C or D: Wolf Eyes

i've heard all the full-lengths and a few of the cassettes. none can recapture that first glimpse/listen i had of them. i say take your chances live. I've seen them twice and fell in love... O_o

see also: VIOLENT RAMP.

I saw them open for Sonic Youth. They were absolutely the worst band I have ever heard. Their music is like the holocaust^2. It was almost like a parody of art-rock bands. The amazingly annoying lyrics, the blowing on that stupid horn, the idiot guy who jumped up and down like he was really into it, even though he didnt really play an instrument.

Wolf Eyes are a horrible, horrible band.

hmmm...

maybe the guy really was into it even though he couldn't play an instrument. isn't that sort of the theory that Sonic Youth sort of started with? I'm not saying you should like it, but at least they're eliciting a response, which is more than could be said for a lot of the pap being made right now.

gosh, those guys must really be monsters.

just ambient noise. i heard they were supposed to sound like suicide or electro punk shit

but i've heard Dread is the one to get

It actually exceeds Freddy Got Fingered.

Jason D. how was your sandwich for lunch today?

guess who you borrowed SLICER from? i'll hook you up tomorrow with the real deal.

too funny...

the self-titled and "fuck pete larsen" releases are also pretty tasty, i can't wait to hear "slicer." as for the american tapes stuff...inessential, but some of it is interesting, like the "black rat floods" and "dead mills" collections of clanky ghost factory concrete. sort of like the black dice/wolf eyes things amtapes released, actually.

i could understand why folks might not like this. expecting an oreo cookie, but getting cocoa, sugar, flour, and lard. it's like rock on it's side, with a beat.

m.

probably more people than there ever existed.

oh i'm a geek,
m.

But it makes me want to pick up more. Probably the "Dread" CD or the "Fuck Pete Larsen" LP since I've seen both of those around and mailorder is a hassle sometimes.

Can anyone tell me what exactly is on the "FPL" LP? I've heard that it's a compilation but what of? Cassette releases? Singles? Comp tracks?

there are some really great releases on am tapes (yellow eyes, the universal indians LPs, dr. gretchen's musical weightlifting program) but they can be an endurance test if you're not 'feeling it.'

and if anyone has "thrist of the worm"...i'm up for a trade.

there was also an american tapes 3" CDR called "dead hills" that seems to bear little (if any) relation to the troubleman release.

When the spring begins, and you feel fully awake for the first time in months, and you're walking around in short sleeves reaquainting yourself with leaves and grass and sunlight, then you might want to listen to some different music. Right now, though, "Dread" sounds perfect.

what label is dread on?

incidentally, anyone who uses soulseek should look for the live 11.15.01 video and audio by wolf eyes, it's fucking great. as are the two CDRs ("half dogs" aka olson mix and untitled aka dilloway mix) i've seen around.

03/19 Boise, ID
03/20 Seattle, WA @ The Crocodile
03/21 Olympia, WA @ No Exit
03/22 Portland, OR @ Nocturnal
03/23 OFF
03/24 Eugene, OR @ John Henry's Club
03/25 Sacramento, CA @ Espresso Metro
03/26 San Francisco, CA @ Bottom of the Hill
03/27 San Francisco, CA @ Hemlock
03/28 Oakland, CA @ Rockland
03/29 Los Angeles, CA @ The Smell
03/30 San Diego, CA @ The Casbah
03/31 Tucson, AZ @ Solar Culture
04/01 OFF
04/02 OFF
04/03 Kansas City, MO @ Your Face
04/04 St. Louis, MO @ LNAC
04/05 Murfreesboro, TN @ Red Rose Coffee House & Bistro
04/06 Lexington, KY @ Artsplace
04/15 Detroit, MI @ Magic Stick
04/17 Chicago, IL @ Fireside Bowl
04/18 Evanston, IL @ Nevin's Live
04/19 St. Paul, MN @ Macalester College

SEE THEM LIVE.

(although I am bummed they played 5 shows in SF in 2001, only 3 this year. :-\ )

http://sfbg.com/37/25/art_music_wolf.html

Dread roolz. Slicer is less intense but also roolz.

j0hn dwy3r was next to me talking loudly the entire show about (!!!) himself (!!!) imagine that gee whiz.

