"So, Mr. Williamson, what have you done in order to find gainful employment since your last signing-on date?"
"FUCK ALL. I sat around the house wanking."
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 27 February 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
Love these guys.
― emil.y, Thursday, 27 February 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah theyre amazing
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 27 February 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link
right down the righteous gonzo line between prophets and nobheads imo but until we fall out i am loving this
― The Buzzing of Summer Tweets (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 February 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
"if you like feedback go and work for the council"
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 February 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link
I know it's maybe pointless but can somebody highlight what they find good about this?
They've been all over my FB feed for months but when I dip into it and I hear some horrible guy mithering about hard guys on his estate or similar.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 27 February 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Actually, never mind, I'm listening again and it's obviously not for me.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 27 February 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-JClH7DZ0
^ i love this one
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 27 February 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
I listened to these cunts for three weeks straight.Travelled to see them in Nottingham recently . It was a sell out.Capacity 80.Love the way the musician just stands there with a shit eating grin , waving his e - cig, whilst Williamson spits out the rage
Job seeker, can of strongbowim a messDesperately clutching onto a leaflet on depressiongiven to me by the NHS
and some of it's hilarious.
Punk fucking rock from a pair of farmers who've gotta be in their 40s
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
wait so is this a middle aged art thing or not? i dont understand the english
― adam, Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link
Nah it's about living in England - you probably wouldn't understand if you don'tA more clued up, yank friend of mine loved it , saying he hadn't heard something 'so UK' for a long while
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
so like the streets, or all the urchins singing in oliver?
― adam, Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
my wife doesn't understand the dialogue in withnail & i, is that a similar thing
― adam, Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
stop being a twat
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
I get prime-period Fall vibes off of this? very intrigued but it is largely incomprehensible, not that that's an issue for me
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
the guy really knows how to swear, I respect that, and I also love the silent bob type drinking beside him who I assume presses the buttons
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah it is very Fall-esque - the ranting, the lurching basslines....
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link
A cockney John Cooper Clarke backed by Steve Hanley? It's great
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
I have described these guys as a cross between John Cooper Clarke and MC Pitman, hahaha. Doesn't really capture what's good about them, though.
― emil.y, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link
Love the way the musician just stands there with a shit eating grin
assuming the gig I saw the other day was representative, all dude does onstage is press play on the backing tracks. this made me like it all the more
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:30 (ten years ago) link
^^^^
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link
wow these guys have six albums!
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
john cooper clarke maybe, cockney definitely not! xps to dr x
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Doing 30 in a 40Playing solo Johnny MarrWho gives a fuck about yesterdays heroesWho seem to think that they are still today's heroesIts not a pyramidYou're not a fucking Pharaoh
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
i was gonna do a "he's no MC Pitman" quibble earlier lol
― The Buzzing of Summer Tweets (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 February 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
The three tracks I've heard off the next album have no swearing. Fucking sell outs!
― mike t-diva, Friday, 28 February 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
(I adore them. Especially live - seen them many times.)
― mike t-diva, Friday, 28 February 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link
A more clued up, yank friend of mine loved it , saying he hadn't heard something 'so UK' for a long while
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:21 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's between this and Kunt & The Gang tbh
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Friday, 28 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
Just felt like this thread needed some DJ Smile to show what a thin margin it is between prophet/nobhead. Not dissing S'ford Mods like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7WdvzITaLk
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 28 February 2014 00:57 (ten years ago) link
had forgotten about "kick the little face/in the place", rhyming is a harsh master
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:23 (ten years ago) link
what is a "jampandy"?
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:24 (ten years ago) link
I am too frightened to click the link. Is this some Hedluv + Passman type shenanigans?
― Bipolar Sumner (Branwell Bell), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:35 (ten years ago) link
Curiously, they play a lot of gigs in continental Europe - there's even a 12-date tour of Germany/Switzerland in May - so something about their regionalism must translate.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:41 (ten years ago) link
I listened to these guys last year when they were reviewed in the wire, then forgot about them. Enjoyable enough. Lol they would have 6 albums wouldn't they
― The Edge - why is he so bald and hatted? (wins), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:50 (ten years ago) link
Also, do be a twat!
― The Edge - why is he so bald and hatted? (wins), Friday, 28 February 2014 10:51 (ten years ago) link
Their songs would make a pretty good late night sketch show, lots of good visual character stuff with the deadpan humour
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:09 (ten years ago) link
They recently released four 7" singles on four different labels, more or less simultaneously - newly collected together here: http://sleafordmods.bandcamp.com/album/singles-collection
― mike t-diva, Friday, 28 February 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link
― mike t-diva, Friday, February 28, 2014 10:41 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it's curious isn't it. maybe a kind of bitter thirtysomething crypto-noisedude version of French teenagers who worship The Libertines idk
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:22 (ten years ago) link
I can see why they'd appeal in northern Germany and the older industrialised parts, I mean they do sound like some ranty Dutch post-punk thing at times.
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:36 (ten years ago) link
Saw them last year with no idea what to expect. Enjoyed it fine, bought the album expecting to play it only a couple of times and couldn't stop listening to it. Found the guy at the back (who touched the laptop a grand total of TWICE) to be the focus of attention as basically ge just nodded his head and swigged from his can, smiling sometimes when it got to a bit he remembered he liked.
Pitman and The Fall are I guess the touchstones, but I've been describing them to other people as if The Streets were a bitter middle aged bloke from the North who grew up with post punk.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:40 (ten years ago) link
I also love how inept that bit of drum programming is on Urine Mate.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 11:41 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they do credit early Streets as an influence - Wu-Tang too, and it was Jason who got me into Roc Marciano - but they claim not to have heard much Fall or John Cooper Clarke, despite the constant comparisons.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 28 February 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link
i absolutely hear Streets in their, just more radge
― I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 February 2014 12:38 (ten years ago) link
'Double Diamond' is the major Skinner-y one iirc. don't specifically get that vibe from much else of theirs
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 February 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link
his flow has rhythmic similarities to Skinner sometimes i think, but that and the use of everyday phrases/observations that rarely make it into pop music are the only notable connections
― I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 February 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah I can see the Streets thing
this was one of the first things I noticed and I love it as well
― sleeve, Friday, 28 February 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link
Earl Brutus anyone?
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
No thanks, I've just eaten.
― Tim, Friday, 28 February 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
Pitman and The Fall are I guess the touchstones, but I've been describing them to other people as if The Streets were a bitter middle aged bloke from the North who grew up with post punk.― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, February 28, 2014 6:40 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, February 28, 2014 6:40 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My first thought was Craig Finn.
― how's life, Friday, 28 February 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
I can see that actually.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S),
yup.
plus ... kid acne ..
― mark e, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
In the Grampsy household we have given them a Grampsy Award: British lyricists currently active.
― Grampsy, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
kinda like a tuff guy john cooper clark fronting mclusky
― sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link
oops i'm like the 10th person to say JCC
― sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
i'm kinda into this
― sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 February 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
Their most recent single is on Matador! (As part of their subscription singles club). It's great.
― Walter Galt, Sunday, 2 March 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Earl Brutus is absolutely spot the fuck on.A thought already shared in my humdrum world
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 2 March 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah - the other (recent) thing it conjures is that Scroobious Pip tune that kind of crossed over a few years ago.
re: Craig Finn, he actually did a bunch of electronic tracks as "The Brokerdealer" after Lifter Puller:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ5KRlII5Io
― Walter Galt, Monday, 3 March 2014 10:57 (ten years ago) link
New video: Tied Up In Nottz, from the forthcoming album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=CFFWF1DnZKM
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link
big up nobby's nuts
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link
In the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/mar/06/eagulls-girl-band-evil-blizzard-sleaford-mods-bring-the-noise
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Evil Blizzard are great too.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
haha was just reading that article....Girl Band are quite good actually. their new single is terrific. and theyre from Dublin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqxe3NZKYL0
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
before I read the actual article can I just say that I hate shit like
For years, British guitar bands have been styling themselves to be as smooth, bland and likable as possible. But finally a new wave of new rage is starting to shake things up
so fucking much. you could have written the exact same thing at any given time in the last ~15 years and it would be equally valid
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link
"A lot of people thought I was on drugs," Mitchell sniffles.
lol it's funny because someone who takes drugs might sniffle as a result of their habit. the seed has been planted in my mind!
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
p impressive to name three S Mods titles one after the other and get them ALL wrong
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
calling yourself Girl Band is possibly the single fastest way to earn my hatred. nonetheless I'm gonna give this 1x listen
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
got a new dn from the comments so it's not all bad
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
oh for fucking out loud this is just fucking absolute trash, hateful. michael b what the hell
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure this is a quote from the Johnny Kidd & the Pirates press release.
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
it's almost like Mclusky didn't do this 100x better ten years ago
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
anyway. sleaford mods are a bit different, thankfully
how is sleaford mods a "guitar band"?
― gimme the lute (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
I mean it's all just window dressing really but idk would it be that bad or click-evaporating to say something to the effect of, 'here are some fairly new noisy non-mnstrm UK bands who have records out about now who we thought we'd share with you'? what is the actual purpose of this historically false oppositional thing
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link
good question! xp
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
Tied Up In Nottz is great, in fact :)
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Homesick.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
ftr I think articles like this in papers like this are basically good, lame conceits notwithstanding, and accepts why these bands have to be Trojan horse'd in while the bulk of space is given over to music people actually want to read about
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
what am I missing with Girl Band that is not completely loathsome btw
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
Is 'guitar band' just in the standfirst? It looks like a lazy sub's work.
Anyway, thank you this thread, Sleaford Mods are my favourite new band, last two albums over and over, &
yes they push my E Mids buttons.
otoh I was being enthusiastic about them the other night but my fiancee on hearing them said 'They sound exactly like every other band you like. Are they the Fall?' maybe this marriage is a mistake.
― woof, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
if you're just listening to the records bass guitar is a fairly prominent ingredient of like every SM song. granted it sort of makes a mockery of the idea of 'guitar band' but I can live with that tbh
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:08 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:21 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this seems exactly to appeal to foreigners who buy into the aggresively parochial / prole art threat wing of uk eighties nineties indie
would usually expect to hate anything described as 'punk fucking rock' but even so, this isn't good
there is an aesthetics of resistance here though exemplified by the person in the trackies with the can of spesh or supermarket vodka lingering in the background, the sort of performative grottiness and debased nihilism that limns its way through most of the other culture heroes namechecked itt, though not as tryhard-commonplace as this lot
shouty bloke reminds me a bit of mid 00s fall copyists prinzhorn dance school who i will sort of rep for
this seems to be getting warm notices due to the bleeding out of the whitebread male provincial fucked off sensibility in current uk pop
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
surprised at the hate, imago. there's something fall-esque about them that i thought you would approve of.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Nah, it's all far, far, far too tightly-controlled and formulaic - it's yer typical disco-indie with a slightly noisier hook. A sheep in wolf's clothing. Fall comparison faintly ridiculous (to these ears at any rate)
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Girl Band is possibly the single fastest way to earn my hatred
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh for fucking out loud this is just fucking absolute trash, hateful.
