick/Tea Party type whose district has enough of your own and been gerrymandered so that the local Latinos still can't unseat you.

If you're on the coast/in the cities -- except for San Diego which is all natsec industry and GOP -- you've run the GOP out of the place.

Perhaps he's recalling the Latino rallies that occur from time to time in LA, usually in objection to something the heevahavas have tried to do nationwide or next door.

Gorge, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe I'm taking the word "literally" too literally in Xgau's blurb, but I don't think anyone in NY or elsewhere claimed that "Kerosene" was actually about setting fires. But in the context of commercial country, the lyric "Life ain't hard but it's too long, livin' like some country song" is pretty incendiary (figuratively speaking), or at least ought to be. Also, the fact that, as a major-label debut, Kerosene debuted at number one on the country charts, means it probably created more stir in Nashville than in Manhattan. That said, if you take Xgau to be figuratively making the point that hints of nihilistic discontent are the sorts of things that the 30 or so NY bohemians and hard rock fans who care about about country tend to lap up, he's right on target.

I do think Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is Miranda's most consistent album and very good, would probably only rate Montgomery Gentry's Carrying On and Toby Keith's White Trash With Money as more consistent in the '00s. Consistency isn't my prime criterion, however, and I'd definitely rate the not-quite-as-consistent Horse Of A Different Color and Taylor Swift and Fearless over Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and White Trash With Money (whereas Carrying On was my number one country album of the decade and my number two of any type).

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually hadn't read that entire Christgau paragraph until now. (And still haven't read the entire piece.) I'm not really bothered either by his calling Miranda's second the most consistent country album of the decade -- though, like Frank, I don't quite agree with him. It's close enough, and consistent enough, that it's not worth splitting hairs. I also can't tell, from that quote, if Xgau is suggesting the "Kerosene" single or the Kerosene album were bigger in NY than Nashville; not sure why he would believe that either is true. The single went to #15 on the country chart, looks like. But yeah, maybe I'm reading him too literally as well.

As for Jamey Johnson, maybe Dave Moore should read my Voice piece, and the ILX thread on the record. They're linked upthread somewhere. I made the point about Johnson not spelling out which half of California riots in the song (one of the album's best tracks) months ago. But suggesting it's "racist" is an odd leap, I'd say. And though I've got my reservations about the album (it'll likely make the bottom of Pazz & Jop top 10), it doesn't seem "unformed" to me at all, really -- if anything, it sounds meticulous. And I'd say Guitar Song's best cuts are as good or better than Lonesome Song's best, outside of "High Cost of Living."

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, re-reading it (even more sleepily than the first time I read it), Christgau's clearly talking about Kerosene-the-album when he makes that claim. Which confuse me even more: The single at least placed (27th) in Pazz & Jop; the album only got a couple votes (including Frank's and mine), I'm pretty sure. So what stir it's supposed to have created in New York is beyond me.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

...confuses me even more...(etc.) (And "created more stir" is not necessarily the same thing as "bigger," I suppose.)

Eh..Do I really think "California Riots" is as good as "In Color" or "Mary Go Round"? Possibly not. And I now have no doubt that the previous album drags more than the new one, though I definitely liked it more at the time, when I called it my album of the year. Really I'd say "California Riots" is in Guitar Song's second tier (actually prefer the other California song, "Playing The Part", though I'm fairly convinced Jamey J is a part-player by nature and hence something of a hypocrite to make it an issue.) But anyway, my favorites and least favorites are pretty much all spelled out in detail on the album's own thread. Then again, I'm a time-proven sucker for songs about escaping to, then from, California. (Did almost a whole chapter about those in my second book.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link

actually, i should have specified that what i was really wondering about was what you guys made of the following:

damn near as angry as one of those stupid anti-A-Rab albums that preceded our unfortunate Iraq adventure

i mean, is that specifically a dig at Toby Keith, or am i forgetting something else that was all "rah-rah, let's get 'em, but good" back then?

sorry for being a nuisance, but since i'm kinda assuming that you guys are ilx's biggest Keith supporters, i was wondering how that struck you.

hey look at me i'm a drunken asshole, how 'bout that huh? (Ioannis), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

"I'm wonderin'..."

hey look at me i'm a drunken asshole, how 'bout that huh? (Ioannis), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Just Bob being Bob. Though Toby actually did an arguably pro-A-rab song, too: "The Taliban Song." at least as funny as Ray Stevens in 1962. Maybe Xgau was referring to Daryl Worley's Have You Forgotten, though? Or the Alan Jackson 9-11 song where he said he didn't know the difference between Iraq and Iran? There were others, I'm sure. But calling them anti-Arab is probably stretching things, in almost all cases. (At least compared the one non-country demo-CD submission some idiot sent me for the 9-11 compilation CD I put together for the Voice that actually raged against "towel heads" and "camel jockeys." Specifics about that one, and other submissions -- some of which were good -- though, are lost to history. Probably I should have kept a box of notable ones from no-name bands and singers I'd never heard of; put together, they'd have made for an educational CD-R for future generations.)

Anyway, Xgau's Worley review:

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Daryl+Worley

And here is on Toby, fwiw:

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Toby+Keith

Pretty sure Montgomery Gentry never really dealt with the Middle East problem; Frank or somebody should remind me, if I'm wrong. (Hank Jr., maybe? I'm not sure.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

So Keith Urban has a new album? I'm a bit out of it right now. Anyone heard it? The last one was kind of a snooze though I ended up liking all the singles when I heard them on the radio.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that That Lonesome Song has a pretty loose feel itself (the "High Cost Of Living" stretches out at the end, could have easily been a minute longer - or a minute shorter, I suppose).

