ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

idk, do we have one of these? i've been trying to up my style game recently and thought it might be good to have a thread to post stuff i like, get the occasional opinion, etc. open to all, anything from business dress to casual etc.etc. maybe i should just get a pinterest or something.

*i'd like this thread to be about actual clothes ppl are wearing or considering wearing, there's an ile thread if you want to talk about the menswear blogosphere or make fun of stuff.

anyway, i don't have much occasion to wear ties, but i saw this on sale and became sort of obsessed with it so just placed the order. i want to wear it at thanksgiving or christmas:

http://www.drakes-london.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/517x579/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/9/a9wb.55065.001_m.jpg

i like this etsy seller's ties:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5912974/il_570xN.279574838.jpg

xpost wear it to an iggles game idk :)

I guess I need to wear a tie to my job interviews next week but just realised I only have wedding/party ties.

I need a fashion upgrade, I just feel like a schlub with most of my biz cas at work. I've always just gotten dockers to wear to work, because they're cheap and I've had trouble staying the same pants size over the course of my adult life. I never wanted to drop the coin on nicer pants because I knew in 6 months I would not fit in them. Plus I wear those dockers the fuck out. They are frazzled around the legs and the waist, all of them. Since I've been able to basically stay the same weight for the last year and a half now, I think it may be time to consider something better.

As for shirts, I have about 14 of the same kind of shirt, just in different colors/patterns. They are fine, but again, I've worn them the fuck out. Also, I have a bunch of mediums that don't fit as well as the few smalls that I have. I always buy them on sale, so it's hard to stumble upon the correct size, and I always seem to get heavily patterned ones, nothing basic.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

Don't even get me started on my shoes.

Bottom of my shoes currently. el oh el

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9458816502_677037dd49.jpg

I started wearing Dockers this year because I had problems splitting the seat of all the mid-range, Macy's-bought wool dress pants (Nautica, Calvin Klein, etc.) I had been wearing. It was a choice between spending all this damn money getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time or buying a new pair of pants for $35 a couple times a year. I'm pretty happy with the Dockers, but yeah, one of them has the makings of a hole in the knee already because my legs don't fit into the seats on my commuter bus.

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

Also, I sprung $150 for a pair of Ecco's a few years ago. They're comfortable, but they emit a horrible squeak when I walk across polished floors. Since I won't be able to afford another $150 to drop on shoes in the near future, fuck it, I'm just going to squeak everywhere I go.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

this is interesting. the guys who started it have a decent rep for their suits, i think. i don't like that you sign up for the service without ever trying a shirt--i think they should send you one to start sizing and let you assess the quality (if you've only been wearing s/m/l, go to a tailor or nice clothing store and get measured for your shirt size!). also it is all or nothing--you keep the three shirts or return them all. i assume that means they're going with pretty safe fabrics, colors, and patterns--fine if you're not picky.

getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

agreed. i had a longstanding no s/m/l shirts policy that i recently broke for some cheap j. crew casual button up shirts for summer. they fit great through my torso and had enormous sleeves (which was not a problem since i only wore them with the sleeves cuffed).

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

Not enough for them to actually be clean or unwrinkled most of the time.

It may just be the quality I was buying, but every shirt that I've got based on neck size has been voluminous everywhere else.

u need slim fit

yep

buying fitted shirts changed my life

Is there a medium fit? I need to find something between wearing a balloon with a collar and wearing a corset.

Try different brands I guess? Some give chest/sleeve measurements as well as collar size.

Maybe I just need a thinner neck!!

if you want to be super anal you can get a measuring tape and take some basic measurements on the best-fitting shirt you have to compare to web sizing info (or be even crazier and bring your measuring tape to the store too). i've taken to doing this with things like leg openings on pants.

i don't think that is super anal, i think that is just good sense. shopping online without knowing your preferred measurements is a complete crapshoot

SUPER anal is keeping your measurements in an evernote doc so you always have them available on your phone, not that i know anyone who does that

i bought a custom shirt from these dudes http://www.blacklapel.com have not recieved yet, will report back

the thing abt all the custom clothes sites is none of them really have the best style but we will see i feel like they should be able to handle a white dress shirt, itd b rad to be able to get some cool ass costom suits of the nets or w/e tho

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

yeah there are tons. do let us know about your experience w/blacklapel, jho.

i got a shirt made for my wedding at a mtm shirt tailor in boston (they basically follow the web model in that the sewing is done in hong kong, but someone measures you irl) and i was a little disappointed that the resulting shirt still had tons of billowing in the back when i tucked it in. kind of soured me on the cheap-ish mtm concept. i just bought an off the rack shirt from these guys - http://www.ledbury.com that fit me perfectly through the torso (which is kind of a big deal because i'm not a small guy and really don't need any fabric pooling near my waist).

got stuff from barneys warehouse dot com yesterday

this rag n bone unit

http://i.imgur.com/7QIMZdO.jpg

couple ties

http://i.imgur.com/jkO82ci.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ePZvwoP.jpg

a shirt

http://i.imgur.com/VzYvCYh.jpg

and these apcs

http://i.imgur.com/ZzP95cc.jpg

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:47 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya its a p amazing concept imho they keep yr measurements and then you can just order whenever, we will see re the exicuction

my menswear story is I have moths in my closet

bummer central

put some moth balls int here

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

lol

I've been wearing short shorts lately the prostitutes outside call me "legs"

ha!

i love that jacket, jho

agree & the liberty tie is p sweet too

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:08 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when u can get apcs for $80 maybe people just arent ready yet

tho tbh i think its already happened, im always here for you tho if you need to talk

thanking you all xp

yeah that's a sweet haul though I share elmo's suspicion of the chillwavey jeans

theyre so luscious im just gonna luxuriate in them shits

haha nah it's cool, i just don't think i'll be climbing into any dad jeans soon

feel like dad jeans are more abt the cut, tho obvs the color factors in too

i love the truly insane things in barney's warehouse like this coat.

yeah they carry a p funny mix of stuff

http://i.imgur.com/OqmFsIi.jpg

it's kind of sad to see things like that coat consigned to an outlet, like, i'm sure its designer was so proud of it

ok wtf is that

that shit is glorious

http://i.imgur.com/2WfRI7S.png

do we need a FUN SUITS thread now?

nice haul joe

thx buddy

lagoon yr gonna look fly imo

p sure you should have bought the weird digi-camo trousers to go with that shirt though, yr gonna regret that later

SUPER anal is keeping your measurements in an evernote doc so you always have them available on your phone, not that i know anyone who does that

― max, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 16:16 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

txt file in his dropbox is what i heard some loser does

its really the perfect look xp

i kind of have an irrational thing against slim fit shirts, shit is gauche imo. proper tucking will sort most things fine

that's what i tell myself when i attempt to cram in this xl ralph lauren forest green corduroy button down i rly like anyway

a shirt thats just like vaguely the same size as ones torso i think is what most people are going for

http://trendkin.com/blog/how-to-do-the-military-tuck/

unflattering photos but u get the drift

tailor can also have shirts darted if u really insist

idk i tend to buy 90% second-hand so maybe i'm just less demanding / go for a more classic silhouette

obvs weve gone pretty far toward things being super tight and fitted and im sure things will swing back the other way, like steven alan is selling 'tradiational fit suits' as we speak, but i think generally just having something that is m/l the right shape reguardless of whether its tight or loose is not too much to ask, i mean the thing abt the military tuck is its designed for a uniform which by definition is not tailored

is "every shirt that I've got based on neck size has been voluminous everywhere else" rly a common complaint then

ya

its getting better but for a while there my lord

military tuck is fine if you're wearing a jacket and not taking it off--was fine at my wedding.

but in a biz cazh environment where your jacket comes off that pooling in the back still sucks. it's the voluminous mall shirt fit designed for large americans.

business casual prob just best to wear cutoffs and a half tank

sad but true ;_;

yr office mates will be all who is that dynamic individual

Jeff--just do Trunk Club, like all the other tech dudes in our fair city. I have a few friends who have gone from hack-a-thon t-shirts to looking sharp.