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
the problem with 'fall-esque' is that if it isn't a shorthand for the early dragnet-hex clackety fall sound it's usually referring to the least interesting aspects of the fall, none of the copyists get or reinvisage the unhomely or obssesive qualities*, they merely facsimilie the threat but more in the to-women-and-children sense than the vindictive intelligence
thinking of uhm... k-punk's writing on MES here
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah The Fall is all about shambling, liminal reception of horror - sheer horror, the horror of experience - MES in perpetual fear, yet somehow able to cackle about it, sublimate his fear into our fear through demonic, unsteady incantation - through a sort of displacement process that can only be obtained through fractures in art
there are no fractures in this music I hear
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Sleaford Mods are not even remotely in the same ballpark as The Fall, as I say - they're like, if anything, a stripped-down, roided-up My Computer :D
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
xpost to nakh - yeah, that's part of it, but put in a way i'm gnawing slightly awkwardly at. (tho 'least interesting aspects of The Fall' is a curiously interesting set).
really like sleaford mods - p much since i heard them cos of the EOY list have just have ''old on 'old on' in my head since christmas. nv otm right down the righteous gonzo line between prophets and nobheads imo but until we fall out i am loving this
― Fizzles, Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
thank you thread people.
i have kept forgetting.
but cos of this thread reminder, i have now dug out my earl brutus singles and albums collection.
happy daze.
― mark e, Friday, 7 March 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
tried a few more sleaford tracks in downgraded 240p youtube trebly laptop speaker glory and i would probably have rated some of this when i was younger
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Earl Brutus the pomo deconstructed Europeanised somewhat perversely grandiose counterpart to this sort of social comms rock yeah mebbe
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link
I think "vindictive intelligence" is a very astute description of the The Fall. For as much as some people "tell it like it is" they are still no better than Terry & The Idiots.
― xelab, Friday, 7 March 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
I like these guys. I don't think they sound much like anyone and the lyrics are cracking.
"I hate northern soul/it's just like motown but on the dole"
― inside out trousers (dog latin), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link
see i would have liked that more before something like a....suspension of disbelief broke, same as i don't quite love afrikan boy's exquisite 'when i went to lidl' as much i used to, not claiming that i am any wiser a decade later or that it is any worse but politically the identification seems more fictive and untenable, my idiot bourgie teenage friends aren't going to shoplift in lidl any more, i'm not really any closer in spirit to norths lincs than sevastopol and the militantly reductive inverse-twee arte povera production and appellation sleaford protégée namechecks sort of surrender claims to sublimity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kBcm-ls8Y
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
south lincs...
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:07 (ten years ago) link
clean bandit for ponces
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:02 (ten years ago) link
isurrender claims to sublimity
the surrender of the claims to sublimity is part of the point/appeal tho, no? it's the 'prophetic' part of NV's earlier formula - the surly peasant, automatically suspicious of money, authority and those who like to be sold things, unseduceable must exclude art and the sublime as part of that suspicion, they do not view the pastoral, they are *in* it. that is also the problem, as you say: as a vision it becomes tiring long-term, reductive and exclusive of change - the no nonsense insolence becomes authoritarian conservatism as it gets old.
MES as a person can exemplify this, and i find the latter-day cultism surrounding him a bit nauseating. he's saved personally by his absolute devotion to art, and in The Fall the essential counterbalance to the surly indifference to pleasure ('to please is the curse, and worse') is Art, Mysticism and the sublime, to which they are open. In this respect they represent a form of satire - gnostically excoriating and revelling in the material world to reveal the spiritual sublime. (The spiritual counterweight to the surly peasant's suspicion is a credulity towards heretical gnosticism and non-conformism). Half Man Half Biscuit manage it with genuine pastoral longing and a genius for the cultural impedimenta beyond and below outside irritation at the supermarket.
But basically I'm a sucker for English nobheadism and enjoy it more or less automatically (crap dance is a golden place for this) - the addition of dirty bass and drums, and mocking guitar, just helps.
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:23 (ten years ago) link
^^ there's a point, at the height/depth of the Anabaptist's delirious approach to the deity, that the thought kicks in that the whole religious edifice is just an excuse to escape work and drink for oblivion and rut like a beast
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 07:28 (ten years ago) link
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/gamalielratsey/2014-03-07074141_zpsf8942e08.jpg
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:44 (ten years ago) link
and of courfe the reverfe holdf true
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 07:47 (ten years ago) link
yep, the oppofite applief - the morning light.
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 08:04 (ten years ago) link
more Sleaford Modland
http://www.ranterulze.net/images/drunkards.png
SM do feel a bit antiquated tho - not that I mind particularly. the JCCisms, the grubby post punk musical lumbering belie the 'mod'. after reading that excellent Ian Penman LRB article on mod, was wondering what foreign elements wd constitute contemporary mod - what would be the foreign element, fashion lodestones, the cultural frontiers. ended making up something out of a ragbag of african dance like the Lapaz Toyota video, soviet satellite states (your sevastopol comment, nakh), the angular faces and baroque lines of a wyndham lewis portrait. it wouldn't look much like Sleaford Mods other than its oppositional razor to the throat of hipster fogeyism and the frigid abnegation of scandi-porn.
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 08:24 (ten years ago) link
nakh's point about suspension of disbelief is v. on point tho - to contemplate the authenticity of the presentation is to pop the bubble immediately - hence my original caveat about "until we fall out" - but charlatanism is an acceptable angle of the English scene too as long as you keep your art project roots hid - incidentally, Earl Brutus seem to never manage this to me, they are a much archer proposition than Sleaford
― Nooye's Vagge (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 08:57 (ten years ago) link
even Chris Donald nods
― Nooye's Vagge (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link
yeah i think if you showed me the entire musical history – all failed bands etc – of these 2, or re-presented it as a spoken word project of sorts then I would be way more iffy, but for now i'm pretty infatuated.
would like to read a long history of the English 'No. Fuck off' tradition.
― woof, Friday, 7 March 2014 10:37 (ten years ago) link
Andrew Fearn (the button-pusher/head-nodder/beer-chugger/e-cig-vaper) also puts out solo stuff as extnddntwrk - this is his most recent release - http://extnddntwrk.bandcamp.com/album/hybrids
― mike t-diva, Friday, 7 March 2014 11:43 (ten years ago) link
Fearny is a good bloke, was (is?) a friend of my brother. I'm not sure what sort of 'pretence' you guys think he's up to, but... I guess you want to see them as archetypes not humans? But then surely the project is to force their humanity into yr face? We are all humans, fucked up and crawling and puking, and implicated in the shit to a vast extent.
I think it's one of the things I like about them - they are my people, but they're not. This is my town, but it's not. The people they point the finger at, often, are people like me, but it's a mutual implication, simultaneously drawn and repelled by to for the whole thing, the fucking Goose on the Square, Yates' Wine Lodge, Old Meadows, New Meadows, The Lamp, Peggers is closing down, it's always been closing down, Selectadisc is long gone (what the fuck is Selectadisc?), Sneinton, Lenton, Spice Spice Arena, the fucking repulsive 'Arts Quarter' concept, St. Ann's, the xylophone man (it was a metallophone actually), the spot by my friends' house where that boy was shot...
Sorry, where was I?
― emil.y, Friday, 7 March 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
these guys are pretty fun!i like english ppl shouting at me, always have
― gimme the lute (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 March 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
haha UMS otm
― sleeve, Friday, 7 March 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
i like emily's post. art project or not, they kind of reframe northern working class rock in a way they makes the likes of oasis look the height of pretension, and not by dumbing down either, but the sense they give you of being knee-deep in all the shit of their native culture, suckered onto the local substrate like limpets stuck to the bottom of a dirty pub ashtray. they have this great tension too between being fucked-up yet still vital, deeply bored but still awake and alert. not that any of this is exclusive to them mind you.
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
feel like the ilx response to them is prob complicated because they answer a bit too perfectly to the Real England thing (which thread is always itself a bit complicated)
― woof, Friday, 7 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
was thinking of posting them to that thread for the longest time but bottled it
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link
xpost I commissioned the Guardian article. And, yes, it was a way to shoehorn a load of bands I was interested in into one piece that would get way more play and attention than single pieces about any of them would. In fact, not sure I could have got single pieces about any of them into the paper.
But it was a direct reaction to the fact that for two or three years I'd barely heard a new "rock" band who didn't sound like gimley eyed careerists, and suddenly there seemed to be a rush of new bands who didn't sound like 6 Music airplay was the key thing on their mind. I know such bands have always been around, but for the first time in ages people outside the underground seem to be talking about them …
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 8 March 2014 09:28 (ten years ago) link
who are these overground tastemakers yr using as a hype barometer?
this thread is great, particularly good to be reacquainted with one day i went to lidl, also agree entirely w/ this bit of fizzles' -
It seems like SM's are pretty Deep Nottingham as emil.y's post attests, but on that archetypal level they feel v familiar. mb I wish they felt less familiar. "suspension of disbelief" is kind of curious in this context (identification). the problem isn't that the common ground invoked is imaginary, it's Real, observational, and necessarily specific. it's just that the Realness of the surly-peasant-totems - JSA, the A15, shoplifting in lidl, whatever - feels like a kind of empty materialism. it's not reflexive. it's a collection of v recognisable quotidian pains and symbols the same as a michael mcintyre routine. mb not fair to include the afrikan boy track, that's a one off. not familiar enough w/ the fall to confidently agree w/ fizzles that they bring a spiritual/sublime counterbalance to this but it sounds plausible.
― ogmor, Saturday, 8 March 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link
the surrender of the claims to sublimity is part of the point/appeal tho, no?....