Favorite mention of the Middle East is in Eric Church's "Before She Does," which I'm not going to quote because it sets up a refrain that's my favorite wisecrack of the last several years, and I don't what to spoilerate it; here's the link.

Maybe Xgau meant that the album stirred him. Or maybe creating a stir in Chuck was equivalent to creating a stir in NY. Think that Joshua Clover also voted for Kerosene, and maybe several other folks did as well. Not that Joshua lived in NY. But as I said, I think I get what Xgau was driving at, and agree, even though what he said was literally incorrect.

Agree with Chuck about the rockingness of Flynnville Train's "Sandman." Also like the Rihanna track with the same title. (Well, almost the same title. She drops the final two letters.)

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

So Keith Urban has a new album? I'm a bit out of it right now. Anyone heard it? The last one was kind of a snooze though I ended up liking all the singles when I heard them on the radio.

The last one, Defying Gravity, is my favorite of his actually, and this one so far I'm finding a snooze, very by-the-numbers. I need to listen to it more, though. It's only 8 songs, unless you buy it at Target, where they throw on some live tracks and other 'bonuses' and presumably charge more money.

Is country music struggling with the album format these days? (Or some strain of country music at least, Jamey Johnson obviously excepted). That's what I've been wondering lately, between this and Blake Shelton's Six-Paks (which he now is rejecting as a bad idea, from an interview I read) and an interview I read with Trace Adkins where he said that he's changed his approach to the album somewhat after hanging out with Toby Keith, basically (if I'm remembering right) because Toby convinced him that albums themselves don't matter that much anymore, that it's more about tours and name recognition and people knowing who you are, and having a few hit singles every now and then.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't read either of those interviews (which sound like they might be enlightening, and suggest why Toby put out his shortest album ever this year), and I'm out of the Billboard loop of late, but I'd guess that country is having similar struggles with the album format to the ones every other genre is having these days -- I talked way upthread (early this year) a few times about the return of EP-length records to the country album chart, but actually, the new Flo-Rida album only has eight songs on it, too. And Toby's right -- increasingly, the assumption is that, for all but very top-tier artists anyway, album sales aren't where the revenue is going to come from the future. So country albums -- a lot of them (not Brad Paisley's or Taylor Swift's either, I guess) seem to be reverting more to the length that albums used to be back before CDs messed everything up, and in some cases back to the length country albums were way back in the '60s. Which, to me, more often than not, tends to make them more user friendly (I'm more likely to check out that new Urban now that you've said it's got only eight songs), but then I tend to be able to listen to albums for free. (Then again, so do other people now, just not legally. Which is a big part of the problem in the first place, obviously.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Or maybe I should say "very top-tier artists and other people" -- seems like the uncertainty about album sales' future has freed guys like Jamey Johnson and Jerrod Niemann (and Paisley) up to experiment with albums that seem structured as more formally top-to-bottom conceptual than Nashville's traditionally given us, in hopes that maybe press or alternative radio or something might spurn long-term sales for (older?) folks who actually want to own the object. Johnson's vinyl version is a sight to behold, believe me, but a lot of thought even went into his CD's packaging. I got sent the new Randy Houser album on vinyl, too, fwiw, not that I expect many people will care. And you'll probably see some artists (like Shelton?) going back and forth, to see what works best for them.

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 08:06 (thirteen years ago) link

...SPUR (not spurn) long-term sales...., that is.

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 08:08 (thirteen years ago) link

other really short albums: lady gaga's "the fame monster" (eight songs). ke$ha's new one (nine songs). i guess there is some struggling with the album format going on, but i like to think of it more as a general opening up of the album/ep/single format. if you don't see the point of a 12- or 14- or 16-track album, you don't have to do it anymore just for the sake of filling up the goddamn disc. if you want to do a couple quickie 8-track things in a row like robyn, you can do that. if you want do a 25-song double like jamey johnson, you can do that too. and if you want to keep motoring along with more-than-competent 12-songers like alan jackson, that always remains an option. i think this is good for music.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 18 November 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm foggy on the specifics of this, but in the old days (or maybe even recently), wasn't nashville's standard album length based partly, if not completely, on how many songs the labels were willing to pay publishing royalties on? if that was the case, as i'm pretty sure if it was, and if that has changed in the digital-or-whatever age, then that's probably good too.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 18 November 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, the Gaga and Ke$ha ones are sort of special cases in that they're both also available as double-discs with the previous album attached, in case you're not among the millions who already bought that one. But right, that's just one more option that's out there.

Also, fwiw, Toby Keith is still a top-tier artist -- but mainly on the touring front. So that's apparently where he's putting his energies, and maybe he now thinks of albums and occasional hits as mainly tour promotion, via keeping his name in the spotlight.

Anyway, here is my review blurb on the new Rascal Flatts album, which (mainly for tracks 7 through 10), I liked more than expected:

http://www.rhapsody.com/rascal-flatts/nothing-like-this-2#albumreview

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"Traktor by Wretch 32 ft. L. Not country (the guy is a Brit dancehall-grime-pop amalgam, if that's the right terminology (I can never keep up)), but contains the line "I rides* the motherfuckin' beat like a tractor." Don't know if there have been any other noncountry songs to mention tractors, much less to be named for one. Actually, the techno rhythm right at the start does have its ancestry (or at least predecessors) in pre-surf hillbilly guitar boogies, though it isn't played on guitar, I don't think.

