"Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records..." - A thread for Raime, Chasing Voices, Old Apparatus etc.

kinda wish there was a thread for all this weird gloomy vaguely industrial stuff coming out lately -- Raime, Demdike Stare, the latest Scorn album, recent Mordant Music and Shackleton stuff...

― missingNO, Thursday, December 23, 2010

Kinda feel like there could be a separate Techno Bobbins thread now... Further fueling the inevitable utopian techno takeover, Ex Nihilo Nihil Fit by Chasing Voices is all grainy digital synth choirs, hyper syncopated restless drum patterns, and endlessly modulated filter noises. The synths are so beautifully woozy, they wow and flutter like old VHS machines. You can almost visualize the reverb as if watching the trails from street lamps when driving through a rainy city at night. It's an update on that classic ART/Ifach/B12 sound but seems to be going in a new direction somehow. And crucially contains plenty of dance floor pressure. Extremely sick. Not sure who Chasing Voices are, their previous release was an analog half-stepper that skirted the similar realms that artists such as Raime and Demdike Stare have been exploring, interpreting contemporary dance music trends through the cracked lenses of industrial and dark wave.

― Volker Veldeke, Friday, November 26, 2010

I came here this afternoon looking for the very same thing and couldn't find one. So please let this be it.

The quote in the thread title is taken from the Boomkat review of Chasing Voices' Acidbathory "Imagine Croydon estates and South London sprawl replaced by looming residential blocks, imposing skyscrapers and alleyways where the sunlight never reaches, soundtracked by mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records rather than 2-step garage and D'n'B."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXXPRmk3Mo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkGrVvbq5Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRYL1-oV_Og

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQza1MOzY8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfuWP4qwg7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AwWJatJ17E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swJewbWh4bs

Does Ekoplekz fit here? Hadn't heard Chasing Voices before, that's good stuff.

For sure. All tangents and recommendations welcome.

sounds like a dope thread imo. maybe some of the more haunted housey Nicolas Jaar stuff might fit in here, no?

Thanks Whiney.

Oddly enough I listened to Space Is Only Noise for the first time last night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J9JoWbqQ0A

man, those chasing voices tracks are hitting the spot.

Some of my fave from this year, that prob fit here...

Konx-Om-Pax – Light In Extension [Display Copy]
Ekoplekz – Memowrekz [Mordant Music]
Sun Araw & Mathewdavid – LIVEPHREAKXXX!!!! [Leaving Records]
Bee Mask – Canzoni Dal Laboratorio Del Silenzio Cosmico [Spectrum Spools]

lol sun araw fits just about any thread, don't he!

I prob wouldn't put one of his albums in here but this is some sort of live remix thing Mathewdavid did of Sun Araw stuff, its more beat led and electronic.

Really like this track from Ekoplekz on Punch Drunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIkOd195Nzo

sounds like a dope thread imo. maybe some of the more haunted housey Nicolas Jaar stuff might fit in here, no?

― suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:08 (6 hours ago)

don't think so

acidbathory is great

Just spotted this gig...

FENNESZ + PHILIP JECK + OLD APPARATUS

London St. Pancras Parish Church
Friday 20 May 2011

I had this recommended when I mentioned this sort of stuff to a mate today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83QrBCDW4Js

Think I need to buy the Raime / Regis split based on "This Foundry." This rules, thanks, Barnaby.

Not so into the Chasing Voices stuff for some reason but OA and Raine are sounding really good to me right now...

Does Regis count due to the Raime split release? If so, can I mention how annoyed I am I missed out on this Sandwell District limited release? (imo sandwell district has some moments like this, but they're more mainstream as a project)

Think I need to buy the Raime / Regis split based on "This Foundry." This rules, thanks, Barnaby.

Hey, no problem.

Does Regis count due to the Raime split release?

I've only heard the Raime track/remix on the split. Would love links to anything you consider to count.

There's also a connection between the Downwards label that has been putting out Regis' records and Blackest Ever Black, home of Raime. The next release on BEB being by Tropic Of Cancer, who previously released on Downwards:

http://blackesteverblack.blogspot.com/2011/03/blog-post_09.html

Although the above track doesn't really fit this thread.

Some interesting tangents in BEB's best of 2010 list on Boomkat (which includes two of the records we've been talking about):

http://www.boomkat.com/charts.cfm?id=575&gID=11

There are some mixtapes you can download through the blackesteverblack site iirc. Haven't checked any of those out yet though.

Did think about that T++ record, cos this fits the thread in spirit, but it's not exactly slowed down.

TVO: http://www.broken20.com/

The new album 'Amid The Blaze Of Noon' is damn good grab it here: http://www.highpointlowlife.com/

There is a really nice Dalglish album called 'Benacah Drann Deachd' comign soon on hpll too.

Thomas Köner's La Barca, while ambient, has some voices that drift in that really remind me of the kind of ethereal nature of this work.

Acidbathory video by Cosmotropia de Xam aka Mater Suspiria Vision:
http://vimeo.com/11899087

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxsL3PaR-iU

SR Mix #75: Konx-om-Pax [Display Copy]

http://sonicrouter.blogspot.com/2011/03/sr-mix-75-konx-om-pax-display-copy.html

1. Konx-om-Pax - 7th Dimension (Rustie Remix)
2. Team Brick - Track 3 (Klad Heist)
3. The Human League - Disco Disaster
4. Alexander Robotnick - Ar Stack 2
5. Konx-om-Pax - II
6. Bernard Parmegiani - Échos/mélopée
7. Carl Craig - Sound On Sound
8. Konx-om-Pax - Chevy Chase Mega Looper
9. James Ferraro - Untitled (Clear)
10. SPK - Stammheim Torturkammer
11. Synergy - Terminal Hotel
12. Oneohtrix Point Never - Gates of Sanct Vacui
13. Konx-om-Pax - Glacier Mountain Descent
14. Madhya - Thème Solennel de la Rédemption

The new Andy Stott LP Passed Me By is pretty staggering and fitting for this thread.

http://soundcloud.com/modernlove/sets/andy-stott-passed-me-by

will listen

fennesz / jeck / old apparatus is this friday too, there only a few tickets left

i find it really hard to pin down exactly why a lot of this stuff just makes me blahhhhhh whereas some of it is among my favourite music ever

Andy Stott chatted to us about all this slow business the other day: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2011/05/andy-stotts-modern-love/

my raime 12"s have been on backorder at forced exposure for like two months :(

new Emptyset sounds exactly like the quote in thread title. completely insane low-slung sludge techno

http://www.junodownload.com/products/demiurge/1735661-02/?trackid=9

interesting that so much of this stuff is coming from the UK, and outside of London

oh yeah, Chris Carter mix of Perc also goes here

http://soundcloud.com/perc/perc-my-head-is-slowly-2

this dude called Antonym who has worked with Mick Harris and put stuff out on Downwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imNL_UwwHLE&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpRku0nsu8g

Woah, thanks for the heads up on Emptyset.