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:23 (Yesterday)
that was saying that in lieu of any identification with them then it doesn't work on any sort of transfigured way, like the squalour early suicide does
disbelief doesn't suggest they are falsifying their world but that identifying with it rests on investing in some of the same claims to what you call 'surly peasant' wisdom if that acerbic wisdom mostly seems trite, self-defeating lumpen rage without any sort of assimiliative or political intelligence beyond enumerating the indignities of their cell around them
their posture in the live videos has a sort of territorial, leering, malevolent quality that seems simulated and feeble, like many english pretenders they lack confidence, they don't realize that the people who created the world around them are cruder and more caustic than themselves
selfish cunt >>>>>>> sleaford mods
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Saturday, 8 March 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
have p much no idea what he's on about but I am enjoying this music a lot
― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 9 March 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link
little known fact that these guys were part of the Kersal Massive back in the dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uja3W-ibifc
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 9 March 2014 05:26 (ten years ago) link
Lol k punk writes about these in the latest wire
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Monday, 10 March 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link
Haha .. The Kersal Massive was the first thing I thought about when I saw that new Sleaford Mods video
The final rant about Levenshulme and then the closing 'Peace!' kills me every time ...
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Monday, 10 March 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link
Kersal isn't even near Levenshulme ffs. Wind yer necks in, lads.
― oppet, Monday, 10 March 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link
levenshulme's rep transcends its borough
― ogmor, Monday, 10 March 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link
and it's not that far in an 05 V6 Cleo Twin Turbo
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Monday, 10 March 2014 14:01 (ten years ago) link
Unfortunately the Levenshulme battle rap scene has been replaced by an M19 ukulele group.
I could not make out whether he was from Salford or Manchester <-- can't remember what Fall song that is but it ties this together nicely.
― oppet, Monday, 10 March 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link
93 & 192, makes sense to get a daysaver
found myself asking for a daysaver the other day & was much derided by my gf
― ogmor, Monday, 10 March 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
cheetham hill, oppet.
investing in some of the same claims to what you call 'surly peasant' wisdom if that acerbic wisdom mostly seems trite, self-defeating lumpen rage without any sort of assimiliative or political intelligence beyond enumerating the indignities of their cell around them
don't want to belabour this, but i don't think 'surly peasant wisdom' is a thing at all (certainly not something to be praised. It has no wisdom in it, it is just impervious and naturally antagonistic to certain types of folly (or mystically believed to be) - the empty grotesque (rabelais's parable of jest-gnostic insolubilia at the beginning of the first book of G&P always feels like it's about this. Fuck, I don't care if it's the SM thread, it's Saturday morning, no one's around - quoting Urquhart's translation (JCC of its day chiz chiz):
Most noble and illustrious drinkers, and you thrice precious pockified blades (for to you, and none else, do I dedicate my writings), Alcibiades, in that dialogue of Plato's, which is entitled The Banquet, whilst he was setting forth the praises of his schoolmaster Socrates (without all question the prince of philosophers), amongst other discourses to that purpose, said that he resembled the Silenes. Silenes of old were little boxes, like those we now may see in the shops of apothecaries, painted on the outside with wanton toyish figures, as harpies, satyrs, bridled geese, horned hares, saddled ducks, flying goats, thiller harts, and other such-like counterfeited pictures at discretion, to excite people unto laughter, as Silenus himself, who was the foster-father of good Bacchus, was wont to do; but within those capricious caskets were carefully preserved and kept many rich jewels and fine drugs, such as balm, ambergris, amomon, musk, civet, with several kinds of precious stones, and other things of great price. Just such another thing was Socrates. For to have eyed his outside, and esteemed of him by his exterior appearance, you would not have given the peel of an onion for him, so deformed he was in body, and ridiculous in his gesture. He had a sharp pointed nose, with the look of a bull, and countenance of a fool: he was in his carriage simple, boorish in his apparel, in fortune poor, unhappy in his wives, unfit for all offices in the commonwealth, always laughing, tippling, and merrily carousing to everyone, with continual gibes and jeers, the better by those means to conceal his divine knowledge. Now, opening this box you would have found within it a heavenly and inestimable drug, a more than human understanding, an admirable virtue, matchless learning, invincible courage, unimitable sobriety, certain contentment of mind, perfect assurance, and an incredible misregard of all that for which men commonly do so much watch, run, sail, fight, travel, toil and turmoil themselves.
Whereunto (in your opinion) doth this little flourish of a preamble tend? For so much as you, my good disciples, and some other jolly fools of ease and leisure, reading the pleasant titles of some books of our invention, as Gargantua, Pantagruel, Whippot (Fessepinte.), the Dignity of Codpieces, of Pease and Bacon with a Commentary, &c., are too ready to judge that there is nothing in them but jests, mockeries, lascivious discourse, and recreative lies; because the outside (which is the title) is usually, without any farther inquiry, entertained with scoffing and derision. But truly it is very unbeseeming to make so slight account of the works of men, seeing yourselves avouch that it is not the habit makes the monk, many being monasterially accoutred, who inwardly are nothing less than monachal, and that there are of those that wear Spanish capes, who have but little of the valour of Spaniards in them. Therefore is it, that you must open the book, and seriously consider of the matter treated in it. Then shall you find that it containeth things of far higher value than the box did promise; that is to say, that the subject thereof is not so foolish as by the title at the first sight it would appear to be.
And put the case, that in the literal sense you meet with purposes merry and solacious enough, and consequently very correspondent to their inscriptions, yet must not you stop there as at the melody of the charming syrens, but endeavour to interpret that in a sublimer sense which possibly you intended to have spoken in the jollity of your heart. Did you ever pick the lock of a cupboard to steal a bottle of wine out of it? Tell me truly, and, if you did, call to mind the countenance which then you had. Or, did you ever see a dog with a marrowbone in his mouth,—the beast of all other, says Plato, lib. 2, de Republica, the most philosophical? If you have seen him, you might have remarked with what devotion and circumspectness he wards and watcheth it: with what care he keeps it: how fervently he holds it: how prudently he gobbets it: with what affection he breaks it: and with what diligence he sucks it. To what end all this? What moveth him to take all these pains? What are the hopes of his labour? What doth he expect to reap thereby? Nothing but a little marrow. True it is, that this little is more savoury and delicious than the great quantities of other sorts of meat, because the marrow (as Galen testifieth, 5. facult. nat. & 11. de usu partium) is a nourishment most perfectly elaboured by nature.
In imitation of this dog, it becomes you to be wise, to smell, feel and have in estimation these fair goodly books, stuffed with high conceptions, which, though seemingly easy in the pursuit, are in the cope and encounter somewhat difficult. And then, like him, you must, by a sedulous lecture, and frequent meditation, break the bone, and suck out the marrow,—that is, my allegorical sense, or the things I to myself propose to be signified by these Pythagorical symbols, with assured hope, that in so doing you will at last attain to be both well-advised and valiant by the reading of them: for in the perusal of this treatise you shall find another kind of taste, and a doctrine of a more profound and abstruse consideration, which will disclose unto you the most glorious sacraments and dreadful mysteries, as well in what concerneth your religion, as matters of the public state, and life economical.
Do you believe, upon your conscience, that Homer, whilst he was a-couching his Iliads and Odysses, had any thought upon those allegories, which Plutarch, Heraclides Ponticus, Eustathius, Cornutus squeezed out of him, and which Politian filched again from them? If you trust it, with neither hand nor foot do you come near to my opinion, which judgeth them to have been as little dreamed of by Homer, as the Gospel sacraments were by Ovid in his Metamorphoses, though a certain gulligut friar (Frere Lubin croquelardon.) and true bacon-picker would have undertaken to prove it, if perhaps he had met with as very fools as himself, (and as the proverb says) a lid worthy of such a kettle.
If you give no credit thereto, why do not you the same in these jovial new chronicles of mine? Albeit when I did dictate them, I thought upon no more than you, who possibly were drinking the whilst as I was. For in the composing of this lordly book, I never lost nor bestowed any more, nor any other time than what was appointed to serve me for taking of my bodily refection, that is, whilst I was eating and drinking. And indeed that is the fittest and most proper hour wherein to write these high matters and deep sciences: as Homer knew very well, the paragon of all philologues, and Ennius, the father of the Latin poets, as Horace calls him, although a certain sneaking jobernol alleged that his verses smelled more of the wine than oil.
So saith a turlupin or a new start-up grub of my books, but a turd for him. The fragrant odour of the wine, O how much more dainty, pleasant, laughing (Riant, priant, friant.), celestial and delicious it is, than that smell of oil! And I will glory as much when it is said of me, that I have spent more on wine than oil, as did Demosthenes, when it was told him, that his expense on oil was greater than on wine. I truly hold it for an honour and praise to be called and reputed a Frolic Gualter and a Robin Goodfellow; for under this name am I welcome in all choice companies of Pantagruelists. It was upbraided to Demosthenes by an envious surly knave, that his Orations did smell like the sarpler or wrapper of a foul and filthy oil-vessel. For this cause interpret you all my deeds and sayings in the perfectest sense; reverence the cheese-like brain that feeds you with these fair billevezees and trifling jollities, and do what lies in you to keep me always merry. Be frolic now, my lads, cheer up your hearts, and joyfully read the rest, with all the ease of your body and profit of your reins. But hearken, joltheads, you viedazes, or dickens take ye, remember to drink a health to me for the like favour again, and I will pledge you instantly, Tout ares-metys.
Rabelais to the Reader:
Good friends, my Readers, who peruse this Book, Be not offended, whilst on it you look: Denude yourselves of all depraved affection, For it contains no badness, nor infection: 'Tis true that it brings forth to you no birth Of any value, but in point of mirth; Thinking therefore how sorrow might your mind Consume, I could no apter subject find; One inch of joy surmounts of grief a span; Because to laugh is proper to the man.
Also I've been v much enjoying Pubic Hair Ltd.
Why you fucking hidingBehind a stupid car?Doing 30 in a 40,Playing solo Johnny Marr?
Who gives a fuck about yesterday's heroes,Who seem to think they are still today's heroes?It's not a pyramid, you're not a fucking pharoah.
I keep finding it amusing. Both the initial image and the playground second bit.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 22 March 2014 08:45 (ten years ago) link
you're not a fucking pharoah
too perfect
― fhingerbhangra (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 March 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link
Be a lot more interesting if dude ws
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 22 March 2014 10:05 (ten years ago) link
This shit is great.
― brains hangin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 24 March 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
At Rough Trade for Record Store Day. Opening scenes are... unexpected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Njw0gYyVFQ
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 20 April 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
Ha these dudes are too perfect
It's like Begby from Trainspotting: the band
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 April 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
that guy is the nose scratchingist emcee i have ever seen......
― m0stlyClean, Sunday, 20 April 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
that woman at the front in the final few frames with the five year old child is going to have some explaining to do when her kid goes back to nursery this week
― It's Pablum Time with (NickB), Sunday, 20 April 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
on their FB page today:
"Ello. I would like to apologise to those that came to see us in Brighton last night. It's been really busy this past few months and old demons got the better of me. It's no excuse and it's not on. Really sorry. Jason"
Does anyone know what happened?