*Actually sounds more like "I writes motherfuckin' beat like a tractor," but that makes less sense, since I've never thought of plowing as like writing, or "choo-choo" as descriptive of the process of writing. (In the vid, they actually do write some lyrics on the wall, and maybe are trying to write, hence say, "ride this," but the pronunciation is so condensed it sounds like "rides.")

I writes motherfuckin' blog posts like a tractor.

Choo choo blog hard blog faster, stack pieces everyday. I writes zoom zoom like a rock 'n' roll. More women more bloggin' all day.

(Wretch 32's Facebook: "His slick word play to embed satire into lyrics has made him a firm favourite among DJ's and captured the heart of audiences not only in the Uk but across Europe.")

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Conversely (or not conversely) my uninformed impression is that in Japan and Korea, where piracy is even more rampant than it is here, singles as such are no longer released alone - at least not by idol groups - but instead are released as mini-albums with several other songs plus the usual remixes and instrumental/karaoke tracks, so they're 8 or 9 tracks too, sometimes with the mini-album title being different from the single title.

But I assume that most actual singles sales there as here would be by mp3 download of the single track alone.

The reason I assume that piracy is even more rampant in Korea and Japan is that, whenever I google just for information on a particular song, most or all of the first ten Google hits will be illegal download sites featuring links to Mediafire or 4shared or Megaupload or Hotfile - this without my typing "mp3" or "download" or "Mediafire" into the search box. Of course, come to think of it, since I'm searching with Romanized spelling and getting mostly English-language sites, maybe these sites are for the diaspora, not for people actually living in Korea or Japan. In any event, this doesn't happen with U.S. artists, where searches get you lyric sites and vids up-top.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 November 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I very much doubt that Christgau was referencing Toby, since not only did Xgau find the song heartfelt, there's nothing anti-Arab in it (and anyway Arabic isn't the native language of Afghanistan, though it probably is for some of the Al Qaeda types who hung out there).

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 November 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Lady Antebellum rips off Alan Parsons Project? (I'm not sure I hear a similarity, but I haven't heard "Eye In The Sky" for years):

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/ourcountry/75288/lady-antebellums-need-you-nowa-ripoff/

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Anthony Easton on Tim McGraw's "Felt Good On My Lips":

http://koganbot.livejournal.com/244900.html?view=1695908#t1695908

Frank Kogan, Friday, 19 November 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, in reference to Anthony's comment, Toby Keith and George Strait were far from the only country singers who did songs about Mexico in recent years -- So did lots of other people, including, well, Tim McGraw, with both "Refried Dreams" and "Señorita Margarita." (Fwiw, I did a couple-thousand-word essay on the subject two years ago, for Time Out's 1000 Songs To Change Your Life book.) Do agree, though, that McGraw's mostly a smoothie who's not as given to loud stuff as many country dudes his age. (I say something similar both in my Jukebox comments about the song below, and in a review of his new hits CD, out next week I think.)

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2904

Somebody who has been rocking increasingly hard lately is Reba. She's surprised me two albums straight now. About her new one:

http://www.rhapsody.com/reba-mcentire/all-the-women-i-am#albumreview

(That one word should be "speaker-blowing," btw; I'll need to fix it in the Rhapsody tools.)

xhuxk, Friday, 19 November 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Well this seems like it might be good. I
ll have to check out the UK online show.
(Nashville, Tenn. – Sept. 27, 2010)  Country music lifestyle site DigitalRodeo.com and London-based, online Country radio station CMR Nashville have announced the formation of a strategic media partnership and resulting international radio show called “Digital Rodeo’s Maverick On Music Row.”
The one-hour radio show is recorded at Nashville’s legendary 16 Ton Studios and will broadcast online at
www.CMRNashville.com.  The first episode airs Tuesday, Sept. 28, with repeat airings throughout the week.  Former Mavericks bassist and current Digital Rodeo executive, Robert Reynolds, hosts the program, which features a mix of major label and independent Country acts selected from the thousands of artists registered on DigitalRodeo.com.  Interviews, unplugged live performances and creative play lists are points of emphasis on “Digital Rodeo’s Maverick On Music Row,” says Reynolds.  Archived episodes of the show will be available on DR Radio, the free online radio player featured at
www.DigitalRodeo.com. Check
www.CMRNashville.com for specific local air times.
“There are a ton of talented acts out there that never get radio play,” says Digital Rodeo Director of Marketing and Promotions, John Pyne.  “Our goal is to provide those artists with a viable outlet for their music to be heard on the radio, and to expose the listeners to a much broader variety than what’s heard on most Country radio stations.  We welcome any and all Digital Rodeo artists with radio-quality material to submit their music for inclusion on our show.”
Adds Reynolds, “We want to be one of the first doors that open for these artists in terms of radio.  Digital Rodeo is fortunate to partner with a station like CMR Nashville to foster that kind of international relationship and growth.  We are looking forward to putting out a show that is unique in both its concept and its programming.”
As part of the Digital Rodeo and CMR Nashville strategic partnership, Digital Rodeo is sponsoring one of the awards at the upcoming British Country Music Awards, to be held Oct. 10, 2010, in Surrey, England.
Artists interested in submitting music for “Digital Rodeo’s Maverick On Music Row” radio program should contact John Pyne at
j✧✧✧.p✧✧✧@digitalro✧✧✧.c✧✧.
About DigitalRodeo.com:
DigitalRodeo.com is the premier country news, music and lifestyle site for country music fans everywhere.  Community membership is free and offers fans and artists alike the opportunity to connect with each other, upload and download audio and video, watch exclusive DigitalRodeo.com content and stay updated on what’s happening in the world of country music.  For more information, visit
www.DigitalRodeo.com.
CMR Nashville is celebrating its fifth year broadcasting 24/7 from the U.K.  CMR Nashville broadcasts a variety of programming, including Nashville-based WSM’s “Music City Roots” and “Bluegrass Underground,” Texas’ “CDTEX Show,” “American Driver Show,” “Café Nashville” and shows from Germany, France, Brazil, Canada and Australia.  The company also offers three additional stations of DJ-free music: CMR Hot, CMR Memories and CMR Americana.  CMR Nashville, CMR Hot, CMR Memories, and CMR Americana are the trademarks of Django Promotions.  CMR Nashville is licensed annually by PRS for Music.  Visit
www.CMRNashville.com for more information.

