Lana Del Rey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uKl3xeBVY4

New thread, because this might wrongfully be forgotten in a year or two. Because there is no mention of her on ILM so far apart from mine. Because I want to marry and have steamy sex with and cry over this brilliant song. Because I have played it on repeat endlessly. Because David Lynch should take note. Because it is fantastic.

yes plz. ILG got there first btw.

ILG? Point me towards it plz

rolling thread of stuff worth reading on videogames

Did not catch that, but we seem to agree on this on a deep fundamental level Mordy <3

Not until October when this song gets a vinyl release. There's no EP or LP yet, either. Agony.

song is so gorgeous.

great song.
came to it via pitchfork via grizzly bear.

Link doesn't work for me (not after deleting the first part of it).

I tried and tried and made a lame attempt reviving a slowcore thread earlier today but I cannot classify this song, which is really for the best. My song of the year so far, no doubt.

i'll cosign that -- helps that i haven't heard much i love this year, but this really is amazing + beautiful. a little cat power'y, no?

If that is true I have to listen to way more Cat Power! I keep thinking Nancy Sinatra for some reason.

"i heard you like the bad girls honey / is that true?" destroys me every time

Hah! So true... me too...

Holy shit this song. October, really? Fuck! WILL BUY LIKE FIVE HUNDRED TIMES.

me three re: that line

this is a great song

i am SUPER IMPRESSED by this song

what else is there out there by her?

the stuff i'm reading suggested a nellie mckay angle, press wise

Whoah, this might be the first time the Lex is as impressed by a song as I am! Good times :-)

There's only two or three songs out there. Will be released in October on vinyl and mp3

Wow, what a smoky little thunderstorm of a song! Youtube-to-mp3 converted immediately. Wish I was still in a position in life where I could freely abuse nyquil, cause I could totally see drinking half a bottle and listening to this on repeat for 3 hours.

adding to the chorus here; this song is marvelous

I mean, goddamn

can't really find a single coherent thought to express about this song — after "pull up in your fast car, whistlin' my name" everything goes black w/ multicolored streaks of stars

... I suppose I'll go ahead and lay this card on the table tho: how much 'irony', if any, do y'all hear in her delivery?

Hmm. Her delivery is deliciously knowing, but I don't think it's disingenuous.

Will be released in October on vinyl and mp3.

Bah. I get that vinyl fits her aesthetic, but eschewing CD will be a cruel blow to those of us who don't own turntables but do care about sound quality.

"i heard you like the bad girls honey / is that true?" destroys me every time

so much

"diet mtn dew" is excellent too

i have a few residual suspicions about what i suspect is a shtick, as well as the very conveniently simultaneous way she's been noticed by critics, but these are quality, quality songs

Uploaded by LanaDelRey on May 27, 2011
www.facebook.com/lanadelrey
HOLLYWOOD SADCORE

hopefully the attention del rey gets will give me an opportunity to wave fiona apple in people's faces again, at least

This song is beautiful...

Also liking this a lot, with bernard snowy on the excellence of that first line.

Bah. I get that vinyl fits her aesthetic, but eschewing CD will be a cruel blow to those of us who don't own turntables but do care about sound quality.

― Vast Halo, Sunday, August 7, 2011 9:54 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

I don't know if there won't be a CD, but at least there will be an mp3 and vinyl.

So chuffed this is getting love here!

i can't remember the last time i kept having to come back to a song so much on the first day i heard it

<3

Me too. Tirelessly repeating it.

just got in and literally the first thing i did was go to my computer to play the youtube video - my groceries are still sitting on the floor

I like this song but I'm getting a promotional street team vibe off of this thread...

I'm as unnerved as anyone by the seemingly unanimous consensus (+ as lex aptly put it, "residual suspicions about what i suspect is a shtick")... but at the same time, it really *does* feel like this totally unique, amazing, timely song that just... appeared from nowhere.

I've only ('only') played it like a half-dozen times today tho, and am trying to balance my desire for further listening against my desire to adopt a more critical and self-aware position in said listening (I get suspicious when something seems "too good to be true"). not that I'm rushing to be the first one to burst the internet echo chamber's bubble of irrational exuberance; just that I'd like to deconstruct my own and other people's reactions to this (very very good) piece of music in order to understand *why* it's hitting us all so hard.

off the top of my head, start with
—the ever-present mystique of the total blank-slate unknown artist, who is doing
—a well-done pastiche(?) of a much-loved style that is not especially popular or prominent at the moment, coupled with
—a strikingly original video that supports the aesthetic of the song (i.e. doesn't just feel like a gimmick), while also giving it
—an unmistakably contemporary 'twist'; all topped off with
—a hot girl, who is
—singing about video games, but also
—love,
—love,
—glorious bittersweet terrible love

I really hope this gets released as a one-sided 12" single that plays on 45rpm, because I'd buy the shit out of that.

Don't really wanna be friends with anyone who could hear this song and not melt.

This is great and I did melt. But I composed myself enough to play it again. Four times in a row.

http://radioexile.com/2008/10/27/spotlight-on-lizzy-grant/#more-75976

Kill, Kill: http://www.spinner.com/2008/12/18/lizzy-grant-kill-kill-video-of-the-day/

nice find! song's not bad either

http://coxy.co/post/8443458829/i-recently-posted-a-music-video-for-video-games-by

Will be released in October on vinyl and mp3

or you can get the instrumental karaoke version right now

fucking awful video

Just wanna put it out there that I posted this video to WS back in early June to no fanfare.

Also I heard a joke:
Q: how'd the hipster burn his mouth?
A: he ate pizza before it was cool.

^^knew i'd seen it before

It’s hardly a shock that her music so far is so diverse given all the people she’s been in the studio with over the past year, some of whom include Eg White (Adele, Duffy), Chris Braide (Cheryl Cole, Paloma Faith), Guy Chambers (Robbie Williams, Katie Melua), and newcomers Robopop (Neon Hitch, Gym Class Heroes).

I’m not sure if Miss Del Rey has landed a major label record deal yet (I’m sure she probably has and is just waiting to announce it), but she’s under the same PR company in the UK as Adele and Bjork, so the wheels are certainly in motion.

none of those names she's been in the studio with are remotely promising :/

Digging through other songs - none as mesmerising as Videogames, and a lot more obvious schtick, though all good so far. I see her triggering the same kind of responses as Nellie McKay and Janelle Monae but I'm not sure how deep this goes and whether it will lead to a great album (feel free to step in here and say McKay and Monae didn't make great debuts either, and I will disagree). Working with Guy Chambers or Eg White is a bad sign.

That's a weird selection of producers considering the styles of music that I've heard on the youtubes.

Purple PR iirc? Where's that quote from Lex?

I am still pondering on a reply to the wonderful and interesting comments left by Bernard Snowy. I don't think I'm ready yet to go into speculation or unravelling the whole marketing thing, if any. I do deeply dread the h*pster word has already shown up on this thread...

Yeah Bernard's being v smart. I'm still taking that song in - I haven't had time to develop any critical thoughts.