Some interesting background here... http://bassmusicblog.com/the-return-of-subtext-emptyset-and-vexd-sort

"Emptyset have their new album 'Demiurge' due in a couple of weeks and hopefully we'll get to chat to Ginz about some of the work that went into making it - I know that at one point, they took everything they had made up to that point to an unfinished stately home, played it all though a massive PA, recorded the results through vintage microphones and then mixed that live reverb back into the original tracks, which is slightly more interesting than the usual 'yeah Kev came round with some 808 samples and I put a bassline from Massive over the top'."

Subtext looks like a label to watch:

"Bristol's experimental modern classical label"
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Subtext/124153327659415#!/pages/Subtext/124153327659415?sk=app_178091127385

Empty set are damn good, they did a mix for us a while back too: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2009/11/interview-emptyset-caravan/ more info on what they're about too.

new Emptyset reminds me more of Hecker or Pan Sonic than anything ppl can/would go out and dance to - I do like it but it's ~cold~

everything I've read abt the Andy Stott thing sounds like it's precision-tooled to blow me away, should really go buy it I guess

The Andy Stott thing is good, if bass heavy in a "you must have headphones or a home audio system that gets that deep bass" way. Then again, that's kind of an entry requirement for this thread.

Not too familiar with Emptyset yet, but I get to see them right before Mika Vainio next week. Yesssss.

I put together a compilation inspired by this thread which you can download here: http://bit.ly/lfHGJF

if you can catch old apparatus live/av/dvd/whatevs I strongly suggest you do, shivers down the spine synaesthesia

Holy shit this new Emptyset album. Mencap otm, first thing I thought of was Pan Sonic. The first song (after the intro) sounds like doom metal, the way the kick distorts and delays and reverberates - could be a Southern Lord band! Well, sorta. Anyway, this rules.

Those guys were really cool live, and friendly when I ran into them after their show.

I realized later that telling them that they played a "great set" when their name is Emptyset is kind of silly, but oh well.

The name Emptyset seems a bit silly because Pan Sonic's alias ø means empty set, right?

Yup! I think it's an homage.

Kind of funny that they played right before Mika Vainio at Mutek

aaand I just said that a few posts back. Whoops.

This is kinda mutant...

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2011/06/introducing-ghosting-season/

Ghosting Seasons are a sort of post-rock/techno project, kinda noisy but with a bright techy sort of pulse. We've got a Spatial remix to give away too which is pretty damn good.

Fits here better than the other dance-ish threads anyway.

Dalglish: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2011/06/sr-mix-89-dalglish-highpoint-lowlife/

Fits here a treat.

barnaby, you are awesome

i think the first emptyset album is a lot better than the second

i guess the difference is the first sounds a lot like the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore whereas to my ears the second is much more "pan sonic"

To be honest, I just picked up the most recent one and not their first. I'll have to do so now.

I love me some pan sonic, though.

me too but i think metri / olenta / tulkinta are sort of next-level compared to the rest of the discography

Visiting London next week - what's a good shop to find these sorts of things? Also, minimal techno in general?

Phonica on Poland Street, Soho, is worth checking out.

Did anyone check out the Boomkat dl - Thanet to Jodrell Bank? Lots of this kinda thing there. Very good.

Thanks Kraudive! Will check it out...kinda hard to get some of this stuff in the states...

There are a lot of record shops in the area - have a wander. Sister Ray on Berwick St and Sounds of The Universe on Broadwick St are both within half a mile of Phonica and are great. 3 of the UK's best record shops within a very short distance.

hey barnaby what kind of file is that? what would i open it with

a lot of the stuff on this thread a little too timid for me. wish it were gloomier. or more dystopian. i did like that last emptyset album since someone mentioned emptyset. emptyset was supposed to be some extreme example of dubstep? or maybe i am confusing them with someone else. i will check this thread from time to time though.

i like justin's stuff in this vein, but i also kinda feel like he can smoke a joint and crank this shit out in his sleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0mtwEtZlYk&feature=related

maybe i'm just more of a "dark ambient" fan. though i love beats too of course. just feel like the dubstep/avant techno stuff i hear doesn't hit as hard as i'd like it too. if you do like deep dark stuff, this is a great mix:

Xela & Jefre Cantu-Ledesma - Love Is The Beginning
Tholen - Skeletons of Steel
Visions - Summoning the Void
Yui Onodera & Celer - The Street of a Rainy, Gray Day
John Chowning - Phoné
Per Nørgård - Iris
Fire in the Head - I'm Not Here to Coexist, I'm Here to Win
Sky Burial - Chroma Polaris
Jean-Claude Risset - Avel
Blood Box - Mother of Dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zs5gUor3PI&feature=related

barnaby, you are awesome

― tipper gore (nakhchivan), Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Ha, no problem.

hey barnaby what kind of file is that? what would i open it with

― flopson, Thursday, June 23, 2011

It's just a .zip file, so something free like Stuffit Expander will open those for you.

Visiting London next week - what's a good shop to find these sorts of things? Also, minimal techno in general?

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, June 22, 2011

For the more ambient and/or noisier end of this stuff I would recommend Second Layer Records in Highgate.

Thanks for the recommendations everybody. Will try to hit all four of the ones mentioned.

<3 your posts scott!

I'd agree that there are very few spots where the stuff this thread has kicked off with really gets the dread/noise factor that dark ambient, noise, or even the drone/doom metal stuff does. I think that at points, the Sandwell District/Downwards label stuff goes in that direction, but is still dancefloor-oriented.

Has anyone else listened to the new Andy Stott record? It's right in this vein and I've been listening to it quite a bit.

Love the new Andy Stott.

weird my computer doesnt recognize it as a .zip file & i have unzipped like six .zip/.rar files today wonder whats up

the dark ambient connection w/ this stuff is Lull aka Mike Harris. he has strong ties to the Downwards/Sandwell District crew

but I'm not sure the stuff in this thread is really aiming for the same level of darkness as doom metal or whatever. i think particularly the UK guys are purposely placing themselves in the lineage of old school industrial stuff (in the same way that Panasonic and Porter Ricks and Noto were in the 90s/early 00s). see also the design aesthetic -- bleak imagery, xeroxed fanzine style

that Kevin Gormand Weiland 7" on Downwards is less techno/dub more noise. kinda sounds like early Cabs

this came out last year on Modern Love, I think, quite minimal but sick nonetheless, esp if you're into those Mika Vainio recs that Vahid mentioned upthread

http://youtu.be/xNXtrG4J_B8

http://youtu.be/GQbN1aXoGkY

actually discogs said it came out on Young Americans which is a Modern Love sub label. they put out a dope looking Daphne Oram boxset!

weird my computer doesnt recognize it as a .zip file & i have unzipped like six .zip/.rar files today wonder whats up

Are you on Windows? I couldn't unzip it with the Windows built-in "zip folders" extractor because the directory inside the zip has a " in its name and that's not a valid character in a Windows filename, but Winrar extracted it OK (gave me a bunch of error messages but all the files were there).

Thanks for the mix, Barnaby. Hadn't heard "Acidbathory" before and dug it, had an entertaining morning of listening to all the Mixcloud tracks which included it afterwards too thanks to their artist search thing.