 

dow, Friday, 19 November 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Dave Erasingclouds (his indigenous name) just wrote a thoughtful piece on country singers in Mexico:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/132614-mexico-state-of-mind/

Definitely still going strong, and may be the same Mexico that Sammy Hagar sings about.

dr. phil, Friday, 19 November 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Huh, interesting. Great minds (and mediocre ones like me too sometimes) think alike, apparently. Wonder if Dave has ever seen my essay on the same subject. (I'd link to it, but I don't think it's anywhere on line. Book only came out in the UK too, I believe.)

Looks like others (albeit listmakers more than essayists) have dealt with the same topic as well. (The Rhapsody playlist is not by me, and it's from before I got there):

http://www.rhapsody.com/playlistcentral/playlistdetail?playlistId=ply.20277597

http://www.truecountry.com/forums/showthread.php?3062-Country-songs-about-Mexico

http://travelojos.com/2009/11/seven-country-songs-about-mexico/

Btw, listened to the new Reba again in the car today, and actually, I'm basically liking three non-rockers ("The Day She Got Divorced" which always makes me think of Abba's "The Day Before You Came," the Beyonce cover, and maybe "When Love Gets Ahold Of You" which is just super catchy if kinda so-what-wordwise pop-country) more than the three rockers I mentioned in that Rhapsody blurb (at least two of which are as much horn-rock as riff-rock, fwiw, though the riffs in "Turn On The Radio" always make me think of Stevie Wonder's "Higher Ground" and Rare Earth.) There's something missing in her rock ones I can't quite put my finger on; maybe I just wish they were more interesting as songs, or maybe Reba's voice by nature makes boogie seem kinda stodgy, I dunno. I've definitely had that feeling about her before. Here's what I wrote about the previous album, and its single, that she made last year:

http://www.rhapsody.com/reba-mcentire/keep-on-loving-you#albumreview

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=694

Still like the new album enough to keep it, though. And I definitely approve of the idea of her doing more rock-type stuff.

xhuxk, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I like "Strange", where she slides the title through a bending note, like Patti Smith or Jim Morrison (close enough). Finally heard Chely Wright's album, and it really knocked me out right away. When I first heard that familiar mid-tempo chug, I thought for a moment it was gonna be too musically straight, with pop-psychology shadows and positivity, but the first song quickly unfolded into complex clarity, and the music is luminous, it's all seamless, chugging those detailed lyrics right along. Not just, "Look, this is how mainstream country could be, incorporating this stuff we haven't talked about", but, "This is it, this works now." I would like room for a big ol' righteous yowly slide guitar solo in "Damn Liar", and maybe some more instrumental kick-out-the-walls in other songs, and it seems a bit dicey that so many of the songs are probably that voice in her head. But there's room for interpretation, especially the last track, so nice and sensuous and welcoming the instruments to crawl into and around the bed she's perching on, while she addresses whomever it may concern (and that punchline in passing, yow). Liked Merle's and Willie's latest, and some others I may comment on, but they'll all benefit from above viewpoints re EPs as country albums, like country LPs used to be EPs. Chely needs no such adjustments of judgment (good rhapsodyblog on her xhuxx. Tthat Jon C. thing in the Times was already the slackest thing I'd read by him, even before I got to his obtuse take on Chely. Most disappointing media experience since Rachel Maddow's interview with Jon Stewart. But thank you Jon and Jon, for showing me I'm still naive enough to be disappointed by such thangs

dow, Monday, 22 November 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad you liked my Chely post, Don. (At least I wrote about something better than Jon C this year.) Anyway, I've been going back and forth about her album all year -- was leaning toward thinking it was too inconsistent to deserve space on a year-end list, but I gave it another chance in the car last week (same day I listened to Reba), and it really held up -- way more of it than I'd figured would. And I'm still noticing new things, like the line about the Nashville tomboy and the feminine girl (or however she puts it) in the one song she merely co-wrote (with Rodney Crowell.) A shame more people didn't hear the record, but then again a lot of it is so personal that you get the idea the only person who Chely really wanted to hear it was the woman who wound up spurning her. If there's ever been a better lesbian breakup album in country-music history, I'd love to know what it is. So anyway, I'm thinking there's an excellent chance now that Lifted Off The Ground will make the bottom rung of my Pazz & Jop list; was leaning toward early '80s Louisville art-punks The Endtables (rectified by Drag City this year) there, but I think Chely's got it.

