The Nintendo Switch

Will be revealed at 7am PT/10am ET through Nintendo's official channels.

It's only a preview trailer. Substanstive reveal expected next week.

Remind me what this thing is again?

Nobody knows yet.

Hybdrid console/handheld. Good news is you don't have to choose between what Ninty platform you get, all games come to one place.

Bad news.. well, maybe it looks like a a Frankenstein monster. Expect to see the concept today and software lineup next week.

Gettin' ready for thread title change!

Seriously though the one positive thing (maybe) coming out from this is that it seems like it's been known about, in development for long enough where we might actually get to see something substantial in terms of info and real games tomorrow. The rumors have been for a March 2017 release date for ages.

The March 2017 date is official, from Nintendo.

I don't think we'll see much of games tomorrow since this is labelled as a 3 minute preview. The solid word on the street is a bigger thing next week.

But yeah, the March date was, in the words of Nintendo execs, partially to ensure a strong (1st party) lineup for the first year of this thing. Unlike the Wii U which relied on 3rd party ports.

Yeah that's a good thing unless it means "we're not expecting any 3rd party support at all this time around", which is probably does.

feel like at this point if you're still a Nintendo fan you just accept it :(
that said I skipped both Wiis so I might jump back in with this system

I don't really care about western 3rd party support on a nintendo console. And I don't think Nintendo's got much riding on it either. It's irrelevant. The DS and 3DS thrived without it. Nintendo needs to offer an alternative.

My PC already makes whatever MS / Sony console I reluctantly end up buying redundant in terms of your Call of Dutys and sports games.

Well actually sports games is the one genre still better on PSXbox than PC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI

lol Nintendo Switch is a terrible name
Looks kinda dope tho

Name isn't so bad. Does look cool. But maybe that's just Zelda.

I'm totally on board, despite the pretty terrible name

trailer is v weird, thing itself looks p cool

Switch is a little dumb but leagues better than Wii or WiiU or GameCube

Terrible trailer o_O

Like the thing tho.

the first time the dude walked over and put the little controllers on and picked it up I whispered "what is this devilry?!?"

haha

i am into this!

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/

so, hardware-wise it's a really neat nvidia shield?

what does the core system come with tho? How much extra shit are they requiring me to buy?

agreed on dumb name, cool looking device. not sure about the detachable controller nubs but i like the rest

also why make a trailer where people are doing more fun things they would probably rather be doing than playing video games

also the DS had awesome 3rd party support, what you smoking. Even the 3DS's third-party support is way better than their consoles

I would guess it comes with the display/dock/controller wings and the standalone controller is extra?

DS and 3DS have great Japanese 3rd party support yes, not western. Because this is also a portable I believe they'll be able to retain Japanese 3rd party support, further differentiating their lineup from the competition.

Vanagon cameo

xp yeah I think the standalone controller is basically the Pro controller like on the Wii/U

Just consolidating 1st party output to one device is pretty huge, hopefully this means more variety as they don't need to work on 2 Mario Kart games at once for example

pending further information, i am into this. third party support is good from an adoption/longevity pov, Nintendo standards on a powerful handheld is cool (especially if it's more comfortably designed than the wii u tablet)

Cautious optimism

Has it been confirmed that there's no touch? People are surprised there's no use of that in the trailer...

is this likely to be region locked?

i skipped both wiis but i think it may be time to get back into this crap

xp

@ArcadeGirl64 53s53 seconds ago
As I previously reported in my September 2nd post, Nintendo Switch is 100% region free.

The people whose leaks have been most accurate e.g. Emily Rogers have been saying that it will be region free, and Iwata said on a few occasions that they were thinking about it. This console has got to have some big dumb thing wrong with it tho so it could be that :/

holding out for the big mario party announcement

I'm going to end up having to buy two of these.

i was also surprised that apparently there's no touch-capability.

i haven't had a nintendo console since the wii (which i attempted to mod and ended up bricking within 2 years), but i'm not sure this is going to be the one.

the whole gimmick where you can transform it into a handheld and go off to the williamsburg party and play videogames on the rooftop at the bbq - that's kinda cool in theory but i know i would never do something like that. when i walk my dog in the early morning, i like to just sit on the bench and pay attention to her, i don't want to resume my dragon quest at that moment. and after getting beaten down IRL 2v2 basketball underneath a bustling highway, i know my bros aren't going to want to play nba 2k18 with me. they'll probably be mad at me for being bad at basketball irl, 15 minutes earlier. i don't play games on public transport either. i'm just not a handheld person, so i feel like the main purpose of the system design isn't aimed toward me.