Whatever's going on with the marketing, and may go wrong en route to the album, doesn't take an atom of marvellousness away from Video Games.

bateau - it's from some blog that i'm not gonna link cuz the last time i encountered them they were calling me a bitter bitch, lol. first page of google results if you google lana del rey, though.

i've heard two other songs and i think i enjoy "diet mtn dew" almost as much as "video games", but the latter has that extra something about it that just stops you in your tracks...

i don't think del rey is as invested in being funny or weird as mckay or monáe. i did really enjoy that first nellie mckay album though.

Ok understood Lex ;) Thanks.

I found the album she recorded a couple of years ago under her real name, Lizzy Grant. I'll make it available here tonight when back from work, if people are interested. I've not heard everything from it, but I agree with Lex that while Video Games takes the cake, the other songs aren't particularly filler, they all wave something about them. On the whole there a lot of interesting things about her music and I think she's definitely got a great album in her, too. Especially the song 'Yayo' is very, very good.

I need to check out the Nellie McKay album now, too, don't I?

wave=have

Just wanna put it out there that I posted this video to WS back in early June to no fanfare.

Also I heard a joke:
Q: how'd the hipster burn his mouth?
A: he ate pizza before it was cool.

― jaxon, Monday, August 8, 2011 3:17 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

that's interesting, tho—do you remember where/how you found the video?

also, one more thing to add (and only because somebody called me "smart" <3) — for me, thinking about this kind of industry/marketing/PR stuff in no way takes away from the music. especially because, as y'all so quickly discovered, this is very much a 'relaunch' of a talented artist who failed to make a splash 3 years ago, given higher production values and a new name and a makeover.

I mean, the most widely-voiced complaint at this point seems to be "ewww ridiculous ducklips, what possessed you to do this to yourself???"; which is true, but does nothing to take away from the heartbreaking emotion of a song that goes "it's you it's you it's all for you / everything I do / [...] / go play your video games".

also, lol@her (self?)description as "hollywood sadcore" and "gangster nancy sinatra"

also also also I need a bigger vocab

aw Bernard <3

"ewww ridiculous ducklips, what possessed you to do this to yourself???"

i was going to post this exact complaint.

I think her lips are cute.

aye i love disfigurement.

But anyway, we don't have to rehash the youtube comments section here.

The thing that struck me about the three Lizzie Grant songs I heard was how much they sorta harkened back to the early 2000s for me, sonically. I mean, Video Games, the way I'm hearing it now when it's fresh, sort of shimmers out of a timeless ethereal pool. Gramma, Yayo, and Kill Kill just really hit me the way they would have blended in well with what I was listening to back then (a lot of Dan the Automator-type, downtempo/pop shit, basically).

(that opinion being formed from just one listen though - I don't know exactly what I'm getting at with it)

The string arrangement is the secret weapon of Video Games, love it so much.

Does anybody know what the videogame clips in the video are?

Gramma, Yayo, and Kill Kill just really hit me the way they would have blended in well with what I was listening to back then (a lot of Dan the Automator-type, downtempo/pop shit, basically).

― kkvgz, Monday, August 8, 2011 7:54 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

otm

I'm pretty sure Nancy Sinatra is the gangster Nancy Sinatra.

lol, i thought that when i first read the 'gangster nancy sinatra' thing

I found the album she recorded a couple of years ago under her real name, Lizzy Grant. I'll make it available here tonight when back from work, if people are interested.

Le Bateau Ivre - was this more than just the three songs I mentioned above?

Also want to note that I'm beginning to get a troubling feeling that beyond all the songwriting and vocal tricks and cool collage videos, that I actually like this because I'm some kind of flippin' creepo perv or something.

Yes, nearly 20 songs! No-one responded though and therefore I forgot about... If you're interested I'll hook you up tonight.

far out. I definitely want to hear more of this. thanks!

IDGI. It just sounds like slowed down Mazzy Star with harp samples on it. It's just so... nothingy.

I dunno, maybe I'm not in the right place emotionally to be listening to music like this, but tired, sleep deprived, emotionally completely strung out... no. It's not hitting anything for me right now.

But I don't know that anything could.

kkvgz, and others interested: http://www.mediafire.com/?tx7lgwnd84874z4

thanks lbi! It downloaded fine. I'll have to listen to it tomorrow morning.

grabbed it -- can't wait to listen

no worries, welcome!

I haven't had the chance to listen to all of these, but I think that I can broadly say that I prefer her "Hollywood slowcore"/torch songs to her more upbeat numbers. Those are reminding me at the moment of the Fun Loving Criminals, although I haven't heard that group in 15 years, so...Anyway, every Tarantino soundtrack she has ever listened to shining through. Actually, as I'm writing this, "raise me up" has come on, which seems to temper those influences a little better.

also, feel like the "lolita" song was not a good loook.

see also "little girls". ugh woman, why did you think we needed pedo-rock?

oof this stuff is no good

Perhaps that's why it was pulled? Maybe her material is undergoing a dramatic retooling for modern times.

Yeah it's not good. I too think it's why they pulled it and why she got a different name.

Like, there are a few good songs, but it's mostly a mess. I'll still look forward to whatever comes our way this fall though.

Just how fast is the turnaround time on these things?

http://open.spotify.com/track/6tywoK1qecGu4azvTFMfpz

i'm pretty much okay with her having just one perfect song

but yeah most of the rest of the new tracks are meh - "you can be the boss" put me in mind of ke$ha :/

yeah other than "Video Games" this girl is largely awful

Fun Loving Criminals ref otm

i'm pretty much okay with her having just one perfect song

This, but I'm a little sad because all of the other songs - as bad as most of them are - do have lots of cool little hooks and tricks and melodies buried in them that I would enjoy listening to except for everything else in the song.

"video games" and "diet mtn dew" are great but to me "buffalo wings" and "sportcenter" are the real emotional center of the album

lol

hahahaha

"LANA DEL REY..."
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Ryland Bouchard.

curious...

o-O

Just found this on Bouchard's facebook:

Ryland Bouchard
I'm sorry to all the fans of Lana Del Rey who are upset that her video was removed from the internet for violating my copyright, but my request to her management was simple...

1) Add an apology to the video description for the unauthorized use 2) A promise that she will try to make a Super 8 video herself in the future with an actual film camera and 3) Credits listed in her youtube video for all the sources in which she violated copyrights (including Disney).

This request was rejected by her manager because it "would draw too much attention" to the fact that the footage was stolen. In any case this issue is resolved and the video has been removed. To watch the original footage from "Good Life #2" released in 2009 feel free to go to the attached YouTube link. I hope everyone is well and enjoying their summer.

All the best,

Ryland Bouchard

I thought those clips were from the Warner Brothers' cartoon Hollywood Steps Out?

't Was a mixed bag, like all her videos. So many fragments of old Hollywood films, Roger Rabbit etc.

Seems silly, she just should have given credit.

i'm pretty much okay with her having just one perfect song

― rameau: first blood (donna rouge), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:15 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

I've been saying the same thing.

Only heard "Videogames" and "Yayo" and tbh it was the latter that gave me a chill (in a good way)

the mazzy star fan in me likes this, but i share everyone's reservations about what's to come.