That said, Mugger rules, Dread rules, Slicer is pretty good, and they eat my fucking face live. Today, on my record shopping binge, I might pick up the split LP with Crack: We Are Rock if they still have it at Armageddon.

JW if you're searching for old hardcore threads to revive then look hard for the one where Aaron Dilloway himself comes and puts the smackdown on some ILM guy it's funny.

yes. though it really does seem like john olson joining made them the machine they are today.

JW if you're searching for old hardcore threads to revive then look hard for the one where Aaron Dilloway himself comes and puts the smackdown on some ILM guy it's funny.

the one where he criticizes someone for not listening to to live and shave in LA 'correctly'? that wasn't funny, it was sad.

(damn I'm mean today)

Seriously, though, I think Dread is great (as do a lot of others here, apparently). What about it do you not like?

Dead Hills and Black Dice - Lost Valley came out around the same time and would have made a good split.

- Echoy, muddy vocals
- Slow plodding bass drum
- Hearing test blipping

That is all.

Is anyone gonna release your and Ian's stuff?

does it mention scott radinsky (major league baseball pitcher and teenage screamer for scared straight?)

i only got my "nardcore" jones as a youngster from rodney bingenheimer bootleg tapes that i'd buy via mailorder...

aside from scared straight, ill repute's "clean cut american kid" was the most memorable of all those tracks.

[funny thing, dilloway would love this thread now]

the wolf eyes side project violent ramp is pretty much riding the vibe of some of the nardcore "local apocalypse" action that comes through.

when i lived in ventura, i surfed hollywood-by-the-sea and silver strand a few times and never felt that heavy local scene that was infamous in the 80s.

scott radinsky from simi valley! (like me) now in jock rock bands Pulley and Ten Foot Pole!
http://www.nardcore.net/805.gif
still tryin to find that link...

I was way too drunk!

what the hell? everybody's all up in my hometown's crack.

Here's the Andrew WK thing if y'all wanna hear it.

You should play Rochester, NY again cause I'm moving there soon, so now with Pengoo there's like over 10 people who would go to the show.

K THX!!!!

anyone know when the next 'real' album is being released?

www.geocities.com/berriesaswell.

Toves hasn't updated in a while but everything that's still listed is available

Anyone know about RUBBER-O-CEMENT?

Liking this so far. Its now in a break where the pulse has stopped and there's all kinds of paper ripping noises.

The recyceld cassette is great too!

The Lost Sockets 3" that came out recently on Chondritic isn't as thrilling. I think I've only listened to it once or twice since I got it.

'released' today on Polyamory:

WOODEN WAND & TOVAH D DAY
"Bad News Bearers" cassette

Bad News Bearers is a very special release in that it commemorates the very first released one-on-one collaboration between Polyamory co-founders / best friends Wooden Wand and Tovah D Day. It took nearly ten years, but here it is.

Fans of Tovah's other band Dead Machines will be happy to hear that the future Mrs.Olson is definitely the captain of this particluar ship, her cracked electronics, pitch-fucked cymbal sputter and lonely wolf calls taking center stage, while Wooden Wand augments with ring modulator, voice and percussion. Our favorite Polyamory release since A Cut Above!

$5 ppd - paypal to oracle909@aol.com preferred.

www.geocities.com/berriesaswell
http://sinkhole.net/woodenwand

(x-post)

^ 52 minute interview! do they address the macho issue?~?!?@!

Everybody get ready, and get into gear....

the Degrassi sensation

the one and only

the zits are here!

everybody wants something they'll never give up

everybody wants something they'll take your money and never give up

everybody face up to the facts as they are,

dedication is hard but, you'll be somebody and you'll go far

everybody wants something they'll never give up

everybody wants something, they'll tkae your money and never give up!

http://www.cyberroach.com/analog/an19/hayes_1200.jpg

-- dfdfsdf (gdfgdf...) (webmail), July 21st, 2004 11:07 AM. (later) (link)

-- gddfgd@dgg (ggdfgdf...), July 22nd, 2004.
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if that weren't enough, the mpls clearchannel venue's website also has
a third band listed on the bill called "wolf's eyes"...