kind of raisin' an eyebrow at the cartridge thing, although maybe these days cartridges can handle resource-intensive games? either way, i guess it has to be a cartridge so that you can Switch(tm) your game into mobile mode so you can level up while you're eating brunch and windsurfing in the afternoon.

whoooa, that came out way more negative than i meant it to be, sorry. i'm sure this will be a cool system and i will be jealous of all people getting to play the nintendo 1st party franchise sequels, for real.

solid state storage is fast in a way optical media will never be, and I get the impression that the Japanese market wouldn't be about a download-only platform. Also yeah carrying around an optical drive would work about as well as a discman.

(a discman that needed to stream textures to the GPU without skipping.)

idk i think the portability is actually pretty interesting/compelling. the best thing about the Xbox one right now is how it integrates into the windows 10 ecosystem. i can play it on my pc in my office, on my laptop in bed, or on the TV directly from the Xbox in the usual way. this limited portability is pretty awesome, and extending the possibility to take the game with you anywhere is a logical extension and seems pretty cool. Xps

yeh I play handhelds mostly at home, in bed etc. playing an Atlus game while cycling is on TV is my jam!

Kind of funny that there were no kids in that video, unless I missed something.

I think the average age of someone playing video games is now around 30

goin' for chill hipster demo?

going for that disposable income demo for sure

I would like to see all the cables involved for connectivity ie power/recharging etc

The WiiU is a monster for too many cables, I don't want to go through that again.

i can play it on my pc in my office,

oh is that a thing? like, via remote desktop or something? this makes me pretty glad i don't have an xbox.

It will have a multi-touch screen. That's semi-confirmed (again from Emily Rogers' so far 100% correct fact sheet)

xp there's a windows 10 app that lets you stream games which is basically, as you say, a remote desktop thing. supposedly you can also set up your home router to allow you to access your Xbox from anywhere with internet but i haven't tried this

You can do that with the PS4 as well, but I haven't used it any further away than a laptop on the same wifi

looks cool

wish i had the desire/time to get back into games

yeah if you could just go into a hotel or a friend's apartment & hook this up to play on the tv, w/o anything complex, that would be terrific.

that's actually a good point

ugh new mario looks DREADFUL. they have turned him into a little blond girl with pointy ears running thru the countryside. too far SJWs too fucking far

You guys want a thread title change?

yeh that would help.
the battery life on this thing is going to be terrible isn't it?

You can do that with the PS4 as well, but I haven't used it any further away than a laptop on the same wifi

how do you do this???

https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/

you've just changed my life. the biggest impediment to ps4 gaming is that my kids are always using the tv.

Changed title to just 'The Nintendo Switch', lmk if you want a ref to the NX in there still.

for some reason i didn't know you could remote play outside the vita, this is good info. @mordy, from my experience doing this on the Xbox it's an awesome feature of the current gen that i wouldn't give for anything. it's rad to know everyone is proceeding on the assumption that portability is a necessary feature

Mordy, the vita really does the trick well ime

it works well for some games for sure, but if you need the r2/l2 buttons regularly it's kind of a chore ime

some games also seem to have developed better control schemes for working w vita than others so it may be a game by game basis kind of thing

but do i need the vita if i use this software? i think i'd prefer to play on my big macbook retina screen anyway

nah, macbook will likely work better for you if you're a laptop in bed kinda guy

you will probably become that guy, given the opportunity

ipad / home office / no children have thus far led to me not being that guy but life is long

so does remote play only work over the wi-fi or could i set it up to access from anywhere?

On the PS4? Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can remote play over the internet if you're away from home. The PS4 has to be in standby with the 'wake for network activity' (or whatever it's called) enabled, so you can wake it with the remote play request.

So the list of commitments for 3rd party support is already awesome. I cannot wait to play a new DQ on this. And Terraria! I bet they'll have Terraria for this. I'm going to have to buy a headset thingy with the microphone and everything.

My daughter is going to be the perfect age for this when it comes out. Dudes. 2017 is going to be the best.

can't believe your daughter is 27 and bbqing on a rooftop

badump switch

i clearly have to hurry up and make a child to get ready for this

Our Wii U (with Kart and Smash Bros) sits idle while my 9-year-olds play Geometry Dash and slither.io on the tablets. IDGI.

they love that name wii don't they
http://i.imgur.com/8KkKvdG.png

u r mr gay

Remote Play is good but will drag ass if ppl are streaming video. I would still get one anyway in your situation though as the Vita has tons of games worthy of your attention.

re: the Switch, the fact that it's not going to be BC with any previous games is making me want to hold off from buying at launch. REALLY hoping they don't make me rebuy all the digital shit I've bought over the years, although previous efforts on Nintendo's part in this regard are not encouraging.

