Miley Cyrus's Video For "We Can't Stop" (Being Badass Means Sticking Your Tongue Out A Lot Apparently...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco&feature=youtu.be

gotta give it up for the bro chilling on the pile of white bread

why does Miley Cyrus make such boring "party" songs

http://i.imgur.com/5b8r3Qh.png

gotta give it up for the pinata full of hot dogs.

Cyrus is quick to point out that, having left one bandwagon, she's not about to jump on another. "I've always wanted country-rock influences, but now I'm moving over to a more urban side," she says. "It's not a hip-hop album, though-it's a pop album. I'm not coming in trying to rap. It's more like, 'I don't see any girls out there doing what Miguel and Frank Ocean are doing.'" Cyrus pauses, giggling. "We've been calling it 'count-step,' because it's like country, dubstep and a little trap," she says. "I love the Lumineers, but I also love French Montana, Juicy J, Wiz Khalifa and Dolly Parton. If you could put Dolly, some Adele and Juicy J together, you'd have that weird balance."

Cyrus pauses, giggling

sigh

gotta give it up for the pinata full of hot dogs.

This is without a doubt the greatest sentence I've ever read.

this entire project continues to be highly suspect but there's gonna be dope shit on this album

"We've been calling it 'count-step,' because it's like country, dubstep and a little trap,"

jumping on the 'cunt-punt' bandwagon, imo.

http://img3.etsystatic.com/000/0/5357185/il_fullxfull.81185647.jpg

I kinda doubt the beats will even be good, Mike Will didn't really give his best on the single

homegirl looks like she went to the producer and just shouted WITE RIHANNA PLEASE

*nicki minaj voice* "i am the female bieber"

The "fieber," if you will.

pinata out, weiner

its like a weird disney version of that old fiona apple video.

I haven't seen this video yet, but my interest was piqued by this:
http://www.complex.com/art-design/2013/06/art-references-miley-cyrus-we-cant-stop-video/

Some of those feel like kind of a stretch, but others feel pretty dead on.

i always said "dirrty" should have been slower

considering hannah montana started in 2006, and can't be tamed was in 2010, she's been in "i'm actually quite naughty" mode for nearly as long as she wasn't.

i watched the video after seeing an article on billboard called "new miley cyrus video is absolutely INSANE" or something but then i watched it and was basically like *shrug*

i mean la di da da di, she like to party

white bread partying

a lot of her hip-hop signifiers feel v "very interesting, miley, you are very interested in black people" 2 me

xp i thought that shot basically summarized it all

now if THIS were her new video, we'd know she was serious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8nrF5aXPlQ

a lot of her hip-hop signifiers feel v "very interesting, miley, you are very interested in black people" 2 me

― battle hyrr of the shepublic (m bison), Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:29 AM Bookmark

uh huh

love the die antwoord song/video. yolandi is a great rapper.

She was like, 'I want urban, I just want something that feels Black.'

Rock City, those fucking hacks

remember a few years ago when she was like "I've never even heard a Jay-Z song"?

glaring error leaving this out of the art references article:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPMFhcC4SvQ

you people. "I'm moving to a more urban sound" is literally the same line every Disney/teenpop/boy band/girl band singer in history has given when promo-ing their solo work. it is as cliched as "it's our best album yet."

put another way: I don't like Miley's new single at all but there is no way she isn't receiving a disproportionate amount of shit because "Miley Cyrus" is still a punchline.

i wouldn't change the channel if it came on the car radio. i kinda like most things that sound like this on the radio. cuz they sound cool. but i'm not crazy. i don't think its a great song or anything. lacklustre even! i can see members of the random generation digging the video.

a lot of her hip-hop signifiers feel v "very interesting, miley, you are very interested in black people" 2 me

― battle hyrr of the shepublic (m bison), Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:29 AM Bookmark

uh huh

― The Reverend, Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:16 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

almost get a vibe like...i dunno maybe one or both of her parents are racist or something, has that kinda vibe like she's cluelessly rebelling against that in a really awkward way

you people. "I'm moving to a more urban sound" is literally the same line every Disney/teenpop/boy band/girl band singer in history has given when promo-ing their solo work. it is as cliched as "it's our best album yet."

put another way: I don't like Miley's new single at all but there is no way she isn't receiving a disproportionate amount of shit because "Miley Cyrus" is still a punchline.

― katherine, Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:30 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dunno. a couple years ago Demi Lovato had that line and had some awkward Timbaland club songs on her album, but there was no twerking w/ Juicy J or whatever. even Britney working with the Neptunes back in the day was kind of polite and dignified in comparison to what Miley's doing.

So this is what you guys were talking about when you wanted to name the rolling rap thread "nurse ratchet"?

even Britney working with the Neptunes back in the day was kind of polite and dignified in comparison to what Miley's doing.

i don't think the difference between this video and "i'm a slave 4 u" is that the latter is "polite and dignified" when britney was in the middle of a fucking orgy in that clip

there's nothing undignified about orgies, necessarily. there is something undignified about that miley video, especially wrt the way she tries to incorporate elements of hip hop culture and imagery.

have you seen the "i'm a slave 4 u" video

the better touchstone for miley is obv xtina's "dirrty" tho, both were going for that LOOK A FURRY thing rather than just sweaty humpa pumpa

also if we're going to talk about a short-haired white lady in a white tank top incorporating elements of hip hop culture and imagery we should probably acknowledge gwen stefani.

gwen pulls it off better. the reason this doesn't work isn't so much about cultural appropriation -- which is a fraught issue i don't want to get into bc i am not sure what my feelings are, really, on that topic as a whole -- as it as about the fact that the hip hop stuff seems lame and forced.

britney and xtina similarly had swagger and stage presence. miley lacks charisma.

oh yeah it's definitely less spirited than xtina or gwen's forays

i like the artier, surrealisty elements of that video sort of. although i don't really understand why miley cyrus is a pop star. that sounds harsh, but i don't think there is anything distinctive or compelling about her.

for some reason i have trouble picturing people playing this song at their high school parties or whatever. maybe it'll be background music for the next morning when they're all hungover, cleaning up broken beer bottles and vomit or something.

the kids still listen to broken english for that.

but yeah, the song sucks and i don't think it will catch on.

even Britney working with the Neptunes back in the day was kind of polite and dignified in comparison to what Miley's doing.

i don't think the difference between this video and "i'm a slave 4 u" is that the latter is "polite and dignified" when britney was in the middle of a fucking orgy in that clip

― da croupier, Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:38 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh wow it's almost like that's what i was saying jeez

i think the song has a good chance of catching on actually

hm. it is getting a good deal of promotion. but it's not catchy. i don't even remember how it sounds and i watched the video twice.

i don't like it much (i liked a few things on her first one and "robot" on can't be tamed) but i kinda dig how glazed and listless it is for a party anthem. miley is a stoner.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18rfv771rz7y6gif/k-bigpic.gif

destined to become a classic

the gif that is. not the song.

almost get a vibe like...i dunno maybe one or both of her parents are racist or something, has that kinda vibe like she's cluelessly rebelling against that in a really awkward way

― personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, June 21, 2013 12:33 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I used to know a girl from Birmingham, and in high school, when she wanted to get her daddy real mad, she would tell her parents that her next album would have an urban influence and that Babyface was already on board as producer

you people. "I'm moving to a more urban sound" is literally the same line every Disney/teenpop/boy band/girl band singer in history has given when promo-ing their solo work. it is as cliched as "it's our best album yet."

put another way: I don't like Miley's new single at all but there is no way she isn't receiving a disproportionate amount of shit because "Miley Cyrus" is still a punchline.

― katherine, Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:30 PM Bookmark

If it was just moving to a more urban sound that would be one thing and I would have zero fucks to give about that and might even like it, but the degree of cluelessness with which she's engaging black culture puts me in mind of any number of vaguely racist white people I have known so

maybe she should leave this to the pros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ilh1ewceco

That song always fools momentarily me into thinking it's Shakira when I hear it in the supermarket.

it fooled me until right now when I remembered oh shit right it's Jewel

jewel had to have her cake and eat it though with the whole Adbusters meta anti-consumerism commentary.

My last words post's are of out order. :(

boy, anti-Britney Spears parodies from 10-15 years ago are just the worst.

11 million+ people have watched this in the time it's been up

maybe i don't follow youtube that much but that seems like a lot for someone who hasn't had a proper mega-smash song since 2009

i mean, she has a very healthy youtube following, even for her minor hits (and outside her music)... but i think this was definitely intended to be an 'event video'. and i guess it has succeeded b/c i think it broke some kind of obscure record for youtube views in one day among females or something like that

her last album was in 2010 and flopped massively (it sold less in total than the album before it did in the first week). but she was still really really famous at her peak, and this song/video were preceded by like a year of public appearances talking about her new look/sound/image so there's a lot of curiosity around this. i'm REALLY hoping the awfulness of this video tips the whole project over into universal laughing stock status and it doesn't actually take off at radio once the initial PR smoke clears.

she's been twerking for like 6 months now, if people found it distasteful we'd prob already know

um they do and we do?

i'm not talking about bloggers & i didn't think you were

i haven't seen much positive chatter about her new image/sound anywhere BESIDES condescending teenpop tumblr types, many of whom have backed off after the video and/or the article about how she wanted a 'black' sound

it's possible she's just gonna tap into the audience ke$ha used to have and do the same kind of numbers, but i don't see that as a given

i think the percentage of the 14 million people who saw that video and were like "ugh i'm done with this" is not significant

but i could be wrong! we'll see

if nothing else similar is coming out right now then she might do really good! it is summer after all. wait, i have no idea when her album is actually coming out. she better hurry up.

the song is kinda annoying to me but it sounds like something that could be a very big hit right now

did they play her song with snoop on the radio?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evbtRNtz8s

it's already the 2nd highest charting Mike Will production on the Hot 100, after the YouTube views it'll probably become the highest and get into the top 10 in a week or two. that usually makes radio stations start adding a song, although not always (see: Psy's "Gentleman"). but i can't remember the last time i wanted a song to flop this much, as much because of what its success would signify/encourage as because i just don't want to hear it again.

the whole Snoop Lion thing was not successful at all

actually Snoop Lion is a good example of how something can get huge initial publicity for 'well known artist tries something new for them that's kind of ill-advised' but the controversy/attention doesn't translate at all to actual success

oh c'mon it's snoop putting a reggae album out on vice, they are not comparable situations

you say it like it was a little indie project tossed out without a publicity blitz or tons of press coverage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXFXwenVJg4

The music video for "Luxurious" was directed by Sophie Muller. In the video, Stefani plays a chola in high school.[3] Then Stefani, accompanied by her Harajuku Girls, receive a manicure at a beauty salon, and styling her hair and applying cosmetics in front of a mirror. She shows off gold jewellery with her name carved on it. During his rap, Slim Thug appears in sequences with either Stefani or two Harajuku Girls. It concludes with Stefani joining her friends in a block party, where they celebrate with breakdancing and a barbecue. The video is intercut with sequences of Stefani breaking open piñatas and lying on a candy-covered floor, styled in a fashion resembling Mexican painter Frida Kahlo.

miley better hurry with that album cuz her arch-nemesis is dropping her dubstep masterpiece in july.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGEf8dXN2sU

I'm predicting hit. Crappy song, but well timed for the summer and the video sells it. It was all my friends could talk about last night, so we pulled it up and watched it together again, and as much as nobody purported to like it, it had the feeling of an event.