Luca Montefiori
are there any stems out for a remix of any of your songs, may i humbly ask milady

we recently completed a remix of 'video games'. going through all the separate parts makes it clear what a beautifully-made piece of music it is, not to mention her awesome voice. a real pleasure to work on, and one of the few where we didn't just shiftclick everything except the vocal and hit delete.

not so keen on diet mtn dew but i like the bouncy old soul feel of 'kinda outta luck' - consensus among friends says this will be her BIG hit, in the uk at least. the b-side to VG 'blue jeans' is also awesome, very much looking forward to remixing that.

i think SHE is great too, just those few flickers of her in videos suggests she has the makings of a popstar that people will obsess over.

that ryan bouchard thing is the most hilariously lame shit:

A promise that she will try to make a Super 8 video herself in the future with an actual film camera

haha

She reminds me of April March

I played her in Outloud ILXOR last night. Ppl seemed unmoved.

xp: yes!

(by which I mean, I hadn't thought of that til now, but good insight, Jimmy the Mod.)

also she says "daddy" a lot #talkingpoints

i am not moved by this person's singing, but she has lovely hair
i will say that in addition to "daddy" she seems really focused on "you"
you you you

Idk April March at all -- where do I start w/ her?

she was like 90s ye-ye revival, right?

also she says "daddy" a lot #talkingpoints

― Psyduck is My Spirit Animal (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, September 2, 2011 1:29 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, I wasn't sure if she was earnestly trying to be arousing or if she was trying to provoke an utterly squicked-out reaction. See also:

also, feel like the "lolita" song was not a good loook.

― jon/via/chia/pet 2.0 (kkvgz), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:08 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

see also "little girls". ugh woman, why did you think we needed pedo-rock?

― jon/via/chia/pet 2.0 (kkvgz), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:20 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

daddy not always bad thing cf. Christine McVie

See, in the 1970s, daddy had a weird, slangy, hippie biker vibe. It didn't age well.

Joni too --"oh you're a mean old Daddy but I like you / I like you / I like you"

papi

bigpoppa.mp3

A little surprised nobody's posted this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-XgX_KZJTs

<iframe width="560" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8t-I-Lqy06g"; frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

She kinda slacked on video creativity this time (probably afraid of some ass claiming "copyright violation" again) but love her look and love the song, after a couple listens. The shtick hasn't started annoying me yet.

Hollaa!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t-I-Lqy06g

She needs to learn a new trick and fast. I could go either way on the song, but my first impression is that it's quite lovely.

"video games" and "diet mtn dew" are great but to me "buffalo wings" and "sportcenter" are the real emotional center of the album

― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:16 PM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have a bias towards women who are tragic and glamorous at the same time, so maybe that explains my obsession...but I will say that all of her new songs sound pretty distinct from each other (even vocally), so I'm not worried about her music itself getting old yet.

Just to clarify, I was talking about her videos getting old - not her songs.

Blue Jeans is great

reminds me of Shivaree in a way

reminds me of Wicked Game

Yeah, I can hear a little of that in there. This is good. This bodes well for whenever the hell the album is going to drop.

I miss the old "Video Games" video

(of course, I would)

oh yeah and that max tundra cover is wonderful

I was blown away the first time I saw and heard "Video Games." Still listen to the song at least once a day. She just nailed that experience of being ignored no matter what you are willing to offer while your boyfriend is consumed with his friends and their trivial activities. Oh, high school.

I miss the old "Video Games" video

Someone added a genius comment to it, now also sadly lost to posterity: "She could have joined in and played video games with her boyfriend as a bonding experience, but instead she writes this dispiriting song."

I think it's more arch than dispiriting.

shivaree comparison otm! i always thought this song could have been huge in a parallel universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRqUONe_aAI

her wooden performance in that awkward video, which i've only just seen for the first time, can't have helped matters though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6vyytCdYAw

wow Blue jeans is great. I'm hearing some Morphine in her tracks which is always good in my book.

As is the Shivaree stuff. How have I missed her? Did it not make it to British shores.

and a bit of cowboy junkies too

i don't think shivaree made it anyway (they're a band, the singer is ambrosia parsley) (#greatrealnames). first two albums are great, don't think i heard anything after that.

*anywhere

Thanks for the Shivaree links Lex!

I dig Blue Jeans. Shame Video Games/Blue Jeans are only properly released in October, probably meaning a proper full-length will take a long time to appear.

Goodnight Moon was no.1 in Italy! Also plays over the closing credits to Kill Bill.

yeah man shivaree comparison soooo otm... had totally forgotten abt them

man, I don't like her uptempo numbers at all, but way impressed with the gloomy / slow / sad / sexy ones

Shivaree was played by Mark & Lard iirc. But yeah she sounds the same. I love Blue Jeans; the rest I've heard I kind of tune out after a while.

yeah I think the uptempo ones are older. At least the whole thing she's going for seems to be a bit more realised in video games/blue jeans. Blue jeans being stronger by a country mile too

"goodnight moon" is one of my all-time favorite songs - just perfect in every way

I'm hearing some Jimmie Dale Gilmore in there, too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mQvHXRlZE

I seem to end up humming 'Angelene' by PJ Harvey after listening to 'blue jeans' which is usually a sign to me that they sound similar in some way. Anyone else hear this?

don't really get the cat power comps. EMA is the most cat powery of new ppl out i think; i find LDR to be more calculated

I'm SURE I'm the only one who heard this connection, but the two note, sing-songy melody line at the beginning of Video Games reminded me of the intro to this Cockney Rebel song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWdhYGXQt8

i dunno about this... "video games" is pretty pretty. dare i say it, the whole aesthetic is "annoying"

good thing to bug some of the people

This is pretty sad tbh
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qLIL0BzayYQ/Ti79mVyL03I/AAAAAAAAAW0/D9EJo0DCJiI/s320/rob-lizzy.jpg

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/800/lana-del-ray-hot-nude-video.jpg

her whole makeover (and I just mis-typed that as "whore" makeover lol :\ ) is... off putting

You mean like putting off any work to watch Lana del Rey vids all day?

idgi, Number None, what is that?

That's a pic of her and her dad from like 4 years ago.

why is it sad

Cos of what she looks like now?

well i for one am so happy you're sad for her

this world is too harsh not to have strangers sad for us when we change the way we look

Don't really know what you're getting at man

lol i just watched "video games" (instead of just listening) -- the clip of paz de la huerta in a gutter @ 1:55 kind of gives the game away, dunnit

it's nothing Bowie didn't do surely, or near as dammit? a massive amount of this is cause she's a girl lest that needed saying. she had her lips slightly plumped up?? Jesus, big freakin deal.

i think bob dylan's had work done

I think seeing the lyrics written out in text speak was the "kind of gives the game away" moment 4 me

what "game" are we talking about here?

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k202/bshirk/TurtlesInTimeTheOriginal.jpg

If you haven't heard of Lana Del Rey, YOU WILL SOON because we are convinced that this gorgeous crooner is going to be everywhere ASAP, like basically by the time this post is published. ZOMG she is so important. Anyway, this self-proclaimed "gangster Nancy Sinatra" embodies the best of strong, sculpted eyebrows, bump-its + hairsprayed tonsorial PERFECTION, and we can SO vividly picture her swanning out of a beautiful Hollywood Hills house with a kidney bean-shaped swimming pool in an ultramarine nylon mini shift and white patent leather go-go boots.