They will absolutely make us rebuy it, and we will, because we are weak.

It totally makes me feel great about my decision to have not bothered with any Nintendo digital shit since 2007 or so!

Their digital system has been garbage for a long time, was hoping for this system they'd finally implement multi-system buys like Steam/XBL/PSN.
No backwards compatibility makes me sad as well and makes this a lot of less of a slam dunk for me. Probably gonna be a year or two before whatever version of Smash Bros comes out anyway....

I think it's odd and promising that this is such a straight games machine, first time in a long time (since Gamecube?) that nintendo have done that. Sure, portability is the headline, but there's no motion control, no second screen, no 3d, nothing really to set it apart from ps4 or xbox one in terms of core functionality. Upsides of that are that it'll no doubt mean a lot more 3rd party interest, and will hopefully mean more first party games that really focus on gameplay and not gimmicks.

But yeah, lack of back compatibility is inevitable for that reason - can't recreate wii u or wii or DS games on this.

The carts used for this are different size than the 3DS ones and obviously no disc drive so clearly no backwards compatibility. I think going forward it's not unlikely that iterations like the PS4 Pro and Xbone Scorpio could be standard and that the Switch will introduce a universal Nintendo operating system where your account and purchased content wlil stay with you in future generations.

I'm amped. I've skipped a console generation since 64. Wild how appx. 10 years is always the right time for me to get excited about video games

What would be sick is if they included free cellular connectivity for network gaming.

do you think they'll make a version of twilight princess HD for this thing?

pretty sure that even in strung-out Nintendo reality we're at least three generations past Nintendo 64, unless you mean you've only skipped one since then

never mind, you mean every other console, gotcha

N64 is 20 years old as of like a month ago

assuming wgw means n64 - wiii - this new thing

^yes

do you think they'll make a version of twilight princess HD for this thing?

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:59 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Probably not but usually Nintendo systems are backwards compatible with whatever the console prior was.

...therefore if that holds true you'd be able to play TP HD for Wii U on it

this uses cartridges so its not gonna be backwards compatible with wii games at least not in disc format - it'd have to be as a digital download

Oh right! I forgot about that. Hmm. Maybe downloads will be more of a thing for back catalog stuff. Imagine something like Steam for Nintendo titles. That'd be neat.

wish i had the desire/time to get back into games

Nintendo: Switch video does not represent actual game footage

wish i had the desire/time to get back into games

― niels, Monday, October 24, 2016 7:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new board description

They are doing a global livestream on January 12th which "will include the launch date and pricing for Nintendo Switch, as well as a look at the lineup of games currently in development" according to the PR. 2 months before launch seems a bit short, but I guess it doesn't make sense to do it before the holiday season?

if I had to guess, the new hardware platform is going to make porting easier than it's been previously and they're being optimistic about a broad range of release titles but are scheduling it at the QA cutoff for launch

All this thing has to do is give my little girl a great way to get introduced to DQ and FF and Zelda games where she can hand off the controller to Dad when stuff gets too hard. And then make me look good when I beat the hard parts (I realize that's probably more on me than the console). That's all I want. A thing that isn't homework that I can do with her for a few years before she decides/realizes that pops is a gross jerk with no style. I'm probably putting too much karma into this, but you gotta have dreams.

huge patent dump yesterday showing all the features of the Switch, this video is a bit dry but does a good job going through all the features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vImxcwEXE6o

that guy's got an... interesting idiolect

• touch screen
• motion sensing (accelerometers / inclinometers in the unit & controllers)
• 4 shoulder buttons (L+R for joycon separates)
• "record" button
• infrared + NFC (so the joycon also does touch/motion stuff, of course)
• USB Type C
• 3 USB ports on the dock
• different joycon layouts + accessories will be available, as suspected
• VR attachment might be a thing

joycon not gonna catch on

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/12/nintendo-switch-nvidia-tegra-x1-specs-speed

Yeesh? I don't know how low of a price point they intend to hit but it strikes me as odd that they'd go for such low end specs (in 2016) when a low end iPad mini 2 seems to have similar clock speed with a much better display. I really don't understand modern specs, I guess?