I re-uploaded barnaby's mix in what might be more Windows-friendly form. Hope that's ok, barnaby.

dear mods, if barnaby requests this post be removed, please do so

My, my... I really like all this stuff on paper but I can't tear myself away from the Bear Family Gene Vincent boxed set.

lol "Mike" Harris. Mick

I spend hours convincing myself that I don't need everything on Modern Love and its sublabels, then you have to post that Suum Cuique thing!

thank you!

I re-uploaded barnaby's mix in what might be more Windows-friendly form. Hope that's ok, barnaby.

dear mods, if barnaby requests this post be removed, please do so

― sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, June 24, 2011

Thanks very much for doing this!

Loving the first track linked. shit, I fear ILM is making me disappear down rabbitholes again.

guess the difference is the first sounds a lot like the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore whereas to my ears the second is much more "pan sonic"

Inspired by this moonship post I've been listening to the first emptyset album a lot, and I get where it's definitely more like mika vainio's solo work, but I don't think I'd call it quiet or chilly! It's more throbbing and dancefloor-ready if anything.

That is to say, it reminds me more of his work as Ø than the work under his own name.

"primate", tommy four seven's first album, is incredible. The kind of techno that falls into this topic.

yeah when i was referring to "the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore" i was referring to Ø records

i meant "chilly" as in cold, "quiet" as in understated

In that case, totally otm

Would Actress fit in here? He's just given away some well nice tracks http://www.factmag.com/2011/07/15/actress-is-giving-away-tracks-on-his-twitter-again/

I heard the new Old Apparatus the other day, wasn't that into it really, not a patch on the first 12" anyway. Kinda sounds like Clouds but not quite as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSsUSFKLBHs

Holy CHRIST this new Kangding Ray album (Or) is astonishing.

Whoa. Listening now. Four tracks in, I agree - pretty outstanding.

It gets even stronger as it goes on, too... The last track backs off the intensity a bit and is just :-0

"Mirror" is my kinda jam. Love this whole thing. Will buy.

Listening to this now and yes, it's great. Thanks Clarke.

Just listened to the samples on their website and I was sold on it about two seconds in!

Same thing happened when I previewed it in the shop yesterday. I've owned it for, like, 25 hours and it's already one of my favorite things to come out all year... And it's been a hell of a year so far!

hmm ... really?

You mean about it being a great year so far? My own viewpoint is skewed admittedly, since I feel like I got back into music in a really serious way after a few years of being less immersed in it. But yeah, I'm loving this.

it's undoubtedly been a banner year for techno

kangding ray is fantastic -- raster noton generally have been on fire recently

has anybody heard the new mika vainio album on mego? samples sound like pansonic remixing filth/cop era swans

and he covers a stooges song

has anybody heard the new mika vainio album on mego?

yes but i didnt like it very much, seemed sorta blah

I've got it special-ordered and I'm chomping at the bit about it... WOO-HOO. Did you hear his record Heijastuva (under his [null set symbol] pseudonym) from earlier this year? Not techno at all really but beautiful and gentle (for him).

i dunno that kangding ray sounds like a dry retread ... though i agree it's been a good few years for techno

I'm a bit of a dry retread myself, so it works... Jesus, the last track "La Belle" is so gorgeous and not at all dry, though. It just inches forward heartbreakingly, those simple chords see-sawing and gradually getting subsumed. You know what it's like, like a lot? SUCCOUR by Seefeel! No wonder I love it so much.

hieroglyphic being "got no place to go"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42hUBeEb1hw

bethany skirt "in the meadow under the stars"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDSFTP97yo

new mika vainio is halfway between guitar drone and industrial and is a+

I was able to sell metal drone friends who are fans of Sunn O))) and Boris on it

yeah i found the stooges cover on the mego website, pretty great

there's also a track on soundcloud that kinda sounds like young gods! (w/out the vocals obv)

http://soundcloud.com/pdis_inpartmaint/mika-vainio-life-it-eats-you

^ill

I'm liking the Mika Vainio; a bit of a headfuck. I found myself laughing during parts of it, which is always a sign that some interesting buttons are being pressed. God, I'm gonna keep beating this Kangding Ray horse, too. This track is just so gorgeous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B4Qg63ONgo

i get what your saying about giggling during the mika vainio record, its so camply dark at times, much like the new prurient. first time i stuck it on i cranked it up on the first track thinking it was just mastered low but when that first sustained bass and cymbal tone hit a couple of minutes in i burst out laughing in shock

It's a pleasant laughter, kind of an acknowledgement that you're surprised how well the music does what it's attempting to do, in my experience.

As much as I like their first record, I really cannot get into this new Emptyset album. All those gaps in the rhythms never let the tracks pick up an iota of steam or momentum, despite the programming being so clearly tied to the grid (emphasized more so by the "surprising" placement of some of the accents and hits). Some feel like they're starting to schaffel, some feel like they want to start to live and breathe, but the tracks almost uniformly sound stillborn all the way through. Austerity for its own sake shouldn't be confused with the restraint of successful minimalism, and this record smacks to me of a self-conscious effort to be somehow "brutal" but without the requisite roughness or intensity of the sonics to match. Leaves me cold, and not in a good way.

Austerity for its own sake shouldn't be confused with the restraint of successful minimalism

This is well put, but I disagree with your premise in this case. I think this is a bold, spooky album, with all the roughness and intensity of a 'brutal' album, albeit a self conscious one. This thing is relentless.

I like this album, but I admittedly my exposure to their work has been light listening, followed by a live performance, the second album, then the first.

sorry mika, you lost me. and i'm with clarke b on the new emptyset.

regis still fucking killing it, though

http://soundcloud.com/blackest-ever-black/regis-blood-witness-short-clip

bit of a muslimgauze vibe to that

The Month in Electronic Music: Knackered House... http://thequietus.com/articles/06777-hyperspecific-03-electronic-music-review

Andy Stott profile in the new Wire

I actually have that open in my other browser tab but I haven't had time to read it all!

The Haxan Cloak's Observatory EP deserves a mention in here: http://bit.ly/nZwVd7

still scratching my head about how this is some kind of new innovation, genre or micro-genre even

though i hope they actually do call this 'knackered house'--i'm 2x more interested with the name

Ekoplekz has a new album on the way for Punch Drunk and it's well nice. Its in a more digestable size then the epic double tape 33 track album on Mordant Music too. Clips: http://punchdrunkmusic.com/products-page/featured-products/ekoplekz-intrusive-incidentalz-vol-1-lp-punch-drunk-pre-order/

The new Mika Vainio album reminds me, oddly, of Mammal's "Lonesome Drifter."

That's a weird comparison. I'll have to hear that Mammal record. I only have Fog Walkers and it's sort of gabba-style noise.

Is there really nowhere to buy Raime's 'Retread' 12" or that Chasing Voices 12"? Been on backorder at Boomkat and Forced Exposure for months, and it's not even on eBay (my usual last resort when I'm fiending to own physical product). Bummer.

Just bought the Tropic of Cancer and new Regis 12"s but have yet to listen.