Also the song is catchy in a Ca-stanza kind of way, so a few hate views is all it takes to hook you. I've had the "can't you see it's we who own the night" refrain in my head all morning.

if "Party in the USA" became a hit, this will become a hit too; Miley already had one massive hurdle to clear (Radio Disney ==> actual radio), and that cleared it for good.

but again COME THE FUCK ON; if you see any discernible difference between this video and fuck, I don't know, Rita Ora's "Party (How We Do)" or Ke$ha's "Blow," I just fundamentally don't know what you're seeing. the "singer hosts party with quirky GIF-ready moments and presumably wild style that will be dissected and sponsored by style blogs" video has been done many times, as has "vague terry richardson aesthetics."

(well, the racial stuff is a discernible difference, and Miley should probably get shit for it, but at a certain point it stops being about Miley being racist and starts being about Miley being Hannah Montana, LOL. also, if anyone should get shit for this bieber should have gotten LOADS last year for half his songs/videos. but nope!)

Some of this just seems like a more awkward version of a KreayshawnLilDebbieVnasty video
http://cdnl.complex.com/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2013/06/content/1371661319_21qsz.gif
http://cdnl.complex.com/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2013/06/content/1371661292_21qsh.gif

i wouldn't say bieber doesn't get loads of shit, but the tone is definitely more "oh, you" rather than "how dare you"

while i think a big part of why she's getting more grief than her precedents in appropriation is the relative lack of charisma/quality, i do wonder if someone like Gwen Stefani would get more grief in the tumblr era - i mean No Doubt did have to pull their tribute to Native American culture recently.

stefani/madonna etc always knew how to do the "oh my god, i have so much respect for the rich and interesting culture i will now prance around in front of" thing in interviews

well, the racial stuff is a discernible difference, and Miley should probably get shit for it, but at a certain point it stops being about Miley being racist and starts being about Miley being Hannah Montana, LOL.

i got the sense that, like bieber, people were ready for her transition in sound... there has been a positive reaction from my POV to her twerking obsession this year. but then the "i wanted a black sound" thing came out and this video is just really awkward and uncomfortable aaaaand yeah, that's a not a minor difference.

that's the thing though - miley's not doing anything worse than countless people before her, she's just doing a worse job of it. throw in sexism and voila.

like mike d and macklemore, i'd love it if stefani and miley did an "I learned it by watching you! I learned it by watching you!" PSA.

the better touchstone for miley is obv xtina's "dirrty" tho, both were going for that LOOK A FURRY thing rather than just sweaty humpa pumpa

― da croupier, Friday, June 21, 2013 1:41 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jesus christ, I remember seeing the video for 'Dirrty' for the first time and thinking "what the fuck is this? do people actually find the 'haven't had a shower or a bath in six weeks' look attractive or sexually stimulating now? what the fuck?". Her look circa 'Dirrty' was about as arousing as a fucking P45 autographed by Margaret Thatcher.

gwen built a career desecrating the rich cultural history of jamaica so anything after that kinda beside the point.

(well, the racial stuff is a discernible difference, and Miley should probably get shit for it, but at a certain point it stops being about Miley being racist and starts being about Miley being Hannah Montana, LOL. also, if anyone should get shit for this bieber should have gotten LOADS last year for half his songs/videos. but nope!)

― katherine, Friday, June 21, 2013 10:04 AM Bookmark

Again, I don't care who was or wasn't Hannah Montana. I've never seen or heard anything to do with HM and the only other Miley song I've even come into contact with is "Party in the USA". And it's not like I haven't spent 1000x as much time this year talking shit about Macklemore and race than I've even spent thinking about the existence of Miley Cyrus. I didn't see any of Bieber's videos from last year, but I thought it was widely known that he's a tool.

he's a dweeb.

oh I know; I wasn't singling you (or anyone) out, more so the general cultural reaction

if "Party in the USA" became a hit, this will become a hit too; Miley already had one massive hurdle to clear (Radio Disney ==> actual radio), and that cleared it for good.

but again COME THE FUCK ON; if you see any discernible difference between this video and fuck, I don't know, Rita Ora's "Party (How We Do)" or Ke$ha's "Blow," I just fundamentally don't know what you're seeing. the "singer hosts party with quirky GIF-ready moments and presumably wild style that will be dissected and sponsored by style blogs" video has been done many times, as has "vague terry richardson aesthetics."

(well, the racial stuff is a discernible difference, and Miley should probably get shit for it, but at a certain point it stops being about Miley being racist and starts being about Miley being Hannah Montana, LOL. also, if anyone should get shit for this bieber should have gotten LOADS last year for half his songs/videos. but nope!)

― katherine, Friday, June 21, 2013 12:04 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so basically there's nothing noteworthy about this except the thing that makes it noteworthy

haha yeah, exactly

To my homegirls here with the big butts
Shaking it like we at a strip club
Remember only God can judge us
Forget the haters cause somebody loves ya

^ this bit in particular evokes SO many country-wite-girl-now-lives-in-the-city racially awkward moments that I've witnessed IRL

Yeah it's v Lena Dunham

the race stuff is just one problem people seem to have with this along with the outfits or the hairstyles or whichever quirky shot or the "charisma" (which is nebulous enough to mean basically anything).

what's a reason to like it though?

i mean yeah, people are being harsher to miley then to someone they had any goodwill for, and dumbass pop ladies get more fury than dumbass pop dudes, but is there a reason to NOT think this sucks even if you're aware that its crimes are commonplace?

I honestly didn't take crüt for the strip club type.

I liked the skull made out of french fries

the rest was p embarrassing

I don't think it is incumbent upon us as message board contributors to be "fair" in our analysis of every pop single that is released with jillions of dollars of promotion behind it. Miley is not a great pop star like gwen or britney, and while saying she is lame, awkward, and painfully tone deaf wrt racial politics might be nebulous...so?

i will buy new britney cd on day of release. though i read that it is being exec produced by will.i.am. and i don't know whether i should be scared or not. "big fat bass" was his contribution to femme fatale and it definitely stood out but hardly my fave. give me dr. luke or give me death.

To my homegirls here with the big butts
Shaking it like we at a strip club
Remember only God can judge us
Forget the haters cause somebody loves ya

^ this bit in particular evokes SO many country-wite-girl-now-lives-in-the-city racially awkward moments that I've witnessed IRL

― crüt, Friday, 21 June 2013 20:01 (43 minutes ago) Permalink

yeah this basically sounds like a facebook status update from one of my straight-from-u-conn-undergrad law school classmates

anyway this song sucks, this video sucks, and I don't even feel like talking about it on the internet. I'm out.

xps i feel like dr. luke is struggling right now to get the same audience he used to, honestly. he had comparatively few big hits last year, and lots of underperforming singles, including singles that were once supposed to be leads but then (rightly) just tossed off as afterthoughts (i'm talking about "va va voom" here). it's probably a good thing that he's not exec producing britney's next album, and honestly i wouldn't be surprised if the involvement of other people on, say, katy perry's next album goes up significantly as well.

but anyway

at a certain point it stops being about Miley being racist and starts being about Miley being Hannah Montana, LOL

well yes, the reaction at large is also driven by some of the usual things that young women who once performed almost exclusively to children have to face. if you look at the youtube at any given time the next most common comment after "miley u r not black, wut r u doing???" is "she is a slut now!!!!!!!!!!!" and stuff like that

to be fair dr. luke signed a noncompete contract with Sony so that probably cut down on the quantity a bit.

oh yeah, i forgot about that

but, like, even the material he did manage to put out has not done as well as expected (like, the whole ke$ha album except "die young")

meanwhile, talk about a weird party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP7GNxLI9fM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xoAR3Ujm6aE#at=246

http://thetwist03.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/mcmiracles-christopher-chiappa.jpg
http://www.katewerblegallery.com/index.php?/artist-images/christopher-chiappa/

I have some thoughts on this video and its various critics.

i like this song tbh, it has a sort of doleful poignancy

good blog post. the issue of cultural appropriation is difficult. taking a hard line against it seems akin to insisting that people remain vigilant in maintaining a separation between "black culture" and "white culture," which seems dangerous to me and also inaccurate, owing to the multiplicity of experiences and identities in america, which these discussions often obscure.

still, i think there was something "off" about the dilettantish way miley engaged with hip hop imagery in that video. also, as a white person it's not my place to be offended or to not be offended, of course.

taking a hard line against it seems akin to insisting that people remain vigilant in maintaining a separation between "black culture" and "white culture," which seems dangerous to me and also inaccurate, owing to the multiplicity of experiences and identities in america, which these discussions often obscure.

also, as a white person it's not my place to be offended or to not be offended, of course.