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anyone? anyone?

The title of the song has "Maggot" or "Freak" in it.

Extreme SUPER LOUD wall of sound noise mostly bores me and is pretty trivial to make

Here are US dates....

10/27/2004
The Living Room
Providence
RI
Rubber O Cement, Made in Mexico

10/28/2004
Tonic
New York
NY
Rubber O Cement

10/29/2004
Vox Populi Gallery
Philadelphia
PA
Rubber O Cement

10/30/2004
Talking Head
Baltimore
MD
Rubber O Cement, Double Dagger

10/31/2004
The Warehouse Next Door
Washington
DC
Rubber O Cement

11/1/2004
The Werehouse
Winston-Salem
NC
Rubber O Cement, Catwell

11/2/2004
The Village Tavern
Mt. Pleasant
SC
Rubber O Cement, Death Cheetah

11/3/2004
Drunken Unicorn
Atlanta
GA
Rubber O Cement, Wilson & Heath

11/5/2004
Spellcaster Lodge
New Orleans
LA
Rubber O Cement

11/6/2004
Mary Janes Fat Cat
Houston
TX
Rubber O Cement, A Pink Cloud

11/7/2004
Emos Jr.
Austin
TX
Rubber O Cement, Aurora Plastic Company

11/9/2004
Modified Arts
Phoenix
AZ
Rubber O Cement

11/10/2004
Casbah
San Diego
CA
Smegma, Comets On Fire, Rubber O Cement

11/11/2004
Echo
Los Angeles
CA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement

11/12/2004
The Mile High Club
Oakland
CA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement

11/13/2004
Bottom of the Hill
San Francisco
CA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement

11/14/2004
The Meow Meow
Portland
OR
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement

11/15/2004
Chop Suey
Seattle
WA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement

11/18/2004
Triple Rock Club
Minneapolis
MN
Rubber O Cement, Diamonds

11/19/2004
Empty Bottle
Chicago
IL
Psychic TV

11/20/2004
Magic Stick
Detroit
MI
Psychic TV

-- DJ Martian (altmartinu...), October 20th, 2004. (later)

BEST EVER. KISSES!!!

They're pretty good, but I bet there's no Phaedra.

Perhaps kind of silly, but not necessarily bad - see Merzbow and Borbetomagus, for instance. What I've heard of Wolf Eyes ("Dead Hills" mostly) is good in much the same way as those bands are - the absurdity inherent in extreme music is one of its virtues.

(Yes)

No really, Alba - you WON'T like them.

EVERYWHERE

too funny...

hahahahaha, never noticed this before!

it was the beginning of something beautiful.

I see that the CCA website is listing the Saturday gig as Tony Conrad's 'first UK Show' - utter bollox, cos I saw Conrad/Faust in London maybe ten years ago now? it was OK, but I'm more excited abt catching Double Leopards on the same bill - I contrived to miss most of their set at the SY ATP last year (I was watching Saccahrine Trust upstairs and they were great too, in their way)

I don't think Alba will like Wolf Eyes either

that's a bill tighter than a pair of glamrock spandex

I'm most excited about double leopards.

will you go, alba?

anyway, sometimes it's nice to be a part of something.

"Psychogeist," on the other hand, is an extended, ambient drone. Has some clangorous elements but overall, it's very subdued. Wolf Eyes dub. Both songs, actually, are rather relaxed in feel. Kinda nice, even. Definitely lacking the ear-drilling, bowel-clenching panic of Dead Hills & Burned Mind. More hypnotic than terror-inducing, and very much of a piece with the recent River Slaughter dbl LP. Massive trumpet squalls in the foreground, though often mutated almost beyond recognition.

True to form, it's all very cinematic, suggesting a railroad yard in darkness or an abandoned highway overpass. Occasional muted smears of red and green light in the distance. Wind over steel and concrete, hung machinery and patient rust. Cars and engines sweeping through but never stopping. You know: textbook industrial noir, and I'm still surprised haven't been tapped to do more soundtrack work. (Maybe they have and aren't interested. Dunno...)