The Chasing Voices twelves are here: http://bit.ly/f7lgFw

And Raime here: http://bit.ly/o0F0wb

Thanks! Had no idea discogs was a site that actually sold records. That Raime 12" is still a bit steep for me ($40+ not including shipping: not for a 12", not today), but I think I'll buy one of those Chasing Voices 12"s. Thanks again

No problem. I love Discogs Marketplace.

It might be worth you emailing this shop: http://www.resident-music.com

They had multiple copies of the Raime EP for £7.99 when I was last in there.

Actually, here you go... http://bit.ly/pEU8V3

Still worth mailing Resident though, as the copies there were the first pressing, with sleeves.

The guy selling it on Discogs is a chancer, I clicked through to the sales history and the stamped repress is worth £13 at most. The first pressing goes for around £25.

first thing i thought of is the aybee cassette ancient tones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzASdm7R4Y

okay, thanks thread, i love techno again.

yeah, same. I started reading this yesterday and have already spent about $35 on this stuff.

oh i'm being a worthless sponge off the bounty of the internet for now, but when my next paycheck comes in, it's over.

I went looking for that Aybee cassette on the interwebs and in three pages of Google was only able to turn up rapidshare and blogs offering illegal downloads (and a few sites that had links to 'buy cassette' that went to nowhere at all)

yeah some of this stuff seems easier to download illegally, sadly. beatport has Old Apparatus, bunch of Ekoplekz, and Raime, which you can download in .wav format.

I may resolve pretty soon to just quit downloading techno altogether. This kinda stuff sounds so much better on wax (or, err, cassette)

I need a spotify playlist of this genre.

re: the Haxan Cloak's Observatory EP: the title track has been on repeat for the past few days... soooo making my life right now.

He has an album out now too

yeah, i'm getting a check later today. once that clears, it's on.

Seen quite a few of these guys live, mostly awesome, though I somehow failed to realise that there is Haxan Cloak stuff actually available on physical format. D'oh.

it's funny that my friend Bob's stuff has been reworked by Rrose. it seems so...unlikely a pairing when i think about Bob, but then i listen to the original Motormouth recordings and it makes perfect sense....

a little more dark dubstep or whatever, but it occurred to me that Sleeper fall into this with some tunes, maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdqt8ORfgQ

Seen quite a few of these guys live, mostly awesome, though I somehow failed to realise that there is Haxan Cloak stuff actually available on physical format. D'oh.

I keep picking it up and putting it down again in Resident. Any good? Review I saw a while back was comparing it to Ben Frost.

'it' = the album

speaking of the new prurient, i really like its campiness— its kind of a new height of noise camp, imo.

I keep picking it up and putting it down again in Resident. Any good? Review I saw a while back was comparing it to Ben Frost.

― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Saturday, September 3, 2011

The album and 12" are both excellent but quite different from each other. The Ben Frost reference can be heard on the album for sure, but the 12" sort of stands alone.

Not as good as Ben Frost

interview + mix of blackest ever black label dude

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1401

digging this guys schtick

"Schtick" is a fitting term for how he comes across in that interview, although I did enjoy it and get some good chuckles from it. His views are so well-articulated and thought-through that they read as scripted, and for a label that seems to want to offer a level of darkness and intensity they feel most contemporary dance music doesn't deliver, that surprised me.

Also, as much as I'm digging a lot of music discussed on this thread (especially Regis, at the moment), does it feel to anyone else, I don't know, a bit obvious? There's a certain hamfistedness with goth (in all its forms) that tends to prevent me from truly engaging with it, and much of this stuff just oozes hamfistedness. To be fair, though, I'm probably not his ideal fan; as he so charmingly writes: "Already I can see that more and more halfwits and knuckle-draggers are being drawn to Blackest Ever Black, but alas you can't choose who buys your records and hey, it's meat in the room." (We're all just fuckin' MEAT, man.)

(And do you ever feel like people who attack Mr. Conservative Dancefan Strawman with the most vigor are actually afraid deep-down that they might be one themselves?)

actually happened to be listening to the regis ep right now. it fukken kills.

I'm afraid I might be part of his well-defined target market. I would advice him to stop doing interviews.

Clarke B., I'm sort of confused by you saying that ALL GOTH MUSIC IS LACKING DEXTERITY. Actually, not really confused, but more, "What the fuck is this guy on about?"

It's just a really shitty generalization. And yes, I am a bit of a 'goth,' in appearance and in musical taste, but a lot of what I think you might refer to as hamfistedness is just the costumery and camp affect of a lot of what some might call goth music. You are either into that sort of camp quality for whatever reasons, or you're just not. But don't fuck with goth shit, I will haunt your fucking soul.

I realize in retrospect that I didn't make it clear, but I wasn't referring to the music or the execution of the music when I said goth was hamfisted, and I think "hamfisted" is actually not really the correct word for what I was trying to say. (And it's not as if my collection doesn't contain quite a helping of stuff that could comfortably fit under a goth umbrella...) I meant that there are certain aspects of goth--what you described as "costumery and camp affect" included--that are hard for me to relate to. In any case, I didn't mean for my post to be an anti-goth screed, and I'll regroup and try to pinpoint more precisely why that interview irritated me.

the interview mostly made me laugh at home. so serious! I like the stuff I've heard from his label (tho found his RA "mix" boring), but it's hilarious to hear a dance label guy who writes for FACT disdainfully refer to clubbers as 'meat'. I like to imagine he looks like this:

http://deskofbrian.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_dorff_blade_vampire.jpg

ugh... "home" = him (wtf)

I wish the stuff was campier, really

my friends saw tropic of cancer in san francisco a few nights ago and said it was sort of mopey

Their mission? To make you feel something.

We had similar—if not identical—tastes and backgrounds, similarly paranoid and pretentious dispositions, and perhaps most vitally we were all at the same point of disaffection, a point where we were finding more solace and succour in Earth 2 than in the latest internet dance fad.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000231085/polls_goths2_3801_974703_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg

At this point in my life I want to be provoked, I want to be romanced, I want to be made to feel stupid and confused all over again.

okcupid.com?

I think—no, I know—it was Greil Marcus, in one of his frightfully earnest essays about punk,

at this point i reached "cringing at smug twat overload" and stopped reading

^^^

http://batillusdoom.com/crustcake/images/earth2_399x234.jpg

L-R: ham fist, half wit, knuckle dragger

http://www.boomkat.com/various/charts/KiranSandechart_Large.jpg

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"...a point where we were finding more solace and succour in Earth 2 than in the latest internet dance fad."

...so we decided to embrace the beautifully pure and un-internet-hyped Knackered House movement and give totally meaningful interviews on the non-internet-hype-oriented Resident Advisor website.

Curious what's up with Vatican Shadow being in on that mix. It's Dominick Fernow (Prurient, Hospital Productions) doing Muslimgauze worship/"Knackered House", and as far as I know he's only released under the hospital label. Would be interesting to see him getting pulled into this scene after Bermuda Drain.

oh and of course I missed that part that says he's releasing on BEB in the interview, heh.

you guys are scary. also, who came up with the "knackered house" term?

Andy Stott hisself I think: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2011/05/andy-stotts-modern-love/

Super slow, super filthy, submerged, broken house. Knackered house!

sighs, I wanted to get IA about this.