How can you post these two sentences back to back and believe both of them?

i think the people bringing out the big thinkpiece guns on either side are trying a little too hard. the whole thing can pass for fail just as a piece of music or a video or a pop culture phenomenon or a career move. for me personally, it all kinda sucks.

for me personally, it all kinda sucks.

i think you say "board description"

The video at least contains several striking images that work well as gifs, which is all that's really required in 2013. But the song's pretty bad.

I'm just curious why writers who take these hard lines about culture insist on individual bylines—if they're gonna reduce entire swaths of population to racial and ethnic groups, without taking into account any other aspect of their existence, shouldn't they adopt the same position w/r/t their own work and just publish as "A Black Person," "A Jewish Person," "A Gay Person," etc.?

i think that's a good idea for display names yeah

-A Some Person

- A Trill Ass Wite Tween

were there thinkpieces about NKOTB back in the day? lotta fun appropriation issues to chew on, from "hangin' tough" to "dirty dog"

my memory of New Kids is pretty foggy and limited to 'eww that's what my older female cousins like' but was there anything more culturally specific about their image/lyrics than just some vague 'we have ripped jeans and other decades-old signifiers of rebellious teen boys'?

This song & video just sucks

Sometimes lame clueless shit is just lame clueless shit

my memory of New Kids is pretty foggy and limited to 'eww that's what my older female cousins like' but was there anything more culturally specific about their image/lyrics than just some vague 'we have ripped jeans and other decades-old signifiers of rebellious teen boys'?

educate yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5OY_H2_rQ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDi3N-4Ckc

just dig on the first 30 seconds of this

lol wow i've been missing out

oh man the malcom x jacket

this is why boy band parodies are never that funny, there's just no way to top the real thing

All Right, all right, what an odd sight
here's another MC, who's skin is white!
a white kid, a white boy, with a white face
just like the Beastie Boys and 3RD Bass
hmmmm! now this looks like a topic for discussion
to build racial tension for fussin' and cussin'
or maybe this will even cause some controversy
but first I think it's time I kick a little verse!
see some do hip hop and forget where it started,
and claim that a white complexion ain't the
reason why their records charted.....please!
man it's so easy to see
when a white dude raps the public seeks it as a novelty!
even me although I take it seriously
some just like me because of my R-A-C-E,
but I won't wait and I won't stop
cuz I do hip hop records just because I love hip hop

Marky Mark, "So What Chu Sayin'" (writing credits given to Marky, Donnie and Danny)

still waiting for someone to write the definitive hick hop piece. wish chuck would.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7opc9TGMrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPxdTfFJeVA

"mud dynasty" kinda hilarious. selling mason jars full of dirt instead of crack.

some of us ilm folks did a pretty extensive one a while back: http://www.spin.com/articles/rap-country-uncomfortable-history-accidental-racist/

and i love how Twang & Round's label is Bluegrass Cheddar.

aha i missed the spin thing. but i kinda like how their is a whole wave of undie labels/videos/etc for so many acts. and they never really get written about seriously. or maybe i've missed it if they have.

jawga boyz pretty internet-huge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mjMFDBEVSA

and i like this moonshine bandits vid more than miley's too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-glMLXWHPU

but that one's pretty old.

anyway its an obvious point but it needs to be repeated a la phil's thing, its just so normal for kids now to grow up loving country pop, rap, r&b club hits, its all just radio hugeness and so normal. miley looking goofy is just miley looking goofy. i just wish she would actually push MORE buttons. but i always wish that everyone would. a nice party anthem about her love for cough syrup, then we'd have something!

or a love song to weed! featuring snoop. on her new album. that would be timely and awesome. "Goin' To Colorado(Rocky MTN HI)"(f.snoop lion)

*john denver sample courtesy of the estate of john denver*

the "cultural appropriation" stuff seems like a cartoonish portrayal of teen (mis)behavior, in keeping with everything else in the video.

https://i2.sndcdn.com/artworks-000052138309-yr043k-t500x500.jpg

https://soundcloud.com/wsnyder23/we-cant-stop-feat-khia

As someone who spent most of college being the only black guy at the party and thus the first person every other suburban white kid at the party asked where they could score weed from, I appreciate that Miley is being raked over the coals for the kind of thoughtless appropriation born from trying to rebel against their parents that's going on here. Chalking it up to typical teen behavior doesn't make it any less obnoxious, especially when you have to interact with these people.

still waiting for someone to write the definitive hick hop piece. wish chuck would.

Scott - I wrote almost half of that Spin extravaganza, I think -- including a long pre-history (back to the 19th Century!) and a roundup of current crappy bands. You should check it out.

if it was "just" her working with a hip-hop producer and dancing with a mixed race crowd in a video it'd be pretty commonplace and not particularly noteworthy. it's more about the supreme awkwardness of her singing "to my homegirls with the big butts" while she shakes her skinny ass and a trio of black women stare into her butthole with wonderment.

i'm gonna read it! but i kinda think the current crappy bands are interesting as an underground phenomena. would like to know how much radio play they get down south. are there clubs that play a mix of southern rap and hick hop?

Still think Tony Green's hick-hop piece from a dozen years ago is definitive, though.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-11-27/music/self-hating-hicks/1/

i remember that piece! but i feel like it has really, uh, blossomed since then. post-bubba/kid/etc. its a full-fledged genre. with tiny little labels and all that good stuff.

i mean Bottleneck can get over a million youtube hits and they don't really exist in the wider world. catchy guitar riff too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvMhZxFTNus

a trio of black women stare into her butthole with wonderment

counting down to new DJP display name

autotuned hick hop heroes The Lacs had Bubba on their last album. a visit from the godfather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTJ5SNcwIl0

As someone who spent most of college being the only black guy at the party and thus the first person every other suburban white kid at the party asked where they could score weed from, I appreciate that Miley is being raked over the coals for the kind of thoughtless appropriation born from trying to rebel against their parents that's going on here. Chalking it up to typical teen behavior doesn't make it any less obnoxious, especially when you have to interact with these people.

― Greer, Sunday, July 7, 2013 5:04 PM Bookmark

Word.

I'm not going to sit here picking apart every part of this post I disagree with cause I'd be here all day, but...

In some way that’s never clearly explained, black people’s experience of pop culture is apparently radically different from white people’s experience of that exact same pop culture, even though they’re both getting it from the same websites, radio stations, and cable channels.

But like, yeah, it actually is.

OK, so go ahead and explain how every black person, every single one, because they're all the same, experiences pop culture in the exact same way, and explain how that is different from how every white person, every single one, because they're all the same, experiences pop culture.

If you can come up with definitions of "black" and "white" that everyone in the world can agree on at the same time, that'd be great, too...

or he can ignore you since you're being an idiot

'durrr who's to say miley cyrus isn't black?'

dont tell my heart my achy breaky heart

otm

re my last post:

greer otm, redacted. simply portraying some kids acting like idiots would be nbd, but the video fully embraces the idiocy.

OK, so go ahead and explain how every black person, every single one, because they're all the same, experiences pop culture in the exact same way, and explain how that is different from how every white person, every single one, because they're all the same, experiences pop culture.

― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:14 PM (59 minutes ago)

to say that race affects experience is not to say that all people of any given race are exactly the same. i mean, come on, that should be self-evident.

Hey unperson, if you want to put words in my mouth and cry foul over some "BLACK PEOPLE WHO SEE RACISM ARE THE REAL RACISTS!" canard, you are welcome to go fuck yourself with a tan.

I kind of both like and dislike the video; the song as well. On the negative side, the problem with the whole 'wanting to be black' or whatever is not the fact that she does it but HOW she does it. It's crass and offensive and it doesn't look genuine at all. It may be in part the director's fault, though. But I love the 'art' references, regardless of whether they work, because... well, how often do we get to see a video with so many. I like the song because it's got a good chorus, but it sounds like something Rihanna could've done a million times better.

I dig the arty aspects of the video too. The clumsiness of the way she approaches hip hop imagery - as an outsider, or tourist, for novelty effect - is the only problem with it. It's offensive bc of the way she engages with black signifiers not because any engagement should be verboten, which some of the clumsier thinkpieces seem to suggest by using the vague term "appropriation."

Lord . Is It Really A Big Deal About Her Being A Role Model To The Kids ? Don't Get Me Wrong , She Didnt Handle That With Her Youngers Fan Right But Really . Ik You Can Say What You Please But God ! It Isn't The Fact She Grew Up , It's The Fact That Now She Showing Her True Colors . No One Knows How She Would Have Turned Out Without Flame . This Is Probably The Real Her . No One Has A Problem With Beyonce Showing A Little Butt ? The Dance Twerking Was MADE So Why Can't She Do It ? Let Her Do Her

very divisive youtube comments

If the song was dope no one wd GAF

Of course, the reason it's not dope is to some degree related to why ppl GAF

the fact that it's vacuous garbage?

D-40 otm. the whole thing kind of reminds me of rich white girls i have known who would jokingly speak in "ghetto" voices sometimes. those rich white girls are clearly racist, and what miley is doing seems somehow of a piece with that: even though she is not mocking southern hip hop, she is kind of exploiting the dissonance between the image people have of her and the image people have of people who wear grills. this is lame, and racist: like someone who says they are "so white lol" in faux self-deprecation when what they are really doing is parading their whiteness and privilege.

But anyway, my point is that the issue is more subtle than her "stealing" signifiers that don't "belong" to her.

It's not offensive because she's engaging with black culture, it's because she's doing it in a way that feels really condescending.

I'm afraid of asking because race is a touchy subject, but this is an honest question: why is hip hop imagery about race? Not all black people are hip hoppers. Would a black person dressing up as a goth be accused of cultural appropriation?

guys shes a poser

Man, that second new kids song
Just wow

re: goths and race

fyi: http://bedlambedlam.com/2013/04/its-time-to-admit-that-goth-culture-has-a-race-problem/

why is hip hop imagery about race? Not all black people are hip hoppers.

this isn't how anything actually works fyi.

even the 'striking imagery'/'arty aspects' of the video that people like just seem like 8th generation warmed over Lady Gaga faux pop art crap

There are far too many shots of her tongue sticking out, especially at the end, when it gets worse.

why is hip hop imagery about race? Not all black people are hip hoppers. Would a black person dressing up as a goth be accused of cultural appropriation?