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
went AWOL drinking in London I think.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link
not really sure what happened. just before they were due to go on the promoter or road manager or someone climbed up on stage and announced that they wouldn't be playing cos "one of them had gone MIA in south london" but he refused to expand on that. i did see the guy who isn't jason outside the pub earlier on, and a tweet from a local listings magazine claimed they were both there but couldn't be arsed, but i don't know how true that was. most of the speculation i've seen is that jason was too hungover/drunk to make it. anyhow, local punk poet atilla the stockbroker seized the opportunity to take the stage so i made a swift exit to go and see some other gig instead. saw another tweet later that the other sleaford mod did go on and play some music but again, dunno if that's true or not...
― ricky don't lose that number nine shirt (NickB), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
anyhow nevermind, rescheduled for october apparently, so he can have a bit of a lie down til then
― ricky don't lose that number nine shirt (NickB), Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
Yes, it seems that Andrew Fearne went on alone - http://youtu.be/dKv4K8dYMMA - and handed out free CDs as compensation.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 27 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
ha good bloke, wish i'd stayed now
― ricky don't lose that number nine shirt (NickB), Sunday, 27 April 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
that gig surely at the vanguard in the long-running trend towards gigs becoming more purely like rooms of people listening to the same thing
― ogmor, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link
I take it the album will be straight into the top ten, if not number one, and the papers will be all "Where did that come from?" business.
― Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
top lead review in the new mojo.
― mark e, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
http://thetalkhouse.com/talks/luke-haines-the-auteurs-black-box-recorder-talks-sleaford-mods-divide-and-exit/
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
he is such a shit writer
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link
Luke Haines is an avant garde singer-songwriter.
Luke Haines is always having a laugh
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link
luke haines is one of those rare and wonderful englishmen luke haines is a fly in the ointment of mainstream music luke haines is not quite the archetypal angry young man luke haines is one of the best songwriters in the world today luke haines is the leader of the autuers luke haines is at the luke haines is allegedly the grumpy luke haines is luke haines is a british genius luke haines is fully aware of the fact that the seventies weren't all about bellbottoms luke haines is back with absinthe luke haines is an evil pop genius luke haines is the most underrated talent in pop music today luke haines is utter genius luke haines is one of those shape luke haines is the most underestimated songwriter of our time luke haines is the auteur behind this particular group's brand of artrock luke haines is a cynical bastard and one helluva songwriter luke haines is a genius luke haines is better known for his "other" band luke haines is the main man in the splendidly creative auteurs luke haines is camping in a different pasture altogether luke haines is a very observant luke haines is the loner kid in the big classroom of rock stars luke haines is correct luke haines is a fantastic example of what luke haines is what can be seen as a typical british artist as i donґt think you will find music that is more british than his as there is the typical sarcasm luke haines is strange and i know that martin rossiter hates him luke haines is terug
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
lol
his twitter feed is pretty funny
he got really riled up when some journalist said he was cursing him with black magic
he went on for hours making fun of the guy for saying that
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:06 (ten years ago) link
just downloaded Divide & Exit the new Sleaford Mods from amazon...this is pretty killer so far!
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
really loving this
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link
OK you sold me
― RSD-rolled (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
these dudes have won me over, sorry for questioning ur judgment upthread england
― adam, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Would pay top dollar to have them yell at me in a small room. Top notch.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
gnarly coke dead facesdeath death deathnine to a cubicle
btw who is Norbert Colin?
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
protagonist of rarely-seen strip in 'Viz' comic
Norbert Colon
The meanest man ever to exist, he makes Ebenezer Scrooge, Albert Steptoe, Rigby and Arkwright all look like reckless spendthrifts. Once sawed his own feet off in order to buy a pair of boots, and turned down a cheap holiday in the South Atlantic cutting kelp (2p and all the plankton you can eat!) because spending money wasn’t included.
NB I didn't quite understand the reference in the actual lyric
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link
google reckons that an irl Norbert Colon lives in New Jersey
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Norbert-J-Colon/Parlin-NJ/4fhm7pf
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link
Thanks to a chance shuffle on the car mp3 player, I have finally worked out where that drum beat on Urine Mate comes from - it's Careering by PiL.
The more I think about it, Wobble/Levene-era PiL seems like a better model than anything else for Fearney's backing tracks.
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 09:21 (nine years ago) link
Yeah there is a bit of a PIL sound to them. Im loving the album.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link
'Fearny' is surely the best programmer out there? Reminds me of a some of 4 Hero's more complex grooves. With a huge dose of UK Subs thrown in the mix.
'Liveable Shit' is hilarious - nailing Shoreditch scenesters and GG fucking Allin name droppers within 10 seconds
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Friday, 8 August 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
"Liveable Shit" is where the record really kicks in, that and "Under The Plastic" are the immediate standouts for me. I love how there are no breaks at all between the songs.
― sleeve, Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link
I wish these guys had their lyrics up somewhere.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 15 August 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
....
baah.
― Mark G, Friday, 15 August 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
damn spelling corrector.
.....
naah!
(never mind)
― Mark G, Friday, 15 August 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
crab eyesand other lonely little DJswith no fuckin life
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 August 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
sat around the blokes househe liked me cos i made some informed comment about the early history of his fucking countrybig mirrorlumps of drugshis own private lift
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 15 August 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
The dinosaurs are stuck, no way to get downThe meteor sinks its teeth in the groundI'm not bothered, I never wasHere's a crap caravan on Tiswas
― oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 15 August 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
"wanked in your toilet, you fucking tit rifle" pops in my head several times a day at this point
― papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 15 August 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
I don't speed dateI buy speedFrom single mothers who smoke in front of their kidsAnd keep their biscuits in the fridgeAnd their gear under the biscuit tin lid
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:00 (nine years ago) link
drove through sleaford the other day. i'd imagined it was a nottingham suburb but it's way out in the flat south lincolnshire corn fields next to thatcher's hometown grantham. weird bit of the country next to the wash & not a lot going on
like the bits of the album when it sounds like they're having fun w/ the listener a lot more than when it drifts into Right On social commentary
― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:23 (nine years ago) link
http://thequietus.com/articles/16048-sleaford-mods-interview
nice interview/film from The Quietus
― piscesx, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link
i don't want white teeth and big titsi want yellow fingers and missed mortgage paymentsi'm in the zoohangoverand someone just thought i was liam gallagherI'M NOT HAPPY
^the way he says i'm not happy always cracks me up, love it
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
Annnnd Mr. Williamson now has a column in Vice:
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/sleaford-mods-jason-williamson-column-dayjob-914
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 August 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
Work. Worse than Liam Gallagher's tweets.
<3
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
his writing-style, subject-matter, tone and life situation remind me very strongly of our dear own xelab, which is a compliment to both
― imago, Thursday, 21 August 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
saw them last night, fun as hell. was stood next to a guy I vaguely know who yelled along to every word from every song about the grey drudgery of gainful employment. his own job literally involves ruining/endangering the lives of asylum seekers by organising dawn raids on their houses and deporting them back to whichever regime they fled. makes u think
― for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Monday, 8 September 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link
jeez... i guess whatever morally dubious line of work you pursue, you probably still go home thinking that yr boss is a cock
― john wahey (NickB), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
The system dehumanizes everyone, even the cops
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link
whilst all of those points are reasonable, i still prefer to think of it as "some people might as well be informally executed because it's the only way they'll learn"
― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
US release coming on Ipecac (i think) late Fall.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link
Uh. Weird label.
― "a bit of goatery, some demonry" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link
notwithstanding ppl's opinions on Mike Patton and/or his taste in music it seems like he just releases anything he enjoys so fair play imo
someone told me that Matador bailed on signing them and regretted it after the fact
― for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I mean, anyone putting them out's fine. I hope they do an annotated booklet with detailed explanation of cultural references for us Americans, though.
― "a bit of goatery, some demonry" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 07:38 (nine years ago) link
'ey, ya bleedoh, you got a right cob on' = 'You're in a rather foul mood, you silly man', in East Midlands speak, iirc.
― Flowersdie, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link
Was thinking more along the lines of "Cameron's hairdresser got an MBE," which I had to Google.
― "a bit of goatery, some demonry" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link
isn't that some kinda medal, like they gave to John Lennon?
glad I will be able to buy this on vinyl without paying $28 for the Harbinger Sound import
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ztxVh2gPQ&
― ogmor, Monday, 22 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
ok when he takes a swig from the mug
― 93. Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one (imago), Monday, 22 September 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
SM tweeted it tbfttl
― ogmor, Monday, 22 September 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
were i williamson i'd be fucken tickled to be parodied tbh
― 93. Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one (imago), Monday, 22 September 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
Sleaford Mods: 'Most days I'd only have enough money for a Mars bar and a can of Special Brew'They may be the gobbiest band in the UK – just ask Miles Kane – but there's a political fury behind their angry missives
John Harris John Harris The Guardian, Thursday 17 July 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jul/17/raging-against-the-machine-rise-sleaford-mods/print
sleaford mods yall
― macho nonreal (nakhchivan), Monday, 22 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
That tells you all you need to know about the twat John Harris
― Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 22 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
If anyone wants to see them tonight (London, 100 club) I've got a spare ticket.
― woof, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link
Matador put out a 7" as part of their singles club, though
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Looks like the domestic (USA) release has been removed from the schedule now.
― mr.raffles, Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link
Recorded a track ("Ibiza") with the Prodigy
― willem, Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link
Matador 7" is a hole in the collection, can't find it anywhere.
Woof, is there any chance you could pick me up a copy of the 7" split with Sudden Infant that will be on sale tonight? Gossip suggests it's only available in very small numbers so unlikely it's be on sale anywhere other than the 100 Club.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
no problem - I'll look for it and report back tomorrow on success/failure.
― woof, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
7" split with Sudden Infant
amazing, love this even if I never hear it
― sleeve, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
they're also doing a single on Iron Lung which is comparably ill-fitting/excellent
no-one seems to sell any of the Matador singles club releases, even by bands who aren't quite as collectible rn
― well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
The Anton Newcombe-released 'Fizzy' is starting shipping today as well.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
FWIW, the Matador 7" tracks are also on Chubbed Up: The Singles Collection, which is on digital release already and vinyl release very soon.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
Meanwhile, Jason goes pro:
Sleaford Mods @sleafordmods · 1h 1 hour ago25 long fuckin years setting that alarm clock have ended. Ello tunes.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
did someone come along and offer more ££/$$ that matador then ?