I absolutely love the Chasing Voices records (btw, another one is out soon: https://dopejams.pinnaclecart.com/vinyl/chasing-voices-another-walk/), most especially Acidbathory, but I'm not sure much of the rest of the stuff in the thread is doing it for me. The Chasing Voices stuff seems to have a bit more propulsion/forward motion while so much of this has the right sounds but is meandering.

I wish I could find that Acidbathory 12" for under twenty bucks

dead link btw

Try this, with the last slash:

https://dopejams.pinnaclecart.com/vinyl/chasing-voices-another-walk/

Is it really fair to poke fun at one's music-related pretensions on a thread titled "Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records"? The BEB label founder may be a bit of a twat (find me a boutique label runner who isn't), but everything that guy said in print is the sort of stuff people say around here all the time, and I tend to agree with some of his musings. All I really care about is that I picked up a sick new Regis 12" with a cool sleeve photo of some guy getting street shanked from these guys. If it takes endless hours of goth wankery for them to deliver as much, so be it.

And maybe no one around here takes themselves this serious, but a Ryan McGinley photo of Ned in fingerless leather gloves holding a switchblade would still be hot!

is that really a ryan mcginley photo? i was about to start making dash snow RIP joeks but thought better of it.

I have no idea, but it sure looks like one.

oh cool

i am w/ you ... BEB is a sick label, just wish i'd never read that interview

Yeah just saying that a goth/industrial retread in dance music was inevitable, and long overdue. Since what, 2000 or so(?), we've seen relative dabblings and near misses (via music and/or aesthetics) by way of DJ Hell, Immer, Blackstrobe, the cold/new/no wave revival, witch house, dubstep, what have you. Goths always suffered taking themselves way too seriously, but that was part of the point. At least BEB are delivering a sense of authenticity, though they'd do so even more by saying even less.

What I initially loved about the early dubstep salvos was this sense of secrecy (Burial, Zomby, etc). Chasing Voices drops a nameless monster scary sounding 12" with an equally scary faceless Phantasm/Mob Rules/Jawa looking troll on the sleeve and I'm thinking WTF is this? So good!

All this recent darkness and mystery in EM is really fun and exciting to me and I love the idea of a DJ threading something from Raster-Noton and Planet Mu with something from Hospital Records.

And it's definitely interesting to me that old goth stalwart label 4AD is now releasing Zomby and Joker LPs...

right?

i do think there is a continuum of goth from very mysterious to livejournal-scale oversharing

...which was covered so well in Phil Sherburne's witch house musings:

http://phs.abstractdynamics.org/2010/11/witch_house_dj_screw_and_the_n.html

Thanks for the heads up on that new Chasing Voices 12" matt2.

Kanding Ray and Emptyset are playing together in some Shoreditch car park later this month: http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?280986

All this recent darkness and mystery in EM is really fun and exciting to me and I love the idea of a DJ threading something from Raster-Noton and Planet Mu with something from Hospital Records.

― The Cold Stare of Hamilton Fletcher, Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Seems like one of the future BEB releases would link said DJ set together nicely...

"I've put out four records so far, all nicely aligned with each other, but I'm not yet finished establishing the parameters of what Blackest music is. The next 12-inch is Raime's Hennail, then after that an EP of lavishly arranged existential fire from a young Scottish duo called Young Hunting, some incredible SM electronics from Dominick "Prurient" Fernow's Vatican Shadow project, and a few other things that I don't wish to name right now, including a terrifying modern recording of a traditional East Anglian folk song and the first ever vinyl edition of one of my all-time favourite albums—think dourly mystical British pop, a beautiful jumble of tape loops, primitive synths and sighing, sagging chamber instrumentation."

Really pumped for the new raime ep, the phenomenal material they played at the end of their XOYO gig isnt on any of the other releases so im hoping this will be what ive been waiting for

Theres a BEEB showcase at basing house in a few weeks with regis, raime, cut hands etc. Great little venue, its not been invaded by the same only k is essex boneheads as every other club in shoreditch so should be awesome. Turns out BEEB head honcho is a mate of a mate so im winging for an introduction. Its the same night as wolves in the throne room so im going to have a seriously doomy one

Seems like one of the future BEB releases would link said DJ set together nicely...

I actually just recieved a portion of the new Vatican Shadow material, Pakistan Military Aademy in the mail yesterday and it's surprisingly housey, especially the B-side of cassette 1, "Staccato bursts of Gunfire". I suggest checking it out if you can track it down (casettes are notoriously limited to editions of 33 or 125 and always sell out in a day through hospital)

New Raimie should be out in a month or so btw.

getting into muslimgauze territory here

The calculatedness of SUCH ridiculously small pressings/editions of things with these guys bothers me. I understand that it's a reaction to our diseased modern era of having everything at our fingertips, etc etc, but it would be nice not to have to go to such insane lengths to get one's hands on it. At my most cynical, I feel like it's a cheap and calculated way to imbue this stuff with an aura of ultra-specialness that the music on its own probably doesn't merit.

TBF it could be they can't afford to print larger pressings

I'd wager that it's a little from column a, a little from column b...

it is ominous that one reads that interview, gets a good laugh at the responses, and once the word 'Raimie' appears in coolhunting ilxor thread the instinctive reaction is to shout FIRST!

Clarke, are you familiar with the noise....uh...'community'? Fernow (aka Prurient aka Vatican Shadow) was borne out of that scene, and that scene has always been about limited releases, whether it be for mystique-building or economic reasons. Sorry to point out the obvious, but I don't know, the limited-release phenomenon has never really bothered me, except during my heavy heavy NNCK obsession days where I'd sit with five eBay windows open hoping to win my bid on a 75-edition CDR or whatever.

(In other words, there are always means of hearing the music. Kneel Before Religious Icons is easily downloadable, for example.

I'm not worried about finding the music, and I realize it's pretty much going to be at least downloadable these days, but I'm shamefully a bit of a vinyl fetishist myself, so that's my preferred medium when possible. Ha, maybe it's because I know I'm so susceptible to being the five eBay window guy myself that I just have to vent sometimes... I mean, just this afternoon I picked up the "highly limited second vinyl pressing" of the Rrose + Bob Ostertag 2xLP on Sandwell District for far too much money at Other Music. (Speaking of which, if you're a fan of the stuff on this thread, I would urge you to check out Rrose, and this record in particular... Perhaps not as overtly darkly gothic as some of this stuff, but it's unabashedly black/slate grey in its tonal palette, cavernously deep, and with almost unbelievably tactile synth grit--like tiny pieces of black hail skittering off of an oil slick.

For instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btlt7ni5-n8

that rules

i met Bob at this gay bar a few months ago, and he said this was coming out, and i was like, "you're a big silver bear daddy and you're not wearing a shirt, you knew david wojnarowicz, and rrose is working with you on this record on Sandwell District? excuse me while i kiss your boots."

also yeah, it's a fabulous record.

also..."Kneel Before Religious Icons" is exactly what i want to be listening to right now.

I only just realised that I confused Hospital Records with Hospital Productions...

