Jack White - Blunderbuss

http://pitchfork.com/news/45266-jack-white-announces-solo-album/

based on the gospel vibe and organ riff, i was hoping for a funk/soul blowout at the end. no such luck.

first single has came out today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tdq41eVVu8

i love it, it's pretty damn good.

That's actually the second single, "Love Interruption" was the first one.

http://www.webchic.com/images/futurism.jpg

Third Man is doing some interesting shit imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szoIcNykCc0

(recently, they released a 3RPM record....3!)

ben! one of the dirtbombs' drummers!

i heard a song and it sounded a lot like the white stripes

given how much i loved the white stripes between their early singles and elephant, i'm kind of stunned at how little the subsequent j white stuff has interested me. i mean, i dig "steady as she goes" and half-like that album he produced for loretta lynn, but that's about it.

this new stuff is dull as dirt

A friend's band did that same thing at a recent 7" release party, of course they only tied one to a balloon and it released to the air over South Minneapolis. Never heard if it was discovered or not.

I have no memory of what the new songs he played on SNL sounded like even though I watched both.

I love plenty of stuff from ever White Stripes album, Icky Thump possibly being my 2nd favorite behind DeStijl, bt the new singles just haven't clicked. For music he claims he couldn't imagine releasing under anything other than his own name, they seem pretty superfluous.

I was hoping I might sit up and take notice with this new stuff but it just sounds kinda samey.

Icky Thump was pretty good, I still think "You Don't Know What Love Is" might be one of the best songs he's written. I really liked what he did with the Raconteurs on their second album too.

I was hoping for more, but maybe he just doesn't have it in him? It's kind of a bummer.

He always goes on and on about the simplicity of early blues, and in "It Might Get Loud" he plays that Son House track that's just a capella and claims it's his favorite song ever. Then he goes off and NEVER makes the quiet rustic soulful record you expect him to. Maybe he's just saving all that shit for when he's 70?

Yeah I definitely don't feel like he's yet making the music that's truly *in* him.

He needs to like, lose all his money and get dumped by his wife or something...

Yeah I definitely don't feel like he's yet making the music that's truly *in* him.

Maybe? Jack White has already struck me as a bit of a phony anyway. I mean, I like a lot of his stuff and I think what they're doing at Third Man is really cool for the most part (Black Belles are/were terrible, though). But he seems really calculating almost all the time and never direct about anything.

already=always

didn't he already get dumped by his wife? and with things like the balloon stunt, he'll probably be broke soon.
i can't quite figure out why everything this dude does inspires an eye-roll from me.

1000 flexis tied to 1000 balloons shouldn't break him, I wouldn't think. Total cost of operation is probably about $500.

there's something about him that keeps me at least coming back out of curiosity. After he hooked me in with De Stijl I could never justify completely dismissing him. There's *something* there. It's just not there all the time, lol

i really don't think he's a phony, not at all

i don't either. i think he's rather reticent and that he hides behind mannerisms, but that doesn't make one fake, i don't think.

he is 'authenticity'/analog-loving rockism personified and his music is appropriately boring most of the time, some good stuff in there once in a while tho

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/magazine/jack-white-is-the-savviest-rock-star-of-our-time.html?pagewanted=all

worth reading

imo

there are some hilarious bits in that, but ugh @ every sentence of this:

It’s easy to overlook amid the stylistic trappings, but White is a virtuoso — possibly the greatest guitarist of his generation. His best songs, like “Seven Nation Army,” are firmly rooted in the American folk vernacular, yet catchy and durable enough to be chanted in sports arenas worldwide. That he does it with such self-imposed constraints — for instance, his favorite guitar in the White Stripes was made of plastic and came from Montgomery Ward — makes it all the more impressive.

the line about why aren't kids building model steamboats made me lol

His best songs, like “Seven Nation Army,” are firmly rooted in the American folk vernacular, yet catchy and durable enough to be chanted in sports arenas worldwide.