I've considered it, but so expensive.

obvs weve gone pretty far toward things being super tight and fitted and im sure things will swing back the other way

reading the military tuck how-to where theyre like 'obviously everyone understands that you should get well-tailored shirts that fit your body' was sort of lol since i feel like the thing rn is too have oversized, boxy tops that hang loose around the torso although obv if you work at like a law firm or w/e you arent showing up at work with an 80s ralph lauren pastel dress shirt two sizes too big hanging untucked but yknow

all the boutiquey scandinavian shit i see these days feels and fits about a size too big

i've def fallen into the oversize, baggy top and skinny bottoms thing without entirely intending to, i remember two or three summers ago i bought a bunch of ugly 90s boxy, pleated shorts from thrift shops and everyone made fun of me, even tho it was kind of a 'look' i never felt super comfortable with it but i dont mind with dress shirts or sweaters and particularly t-shirts. obv theres a comfort level there, esp in the summer, but i think its interesting how odd i thought i looked in the sort of shorts that would've been entirely unobjectionable in the 90s

It's amazing how much my confidence level shoots up when I have a nice fitting shirt. Like at least 47%.

yes

haha lamp's pleated shorts post is totally me this summer. i'm really enjoying it tho, feels baller to break from skinny orthodoxy

i actually also picked up a pair of pleated chinos (that basically look like hammer pants) which i meant to roll up to the ankle to wear out but i kept chickening out in the end

i hate baggy top and skinny bottoms though so

xp do it while it's seasonally valid. i bought cropped pants from uniqlo this year and they were great.

feel like baggy top and skinny bottoms has been an option for a long time but its kinda more an advance move

the thing w like a shirt that fits good and flat front pants that fits good is it represents an improvement in the baseline understanding of how to be, obvs if yuore a cool dude you can do whatever you want

Yesterday I asked a guy who came into my work where he got his denim jacket from because I really liked it - it was kinda loose and boxy in shape and looked really good on him. It was a jacket from the ladies section of Lands End. So now I am currently having an internal debate about how threatened my masculinity would feel buying a woman's coat, and if I were to, what size it would need to be to fit me.

yea or nay?

http://goodhoodstore.com/assets/products/4895/MENS_TOPS_SS13_147.jpg

Is the detail dragonflies? It's pretty, uh, "FUN" and I'd feel weird wearing it down the pub but with the right attitude I'd say it's pullable-offable. Not sure jeans are the right choice to accompany it though.

is there a bigger pic where i can see the pattern? i wish it had fewer buttons and would also be curious where you'd see yrself wearing it.

From here:

http://goodhoodstore.com/assets/products/4895/GARBSTORE_SS13_075.jpg

ah, thanks.

its an interesting pattern if you feel you can pull it of. i do think it buttons too high.

Yeah four buttons is a bit weird actually, not tried it IRL. I think I could wear it casually enough really.

My friends are open minded

My colleagues less so

so i am looking for a couple of things for autumn i wanted to throw out to the group.

first i really want a fall weight jacket, preferably dark green, waist length, just something for 40/50 degree weather that is nice and casual but with some style. i haven't even seen anything that fits what i'm looking for tbh.

second, a pair of dark brown boots with a kind of rugged/outdoorsy vibe that will look good with jeans. i think i am going to pick up these because they're about 50 bucks:

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q782/braudimusprime/ScreenShot2013-08-12at24648PM_zps693b7f59.png

and i currently can't afford my dream version of them:

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q782/braudimusprime/ScreenShot2013-08-12at25000PM_zpsb9b9cb4e.png

any ideas on something else that would fit the bill?

I desperately want a pair of shorts made out of the fabric from LG's jacket

yeah it's actually a great fabric for shorts now that you mention it

Like those second boots.

ya 2nd boots are baller

I am still very lol90s and my first impulse was to look up a Dr Martens analogue

i like the first boots way more than the second

2nd boots seem neither rugged nor outdoorsy. first ones are more cad appropriate imo. also, go to barbour on newbury for the jacket, they made a business out of p much exactly what you're looking for. oh yeah, you'll need 400 dollars.

despise the 2nd boots tbh

keep it coming guys, i'd love to be talked out of them

1st are not bad but kinda... overly mannered?

for 50 bucks tho it's a goer

yeah, exactly re: 50 bucks. they are on their way. i'm a *little* concerned about the quality since i haven't fucked with lands end in a long time but we'll see.

think i'm gonna get these come winter

http://product.nuji.com/large/125eb62e-c3e7-444a-ac1f-f91303504339.jpg

yeah idk about the new stuff either but old lands end is good stuff

I can't justify getting any footwear at the moment because I've been inheriting lightly-worn running shoes from a friend who trains marathoners and, as a result, buys shoes that he wears like three times before giving them away. I literally have 7 pairs currently in rotation, including two pair of the exact same shoe.

i agree w/ rtc's last few posts

xp lol free shoes, awesome. what size are you? i bet you have small feet, you are nimble like a small footed dude.

my only experience with lands end is work shirts but i can def vouch for those, i have several right now

Apparently distance shoes size up; in normal shoes I wear a 9 but all of these are 10 1/2, which have the side-effect of making most of them the most comfortable Nike running shoes I've ever worn (nb I'm never, ever running in any of these)

lg the black rubber sole feels a little clashy/out of place to me with that leather but otherwise you could kick some ass in those

i think it is a dark brown sole?

i actually recently bought proper running shoes solely (pun intended) for comfort, and cos i think i have kinda messed up my feet walking a lot in unsuitable footwear. they are the greatest things, i am so happy.

feel like baggy top and skinny bottoms has been an option for a long time but its kinda more an advance move

― lag∞n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:20 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ive always though this was a good look after watching jamc vids

i feel like the boxy voluminous dress shirt looks good with high waisted pants, you get this nice exactly square silhouette, and if the fabric drapes well it can look really clean

agree. baggy top skinny bottoms is very classic.

you button up that top up all the way and you're good

i am a big fan of the invisible tie

I'm going to a thing tomorrow night and have been instructed to quote "dress to impress" unquote. WTF does that mean, really?

http://www.dvice.com/sites/dvice/files/styles/content_panes_media/public/images/Iron-Man-literal-costume.jpg?itok=g5SSQCGA

Tempting, but it would needlessly obscure my spandex zentai suit, ball gag and propeller beanie.