With Thanksgiving (and my 50th birthday) coming, other country albums that will almost definitely make my 2010 Pazz & Jop: Taylor Swift, Jace Everett, Jamey Johnson, Flynnville Train. (And Luther Lackey, if you stretch the country definition around his Southern soul blues.) Country singles likely to make my ballot, at this point: Sunny Sweeney "From A Table Away," Mallary Hope "Blossom In The Dust," Laura Bell Bundy "Giddy On Up," Kenny Chesney "Somewhere With You." (And again, if you stretch genre definitions some, Intocable "Estamos En Alqo.") If Flynnville's "Sandman" was a single, I'd probably consider that too, but far as I can tell it's not.

xhuxk, Monday, 22 November 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Huh, interesting. Great minds (and mediocre ones like me too sometimes) think alike, apparently. Wonder if Dave has ever seen my essay on the same subject. (I'd link to it, but I don't think it's anywhere on line. Book only came out in the UK too, I believe.)

I hadn't seen it! I'll have to look for that. I did figure other people had written on the subject before but didn't look for articles. I was thinking about the subject a lot this year, partly because for a while each new country album I listened to seemed to have another song referencing a Mexican vacation. Also my real-world (non-music-related) day job is at a nonprofit that does work in Mexico, so I have been very aware of the violence there this year.

erasingclouds, Monday, 22 November 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

this one so far I'm finding a snooze, very by-the-numbers. I need to listen to it more, though.

By the way, this new Keith Urban album is a lot better than I made it sound above. Now that I've listened a few times, I'm really enjoying it. It's fun. There are two songs that reference singing along to a car radio, and that seems like the feeling he's going for. The second of those songs, Long Hot Summer, is especially good, with a very 80s-pop start (reminds of something particular but I haven't put a finger on it - the Police? or the Cars maybe? not sure yet) before the big rousing chorus. Also like the power ballad about falling in love in the 'Georgia woods', which gets pretty rocking and guitar solo-heavy near the end, and the ballad about how his wife is the best because she lets him spend his time with fast cars and loud guitars (or something like that).

erasingclouds, Monday, 22 November 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

If Flynnville's "Sandman" was a single
In this Age of Fiberglass, I mean Downloads, almost everything is in effect released as a single (except a few Album Only teasers, on Amazon anyway). That's pretty much the point, even though pulled like teeth, minus gas, from "majoe labels." And what's Himes gonna do, send your ballot back?

dow, Thursday, 25 November 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, I meant marjoe labels o course.

dow, Thursday, 25 November 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Now on Listening Party: Tim McGraw's Number One Hits (24 of 'em)
http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/#/2

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually reviewed that album for rollingstone.com:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/69206/238458

As for "Sandman" (and everything else) sort of being a single, yeah, I get that, Don. But I still prefer sticking (and prefer other people sticking) to songs that were at least somehow promoted as singles -- on radio, on video channels, as actual standalone physical objects, as top-song-on-a-band's-MySpace-page, whatever. (Plus, I'm voting for Flynnville Train's album, probably, so also voting for a random track that wasn't even conceived as a single by the band seems both redundant and counter to the spirit in which the polls were conceived.) If it's promoted as a single a year later (a la Jamey J's "High Cost Of Living") I'll consider it, though.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

y'all really need to see/hear/comment on this:

Staind "goes country" and holy hell is it ever awful

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, cameo by George Jones.

The guy drives an old army truck and shoots white-tail deer. He's a bit too ugly for CMT but it could still happen. He fits the artist profile, the one in which all the guy's who've assiduously avoided charging off to war with their guns, brawn and beliefs in-not-treading-on-me beat their chests about how military and freedom-minded they are.

Funny how that worked its way into such a comical but true stereotype.

Gorge, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

and slightly bigger cameo by charlie daniels.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Never heard of Belmont University, a Christian School in Nashville, until five days ago, when it became news that the soccer coach, a lesbian, had been forced out after telling the team that she and her girlfriend were going to have a baby. (Apparently she'd asked the administration in advance for permission to tell the team, since she knew the fact would come out eventually, and she wanted the team to hear it from her. When the news was abroad without her getting permission, she went ahead and told the team anyway, she says. My info here is from the Nashville Tennessean.) The soccer team has protested her being driven away; so has the faculty senate. And so has a very prominent donor, one who has an event center and a music business school on campus named after him. He's publicly told the administration to "act like Christians" and rehire her. The donor's name: Mike Curb.

Never knew much about him; did recall that he's LeAnn's and lots of other people's label boss and that he had a reactive cleancut image in the hairy Sixties and took anti-drug stances that included dropping the Velvet Underground when he was with MGM Records. Apparently his support for gay rights has been longstanding; at least, as an ultimately successful Republican candidate for lieutenant governor of California in the late '70s, he opposed an initiative to ban gays from teaching in California public schools. In a letter to Belmont's faculty senate, he wrote, "Belmont's Curb College is the largest stand alone music business college in the nation and more than half of Belmont's students study either the music business or music in general. All of us know that there are gay students at Belmont who are also very concerned. When our students enter the workforce, they will be entering an industry where gay people have made incredible contributions."

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 12 December 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.mikecurb.com/about/bio.cfm

Hah -- he actually wrote "Burning Bridges," the theme to Kelly's Heroes. I always liked that tune.

According to this he's quite the philanthropist.

Gorge, Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I usually see Belmont's annual Christmas special, with choir, chorus, guest stars some years; also orchestra, with subsection string band students doing Southern traditional seasonal music, overall pretty good variety, in decorous way. Didn't get that they were a Christian university, hope this all gets straightened out, although a legal settlement is prob the best she can hope for. Didn't mean some "random track" xhuxx, just the ones that matter, esp re singling out keepers from dud-heavy albums. Also, sure do hear a lot of albums that would make good EPs this year, and an actual EP or two may well make my country albums list, as they certainly will appear on my P&J.

dow, Monday, 13 December 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

She resigned under pressure, which means she probably wouldn't get anything from a lawsuit; but the issue is now political rather than legal. I think the faculty vote to have her reinstated was unanimous. But maybe she doesn't want to go back if it's under the same supervision.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 13 December 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sandman" would make my top ten if it were a single (or a track that was getting some sort of significant push or attention, which it's not, unfortunately, except from us). If my country ballot were due today this is what singles and albums would look like.