Actually I think this sentence is fine, its the ones bookending it that are steaming piles of o_O

oh my fuckin' god @ that quote

jesus christ is this the new york times or guitar player

^haha otm.

Talented dude, sure, but what a pretentious twat in that interview. Too bad.

"i can't quite figure out why everything this dude does inspires an eye-roll from me." - tylerw

Dead on. My guess is because every gesture he makes at being 'authentic' and storying himself as 'Unique Artist' is marred by his (apparently very intentional) framing of himself as a macho guitar god. That, and he apparently buys way too into his own bullshit.

I thought the 90s finally lifted the veil on this kinda crap. 'Coolest'? 'Rock Star'? Jesus Christ.

I heard David Bowie once said that he didn't really love rock music, but it was an easy way to make money.
I don't know Jack White, but he seems sort of like a snake oil salesman to me.
Sure there's some talent, but there's a lot of marketing going on as well.
I have zero problem with this. Musicians should do everything they can to get their own.

"possibly the greatest x" = code for "I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm gonna say it anyway"

also the writer makes it sound like playing on a *plastic guitar from montgomery ward* or w/e is the equivalent of having three fingers like Django

man, nicky i think you are WAY off, dude's a total obsessive music nerd IMO, like starting the white stripes in fucking detroit at that time is a truly stupid idea if you wanted to be famous, i mean fuck they were on sympathy for the record industry...there was like no reason to ever expect they'd graduate from like opening for The Makers or bands like that

plus he was doing music with some older dude and working at an apolstery shop and shit...

like he's definitely got a concocted image, but hell the band named an album De Stijl and had an official color scheme and shit (which is actually one of the really awesome things about the White Stripes)

are Airlines a bitch to play or something? i know they got a lot more valuable on the used market after Jack made them a thing

i can't imagine that they're particularly hard to play when set up properly. it was the 60s, not the stone age.

I felt like I was reading something from an interior design magazine...I mean, I know it's kind of a unique design and all and he has always had a deliberate aesthetic (though the yellow/black fixation was kind of an interesting oddity)

He's kind of an interesting guy when he talks at lengt, I think.

m@tt otm, i'm not much of a fan of White but the second-guessing itt about his entire existence is pretty over the top, he's really just a true blue '90s indie retro rock weirdo who grinded and lucked his way into superstardom

no doubt, a total obsessive music nerd, and a very hard working enthusiastic chap as well. playing with meg in dives and street festivals for two years before making the first album. Recording that classic debut in his father's living room over the course of a weekend, and then recording 2 more classics in the next 2 years...

that was all done by 2001.

i guess in a way they were kinda one of the last gasps of 90s indie rock culture that broke, like i'm sure their original big rockstar fantasies would have been to be as big as, like, jon spencer blues explosion

I wonder what the White Stripes/Jack White legacy would be if he had stopped completely after the first 3 albums.

just slightly better than every other garage band that peaked in 2001?

they'd probably reform to play Cavestomp

followed by a reunion tour with The Go and a repentant Mooney Suzuki, who disavow their Matrix collaboration

good lord that is a period of my music fandom career that i do not miss

incidentally it didn't occur to me until the article noted his age that White is only 36 and that i am kind of jealous of how much he's accomplished.

;_; Mooney Suzuki

man, nicky i think you are WAY off, dude's a total obsessive music nerd IMO, like starting the white stripes in fucking detroit at that time is a truly stupid idea if you wanted to be famous, i mean fuck they were on sympathy for the record industry...there was like no reason to ever expect they'd graduate from like opening for The Makers or bands like that...

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

m@tt otm, i'm not much of a fan of White but the second-guessing itt about his entire existence is pretty over the top, he's really just a true blue '90s indie retro rock weirdo who grinded and lucked his way into superstardom

― some dude, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:01 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no doubt, a total obsessive music nerd, and a very hard working enthusiastic chap as well. playing with meg in dives and street festivals for two years before making the first album. Recording that classic debut in his father's living room over the course of a weekend, and then recording 2 more classics in the next 2 years...

― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:05 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess in a way they were kinda one of the last gasps of 90s indie rock culture that broke, like i'm sure their original big rockstar fantasies would have been to be as big as, like, jon spencer blues explosion

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:06 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and i have no regrets about rock fandom in the late 90s & early 00s. great time to be going out to see underattended punk shows in sleazy dives.

so this is out there new, getting now.

new

Tracklist:

01. Missing Pieces 3:27
02. Sixteen Saltines 2:37
03. Freedom At 21 2:51
04. Love Interruption 2:38
05. Blunderbuss 3:06
06. Hypocritical Kiss 2:50
07. Weep Themselves To Sleep 4:19
08. I’m Shakin’ 3:00
09. Trash Tongue Talker 3:20
10. Hip (Eponymous) Poor Boy 3:03
11. I Guess I Should Go To Sleep 2:37
12. On And On And On 3:55
13. Take Me With You When You Go 4:10

Release date: 24 april 2012

he hasn't made anything i've loved since elephant, and i'm not sure if that's bc he's changed or if i've changed. in either case, i kinda keep an eye on him to see if anything he does is really interesting again. seems like a lot of boring side projects like raconteurs, dead weather, black belles? maybe the magic is just gone

i think he's got a free pass to fuck around with merely solid side projects and Third Man vinyl nerd ephemera for a little while. i'm still entertained by it all.

2nd Raconteurs album was A+, imo

digging "Sixteen Saltines" a lot.

I had very low expectations of this but it is easily his best album in a decade, albeit a decade in which I have only really liked a couple of Raconteurs songs and little else. I dont understand this notion of Jack lacking authenticity, he is from a working class background and dragged himself up from nothing. I get a feeling he doesn't really have much control of this beast he has created, but that doesn't make him a phony.

I'm lukewarm over this. It's sorta plain jane. It's like a 67/100, but that's dumb. I don't know why I was expecting so much, lol.
The sound is cool. I like the production. I think he's a great producer. I just think the songwriting is lacking, musically and lyrically.
Some lyrics just totally seem free styled to fit the melody. I guess I wish it also had more electric guitar.
On the plus side, at least he's not relying on that Digitech Whammy so much.

my vinyl copy is sat at the post office because it wouldn't fit in my letterbox. won't have a chance to pick it up till saturday. am resisting temptation to dl illicitly, as that's not how a true white stripes fan should behave.

I get a feeling he doesn't really have much control of this beast he has created, but that doesn't make him a phony.

― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:02 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

surely there have rarely been rock stars in more total control of the beast he created than Jack White!

I like the first song, "missing pieces," with it's great rhodes piano. I also like "blunderbuss," and the last song, "take me with you..." I also like the first two singles. I don't really hate anything on here.
I think I just had out of this world expectations.

Discovering that it was Meg who terminated the White Stripes, while Jack would have gone on indefinitely, has totally changed my reading of the lyrics. Like his divorce is a red herring and the subject of a song like Missing Pieces is actually Meg. Maybe this is the common reading but I listened to a review copy a lot before I found out how the split went down.

Quite like it so far.

sounds like a series of sketches, interspersed with back of fag packet moments.

I wasnt such a big fan of the 2nd Raconteurs album, though it had its moments, but I'm probably the only person who has a soft spot for the 2nd Dead Weather album

xp to Vegemite Grrrl

INSIDE LOOK: Jack White & Gary Oldman - Amex UNSTAGED

A live + Digital Music Experience April 27 9pm EST

http://www.youtube.com/user/JackWhiteVevo/unstaged

Discovering that it was Meg who terminated the White Stripes, while Jack would have gone on indefinitely, has totally changed my reading of the lyrics

she quit in the middle of a tour iirc?

like, it doesn't get more obvious than that

Ha, well I can't have been following it too closely then.

huh yeah i didn't know meg quit

iirc it was around the same time that a rumored sex tape of Meg was circulating (it was, not surprisingly, fake)

Now I know why you were following Meg's activities so closely.

http://www.chacha.com/question/does-jack-white-of-the-white-stripes-wear-makeup-to-look-so-white

I think there was some common agreement about the split.