want to buy a new navy blazer for a wedding i'm going to this week, and for general wear after, it's incredibly hard to find something without a dumb extra pocket or a silly gimmicky design quirk. any tips, anyone?

considering this one tho i've not gone to an IRL shop to try it on yet:

http://www.oki-ni.com/outerwear/our-legacy-men-s-navy-soft-canvas-three-button-rolling-blazer-ole1803nvy.html

it's pricey enough but i know a good navy blazer will be something i wear repeatedly, for years.

do you mean blazer in the english sense (double breasted, different coloured buttons)? or are you just looking for a blue, slightly casual jacket?

can't you just get a suit jacket?

yeah, if you just want a more formal navy jacket then the theres quite a few to choose from - i have a surface to air one i really like that seems like it would fit yr general style and requirements. their classic two button jacket is quite nice but they're also doing a p handsome one button one this season that i'm considering, despite the fact that i doubt i will ever wear it

i have a single button blue jacket that has become one of my goto garments

one button, so baller

it has tiny white dots on it tho so its vv casual

jackets really seem like the kind of thing you need to try on in person

well you can always return it

if you know yr size and can ascertain the general cut you can make a good guess

tbh i don't really understand what a blazer in this sense is, except a blue suit jacket without its trousers. is it just slightly more deconstructed cut, cotton mix rather than wool?

btw that rag and bone jacket i bought totally doesnt fit me and is unreturnable if anyone wants to make me an offer lol

actually it kinda fits just doesnt look quite right

ty joe for proving my point! ;-)

haha

i had a good run before that tho

anyway maybe just dont buy it on final sale

i am looking for a sports jacket for teaching. should have bought that in the uk though. situation here is either $$$ or men's wearhouse nerdy.

have you gone to suit supply? i haven't but have heard that it may be worth checking out

actually I just went to their website and don't like any of their jackets :-/

if we assume $500-800 brooks bros is out of my range, anywhere else i should be looking to get that look?

miss u oxford...

xp thanks

yo lagoon what size is yr unreturnable jacket

42, i paid $200

its $700 retail iirc

i have had good luck w suit supply so far, am about to buy a tux from them, will update.

who's actually purchased a suit/suits in nyc, and how much did you pay?
I need at least one more suit. I bought a j crew thing (brown suit, slightly lighter weight) that probably came to $500-600 or so, but had to have a lot of tailoring done on it (for about $100), and it's still just not quite right.
I want a dark grey or navy suit in a more conservative cut. but I'm tall and have no shoulders. nothing fits that well.
:(

I guess I wanted to ask if anyone's done suitsupply for one thing.
but I worry that their suits might tend to have that too-small look to the jackets that has also been the trouble for me with j crew.

depends on your sizing. i'm on the small side, and years ago i bought a suit from APC on Mercer that is still the most perfect fitting suit I've ever worn. still going strong after 7 years. don't know what their stuff is like now, though.

tbh i don't really understand what a blazer in this sense is, except a blue suit jacket without its trousers. is it just slightly more deconstructed cut, cotton mix rather than wool?

― caek, Monday, August 19, 2013 4:12 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

blazer is i think a more specific term than sportcoat. it seems like blazer should maybe be confined to the solid navy/metal button garment, but there's a whole world of sportcoats including navy ones.

there are tons of suits at macys, most of them are prob pretty blah but you can find some cool stuff too, bloomingdales etc likewise

yeah i think this might be a british/american thing

blazer means the thing w the shiny buttons in america too i think

a bit pricey for me, but I might take a look. been thinking of just going through suits at bloomingdales too.
I found an amazing burberry suit at a consignment shop yesterday for $350, but I just couldn't commit without knowing how easily it would be able to be tailored. the arms and chest were definitely a bit too wide.
did I blow it?
xxxpost

i dont think there is like an official difference between blazer, sportcoat and suit jacket

and I know you're supposed to get the arms dead on, but my tailor took in the arms on the j crew suit?

"my tailor"

"took in" as in made them narrower or shorter?

hmmm

42R or 42S? that has the potential to look too baggy on me unless it's S

just a plain ol 42

cv - suit width is the hardest thing to tailor, so you did right in passing it up

I mean, the chest

argh, that's gonna be too big for me ;_;

brb, growing 4 inches and eating a pie

tbh i don't really understand what a blazer in this sense is, except a blue suit jacket without its trousers. is it just slightly more deconstructed cut, cotton mix rather than wool?

suit jackets tend to fit differently ime - like i have a few nice suits but if i wore the jacket with chinos or jeans it'd look weird. a blazer and a sports jacket are kinda interchangeable to me tho i'd have said sports jacket was more used to describe more patterned pieces.

didn't know blazer in english sense meant double breasted.

shoulders are the hardest i think! i was told the only thing that really matters is getting the shoulders right

made the shoulders narrower. also made the armholes smaller.
as I understand it.
lengthened the sleeves.

trouble is I need like a 38 long, which never exists. this tailor seemed to suggest that if I get something too big (so at least the jacket is the right length), he could narrow the correct parts.

xpost

pretty sure "sport coat" is, by defn, single breasted for manoeuvrability when shooting pheasant/reading blogs. other than that, yeah, no idea.

suit jackets are different insofar as they are actually made as part of a suit ie with a matching pair of pants made from the same fabric? but i dont think theres like an official Tailors Union this is how a suit jacket fits and this is how a sportcoat fits

the problem is that if I get an off the shelf jacket with the shoulders right on, it probably means the whole jacket is too short.

once you're getting up to 600-700 + tailoring it might be time to start looking at m2m?

yeah cv i was gonna say, having met you in person you might need to go the m2m route

shoulders are the hardest i think! i was told the only thing that really matters is getting the shoulders right

― max, Monday, August 19, 2013 4:40 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah there is no jacket in the world that fits me off the rack so i have to get everything tailored but this is what i aim for

i am also a 38/36 and all the jackets that fit on me would look ridiculous on you cv!

dyao did you ever do m2m in HK?

I would google "m2m" but I somehow suspect I would not find what you guys are talking about

ok follow up: anyone know how much that starts to cost? I mean if I had to splurge but got something very ideal in return (that I could use forever), I'd consider it.

suit jackets are different insofar as they are actually made as part of a suit ie with a matching pair of pants made from the same fabric? but i dont think theres like an official Tailors Union this is how a suit jacket fits and this is how a sportcoat fits

no, agreed. tho i think with more trad suits the jackets don't work quite so well on their own, whereas with more modern or hipster brands the suit jacket tends to be cut so they can sell it on its own.

m2m
http://imageshack.us/a/img715/3959/000ba83amedium.jpg

caek - yeah, i had 2 suits done by a pair of tailor twins

one of my suit pants got scratched up by my brother's cat, and the suit jacket is now a blazer/sprot coat/whatever. the jacket fits great, though, and i don't really want to go out and deal with the hassle of trying to find another good fitting suit since it's a pain in the ass. is there any way you can get like ... color/fabric matching for pants??? all of my attempts have led to slightly mismatched color combos.

cv i only know of indochino because steve nash advertises for them, but i think you can probably keep it under 800? dunno if you could get a 'classic' cut from them tho

i know people who get theirs made in the uk but they pay like £1500-2000, which is apparently about as cheap as london non-hotel-indian/hk tailoring gets

pro-tip: if you love the jacket and it fits well and you want to wear it for a long time/every day: buy two pairs of trousers.

ah I get it, m2m is sort of a cheaper alternative to bespoke.

doing a little research now.