AND a big-ass dookie rope chain and gold hoops. She is also, obviously, drinking something out of a martini glass. She describes her sound as "Hollywood Pop/Sad Core" and uuuuuuum #sadcore is VERY up our alley. The enormously satisfying juxtaposition of old-school glamour plus inexplicably morose contemporary images in her music video plus super-duper prettiness is completely blowing our minds.

We can't get enough of her video for "Video Games" because not only are our ears oh so happy with her Florence meets Cat Power meets A Fine Frenzy melodies, but we also really need more retro off-the-shoulder sweaters in our lives and closets. Thankfully, we're positive that this isn't the last we've seen of Lana. And PRAISE BE, because her style strikes such a unique and perfect balance between classic beauty and refreshingly unexpected (do you have EYEBALLS? Are you SEEING that top made COMPLETELY of roses/carnations/I'm not a horticulturist???) that is just so ready for its place in the sun. Now run along and entertain yourselves for a while with the video below while we go dig up some hot rollers and lip venom. Swooooooooooooooooon.

barf

old stuff - Hipster Runoff's been monitoring the situation pretty closely...

(xpost) Holy hell, that PR is real!

Kind of think she's been designed for the crepey dudes who've been fantasizing about a late 60s Sally Draper.

that's not PR, that's from an mtv.com blog post

not sure if that makes it better or worse tho

is that mtv.com blog post sincere?

that's an... interesting question

hmmm yeah i didn't notice the "lip venom" line until you said that

https://twitter.com/#!/gorillavsbear/status/114395525553467392

haha those two are p much twitter fighting non-stop

1000TimesYes Chris Weingarten
@gorillavsbear U always struck me as a reformed jock who discovered Smashing Pumpkins in college so no shock that you like sorority indie

lol #shotsfired

lol @ gvb having a verified twitter account

the state of music criticism in 2011 xxp

ha. thought that said "lol @ gbv having a verified twitter account"...

how do you prove that you are in fact a gorilla fighting a bear

what is gorilla vs bear? nm i'm not actually interested

seems striking that most of the UK critics i follow on twitter LOVE ldr and most of the US critics HATE her

yeah we like good music here, american tradition

she has one good song, and one not good song

also she had plastic surgery!

we report, you decide

she has many more songs than that but i only really like one of them (haven't heard "blue jeans" yet)

I think "Video Games" is pretty good. I haven't searched out much else by her. I like sad, moody chanteuses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6M4UJ6kzjk

That Eilen Jewell album is excellent. One of the best of the year.

"blue jeans" is good but "video games" is the one that's stuck in my head ALL THE TIME.

waiting for pitchfork to disown lana & pan the fuck out of her album once they see light

http://usera.ImageCave.com/Vast_Halo/4haters.jpg

Probably the worst thing to happen this year.

meh not feeling any of these songs at all. And I usually like sad moody chanteuses.

(That Ellen Jewell sounds lovely though - hadn't heard of HER, thanks!)

haha, here comes the inevitable ldr backlash!

god, I wish there had been a sufficient forwardlash.

I thought she sucked right away, any artist I find out about through kotaku is on shaky ground

i don't read any of those sites. i just clicked teh youtubez cuz people whose tastes i respect were saying nice things about her. as far as i'm concerned, she's just a chick with some songs; i don't really care whether she's defrauding any indie kids with her lips/name/label attention.

i'm so sick of the whole "fake!!!!!" brush that indies tar certain artists with anyway. life is not a husker du concert; put away your carbon-paper zines and mail-order tapes and enjoy something of dubious provenance for once without feeling guilty.

yeah. the "sorority indie" comment has had me stewing.

If the lips don't fit, you must acquit...

Kind of think she's been designed for the crepey dudes who've been fantasizing about a late 60s Sally Draper.

― Stevie T, Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:06 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

Love this.

Also crepey dudes are the worst!

I could care less if she's fake or not, she just sucks, what ponderous garbage

Lol carbon paper zines, wtf are you talking about

Btw kotaku is the most popular video game site, its got nothing to do with indie

I love 'Video Games', the other songs less so. The execution, if not the actual style, reminds me a bit of Goldfrapp, and what I think of as Moodboard Pop. I take my hat off to the stylist/art director - who knows, maybe Lana herself! - who've conjured up Rita Hayworth + Ann-Margret + Bobbie Gentry x Mazzy Star ÷ David Lynch. But the algebra for the songs is a bit more tricky.

The production on "Video Games" is better than her singing, particularly after the first minute. She doesn't sound too convincing at a few parts.

ya I don't really care about dumb indie blog wars (fwiw lip work or not, she's gorgeous and the videos are great), I just don't think her songs are that good - or maybe it's just the way she's singing them that's bugging me. I dunno, I haven't really pinpointed what I don't like about her yet, but I'm def not hearing whatever everyone else is.

New York-based songwriter Lizzy Grant was set to debut her Lana Del Rey moniker with a pair of shows in New York City and Los Angeles later this month. But an issued press release now reports that those plans has been temporarily postponed so that these shows can be moved to large venues. The new dates will be announced on Lana Del Rey’s Facebook page next week.

lol complications from plastic surgery

I could care less if she's fake or not, she just sucks, what ponderous garbage rules, what great music

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, September 17, 2011 10:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I actually dig Videogames almost just for using skate footage when it's been so taboo since Mandy Moore/Avril Lavigne kinda signed it's death as "things dudes do to impress girls"

I mean, yeah, but - no... skateboarding is, if anything, like nerds and their literal videogames... girls aren't only excluded, they're not even an afterthought.

/11thgrademusings

oh shi - i neglected panda bear's a fairly big skateboarding aficionado (ollie noises in...take pills, is it?) but otherwise it's not something i've seen much dared in videos since. not since this anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4e-eXWbbs

I mean, yeah, but - no... skateboarding is, if anything, like nerds and their literal videogames... girls aren't only excluded, they're not even an afterthought.

Yeah - that was my response to that footage as well, and one of the elements of the video that makes it work. And I still think it's an awfully pretty song.

Below, watch the video for "Blue Jeans", the B-side to her BNT'd song "Video Games".

What the hell does "BNT'd" mean?

bridge n tunnel?
best new 'tube?

where i'm from, "bridge 'n' tunnel"!

haha xpost

Oh, It's probably Best New Track. The quote was from pitchfork. I get it.

Gawker says things:

http://gawker.com/5842924/hipster-music-blogs-need-to-get-over-their-authenticity-problem

Do check out the comments, though.

"Her music is great"

stopped reading there

"Her music is great"

http://i.imgur.com/e2kKN.jpg

(i don't really have an opinion atm tbh)

"They think that because they live outside of the mainstream they are somehow immune to advertising, marketing, and the other forms of mind control "the man" uses to get them to buy things"

like collagen

"the man" is always trying to sell me collagen. I can't take it anymore. I'm going off grid.

Found out she's performing in Amsterdam on November 10th. Got all excited till I realised I will be here already.

THANKS A LOT ÓWEN P!

;)

huge missed opportunity to have Final Fantasy guest strings on Video Games.

might regret posting this but here's our remix of VG - as far as i can tell it's the first *proper* remix of her to come out (by proper i mean not just a youtube rip with dubstep wub or trance squeals slapped on top)

http://soundcloud.com/clubclique/lana-del-rey-video-games-club

Nice!

Oohh yeah I like that!