― mark e, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
It was his last day at work today, apparently. The plan was always to give it up this autumn, as demand for gig bookings grew.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
live the dream.
they totally deserve a few years of fun.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Aldo - split single acquired - I think my ilx mail works (also on twitter)
― woof, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link
i have the routine dean 45, ws (would sell)
― mit iodine (electricsound), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:10 (nine years ago) link
ended up snaffling woof's spare ticket, which led to a slightly odd evening of going to the first half of what I was originally doing - watching Andreas Staier on fortepiano at the Wigmore Hall doing Schubert moments musicaux, Schumann fantasiestücke (after ETA Hoffman), and some Beethoven bagatelles. This was a remarkable, slightly more forceful set of interpretations than you'll hear in other performances. I find the Fantasiestücke (Op 12) slightly inscrutable, but the intricacy and lyricism of the Schubert pieces, makes you feel like you're looking into a momentary scene in which the detail is revelatory and meaningful - like a piece of lyrical memory that stays with you forever despite its slightness. also by fuck it makes you want to be in Vienna.
then hotfooted it to the 100 Club and watched Sudden Infant, Consumer Electronics and Seaford Mods - all of whom were very good I thought. Inventive belligerence of different types, with some tasty crowd antagonism on the part of Consumer Electronics. Not a huge amount of flexibility in the SM approach, but when Jason's going full whack it's very entertaining and generally bucks up the spirit.
― Fizzles, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:34 (nine years ago) link
schubert and philip best on the same transplanted bill. the city of wonders
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:38 (nine years ago) link
Seaford Mods
seems to be a local tribute act to everyone round our way now
― john wahey (NickB), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:42 (nine years ago) link
ha! whoops.
― Fizzles, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:47 (nine years ago) link
loool
― mit iodine (electricsound), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:52 (nine years ago) link
Woof and Jim, will mail when I get home in a couple of hours.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 24 October 2014 10:21 (nine years ago) link
Nottingham's getting a lot of them at the moment: they supported The Pop Group earlier this week, and they're supporting The Specials very soon (the latter also nationally).
― mike t-diva, Friday, 24 October 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link
Aldo - got your email but you may need to send another with your email in - I think I can only reply to the ilx robot.
― woof, Friday, 24 October 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link
Going tonight to the 100 Club. So skint I dare not go for the supports for fear I'll spend money at the bar.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 24 October 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
Resent!
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link
^the Sleaford Mods manifesto
― pecker shrivellage (imago), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
worry about not having enough money to get drunk at a show, 1) definitely been there and 2) also a very Sleaford Mods concern
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
bring a flask!
I would shank a kitten to see Sleaford Mods and the Pop Group
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
"i can't believe you had kids" is the greatest insult outside of a Half Man Half Biscuit record.
― piscesx, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
The other day, after a particularly shit day, I was on the bus home listening to the Tiswas EP. I tweeted that it was a very Sleaford Mods kind of journey home. They tweeted back. A minute after I got off the bus, I was hit by a car. Not hurt, but the only way it could have been more Sleaford Modsesque would have been if I'd spilt a can of beer when hit by the car.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
Or if you'd been hit by a crap caravan.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
Looking like a fun weekend down here in Bristol - Simple Things festival tomorrow with Mogwai / Harvey / Zomby / SOPHIE etc then I've just found out that Sleaford Mods are playing the Exchange on Sunday. Perfect way to spend a hungover Sunday eve tbh.
― Willl, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
just a headsup, Bristol date is sold out I believe
― well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
The release is now back ON the schedule again for the USA.Coming out 11/24 through Ipecac.
― mr.raffles, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
Ah bollocks you're right. Cheers for the heads up Mencap xp
― Willl, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
nyc show 11/29 yall
― adam, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link
no one? gonna be a good time man except for the $7 beers
― adam, Saturday, 29 November 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link
they were fucking great in Utrecht last week. Maybe the highlight of the festival.
― poop will eat itself (S-), Sunday, 30 November 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
killed in BK - whole show is up in HD on Youtube. Williamson took a pint on the dome for no reason at all
― saturdaynight (jk), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
does anyone know about this stuff on youtube that appears to be off something called The Originator? must be an early release, because they are using more samples that I'm sure weren't cleared, like Creedence here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6_U3iz6yxU
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
The Originator is the third album and maybe the first one that shows what we think of as 'current' SM all the way through, although still two albums before Fearney turns up.
That track is on Re-Tweeted, which is basically the highlights of the first four albums plus a track from Wank that didn't make it onto Austerity Dogs.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
track 4 on the new album by The Prodigy 'Ibiza' feat. Sleaford Mods
!
― piscesx, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
hahahahaha that's so perfect
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
ooh, a fucking pharoah in a fucking pyramid album
― Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
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― willem, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
ooh
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2015 06:29 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/mar/06/sleaford-mods-jason-williamson-rails-against-the-music-industry
i think these guys are gonna blow the fuck up in 1977
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/sleafordmods/status/572922870952812544
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
i gather from this thread these guys have been around a while but the two or three songs i've heard basically sound like mclusky who weren't exactly without obvious precedent themselves so these guys writing to the guardian to say it's all just shitty rehashes of quality from yesteryear sure takes BALLS imo
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Prefer these to the godawful Mclusky to be honest. Can do without the extra-musical gobshite espousings of either.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 7 March 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
first paragraph
Rock star posing does my head in. Mate, you are not sexy, you are not Brad Pitt, stop it. Comical rock stardom, classroom posing, is a redundant gimmick, a yesteryear stage prop.
last paragraph
It’s got to be raw. No excuses. Not now.
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
do love that the first bit of "related content" at the bottom of the page is about noel gallagher
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
― mike t-diva, Friday, February 28, 2014
I hear early Streets plus Fall & John Cooper Clarke
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 March 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
total rock critic rock. rock crits love them wordy bastards. people don't get excited by that hold steady guy anymore. need something new.
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 March 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
Sleaford Mods are an English minimalist electronic post-punk/hip hop duo
― definitely listening to an adult MTG player (salthigh), Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
If rock critics like wordy bastards how come the Kate Tempest album got completely ignored?
― tayto fan (Michael B), Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
can anyone link to some "hip-hop" from these guys? unless "vocals reminiscent of The Streets" equals hip-hop now? And is there anything "electronic" about them other than the fact that the post-punk rhythm section stuff comes out of a laptop?
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7KPN2onL30
cuz like, in practice, this just feels like McLusky minus guitar to me. Which in and of itself isn't awful, but does make the author's POP MUSIC HAS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE article a bit ironic
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehcDX3XqDs
ok this is a little more "hip-hop"
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
don't get me wrong, i love wordy british bastards too. these guys are fun. they feel of the moment. fad-like? do people still listen to old Streets albums? or even their old Lifter Puller records? i still listen to my half man half biscuit records.
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
admittedly that article might have been the worst possible way to be introduced to a musical act - the music itself is inoffensive so i'm sorry if i'm bumming out people who were just digging a post-mclusky pet shop boys irrespective of his LET'S GET RAW blather
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
it's tradition. for british musicians to slag off the fake rubbish. it's their job.
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
He's specifically aiming at career NME bands isn't he? His 'raw' demand is because there's so much polished middle class non-DIY male posturing sheng dominating their covers and advertising.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
did you read the whole piece?
Samey Winehouses singing forgettable songs in videos shot in poor areas. The willing and eager, the would-be stars, have no interest in their own experiences, of anything, so they go for the loot and the useless awards and hide behind shiny plastic walls made by fashion houses. DJs are so safe they ought to be holding seminars on fucking traffic awareness when crossing the road.
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
Dollar sound like Led Zeppelin when placed alongside Scouting For Girls or Echosmith, the Dixie Chicken outlets of New Pop, the Dyson, that colourful aerodynamic piece of shit, the attainable domestic gimmick.
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 March 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
Ah fair enough. He's saying what'll get them press exposure isn't he? Get the Gallagher fans into them. Which seeing as their initial fanbase/label support was way more leftfield was probably a wise move.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 7 March 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Don't underestimate Sleaford Mods.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 7 March 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
if musicians didn't talk shite in the press, we would doubt their credentials
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― Soylent News Service (contenderizer), Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
I like Sleaford Mods it's fun
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 7 March 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
Well I wouldn't necessarily say they are talking shit but anyhow I find this kind of discussion and topic - whether I agree with it or not - more interesting than say who will be the next host of XFactor or what the latest lounge suite colour might be. Also better to hear some unfriendly fire rather than the kind of talk that comes out as muffled and bland from being safely squeezed between the two fat dripping buns of commerce and mediocrity.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 8 March 2015 01:08 (nine years ago) link
Arctic Monkeys singer Alex Turner used his acceptance speech at this evening's Brit Awards (February 19) to insist that "rock'n'roll will never die".
The Sheffield band won two awards at the ceremony at London's O2 Arena, taking home the gongs for British Group and British Album. "There's that 15 quid we put on One Direction to win down the drain," quipped Turner after he and his bandmates collected the first prize but, when picking up the award for British Album for last year's 'AM', he said: "That rock 'n'roll, eh? That rock'n'roll, it just won't go away. It might hibernate from time to time, sink back into the swamp. I think the cyclical nature of the universe in which it exists demands that acquiesce to some of its rules.
"But it's always waiting there, just around the corner," he added. "Ready to make its way back through the sludge and smash through the glass ceiling, looking better than ever. Yeah, that rock'n'roll, it seems like it's faded away sometimes, but it will never die. And there’s nothing you can do about it." He then told organisers to "invoice me for the microphone if you wanna" before dropping it on the floor.
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:16 (nine years ago) link
Alex Turner may be basically the little kid from Blues Brothers 2000, but he's not wrong.
― Leonard Pine, Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:46 (nine years ago) link
Rock 'n' roll as a concept is embarrassing outdated conservative shit that needs to be called out for all it's excruciating horror at every point
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:49 (nine years ago) link
What about the current California scene of mainly women-led bands who are as comfortable referencing Prince and Madonna as the Ramones? They're not conservative or outdated but I'd be hard pressed to describe what they do as anything other than rock.
― Leonard Pine, Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link
Rock'n'roll is not that. Rock'n'roll is stupid fucking Arctic Monkeys prick trying to assert that his fun is more important than yours.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 March 2015 13:37 (nine years ago) link
Prick boys in leathers living out their dad's fantasies
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 March 2015 13:38 (nine years ago) link
this is making Arctic Monkeys sound much more exciting than they actually are
― soref, Sunday, 8 March 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41exo5eq8SL._AA278_PIkin4,BottomRight,-58,22_AA300_SH20_OU15_.jpg
― soref, Sunday, 8 March 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link
There are always good rock bands but they don't tend to be the ones spending a lot of time "saving rock"
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 March 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link
"He then told organisers to "invoice me for the microphone if you wanna" before dropping it on the floor."
party on!