Spectrum, my understanding is that, due to the mercurial output of weaving techniques, it is nigh-impossible to find a matching pair of pants for an orphaned jacket or vice versa.

there are places in nyc now iirc that do the indochino thing where they have their stuff made in asia but they have showrooms where you can go in and get measured and look at fabrics and cuts

I know about indochino, just always seemed like a pretty big risk.

xxp yeah, i was afraid of that :{

ah xpost

i have the black lapel shirt i ordered but i havent opened it yet

the generally agreed upon top HK tailors start at about Ł850 for basic fabric. you can go as low as Ł400 though with it still turning out ok. this is for hk

i mean, 400 pounds at other, non-top HK tailors

yeah m2m you will generally be picking from a smaller range of fabrics, and you can't do arbitrary things with pockets/lining

bespoke they will give you enough rope to hang yourself (see e.g. my dad's wedding suit)

pro-tip: if you love the jacket and it fits well and you want to wear it for a long time/every day: buy two pairs of trousers.

― caek, Monday, August 19, 2013 4:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

the tailor twins tried to hardsell me on this but i was like, i'm only ever gonna wear your nice suit at interviews and stuff

you shouldve demanded that each of them make one of the pairs

wait so if it starts at 850, how much does it end up costing with labor etc?

xp as twins i'd imagine they work on the same garments where they start at opposite ends and finish it when they both reach the middle

don't care too much about pockets/lining, just want a good fit!

DJP - 850 pounds (or about 1300 USD) is all in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHW5_Kc2XmY

their names are johnny and bonny

ahhhh I misread your symbol, I thought you were saying 850 HK dollars, not 850 pounds

I was about to do a massive happy dance and order suits I didn't need

johnny and bonny tactical eagle

my mac doesn't do the L thingy when i hold the L key down

argh, that's gonna be too big for me ;_;

brb, growing 4 inches and eating a pie

― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, August 19, 2013 4:40 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

naw man you look beautiful in this jacket trust me

this looks interesting: http://mrnednyc.com/

opt-3 for a £ on a us mac keyboard iirc

cv, a lot of the hk tailors will do 'tours' in the US where you go to a hotel, they take yer measurements, and mail you a suit 4 months later

you used to find out about those guys in the UK from their adverts in the financial times

this guy was on anthony bourdain's show - looks like he's coming to nyc soon http://simpsonsintailor.com.hk/travel_itinerary

i dont think there is like an official difference between blazer, sportcoat and suit jacket

lol thread of missing gabbneb

w/o doing any google detective work the two main differences btw a suit jacket and a blazer are the cut of the jacket and the weight of the cloth? and then sportscoats are just like tacky blazers iirc/not worn for yachting

ok tossing HK tailor in the list of possibilities too

disagree with that.

the "sport" in sportscoat is shooting, so they're more often brown or melange, more often heavyweight, and i think necessarily single breasted

"A blazer is similar to a sports coat, and is tailored from solid color or striped fabrics. Blazers are often made with metal buttons reflecting their origins in the sport of boating, though this is not necessarily a defining feature. Blazers also often have patch pockets, unlike other kinds of coats.[2][3]"

the "sport" in sportscoat is shooting, so they're more often brown or melange, more often heavyweight, and i think necessarily single breasted

a lot of plaid more colourful plaid type pieces seem to be called sportscoats too.

yeah, plaid too. in the uk generally patterns/brown/melange/check = country, and country = sports

no brown in town

once heard an oxford professor pronounce that brown suits are for shooting or working in indian restaurants

dang

oxford not paying the bills eh

yeah there are "typical" differences but not An Official Way To Tell Which Is Which

blazer is heavier, usually more uniform-y, i.e. metal buttons; sportcoat is the least formal, wackier fabrics/patterns allowed; suit jacket is the jacket from an actual suit and has a corresponding pair of pants

but w/e, nothing means anything

just be really handsome and wear only the t-shirts you get for free from yr work + levis 501s - mensstyle 2013

rn im in the mood to just buy a lot of black jeans and black tees and only wear them every day forever

i was gonna do that this summer but i only stuck w/ the black jeans

instead i bought a pair of comedy glasses and some button ups from japan. terrible

http://www.surfacetoair.com/project/public/media/store/product/023900/p23929_1_51e110b51a5c5.jpg

me, contemplating the brass button life

blazer is heavier, usually more uniform-y, i.e. metal buttons; sportcoat is the least formal, wackier fabrics/patterns allowed; suit jacket is the jacket from an actual suit and has a corresponding pair of pants

― max, Monday, August 19, 2013 5:30 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the most useful way to think about it! who cares what's "official." basically, the ideal sportcoat should not lead anyone to think it has a matching pair of pants lying around somewhere. so grey/navy solid worsted is a bad call as a sportcoat because it ends up looking like you lost your suit pants.

i'm glad we were able to help ronan find a jacket

i liked the one he posted, seemed like a less fitted / darted cut which i dig

i tried the jacket again i will maybe keep it it needs some tailoring im not sure ill prob just keep it in my closet for a while then maybe sell it on ebay, the black lapel shirt fits good and it a pretty standard white dress shirt with maybe some slight details that are not the coolest in the world but w/e i will wear it to two weddings soon

LG: one not-so-hip but good value/quality option would be Austin Reed - they have a couple of navy jackets at heavy discounts, e.g.

http://www.austinreed.co.uk/fcp/product/austinreed/Blazers-and-Jackets/Regular-Fit-Navy-Herringbone-Jacket/12392
http://www.austinreed.co.uk/fcp/product/austinreed/Blazers-and-Jackets/Nick-Hart-Navy-Seersucker-Blazer/12367

oh man i was googling around re m2m and i found this fascinating blog which i had stumbled upon before and read like the whole thing of - its a style blog but completely un hip - just like for stando middle age guys who really like to dress

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--6mtp2tM1L8/Ugwok9DJT7I/AAAAAAAAMDY/Ch5bXwEbHS8/s400/will-7-17+knit+tie.jpg

http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com

yeah i read that guy he's hilarious

yeah that guy owns

i've been reading a 600-page thread on conservative business suit/shirt/tie/pocket square combos on styleforum, its a good time

lol that ASW dude and super trad styleforum dudes are all such disgusting swine, kill them all imho

sometimes I think it's more rewarding for me to read about this stuff all the time and **imagine** that I'm super well dressed, than to actually attempt it and live in disappointment

the sad part is SOME trad menswear blogs are well researched and actually have a great wealth of knowledge about textile and craft, but that knowledge is used almost exclusively for the purposes of the most odious and gratuitous class distinction, like these are people who use the word proles without the slightest hint of irony

yeah i guess i feel more "let 'em have their lil hobby" than you but there is something uncomfortable abt it

haha well fair enough these are kind of my pet subjects tbh

yeah no you're def closer to it than i am

i'm glad we were able to help ronan find a jacket

i liked the one he posted, seemed like a less fitted / darted cut which i dig

haha - i got this our legacy one in the end.

http://www.other-shop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/o/u/ourlegacyblazer.jpg

it was £350 but i am fairly sure i'll be wearing it for years. the shop are gonna shorten the sleeves a tiny bit but it was a nice fit other than that.

it's v similar to the one i posted but irl that was v wooly and i already have a quite heavy kenzo double breasted wool blazer i got on ebay, plus this wedding on sat could be hot.

while i was at the shop i also saw this which i thought was kinda cool, might consider it deeper into winter. bit more romulan emperor than my normal garb.

http://www.other-shop.com/stephan-schneider-alpaca-stripe-cardigan.html

this is what i mean when i say blazer btw

http://www.jpressonline.com/classic-trim-fit-blazer-flannel-wool-midnight-navy-3b/

xxp that looks p. classic, should serve you well.