SINGLES
1. Little Big Town "Little White Church"
2. Sunny Sweeney "From A Table Away"
3. Martina McBride "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong"
4. Trace Adkins "Ala-Freakin-Bama"
5. Laura Bell Bundy "Giddy On Up"
6. Stealing Angels "He Better Be Dead"
7. Sarah Darling "Whenever It Rains"
8. Miranda Lambert "Only Prettier"
9. Brad Paisley "Water"
10. Sarah Darling "With Or Without You"

Still debating the order of the first two, and the last several could easily be replaced by any of the following (esp. since I consider Sarah Darling a bit too wet, and not just because she comes right after "Water"): Miranda Lambert "The House That Built Me," Kenny Chesney "Ain't Back Yet," Jerrod Niemann "Lover, Lover," Martin Ramey "Twisted," Jake Owen "Tell Me," Kenny Chesney "Somewhere With You," Jaron And The Long Road To Love "Pray For You," Randy Montana "Ain't Much Left Of Lovin' You," Eric Church "Smoke A Little Smoke," Luke Bryan "Someone Else Calling You Baby," Gretchen Wilson "I Got Your Country Right Here," Los Lobos "Burn It Down," Blaine Larsen "Leavin'," Dierks Bentley "Draw Me A Map," Tim McGraw "Felt Good On My Lips," Toby Keith "Bullets In The Gun," Taylor Swift "Speak Now," Taylor Swift "Mean," The Band Perry "If I Die Young," Jason Aldean ft. Kelly Clarkson "Don't You Wanna Stay," and presumably a bunch of others that I might run into in the next three weeks - though I'm not feeling the need to search too hard, as I'm fine with my choices already. Albums are a different story.

ALBUMS
1. Taylor Swift Speak Now
2. Chely Wright Lifted Off The Ground
3. Mumford & Sons, Laura Marling, Dharohar Project Mumford & Sons, Laura Marling, Dharohar Project (EP)
4. Flynnville Train Redemption

Pending: Kenny Chesney, Jamey Johnson, and beyond that I need your suggestions, though from upthread I gather that Jerrod Niemann and Laura Bell Bundy are worth some listens. Would like to get Redemption off the list, actually. Its other standout track is "Friend Of Sinners," an effectively evocative plea for redemption. Interesting that the Flynnvillers rock and evoke the shit out of lame-ass "Sandman" but fall short on their outfront rockers: rock 'em nicely, but need singing that's either tougher or more desperate than they can manage. I do recommend "Home," "Preachin' To The Choir," and "Scratch Me Where I'm Itchin'" and think most of the rest are good songs that needed more from the frontman.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Geoffrey doesn't count EPs, but not for the first time I'm ignoring his instructions. I generally had a negative impression of Mumford & Sons - the singer's a strained and emphatic folkie in a way I find irritating. But a friend was giving me a lift a few weeks ago, and her teenage son was in the back enthusiastically singing along, knowing almost all the words, as Mumford & Sons played in the deck. He said, "They're really depressing, but in a way that's uplifting." That incident didn't turn me around, but it did get me to check further, which is how I uncovered the EP. The Mumford song and the Marling song are carried into new territory by India Indians who add their own fierce warbles and instrumentation, with the Mumford picking and strumming driving things right along. Actually, it's the Mumford and Marling compositions that lead the charge here.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

This is almost definitely my NashScene singles and albums ballot. Think Flynnville is solider (and their singer more effective) than Frank does, though agree "Friend Of Sinnners" is the second-best (not to mention second-most rocking) track. Pretty sure I wrote about some of the other songs either upthread, or on Rolling Hard Rock, or both. (Also, I was surprised to like the Mumford/Marling/ Dharohar song that Frank put on his most recent mix CD, though I haven't liked anything I've heard by Marling or the Mumfords individually. Though Marling also makes an appearance on this year's album by Johnny Flynn, which I thought was pretty good.) Anyway:

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2010: (first five will almost definitely also make my Pazzz & Jop ballot)

1. Taylor Swift – Speak Now (Big Machine)
2. Jace Everett – Red Revelations (Western Boys/Hump Head)
3. Jamey Johnson – The Guitar Song (Mercury)
4. Flynnville Train – Redemption (Evolution)
5. Chely Wright – Lifted Off The Ground (Vanguard)
6. Laura Bell Bundy – Achin’ & Shakin’ (Mercury)
7. Lee Brice – Love Like Crazy (Curb)
8. Colt Ford – Chicken And Biscuits (Average Joe’s)
9. Kenny Chesney – Hemingway's Whiskey (BNA)
10. Jerrod Niemann – Judge Jerrod And The Hung Jury (Sea Gayle/Arista Nashville)

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2010: (first three will almost definitely also make my Pazz & Jop ballot):

1. Sunny Sweeney – From a Table Away
2. Mallary Hope – Blossom In The Dust
3. Laura Bell Bundy – Giddy On Up
4. Kenny Chesney – Somewhere With You
5. Lady Antebellum – Stars Tonight
6. Eric Church – Smoke A Little Smoke
7. Martina McBride – Wrong Baby Wrong
8. Stealing Angels – He Better Be Dead
9. Little Big Town – Little White Church
10. Kevin Fowler – Pound Sign (#?*!)