Oh, no. The song's supposed to be melancholy and lonely, and they've overcrowded it and made it peppy. And she isn't singing with a strong voice in this song, so it gets overwhelmed by all the noise around it.

glad some people like it! cheers.

Sorry - I didn't mean to be so blunt! We might have been approaching the song from different perspectives.

I think disco has probably been guilty of this crime before. : )

Lonely bittersweet vocals over bouncy disco is one of the greatest sounds in popular music though.

Good, sensitive remix. The chord changes on this song still slay me every time.

I think I see thinveneer's point, but "The song's supposed to be melancholy and lonely"; yes, and that's why there's the original song. A/this remix doesn't have to follow this same road though does it?

Remixes should definitely be free to produce a different feel of the song (that's the point), and I like it when it's done well. I'm not totally dumping on this - I just think the balance is slightly off, and therefore we lose her the depressive quality in her vocals. She's hurting, and it doesn't come through.

that should be: "lose the depressive quality"

yeah, sweet chords and melody too, but my favourite part is when the audio from the video clips bleeds through. that's really powerful, not sure why....

i sorta hope that when this gets a real release those extra audio clips are still on it

yeah, me too. not sure it would have the same impact though. especially if you'd never seen the vid.

vid's back up btw, different link than at top of thread. don't tell monsieur bouchard....

that remix is like 1 million times better than the original, good job!

Expected to hate the remix but yeah man, this rules.

cheers! some nice comments here, thanks a lot everyone. just spent an age reswizzling and syncing our version with her video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCo9o2b17nA

(my aim wasn't to spam but it's hovering just outside hype machine's top 20 at the moment, spare a couple of longtime ilx bros a heart if you've got a sec: http://hypem.com/#!/popular )

yeah, that is an epic remix

she says "gaaymes' just like chad warden

#pstriple

Oh, I like it so much more with the video! I didn't feel her presence enough in just the remix. I felt her voice got lost and therefore what she was trying to emote was lost as well, but seeing her solves that.

I really like the original but the remix takes it to a different level. Great work.

myself and NI have been hypreventilating slightly this weekend as we've watched it climb from the 20s to the teens into the Top 5 on Hype's chart. currently standing at number 4 with only Benny Benassi's Florence remix, the new Rihanna and some joker called 'Dirtyphonics' stood in the way.

A+ work on that remix, your remix of "rill rill" is also really something

everything should be disco

great remix. Got a heart from me. Congrats!

love that clique remix! love how it's the opposite of "brings out the inner melancholy of this pop song", it's a reminder that beneath the surface melancholy of "video games" is a pretty romantic, blissed-out song

hey thanks gang! we ended up number 3 on Hype Machine behind Rihanna and Florence just before the traditional 3 day expiry/ get-kicked-off point. cruel but fair. we've just finished a remix for Blue Jeans which i think is incredible.

omg just heard the remix: it's GREAT !

Rhythmically speaking, I'm not quite sure that Lana's vocals are quite right for a disco track, but that's not the remix's fault, far from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHh6Urc3YfY&eurl

ugh... wtf

yeah sorry its dumb

Funny.

know one talking abt HRO's #shots @ nabisco

oh god who would ever

http://soundcloud.com/woon/lana-del-rey-video-games-jamie (woon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF7MV4zVPKI

That's... unimpressive.

yo i herd you like the bad girls honey
so i put the bad in your girl so you can bad while you girl

my Twitter feed has just exploded because she was on Jools Holland in the UK. according to Pop Justce, the Video Games/Blue Jeans EP has been Top 5 on iTunes in the states by all accounts, and number 1 in France and Ireland.

she just eye fucked me

through the camera

otm

Is it just me, or was that performance really, really awful? The way she slips in and out of the cooing voice and the, erm, adventurous approach to the song's melody...I love this song more than anything, but this performance...yikes.

^otm (for me, at least). Idk, it all seemed a little "stiff" perhaps? Also really got a "singer playing a singer singing" feel from it. And I genuinely love that song too.

don draper:his new fiance::indie rock critics:lana del rey

teeth:lips in that analogy.

Yeah, her voice seemed so shakey/weak at times....

yo i herd you like the bad girls honey
so i put the bad in your girl so you can bad while you girl

― banana mogul (goole), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:19 (Yesterday) Bookmark

roffle

i like stevie's "moodboard pop" coinage a lot

personally find it kinda boring how crepes will react to even the most obvious thing on that moodboard

the plastic surgery is probably my fave bit, like la confidential right?

super special ilm hypocrisy ts: ldr vs teh weeknd

What is the teh-dream to ldr's teh weeknd in that controversial analogy?

actual nancy sinatra?

Videogames should've used anime footage instead of Google Video nostalgia.

Aw she was just nervous!

I'm sort of surprised at how unpoised she looked, actually. Shifting from foot to foot like a high school drama club hopeful. Thought her voice was great.

mm me too. it was her live tv debut on the biggest music show in the country so i mean nerves? yeah you'd probably expect that.

If it were Pop Idol the judges would be like, good stuff but you gotta OWN THE STAGE.. but well, it's kind of nice to see somebody who isn't just full-on and brash and cockily sashaying around, straight out the gate

Kind of think nervous girl behind huge hair/lashes/lips is part of the LDR "shtick".

haha well i guess it's workin on me

Man, she comes across totally unpolished in interviews, and I love her all the more for it.
At this point, I can't decide if she's going to blow up in a huge, huuuuge way or if she's just gonna be one of those quirky pop divas beloved by a large if not psychotic number of people.

I definitely see her being bigger in Europe than she will be in the States...there's something a little off about her that will keep her from being massive here (assuming her record company/PR team don't flatten all of her quirks).

single was Top 5 in U.S. iTunes chart last week apparently. supposedly headed for the actual Top 10 over here also.

the ep was top 5 in the itunes albums list i believe, i don't think the track itself has popped up on the singles list. i also think she will be bigger in europe (in the uk certainly things are looking good)

I'm very late with this but Club Clique's remix is fantastic as is their remix of the B-side.

i hate to say it but i think a not-insignificant part of the success of "video games" is the fact that the title has a tech angle to it

because it's intriguing and generates youtube views?

i think the song is all about the chorus

top 10 with a bullet in the UK!

y'all are being awfully apologetic towards a singer who's supposed to be next great white-girl-what-sings-like-a-black-girl savior

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00659/news-graphics-2008-_659690a.jpg

lord

Jimmy Jimmy... who says she's supposed to sound black? what black singer does she sound like? i mean... to me she sounds like iris dement and jimmie dale gilmore had an asthmatic child, but in a good way

Is she supposed to sound black? News to me! Performing on "Later" she looked really really nervous.

Oh great. As if the arguments over this girl weren't boring enough, now we've inserted white guilt.

Or black pride, depending how you look at it.

Pride != slamming a singer for sounding like "you" if you happen to be black.

(also, lots of people throwing around this accusation do happen to be white)

edwardo, my post was completely not coming from a position of even being remotely serious.

I did think you were being somewhat flippant, but, y'know, even more backwards stances find fruit on here so you can never tell.