Awfully heavy for a "cardigan" but I would totally love that in my wardrobe.

ya imna go ahead and call that a jacket, p dope tho

correct, also romulan emporer is a v admirable style to emulate, v fashion

love the material, loathe what they made of it

Elasticated waistband

haha no

my new winter schlump about the house/get covered in chalk dust so i look like a dissolute teacher item: shawl collar linen cardigan. $66 from $200 in the club monaco sale

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=78423758

it weighs about 5 lb

i dont really f w cardigans but i think id like a deconstructed wool 'sport coat' w a shawl collar thats like almost a cardigan

cardigans like mine look great until you stand up imo

caek that looks nice. is it big and slouchy

i can't pull off a cardigan :(

imo the appealing thing about cardigans is that no one can

you go for the biggest, ugliest slouchiest ones

i had a couple grunge cagrigans when i was a teen

one of them even had maybe a safety pin holding up a detaching strip of suede

this is prob why im injured to cardingans

i have a big grey wool shawl-collared cardigan that i use as a shacket, it is very baggy and loose. i have to shave it every couple of weeks because it pills so bad.

i am p into crew neck wool sweaters rn tho, this summer has been really mild and i like wearing sweaters in the evenings, sweaters + shorts is my favorite thing to wear ever

im a long time crew neck sweater partisan

i find a v neck a bit easier to pull off if you are less ripped. it also works better under a jacket.

grey sports jacket, burgundy v neck, white oxford = all time.

but i do own crew necks, don't get me wrong!

just want to be clear, i have nothing against them

ok were cool

feel like you gotta be a skinny dude to not look bad in a sweater and shorts. w/ no real basis i am absolutely certain you are a skinny dude lamp so i am sure you look great.

i am terrified by the thought of leaving the house in a sweater and shorts

lamp is def skinny and looks good in sweater n shorts i think we can all agree

wait by not-skinny do we mean larger chap or just regular here

i feel like there could be a pluggers about this

i was thinking skinny aka slighter than average

agree. i'm average (modulo a vv cute little beer belly) and i don't think it would be a flattering look.

i may be conflating this with british aversion to shorts (i.e. something you force a child to wear, not something an adult wears).

nice shorts nice sweater, can't see why the average man wouldnt look fine

feel like this would be a p cool look for a bearish aging frat boy

i thought all britishers only wore pants and nothing else

dont the english wear kilts tho

i love it when burly dudes wear cute shorts because it's cute and also: thighs

this is what i am wearing today, would appreciate feedback

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a483/andreamp8/Famous/beefater_zps5061b55e.jpg

wow GISing 'sweater shorts' brings up lots of sexy ladiez

male people's aversion to shorts is the weirdest thing to me. legs & ass are the biggest muscle groups and a lot of guys have great legs & butts that they cover up because... why??

men! show me your legs! they look great!

lol yes i was just making that discovery xp

to agree with caek, i am usually looking for an excuse to not wear shorts, whereas the local mentality seems to be the reverse. like, i can convince myself it is not shorts weather outside if i have my a/c high.

i wear shorts sometimes but only ones that cover my butt

im pretty shorts adverse but if its hot enough then i do

my buttocks are enormous

good 2 know

go on

haha

that is an argument against shorts for me.

haha actual sweater shorts are def a babe thing

i like shorts a lot but i think its a nerd thing, spending a significant amount of time with nerds has taught that almost no weather is bad enough to not wear shorts in, esp if they are cargo shorts convenient for carrying around lots of extra things in. the weird corollary to this is its never hot enough not to wear multiple layers of tops that you are constantly having to shrug off

fwiw i do not like layers very much rn, i am always trying to wear as few things as possible

mnml sci-fi outfits

^ i was gonna make a post abt cargo shorts

I love shorts. Would wear all the time.

i like shorts but sweater + shorts is too temp-confused for me.

on the cardigan stuff imo if you find the right simple and nicely cut one they are amazing, look great with shirts and like a casual set-up for some print or whatever, but it is incredibly hard to find basic ones that are good. i have one i got in cos about two years ago and it's retained quality really well for the price.

agree the romulan emperor thing is prob a jacket, which is good given the price really. the shot from the back makes it look quite baggy but i still reckon it looks a really unique thing for the winter, would be amazing surrounded with basics.

bought a sport jacket from suit supply, thanks for the tip.

this one

http://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Jackets/large/Jackets_Blue_Plain_Havana_C705_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

decided not to go for the cargo pants.

also no raiders of the lost ark nazi shades either.

you went to the store in soho?

yes

Many years ago I owned a hand-me-down Ralph Lauren men's shawl collar cardigan with suede elbow patches in a rich brown melange. My friend Paul admired it greatly and he was (and is) v v professorial, so the woman who would become his wife asked if I would swap it to her for things out of her vintage goth Ophelia wardrobe so she could give it to him for his birthday. I agreed. I no longer own any of the things she swapped me for, but he still has that cardigan.

also no raiders of the lost ark nazi shades either.

lol I have Oliver People's shades that are basically this

hope whoever styled that guy in the pic recovers from their stroke

The Suit Supply pics are all hilarious. It's beyond Bateman, everyone captured in the middle of a fucking giant stride like they're doing the splits.

heh i can kind of sympathise tbh, i find it impossible to wear a suit without turning evil

http://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Suits/zoom/Suits_Grey_Stripe_Lazio_P3743_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

yessss

suit + pyjamas in one handy package

that model's srsly the best at it, really got the disdain going

Does anyone store their sunglasses that way? Surely lenses and the whole thing in the pocket is standard?

http://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Suits/medium/Suits_Light_Brown_Check_Lazio_P3651_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

http://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Suits/medium/Suits_Pink_Plain_Soho_P3699_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

http://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Suits/medium/Suits_Blue_Plain_Sevilla_P3481_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

http://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Suits/medium/Suits_Grey_Stripe_Washington_P3409_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

not to imgbomb like

xp a master of the universe will do as he pleases

Experience sartorial bliss with our masterfully crafted collection of personally tailored suits.

i've never seen this enterprise before, it's p cheap? is it like moss bros 2.0

suit entrepreneurs have found out abt globalization

all those shots are so uniformly brightly lit in every place, reminds me of like, charcoal drawings of suits from the early 1900s?