― LeRooLeRoo, Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:11 PM (Yesterday)

all apologies, but i find it hard to believe that you are real

lately i been thinking a lot about the doubly "false" oppositions of "Disney clean tween superstar" and "sexytimes raunchbot shaking it for the grown-ups" but these thoughts haven't cohered yet except to say that neither role is really a "reaction against" the other

seems to me that the progression must be endorsed by the people that manage, market and handle the performers involved

they feel like 2 aspects of the same objectification tho right? i mean as far as female performers go - not just thinking of Miley - there's an almost abject "angel/whore" thing going on with some people's career paths

I've never doubted Miley's intentions. I think she's behind all facets of her image change and feels it represents her and that it is not a PR move. I just don't happen to like it, her or her voice, but I do believe the authenticity of her sticking her tongue out thinking she's cool.

they feel like 2 aspects of the same objectification tho right? i mean as far as female performers go - not just thinking of Miley - there's an almost abject "angel/whore" thing going on with some people's career paths

right, absolutely. that a/w progression seems to have become almost de rigueur in recent years, as though "adult entertainer" were built into "innocent teenstar" from the beginning.

otoh, maybe it's that we're only now allowing young celebrities the right to this kind of self-expression, i dunno. probably a combination of the two.

i don't worry too much about self-expression/manufacturedness - they happen together within a process, nobody is really a prisoner of their public image against their will, but a public image is a collaborative process. it's more horrible that this limited notion of what yr self-expression cd be seems more entrenched than ever, when there are tons of playful options inbetween

like Miley didn't invent minstrelsy or its modern cartoon rapper iterations but she seems quite into playing out this version of it and nobody who works with her or around her seems to be saying "hey have you thought about this for a moment?"

the video is kind of a perfect reflection/fantasy of what an ex-tween (white) superstar might consider to be OMG-so-ramdom-cool in 2013. so, points for honesty. 20 year olds are often awkward and bad at stealing. which is a little weird only cuz she has enough money to hire people who could make her look/sound cooler. on the other hand, her fans might enjoy her oh so random vision/fantasy. at least the ones who aren't going on about how she should be more like hannah and less of a slut. so much slut talk. slut-shaming. anti-slut-shaming backlash. on the internet.

Again? We got to have this out again?

You can't wall off and sacred this stuff and you're never gonna stop white teenage girls twerking for obvious reasons. I don't know, shrug, good luck with it white girls... time for something new.

think there might be some difference between a bit of impromptu dancing in your room/with your buds/at the club and "hey everybody check out my new megabucks video"

this one fits better

she was really funny as hannah montana. so goofy and cornpone. she could have been a regular on hee haw. and she has never had a fear of looking dumb. the video could have worked if it had been done with that sense of humor. and if the song were better...

"If you guys don't mind, I'm gonna add a little HIP-HOP to this hoedown."

Pop, lock, polka dot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BI_anbu4pw

I've never doubted Miley's intentions. I think she's behind all facets of her image change and feels it represents her and that it is not a PR move. I just don't happen to like it, her or her voice, but I do believe the authenticity of her sticking her tongue out thinking she's cool.

― abcfsk, Monday, July 8, 2013 7:31 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. it seems pretty 'sincere' in that it's all coming from her and she almost seems to be doing this whether or not she believes it's a good career move. it's still just terrible.

http://www.autostraddle.com/the-24-gayest-things-in-the-new-miley-cyrus-video-we-cant-stop-181642/

Is it even worth watching this thing?

by the numbers, it will make your life 0.000000678% worse, due to its unpleasantness and cringe-inducingness, which are not offset sufficiently by the cool arty elements of the video. however, if you don't watch it you can't be a part of the Critical Conversation so there's that.

Dan this is just an even dumber version of a debate you've already had 75 times on ilm

you know what they say about that 76th dumb time though...

thanks M@tt, good looking out

I feel bad for mike will. Weird horse to back man. But I'm sure being a hop hop producer in 2013 is conflicting like that

so i was in h&m and i heard a song and i was like hmm, is this a new rihanna song?? and i fired up shazam. imagine my shock...

I want to think mike will just sent them the most the most phoned-in pop beat that he had saved on his hard drive, but I fear he's actually putting some effort into this

https://twitter.com/MikeWiLLMadeIt/statuses/353000637899874304

I feel bad for mike will. Weird horse to back man. But I'm sure being a hop hop producer in 2013 is conflicting like that

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, July 8, 2013 9:33 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i suspect he's just in a cynical 'a pop star wants to work with me, this will be big' mindset and doesn't really care about the quality of the music or any deeper implications. which would be fair, since "We Can't Stop" is already his highest peaking Hot 100 hit to date at #3 (his only other top ten was the Lil Wayne song that got to #9).

this song hasn't showed up on ANY of Billboard's airplay-driven charts yet so i still have a shred of hope that this song will never be a big radio hit.

like Miley didn't invent minstrelsy or its modern cartoon rapper iterations but she seems quite into playing out this version of it and nobody who works with her or around her seems to be saying "hey have you thought about this for a moment?"

― the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Monday, July 8, 2013 7:38 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the video is kind of a perfect reflection/fantasy of what an ex-tween (white) superstar might consider to be OMG-so-ramdom-cool in 2013. so, points for honesty. 20 year olds are often awkward and bad at stealing. which is a little weird only cuz she has enough money to hire people who could make her look/sound cooler. on the other hand, her fans might enjoy her oh so random vision/fantasy. at least the ones who aren't going on about how she should be more like hannah and less of a slut. so much slut talk. slut-shaming. anti-slut-shaming backlash. on the internet.

― scott seward, Monday, July 8, 2013 7:45 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Again? We got to have this out again?

You can't wall off and sacred this stuff and you're never gonna stop white teenage girls twerking for obvious reasons. I don't know, shrug, good luck with it white girls... time for something new.

― Popture, Monday, July 8, 2013 7:49 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just wanted to throw a huge otm at these posts

from what i understand mike will is very invested in / interested in /excited about working w/ miley

hey look he's working with another questionable pop singer
http://instagram.com/p/bgdJ8gFhsG/

man, Dionne Farris has seen better days

i like this song tbh, it has a sort of doleful poignancy

― r|t|c, Sunday, July 7, 2013 4:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah this, the 'dancing to molly' part in par|t|c

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/80424/qa-veteran-music-video-director-diane-martel-on-her-controversial-videos-for-robin-thicke-and-miley-cyrus Interview with the video director. Couple of things, she's a she and she also did ODB's Brooklyn Zoo... Onyx's Throw Ya Gunz and Gang Starr - Mass Appeal...

I wanted to deal with the misogynist, funny lyrics in a way where the girls were going to overpower the men. Look at Emily Ratajkowski’s performance; it’s very, very funny and subtly ridiculing. That’s what is fresh to me. It also forces the men to feel playful and not at all like predators. I directed the girls to look into the camera, this is very intentional and they do it most of the time; they are in the power position. I don’t think the video is sexist. The lyrics are ridiculous, the guys are silly as fuck. That said, I respect women who are watching out for negative images in pop culture and who find the nudity offensive, but I find [the video] meta and playful.

from what i understand mike will is very invested in / interested in /excited about working w/ miley

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, July 8, 2013 10:29 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah he's enthusiastic. but, like, because he loves her voice or her back catalog or her artistic potential, or because there are dollar signs in his eyes?

otoh the comments on the Miley video (she's twenty! she loves dancing!) are less self-aware

she loves dancing, her tongue

Both this video and "Blurred Lines" really seem to get authentically playful performances.

I like this quote from the interview above:
She and I loved the idea of her being over the top. Her “modeling” is crazy, like what the fuck is she doing in this video? Her teddy bear dancing, she’s kissing her doll, she’s riding a horrible bike with her butt out. I don’t see another female pop star getting into a girl fight in her video. This video is fucked up and fun. It’s like a long Vine.

Lots of appropriating at parties on Vine.

Also, I forgive everything she does ever since she bought this house.

damn. that's where i wanna go when i die.

I have nothing to contribute to this thread <--clip & save BUT big missed opportunity to call this "rolling off a miley thread 2013."

lol truuuuuuu

i actually want to know, did all the 'molly cyrus' songs come out before or after she uploaded that vid of herself twerking in a dinosaur costume

I'm trying to make "tweaking in a dinosaur costume" fit to the tune of "Raspberry Beret" but it's just not working ;_;

PS I hate my phone's autocorrect

dig if you will the picture
a booty-shakin little wite miss
twerkin in a unicorn costume
can you my darlin, can you picture this

huh i didn't know the thicke and cyrus videos were done by the same director. that's some impressive...attention-getting?

yeah it is pretty interesting. her claim is that she is deliberately trying to make videos that drive sales... and given that those two songs are parked in the top 2 slots on itunes in the u.s., apparently she is succeeding so far.

given all that, i find myself wondering whether controversial content is practically required for a massively sales-driving music video in 2013... or maybe all they need is some shots that make for nice rebloggable gifs?

she is deliberately trying to make videos that drive sales

imagine!

I think some images work well - the retro-graphic Anon face for the screwed vocal; the white bread mountain; the teddy bears - other things, like the 'smoke dicks', I could live without.

Keep thinking that there's another possible version of this track that places more emphasis on the druggy vibe of excess, rather than rank attempts at street/hip-hop appropriation.

martel's style is basically a mix of Sophie Muller (flattering frequent close-ups of the artist that are almost like glamour shots) and Mark Romanek (striking images probably jacked from photography books), both old vets whose work would be pretty giffable too, in that they make sure to include shots you wouldn't mind watching 800 times. She's good at it, but it only comes off as novel because most videos these days aren't even up to the level of "spotlight the face of the artist and have some memorable images."