xhuxk, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

My next seven country albums after those would look like something like this (could make the list even longer, but I'd say after these ones, things get pretty marginal, if they aren't already):

11. Shinyribs – Well After Awhile (Nine Mile)
12. Ray Wylie Hubbard – A. Enlightenment B. Endarkment (Hint: There Is No C) (Thirty Tigers/Bordello)
13. Trace Adkins – Cowboy’s Back In Town (Universal)
14. Merle Haggard - I Am What I Am (Vanguard)
15. Stone River Boys – Love On The Dial (Cow Island)
16. Randy Houser – They Call Me Cadillac (Show Dog)
17. Elizabeth Cook – Welder (Thirty Tigers)

xhuxk, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still sorting out my final NS ballot, but does anyone have any recommendations for reissues? I typically try to stay on top of those, but that's my biggest blind spot for the year, outside of the Hank Williams Mother's Best set.

jon_oh, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

My probable reissue ballot looks pretty ridiculous. I almost considered just pissing in the wind with five old vinyl country albums that I bought for $1 this year, but right now I'm leaning toward something like this:

TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2010:
1. (Various) – Fire In My Bones: Raw + Rare + Otherworldly African-American Gospel [1944-2007] (Tompkins Square)
2. Slim Cessna’s Auto Club – Buried Behind The Barn (Alternative Tentacles)
3. Ashley Hutchings, Richard Thompson, Dave Mattacks, John Kirkpatrick, Barry Dransfield – Morris On (Fledg’ling)
4. (Various) – Classic Appalachian Blues (Smithsonian Folkways)
5. Jeff Eubank – A Street Called Straight (Drag City)

And oh yeah, I once again disqualified sundry 2010 Southern Soul (i.e., Luther Lackey, who'll make my Pazz & Jop albums ballot), regional Mexican (i.e., Intocable, who'll make my Pazz & Jop singles ballot), and white guiar blues (i.e., Tim Woods) records from Nashville Scene ballot consideration, though in a slow year (see: my reissues list), I might well have decided otherwise.

xhuxk, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been on something of a country / acoustic blues kick this year-- thanks, at least in part, to the Ray Wylie Hubbard album that I have in my top 10-- so 4. (Various) – Classic Appalachian Blues (Smithsonian Folkways) caught my attention. What's on that one?

jon_oh, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Tim McGraw's Number One Hits might make my reissues, although I def agree with xxuxk's Rolling Stone review, linked upthread, that reaching Number One sometimes shears off too many possibilities. I prefer Elvis's collected Top Tens to his Number Ones, and it may be that if you get however many volumes of Greatest Hits McG is up to now, you'll do better than with this, but I do enjoy most of it. The MSN Listening Booth download may have jumbled the intended order of tracks, judging by the way they're listed by xxhuk's review, so I got clobbered by front-loaded "live Like You Were Dying" (in a real expensive way, although the dying one's parting words are "I hope one day you can do this too" yeah bro, um got some gold buried at the ol swimmin hole,mebbe?) and "Don't Take My Girl" and some other stuff that would be much more digestible with music that conveyed the urgent neeeed for such soothing. But we do get just that on many other tracks, where he gets more into the struggle for balance, perspective, but also self-justification, as in "Angry All The Time", and just trying to sing his way through all that shit, all those talking points, on "Please Remember Me." But I like some of the suave ballads and def the yee-haw stuff too, where he gives his band and his own light touch (unusual with the yee-haw, Brad Paisley aside) some tonic.

dow, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Also for reissues: Granma's or Grandma's Roadhouse, mainly cos I'm a sucker for sustain, and Gary Stewart's got it here ( sort of the same feel as CCR's version of "Suzie Q"), but also some okay songwriting, main limitation is that other guy's squeezebox vocals; if Gary got to sing lead, oh maiiiinn.. And Hamper McBee's The Good Old-Fashioned Way. Supposedly his authentic moonshine-cured vocal delivery was "revelatory" to folkies in the mid-60s, but these late 70s field recordings are mostly down to his good taste in choice of deep folk standards, plus he does feel 'em, and deftly rolls notes through the gaps in his teeth, and he does have some I haven't heard, and he's got good bad taste, or rather good no taste, in his anecdotal outbursts, also some x-rated songs, which are themselves quite prob deep folk standards to those who truly know, like hee-um. They really fit, and extend the canon (also the cannon, he's prob add) in a cheering way, at least to me.

dow, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Wondering if anyone else has been listening to the Loretta Lynn tribute album as much as I have. There's some absolute star power on there (Carrie Underwood and Faith Hill absolutely nail their tracks), but it's balanced nicely with some more 'alternative' picks (the White Stripes, Lucinda Williams, and Steve Earle & Allison Moorer).

My favorite by far is Alan Jackson & Martina McBride doing "Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man," but Paramore's take on "You Ain't Woman Enough" isn't far behind. I've been a huge Haley Williams fan since Riot! and this just proves the girl's got some of the best pipes going.