The whole site is mega-creepy, like for people who want to "win" at menswear. The shops are creepy too. I think some of the clothes are cool and their bespoke options look good but I've never bought anything due to the store being so dependent on you wanting some dude to talk at you for the duration of your purchase.

i dunno i've heard folks rep for suit supply but it just feels like downmarket trendfucking trying to look neapolitan

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb67/lugger91/ScreenShot2013-07-27at102847PM_zpsd6a6d81e.png

hell no

it's a weird approach, for sure

but if the jacket fits, wear it

i had to kind of write off suitsupply after checking the about us on their site:

Suitsupply is a market defining brand showing strong international growth.

We are pioneers at everything we do, and we work hard to keep it that way. Our pioneering spirit generates a contagious energy, which is what enables us to keep putting new ideas into practice.

Our strength lies in our formula: straight, to the point and still personal. Fast and effective. Combining craftsmanship with flair.

There are few things that distract us. This approach enables us to create an environment in which our customers feel that we only have eyes for them. We are there for people who want to be seen.

elmo, is that a denim suit? it looks like a denim suit

also their pants seem to have a default 7" leg opening which would look preposterous on me and leads me to believe their default sizing is some super-slim nonsense that i could never fit into.

I went to Famous Footwear this weekend and discovered they were doing a buy one, get one half off sale and bought two pairs of the same shoe for absolutely no reason and then had to buy clothes to match them because I have a problem:

http://www.colorshoesark.com/images/color/men%20shoes/145/shoes_ia94528_01.jpg
http://www.colorshoesark.com/images/color/men%20shoes/70/shoes_ia94523_01.jpg

DAN THAT IS A DENIM FUCKING SUIT

jesus that's horrifying and I want one

if the occasion were right i would wear a denim suit tbh

(seriously what is happening to me, I thought your clothing tastes were supposed to become more sensible as you got older, not less)

well i mean i wear out the crotches of my 501s with clockwork regularity, i can only imagine that the crotch of a light drapey jean trouser fabric would essentially disintegrate on contact

http://www.ivstatic.com/files/et/imagecache/636/files/slides/Britney-Spears-Justin-Timberlake-Red-Carpet.jpg

elmo, what do you do with your otherwise-good jeans after the crotch/thigh area is history? I have all these pairs piling up.

if i ever move down south im definitely getting a denim suit

make a suit out of em xp

what do you do with your otherwise-good jeans after the crotch/thigh area is history

make a rag rug out of em? idk, i've never figured it out

turn them into a denim kilt

if you're gonna do a denim suit just go all out hayseed and make coordinating tailored overalls & a jacket w/ a pocket for shotgun shells

just stop pretending you're god's gift to pitti uomo

supposedly u can mend yr jeans if you catch the rip early enough, maybe u do this idk ive never been so enterprising, seems like the fabric gets so thin and worn it wouldnt make a difference idk

Oh I have patched and patched, don't think I didn't. The only ones that lasted were when I used suede instead of fabric.

fuck now i want tailored overalls, what did i do to myself

huh interesting xp

suit supply is kind of like a pile-em-high sell-em-cheap-but-not-terribly-cheap version of the menswear section of somewhere like reiss. the stuff is way more on trend than department store/moss bros type stuff, e.g. the lapels are not 3/4" wide there like it's still season 2 of mad men/a wedding i went to in sheffield in 2008. the range is actually tiny. like 4 basic cuts, 10 fabrics/colours, extremely limited trouser options. the main thing is free alterations (i think? turns out i could basically be the dummy for their 38R jackets, so i didn't need them), and the staff i spoke to definitely knew what they were doing more than elsewhere.

as long as you don't actually look like one of their models/choose one of the nuttier colours i think you're going to come out looking presentable in a business environment.

obviously the styling on the website makes them look like sociopaths though.

yeah i mean i get that the marketing is abhorrent but especially with something like suits where even somebody w/ a trained eye might not be able to tell a brooks brothers from a mens wearhouse if both have been tailored or just happen to fit the wearer - if you think it looks good on you and the price is right, go with god imo

ok, i need some menswear help. i have 1,000 spectrum bux to spend and i need a new wardrobe. is this enough for some reasonably decent clothes? what are some good places to get an updated look? i haven't bought new clothes in about two years so i'm beyond out of the loop. not looking for fashion forward or anything, but don't want old navy crap either. something contemporary that fits smaller dudes that doesn't cost $190 (or "£"120) per piece

what kind of clothes do you like?

hmmm... i should probably figure that one out first. i want a new look but i have zero idea what to go for.

http://cdn1.cdnme.se/cdn/7-2/2033559/images/2011/turtleback_131783199.jpghttp://31.media.tumblr.com/avatar_958e2468ae3d_128.pnghttp://statics.suitsupply.com/images/products/Suits/zoom/Suits_Grey_Stripe_Lazio_P3743_Suitsupply_Online_Store_1.jpg

that is awful

suitsupply always looks simultaneously smug and cheap to me, like the guy you know who dropped out of your college but thinks he is hot shit now because he has a sales job and leases a BMW SUV

lol schlump

hmmm... i should probably figure that one out first. i want a new look but i have zero idea what to go for.

― Spectrum, Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do you need clothes for work? for weekends and after work? for special occasions?

i feel like i sound like a sega genesis fan here but...

a single breasted charcoal suit supply suit is excellent value

the single breasted havana sports jackets are fine in pretty much every colour except pink and white (wtf?), and the one i just bought is pretty much the best non-uk-second-hand sports jacket i've ever bought

they definitely have a problem with jacket length, and they need to stop hiring models who look like they have a chromosome problem

Does anyone own a J. Crew suit? Are any of them doable for relatively conservative professional settings? Supposedly on material and construction for the price they get very high marks.

i have a jcrew suit, its pretty conservative

especially if you get the regular not skinny pants

overall p good suit experience would recomend

very conserve

so style

wow

was at a wedding the other weekend and it felt like two out of three guys i saw were wearing j crew ludlow suits. they looked good tho, fabric was decent, cuts were conservative but not unhip

if i had to get a suit id probably get one of those, $600 is a great price, the only hesitation being how many yung urban creative professionals apparently have one as their only suit

couldnt u guys just fancy a straight suit up with like yknow ties/shirts/socks/squares etc instead of frowning on stuff that doesnt come with some gimmicky twist

that statement goes for most things itt tbrr

whos demanding gimmicks!

idk man yall are kinda drawling 'conservative' here like its a suboptimal thing

ur projecting

I got a j crew suit. fabric is nice, style is nice. if anything I would have preferred a slightly more conservative cut but it's not too too hip.
I think the guy who helped me was unhelpful though. I suspected it wasn't the right fit but was talked into getting it and, turns out, it wasn't the right fit.
for this reason I'd like to try someplace else when I next get a suit, as mentioned above.

think I'm swearing off buying a new suit for awhile though.

idk man yall are kinda drawling 'conservative' here like its a suboptimal thing

conservative does not mean classic.

idk man yall are kinda drawling 'conservative' here like its a suboptimal thing

― r|t|c, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:30 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think in max's post conservative was meant to be a good thing! like, you could wear the suit to a more formal wedding or funeral or job interview (non-"creative" category).

i only even brought it up b/c hurting asked

yeah wait what, the whole point is that I want a conservative suit for work (that doesn't cost $1000+ and also doesn't look like a potato sack).