Hearing that she did "Brooklyn Zoo" and "Bring the Pain" has me ready to forgive all sins tbh.

you're so easy...

but so right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvLmUmbLbsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf4QSFK1dRE

<3

Lil B was so far ahead of the curve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukhk_IZlPlI

haha I forgot the "rappers using 'Miley Cyrus' as a stand-in for 'white girl'" layer of all this

wow, there are at least 15 rap tracks, 2 rap beats and 1 EDM-trap track on youtube called "Molly Cyrus"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vysnVMPKBmM

i don't even really know why i'm lolling so hard

for the record i should just like to state that i am genuinely very fond of this tune and far prefer it to all ur alleged summer jams

All of them?? :-/

I do kinda like this though?

i actually had a dream last night, a nightmare really, that i had begun to enjoy this song. it sounded different and better in the dream, though, so i think i'm safe.

i actually like the song better while watching parts of the video... i don't think the song is great but i don't mind it anymore.

xxp well the big 3 as ilx-advertised

i do love #hermosa obv but it's not reeeeaaally taken off irl and the sugar & poison here is more stimulating

I don't even know what the big 3 are.

Me either, what are they?

blurred, lucky, #

Get Lucky, Blurred Lines, Accidental Racist

xpost oh yeah.

Don't fuck around like this is better than #

Just noticed the #Hermosa video version, which is a considerable improvement over the original.

o well yeah this is better than "get lucky" if that's the measuring stick, prob would rather hear it than "blurred lines" at this point too

whenever i try to sing it in my head it ends up lurching into "we are young" though :(

it's not like this has had irl traction though ime, i think i'd like it whole lot more if it had

also when i finally watched the video there was a whole lot less uhhh cluelessly-trying-to-be-"black" than i expected! a hundred times less egregious than eg "do it like a dude"

o god "do it like a dude"

i actually had a dream last night, a nightmare really, that i had begun to enjoy this song. it sounded different and better in the dream, though, so i think i'm safe.

― some dude, Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:48 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i had one of these but with rockie fresh's rapping as the star

clearly sleep is no barrier for such vivid imaginations

usually i dream about being late for work or running the errands i had planned to do the next day

i'm really into this song, whole vibe works for me now

her voice sounds so bad though

i think it's fine

this song is boring & corny.

im sure thru un-dislocateable cultural presence i'll start not minding it at some point

I quite like the vacant sounding bassy-synth in the chorus tbh. But there's really so much else to dislike.

Apparently Diane Martel released a "director's cut" a couple of days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzKLd9p4x3w

it's basically this in song form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPM-P7mNQw

this song is so fucking dreary and un-fun

i basically see it this way: dj screw actually managed to screw the world, and this is the celebratory pop song we got

this song is so fucking dreary and un-fun

― suggest bando (The Reverend), Friday, 2 August 2013 06:54 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

eh u exaggerate a touch but it's pretty much kinda why i like it tbrr. the text is all hedonist freedom but the undertow is plaintive isolated confinement, and humbly small pride for small things ("we don't take nothing from nobody"). "can't you see it's we who own the night?" feeling more like vulnerable plea than powerful triumph, cresting in the outright untruth of "we run things things don't run we". it compels us to question the size of the house and the state of the party. kinda like a frank ocean song but live from the inside, not caricatural observation from safe writerly distance - poisoned utopia, choked xoxo's in a xanax xanadu, buzzfeed buzzards above circling faltering prey

i basically see it this way: dj screw actually managed to screw the world, and this is the celebratory pop song we got

― Attractive Humas 2013 (a not-necessarily WS thread) (J0rdan S.), Friday, August 2, 2013 10:29 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

::throws tomato::

(yeah the rtceeba he be sipping armaretta)

eh u exaggerate a touch but it's pretty much kinda why i like it tbrr. the text is all hedonist freedom but the undertow is plaintive isolated confinement, and humbly small pride for small things ("we don't take nothing from nobody"). "can't you see it's we who own the night?" feeling more like vulnerable plea than powerful triumph, cresting in the outright untruth of "we run things things don't run we". it compels us to question the size of the house and the state of the party. kinda like a frank ocean song but live from the inside, not caricatural observation from safe writerly distance - poisoned utopia, choked xoxo's in a xanax xanadu, buzzfeed buzzards above circling faltering prey

― r|t|c, Friday, August 2, 2013 11:04 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

::tosses entire salad at you::

::hucks fries skull::

xp that's not as erotic as you thought it'd be tbh

we toss salads salads don't toss we

ok the whole second verse is a write-off now

wha-eva, i do what i want, i do what i want

kinda like a frank ocean song but live from the inside, not caricatural observation from safe writerly distance

makes sense but there's a reason Nick's the narrator, not Gatsby

a real live artifact of inept posing, fascinating, rare

BANGERZ

#rare #based

UK #1 in the bag

LOL

yup its #1 in the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23657911

i always want this video to end with a cut to the outside of the house, music suddenly muffled, and miley's dad shows up, bangs on the door, miley opens it and he's tapping his watch and she rolls her eyes and sighs and pulls her duffel bag up and follows him out to the car

#BANGERZ

http://24.media.tumblr.com/2c7359f5a1d4f95ab717d5c55f2dfb39/tumblr_ms47o4uGXM1qder2jo1_250.gif

That VMA performance somehow managed to be so much infinitely worse than the video. Holy shit.

I don't think I like her anymore.

wow that performance

http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-smiths.jpg?w=599&h=345

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4c863a09f38c4c5798f1b2a1f549f40d/tumblr_ms4d9dixJA1r8bo4jo1_500.jpg

Yeah, gross.

i have no words

Lydia down in the corner is otm.

haha at the whole Smith family's horrified looks

lil Smith kid's concerned brows finally find a comfortable home

I hope a higher res version of that screen cap turns up. I want to put Jaden's head in a bunch of future photos.

i have now properly seen this performance, it took me a while cos i needed to recover every 30 seconds

http://i.imgur.com/U7bqe5Q.gif

for some reason the abrupt entrance of 2 chainz was when i really lost my shit... the moment in time he was born for

then ur like ok, is miley gone oh no there she is still getting down with the finger

lol drake and his mans reaction tho

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSkek77CAAIu9i6.jpg

her tongue is simply amazing, like no logic in its excursions whatsoever

has it been considered that regular miley may have become a venom symbiote at some point

sort of imagine she gets someone in to clean in with a big brush like they do hippos at the zoo

lol Drake the voice of reason

the tongue thing, seriously

gaga and katy tried so hard and all miley had to do was be a nuder version of someone you can find at any frat party

Rihanna's face is also quite something during the performance.

Whats with the tongue? She's like a retarded Gene Simmons.

http://terryfoxsafehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/man-head-in-hands-007.jpg

Also this:

http://i.imgur.com/aQuJBZy.jpg

Oh my god I just realized the crime Will and Jada commited when naming their kids. Willow and Jaden? Fucking seriously? How have I never noticed this atrocity before?

http://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-education-trends/wp-content/uploads/Head-hands.jpg

http://www.thecomicstrips.com/store/add.php?iid=85306

ok i think i finally believe in trigger warnings

but triggers for what, i'm not sure

My best friend Leslie said "oh she's just being Miley."

I adore that "WHITE PEOPLE" gif.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hank-hill-twerk-gif.gif

Colin Quinn ‏@iamcolinquinn 6m
Why's Miley Cyrus the villain? Because she's got the guts to go out and say "Hey, guys I'm trying too hard! Sorry it shows!" #screweverybody

Don't think she was sorry to be showing it, tbh.

When I saw the giant inflatable bears I knew this performance was going to be massively entertaining

That Smith family reaction appears to have happened during Gaga's performance...?

The intercutting between Miley cavorting on stage and the shots of unamused black people in the audience was breathtaking, the director of the VMAs deserves an Emmy for that alone.

I adore that "WHITE PEOPLE" gif.

― Tim F, Monday, 26 August 2013 13:21 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

u have no idea how much i still regret chickening out of posting it after 'wut' won ilx eoy

wut won ilx eoy?

not le1f

of course the best thing about that gif is that despite everything it's fun you kinda wanna be having too

Wait, Inspector Norse won last year. Do people call that song "wut" or something? I guess Todd Terje's white - sure. Whatever. I've really come around on that song.

2 years ago

lol

okay i just watched this. yikes. waiting for a gif of her stepping out of the giant bear and doing the demented tongue thing.

guys, do you think miley has a choreographer? someone who is saying, "yeah, just wave your arms really proudly in the air, then do whatever it is you think is twerking?"

kind of in awe if such a person exists and is making good money, best job going

yeah, just wave your arms really proudly in the air, then do whatever it is you think is twerking? Now stick out your tongue! More! MORE!!!!!!

I'm still back on when she stuck her face in that dancer's ass

still not sure what that was supposed to be, I have some theories, though

And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
Can’t you see it’s we who own the night
Can’t you see it we who bout’ that life
And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
We run things, Things don’t run we
Why is my face in this dancer's ass

I think she accidentally got her twerking video search mixed up with some of the porn tubes

i'm mystified that miley chose to twerk while wearing something that actually shrank the size of her ass

imagifying the link above http://i.imgur.com/aQuJBZy.jpg

re: that picture above, she appears to have had the world's worst wedgie while wearing vinyl, which sounds godawful

"We Can't Stop (Because Of All The Chafing)"

you guys realize this was actually Austin Mahone impersonating Miley, right

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/8/25/21/anigif_enhanced-buzz-4786-1377481549-22.gif

thank you

I forgot he yells at a butt

― The Reverend, Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:30 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark

After Miley had black dancers peer into her butthole in the video, she decided to reverse roles on the VMAs to strike a blow for equality.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1186892_631187763613966_303748295_n.jpg

that is the fucking greatest

The little Winona Ryder cameo is perfect.

OK just watched this and wtf. j OTM.

There is nothing crueler than the internet on a Monday morning.
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everyone's def coming out of this lookin their best

heh

Omg winona

I finally watched this because the Internet made me, and ... OK, right, it's all a joke. Maybe sort of funny (I think so), maybe not, but jeez. I guess it's a sign of something or other that the mass culture still periodically decides to get fake-outraged by pop stars. Better this than Benghazi.

(I have already today endured one very sincere Facebook-linked essay by a self-identified sex-positive feminist lecturing young Miley that she's "not sexy, just sad." I am from now on confining my reading about this to ILX.)

