― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
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― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
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― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
13. http://www.adclub.org/media/images/logos-big/wbos.jpg
14. BIG DIG
― elmo (allocryptic), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
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― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― elmo (allocryptic), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― elmo (allocryptic), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
Logan OTM.
― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)
― bb (bbrz), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
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― sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― Gee, You Knit? (mookie wilson), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
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― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
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― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
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― brock (brock), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
NB or maybe they were, I wouldn't know.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
― Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
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― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)
― elmo (allocryptic), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― Alec Immerman (Alec Immerman), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― Gee, You Knit? (mookie wilson), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― Mad SETI (jaxon), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
http://www.law.harvard.edu/alumni/bulletin/2002/spring/images/f1-1.jpg
― elmo (allocryptic), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
ihttp://hulubei.net/tudor/photography/photos/BostonianSleeping-1000x1500.jpg
― bb (bbrz), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
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― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
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― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)
Barry Bonds vs. Boston"A Flea Market of Racism"
By DAVE ZIRIN
The media and sports radio establishment of Boston are calling for the head of All-World baseball player Barry Bonds.
In an interview with the Boston Globe, Bonds was asked a cream puff question about whether he would consider finishing his career in Beantown. Bonds shook his head and said, "Boston is too racist for me. I couldn't play there. That's been going on ever since my dad (Bobby) was playing baseball. I can't play like that. That's not for me, brother." When the reporter countered that the racial climate has changed in Boston, Bonds responded, "It ain't changing. It ain't changing nowhere."
Boston is a city that treasures its image as a liberal enclave of elite universities and tweedy baseball poets so Bonds's words have gone over like a 4th of July Picnic in Fallujah. He has been roundly criticized including winning the "Just Shut Up" award from ESPN radio. By calling on Bonds to "just shut up" the media is just doing what pitchers have been perfecting all season: avoiding confrontation with the six-time MVP. To be clear, it is not like Boston has cornered the market on bigotry. Every city has its stories of both racism and resistance. Yet Boston's history is particularly nasty. The most violent anti-busing demonstrations in America were not in Birmingham or Biloxi but Boston. In 1989, when Charles Stuart, a wealthy white businessman murdered his pregnant wife, he told police that a "Black guy" did it. The police believed him without a whisper of doubt. They launched a vicious manhunt, fanning out through housing projects and sweeping the streets. State politicians whipped up a further frenzy by calling for reinstatement of the death penalty. When Stuart committed suicide after his brother blew the whistle, all police spokeswoman Margot Hill could say without shame was, "(Stuart) took advantage of the environment he was in. He knew exactly what he was doing." It is precisely what Ms. Hill calls "the environment" that has found expression in the world of sports. The Boston Red Sox were the last team in major league baseball to integrate. They waited so long to sign African-Americans, that the hockey team, the Bruins, actually beat them to it. The Sox removed their color line in 1959 twelve years after Jackie Robinson broke through with the Brooklyn Dodgers. They begrudgingly brought marginal infielder Pumpsie Green up from the minors. But it didn't have to be Pumpsie.
In April 1945 the Red Sox held a private tryout at Fenway Park for Robinson himself. With only management in the stands, someone yelled "Get those niggers off the field," and the door was shut. In 1949, the Red Sox laughed off the chance to sign Bonds's godfather, the legendary Willie Mays, who would go on to hit more career home runs than all but one man before him and awe crowds with his speed and defense. As Juan Williams reports, "One of the team's scouts decided that it wasn't worth waiting through a stretch of rainy weather to scout the black player." That decision killed the possibility that Mays and Ted Williams might have played in the same outfield.
In the 1950s, as teams immeasurably strengthened themselves by signing players like Mays, Henry Aaron, Ernie Banks, Don Newcombe, Roy Campanella, Elston Howard, and others, the Red Sox stood pat with an all white hand. (The next time you hear a Boston fan complain about "The Curse of the Bambino", correct them that their "Curse of the Racism" has had a much more adverse effect.)
As the Civil Rights Movement blossomed, New England's Black baseball fans would root for integrated clubs over their own home team. In other words, they practiced their own form of ABB - Anybody but Boston.
Therefore unlike other cities, such as New York and Chicago, where rooting for an integrated team actually helped advance people's consciousness and challenge racist ideas, the Red Sox were proudly planting themselves on the wrong side of history. In the 1950s, if you were young and black, Fenway park was about as safe a space as Bull Connor's back yard.
But the racism in the Boston sports scene didn't stop at the Green Monster. During the 1950s and 1960s Boston was treated to the most successful run in the history of team sports with the NBA's Celtics winning 11 championships in 13 seasons. The mainstay of that team was a player of immense skill, unselfishness, and leadership: Bill Russell. Russell won five MVPs to go with his 11 rings. In 1967 he became the first African American coach of a pro team. In 1974 he was elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame, and in 1980 the country's basketball sports writers voted him "The Greatest Player in the History of the NBA."
Russell also felt a deep desire to resist racism. Once in Marion, Indiana, he had been given the key to the city only to be refused service that evening in his hotel's dining room. Russell went to the mayor's home, woke him up, and returned the key.
His fierce pride (which the media called "a bad attitude") mixed about as well with Boston fans as a John Ashcroft sing along at the Apollo Theater. The result was that the greatest player in Boston team sports history was the target of a constant campaign of racial harassment. When Russell tried to move from his home in the Boston suburb of Reading to a new home across town, neighbors filed a petition trying to block the move. When that failed, other neighbors banded together to try to purchase the home that Russell wanted to buy, said Tom Heinsohn, a close friend of Russell's who played with him from 1956 to 1964. Once, vandals broke into Russell's home and defecated on his bed. Heinsohn said two white sportswriters from Boston told him they wouldn't vote Russell the league's most valuable player because he was Black.
