Ask vahid, spencer and ronan

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that compound word is usually written thus: "school bus". it is an "open compound", in which both words are considered nouns. i believe the rationalization is that the word "school" does not describe an attribute of "bus", ie the bus does not in any way take on the characteristics of a school. instead it describes a relation between the school and the bus.

on ilx, "school" frequently also functions as a verb.

vahid

I believe you guys were classmates in college. do you know each other? also, where did you live in the Bay Area?

dearest ronan,

i just cooked up some tater tots and slivered mushrooms with a little olive oil and a pinch of butter. what is my recipe missing?

g!

adam,

if you are unable to attend an event to which you have been invited, you may convey your sincere regret by responding with sign language (see fig. 1)

vahid

http://picklejuice.yatescentral.com/images/monkeyfinger.jpg

i will be passing on your 3rd question to drs. fitzgerald and chow. unfortunately, i am unlicensed to perform dentistry outside of mexico.

vahid

#1 - a high-rise dorm overlooking (the new) rasputin records at the corner of telegraph+channing

#2 - a three-bedroom cottage at the corner of spruce+cedar, two blocks east from chez panisse and the cheese board.

#3 - a three-story converted fraternity house on dwight way, directly across the street from people's park.

april 22nd, mayer, scotland?

optimo,
cozen

i wonder what it was that jack cole said that got deleted. fuck a world where you cant offend someone now and then, it could be said, perhaps

dear gareth,

I recommend, as I said, "Submarine", by Felix Da Housecat, I will think further on the matter and get back to you,

sincerely

Ronan (of Vahid, Spencer, and Ronan Ltd)

vahid, spencer and ronan - I have a referred pain from a damaged sacroiliac joint. Do I need surgery?

I think schoolbus is a noun itself, to me. "school-bus" might be different though.

I would turn down the business brunch with a polite, but informal phonecall, and liberal use of the word "zap" to mean "reschedule".

As regards the damaged sacroiliac joint, I would wait and see what Spencer and Vahid have to say before you do anything whatsoever.

I hope this has helped, Adam.

g!

dear gygax,

have you considered adding cheese? and perhaps drink a beer too, while listening to ambient dinner music.

sincerely,

Ronan

With regards to your sacroiliac joint complaint, unfortunately I am only able to offer the advice of a common medieval barber: What you need is a good bleeding. I suggest consulting another barber in your village who may be skilled in the arts of humors and cutting.

Watching the video again of "The Man With the Red Face", I am reminded of St Germain's "Rose Rouge" and Soho's "Hot Music".

I live at MLK and Blake, equidistant from Ashby and Downtown Berkeley Barts. You know?

Spruce and Cedar - nice!

your last name is CHOW but in your pictures you do not come across to me as ASIAN. can you explain this discrepancy?

thx
cuttys

I have never seen a person of mixed white/Asian descent who wasn't HOTT.

the deleted comment was exterminated by myself.

best wishes,
jack "pincushion" cole

I am watching Ken Russell's MAHLER. That was a Death in Venice reference at the very beginning, wasn't it?

yours,
rosemary

Tokyo Rosemary, I will watch Mahler again tonight (haven't seen it in years) and get back to you.

Anyway the scene is Mahler looks out the train and sees a rather Dirk Bogarde looking guy who is ogling a very Tadzioesque youth. And didn't that movie feature Mahler songs?

DID YOU DOWNLOAD THE TWO MIXES I POSTED FOR YOU???? HOLLA BACK KID

I DL'ed your Back To Mines and the Westbam thing.

I don't think you will get a reply from jess or alex, posting on here.

does it work in quicktime??

i'll try again here.

ps. is AV8 actually a type of music?

in my mind it is almost like a sort of minimal techno: except instead of 808s and 909s they are making these hooky loopy tracks with samplers. also i think it's kind of a middle ground between hip-hop and disco because it's all hip-hop samples and vocals but the philosophy is totally rooted in disco edits: grabbing a small bit of a track (a bridge, or a chorus or a breakbeat or whatever) and just stretching out the groove as far as it'll go to keep rocking the party ... grandmaster flash, 2000s style.

xpost!! janky is california slang but i think it's LA based - i've never heard it in san diego or in the bay...

both a-side/b-side use "janky"

Do you live off Gennessee (wrt: the googlespy thread)?