Could see Marianne Faithfull, even now, covering Video Games.

video games: more 6th form music tech college music, pretty song, awful production. has a similar innocent "this is the first good song i wrote" vibe what that xx album had

would like to hear erykah badu do a wink wink cover in the style of i'm the one era annette peacock

mr fingers remix is the most tossed off thing ever, vocal phrasing is hilarious

interscope

"peace out, indiesphere! i'll be over here getting some of that drug-runner money!"

Iovine probably had her and Tyler in for a meeting two years back and went "Got a plan."

i didn't really think of her as 'indie'

Me neither - in the British sense at least - but there was a lot of discussion/promotion/hype on indie blogs.

73% of all indie blogs are written by virgins

'Blue Jeans' reminds me of something but I can't put my finger on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-34w8kGPM

?

blue jeans = wicked games

or, wicked game. whatever the chris isaac song is called.

Plus she channels some kind of Kate Bush and Gwen Stefani thing

Ooof that Jools performance was a disaster.

I guess it doesn't help when you build yourself up as a "Gangsta Nancy Sinatra" but I expected a little more self-confidence and less "Someone please get this poor lady off the stage before she pisses herself in fear".

nancy sinatra was already the gangsta nancy sinatra

i don't know who "built her up" as that though? whoever it was they had the wrong end of the stick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwL7f57cDJY&feature=related

Of course it's not her TV debut, which I would expect an artist to be nervous but I rather hear this type of voice on the Jools show than the shtick she is doing with it now.

nancy sinatra was already the gangsta nancy sinatra

OTM

i don't know who "built her up" as that though? whoever it was they had the wrong end of the stick

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, October 28, 2011 4:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

she said it herself iirc!

The thing that annoys me is picking two cultural signifiers of cool and self-empowerment to describe someone who lacks the metaphorical balls to sing on TV. Maybe she's so obsessed with fame that she psyched herself out because OMG TV.

haha she totally has the wrong end of her own stick!!

At least I don't have to read "think" pieces about Zooey Deschanel suckiness anymore - the bloggerati have moved on to hating Lana!

In all seriousness, I saw her sing "Video Games" at a concert on YouTube and she sounded great - much better than her Jools Holland performance. Not getting all the hate this woman's receiving (and don't try to explain to me - believe me, I've read the blog posts, blog comments, think pieces and all the other BS surrounding her. And I still. Don't. Get. It.).

I've not read any hate. Show me the hate. It is a great pop song.

i hate the song "video games"

No. You don't.

Hate is only a word used for Robbie Williams songs.

Should clarify: hate is probably a strong word. I'd say an irrational dislike and an all-too-eager willingness to deconstruct/theorize on her persona and use it as a symbol for a bunch of random concepts that I don't know have too much to do with Lana.

A friend and I were discussing this, and we think she pisses people off because she gained prominence on the web through "indie" (God, I hate that word as a descriptor) blogs and when people found out she had help from a prominent PR company and toys with her image/sex appeal they felt they had been duped to believe she was some "authentic" (hate that word too) indie musician and really they all fell for the same marketing ploys that non-indie music consumers do.

grrrr read the damn thread we went over all this shit

until she puts out an album and pitchfork reviews it, and/or her song suddenly rockets up the charts into 'ubiquitous pop hit' status, who cares

""authentic" (hate that word too) indie musician"

is bullshit pretty much most of the time anyway. Don't see the problem.

That stuff doesn't bother me as much as the fact that I feel she is getting massive undeserved coverage because music journos need something to write about. She's very lucky, very much in the right place at the right time. The post-buzzocalypse.

Song is pretty, but mediocre. I could hear it in a car commercial. Her mythos is a goldmine though, but for reasons I care little about.

Music writers writing about music writers writing about music.

it's self-regarding nonsense of course but our Video Games remix is the most popular on the old
Hype Machine. take that Woon, Blake et al..

http://hypem.com/search/lana%20rey/1/?sortby=fav

Deservedly so! Are you remixing any more of her stuff?

1. Lana Del Rey - Video Games (Joy Orbison Remix) (4:59)
2. Kimbra - Cameo Lover (GLOVES Remix) (4:38)
3. Cleo Sol - High (Artful Dub) (5:39)
4. Yasmin - Finish Line (Mike Delinquent Project Remix) (4:28)
5. Artful Feat. Kal Lavelle - Could Just Be The Bassline (Dreem teem remix) (5:43)
6. Natalie May - Clothes Off (3:25)
7. Major Lazer - Baby (Figure Remix) (4:07)
8. RD - Got Me Burnin' (MK Remix) (5:33)
9. Yasmin Ft. Ms. Dynamite - Light Up The World (3:32)
10. Katy B - Witches Brew (5:10)
11. Lana Del Rey - Blue Jeans (Penguin Prison Remix) (5:37)
12. Guido - Beautiful Complication (feat Aarya) (3:56)
13. Jess Mills - Live For What I d Die For (Distance Remix) (5:12)
14. Pandr Eyez - Eyes On You (3:56)
15. Jessie Ware - Strangest Feeling (3:41)
16. Goapele - Play (3:45)
17. Delilah - Go (3:46)
18. Gotye feat. Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know (Bibio remix) (4:55)

works for me...

i checked what this was assuming i'd heard it already, and i had.

it is crap.

xxp yeah we've done Blue Jeans too, should be available soonish.

cracking tonight on the first date of her tour. opening track was a barnstormer.
oh and here's the latest from us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6CnIUYjpqw

Was disappointed that the picture disc single I pre-ordered did not arrive signed, as the first thousand or something were supposed to be. I ordered that shit within minutes of the announcement. Oh well. I still love this song unreasonably, and I guess if it DID come signed, I'd be less "cool, let's jam it again" and more "hmmmm future eBay fodder."

guy at the gig last night selling pic discs for a tenner outside, saying that ebay has em going for upwards of 20 quid already.

yeah incredible gig by her the other night. proud that she started the whole thing off in manchester. you can downloaded our blue jeans remix here and if you like it then you could put a heart on it here

she's playing at the troubadour in december! and it's sold out! and scalpers have tickets for $300!

best of the new songs imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-X87wQ_AT8

Image:

http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/delete-music-iphone.jpg

The accompanying story.

LOL

haha

^_^

http://vimeo.com/31464706

cover^4

Hate is only a word used for Robbie Williams songs.

― kraudive, 29. oktober 2011 00:55 (1 week ago)

hehe no way, name a bad rw songlol :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVaRHJn_dgM

hehe

I abdolutely love the song. Really fun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She%27s_the_One_%28World_Party_song%29

Williams featured in a campy and tongue-in-cheek music video where he was a figure skater. In the video he performs a backflip, which is actually illegal in competitive figure skating.

though I liked it on initial exposure, every subsequent thing I encountered just made it seem weaker and less inspired and just overall terrible

is this for real?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MYKESdOCTqU#!

sorry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKESdOCTqU

gone mental innit? a Q cover after 1 single is certainly a first.
slow month mind.

she has an album coming out this month.

and like 100 songs on the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_3yuNPRNc

the opening to this thread is hilarious

i feel bad about being the person to note this, given that generally i wish ilm could use more enthusiasm, but come on

perpetua was tweeting today about how a co-worker heard him listening to the forthcoming album and asked him if it was Britney Spears and how ppl's heads would be exploding if this actually was the new britney album

but those tweets are deleted now which is kind of weird

Ace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7XLHFiGauDY

Lana better watch out she doesn't get run over by This Train: http://chrystabell.com/

she has an album coming out this month.

― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:15 (Yesterday)

and like 100 songs on the internet.

― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 5 January 2012 22:16 (Yesterday)

Dude this is Q we're talking about, they don't put you on the cover unless you're on at least yr second album and have sold millions of records and are about as safe a prospect as you can get.

They've not even given her a something-for-the-dads type cover as is occasionally their wont.

the opening to this thread is hilarious

― thomp, Thursday, 5 January 2012 23:39 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Ha! Better to have loved and lost than etc ;)

Loved 'Video Games' and 'Blue Jeans' but then didn't pay attention to anything about her for 5 months. Just clicked the link to 'Off To The Races' that picesx posted and am now v excited for the album!

it's a p weird song

Entirely unmoved and underwhelmed by 'Off To The Races'.

then of course there's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bag1gUxuU0g

i heard her on radio 2 in my dads car. Not my kind of thing - ultra tasteful. My parents who like Subo thought she was great though. So shes gonna be huuuuuuuuuuge.

Your parents are the world's tastemakers.

scary thought

I love her delivery on "Blue Jeans" and "Video Games"
Everything else? She's behind the beat, like she's just been taught the song that morning.

You need to have a pretty ballsy performance to float a line like "He loves me / with every beat of his cocaine heart"

best yet maybe

http://vimeo.com/34628944

Oh lord that is now firmly stuck in my head.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/jan/09/lana-del-rey-david-cameron?newsfeed=true

The lesson for Del Rey and Band of Horses is clear

vimeo deleted! what was it?

it was this (w/ a diff photo of her)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGy6L4ol9OM

yeah terrible quality these and she's said the final versions will be very different from the leaks.

but yeah TUNE!
hasn't made a bad track yet bless her. the stretching of 'ovati-oo-n' is brilliant.

ehhh not so into it

I like National Anthem well enough.

hasn't made a bad track yet bless her

Hmm, this opinion of her recorded material to date perplexes me. Outside of 'Video Games,' every track seems like a half-baked idea or formless demo to me.

we were drunk the other night, and we listened to a few besides "video games" and i was like, this is good.

thought it might not be the case, but it was, at least at the time.

JF otm

Dunno, it all seems so empty. I like the first minute of Video Games ok but it keeps going on and I don't know why.

What scares me is I liked VG and Blue Jeans but if she's going to continue solely in this vein of breathless young sexy siren pining away/smitten, the ridiculousness will overwhelm any other merit and I'll get bored.

i don't find it ridiculous, i find it pays homage to something, and i find any emptiness directed at the point of her sound

not that it matters what i think, but i find her v boring because breathless young sexy siren pining away/smitten doesn't really speak to me or my interests as a music listener. she's like fake naughty zooey deschanel.

it totes matters!

She was shite on Jonathan Ross.

case closed

i feel like any kind of consistent aesthetic is going to have difficulties when it runs up against jonathan ross tbh

i like video games & born to die & will check out the lp

i'm a sucker for her betty-boop squeals in "off to the races"

I'm assuming that "National Anthem" isn't a Radiohead cover or else the internet would've already imploded.

yeah i thought it might be at first but i don't think it is

yeah i thought it might be at first but i don't think it is

jinx!

I'd never heard (of) "Video Games" until I saw Tim F's list last week---I only kinda graze ILX & don't really read anything else online about music---& have been listening to it p obsessively since then, over & over again. I don't know what that "means" but it's a beguiling song. I don't feel much pull to dig any deeper into her work at this point, though---life's busy, & one terrific song is enough.

It's all been downhill from Video Games tbh

i can't listen to it that much bc it makes me cry

@ Euler, that obsessive listening to Video Games is something most people seem to experience. The songs after that though, eh, not so much.

what would happen if jared leto and lana del rey were in a room together
think about all of the sexy dullness that would fill that room

this is kind of over-thought and obvious at the same time but i enjoyed reading it:

http://pitchfork.com/features/resonant-frequency/8713-this-is-me-music-making-as-re-blog/

i heard video games on the radio the other day for the first time and it kind of floored me enough to stick on the station and find out who it was; that never happens anymore.

that born to die video is great. even though she kind of has evan rachel wood crazy eyes.

born to die video is p cool except for tattoo guy making me want to barf

Saw a photo of her yesterday and her lips often really freak me out. Every time I see her doing a shakey version of VG it seems like she's trying her best not to open her mouth too much because she's just got an injection or something.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/causticcamp/20-pictures-of-lana-del-reys-lips-pjy

http://i.imgur.com/xxzMm.png

national anthem co-written by david sneddon!

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/checkthis.com/asset/4eef74c2fc52b2000100010d/4eef74c2fc52b2000100010d-medium.jpg?1324315841

sneddon's music production team is called "the nexus"? wonder what *that's* ripping off.

She seems like a nice lady:

http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/?p=200822

She comes across as far more endearing in the videos than vampy. Interesting.

Her face is disturbing.

Agree that she "seems nice" though. I like her more now that I've heard her accent.

i heard video games on the radio the other day for the first time

What kind of station was it? i.e., is she actually getting commercial airplay?

it's apparently on the pop charts in a whole bunch of countries, although in America it's only been on a singles sales chart so far.

finally heard this stupid song when MTV2 started playing the video -- lol @ gr8080's fav facial reconstruction surgery casualty having a cameo

She seems like a nice lady:

http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/?p=200822

― polyphonic, Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Tags: #HaterWars, Authenticity, Paz De La Huerta, saturday night live, SNL, Twitter, Lana Del Rey

What kind of station was it? i.e., is she actually getting commercial airplay?

― Bon Ivoj (jaymc),

radio 2. the uk's most listened to radio station + the prime minister is a fan

MTV-U plays this thing constantly... I fall asleep to that channel sometimes, and my cable box "times out" after 6-7 hours or so and freezes on an image (I'm guessing that happens often with channels that aren't viewed as often within a given node)...

So the moral of the story is, a few weeks ago I woke up to a frozen image of this chick on my TV and it weirded me out

you kids and your terms for boners

she's like fake naughty zooey deschanel.

see, I am interested in this because I wish zooey's public persona was all an elaborate act and would find her more intriguing if I felt that was the case

like she goes home and just orders pizza from dominos and listens to old Tool albums or something when she's out of the public eye

I'm putty emphasis on:
fake "naughty zooey deschanel"

If you meant it as
"fake naughty" zooey deschanel
then I am not with you

fake, naughty, zooey, deschanel, music

What kind of station was it? i.e., is she actually getting commercial airplay?

it was KFOG in the bay area, which is 'classic rock', oddly enough.

kcrw (l.a.'s npr station; pretty influential in yuppie circles) has been playing "video games." not constantly, but it is getting airplay.