The last one I bought was a Brooks Brothers Fitzgerald in their winter sale a couple years ago, and I was kind of disappointed -- the fabric doesn't hold that well, jacket is too long and btw their in house tailoring SUCKS

Another option seems to be those Black Brown suits they sell at Lord & Taylor -- anyone have experience with those?

did you get a S jacket?

other options for suits are banana republic, (i know i'm gonna get excoriated for this) top of the line jos. a banks suits, hart schaffner marx @ nordstrom

obv when they're on sale, of course

did you get a S jacket?

― 乒乓, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:46 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, I clearly should have though. The dude who sized me said I didn't need it.

i don't own a decent suit

i should be ashamed right

living a lie

haha i think we're roughly the same size - department store people have always recommended me to get the S

don't let a poorly dressed j crew salesman sell you a jacket that's too small. from the website you can tell they dig jackets that are too small.

Hart Schaffner Marx does make decent suits -- I actually owned one but I was much fatter at the time so I wound up donating it when I lost weight. IDK about Banana, and aren't the top Jos. A. Banks suits actually kind of expensive?

http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/hart-schaffner-marx

these seem pretty 'classic'

finding a good tailor is key. my friend seems to have pretty good luck with UES tailors

what about upthread when people were recommending cheaper bespoke or made to measure options?

top Jos A. Bank suits are "expensive" but it literally is impossible to pay sticker price at Jos A. Banks. i think they run sales, even on the top of the line stuff, that brings them down to reasonable levels every couple of months

this one still looks kind of interesting maybe: http://mrnednyc.com/

if you want to get your ivy league on, you can go to j. press (lol)

Another option seems to be those Black Brown suits they sell at Lord & Taylor -- anyone have experience with those?

― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:46 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i liked black brown shirts quite a bit before i got more particular about fit. not sure the quality will be up to what j. crew is offering but you can get some really good sales prices at l&t

i have a steven Alan suit i like, they can be k pricey but they also have a lot of sales, much of their stuff hits the sweet spot of not being overtly hip while still having a lot of taste

wish i had more occasion to wear my sick ass suits

i dont own a suit either, but when the heck would i ever wear one???? i have a couple nice shirts, slacks and jackets, can mix n match, works fine for me

come on u guys

wish i had more occasion to wear my sick ass suits

― lag∞n, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:08 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

me 2

i do sport the jackets more frequently

I get an additional 20% discount at jos a banks through my company. Lolawyers and their suits.

I still don't own a suit that fits me. I have one but it's way to big. I have a hard time buying one because I never wear one unless there is a funeral or I have a job interview.

what abt weddings

i've wondered if i would ever wear a suit day-to-day outside of a professional context

i don't think i would but it would be nice to have the option

I don't do suits at weddings. Nice shirt/pants only.

i'd be glad to wear a suit for the roughly one day/week i'm in the office, but culturally it just would not really be ok.

im going to weddings the next couple weekends and im going to wear SUITS

i've never been to an american wedding

from what i can tell from movies, people wear vince vaughn body suits

one of the weddings im going to is canadian, they just rub you all down w cheesey gravy i assume

I don't see how guys do suits every day in the summer. Just wearing a long sleeve shirt/undershirt/pants and I'm soaked in sweat after my walk to the train station in the morning. I would be a mess in a suit.

http://emeraldcloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/marni-for-Hm-2012-mens-shorts-suit.png

a photo of me in my summer suit w my backpack

i find suit pants / slacks are much cooler in the summer than even lightweight cotton jeans

then you throw on a seersucker jacket

I've been loving RRL's jeans and shirts. I keep thinking they will disappoint me next season, but they've stayed consistent have have improved. This year they have a japanese denim chino!
http://www.ralphlauren.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=11757743

I meant that they keep improving the quality of the jeans. Through the years, I've fallen in love with different brands of jeans and by a few seasons they change the quality and it goes downhill. Paper denim, Earnest Sewn, so many ones whose names I've forgotten, they all started out making great jeans, but it never lasted. I hope RRL keeps it going. Really perfect jeans if you wear boots and want raw denim.

sometimes i will wear a suit to dinner or something when it isnt strictly necessary but then i end up feeling vaguely ashamed of myself for still playing dress-up in my mid 20s

fuck suits let's all wear insane customized denim

http://vintage501s.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/2b-hopeton-morris1.jpg

http://vintage501s.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/15-ken-waters_1.jpg

I gave in and just re-upped my Dockers supply. I've realized that even though they are Dockers, they look a hell of a lot better than the unraveling, threadbare three year old ones I had been wearing.

No khaki, all dark.

http://www.oki-ni.com/outerwear/ymc-men-s-tartan-mac-ymc1800tar.html

i already have a mac but this is really cool i think, i prefer it collared down rather than with that funnel, but still.

yeah that collar is weird

looks like it buttons down normally in one of the shots.

Agree about the collar though I do like the style. I'd definitely want to try it irl before plonking down £££.

Though I guess you can send things back these days.

I just always forget and notice it six months later "oh yeah, that thing that never fit me".

Same, I like to look at things online then go to a shop with a better idea of what I want. Works well IMO.

want this suit btw - i'll start saving:

http://www.mrporter.com/product/383145

http://i.imgur.com/GbqMlNd.png

is this what goes through the minds of menswear dudes

haha that dude

(men that are aware)

i used to check that dude's blog just to infuriate myself but then i got drawn in to his whole bizarre world of idle rich australianness and smarmy bicycle-related hashtags and sycophantic relationships with, like, his random australian tailors and i started googling him to try and learn more and i was just in too deep.

he also posts pictures of his coffee every single fucking day.

want this suit btw - i'll start saving:

http://www.mrporter.com/product/383145

― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:29 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Will go well with your tartan mac! I have a policy of never looking at Mr Porter outside of sales time because it only makes me sad.

was cleaning out an old closet while visiting parents and found a shitload of crazy shirts from india

i get tempted by that kind of shit in my parents closet too + while out shopping in china

but 9/10 it makes me look like a fob

there should be a companion site to that accidental chinese hipsters tumblr, called accidental white FOBs

The first time you said "a fob" I thought, is that like a fop? Imma just read it like "fop."

I'm at a point in my life where I dont care about looking like a fob

there should be a companion site to that accidental chinese hipsters tumblr, called accidental white FOBs

― 乒乓, Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha yes u shd do it

No khaki, all dark.

― Jeff, 29 August 2013

good stephen king imo

also, go to barbour on newbury for the jacket, they made a business out of p much exactly what you're looking for. oh yeah, you'll need 400 dollars.

― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, August 12, 2013 3:48 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

after the painful discovery that every jacket i liked was either a) barbour, b) barbour for brand x, or c) knockoff barbour, i made the very awesome discovery that barbour's us hq and outlet store is 20 mins from my place of employment's n.h. office. copped a jacket today--$379 list, i paid $189.

great work dude, let's have a look then.

nice, i thought about getting a quilted barbour jacket last winter

one of those things that i like in principle but has too much baggage for me to wear (via class war)

think this came up before, i have a field jacket barbour - worth every penny.

yea caek otm

we dont have social classes in america fyi caek

He moved to NY to wear Barbours.

i am reading some trend pieces and wow

did you guys realize that apparently camouflage is gonna be one of the major trends for fall

also military inspired things

this is so exciting

so fresh

so new

i hate camo
you cant see people

I have the same instinctive bias against Barbour, also RL/Gant/etc - not that e.g. APC is unamenable to a similar analysis, the baggage there is just quite distant from my experience. xps

"Also, there were lots of military-inspired features coming out of the European shows this year. From epaulets to double-breasted officer coats to interesting uses of camo, there’s a sense of masculinity and ruggedness in the pieces."