When do you want to go to AQ?

i am just east and uphill of the belly-up bar ... a bit southeast and also uphill from pizza port ... my backyard looks out onto the del mar fairgrounds.

I heard Dave Wakeling's going to be at the Belly-Up soon! FAP?

Also: POO - Pizza Port beer. Mine's got to be the Shark Bite.

Are you from the North County?

SS

what mixes were you talking about above, many moons ago?

- sh

-- vahid (vfoz...), June 14th, 2005.

SOLANA BEACH, BRO

I, Steve Shasta, have poor memory. Forgive me.

Did you see Sonic Youth, Mudhoney and Pavement at the DMCF the summer of 2002?

What is your favorite Pizza Port brew? Mine was Sharkbite.

SS

thats right, you know which one

pevan

i did not. nor did i see the infamous DMF nirvana / pearl jam show for the nevermind tour, either, though some of my friends did.

i did see sonic youth three years ago at the fairgrounds. they played an afternoon set during the races. "jack daniels presents". for racetrack admission you got a free show on the green after the last post. admission = $3. i think only about 500 or 1000 people showed and i got to watch from like the fourth row back or so. pretty good show, they did 100% AND diamond sea AND teenage riot!

Summer of 2002 = Summer of 1992. This is what happens when you get old.

Seriously, what's your favorite Pizza Port brew!?!?!?!?

St. Shasta

the next year it was ??? / ??? / joe satriani / i mother earth / fight (w/ rob halford).

i tried to get into pavement at bottom of the hill in late 95 (or was it early 96?) but it was sold out and we couldn't get in.

summer / sunny afternoon / veggie pizza = swami's

winter / rain / feeling sorry for myself / pineapple on pizza = port's porter

salty pizza / hanging w britishers friends = pitcher of sharkbite

Also Vahid, what about that Son of Raw tune "A Lightstick..." or whatever it's called.

pls to recommend more techno exactly like BFC "galaxy"

the beatz are ripped from Liaisons Dangereuses: 'Peut être ... pas'
add Alex Cortex: 'Laconic Track 1' on top et voila

i got really into carl craig when "more songs about food + revolutionary art" and the urban tribe album came out. around the same time i was hospitalized for brain problems. i was a habitual lsd user and i was pretty far gone from reality, televisions and radios and bypassers were talking about me constantly and a weak suicide attempt led to a hospital stay. i dropped out of college and moved home. (can somebody googleproof this??)

when i got home i was listening to urban tribe constantly, then one day i dropped by the used CD store and there was a copy of "elements 89-90" there for like five bucks and a new reissue of landcruising for 10 bucks. i grabbed both and i remember driving home and breaking into tears listening to "neurotic behavior". it was a gorgeous sunny autumn day, the beach looked amazing and clean and everything was either bright blue (ocean + sky) or white (waves + clouds) or sandstone colored.

there's something about the way he warps the synth noises that nobody else does ... or maybe it's just that he recorded all the synths on shitty tapes and the rhythms he uses are so much rougher than what the british were doing at the time ...

anyway the one thing i would really recommend is just grabbing all of craig's own techno albums (landcruising, more songs, sound of music, elements 89-90) and listening to them over and over again. he's amazing, he's always been into recycling and reworking his old material so it's totally cohesive and sounds incredible all next to each other. also in this context his edit + remix work makes total sense. the dude is like a self-contained universe, in my book he's easily the greatest sound-artist-what-have-you of the 3rd quarter of the 20th century.

he's also oddly apart from the rest of detroit. he's so synth wash / string oriented. something of a krautrock vibe running through his brain, so unlike the rest of the stuff which is often more electro-dominated or jazz keyboard dominated.