Are they retreating, or moving forward? Hard to say, but the recent, Dilloway-free material does sound more similar to the Wolf Eyes of Slicer and the early singles and CD-Rs than to the "Slayer-influenced" sounds of 2004-05 (which came off more like a lo-fi, scuzzcore Skinny Puppy, anyway).

Great stuff, but I can't imagine this is gonna widen their fan base much...

sooooo 2003?

-- =[[ (eman), Monday, August 7, 2006 10:55 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link

I dunno, I saw them live last year and it was great. Results may vary, I guess.

early wolf eyeys is such a rip off of early skinny puppy it's unreal

I went to a bar b q at one of these guy's house

filthy dylan, do you live in ypsilanti?

Detroit, but it was in ypsilanti. Also, a while back Wolf Eyes did an installation at an art gallery and they showed all these records they made on their personal lathe including this chunk of vinyl that had two intersecting grooves and looked like an infiniti sign. It was pretty cool

Fucking dreadful.

their best proper LP = dread.

dead hills is excellent, and such a beautiful picture disc

yeah, i still get in the mood to bust out Burned Mind and Dread every now and again. haven't heard Dead Hills, maybe i'll look that up.

Just d/led a Wolf Eyes CDR called delwar showdown and most of it seems to just be recordings of them hanging out and going to shows, yet it is at least semi awesome for a couple of listens. Can anybody recommend any more of their weird novelty-esque releases, no matter how obscure, rar has made obscurationists of us all u guys!

just came here to say slicer is awesome

duh

I set up a goodwill purchased receiver/speaker combo to boost my TV and DVD enjoyment and one of the first things I watched was the COVERED IN BUGS DVD. There's a great "rotten tropics" from a basement full of fifteen year olds in Ann Arbor at the end of the compilation segment.

Saw Wolf Eyes last night and they kinda sucked. All ponderous and glitchy. What happened to the awesome psychedelic sax freakouts I saw support Whitehouse a couple of years ago?

Yeah I really wish bands would keep on making the same records over and over, too, for I am also a predictable, boring, joyless masochist who fears change, and I prefer the music I enjoy to reflect that.

wow

now that's bringing your a-game!!! x-post

Here we go again...

well, it's the most revived thread ever for a reason

anyway, anybody feel the recentish wolf eyes lp on hospital, always wrong. i didn't, but am curious abt others' reactions. way too one-dimensionally shrill and grating for me, with none of the murky, gooey, tarpit throb that used to hold down the shriek & clatter. for some reason, i'm inclined to blame the shift on dominic fernow, as it sounds like a prurient-approved version of the band. honestly tho, i haven't liked much (any?) of the post dillo stuff.

I enjoy the emphasis on Nate's vocals - I like them higher in the mix. It's sort of a different band now, I agree (not a bad thing), but when I saw them a few months ago they were as murky, deranged and fucked up as ever.

yeah, they've remained very satisfying live, though it's been a while since i last saw em. and i love the emphasis on vocals and clearly structured songs, just wish the whole thing were recorded a little differently. total inversion of my reaction to my favorite WE records, which sound amazing and inviting, regardless of how unstructured and supposedly "harsh" the music is.

Interviewing Nate Young tomorrow night - anyone got any questions for him?

I don't have any questions but tell him his recent solo albums RULE

The show itself was pretty awesome (nice 'n' subdued atmospherics w/harmonica + wah-wah wig out) and he's an exceptionally good interviewee. Swell guy as well.

One man thread revival continues. Here's my review of the show if anyone's interested - I'd never been to a gig of this kind, let alone written about one, so any advice/feedback would be really welcome:

http://crackmagazine.net//article/648/nate-young/

Sounds like a good night. Have you heard the Stare Case record?

FINAL thread revival: the one and only Experimedia have run with my interview and it's the first they've ever published so i'm rather proud. enjoy:

http://experimedia.tumblr.com/post/22254606220/nateyounginterview

Cool interview. I should've told you to ask him what that sound is that appears on most of his albums.

http://noise-park.tumblr.com/post/21811256238/john-olson

new wolf eyes

http://pitchfork.com/advance/59-no-answer/

been totally digging wolf eyes the last couple of days. they sound better than ever to me. the old stuff. sounds more CURRENT to me than it did at the turn of the century. for some reason. really appreciate the old stuff more now than i did at the time.

they are really really good.