― scott seward, Sunday, 8 March 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link
is everyone agreeing with the sleaford mods now because that is the exact behaviour he is calling out, not advocating.
― Leonard Pine, Sunday, 8 March 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
http://springfieldfiles.com/albums/books/0011.JPG
― daed bod (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 March 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
shit like this is giving a little too much credit to the mods - both he and alex turner would post a pic of them with mick jones and put "real" next to it. the mods just think they're a shade rawer and realer, when the joke is they're just as narcissistic as the people they're mocking.
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
"we don't spout vain anti-pop bullshit on the stage of the nme we spout vain anti-pop bullshit in the guardian op-ed section"
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Dollar sound like Led Zeppelin when placed alongside Scouting For Girls
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
You have to admit that is utterly perfect self-clowning
If I were trying to lampoon the cultural myopia of these prophets telling it like it is I could not have bettered that
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
DA croup with awesome year late hot takes
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 March 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Lol
But that guardian thing is not from a year ago tho I'm sure these dudes' schtick has remained unchanged for millennia
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
did Alex Turner ever clarify if his brits speech was supposed to be ironic? I seem to remember that being quite a hot topic for a bit
― soref, Sunday, 8 March 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
yeah sorry if i'm a johnny-come-lately for discovering this band you like is full of shit, ums
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
surely challenging the paradigms of out-of-touch folk like myself was their goal in writing a guardian op-ed
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
also "yeah this (allegedly, though not on this thread) came up a year ago" is a weird defense of an article that references a lyric from 2009 as proof of shit hard rock macho posturing and sly stone as an example of good music
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
though honestly i get the sense that everyone defending these champs has actively avoided reading what they have to say
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
it's always a good day to remind people that sly stone is an example of good music.
― scott seward, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
yes but the word has been out for a while
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
That's what's so hilarious about the dollar-led-zep-scouting-for-girls triangulation, like how perfectly out of touch
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
Hoping the "The Mods"/scouting for girls beef has legs tbh
i'm just sad they're probably too cool to have dinner with russell brand and noel gallagher cuz it sounds like they'd have fun
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
I'm sure I'd have fun at dinner with writer & activist russell brand & career comedians noel gallagher & "The Mods" tbf
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Like I don't want to seem too down on these guys, I think I said itt that I listened to & liked one of their comedy records but was surprised that they had like 10 of them & ppl cared
The one I heard was like "Brian Eno, what the fuck does 'e know"
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
i did wonder on first read if this article was some kind of klf parody of indie vanity but if it is, judging from their twitter they're playing the long game
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
and yeah again this is not a dis on their tunes which sound like bands i've liked
i had a pretty negative reaction to smug retro-post-punk stuff like art brut and lcd soundsystem on first blush, but eventually found their humor and hooks so i'm not assuming these guys aren't similarly capable
― da croupier, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I unfollowed him on Twitter pretty quick and I'm a sympathiser
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
he's certainly assiduous in re-tweeting praise for the band
― soref, Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
I believe he was a big Oasis fan and spent the 90s and on doing rock bands the whole minimal loop thing was at least part in being frustrated & sick of it
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 March 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
cool
― Luis Brañuel - Bell de Jour (wins), Sunday, 8 March 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
There's some 10 minute or so minidoc where he said basically got sick of working on these songs trying to make them "good" and sending pro sounding demoes to indie labels this was more like we can make a song in 5 minutes with words and a cheap loop
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
I like these guys, but this Guardian rant isn't saying anything more than 'commercial music is shit nowadays'. Jaded middle-aged punker types have been saying exactly this for decades. His argument runs into problems in that he gives no back-up examples.By 'Samey Winehouse', I assume he's talking about a particular brand of UK popstar, the the kind who makes appearances on Saturday Kitchen, gets nominated for a Brit Award and is marketed to people who like Amy/Adele but ultimately lacks the ingredient that made these unique. By 'rock'n'roll', I assume he means a particular brand of swaggering post-Britpop UK rock, the kind the NME and the rest of the music industry have been hanging their hopes on since at least 1998. This is what I assume he's saying. It's all an assumption. But because he mentions, like, three examples, one of whom are Scouting For Girls (who haven't released anything since 2012), his attacks come off as arbitrary and not a little bit rockist in places.Fact is, I am also going to assume his argument comes from the right place. I'm inclined to agree there's been an ongoing and growing problem with the UK music industry in the notable lack of risk-taking since the economic collapse. This has led to a lot of bland, easily categorisable music being pushed to wide customer niches - you go in the Razorlight box; you go in the Dizzee Rascal box; you go in the Adele box etc... Careers being built on the backs of others. In some ways it's nothing new - this is marketing after all. But as I think someone a while back on ILM said, we're a far cry away from the days when a modestly successful UK pop-rock band like XTC could be granted the studio time to record a '60s psych-influenced vanity spin-off project.It's not like the US. You guys still have GOOD 'rock' bands, many of whom get decent coverage around the world, play cool festivals and don't just sound like staid cut'n'pastes of something that was popular 15-20 years ago. That's not to say the UK doesn't have exciting bands who do sound unique, fresh, innovative or exciting. Save just a handful of exceptions, the majority are touring a batch of clapped-out toilets in commuter towns trying to scrape a living off selling a batch of handpressed CD-Rs. They're not being interviewed by Pitchfork. They're not playing Coachella. They're not even playing Reading Festival or appearing on Saturday Kitchen because they haven't got a record label. While the music media bemoans the death of Britpop, it forgets the real reason UK music felt so alive and fertile at that time: chances were being taken on acts like Portishead, Aphex Twin, Tricky, the Chemical Brothers, Radiohead, Suede, Massive Attack and countless others. I can't even imagine a band like the Manic Street Preachers getting as popular now as they did in the 1990s. The majors wouldn't sign them and the indies just don't have the platform they might once have, and that's all down to money I guess.
― nuumerykah (dog latin), Sunday, 8 March 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
Saturday Kitchen! i wish i had a show named Saturday Kitchen.
that's some old-school stuff from dog latin right there. you'd think this thread was ten years old.
― scott seward, Sunday, 8 March 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link
His argument runs into problems in that he gives no back-up examples.
sadly that's not where his argument runs into problems
― daed bod (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 March 2015 00:34 (nine years ago) link
it's weird to hear him sing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE0QC9nFrDE
― scott seward, Monday, 9 March 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm looking forward to this (is it out?).
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 9 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
released in May I think
― Reader, I murder dem (DJ Mencap), Monday, 9 March 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
mostly pro-mods still, but:
soref otm, find the stream of 'AT LAST, real music with real attitude' retweets coming from them a bit dismal. The swagger-of-oasis satisfactions for 6Music culture-class.
& re:swagger, recent tweets say they're on The Who's support bill this summer, just above slydigs:
a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis
― woof, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 10:32 (nine years ago) link
I see that a lot on Twitter. Honestly, the fans like it as much as the artists; it's a mutual appreciation society.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
"The smell of piss is so strong it smells like decent bacon" has to be one of the alltime best one-liners.
― nuumerykah (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
Tiswas EP is really good, they slowly seem to be moving away from the more garage rock sample beats, within their very limited minimal thing
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
ive no interest in the 'music' produced by these guys but I'm a fan of their analyses
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
would you particularly rate the observation that placed next to scouting for girls dollar sound like led zeppelin
― prole, you'll be a yeoman soon (wins), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
Why are all their cultural reference points so ancient: Tiswas, Oompa Loompas, Buzz Lightyear, Touche Turtle, etc. Is it some kind of deliberate throwback to the days of Atilla the Stockbroker or whoever? Like Pulp singing about lyrcra and woodchip?
― everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
they're old tbf
I do not know dollar but have heard some led zep
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
Ha I don't understand like 75 percent of the references so they could be old or new English indie baseball angry man talk whaddya know
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
I do remember that in the mid-80s Dollar were the assumed to be the epitome of lightweight MOR fluff. Had a Dollar poster on the wall during my student days actually - partly ironic for them being so universally mocked, partly genuine because Trevor Horn connection validated my liking of some of their singles. Feels like you have to be mid-40s to make any sense of this.
― everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
deems I'm not the biggest led zeppelin fan, louis is more your man for that sort of raucous experimental uk prog-folk but fwiw this is my favourite led zep song
― prole, you'll be a yeoman soon (wins), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Sleaford Mods 30+ years behind Tracy Ullman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GgkoaXWdXc
― everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
sorry wins i dont take candy from strangers, money from friends or music tips from internet message board i love music
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
they're playin' in fuckin' 'itchin tonight!
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Friday, 20 March 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
I do remember that in the mid-80s Dollar were the assumed to be the epitome of lightweight MOR fluff.
Not sure how true that is, Paul Morley never stopped going on about them so they were popular with the New Pop wing at the NME.
― Betel-chewing Equipment of East New Guinea (Tom D.), Friday, 20 March 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
"mirror mirror" is an interesting tune.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Friday, 20 March 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
"hand held in black and white" is pretty good too. Dollar were like Trevor Horn's pet project (before FGTH arrived)
― tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 20 March 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
I do remember that Dollar were assumed to be the epitome of mid-80s lightweight MOR fluff.
Fixed.
― Mark G, Friday, 20 March 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
It was Trevor Horn's work with Dollar that got him the gig with FGTH/ ZTT I think? Certainly not his stint as Jon Anderson as Yes.
― Betel-chewing Equipment of East New Guinea (Tom D.), Friday, 20 March 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
It definitely got him the gig with ABC for The Lexicon Of Love; Martin Fry's on the record about that.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 20 March 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
"Ibiza" - The Prodigy ft Sleaford Mods - https://youtu.be/guUHZnbWoyo
― mike t-diva, Monday, 23 March 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
a testament to Andrew Fearn's importance to the band
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 March 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
yep
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 23 March 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
wait, don't prodigy already have a ranter? what happened to their clown?
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
oh shit, did the clown die?
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
rip prodigy clown
― adam, Monday, 23 March 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
Bad move for the Sleaford Mods to hitch their wagon to such has-beens.
xpost. As far I know, Trevor Horn only produced four songs for Dollar. The ones mentioned by various people upthread of course. Those songs are lauded retroactively by eg. ILM types for being Trevor Horn productions, not because they are Dollar songs. Most of their hits were produced by others.
― everything, Monday, 23 March 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
wiki says keith flint (the funny hair prodigy shouty guy) is alive and well and still in the band
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 March 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
hey now the prodigy sound like aerosmith when placed next to newton faulkner
― sexpost TMIing! (wins), Monday, 23 March 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
there I said it
Dud.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 23 March 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
Don't know who Newton Faulkner is. But both the Mods and the Prodigy sound really old-fashioned right now. Their gigs are full of dudes in their forties. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Went to a couple of Exploited gigs in the 90s that were great fun.