here's a brief list of shit worth tracking down, though, if you really need more things in that vein:

the 4th wave - "touched" EP on planet E
the 4th wave - "attention please" EP on A.R.T.
phenomyna - "scratch" EP on otherworld
stasis - "history of the future" EP on mo'wax
stasis - "past movements" (disc 2) on peacefrog
nuron - all of the shit on likemind 01 / likemind 02 / likemind 04
"agenda 21" comp on eevo lute muzique
"agenda 22" comp on eevo lute muzique
octave one - "the collective" comp on 430 west
as one - "reflections" LP on new electronica
as one - "reflections on reflections" remix LP on new electronica
as one - "celestial soul" LP on new electronica
b12 - "time tourist" LP on warp
dan curtin - "web of life" comp on peacefrog
CiM - "reference" LP on defocus
CiM - "do not multiply models" LP on ann aimee
alex cortex - "inwards CTRL" LP on ann aimee
future beat alliance - "disconnected" LP on delsin
future beat alliance - "lumiere" EP on versatile
CiM - "service pack" on delsin
aphelion - "zugzwang" LP on defocus
plaid - "trainer" comp on warp
"technoir" comp on ifach
"ifach 01" comp on ifach
"trelik vol 1" comp on trelik
maybe some stuff off baby ford's PAL SL label, too??
other random stuff on labels like delsin, etc? check nomorewords.net ...

if you look at it close up there's not a whole lot of musical similarity but there is a similar feeling because they're all apparently heavily into feeling the old klaus schulze / tangerine dream vibe ... obviously if you like delia + gavin you will eat old rising high / irresistible force up!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ikw1y2

yes! i went to this rock concert with a broken collarbone. thurston said something about how "it's so nice to be here in orange county tonight" and everyone booed him for being a dumb non-county-knowing moron. they also had a jack daniels t-shirt gun that drove all the Pi Kappa Alphas crazy

did you go see alice in chains this summer?? apparently all of my friends did, and i was in town when it was going on, but i was all mr realness NO LAYNE STALEY NO CREDIBILITY

no i didn't see alice in chains but i did see the PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA at the racetrack for free in 1997. guitbass (basitar?) player threw me his guitar pick omggggg!

also, your area of teh gables seemed much less stupid and more tasteful than other parts, lfam. maybe that was just my perception.

i'd like to add something, which in no way should be interpreted as an attack..

vahid's ILM posts always catch my eye because (to me) 50% of the time he's infuriatingly dead wrong but the other 50% of the time he is startlingly OTM. i can't think of another poster who hits such extremes while splitting so evenly.

IT'S KOMPAKT ISN'T IT??

that Carl Craig selected discography above is grebt.

-- vahid (vfoz...) (webmail), October 30th, 2005 11:40 PM. (vahid) (link)

[ALBUM OF THE WEEK] will probably remain the heaviest, creepiest, most beautiful, epic, expansive slab of slowcore doom drone you will ever hear ... until next week!!!!

-- vahid (vfoz...) (webmail), October 30th, 2005 11:55 PM. (vahid)

vahid can u do a nabisco-sized rant on aquarius? i've really come to h8 their reviews

A truly creepy, harrowing sonic journey, deep dark resonant smears of low end drift beneath martial drumming, and haunting chants, swirling snippets of sound, warbling and whirring, growled animalistic voices, bizarre ambient FX, jagged shards of industrial detritus, bursts of fuzzed out hiss and grinding slabs of rhythmic chaos, creepy chorales stretched into seasick soundscapes, disembodied voices drift and hover, snippets of found sound and conversation, all of these disparate elements woven into an epic, monstrous sonic tale of death destruction and mayhem, of blood and death and rebirth. So intense and strangely beautiful.

"sonic subtleties"!?

...It's almost like a noise rock Tom Waits.... like the Black Rider performed by Sunroof! Or a super blissed out take on old Swans...