Do you think this performance was a false flag operation?

obvs

it was funny when they censored "molly"

Oh man, I just saw a minute or so of this. Pop culture is so messed up. I feel very sorry for this young lady and I hope everyone making money off her debasement gets special treatment in Hell.

ok it's not that bad.

i feel like there's gonna be a solid year of parody twerks :( :( :(

plz don't let vinyl wedgies be a thing

they're much warmer

i wondered what vanessa bayer thought of all this w/o realizing she was involved somehow? right? (didn't watch obv)

oh dude you should watch, it's basically an SNL skit come to life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOgj2etJs3Y&feature=youtu.be

everyone should watch

it's better and worse than you could imagine

^^^ OTM

i watched the gifs

(I have already today endured one very sincere Facebook-linked essay by a self-identified sex-positive feminist lecturing young Miley that she's "not sexy, just sad." I am from now on confining my reading about this to ILX.)

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, August 26, 2013 12:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i see we have this friend in common

oooooooo weeeeeeeee what's up with that what's up with that

lmao

yesss

It kind of reminds me of the lead performance in "Showgirls", like a robot trying to act crazysexycool and failing at 2 out of 3 of those things.

Aside from the bear costumes and the uncomfortable-looking vinyl undies I don't really see why people are so entertained. Her awkward dancing and failed attempts at twerking aren't anything countless drunk white girls don't do at bars and clubs across america every weekend.

Countless drunk white girls aren't on center stage at the VMAs

also I don't know which bars you're going to where girls constantly stick their faces in each others' butts

It's not constant, but it's definitely a thing that I've witnessed.

what the

Maybe a stint singing in an 80s cover band inures one to these thing.

Her awkward dancing and failed attempts at twerking aren't anything countless drunk white girls don't do at bars and clubs across america every weekend.

so you're saying her choreographer is into realness

somebody ping me when we get a reddit ama from someone in a bear costume

aguilera still had pipes when she got tired of this shtick. cyrus has...?

xp - Pretty much. As much pointing and laughing that's going on, I don't doubt that there's are plenty of springbreakers girls out there that're into the whole schtick.

she knows her audience!

onion funny video aside, people are still talking about hannah montana in 2013.

I'm going to keep cracking this joke about a "choreographer" every few pages to see how many people I can ensnare

she knows her audience!

― scott seward, Monday, August 26, 2013 2:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

a mashup gif with Mark Sanchez's butt-related misadventure cd work nicely......

Everyone over 30 shocked by the VMAs for the 30th year in a row.

hard to believe it's been 30 years since that Laura Branigan/Michael Sembello filth-fest

yeah, that was sickening.

maniacal

watching this now. the stoned bears, especially the one on the front of her outfit, are unsettling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozpFLyh7ETE

The video ultimately drew controversy, as it was considered so shockingly steamy that MTV required some edits before it could air.

...

"Self Control"

steamy like a fresh pile of shit is sometimes steamy

steamy bowl of clams and shit

steamy bowl of clam!?!?!?!?

That Taylor Swift reaction clip is sooo good. lol.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1437253.1377534957!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/177883466.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1437256.1377534966!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/177927903.jpg

ok yes yr dad is mad now

that bear is high as hell yall!!!

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1437021.1377523800!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/177675131.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1437017.1377523769!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/2013-mtv-video-music-awards-show.jpg

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xp - she even sticks out her tongue at boxes of batteries.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1437023.1377523810!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/2013-mtv-video-music-awards-show.jpg

I expected Taylor Swift to do a full on spit take when she takes a sip of water in that reaction clip.

backstage dude is all 'really, yr still doing that'

i love that last one so much.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1437014.1377523749!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/2013-mtv-video-music-awards-show.jpg

she seems so psyched to be acting like this

Also new thread idea "Can We Be Shown Pics of Miley Cyrus With Her Mouth Closed?"

James Van Der Beek appeared to be disgusted by what MTV allowed on air during Cyrus’ performance, referring to her lewd display with a foam finger.

taylor reaction is great

robin thicke has the biggest song of the year and he cant even sing w/o some lil weirdo all over the place smh

Actress Brooke Sheilds, who made several appearances as Cyrus' mother on "Hannah Montana," spoke to the "Today" show Monday morning about her eyebrow-raising display.
"I was Hannah Montana's mother. I do not approve," Sheilds said. "Where did I go wrong? I just want to know who's advising her, and why it's necessary?

lol

when taylor shakes her head and starts applauding

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/E737CC3E63983593069448445952_1e1af2ac411.3.1_VnoDJRR0YBQ..2pKeeqfpRC5BCHE3.qxEB5YtToaxNvXjuEevz5Wd2GeyumF6YuY.mp4?versionId=0VAemZgf_dNWZ01YQsAfovh0takhp0W3

'i fake-raised her better than this'

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/E737CC3E63983593069448445952_1e1af2ac411.3.1_VnoDJRR0YBQ..2pKeeqfpRC5BCHE3.qxEB5YtToaxNvXjuEevz5Wd2GeyumF6YuY.mp4?versionId=0VAemZgf_dNWZ01YQsAfovh0takhp0W3

I didn't even know they still made those shoes.

hahah lol that vine

that vine thing is funny. but i'll stop now.

All I can think when I look at these pictures is "Put your tongue back in your mouth!" It's so gross and dumb. Just stop it!

chut it miley

is it the new jersey shore pucker face? is it like a thing with young people?

So I haven't watched this with the sound on or even the whole thing, just seen the gifs & pics & c, but so there is something insanely gleeful and loony about all the dumb faces she's making & her dancing that's actually kind of selling the performance to me. Usually these pop star award show pieces are so super-serious (even then they are ostensibly trying to be fun) she comes off less like a constructed pop star and more like a legit bonkers tennager/twentysomething. I guess I'm applauding that? Sure, why not.

whoever pointed out upthread that she looks like todd mcfarlane's Venom otm

Seriously I turn into an old lady. I want to swat her with a wooden spoon. xp

It'th thtuck

That bikini she's wearing has the same kind of colour and texture as a prosthetic limb or hearing aid or something.

is it the new jersey shore pucker face?

Don't blame this shit on Jersey, dude.

I feel like there was something about this that was sort of like a mistranslated Die Antwoord video. Like the producer's intern was really into Die Antwoord and showed it to her or something.

eight model play otm re hearing aid bikini...it's creepy

Directed by the Ghost of Charles Ludlam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_the_Ridiculous

"The Theatre of the Ridiculous" made a break with the dominant trends in theatre of naturalistic acting and realistic settings. It employed a very broad acting style, often with surrealistic stage settings and props, frequently making a conscious effort at being shocking or disturbing. "Ridiculous" theatre brought some elements of queer/camp performance to avant-garde theater. Cross-gender casting was common, with players often recruited from non-professional sources, such as drag queens or other "street stars".[3]

ANDREA THOMPSON45 minutes ago
That was just plain old nasty!! She should have more pride in herself than to go on stage and act worse than burlesque dancer! Strippers with bullet holes scars have more pride!!

I also want to tell her to stay away from that skeevy Robin Thicke.

Those are pretty good general rules of life:
1. Keep your tongue in your mouth.
2. Stay away form Robin Thicke.

I would be pretty proud of bullet hole scars tbh

robin thicke sounded like he was having trouble finding the right key

Does she have a contract she's trying to get out of or something?

Like, does she keep a spray bottle of water handy so she can mist her tongue when she comes off stage to keep it from drying out?

you know shes doing this tongue thing all the time now and her friends hate her

LYDIA431 hour ago
THAT WHOLE PORN TWERK ACT WAS DISGUSTING & TOTALLY STUPID!! I THINK SHE PRETTY MUCH JUST DESTROYED HER CARREER. WILL SMITH'S DRAW DROPPED AS DID HIS YOUNG KIDS WHILE SHE WAS DOING PORN ON THE STAGE!! I WAS REALLY DISGUSTED!! I THINK THE VMA'S STINK AS A WHOLE NOW. I REMEMBER AS I KID, I'D RUN HOME TO SEE THE MUSIC AWARDS & WATCH IT WITH MY FAMILY. I CAN'T EVEN DO THAT WITH MY 13YR OLD BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT KIND OF NONSENSE THEY ARE GOING TO PULL ON THAT SHOW! THE ONLY REAL TALENT ON LAST NIGHTS SHOW WAS JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. THE REST OF THEM HORRIBLE! ALL LIP SYNCHING WHICH BTW WAS SOO OFF YOU COULD CLEARLY TELL IT WAS LIP SYNCHING AS WITH LADY GAGA (what was the purpose of that stupid costume).. JUST DISGUSTED, DISGUSTED, DISGUSTED!

they should make miley window dolls, like those garfield cats, except you stick her to the inside of your car window with her face

remember when we all ran home to watch the vma's

YELLOWMELLOW2 hours ago
Robin you should fire your arranger or whomever decided that you should be staged with Miley. You should have said no to it. Your fans are more sophisticated than this. Yes, you have a hot dance song out but this was a train wreck. Do not join in with this "little girl" trying to sustain her career by any means necessary. Pedo does not look good on you. Who's idea was this. Aren't you married with a child? All money is not good money. Sustain your reputation.

i didn't run home but i did tape the VMAs onto vhs tapes when they were on. history and all that.

some people can pull of pedo, but not you robin

leave pedo to the pro's robin

quality american poetry here

robin the cradle

whoever pointed out upthread that she looks like todd mcfarlane's Venom otm

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 26 August 2013 21:21 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

eddie brockovich

Can't wait for Vigilant Citizen to post a twelve page analysis of all the supposed Illuminati references in this.

remember when we all ran home to watch the vma's

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl) wrote this at 2013-08-26 20:31:54.949

All like, what was with Howard Stern and that Fartman thing? He's gonna ruin his career!

WILL SMITH'S DRAW DROPPED AS DID HIS YOUNG KIDS WHILE SHE WAS DOING PORN ON THE STAGE!! I WAS REALLY DISGUSTED!!

this does not read in the manner that the author intended, I'm guessing

either way it was pretty gross

oh this reminds me, is it worth checking out Gaga's performance?

those comments are from the new york daily news site. SOOOOO much "SHE WAS WORSE THAN A PROSTITUTE!!!!" comments. makes me wonder if people know what a prostitute does for a living. lotsa burn the witch comments in general. people seriously pissed. and mean.

did laugh at the one that said she looked like "JUSTINE BIEBER IN A GAGA BIKINI" though.