Didn't the White stripes reconvene and carry on after Meg's break?

I suppose being an obsessive blues fan means rewriting the influences into nuevo misogynist bilge.

cuz "Sixteen Saltines" is crap.

the whole show is up, and it's not bad. it starts about 10 minutes in.

http://www.youtube.com/user/JackWhiteVevo/unstaged

the setlist:

with the girls backing

Dead Leaves And The Dirty Ground
Missing Pieces
Freedom At 21
Love Interruption
Hotel Yorba
Two Against One
Top Yourself
I'm Slowly Turning Into You
Blue Blood Blues
Take Me With You When You Go

with the boys backing

Sixteen Saltines
I Cut Like A Buffalo
Weep Themselves To Sleep
Trash Tongue Talker
You Know That I Know
We're Going To Be Friends
Hypocritical Kiss
Hello Operator
Carolina Drama
Seven Nation Army

favorite misogynist moment is in "Top Yoursef," where he growls:

"How you gonna rock yourself to sleep, when I give up that midnight creep, girl...
Yeah how you gonna get that deep, when your daddy ain't around to give it to you..."

Finally picked this up - it's a lot better than I expected. Really love the middle group of songs, Love Interruption, Blunderbuss, Weep Themselves to Sleep ...the piano and slightly, I dunno, honky-tonk/country-fied approach really suits him.

I feel like he's still got a lot of artifice in his songwriting that he needs to get rid of. He feels too self conscious still or soemthing, like he's trying to prove something with his songs. I think if that ever goes away and he writes from the heart he'll be incredible.

I like the artifice, at this stage in the game a rich white guy playing blues-rock is about as artificial as you can get so he might as well play around with it.

This is a pretty good album, better than the Dead Weather at least, I agree that middle section is the strongest, although I need to give it time to sink in a bit more.

i think Get Behind Me Satan was pretty from the heart tbh. in fact i think most of jack's stuff is from the heart. its just that jack's got a weird heart.

I don't like thinking about artifice vs "from the heart" as a binary anyway but I think it's especially unhelpful with this record. The whole album is clearly about the emotions following a split with his bandmate and/or his wife, only dressed up in fantastical narratives.

he's a fraud cuz that one song sounds like the beginning of 'heart shaped box'

i think that binary is unhelpful with jack in general because he is a uniquely self-aware artist who nevertheless writes from a very wounded and self-involved perspective. every time i've interviewed him i've marveled at how he seems, simultaneously, unaffected and yet playing me as an interviewer. he is sharp as heck. i don't think this album is as 'plainly' about the split from karen/meg as you suggest, but i also think that's a prime motivator. the thing with jack white is, you never quite know when he's cluing you into how john gillis really feels. that's part of his magic, why he's more interesting than, say, the potatoes in the black keys.

Jack White is not a sexist!

http://www.paintingmania.com/arts/gustave-caillebotte/large/portrait-man-writing-his-study-151_8902.jpg

"Jack White... not... a... sexist. Got it."

This was a better response to the Jessica Misener article imo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/apr/27/jack-white-problem-women-laura-barton

certainly not since Dylan has an artist played with our perceptions the way that White does

Not to mention that White, né Gillis, did something the overwhelming majority of men are too threatened by women to do: he took his wife’s surname.

Where did he take it?

xp Yes well I'm not cosigning every line but I like the gist. I thought Misener's argument relied on cherrypicking, misreading and faulty information.

I think the article is fine, just pondering JWhite's 'use' of his wife's surname: Where did that happen?

Um, all the time? He calls himself Jack White, after Meg White. Or are you thinking of Karen Elson?

Well, yeah I was.

OK, being 'pka' is not the same as actually taking yr wife's surname in marriage.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/08/karen-elson-obtains-restraining-order-against-ex-husband-jack-white/

Somehow I missed that they'd even divorced, but this is a pretty gross development. Stop being a creep, Jack White!