― everything, Monday, 23 March 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
I had to strain pretty hard to dredge up a target that would be as laughably "who? oh right, them" as SFG tbf
― sexpost TMIing! (wins), Monday, 23 March 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
is that dog latin post real, the side comment about the US having REAL rock bands made me wonder if he was trying for his own ranty over music career
― mh, Monday, 23 March 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
I never said anything about 'real' anything.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Monday, 23 March 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
I apologize, you said GOOD
:)
― mh, Monday, 23 March 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Anyway, that Prodigy thing is really really terrible. may as well have got Keith Flint to shout 'oibeefa! Wass 'e fackin' doing?' over that sad excuse for a beat and saved Williamson the trouble. enjoyed seeing them the other night at a packed out local show. surprised that the average age was, yes, about 45 or perhaps more. kind of expected there to be a bit of a hip, younger contingent but not really. spoke to the dad of a friend outside who was enthusing about them. then had to endure some grumpy bugger i know who hates everything go on about 'they're good but they'll never last unless they get a proper band together' which was pretty lol.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Monday, 23 March 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
shit the Ibiza track is no good? i guess it was never going to be as good as we heard it in our heads in advance.
yeah the Dollar thing, ABC hired him for Lexicon.. because of the Dollar singles and then TH approached FGTH by which point he was already A Big Deal.
― piscesx, Monday, 23 March 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
ibiza thing is like the worst 90's thing ever. i was never a fan though. dirtchamber thing was the only thing i ever liked by them.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
hay scott
http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000009622969-zevklk-original.jpg?8460df1
― the late great, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
srsly though how can you not love "experience"
― the late great, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
i guess it was never going to be as good as we heard it in our heads in advance.
The thing I'm hearing in my head in advance is fucking terrible, I can't think of any two acts more likely to bring out the absolute worst in one another.
― Matt DC, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
...no comment xxp
― sexpost TMIing! (wins), Monday, 23 March 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
that is actually wins in that painting, funny story
― mh, Monday, 23 March 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
i will never listen to it again perhaps but i actually like that prodigy song tbh, the objective terribleness somehow only enhances its gleeful mania. kind of reminds me of when the fall started doing dance stuff like why are people grudgeful
― cgi bubka (NickB), Monday, 23 March 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
I'd say it sounds like the Revolting Cocks but that might imply it had merit.
― everything, Monday, 23 March 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link
xp it reminded me a bit of that MES & D.O.S.E. track a bit, the Fall go big beat was really a sound the world had been waiting for
― Keith Moom (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 09:18 (nine years ago) link
Reminds me of 'DARE' by Gorillaz. Indie frontman + electronica combo might be one of my least favourite genres. Never sounds quite right, and yeah like Matt DC says, more often than not it's the worst of both worlds.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 09:29 (nine years ago) link
Plug Myself In was great fuiud
hell no I'm not going to listen back to see if 19 years of hindsight might have changed that view
― pissbaby nobody in the corner (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 09:35 (nine years ago) link
by the sound of it there was little to no collaboration per se on the 'Ibiza' track, Jason just sent them some lyrics and they put it over a standard neo-Prodigy beat
it's certainly nothing special but I'd kind of rather Jason offhandedly did stuff like this rather than wave it away because the Prodigy aren't the coolest thing on the block anymore
― pissbaby nobody in the corner (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 09:38 (nine years ago) link
Never sounds quite right
i think that's what i liked about it - it sounded demented
and hell no I'm not going to listen back to see if 9 hours of hindsight might have changed that view
― cgi bubka (NickB), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 10:00 (nine years ago) link
At this point the Prodigy really are starting to sound like Jeremy's 'Outrageous' bedroom track from Peep Show.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 10:11 (nine years ago) link
ha
― electrobiscuit, Thursday, 26 March 2015 07:22 (nine years ago) link
Their next collab is with Leftfield - a pattern begins to emerge. http://www.nme.com/news/leftfield/83915
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Chemical Bros collab coming soon
― Keith Moom (Neil S), Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
This is a bit embarrassing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
Ha ha. "No, mum, I'm not coming in for my DIINNNAHH... Eat it your FUCKING SELF"
― A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
And did those feetIn ancient timesFEEL IT
― ^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC,
agreed.bills have to be paid.suspect that they are beginning to learn that being outside the loop means you can do/say whatever the fuck you like, whereas now with signatures provided on various forms, life is no longer that simple.expect lyrics re being fucked over by the music industry in 2 years.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
i really enjoy themthey feel to me like something that's not going to last, or at least in a vital way, for a super long timebut that's ok too, not everything needs toi mean jeez i could count some of the greatest punk bands of all time that never had more than a handful of singles and maybe an album
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
Jase and Andy.Your job is now done.You were absolutely vital and I thank you for that shot in the arm.
Seen Seaford Mods as much as I saw Husker Du. They are now at the 'Warehouse...' phase. Fearny no longer required
Yes, I am an old bastard like SM. Where's the yoooof? They must be so contented with their Xbox , FB and zzzzzzzzIs music dead?
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
this isn't intended as a criticism but you always sound drunk when you post
― pissbaby nobody in the corner (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Saw them in Hebden Bridge two nights ago. Sixth time I've seen them, but the first time outside Nottingham. Hands-down the best show I've ever seen them do. Never seen Jason so absorbed, intense and fierce.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 29 March 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Thanks Mencap.
I'm actually a straight edge vegan. Since last night. I was a touch hungover (possibly still drunk, so well spotted) and my post was rather poor . I wish I could retract it.
Sleaford Mods are vital.
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 29 March 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a review which is original on two different levels
― pissbaby nobody in the corner (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 March 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
Saw them in Hebden Bridge two nights ago
Dont know anything about this band but last year I lived 3 minutes walk from the Trades Club (which is where I presume this was)
― anvil, Monday, 30 March 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
It was, of course, the venerable Trades Club - talk about "core constituency".
― mike t-diva, Monday, 30 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
The support act, a performance poet, drew a furious heckle: "STOP USING CUNT AS A DEROGATORY TERM". The first song on the SM set list? Oh, I see you're ahead of me.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
that sounds like Hebden, did you stay over, there?
― anvil, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 11:07 (nine years ago) link
Yes, at Croft Mill, which was A+. Found the music store slash cafe the following morning, spent a happy half hour there.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 11:38 (nine years ago) link
amazing show tonight in Manchester. they've got this new one (possibly Bronx In A Six) which has a mentally loud (and fantastic) bass that was giving me major MBV flashbacks.
― piscesx, Saturday, 16 May 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
Surprised nobody is talking about the new one, which has some minor departures (more surreal lyrics in some places; some vocals that are very nearly sung). It's really great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-gvxxhcS8s
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 10 July 2015 10:19 (eight years ago) link
I reviewed it a few weeks ago, and I think it's their best yet: a consolidation and a progression. The Tarantula Deadly Cargo/Rupert Trousers/Giddy On The Ciggies sequence towards the end of Side 2 is particularly killer.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 10 July 2015 11:08 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM2f0YWhP9o
― mike t-diva, Friday, 10 July 2015 11:09 (eight years ago) link
liked no one's bothered, interesting too see how long they can last w/the formula
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 July 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link
andy partridge endorsement sold me on these guys. v prime-era Fall
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
Suspended from UK Labour, apparently..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
They can kick you out of their party?
― SOMEONE'S got to program the propaganda simulacra (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 16 September 2016 09:53 (seven years ago) link
new album out: English Tapas
really digging it, feels like maybe they were saving their a-game for the Rough Trade debut, best since Divide & Exit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZN01Cqzek
slightly expanding, vox a little more melodic..last song "I Feel So Wrong" is pretty...lush (relatively speaking) for them
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 March 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link
"Suspended from UK Labour, apparently.."
I don't think I like the music but fair play for calling Dan Jarvis a "posing cunt".
― calzino, Monday, 6 March 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
agree with this. a bit more focused after quitting the booze/drugs, perhaps?
TRIP TO SPAR IS LIKE A TRIP TO MARS *beep beep*
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
It comes as a relief after the TCR EP; lead track aside, I thought the other ones were coasting it a bit. But this is bang on again.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link
yeah TCR EP was pretty weak I thought, TIWAS maxi/single EP thing was pretty ok, mostly just because they were probably contractually obligated to eventually title a song "Bunch of Cunts"
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link
This band are so embarrassing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
why embarrassing?
― Position Position, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
williamson has such a mix of vulnerability & endeavour to him it's more like fondly rolling yr eyes at an old school friend imo
― ogmor, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
Yeah otm, hearing the awfulness of Slaves made a pretty great case to me of just how much Sleaford Mods do right
― devvvine, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link
i agree but i think too many bands don't risk being embarrassing now
or i like the earnestness disguised as cynicism
in their very minimal, blunt instrument way i think that their beats are kind of amazing and catchy
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link
they have such a limited musical palette that i'm pretty surprised they've managed to last this long
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
Re the "where in the history of other bands do they fit in" vein present in parts of this thread: might an elephant in the room be Carter USM?
Then again, a track on the new one reminded me of DAF more than anything!
"Just Like We Do" cracks me up, especially the phrase "social medias".
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 17 March 2017 01:30 (seven years ago) link
What's a drag, is that there is a cassette edition, couple of hundred, with odd nick-nacks freebies, and side 1 has the album and side 2 has a live gig.
Now, I'd like the live gig, but it sold out in seconds and it's now selling on ebay for around £50.
The package comes with a download for the live gig (only), but no place else to get it.
― Mark G, Friday, 17 March 2017 07:42 (seven years ago) link
They were the answer in a pub quiz I was in last week. Sellouts.
― Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Friday, 17 March 2017 09:05 (seven years ago) link
I had to look up what BHS was but now I actually like the song better.
― SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:42 (seven years ago) link
I could see Carter USM in a way
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:14 (seven years ago) link
in a very correct way
― mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:23 (seven years ago) link
Would still take Prinzhorn Dance School over these lads.
― nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link
i guess they felt a little more like a proper band and also more part of what was going on w/dance music at the time, to me at least
Fearn's deciding to not do the whole phony "let me put my headphones on one ear and pretend i'm messing with all these knobs" thing is def one of my fav things about SM
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link
I think they're ironically aware of the Carter USM thing; there's a track on the new album that is somewhat laden with You Fat Bastards.