...Imagine Carl Stalling orchestrating the No Neck Blues Band after an all night crystal meth binge, or the soundtrack to a Bollywood movie played by Violent Onsen Geisha, or a Perrey And Kingsley recording session after having taken WAY too many drugs and having some sort of musical mental breakdown or maybe even Casiotone For the Painfully Demented and Damaged.

a nauseating cascade of hyperbolic adjectives

-- PRKLTR (fffffezaff...) (webmail), January 13th, 2007 7:25 AM. (flezaffe)

^^haha exactly

[ALBUM OF THE WEEK] will probably remain the heaviest, creepiest, most beautiful, epic, expansive slab of slowcore doom drone you will ever hear ... until next week!!!!

so the point of my revive is moot

4th wave complete works:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ikw1y2

-- HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, November 6, 2006 5:41 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Link

i never got a chance to download this. :(

sux 2 b u

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http://www.sendspace.com/file/t5vzyv

Help Identifying Late 80s - Early 90s Minimal Techno song

hey vahid can you speak/read farsi/persian?

All gangsta yout' me waan fi see yuh guns high
Nuh see yatta? fi nuh farsi
Cause a farsi nah try
Make dem skins cry

listening = good enough to watch the FARS evening news on satellite and understand the headlines and discussion. though when they start doing poetry readings i can get a little lost, and when they have theological discussion i miss about half the vocabulary.

speaking = hella bad. mainly because i of my awful californian accent and my bad habit of transliterating english idioms instead of finding the right farsi idioms. like i'll ask at dinner for someone to "please cut me a piece the casserole" instead of "please pull me a piece of the casserole" which would be the correct idiom. also about half the time i can't find the correct adjective in a positive-negative pair, so instead of saying "correct" i'll say "not wrong", instead of saying "mild" i'll say "not spicy" ... basically my farsi is only a few grade levels above borat's english.

literacy = completely illiterate. i can't identify even individual letters of arabic script. actually, for that matter, i wouldn't even be able to tell you the letters of farsi ... don't know my ABCs! :-(

im sort of considering learning, more to read poetry and books than to write. seems like it would be hard & take a lot of effort that im not sure im willing to put in.

uh ... do you speak farsi?

no...? i just meant id like to be able to read farsi?

v, what kind of table/flatware are you guys rocking?

vahid, my coworker esmail claims that iranians cant hold their liquor, and that the last shah was a formidable ruler, a man of integrity. do you have an opinion on these issues.

well, let's see.

the serving situation is complicated. we have a bunch of one-off random stuff from the "pottery guild" in balboa park that we use. handthrown and painted by san diego's finest retired yuppie hippies. these are mostly big bowls for serving salad or soup from, or using for the fruit bowl or whatever. we also have a small and basic collection of bauer bowls and plates that we use a lot, not so much for eating off of but for keeping the feta or butter on. but none of that ugly-ass reissued fiestaware that you can get at macy's. we also have some handpainted mexican plates from bazaar del mundo, i forget the exact name but i think it's david somebody that runs the studio. we also have a set of le creuset dutch ovens and cast-iron skillets that we use for serving.

for eating off of, we've got a set of eva zeisel century tableware (the crate & barrel reissue, obviously). we like that it's off-white and the subtle organic forms go nice with our midcentury danish dinner table and chairs and nelson bubble lamp (BRAGGIN!). we also have a set of marc jacobs' waterford china but that shit is fancy and we frankly haven't even used it once.

we have three sets of flatware. the first, and most used is the $5 stuff you can get at ikea. i don't think ikea has the exact same stuff right now but it looks a lot like the crate & barrel flatware set called "foster". it is like the george nelson bench of flatware. completely basic and built like a tank. the second set is a crate & barrel set called "tilia". it is really bizarre. it is all about 1.5 times as long as the flatware needs to be, and weirdly spindly in proportions. it looks like a cartoon drawing of flatware by joan miro, come to life. really weird stuff, but nice anyway. the third set is super-basic wedgewood silver. it's called "new oberon". again, like the waterford, we never take it out of the cabinet.

my wife doesn't like the tilia flatware very much (even though she picked it!)

she says "i didn't pick it - i suggested it"

haha,

yr tableware collection looks tite.

my ikea flatware is toast. maybe i got a bad batch... time to upgrade tho, so i'm checking some WMF stuff on sale... i know you're the style maven so it's good to ask a married man who also style mavens on the side. jaxon's out of town the fukker.