White wanted Elson to contact their kids’ private school in an effort to get their kids out of a class in which another entertainer’s child was present. White said that he feels that entertainer 'ripped off' his music, the order said.

Any guesses as to who that might be?

Dan Auerbach, I bet.

xpost You don't remember their weird "divorce party?"

I didn't even know who Karen Elson was until he released her album (and then immediately ceased paying further attention).

The leaked emails are gruesomely fascinating. He really hates the Black Keys.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/08/02/jack-white-wife-karen-elson-black-keys-singer-dan-auerbach-divorce-restraining-order-email/

can you blame him

Two balding men fighting over a limited edition BluesHammer comb.

funny that jack white is enough of a celeb to be covered in TMZ. i guess he did date renee zelweggz about 20 years ago.

The only good thing that could come of this is a a fight between Jack White and the BK's combative drummer, who seems a good match for him.

there's only one way to settle this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27oKgNUfWFI

Don't blame the guy for hating Black Keys

I'm too in love with the image of Jack White shooting surly glances at Dan Auerblech as they sit next to each other in those tiny little grade school desk/chair combos on parent-teacher night.

Those emails don't seem that bad either

I'm too in love with the image of Jack White shooting surly glances at Dan Auerblech as they sit next to each other in those tiny little grade school desk/chair combos on parent-teacher night.

Man, White is such a passive aggressive dick in those emails. "Karen, this would be so much better if you didn't get lawyers involved and just did what I said. Don't be stupid. Plenty of people deal with divorce and child custody and visitation rights without a lawyer getting involved. Really, when it comes to divorce and kids, handshake deals and verbal agreements seems the obvious way to go."

To his credit, at least he's not complaining about money.

xpost oops - sorry the school image cracks me up too... jack trying to ignore him, wearing some kind of modified matador outfit, dan trying to invite himself over to jam

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVG8TezZTWrAfcfdP9zo9NUetoOAxBrKBQ7cJ3Z--c3LzQ3PZU

Man, White is such a passive aggressive dick in those emails.

Before u judge bro maybe you should read Karen's emails.
What? We don't have them?
Then don't judge bro

I don't know what she's written, but only ONE of them has filed a restraining order.

you know what the right thing to do is? not treat the children's father like shit. their father who sat alone on his birthday, who is currently not painting rocks with his kids from their trip because their mother didn't get any with them for our project.

Poor Jack White and his rocks project. Can we all get together and send some rocks to Jack White?

the missing rocks for the project is the saddest thing in there - that's some squid & whale-level real divorce tragicomic shit.

I felt a little dirty reading those emails, but if those are indeed the ones that got her the restraining order, thats bullshit. Those are not violent in any way. He sounds like every married guy in the world, ever. He should spell-check grubbing, though.

Alas, the reason people deal with/through lawyers is illustrated perfectly by those (one sided or not) emails.

i can't imagine anyone sounds good in e-mails from a custody battle, but cc'ing your ex in e-mails complaining about how you want a lawyer, and then freaking out over the fact that you might have to spend parent-teacher night in the same vicinity of one of the black keys....yeesh

e-mails about how she wants a lawyer, i mean

He sounds a bit bratty, but do you get violent or menacing? Did your read that and think "Karen Elson is unsafe"?

it's almost as if this was decided by legal professionals that are privy to more information than just the e-mails that have been leaked to the public and we don't actually know everything about the situation

no one has mentioned how ironic and sad it is that jack white is complaining about someone ripping his music off?

it's hysterical. white men born in the 1970s fighting over who invented the blues!

i did

great job!

ty!

it's almost as if this was decided by legal professionals that are privy to more information than just the e-mails that have been leaked to the public and we don't actually know everything about the situation

seriously. but even if this is the worst of the evidence, if you're calling your ex-wife over and over to swear at her about hiring a lawyer for a custody dispute (as implied in one of the e-mails), i'm all for her getting a restraining order

i mean a dude who's already plead guilty of assault before, who reportedly spent the time before each show of his last tour deciding whether his all-male or all-female band would get to play with him that night, has been accused of being threatening and controlling during a custody dispute he's trying to keep lawyers out of. it's not a real "HOW????" situation.

now i wanna hear JW cover "You Could Be Mine"

"Get In the Ring."