Oh he'll yes

Always Wrong didn't do anything for me, Human Animal was the shit

New one pretty tasty at first blush.

Courtney Love CobainVerified account
‏@Courtney
@pitchforkmedia wait so Wolf Eyes is the most important band of the last 20 years ? lets got to my local bar and duke this out

no let's go to MY local bar, bitch.

Nate Young via Aaron Dilloway
HA too funny! 16 years ago WE banned her from our gigs, and she finally wants to fight

i want wolf eyes vs. courtney love storytime

i thought the bump would've been for the wolf eyes rider from 15 years ago: http://swezlex.com/woofpies/jsdemands.html

Always Wrong didn't do anything for me, Human Animal was the shit

also w/ ss. been having a reappreciation sesh over the past few weeks, and the early stuff (slicer thru burned mind or thereabouts) still sounds great. especially enjoying the more ambient long-format stuff, live tracks, etc.

yeah, these guys were pretty much one of the best things going until Aaron Dilloway left. Human Animal was the last thing he worked on and it's a total decline from there imo.

Yeah new one is dope in a Slicer way at points

xxp - holy shit! that is my sometime bandmate's website! </pvmic>

anybody seen them recently? any good?

Saw them at Netil House last night...hahahahah they are SO SO SO CAMP live! I'd only ever seen Nate Young solo before and that was a really sombre, dark, slow set. This was him and John Olson wearing cut-off denim jackets and leather camps doing yr archetypal hype-macho stances for an hour. Louder than I thought was possible too. Their new guitarist dude is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild!

They were supported by Folkazoid (who would have been awesome if I was stoned and seventeen) and Porn (Thurston Moore and Bill Gould from Faith No More doing some kind of improv avant metal shit, was geat, Thurston spent the whole gig looking like he was about to blat every where. Ended with some crucial thrash shit) who were wicked.

Sad to not see a single ironic fist pump all night tho.

http://ajcdrift.com/admin/uploads/ajcrocketbunny_bbpp5.jpg

but seriously, that sounds like an awesome gig.

Dwight, this record by Porn is ace: http://www.discogs.com/Porn-Experiments-In-Feedback/release/509042

The Dale Crover Porn is a different Porn, isn't it?

tbh I've never been quite sure, and they are tricky to search for online! I thought they're all part of the same collective-type-thing though?

Yeah I suppose that's possible, I just always thought of the Dale Crover version first. This new line-up sounds great too.

regardless, Experiments in Feedback is great, particularly the final track which is 15min long and is a loop of a particularly nasty bit of feedback. Far out!

http://www.thefader.com/2015/10/22/wolf-eyes-i-am-a-problem-mind-in-pieces

new one's pretty cool! some straight up (relatively speaking) rock songs on this. rotted out stooges and spacemen 3 jams.

made me revisit "No Answer: Lower Floors" which didn't connect at the time. appreciating it this time around.

and yeah, last time i saw them (2 years ago?) i didn't know how to take 'em. as mentioned above, it was pretty camp. like cartoon dystopian splatter punk rockin' out. don't know how they were in the glory days, but the previous time i saw them (6 years ago?) they were pretty straight n0ize dude noodlin'.

New album's real good

Their takeover of the Third Man instagram account was awesome

http://i.imgur.com/wBIgycW.jpg

New WOLF EYES

Undertow

Mostly not Tool covers

It's like funeral doom played with broken synthesizers and brass and a guitar that just can't

https://wolf-eyes.bandcamp.com/album/no-hate

Nice!

For a noise group they really seem to want everyone to know they're not shitheads, I love it.

related to Wolf Eyes, Dilloway made a playlist of his favorite "weird" Smithsonian Folkways records, and it's really amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMKUNfG8UYdeJsZLnfcu0ZKrKgwlk1Utn

Also available on Spotify and Apple Music.

“My whole life” from their last album caught me recently, great stuff.