― mike t-diva, Saturday, 18 March 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link
What really cartered it for me may have been the "Brexity Roller" pun.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 18 March 2017 08:52 (seven years ago) link
aaaaaand i'm out
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 March 2017 08:54 (seven years ago) link
just discovered the genius of sleaford mods
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 06:03 (six years ago) link
he seems like a good egg
https://themindmap.co.uk/interviews/going-emotions-sleaford-mods/
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj8aaw2X4AASFIX.jpg
― still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 09:45 (five years ago) link
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link
Carter USM comparison is kinda apt, still love them though
― . (Michael B), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 10:13 (five years ago) link
new record getting good early reviews - I guess S.M usually do
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link
new album is great, a little more oomph and atmosphere in the instrumentals, I think. but also a kazoo
― Simon H., Monday, 11 March 2019 12:48 (five years ago) link
still fucking good
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Monday, 25 November 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link
Unexpected lockdown cover of 'BHS' by Glenn Tilbrook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9fYkma_YVo
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Saturday, 11 July 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
haha amazing.
― piscesx, Saturday, 11 July 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
Love live videos of SM, with the producer bopping his head and drinking a tallboy every time.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 12 July 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link
The only band Mark E. Smith was willing to praise near the end of his life? Pretty surprising, seemed Fall-adjacent enough for him to get mad.
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
I hadn't heard that! makes sense though...
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
I make a little time in my life for the Sleaford Mods every now and then
Marc Riley praised a lot more and his opinion means a lot less but I would just like to co-opt this thread to say that his approval of the Flat Worms was not done in error, they are good
― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
The female guest vocals on a couple of the new tracks do feel like a welcome alleviation of the sometimes relentless blokiness of this stuff, while still being totally consistent with the overall aesthetic.
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
ha I made a SM mix a couple weeks ago and brought her verse in twice
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
I don’t really think of them as particularly blokey per se; Jason’s not like his onstage persona when he’s offstage, and Andrew’s gay. That said, I do also welcome the recent female guest vocals... they offset something.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link
I think it's their best album in a while
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link
Billy Nomates solo work is quite good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhEX9n5DjZQ
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link
like Viagra Boys they're definitely dudes but not very bro-y/bloke-y IMO
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
Heroes
Ooooer. We got reviewed by Anthony ‘Fuck You If Your Not White’ Fandango. Totally bro’d out. https://t.co/Fzo6hTtnPO— Sleaford Mods (@sleafordmods) March 22, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link
Don’t be silly about it. Listen to Sleaford Mods. #biggypop@IggyPop pic.twitter.com/pCTMGmOqgc— Sleaford Mods (@sleafordmods) May 7, 2021
― o. nate, Friday, 7 May 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
I FUCKING LOVE THIS!
― mike t-diva, Friday, 7 May 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link
What a fine idea!
@orbitalband + @sleafordmods incoming....Wednesday - 13th October - 2021 pic.twitter.com/UtOPWHtS0R— Orbital (@orbitalband) October 12, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link
!?
I encourage this.
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
woah that's cool
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link
bring it
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link
The vocalist was on one track from the Scorn album before this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4APkN6hUZo
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link
Before the current one, I mean. Track above is from 2019.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link
Here it is in full: I Don't Rate You (Orbital Remix) - Sleaford Mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmH2xvf1Og
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link
I came back, I thought James' t-shirt said "MeganAsFuck" I was like wo.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link
Andrew's t-shirt, I mean.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link
Currently on their biggest tour in the UK; this is a nice surprise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031ltWRGioQ
― piscesx, Monday, 29 November 2021 10:05 (two years ago) link
You don't think it's going to work... and then it does.
The Uncut Curated Editions Special is well worth getting, BTW. It's pleasingly thorough, and they've clearly taken leading roles in its construction.
https://✧✧✧.un✧✧✧.c✧.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/sleaford-mods-co✧✧✧@1400x1050-696x✧✧✧.j✧✧
― mike t-diva, Monday, 29 November 2021 10:39 (two years ago) link
https://www.uncut.co.uk/publications/special-issues/introducing-our-latest-online-exclusive-curated-by-sleaford-mods-134439/
― mike t-diva, Monday, 29 November 2021 10:40 (two years ago) link
Just wanted to say wow and fucking wow at this band right now. Released banging new video featuring Perry Farrell. Force Ten and UK GRIM both outstanding stuff. I am buzzing for the new album this weekend.
― The Fred Machine (Ste), Monday, 6 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
I was so bowled over by English Tapas at its time that I've found everything since then vaguely more pedestrian, but yeah, "Force 10" in particular is promising. Who's the guest vocalist?
In the process of not finding out that on discogs, I learned about the 2022 Orbital collab, which sounds suitably mad and dandy.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 10 March 2023 08:35 (one year ago) link
Florence Shaw (from Dry Cleaning) is the collab for Force 10
Bought the new one this morning, not yet listened but will get around to it later. They're doing a live internet broadcast tomorrow at 9pm bst on YT wit Q and A
― Ste, Friday, 10 March 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for YT headsup!
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 10 March 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
"get married and go on safari" cracks me up every time. They do have this knack of striking imagery, to use ilx parlance.
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 10 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
oh more heads up on that yt thing, Mods say from 8:30 they will be in chat to answer questions.
― Ste, Friday, 10 March 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
when he sings "don't go" upthread he sounds rather a lot like Paul Weller
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
liking this one more than the last few
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link
Perry Farrell sounds like he was airdropped in from a '90s ska-punk record.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 10 March 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
Hiya Dan. Apologies but we are not sharing a bill. Sheer Mag are supporting us because this is our tour. Credit where credits due, of course and I understand this is their hometown, however this isn’t an event that has a shared billing. They are the support.— Sleaford Mods (@sleafordmods) April 10, 2023
― just sayin, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:34 (one year ago) link
(in relation to a tweet saying they’re sharing the bill)
― just sayin, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:35 (one year ago) link
followed by throwing his toys out of the pram when being mocked for it
― zing me with your best zhot (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:39 (one year ago) link
It was about that time again I guess for accounts with under 15 thousand followers, loosely connected to gatekeepers and disc jockeys to accuse us once more of punching down. A term beyond ripe for the bin, along with ‘vital’ and ‘amazing’.— Sleaford Mods (@sleafordmods) April 12, 2023
settle down lad, you're not a fucking pharoah
― zing me with your best zhot (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link
hilarious that they would care so much abt being the main act?
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 13 April 2023 10:21 (one year ago) link
Talking to @mattforde very soon. Tickets on sale now innit. https://t.co/FgI9BnkYcq— Sleaford Mods (@sleafordmods) July 2, 2023
Aaaaaaaand they're finished
― orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 July 2023 07:23 (ten months ago) link
it's bad enough getting the kiss of death from that unfunny melt twat, but then being civil towards him - that is a cancellation level crime alright!
― calzino, Monday, 3 July 2023 07:44 (ten months ago) link
"this plodding pub-rock number with trenchant lyrics about Universal Credit + Austerity Britain is dedicated out to our hilarious comrade buddy Matte Forde.."
― calzino, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:26 (ten months ago) link
Matt Forde's nine favourite records for mental wellbeing:
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/comedian-matt-forde-nine-favourite-albums/
Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4pM0HcifJTI4xiiXfUjHK7?go=1&sp_cid=b7c0a2bd992f55c6376109a270042ba2&utm_source=embed_player_p&utm_medium=desktop&nd=1
― he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:34 (ten months ago) link
opened the link with slight trepidation that this cunt would have reasonable taste in music, first choice was Be Here Now, so that was a relief, no need to read any further.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:39 (ten months ago) link
tbf I give him some credit for his defence of Dire Straits
― he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:51 (ten months ago) link
Obviously a guy with a profound love for and appreciation of music
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:53 (ten months ago) link
The reason it's nine albums and not ten is obviously because those are the only albums he's ever heard.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:56 (ten months ago) link
no need to read any further
You'd like to think so but you'd be wrong.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 3 July 2023 09:48 (ten months ago) link
that is some Gregg Turkington in movie buff mode shit right there
― imago, Monday, 3 July 2023 11:01 (ten months ago) link
i have no idea who matt forde is but that list is incredible
the ghostbuster inclusion and then selecting a truck stop johnny cash comp called "itchy feet" killed me
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 July 2023 14:48 (ten months ago) link
he's an exemplar of everything is wretched about UK comedy and politics, fucking hideous guy
― calzino, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:05 (ten months ago) link
Ok, guess we're all done with these twats now
How to destroy any notion of being some brave political band speaking truth to power in 10 seconds. https://t.co/yZ1RwTFeMk pic.twitter.com/Y3ulM4ZfKG— C (@Obsayxx) November 4, 2023
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:16 (six months ago) link
The "I'm thick" defense.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link
I notice the first reply to the original tweet is Leeroy from the Prodigy saying, "Your not wrong". LOL.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:48 (six months ago) link
https://www.stereogum.com/2241539/sleaford-mods-end-show-early-after-palestinian-scarf-thrown-onstage-dont-be-asking-me-to-pick-sides/news/
“Don’t be asking me to pick sides for something I ain’t got any real idea about, at a gig,” they wrote. “I’m a singer. My job is music. The only real thing I know about War is that I’m sick and tired of premature death like we all are. Of the murder of anyone, under whatever fucking belief grid.”
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:49 (six months ago) link
Sleaford Melts
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:11 (six months ago) link
Local politics only! pic.twitter.com/xrAJELIOQg— General Erection (@ErectionGeneral) November 4, 2023
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 4 November 2023 20:00 (six months ago) link
Seeing them in Manchester tomorrow. On the plus side if they cut the show short I'll be able to catch the train home instead of uber.
― Ste, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 12:08 (five months ago) link
Take along a Palestinian flag to make sure.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 12:36 (five months ago) link
Bob Vylan has been calling out pseudo-left bands like Sleaford Mods and Idles on their current tour. I'd missed the previous revive so didn't know which bands they were talking about at the gig (they had called them both out by name at a previous gig, but the one I went to they said they didn't want it to become a this band vs that band beef so didn't name anyone specifically)
I miss that guy on Twitter who kept winding up Sleaford Mods by congratulating them for their MBE tbh
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 12:44 (five months ago) link
I wonder where Benefits land on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THuZ2tTn9yY-
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 12:50 (five months ago) link
Assumed the revive was for their Pet Shop Boys endorsed version of ‘West End Girls’. Not one of their finer moments.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 13:54 (five months ago) link
oh yeah, it's terrible
― Ste, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 14:06 (five months ago) link
I'm just going to write a Sleaford Mods song to demonstrate how easy it is to get an MBE these days
Income Support
Piss
Giro
Wanker
Bastard
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 14:16 (five months ago) link