I really liked Gaga's performance. Surreal opening outfit, giving the camera crazy eyes half the performance, multiple on-stage costume and wig changes, Fosse dancers in black leotards. It made me a little less ambivalent about the song.

Switch to lowercase for "what was the point of that stupid costume" genius

Gaga's performance was probably the best of the night just for gumption and hoofing

Gaga directed by Einstein on the Beach et al director Robert Wilson.

full on belly laugh: https://twitter.com/WhiteFeminist/status/372090378683310080

this Twitter account is amazing, actually

robin the cradle

― crüt, Monday, August 26, 2013 4:34 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

nice

I want to know what Kanye's perspective is on this cartoon bear thing

kind of obvious, but that's sort of why it works:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/let-me-explain-why-miley-cyrus-vma-performance-was,33632/

lol cool feed dan

also, of the people i follow, @whitefeminist has the followers: you, girl unit, and spencer ackerman #wayweird

lol

loool

TOMS ‏@TOMS 24 Aug
"The purpose of our lives is to be happy." -Dalai Lama
Retweeted by White Feminist

hah

should maybe jump over to a Twitter thread but the further I go back on that Twitter account, the more I lol

Wow, that was awful

transcendantly awful

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/ScreenShot2013-08-26at24415PM_zps5229e1d7.png

haha

full on belly laugh: https://twitter.com/WhiteFeminist/status/372090378683310080

this Twitter account is amazing, actually

― (what was the purpose of that stupid costume) (DJP)

Really? For every zinger there's 3 'said no one ever''s

Sarah Beattie ‏@nachosarah 3h

aww miley does your dad love you yet

i think the whole "daddy issue" speculation is sort of gross, sorry. almost as creepy as the stuffed bears in miley's stage performance.

actually just saw her performance. i know it's supposed to be bold/provocative/etc., but mostly just seemed so awkward.

the best part is how aesthetically horrible it is imo

it's definitely the most striking part. i agree with daniel, esq that miley has an incredibly forced, awkward presence on the stage and screen. it's weird to me that she is such a big star.

i'm coming around to the song though, which has a sort of dark glamor to it

lol treeship

jfc

i think the whole "daddy issue" speculation is sort of gross, sorry. almost as creepy as the stuffed bears in miley's stage performance.

― Treeship, Monday, August 26, 2013 10:59 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Super gross. There's also this underlying assumption that fathers retain ownership over their adult daughters' sexuality, which is super duper gross.

always found this article really sad (also hilarious) http://www.gq.com/entertainment/celebrities/201103/billy-ray-cyrus-mr-hannah-montana-miley

He has a favorite chair at the circular wooden table in the modest kitchen of his Tennessee mansion where he spends much of his time, and he prefers it here with the lights out. When I first arrive he makes me a cup of tea in the microwave, and we face each other as people generally do, fully illuminated, but after a while he asks me whether I'd mind. He flicks a switch behind him, and sinks into shadow.

people really just love the "every stripper or porn star or outwardly sexual woman of any kind has daddy issues" jokes, if the dad is famous you can bet they'll double down.

but tbf this chick released a single that is almost literally scream "I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME" so it's hard not to at the very least assume the usual child star rebellion narratives.

being a disney/nickelodeon child-star seems to do a number of a lot of these actors.

leave britney alone etc

i don't know if "sexiness" is the main thing miley is going for here anyway.

yeah, tbf as a friend of mine mentioned, her actual parents are probably pretty down far the list of people who have acted as parental figures in her life

she has pretty well documented daddy issues fwiw, is in a current fued w her father and uses the twitter handle miley ray cyrus

yeah, wft is it with her and that tongue?

http://media.avclub.com/images/436/436921/16x9/627.jpg?6217

http://www.chicagonow.com/so-you-have-a-girlfriend/files/2013/08/miley-cyrus-2013-vma-tongue-out-1024x573.jpg

shes trying to lick her dad but he... is not there

she reminds of a giraffe.

"A 20 year old girl whose parents are currently in couples therapy was spotted grinding at a social event, that and sports, after the weather"

Just how much of Miley's post-Hannah Montana career is generated by stunts like this, "controversial" videos and the like? I've never met a fan of hers among the smattering of youngish girls (who all seem to be more about Ed Sheeran) and younger-than-me gay guys that I know, and she certainly has nothing like the following that Gaga has, nor the sales figures that Katy Perry has, nor the following or the sales figures that Taylor Swift has. It seems like everyone minus the buying public is trying really hard to make her happen.

maybe she's a Danny Brown fan

http://www.bbebookingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/how-to-book-danny-brown.jpg
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http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2012/4/2/1333378370923/Danny-Brown-008.jpg
http://www.clashmusic.com/sites/default/files/styles/section_feature/public/field/image/Danny%20Brown_0.jpeg

http://albums.mouseplanet.com/MPPromotional/national_treasure2.jpg

uses the twitter handle miley ray cyrus

Cyrus has paid her grandfather several tributes since his death in 2006, including eventually changing her middle name to "Ray".[3]

shes trying to lick her dad but he... is not there

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 00:56 (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

was hoping there'd be more misogyny and racism in the reviews of this performance tbh

you're not on Facebook are you

sleepingsignal
Posted: August 27, 2013, 12:39:38 AM
uses the twitter handle miley ray cyrus

Cyrus has paid her grandfather several tributes since his death in 2006, including eventually changing her middle name to "Ray".[3]

miley would use that excuse shes so messed up

post racial/gender america http://m.mtv.com/blogs/style_post.rbml?id=2013/08/25/grimes-2-chainz-versace-2013-vmas/&weburl=http%3a%2f%2fstyle.mtv.com%2f2013%2f08%2f25%2fgrimes-2-chainz-versace-2013-vmas%2f&alt=http%3a%2f%2fm.mtv.com%2fblogs%2fstyle.rbml&cid=300

one of them is canadian, nothing to see here

I watched almost all those red carpet videos earlier today. Recommend the Busta Rhymes/Travis Scott/Lil Kim ones

p sure canada is technically part of america

the 51st state

big ass state

At first I thought she was trying to clean herself like a cat, but then it started to look like someone told her "sticking out your tongue is sexy," and she was all, sure, I'll give it a shot, like this? And everyone was all, um, yeah, close enough, Miley.

Even Robin Thicke looked a little embarrassed, like one of those old rockers who is paired with some upstart (Dylan and Mumford, or whomever) and the old guy looks at the young guy with this "who the fuck are these people?" sideways glance.

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Bob_Dylan_soy_bomb.jpg?ggnoads

"Why does this guy keep sticking his tongue out at me and shaking his ass?"

Miley meets a venture capitalist dude's daughter backstage for her birthday last night, via Gawker. The tongue makes an appearance.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18y8mr80gehazpng/original.png

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/article-1347621919258-14fe16d9000005dc-795630_465x569.jpg

she's just not cool

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/9e/90_Awesome_Anteater_Tongue.jpg

http://desperateexes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gene-simmons.jpeg

Wait, no seriously what the fuck is up with her?
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/i8_8Lac8PtvV99pJ_y_1sg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://globalfinance.zenfs.com/en_us/Finance/US_AFTP_SILICONALLEY_H_LIVE/miley-cyrus-wiz-khalifa-funny-face-sticking-tongue-out.png

http://stubbornthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/o-miley-cyrus-tongue-570-2.jpg?w=560&h=608

http://www.indiaphoto.org/usa/nyc/streetlife/dog_hot_tongue.jpg

you know it might actually be a tic or a twitch. maybe.

http://theinterrobang.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Miley_Cyrus_Sticking_Out_Her_Tongue_Wallpaper_JxHy.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/mottacjessica/SPtyMS3gRSI/AAAAAAAAG2s/pobRqXP7N0g/s800/miley-cyrus-tongue-1.jpg

http://msnlatino.telemundo.com/_cache/images/fotos/2011-10/miley-cyrus-tongue-21_131774695678___484x363.jpg

guys, we are obviously not very big cyrus fans because obviously this has been her fuckin deal the whole time.

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=10011200

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oqs5j5nVCIA/SwFfRJxHmWI/AAAAAAAAOJE/ps6bbJ_O3C0/miley%20cyrus%20bad%20pics.JPG

i'm pretty much as horrible as the next guy and yet somehow its the opposite of a turn on.

i think it might actually be involuntary. like a nervous tic.

she's under a lot of pressure.

the tongue thing is the only truly awesome part of this scenario imo

especially if she keeps doing it in all her photos for the rest of her life

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/woman-sticking-out-tongue.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3p1SgIw.png

maybe she just luvs the Stones man

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LxB5bkk8QeU/TMnbOO1UltI/AAAAAAAAIQA/_-vOI2ZC2S0/s1600/RollingStonesTongueLogo.jpg

idk the tongue doesn't really bother me

She may have physics on her mind.

http://www.bubblews.com/assets/images/news/1499955789_1366079217.jpg

Why do kids stick their tongues out at the camera? It's a way to short-circuit the whole observed/observer dynamic. Armchair psychiatry and all, but for someone who's been in front of the camera half her life, maybe it's just a natural reflex.

http://cre8ive-technol0gies.com/FriendsBlog/wp-content/uploads/tongue-1.jpghttp://cre8ive-technol0gies.com/FriendsBlog/wp-content/uploads/tongue-1.jpghttp://cre8ive-technol0gies.com/FriendsBlog/wp-content/uploads/tongue-1.jpghttp://cre8ive-technol0gies.com/FriendsBlog/wp-content/uploads/tongue-1.jpghttp://cre8ive-technol0gies.com/FriendsBlog/wp-content/uploads/tongue-1.jpghttp://cre8ive-technol0gies.com/FriendsBlog/wp-content/uploads/tongue-1.jpg

lmao dayo

sometimes i do forget how inherently goofy she is. i would watch that show with kids - cyrus, sad to say has moved on to zack and cody - and she was genuinely funny. and really goofy. like punch-drunk hee-haw at times and it worked. she was good at it.

scott I agree! she is legit good at awkward physical comedy, like sandra bullock or someone idk. i used watch hannah montana with my niece & i always dug how funny she was

The tongue used to stick out straight, but now it flops out to the left. Maybe she injured it?