☪,

this is true, about the liquor. i can't really drink anything but cuervo gold margaritas or bombay sapphire gin & tonic. i usually have two or three on a friday afternoon, after which i'm more or less acting like that guy in the "gardening on salvia" video. anything more than that and i'm hanging on to the toilet bowl or the edge of the bed for dear life as the world spins crazily around me. and after friday afternoon, i'm totally useless for intelligent activity until at least sunday afternoon. my wife usually drinks a glass of red wine with dinner but i find if i drink beer or wine i get really sleepy and/or depressed. i've heard people say that iranians have a pretty good tolerance for sedative drugs like pot or opium but i stopped doing that shit in college when i realized my brain was almost completely out of serotonin.

i'm not sure i agree that the shah was a man of integrity. on the one hand, he stocked his government with secular-minded muslims, christians, jews and baha'is. on the other hand, he did that because he (rightly) figured those people, being the most generally westernized parts of iranian society, would be unlikely to oppose his government. the problem with that is that it left the working-class shi'ites feeling rather disenfranchised, which led directly to the iranian revolution. i suppose he was also dumb enough to assume that the revolution wouldn't happen, because the student-led far left would never get in bed with the working-class far right (we saw how that turned out).

as far as being a formidable ruler, he paid for my parent's college education, and made it possible for them to learn french and english in grade school, high school and college, which made it possible for them to travel in europe and america. he paid for my mom's aunt to get a PhD in psychology at BYU as an exchange student. we have many, many family friends who studied in america in the 60s as grad students. he built what was the world's largest dam at the time - bigger than hoover dam, and a big deal for my family because my maternal grandfather was the head consulting geological engineer on the project, and that really helped him in his work towards his PhD. he also modernized the nation's telecom system, which was very profitable for ross perot, and by extension my paternal grandfather, who worked in the massive phone & tv bureacracy. as you can imagine, while all of that was just awesome for my family (who were middle-class baha'is) it led to a lot of resentment from the working-class, who didn't really see much of the profit ... a lot of it flowed straight back to the west. i think my grandfather was one of only two or three iranian engineers on the project, the rest were americans flown in by bechtel engineering.

the shah paid a huge commission to iannis xenakis to compose music for a massive lightshow / art installation that was installed at the ruins of persepolis. i think that is formidable and awesome, but it was about as popular in iran as serrano's "piss christ" was in america. again, make of that what you will. i think things could have gone differently, and iran could have been like another egypt or another pre-war lebanon. and we'd have a very different world today than we do. but that's history for you. these questions are, as they say, above my pay grade.

max,

reading if you want to learn farsi to read poetry you might have a tough time of it. it'd be a bit like learning english to read shakespeare or chaucer. i imagine most courses in farsi language are for modern conversational farsi ... the best way to really get the background you need would be to take classes in the near east studies dept of a university.

steve,

i like the WMF flatware! the "zaha" model is a little bizarre for my taste, but i really like "lyric", "nomos" and "palma".

these are my basic rules for flatware:

1) the handles should be as close to flat as possible, for comfort. chopstick-shaped handles are trendy but they're a bitch to hold.

2) the handles should have the minimum amount of "flare" from top to bottom needed to make it look clean and modern. too little flare and they look institutional cutlery. too much flare and they boring & suburban. way too much flare and they look like something you'd use for serving off the wedgewood with blue woodcut illustrations of meadows and shepherds. not that i have anything against that, just that it's not our style.

3) the tines or the bowl of the spoon should be noticeably rectangular, rather than square (ie much longer than they are wide). this is basically just for ease of use and balance. you don't want the spoon flipping up out of the soup, and you don't want to have to stick more than the the tips of the tines of your fork in your mouth.

4) brushed is better than shiny. neutral warm pewter colors are much, much better than the currently trendy blackish or blueish steel you see.