"And this goes out to you, Karen, you jerk, taking my kids, starting controversy! And you too, guy from the Black Keys ... what, you jealous that I got to ripping off AC/DC and Zeppelin ripping off the blues before you did?"

Please refer to the right honorable Mr Billy Childish in matters pertaining to the prickish, bratty attitude of Jack White, from their feud circa 2006 when White claimed Childish was stealing from the White Stripes (huh?)

It all smacks of jealousy to me. I have a bigger collection of hats, a better moustache, a more blistering guitar sound and a fully developed sense of humor. The only thing I can’t understand is why I’m not rich. Yours sincerely, Billy Childish.

P.S. I always stay well within the music industries recommended guidelines of never plagiarizing more than 50% of my material. But no matter who my influences may be, I would never stoop so low as to rip off Led Zeppelin.

P.P.S I hope I've gone and offended Led Zeppelin now.

Billy Childish I love you.

Frankly, I think White comes off as most prickish from his demands that Elson stay away from lawyers. Any settlement with serious money involved the woman ABSOLUTELY wants and needs lawyers. Got to say, from the divorces I've known, it's only ever been the men who've been controlling and demanding and aggressive. And in every case it's got them the best of the settlement because the women have become so fed up of the bloodiness of the process. Admittedly, that's only three divorces, but they're also the only three I'm familiar with.

Wherever they are, Flat Duo Jets are laughing.

White's ex-wife, a model, was probably annoyed that he wouldn't let his kids wear anything other than black, white and red clothing.

I always liked him in 'School Of Rock'

http://pitchfork.com/news/51746-jack-white-retaliates-against-karen-elson-restraining-order-with-countermotion/

obvs white stripes werent the most original band but they def had their own thing which the black keys seem inspired by, and then the guy follows him to nashville and sends his kid to the same school, its worth at least considering that there may be some weird stalker relationship going on here

how long before we find out hes been going around sleeping w whites exs for years

it seems like the kind of thing you dont really want to get into explaining so youre all i just really dont want any association w that guy and then people are all jeez whats yr problem a lil uptight over there

if jack white is not only being falsely maligned by his selfish ex but being stalked by a copycat currently outselling him, congrats jack white you're living in oliver stone's new rock biopic

you're not a violent paranoid if everyone's out to get you, i guess

http://www.jfk-online.com/100xwhy.jpg

"The truth is on your side, blunderbuss!"

"Only my hand hewn wooden albums. I trust NOTHING ELSE."

"based on the gospel vibe and organ riff, i was hoping for a funk/soul blowout at the end. no such luck."

lol!

oh man, Auerbach is going through a divorce right now too. still copying Jack White's every move!

aw, i couldn't find the snl chris evert/martina sketch. my fave.

lol just watched it, forgot it escalates to the point that when evert writes her autobiography martina decides to write a chris evert bio that outsells it

anyhow sorry guys black keys are fucking awful, can't figure out why you dudes love them so much

literally nobody on this thread has defended the Black Keys, so i assume you're joking?

i don't care about them

i do like the white stripes

I went through much of the 00s not really knowing what to think of the Stripes, but the Black Keys kind of put it all in perspective.

the names of the bands even, its all right in front of yr noses

They should form a two guitar, two drum supergroup called The Black and White Keys.

Also, they are both from the midwest. Think about it.

they both use guitars

!

Also, Jack White is white, while Dan Auerbach's last name soooorta rhymes with black, and he is in the Black Keys. But he is also white!!!

i don't think i hate the black keys. i definitely hate jack white. the black keys are definitely easy to avoid. jack white less so if you go into record stores which i do.

is he in them often?