Not really sure how well it fits in here but went to see Anna Meredith play recently and figured some of you lot may be into it.

Table, that is awesome! The synth sounds on that record are just unbelievable...

man, rrose/ostertag lp is a real stunner. parts of it strongly remind me of techno blended with the very 'out' synth intro to herbie hancock's 'rain dance'. or just the more rhythmic end of 60s/70s electronic music in general. something like seesselberg, maybe? last few mins of the youtube above are a good example of what I'm trying to describe. love it!

thanks for the heads-up!

http://www.discogs.com/Vatican-Shadow-Kneel-Before-Religious-Icons/release/2697558

^^ this is so provocative. in that way that i feel provoked when my college-age neighbors forget to take the trash out and my driveway starts to reek of kitty litter and stale beer.

Cassettes with individual color j-cards and cases.
Arranged in a radially symmetric fashion inside a 6" reel-to-reel box with color images affixed to the inside and outside.
Edition of 33 numbered copies.
The order of the cassettes is ambiguous; the listing here assumes a clockwise order within the box.

^^ you can really tell how much thought went into this release

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2787493-1301028405.jpeg

i am gonna call my next noise track "critique the social order (own the complete set)"

this is quickly sliding from "promising" to easily the worst trend in electronic music in recent memory.

ehhh Prurient dude has been doing this sort of nonsense for a good decade without any interaction from the 'electronic community', I doubt it's going to noticeably bleed into anything else being talked about on here

eh, whatever, the record sounds good so tbh, i don't give a fuck.

ryan, whoever you are, thanks for that amazing webmail. made my afternoon— doing lots of freelance legal research work, and the new sounds are allowing for a bearability i wasnt expecting... cheers to you.

Chasing Voices out now:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=248636591845815&id=76012193325

looking forward to downloading the 'extremely limited' mp3

I caught up with Ekoplekz to chat about his new record on Punch Drunk, plus he gave us some exclusive tracks for your dowloading pleasure: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2011/09/ekoplekz-the-creative-exchange-between-man-and-machine/

So really, does anyone know who Chasing Voices is?

that ekoplekz album was sort of wack i thought

I guiltily never listened to it despite having a friend who loves the guy

Ah, I was looking for a thread about Ekoplekz. I love this guy's sound. His instruments hiss and fizz as though they could deliver a nasty shock if improperly handled. Those bass sounds are so fucked up and dirty - in a way this is what I've always secretly wanted dub to sound like. I've always been in love with the idea of Lee Perry or King Tubby surrounded by tape equipment, wrecked'n'repaired electronics, multi-coloured wires spitting out of crust-enfilled sockets in a van or a ramshackle hut somewhere. This kind of takes it to its logical conclusion - creating true dub sounds using the studio itself as an instrument, rather than reconstructing pre-existing recordings.

The Ekoclef collab with Bassclef is very interesting and worthwhile from what I've heard so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJobaxZqy18

Ayshay - Warn-U

Couldn't have said it better myself Dog Latin, I can't get enough of his stuff. It really is how I've always wanted dub to sound at times. He just hits all the right buttons for me in that no mans land between synth experiments, dub, bass and I dunno post-punk or something haha...

Received my copy of the Another Walk 12" by Chasing Voices today. Pretty brilliant stuff. One sided LP, and the track itself is on the short side, so some might feel a bit ripped off ($15!), but it's consistent with the package, which has no information on it anywhere, not even on the label or spine. You know, stark. Don't love it as much as Acidbathory, but that's a hard 12" to beat.

Also, this stuff played loud, through headphones = totally different experience. Jamming Regis' In A Syrian Tongue 12" right now through headphones at top volume. My god, those drums! That bass! Unreal.

yeah, i was going to mention that listening to this stuff very loud using headphones is...something else.

New Andy Stott: http://soundcloud.com/modernlove/sets/andy-stott-we-stay-together

Nice one, thanks

Pitch this guy's stuff down a bit, and he'll fit right in (well, with Andy Stott at least):

http://soundcloud.com/fourth-wave/4th002-gerry-read

Loving this Roly Porter (Ex-Vex'd) LP on Subtext...

http://www.factmag.com/2011/09/19/stream-roly-porters-aftertime-in-full/

Glad it's getting a full vinyl release too and not just coming out as a 'sampler' in a generic sleeve like the Emptyset album.

Would I like Vex'd? Never really got into them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpTh9EWsdck

not heard Xhin before and this album isn't out quite yet but it's kicking my ass at the moment and fits into this aesthetic pretty well

'You Against Yourself' especially, total Surgeon-esque brutality

Interviewing Bass Clef (Ralph Cumbers) this evening. Anyone got any questions for him?

What a line-up...

http://berghain.de/event/307

Intrigued by that Xhin track DJ Mencap. Are there any more from the album streaming anywhere?

can't see anything, he has a soundcloud but hasn't thrown his new stuff up thre yet - the album's out in about a month I think

http://soundcloud.com/modernlove/sets/g-h-ground-ep/

I went round Bass Clef's house and had a poke around his home studio and stuff:

http://thequietus.com/articles/07391-bass-clef-coseph-jonrad-interview

Andy Stott's Passed Me By and We Stay Together have been re-pressed on vinyl...

http://boomkat.com/vinyl/408380-andy-stott-passed-me-by

http://boomkat.com/vinyl/453161-andy-stott-we-stay-together

There's a new Chasing Voices 12" -- "Valley of the Dry Bones"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqlnSHGZKJA

I assumed that someone already bumped this thread because of this forhcoming cassette (out next week?) put out by The Tapeworm:

"Old Apparatus are a four-piece audio/visual collective transmitting from East London that have been releasing bass-oriented electronic dance music on Mala's underground label Deep Medi Musik. This edition for The Tapeworm is an improvised instrumental piece using guitar, piano, violin and found sound ambiences recorded entirely in the front room of the house they share together. Given that most forms of electronic music are bound by linearity and grid-based digital audio workstations, Old Apparatus consciously embarked on an exploration of non-linear forms of musical expression. The audio on the tape is a snapshot in time of that exploration.
Track Listing:
A1. 15:24-15:46
B-side left intentionally blank"

link?

Not totally feeling this new Chasing Voices. "Acidbathory" set the bar pretty high, to be fair...

http://www.factmag.com/2012/05/24/bandshell-makes-his-hessle-audio-debut-with-an-ep-of-crawling-flattened-techno/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzER_jsUIJM

http://soundcloud.com/rasternoton/senking-dazed-r-n142-the-dance

http://soundcloud.com/rasternoton/senking-dazed-r-n142-closing

Anyone feeling the new Emptyset album, Medium? Was looking forward to it based on press release but it's not really making much of an impression on first listen. Maybe I need a better system. Sound like a Pan Sonic LP with half the tracks muted.

I still need to check that new Emptyset. Thanks for the reminder.