Russell's achievements during his days in Boston, from 1956 to 1969, drew national acclaim but never won locals fans' hearts the way later Boston sports heroes did, from hockey player Bobby Orr to baseball player Carl Yastrzemski to basketball player Larry Bird. Despite all the rings, the Boston Garden averaged 8,406 fans during Russell's playing career, thousands short of a sellout. "We always sold out on the road, but rarely when we played at home," said Satch Sanders, who played with the Celtics from 1960 to 1973. By contrast, the Celtics teams led by Larry Bird in the 1980s sold out the 14,890-seat Garden for 662 straight games, from 1980 to 1995. "I didn't play for Boston," he once said, "I played for the Celtics." Another time he called Boston a "Flea Market of Racism."
Despite this mountain of evidence, Bonds is being told to "shut up." The few Boston writers, who to their credit have chosen to actually engage with what Bonds is saying, like the Globe's Bob Ryan have argued that "there may be a bad history, but it has gotten much better." Has it? Last fall, WEEI Boston Sports Radio host John Dennis, after looking at a photo of a gorilla that had escaped from the Franklin Park Zoo and lurked near a bus stop, said the animal was "probably a Metco gorilla waiting for a bus to take him to Lexington." Dennis was referencing the Metco program, under which more than 8,000 children of color from Boston and Springfield have attended suburban schools over the past 37 years. Despite an outcry, he was neither fired nor disciplined.
And to think, Bonds dares say out loud that the Boston sports scene is racist. No wonder ESPN wants him to "shut up." I guess the truth hurts.
― gang grape (Adrian Langston), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)
― gang grape (Adrian Langston), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)
In general yeah, but I don't ever want to hear "Dirty Water" again.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)
― PHOIOEI (blastocyst), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)
HORRIBLE
― lemin (lemin), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
THE SONG DIRTY WATER IS ABOUT BOSTON. #65 IS DIRTY WATER NOT EVERYTHING THE STANDELLS EVER STOOD FOR.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
I DUNNO THO -- IS IT? "BOSTON YR MY HOME" IS SOME BULLSHIT LIE.
― PHOIOEI (blastocyst), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
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― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)
(number 68)
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)
boston got a pardon for the next five thousand years due to this album. i was there when jonathan signed the papers in duck blood
― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)
http://web.mit.edu/echemi/www/dukakis.jpg
― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showforum=1
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)
FORCEFIELDLoad RecordsRoggaboggas17 "songs"
"Load" records, indeed. This is some haw-haw collective of performance-art types, wearing throw rugs and mop-wigs on the cover, playing oscillators, loops and video game sound effects, and it sucks harder than a two-dollar crack whore. The first "number" is a one-note synth fart, held for a solid minute. And it's the best thing on here. There are long stretches that sound like leaky faucets, tests of the Emergency Broadcast System, and elderly people coughing up hairballs. Six tracks and twenty minutes in, you finally hear a beat, not that a beat could redeem this catastrophe. Almost looks like they're selling it as a sci-fi concept album, but there are no vocals or liner notes, and even the press sheet is one big, pointless Fuck-You to the general public. They list fake names (smart move), and thank a buncha people with fake names too. These guys should learn that the bigger the in-joke, the less funny it is. To think that they actually sat around attaching song titles to this puddle of misery is mind-blowing. Someone sank big money into the thing, but there's no way that even the band members listen to it. Helen Keller could make a better record in her sleep, and she's dead. Honestly, these people should be ashamed. (Joe Coughlin)
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)
museum of science & the mugar omni theatre "new england time capsule" intro w/ leonard nimoy
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)
IN THE RAM............
A LAM......
A DING DONG
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr. Alicia B. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)
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― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)
Charles River, anybody? Boston is kinda laid-back for some East Coast shit?A subway system that fucking works right? At least when I was there?
― bla$$$t (blastocyst), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)
― disappointing goth fest line-up (orion), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)
when did that start happening? and can someone explain to me why the t shuts down BEFORE last call? this has never made any sense to me. does the cab drivers union have more clout than i thought?
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
too bad its like living on the L train... EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME
XPOST!
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)
the river -- It's pretty and people use it. It has sailboats in it all the time. Nice waterfront places.
the subway -- maybe i'm wrong, but it was cleaner & more reliable/efficient that nyc's. but yeah i forgot about it shutting down at night or whatever. that part sux.
― bla$$$t (blastocyst), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)
― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)
damn I hate Boston
― bla$$$t (blastocyst), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)
best view of boston is driving east along mem drive in cambridge in front of mit (the stretch from the bu bridge to the longfellow bridge). great view of the skyline, people on the river walk, boats on the water. great in spring or fall.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)
― ~Loves that Dirty Water (blastocyst), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)
HO CHI MINH, PEOPLE.
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)
Providence Goodwife = cool Puritan nameBoston Goodwife = lame Puritan name
― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)
other bad things:75. students EVERYWHERE76. everything is one million dollars US approx.
some redeeming things:students EVERYWHEREpeople are like crazy niceseems fairly safe for a city of its size
?:I LIVE HERE.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)
http://amerika.nu/graphics/boston_herald_victoria_snelgrove_cover_600x735.jpg
― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)
C-----------------------------------------Ts8=====================)~~~~~~~JTM
-- Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr...) (webmail), September 13th, 2006 3:10 PM. (scarymonsterrr) (later) (link) (admin) (userip)
― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)