5) something about the knives that i just can't say any more elegantly than "fuck postmodernism" ... A DINNER KNIFE SHOULD LOOK LIKE A DINNER KNIFE ... not like an oversized butter knife, or a repurposed scalpel, or a dull straight razor or a miniature cleaver. this is the sort of "playful" and "unexpected" design you see marketed to young people that makes me shit my pants in disgust.

example of a stupid knife

example of a VERY stupid knife

actually, our "tilia" set has pretty stupid knives, that's my one regret about it.

max,

reading if you want to learn farsi to read poetry you might have a tough time of it. it'd be a bit like learning english to read shakespeare or chaucer. i imagine most courses in farsi language are for modern conversational farsi ... the best way to really get the background you need would be to take classes in the near east studies dept of a university.

this is true, im sure. im looking for a project, though. any other suggestions?

u should do a paper on the linguistics of ebay feedback

my current project is trying to learn to spot all of the constellations, their names, the names of their stars, and their mythical backstories.

so far i've got orion, canis major, gemini, taurus and cassiopeia down. still trying to find lepus, cetus, andromeda, perseus and cepheus.

shasta, are you getting hitched?!

this is the daily dinnerware we use
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family.aspx?c=85&f=6503

the flatware is real simple C&B also but they're not on the site anymore.

the china we have is vera wang wedgewood(i think this one), but we've never once used them in the 5.5 yrs we've been married
http://www.wedgwoodusa.com/shop/collection.asp?id=491&cat=&terms=

oh, here is our flatware
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family.aspx?c=108&f=14305

dear vahid. i read in a recently published book that there is a forum called "I LOVE MUSIC" on the internet where people from SAN FRANSISCO (sic) and MELBOURNE discuss the latest in GERMAN MINIMAL TECHNO based solely on their subscriptions to the RESIDENT ADVISOR PODCAST. does any of this ring a bell.

do i get a mention or something!??

not by name.

no "moonship" in the index?

excerpt please.

haha, i think tobias posted to ilm a few times, clearly it was for research..

Techno is dead, at least official. In reality were never more creative and more interesting electronic music and the night subculture of proceeding - beyond from social utopias and Love Parade - than today. And never at a place concentrates in such a way: Young people populate each weekend out completely Europe a few kilometer at the citizen of Berlin Spreeufer; they come with low cost airlines and remain pretty often, until the last after Hour flows after days nearly again into the next weekend… Tobias Rapp, even DJ and an intimate connoisseur of the scene, porträtiert the most fascinating, most excessive and secretly most influential capital culture and its protagonists: Dancer and DJs, music producer and town planner.

town planner!

urban planning is a major factor in berlin club life because most of the underground clubs are using abandoned buildings that the city has no use for but might sell at any time. which is why the old ostgut and tresor locations closed.

ps:

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Kompakt: Search und Destroy - Teil Zwei

ENGLISHMAN MY ASS

dear moonship,
Singapore Math, Classic or Dud?

classic, though it's hardly the only spiraled math curriculum that thoroughly mixes up bite-size defns, quick example-practice drills and discovery exercises. i personally prefer college preparatory math, which was developed at UC Davis.

what do you think of singapore math?

I haven't fully formed an opinion, I just heard about from a friend a few days ago, but from what I've seen I like the concision of the whole thing, not so many billboards saying "Math Here, Next Exit!" distracting from the content. But what I just read tonight seemed to say that they WEREN'T spiraled.

But I don't really quite understand the term. OK, I see I think. Somebody here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Math_Method was trying to say that they were good spiraled, not bad spiraled, true spiraled not false spiraled.

spiral just means you don't stop teaching or using algebra just because you've moved on to geometry - you should still be solving linear equations and parabolic equations and what not. when i took geometry we dropped all that and did proofs for a year and i had to relearn from scratch in algebra 2.

if you think of the different types of math (logic & analysis, geometry, algebra, statistics & probability) as poles on coordinate axis, with increasing value being increasing difficulty, a spiraled curriculum would gradually spiral out from the center, whereas a traditional curriculum would just go along one axis for a while, and then jump back to zero and start moving along another axis.

it's a very math teacher oriented analogy!

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Ask ilxor

this guy pretty much governs ILM these days.

Dear contenderizer,

Do you have much experience within the music journalism 'industry'? Also, what was the first record you ever truly loved?

Yours,

― bitch hooligan, pussy ass nobrain dårk (country matters)