AVClub:

Wondering aloud what happened to that nice girl they used to hire to babysit, Americans were shocked to see 20-year-old pop star Miley Cyrus strip to her underwear and gyrate suggestively at last night’s MTV Video Music Awards, the annual celebration commemorating the year’s best efforts at distinguishing nearly indiscernible pop music with empty visual spectacle. Surprising all who believed she was probably off at college and maybe studying nursing, and who haven't looked at the Internet in the past year or so, Cyrus took the stage surrounded by giant teddy bears and wearing a furry, teddy bear-emblazoned one-piece—signifiers of childhood innocence she symbolically stripped away by literally stripping, leaving only the flesh-colored underwear that grown women wear, because they are proud of the naked bodies they intend to use for sex.

Imitating how those grown women behave when they are pursuing said grown-woman sex, Cyrus then began grinding on everything in sight, including Beetlejuice-suit-clad singer Robin Thicke, an adult male to whom Cyrus presented her posterior in a way that could be read as invitation for intercourse. Cyrus also stroked her crotch with a giant foam finger, in a manner that evoked masturbation, and being the No. 1 fan of it. Furthermore, she “twerked”—a dance move that involves jerking the pelvis in a manner she definitely didn’t learn at cotillion—and dangled her tongue from the side of her mouth as a sign of rebellion, as well as possible dehydration from having so much sex.

Cyrus also sang a song about partying and doing whatever she wants, irrespective of approval.

Reaction was swift, as other, slightly older adults paused from maintaining their social standings and making potato salad for the church picnic to express dismay that a young female pop star would do something so scandalous for attention, on a show where young female pop stars have historically done something scandalous for attention. “I wouldn't make a joke of it, actually,” Morning Joe’s Mika Brzezinski said while scolding her co-hosts and, by extension, everyone everywhere who might regard this as insignificant. “That was really, really disturbing. That young lady, who is 20, is obviously deeply troubled, deeply disturbed, clearly has confidence issues, probably an eating disorder, and I don't think anybody should have put her onstage. That was disgusting and embarrassing.”

While Cyrus has yet to respond to such criticisms, presumably she doesn’t care, because she’s not a little girl anymore. She is, in fact, a grown sexy person who parties and does whatever she wants, and Brzezinski is so not her mom.

In related news, a bunch of people who make nearly indiscernible pop music primarily for teenagers won awards for that, including Justin Timberlake, Selena Gomez, One Direction, and Macklemore & Ryan Lewis.
Before things devolved into such scandalous flouting of decorum, Lady Gaga opened the ceremony with the traditional showing of her butt.

(xpost) I did hear something about her and Tommy John surgery today.

Lady Gaga opened the ceremony with the traditional showing of her butt.

This is like a line from golden-era Simpsons.

"Cyrus also stroked her crotch with a giant foam finger, in a manner that evoked masturbation, and being the No. 1 fan of it."

oh man this made me laugh. that is pretty brilliant.

the onion still has good writers. they are so good at it.

I'm pretty sure av club is the manifestation of babylon

miley's VMA performance was like one of those soviet bloc eurovision acts trying to do a US pop thing but only kinda sorta getting it right. something lost in translation but so what BEARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3RwVOSpcVo

i watched this today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ_SNlWrY54

maybe she's pop music's andy kaufman. or maybe she's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI4PdwEHkCI

lol huff post http://twitter.com/nostrich/status/372330898491863041/photo/1

Watching this, it looks like Thicke didn't expect her to actually touch his crotch with the foam hand. He's does his usual cold-precise singing for a bar or two, and then that seems to throw him off.

a pity Brooklyn was soiled by this pubescent shit

(keep it in Hollywood where it belongs)

yeah, no ironic racism in brooklyn, heaven forbid

congratulations to miley for inspiring my father to send me an email with a link to a "redstate" article bemoaning the loss of morals and the consequent decline of the economy sure to transpire from this miley cyrus performance

tbh, when I watched it I kept waiting for what was making people mad. I was all, yeah, bikini, check, sticking out her tongue, check, gyrating, check, we must be getting to the controversial bit. When it finished I figured, huh, people must be talking about it because it was so bad, and then I realized that all the stuff I saw that was totally not surprising was the issue.

https://www.britney.com/sites/bspears/files/britney-spears-with-snake.jpg

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xp i thought the reason people were scandalized by this performance was because it was racist

JiC did you miss this part http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/8/25/21/anigif_enhanced-buzz-4786-1377481549-22.gif

conservative slut-shaming types are up in arms about the outfit and the thrusting. second wave of (more pertinent) blog criticism relates to the relegation of WOC to "hypersexualised other", which is a similar response to that prompted by the "We Can't Stop" video clip.

mostly people are talking abt how bad and strange it was is my impression, it doesnt even have unusually high slut levels or anything

im sure there are outraged republicans piling on, but def it made the news for awfulness

Huh, I thought the main issue was that it was ridiculous and kind of crap. It actually seems pretty unexceptional in other regards.

2xpost what lagoon said

robin thicke has the biggest song of the year and he cant even sing w/o some lil weirdo all over the place smh

― lag∞n, Monday, August 26, 2013 4:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is one of the worst parts for me. "Blurred Lines" is not really an 'anyone can sing this' kind of song, they should've heard Miley try to sing it in rehearsal and been like hmmm yeah maybe it doesn't need to be a duet.

If you walk around with your tongue permanently flopping out, eventually you're going to accidentally brush against a big butt or two.

was the performance really that "ridiculous and kind of crap" though? i mean like, ignoring the whole "racist undertones" stuff. to me it didn't seem like she was out of tune (she sure sang better than drake!), and surely there are oodles of popstars who've used goofy and / or sexually-OTT dance moves in performances.

she just seems so out of her lane

xpost interestingly with miley & "blurred lines" they got her to sing most of the lines that jezabel-types had problems with

I think I'm usually pretty sensitive to racism but this didn't strike me as particularly racist tbh.

this is the article that's been posted a few times on my FB today http://groupthink.jezebel.com/solidarity-is-for-miley-cyrus-1203666732

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPMLTmpPpY

on my facebook everyone's been doing their particular part like it's ww2: the social justice kids and music critics post new articles every couple hours about the racism while the normals call her a slut. it's heartening to see we can all pull together for something when necessary.

miley spanking that dancer's ass was sort of jaw-droppingly racist imo

i don't get how her performance was any MORE sexualised than what's been standard for female pop stars for years now - i mean it is definitely a conversation that needs to be had, why virtually every female performer has to end up in bra and pants while virtually every male performer remains fully covered up, but i don't think miley was particularly notable in that regard.

lol xp unity

that second britney pic josh posted, not the one with the snake, is the one that mattered to 12-year-old difficult listening hour

i said this way upthread w/r/t the video vs. "I'm A Slave 4 U" but it's crazy that despite how not-new-at-all this Miley thing is in some ways, it all manages to make Britney seem like she had so much POISE and DIGNITY back in the day by comparison

regardless of what you make of the racial thinkpieces out there rn, there is something troubling about the whole arc: miley going on record as wanting a 'black' sound, getting a song that rihanna passed up on, making a hit out of it, filming a music vid of her barely approximating 'twerking,' then casting all black women to be her backup dancers at the VMA and only interacting with them via touching a butt

brit was good at what she did, she was convincing, miley just seems like shes been watching too much youtubes

like, Justin has made a lot of gestures towards black music and black sexuality that have at times led to facepalm moments, but the fact that he's managed it without ever tipping into that territory Miley eagerly ran into kinda underlines why he was the one with a huge 20-minute career tribute the same night.

i said this way upthread w/r/t the video vs. "I'm A Slave 4 U" but it's crazy that despite how not-new-at-all this Miley thing is in some ways, it all manages to make Britney seem like she had so much POISE and DIGNITY back in the day by comparison

well for one thing, Britney could actually dance; her facility of movement sold the transformation much better than Miley's "stick out yr tongue and then do whatever you think twerking is" (thank you based scott) moves

the problem isn't that she's taking influences from black music, i mean who isn't, it's that she's doing it in a completely tone deaf way that screams 'cultural tourist' at best

hasnt twerking been around forever like there was that ying yang twins song, why is it such a thing all the sudden

Beyonce/Destiny's Child namechecked it years ago as well

they should've heard Miley try to sing it in rehearsal and been like hmmm yeah maybe it doesn't need to be a duet.

― some dude, Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:13 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you don't think there wasn't a lot of giggling in the control room? seems like gunning for maximum shitshow is the whole MO here

yeah but i'm assuming even Thicke coulda been like "yeah how about i do the verses and you just sing backup on the chorus parts"

xp: and I think it's suddenly a "thing" because the kids who were twerking to the bridge of "Jumpin' Jumpin'" are now in entry- to mid-level media jobs

hasnt twerking been around forever like there was that ying yang twins song, why is it such a thing all the sudden

see also "trap", "ratchet" - pretty old slang words that have been around forever suddenly blowing up into these HUGE THINGS for no reason at all

i guess thats how it goes

*twerks furiously*

I'm twrrking as I write this

there was the saddest post on a 'pop blog' a while back about the history of the phrase "turnt up"

"Miley / was a hero to most.."

I only watched it once and the video wasn't really that great tbh. Maybe I should watch again.

i was twerking when i wrote this, forgive me if it goes astray.

i dunno if non-australians have heard of clive palmer, but he's a dude who wants to (literally!) rebuild the titanic, and is a candidate in a federal election here in ~2 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuVgMLNhFuc

good god

no australia why

one still frame is plenty

one picture twerks a thousand words

dying

no literally, I am dying, I think I ruptured something

farewell my friends

one picture is worth a thousand twerks

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13967-1377481565-19_0.gif

So what's the deal w the tongue does anyone know? Is it code for drugs or something?

yes

Sorry seems to be the hardest twerk.

every time Miley Cyrus sticks her tongue out, an angel pops a molly

she french kisses ghosts

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More like Miley Krampus

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