"classic rock" isn't a good descriptor for KFOG. They do "adult album alternative, an eclectic variety of blues, reggae, folk, pop, and rock music from the mid-1960s to the present" ... meaning that it an easy listening station imo

I'm putty emphasis on:
fake "naughty zooey deschanel"

If you meant it as
"fake naughty" zooey deschanel
then I am not with you

i'm not really sure how i meant it, but your analysis is interesting
they both have "endearing" qualities and have been described as such (and reviled for it, too), and honestly i don't even really know what that means when people say it

I kind of like the couple Lana Del Rey songs I've heard in a way

I will openly admit to have never heard a full Zooey song, or if I have heard one, I have not realized it was her.

blue jeans is good too. very kate bush in delivery if not content. my wife predictably hates all of these songs.

those vh1 clips are very endearing

is "endearing" our new "annoying?" I can't watch them at work.

i only watched one of them so far but i liked her

the writeup is a little annoying in its "you'd think this girl would be super nervous but she was totally shill!" tone

In her songs she comes across as a star-crossed lover mixed with a kind of breathy young thing; she's selling a lot of sex and lot of young love angst. In the videos above, she comes across as funny and a bit goofy and self-aware enough to be a little bit self-deprecating. I really mean endearing 'cause everything I'd seen her in before was in her shy nymph persona with a slightly squeaky voice and was not so endearing.

and I mean "annoying" in our "really means ws but I don't want my girlfriend to know" way

lol

i meant "endearing" as "made her more likable to me"

I guess that is a valid use of the word that is sanctioned by merriam-webster's

kind of getting turned on by my zooey + dominos + out of character music listening idea upthread

lana del rey is at home right now with no makeup, an unironic oversized "ride the lightning" era metallica t-shirt and is eating papa john's and drinking some miller lites

wishful thinking

brb starting a fanfic erotica site

Yeah, too long for a facebook status...xpost

Zooey can't eat Dominoes, brings back too many painful memories.

Gibbard says that he realized he needed to change after a particular bender with a friend in Big Sur, CA. "It was so stereotypically my own little Kerouac Big Sur weekend," Gibbard says. "And I remember being on the flight home, going, 'You know what? I really have to do something about this. This has really gotten out of control. But I have a friend's birthday tonight, and I need to go out and have a beer with him.' Cut to three in the morning, five beers and five shots in, eating a pizza. I woke up the next morning and I was like, 'That's it. I'm done. I have lost the ability to control this.'"

it's hilarious how he's such a self-conscious wuss that THAT'S his dramatic rock bottom anecdote

She divorced that dude, she'll eat pizza and do shots on his grave

Hah some dude OTM. What a wuss.

xpost qual post

tbf if i did five beers and five shots these days i would probably actually be dead the next morning so props to that guy

yeah radio is battering it over here, she's basically massive already; Top 10 hit, prime time Saturday night TV, Q cover, BRIT nomination. there was even a big piece in the Daily Mail this week.

i'm guessing 'Billboard' is a big magazine in the States?
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/393552_307191255989998_117713628271096_793739_1063308823_n.jpg

That's Bilbard.

The magazine for olde tyme minstrels

Forsooth, "Magic Lantern Games" 'tis an excellent air

although the one about concentrating on ye football at the expense of archery practice, is somewhat traditional in outlook..

(I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, Piscesx, but Billboard isn't a big magazine at all - it's a trade publication, like Daily Variety is for Hollywood)

yeah Billboard basically exists to chart music sales/airplay, although lately they've gotten more into putting new artists on the cover that haven't had much of that kind of success (Odd Future before they had really been on a single chart last year, etc.)

is somewhat traditional in outlook..

Yet you still can't beat the French at football that often...

nice billboard cover imo

lol "the persecution of" -- i feel like the next 10 years is just going to be every new artist looking at their youtube comments/negative press and deciding they're being 'cyberbullied'

radio 2. the uk's most listened to radio station + the prime minister is a fan

Yes, I know she's mega-popular in the UK; I was asking akm b/c he lives in the U.S., where "indie" chanteuses are less likely to reach a mainstream audience. (Feist was a big anomaly, too.)

oh ok i didn't know where akm was from, should've trusted the xls

"classic rock" isn't a good descriptor for KFOG. They do "adult album alternative, an eclectic variety of blues, reggae, folk, pop, and rock music from the mid-1960s to the present" ... meaning that it an easy listening station imo

OK, then it's like WXRT in Chicago, which I wouldn't be entirely surprised to learn is playing Lana Del Rey, either, since it's the only commercial radio station where I've heard Arcade Fire, Spoon, Vampire Weekend, etc.

(That said, AAA stations tend to have little influence on the Hot 100.)

xp I know what you mean but the LDR case is kind of extreme. I went back to the Hipster Runoff post recently while writing something about her and was reminded what an obnoxious, misogynistic, point-missing piece of shit it was. The speed and intensity of the backlash far exceeds what most buzz bands get to the point that it became a big part of her story. Translated from excitable coverlinese, "persecution" seems pretty accurate to me.

in the Rebecca Black age i realy just can't feel sorry for any adult who willingly puts their music and image out into the world for anyone to see and isn't prepared to take the bad with the good. the only people who get nothing but positive feedback about their music are no-names nobody cares about with lots of friends and family who humor them.

There are degrees of bad, no? It's not like it's either blanket acclaim or Carles being a dick. And in terms of taking the bad with the good she hasn't thrown her toys out of the pram and started ranting about haters. In the most recent interview I read she mainly wanted to make the reasonable point that she's not just some puppet doing what the guys at the record label tell her to do. "Persecution" is Billboard's word, not necessarily (I haven't read the article) hers.

well there's "people" and theres "carles"

she is tailor-made for HRO

xp Ha ha

has she come out in support of Ron Paul yet?

Can we discuss the fact her dad made money off of people typing their search terms into the address bar before web browsers treated it like a search field? Like he registered stuff like beyonceshair.com or whatever in the hopes someone would type that in and then put up a parking page with weak "content" and a ton of ads

i'd rather not.

more interesting than the music

I really don't know why people are questioning her worth when she has nearly 4 months of performance experience as LDR. Clearly she is a pro.

And the whole persecution angle is a brilliant PR tactic. It's constructing a narrative out of thin air, and helps towards making her seem more authentic, which is pretty ingenuous really. She's authentic because she is being persecuted for being inauthentic.

i want to completely screen out any and all writing about LDR that includes the words "authenticity" or "lips"

Which is also funny, lex, since the authenticity of her lips has been questioned

clam?

no clam.

i want to completely screen out any and all sightings of LDR's lips.

born to die: the lyrics to this are abysmal, but I really love it. Every single line is a hackneyed cliche (take a walk on the wild side; kiss me in the rain; feet don't fail me now; lines from amazing grace), to the point where I almost have to think it's intentional; if not she is an absolutely awful lyricist. but it's still really good!

pretty intentionally pastiche and homage, imo

or not intentional and someone stumbled into the same concepts by accident

yeah i feel like that is kind of the "point" of LDR in general

I like her disinterested singing and melodies too

cool lips, too.

Like, what if I am trying to remember a song with common cliched lyrics and I was actually thinking of a different artist, but when I explained it to friends or searched via Google, they say "Oh, you mean Lana Del Rey?"

her dad's business model, right?

http://i.imgur.com/oB2Le.jpg

cool lips, too.

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i have to stop fucking listening to these songs but I can't

Listen to her tomorrow, on Saturday Night Live (NBC, 11:30 PM, E/10:30 PM, C)!

she was announced on SNL as lah-na, so i guess my 'lame adele ray' display name was predicated on the wrong pronunciation

is she wearing a wig?