Those EPs by Miles and G.H. on Modern Love are really hitting the spot today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6mOhA7ajEw

http://www.modern-love.co.uk/releases/ground-ep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKQIJ7UKgFA

http://www.modern-love.co.uk/releases/facets

Free download of an Old Apparatus Electronic Explorations mix... http://electronicexplorations.org/?show=old-apparatus-anstam

I should read this thread more... Been really digging Demiurge by Emptyset lately (I know, it's from last year, but...). Kind of the techno equivalent of Sunn O))) or something. I like the idea of subtractive noise taken to its logical conclusion - like they're chipping away at huge blocks of noise or something? Very cool. They've done something more recently, right?

yup, they had an ep that they recorded by playing live in an empty building (Medium). no strong opinion on it, but the reverb is cool.

it looks like they have another release that was a collection of early tracks that I haven't yet heard

I just found a Boiler Room set they did, pretty danceable

lol @ this release from Blackest Ever Black:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jx2KBWgqLhI/UK0jfTjBu5I/AAAAAAAADfA/t3AhG5ixnlk/s1600/Screen+Shot+2012-11-21+at+18.32.33.png

http://blackesteverblack.blogspot.nl/2012/11/blog-post_6756.html

hahaha.

anyone listen to the raime full length yet?

yeah, it's well-executed if a little samey and... minimal

sounds about right. the review on RA got me curious but I've never really been floored by any their older cuts.

You know, Kevin Drumm records really seem like an outlier in this thread title. I've been listening to his work a lot, lately, though. That Tannenbaum recording that was just released.

humid weather is worth a gander

digging the clips of the 'Spit' LP by Ron Morelli, the L.I.E.S. dude, here http://www.phonicarecords.com/product/view/118239

sounds kinda 80s industrial (pre-rock version) but I'm OK w/ that

i've always wanted to say that none of these records touch kevin drumm and l.i.e.s can go fuck itself

why in particular (re L.I.E.S)? don't have any properly formed opinion on the label myself

That Ron Morelli album isn't as good as I hoped it would be. Cool cover though

http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/album/rejections-resin-in-the-filter

This guy is one of my oldest friends. I don't know what to say.

because l.i.e.s. is totally overhyped

That new Rainer Veil ep has at least one track that reminds me of the ambient/dnb edge of old Alec Empire/Christoph de Babalon records

http://joshhall.net/post/81578386910/fascism-and-colonialism-in-the-work-of-cut-hands-and

something that's definitely come to my mind more than a few times

For a white artist to make a record and then claim it is the work of African musicians is to eradicate the work of black musicians.

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surprised it's taken this long for someone to write an article about how "problematic" Cut Hands are.

wtf at shit being sold on BEB web store by known malcontents

I think there are a lot of problems with regressive (for lack of a better term) themes being used to create transgressive art when you're a cis white male, both in the inability for people with a casual interest to tell a difference, and also in that the artists seem to revert to form

Surprised it's taken this long for someone to write an article about how "problematic" Cut Hands are.

sun city girls take-down still in the ether

there was this: http://arabicpress.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/omar-souleymans-rise-to-indie-hipster-semifame

( with response from alan bishop in the comments)

ehh, I think the appropriation is secondary to the fact that it's being done by someone with a history of problematic use of cultural symbols

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qjYUGVfDfo

SCG have had the 'problematic' going over from The Wire in the past decade, it wasn't that convincing iirc, one or both of the Bishops have ethered them in response, it's easily googleable

do you think a middle aged white (1/8th druze!) guy decrying political correctness counts as an ethering? they have some sense that they are always punching up due to the scene they inhabit but i am curious what idk ayesha siddiqui or someone wld make of them

That video? Fuck that guy.

Ugh can there be a "let's point at horrible racists" thread so this one doesn't get all shitted up with irrelevancies?

otm, sorry

No surprise, but the Old Apparatus album from last year is really nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3thwLgPIa0

Would Prostitutes fit in this thread somehow? I've gotten around to listening to this recent album and am enjoying it

The first thing I heard in this vein (thanks to this thread) was Chasing Voices' "Acidbathory" 12", and it's still my favorite thing. Love, love, love that track so much. Got quickly burned out on everything else (and I'm throwing Demdike in there too). Raime peaked with their first 12", BEB started releasing goth records, etc

Any opinions on the Dalhous album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKQzds_9kM

Oake. With abstract female vocals, sort of like Seefeel without any warmth, played at 16 rpm.

Great track.

Samples of the forthcoming Oake album are sounding promising:

http://secretthirteen.org/oake-auferstehung-downwards-review/

http://www.discogs.com/Jan-Grebenstein-Grebenstein-EP/release/6324302

Checking that out on Youtube, it's great! Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcEnJgoVWhM

Opal Tapes is all over the place, but some of their releases are very this-thread.

Thread reminds me I bought the Oake album but still need to listen it.

Tarcar's EP from late last year on Blackest Ever Black is good if you're into the whole BEB thing

Actually everyone who reads this thread is probably into the whole BEB thing

Love that Tarcar EP. I've had a bit of a hard time getting into the Oake album, but I'm still trying. The EP grabbed me right away.

I don't know anything about D​.​Å​.​R​.​F​.​D​.​H​.​S., but I enjoy the weird, dubby, 80s death industrial meets Ekoplekz sound of "Kill All Bullies."

http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/album/d-r-f-d-h-s-killing-is-no-murder

New Samuel Kerridge album is streaming:

http://soundcloud.com/factmag/sets/samuel-kerridge-always-offended-never-ashamed

ooh will check out tomorrow

Did anyone listen to the Drumm/Lescaleet collaboration 'The Abyss'? On the surface it's an ambient noise thing with some quite harsh or jarring frequencies, but after a couple of listens there's definitely more to it than that. Maybe not quite as good as Lambkin & Lescaleet's 'Photographs' from a year or two ago, but well worth a look.

I want more people to like Ekoplekz. So I can talk about Ekoplekz. The new Entropik EP is two long tracks sorta named after Joey Beltram and Spacemen 3 tracks (and sort of vibing along those lines). It's on Spotify.

His instruments hiss and fizz as though they could deliver a nasty shock if improperly handled. Those bass sounds are so fucked up and dirty - in a way this is what I've always secretly wanted dub to sound like. I've always been in love with the idea of Lee Perry or King Tubby surrounded by tape equipment, wrecked'n'repaired electronics, multi-coloured wires spitting out of crust-enfilled sockets in a van or a ramshackle hut somewhere. This kind of takes it to its logical conclusion - creating true dub sounds using the studio itself as an instrument, rather than reconstructing pre-existing recordings.

This is a great descrpiption!

ugh those titles tho

Yeah I'm not too bothered with titles tbh. He tends to get a bit cheesier with his EP titles.

ive downloaded all of his flacs but only played a few of them, the mego one last year is interesting

Ekoplekz is the artist name of Nick Edwards, a 44-year-old property developer from Bristol

theres a forum page somewhere where english people get upset about this lms

i'm into this

https://youtu.be/DzrhsEXFc24

was expecting frankly another deepchord clone; was not expecting him to sound like early conrad schnitzler

i like the new ekoplekz ep

nb there appears to be some psytrance producer called ekoplex who i found by accident

so is the robert rental track, which is mandatory if u call a track that

I first heard of Ekoplekz stuff through that woebot blog, and then from a friend who was interested in synth experimentation, and finally actually heard stuff on a Mordant Music compilation. I think he codes a lot more as experimental/weird than as dub techno.