'haha you call the NM be srs bro' --jack white

Jack White is this millennium's Brian Setzer. Dunno what that makes Auerbach...were there bands that had a beef against the Stray Cats?

no i meant they play his stuff in record stores because apparently the people who work in record stores want me to commit suicide.

the blasters probably said mean things about the stray cats. robert gordon probably sneered at them too. who knows.

I feel for any father in a divorce/custody case,

but I mostly only care about myself, so I wish he would put out another album.

"Then don't judge bro"

ha! what use do we have for the internet then?

i can understand why people wouldn't like the white stripes but for all their admitted influences they had a pretty unique aesthetic, and i'd say jack did a lot in pointing kids towards a bunch of old blues artists they wouldn't otherwise have discovered. the black keys meanwhile are the work of a dave matthews fan and sound like blues traveler, and when i saw them at sxsw they had a real live shoeshine boy working beside the stage while they played, so fuck them.

I have almost zero use for The Black Keys, but I've been told by Nashville friends that Carney, the drummer, is a nice dude and Auerbach treats him like crap (he actually treats everyone like crap, but that includes Carney).

afaic Jack White and Dan Auerbach should just activate their Wonder Twin powers and form of a giant rectum.

Jack White = Dave Bartram
Dan Auerbach = Shakin' Stevens

Miriam Linna = that woman from Darts

those 3 comparisons make everything clear to me

the black keys meanwhile are the work of a dave matthews fan and sound like blues traveler, and when i saw them at sxsw they had a real live shoeshine boy working beside the stage while they played, so fuck them.

― There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Sunday, August 4, 2013 4:17 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait, seriously? what year was that, i gotta find that shit on youtube

2004, I think? I walked out almost immediately.

Am willing to assert that El Camino is a better record than White has made for years.

U R NUTS

I think we just need Greg Ginn involved somehow via his own lawsuits and any bands with Black in the name and the resultant paste will be a court-enforced supergroup of Ginn, Rollins, Morris, White and Auerbach that has tour calling themselves the Grey Bears.

haven't heard el camino, but despite my better judgment, i do quite like "lonely boy". every else about the black keys is a drag tho.

everything else, that is

If we're gonna take sides on which one of these guys is less of a tool, Auerbach's "dance for me, roots music legend, dance for me" Dr. John album was a lot better than White's Wanda Jackson album.

i don't mind the first two black keys records, they are decent for fuzzy white-dude blues stuff. everything jack white has ever done kinda makes my skin crawl.

Yeah, don't listen to Black Keys, but i don't find them annoying, either. Jack White seems like he's trying to be annoying on purpose, which is even more annoying.

My dream project: Jack White producing and playing on an Alicia Keys album.

That sounds OK, except for the Jack White part.

yeah i'll stand by the black keys for a couple albums, they kinda lost me around magic potion but rubber factory is pretty great, and the first one is too.

There's some White Stripes stuff that I genuinely like, but I haven't bothered to check out White's side projects or solo stuff. He really does seem to be pretty humourless and dour - which seems at odds with all his theatrics, costumes, gimmicks, and publicity stunts. I kind of liked the White Stripes' having a concept and a self-conscious myth-making made-up backstory. I know that stuff isn't in fashion - but when the White Stripes first popped up, I thought it was cool to see someone pull together so fully-formed - like the Ramones or Devo or KISS or the NY Dolls. But those bands were funny - and a little creepy and nuts - and it worked for them (at least for awhile). I think Jack White tried to create his own private world like those bands, but it ended up too precious and pretentious and closed-off to be all that interesting. Also, not enough good rocking tunes.

so no talk about the new album Lazaretto? i actually had no idea there was a new one until today. reading ILM too much, lol.

He was just on the cover of Rolling Stone...

"Feel like he's still got a lot of artifice in his songwriting that he needs to get rid of. He feels too self conscious still or soemthing, like he's trying to prove something with his songs. I think if that ever goes away and he writes from the heart he'll be incredible."

This. Although I only think it's a problem when the tempo or volume drops. When its black math or rag and bone, it seems totally undeniable.