Only track not up to par is Kid Rock's, and that wasn't much of a surprise.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Jon_Oh, here is my review of that Appalachian blues reissue CD (scroll up for the actual track listing):

http://www.rhapsody.com/album/classic-appalachian-blues-from-smithsonian-folkways-2?artistId=42653#albumreview

And here is something much, much longer, where I compare Taylor Swift and Ke$ha:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/12/taylorkesha.html

And here is my review of Kid Rock's new album that I wrote for Spin, which for some reason wound up in the magazine in slightly edited form (the version below is pre-edit), but never seems to have wound up on their website:

Kid Rock
Born Free
Atlantic

History has proven writing off Kid Rock imprudent – His albums always seem to mosey out the gate, but then months later get jumpstarted when some midwestern country station picks up the fourth single. Next thing you know, he's moved another three million units. His new Born Free already has Big Event written all over it: Rick Rubin production, Martina McBride and T.I. swapping spit on the noncommittally pandering protest "Care," Bob Seger tinkling keys behind Sheryl Crow on the "Picture" redux "Collide," Nashville musclemen and adult-alternative musos lending more hands. Chances are, not even Kid's clunkiest similes and unfunkiest drums ever will stem the demographic outreach.

Michigan, as always, will love it – In the longest of several longish songs, Kid references both Seger's "Against The Wind" and John Rich's "Shuttin' Detroit Down" as he unspecifically cheers the Motor City's resilience. But though Born Free 's dusky highway choogle provides plenty of wind-in-the-hair nostalgia for middle-aged Sons of Anarchy, it lacks jokes and raunch. And while the guitars unfurl, they never crunch, unless "God Bless Saturday"'s blue-collar BTO-lite counts. Plus, strained Neil-Young-cum-blue-eyed-soul falsettos probably aren't the best solution to Bob Ritchie's bark feeling more painful as he pushes 40. That said, he's never let his vocal limitations get in the way before. By next summer, he may well have manipulated more megaplatinum out of his fedora.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Said nice things about Kenny Chesney's "Somewhere With You" over on my lj:

Kenny Chesney "Somewhere With You": Soul-jazz chords at the start, Kenny sounding just as comfortable with smoky longing as he normally does at the beach. Thanks for saving the week, Kenny. TICK.

(The week needed saving from the Glee Cast and Coldplay.)

Also, apparently Martina or someone shortened the title but not the song when they released "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong" as a single; for no good reason I want to list it by its full title on my ballot. Assume that won't hurt its small chance of making the top tracks, as the Country Critics Poll is small enough that Geoffrey will figure out to add up the votes to each.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 16 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Musically, and in terms of singles-worthiness, I like "Care" and "Collide" pretty well; "Rock On" is the most affecting. Speaking of Mumford, Frank, here's my show preview & take on their album, though it's mostly a matter of art appreciation (but as such, and though it takes some repeated listening the album holds up, while def taking me from my rut of preferred listening):

"Tremble, little lion man /Your boldness stands alone/Among the wreck." Drawing on their reputation for poetically rowdy shows, UK folk-rockers Mumford and Sons' "Little Lion Man" is a shrewd point of risky departure for their debut album, "Sigh No More." The little penitent waits for musical shots of tough love's grace. He gets enough to break away, through rising cycles of obsessive drama. These can turn bleak; that's the risk. But the little immigrant does a "Dustbowl Dance" while hometown love and war renew their vows.

dow, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

And while I'm at it, here's Marling too (haven't heard the EP, they might well be at their best there, esp, since this seems like a year for EPs, intended and in albums that require and reward cherry-picking):

At 17, British singer-songwriter Laura Marling released "Alas, I Cannot Swim," powered by a teenage appetite for folk-flavored melodrama and mischief. If your castle explodes, it might be justice, or just because. Marling's new "I Speak Because I Can" conjures with spontaneity, stagecraft, complex subtexts and direct address. Concerning her banished lord of disorder, she confides, "We write, that's all right/I miss his smell." Sounds promising. Ditto when Marling, now 20, also muses, "I wouldn't want to ruin something that I couldn't save." Let's hold her to it.

dow, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Nashville Scene ballot looking like this I think -

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2010:

1. Jamey Johnson - The Guitar Song
2. Taylor Swift - Speak Now
3. Laura Bell Bundy - Achin' and Shakin'
4. Keith Urban - Get Closer
5. Little Big Town - The Reason Why
6. Alan Jackson - Freight Train
7. Reba McEntire - All the Women I Am
8. Kenny Chesney - Hemmingway's Whiskey
9. Easton Corbin - Easton Corbin
10. Merle Haggard - I Am What I Am

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2010:

1. Taylor Swift - Mine
2. Jamey Johnson - Playing the Part
3. Kenny Chesney - Somewhere With You
4. Martina McBride - Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong
5. Brad Paisley - Water
6. Trace Adkins - This Ain't No Love Song
7. Tim McGraw - Still
8. Laura Bell Bundy - Drop On By
9. Sunny Sweeney - From a Table Away
10. Toby Keith - Bullets in the Gun

erasingclouds, Monday, 20 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks good erasing. Anybody heard the True Blood soundtrack? I got a press release about a show in the Louisiana cafe where the show is filmed, featuring Jace Everett, C. C. Adcock, a bunch of other contributors, maybe all of em. Thanx to xhuxk for linking stream of Jace Everett's Red Revelations upthread. Also wondering about True Grit soundtrack (seen a couple good reviews already, but no mention of music. Apparently it's closer to the book; a good piece on the suthor, Charles Portis, in recent NYTimes: a truly deadpan comic novelist, it sez, unlike most, who signal when they're trying to be funny, but also blends the seriously serious into the comments of unwittingly amusing characters, True Grit a bit more shadowed than his others, apparently)

dow, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yo Indexed, speaking of the Loretta Lynn tribute, here's xgau, with good excerpts of tracks in the podcast:
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/22/132206305/singers-have-a-ball-on-album-dedicated-to-honky-tonk-girl-loretta-lynn

dow, Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Rolling Country 2011

xhuxk, Monday, 3 January 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link


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