"deepchord clone" being an intriguing state since they're really kind of a flattened down version of a handful of basic channel tracks

and yet, and yet

naw i'm into dc/echospace/intrusion/et al but the list of epigonal derivatives is unending

basic channel is too elemental to listen to regularly, feel like they are more of a procrustean bed for this kind of stuff than sth to be enjoyed on their own for v long

i never get tired of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeV6RtcpqTQ

have you ever gotten into the silent season stuff? I haven't really, yet, but heard good things

i dl'ed and listened to a few segue releases a couple years ago and still listen to "pacifica" every now and then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHswVBmIHAI

he's since put out two more albums that i hadn't noticed prob bc i went about that long w/o a computer

they're doing some sort of showcase at this festival in boulder, colorado. thought about going. charles cohen also playing.

i am so shit abt following new releases, 2013 was pretty much the last year i was keeping up and completely fell off the wagon over the past year in favor of diving into artist discogs

I keep up on nothing, I think my listening is pretty much concentrated on a few things, then I see some other things live and fall into those

I dont keep up with anything, only what i find in the woods

that remix of model 500 is ok nowhere near the original or maurizio mix

ok BUT nowhere near

i think the whole remix album is wonderful, maybe the best deepchord thing outside of the linkwood "miles away" remixes.

ekoplekz not my thing at all.. i'd be down to listen to some ilm-er curated best-of, though.

that elemental quality of basic channel is exactly what makes them so endlessly listenable

if if you want a good context for a bunch of basic channel, that Scion mix is still amazing
http://www.discogs.com/Scion-Arrange-And-Process-Basic-Channel-Tracks/release/43996

btw... stroboscopic artefacts ^_^

yeah that mix is fucking rad

i still haven't figured out what kevin drumm has to do w/ any of this

dismal spooky ambience

i think i made myself allergic to drone stuff with too many all-night essay writing jags being soundtracked by it

New Ekoplekz is kinda early-IDM sounding and I'm finding it less interesting tbh. Bring back lo-fi retrofuturisms.

Digging this though

http://unknownprecept.bandcamp.com/album/failed-devotee

"Charity" sounds like a low-tech 1980 remix of a Cabaret Voltaire song from 2x45.

spamming the board, but i'm excited about this show

https://www.facebook.com/events/911799622188790/

https://vimeo.com/127348911

This new Michael Vallera record kinda sounds like outtakes from Seefeel's "Succour" with the tempo dialed way, way down:

http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/album/michael-vallera-distance

Raime's new album is very good. It's by no means dance music but it reminds me a lot of the most stripped back dread UK dance tracks of the last 25 years

Artists like D1, Jon E Cash, Shackleton etc

I wasn't incredibly into it but saw them live, loud, and it grew on me

New Kaumwald EP is pretty cool, definitely Opal Tapes-appropriate (scudding beats, uneasy ambiance, lots of subtle weird touches you only notice on headphones)

http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/album/kaumwald-rapa-nui-clan

https://soundcloud.com/glistening-labs/autumn-leaves-october-2014

Jason Lescalleet - Autumn Leaves (October 2014)

listening to actual kevin drumm while at work and it's helping me tune out distractions

luv 2 drone

https://soundcloud.com/kalligrammofon/death-and-vanilla-vampyr-side

streaming off of that Lescalleet track, another thing that reminds me of "This Foundry"

so, how about this Grebenstein release?
https://boomkat.com/products/stong-proud-stupid-and-superior

I like Grebenstein. I'm not too sure about this new Raime, though, it sounds like a tribute to Photek circa The Hidden Camera. In fact it just makes me want to listen to The Hidden Camera.

i've been loving the raime album so much this winter (after initially dismissing it). play it almost every morning

It's one of those albums where every track sounds the same but in a good way

I loved the EPs & Quarter Turn to distraction, but somehow didn't engage with Tooth. I need to go back to it.

I think I posted this Rorqual album on another thread, but it's probably worth sharing here for it's creeping, oozy ambience with occasional leaden beats.

http://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/sei-ci

It kind of reminds me of the electronic stuff on Sigma Editions (Parmentier and Minit specifically) through a darker lens.

this Contort Yourself label is really cool, lots of bangin industrial techno

https://www.discogs.com/label/770902-Contort-Yourself

i really like this Finding The Floor album by Profligate from a few years back.. moody industrial stuff
https://www.discogs.com/Profligate-Finding-The-Floor/master/787275

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXuvx7fDe0Q

New Kevin Drumm album is also very nice. https://kevindrumm.bandcamp.com/album/october-early-warning

i really want that new contort yourself 80's tape comp! but i can't be buying stuff right now. worth it just for this track alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqCqOZkuAw

this tv show on TNT, Good Behavior, keeps using Raime music as ominous soundtrack music and it’s passed cognitive dissonance into nodding to dark grooves

Listening to old Hecate EPs and when she wasn't going 300 bpm breakcore she kinda had a proto-this-thread thing happening. On "The Payback" w/Kareem the track "Medusal" has that clanging drums and dubby reverb thing happening.

man I should read my posts before I click it looks like I know six words

There's a lot of stuff on Kareem's Zhark label worth checking out, actually, if you like crunchy beats, dark ambient or harder industrial techno.

Kinda love this and don’t know where to put it

https://youtu.be/EtFFpznPmbI

Oooh, that's nice. Seems like it fits in here!

So really, does anyone know who Chasing Voices is?

― matt2, Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:13 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nick Klein is maybe more beat-y but

https://summerisle.bandcamp.com/album/id-rather-sit-alone

cold vocals and noisy abstract industrial

https://chondriticsound.bandcamp.com/album/embodiment-2

Am I the only one who cares about this?

https://pitchfork.com/news/blackest-ever-black-shuts-down-issues-final-album/

(also, great graphic accompanying the piece)

No reason is given for ending the label, but I guess we can speculate

I had no idea! What a bummer, I loved that label.

That's a shame. They've put out some cracking stuff.

Favourite BEB release anyone?

I'd probably go for the Flaming Tunes album

It'd be Quarter Turns Over A Living Line for me. A beast of a record.

So, farewell then Blackest Ever Black. As the label is no more I thought I'd out the fact I had a secret project on there & released a 10" & an album under the alias Tomorrow The Rain Will Fall Upwards a few years ago. I'm going to make it available as a free download next month.

— Optimo (Espacio) (@JDTwitch) November 21, 2019

Well I'll be darned

xp Quarter Turns was so good. Lately I've been listening to a lot of Carla dal Forno and the most recent Bremen album. And they reissued that Caroline K album a while back. I'm one of the few people who liked Jabu I guess.

And this!

https://blackesteverblack.bandcamp.com/album/sekundenschlaf

I guess BEB slowly morphed into Low Company: https://www.lowcompany.co.uk

The shop is killer and the weekly mailouts are highly recommended.

Very strong output on the house imprint also. Particularly that Brannten Schnüre LP:
https://www.discogs.com/label/1450606-Low-Company

http://alteredtapedstates.bandcamp.com/album/flickering-lyghte-in-campsite