A SENSE OF MASCULINITY AND RUGGEDNESS

epaulets are vile

combat trousers are vile

i quite like pea coats and in fact i own one

yea i just mean: stop trying to sell me the same old trends as new. also stop telling me that the military is fashionable.

we dont have social classes in america fyi caek

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:20 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was upper middle class back home so i'm definitely missing out here in your classless society : (

see i have no idea what that even means

Barbour vs Belstaff boils down to "do you want to look like The Queen or Steve McQueen?".

one of those things that i like in principle but has too much baggage for me to wear (via class war)

― caek, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:12 (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

prevailing off-putting baggage is currently that of the hipster surely

i would fully respect an actual rich young country person wearing a barbour if one was any longer to be found

yeah i *think* i get the class thing but basically i just wanted a jacket that i would own for 20 years that was not made of gross swishy nylon.

btw according to j. crew's fall looks the camo is in for ladies too.

if you don't *feel* the class thing it's not something you should care about imo

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q782/braudimusprime/C5FE4CD2-B4F1-4227-A417-9B48E1E2CBDC-6170-0000031D2936C83C_zps4b05a6f6.jpg

(l) summer, (r) fall

sweet

i would fully respect an actual rich young country person wearing a barbour if one was any longer to be found

Otm and I do have friends I feel can pull this off. I have one friend who can even make red trousers work but he's clearly opened them since lower 6th at Winchester.

Yeah for me it's about not wanting to feel my clothes are imposing an identity on myself that I'm not happy with. With some items/brands I can't shake the associations I have. I have two pairs of red trousers though.

lol at "I have two pairs of red trousers though."

prevailing off-putting baggage is currently that of the hipster surely

serious qn: are there still hipsters in lndn?

i have a pair of very nice brick red shorts i got at a skateshop in paris that ive been wearing all summer btw, recommended

Camo has been back for a few seasons now I notice, lol, sentences I thought I'd never say.

Still just makes me think of DJs, tho the odd more abstract camo print or accessory has almost tempted me.

On the barbour thing, definitely ubiquitous in east London but there are a lot of styles. I basically find that on a day when I'm not dressing more formally with mac or pea coat, they are really nice casual jackets.

Camo never left my rural southern family

it just got progressively more realisitic

i just wanted a jacket that i would own for 20 years

check your menswear privilege bro

j/k but i have never really signed on to the idea that as a man you build a wardrobe and that's pretty much that for the rest of your life

just talkin' but afaik nobody expects women to wear the same things when she's 25 as when she's 45

ya the problem w that whole concept is changing styles

like imagine wearing some lol hueg three button suit from the 90s now be srs

steve harvey seems to pull it off

you don't understand, this hugo boss suit is TIMELESS

j/k but i have never really signed on to the idea that as a man you build a wardrobe and that's pretty much that for the rest of your life

true, though some things have longevity. shoes in particular but some formal wear too.

i have a tshirt that says bermuda in sweet embroidering that i found in a free box 15 years ago but besides that i dont think theres much in my wardrobe that gets any sort of regular play that ive had for more than like five years

all points granted but i am talking about a fall jacket and i live in new england so i feel like that is something i should not really plan on needing to rebuy to respond to changing styles or w/e.

where is yr old fall jacket now

i never owned one! i would just wear hoodies and wait for winter.

haha

fall jackets are nice but they call it sweater weather for a reason

sweaters man

get into em

sweater plus jacket

foil clothing adapts to suit any season and never goes out of style

what, none of you guys grow a thick layer of down for the winter?

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lol at searching both trousers and pants

i am doubting my native spelling of 'reversable'... go back before it's too late caek.

maybe this will be the year i change how i dress

Capes

canapés

is it possible to wear a pocket square without looking like a menswear blogger/someone who does magic at house parties?

i like a pocket square now and again.

I haven't had money for new clothes for ages. When I wanted to be smart-casual I always used to wear smart jeans and a blazer but recently I've heard that described as 'doing a Clarkson' (trust Jeremy to ruin another fashion staple). So is this a no-no now? What else can I do?

think jeans and blazer is fine, only clarkson if they actually look like clarkson's jeans/blazer.

wearing a pocket square is pretty easy, you just fold it however & stuff it into your breast pocket and then you don't fuss with it. seriously, just leave it alone. try to forget it's there.

i think its generally best to avoid fussy poufs or elaborate pocket origami because they don't really stay in place IRL but its up to you, as long as it stays put and doesn't distract you then you're fine

i've been trying to figure out if its cool to go w/pocket square and no tie for biz cazh. white linen seems fine but anything else seems a little forced.

well imho it depends on the rest of the look and your level of confidence in coordinating with the other fabrics you're wearing.

for ex: a rich paisley pocket sq in a varicolored tweed, on the one hand; a white linen pocket sq in a trad blue blazer on the other.

in both cases the pocket square adds something to the look, but you wouldn't want to interchange them

yeah, well put

most cases white linen is p safe tho, personally i think it helps to showcase the color of the suit by providing a pure white that calibrates the eye, just a pet theory of mine

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/25-style-lessons-from-guys-at-tech-conferences

i'm kind of grappling with coloured socks at the moment after an onset of compulsive shopping led me to buy what would seem to be uniqlo's entire range

such fine lines between cute and wanker

ha me too (also uniqlo)

"ask me about my socks" socks

Uniqlo socks are cheap and colorful. Go crazy I say. Why not?

uniqlo coloured socks are the best thing they do. amazing.

socks are cool because it's this place where there are **no rules**

yes but i don't want the socks to drag me down to their lowly level, i am not a cheap and colourful personage

i'm down with the muted autumnal tones but some of the more basic ones are ehhh idk

really i'd like some subtly nuanced melange numbers to take the edge off but who sells that shit i ask u? it's truly amazing the awful socks you see on sale

socks are cool because it's this place where there are **no rules**

― chinavision!, Monday, 9 September 2013 20:03 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

you are dead wrong my friend, dead dead wrong

http://www.asos.com/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=2661271

fuckass these are out of stock now

i'd like them as not boot socks as well though, any ideas

uniqlo coloured socks are the best thing they do. amazing.

― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Monday, 9 September 2013 19:59 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

it was a very pleasing very zen retail experience i must confess, like buying stationary (ok ok obtaining it from the staff cupboard)

the other side of the coin as well is i'd been following the herd and going sockless more often, nagging thing in my mind of is this just too cliche now idk

it takes me like a hundred years to leave the house tbh

factually incorrect product descriptions make me irrationally angry

those asos socks are not cable knit, goddamn it

well there are rules for socks if you're wearing solids, but once you enter the realm of bright colors and patterns I think all bets are off

but anyway ime you can get decent woolrich boot socks in various melange colors for pretty cheap at marshall's or tj / tk maxx

xp

once you enter the realm of bright colors and patterns I think all bets are off

disagree strongly