don't think nintendo's made a console that had high end specs for its time since the n64

depends how you approach it I guess - as a console its hugely underwhelming, as a (probably) $200 handheld its promising. Would an iPad mini be able to run something as complex as Breath Of The Wild? (I've honestly no idea)

Gamecube was better tech than PS2, stymied slightly by smaller disc size

fwiw i bought my mum a shield k1 tablet for the most basic browsing and tv streaming use and idk... it works ok but there's just a very vaguely janky unsatisfactory feel on a software level that the on-paper vastly outspecced nexus 7 it replaced didnt have

Well one edge over tablets might end up being the game carts themselves - you can serious GB for cheap on solid state now, basically the same as blu-ray, which would eat pretty much all the space on a tablet's internal SSD

Didn't get Wii U, so I am gonna definitely buy Switch for new Zelda, new Mario, Arms, Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8, Fire Emblem. looks like a ton of fun.

i mean look at this beauty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw47_q9wbBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kcdRBHM7kM

i've preordered one from amazon more out of loyalty to nintendo than anything else - zelda aside tho, the launch lineup is pretty dismal even compared to the wii u's anaemic launch selection

i'd really love to be wrong but, especially post-mario jump, it does kinda feel like the switch might be nintendo's dying gasp of hardware creation :(

well i've had an awesome time with my 3ds, and the girlfriend is an old school nintendo person - so feel like the amount of multiplayer fun we'll get from splatoon/mario kart/arms (which looks really fun) etc will make this is a good investment.
it does seem like a small 1st party lineup, but whats there does look really great.

i've had a huge amount of fun with my wii u and 3ds for sure - i just can't imagine that the switch is going to do anything more than appeal to nintendo diehards. the salad days of wii-mania seem like a long time ago and i think the commercial failure of the wii u has stripped them of a lot of momentum

i am v much looking forward to zelda and mario tho

yep i agree in the long run they're fighting a losing battle, but i'll keep supporting them as long as i can just for the sheer amount of persistent quality that goes into the best of their games.

no Endless Ocean 3 no credibility

i think i understand nintendo's commitment to building their own hardware, and yeah i'll buy their systems for as long as they make them because no-one else makes games as consistently brilliant as they do.

at the same time it does feel like increasingly they're hamstringing themselves by restricting their games to their own, tepidly-received platforms; it'll be interesting to see if the success of super mario run (which i called 'mario jump' earlier for some reason) might persuade them to rethink their strategy in the future.

I just don't see them going quietly out of the hardware business without an even bigger flop than the Wii U. Turning into a studio only would be a tremendous step down.

What might be interesting to see is how long 3rd party support lasts for making cartridge games versus apps (or if online-store-only 3rd party support even becomes a thing of any significance- is it on the Wii U?)

nintendo have always been super-stubborn and obsessive about controlling their output, and i can absolutely see how they would see it as a step down, but they must be missing out on hundreds of millions in sales from xbox and playstation owners who would love to play nintendo games new and old on their systems.

how much longer can they hold out if (or, let's be honest, when) the switch ends up being a commercial disappointment at best and an embarrassing failure at worst?

ehhhhhhh disappointed
it's a handheld that's priced as a console, with console software pricing as well
region free is good but paying for online is not
liked a lot of the software announcements but most of the ones I'm interested in look like they have just begun development
no mention of what will happen with VC etc
get the feeling that this is going to stumble out of the gate like the 3DS and require a quick price cut
definitely considering getting Zelda on WiiU (£40 on Amazon vs £60 switch version wtf) and waiting a year or more

In what sense exactly is it a handheld priced as a console?

It's a handheld console that uses a mobile chip for CPU/GPU, there's a pass through dock so you can hook it up to a tv?

When it launches in the UK it will be less powerful than an Xbone but £60 more expensive?

and a handheld with a battery that might only last two-and-a-half hours, no less :(

it is going to have a tough time competing with xbone and ps4 when, like zappi says, it'll be more expensive and doesn't include a pack-in game either as far as i can tell

Oh plus £75 for an extra pair of joycons.

The new Mario looks stunning but yeah, almost everything else about this feels wrong.

I'm possibly a little out of the loop - is there a handheld game that looks anything like those two videos?

weirdest announcement for me is the port of skyrim - like there's a sizeable community of hardcore rpg fans who have nonetheless been holding out for nearly six years just for the opportunity to play it on a nintendo machine

They're going to sell a shitload of these things

i'd love for that to be true, but i just don't see it - who are they going to be selling these to?

and why the switch and not a ps4/xbone/ios/android?

Let me try to explain that. It feels dumb and indulgent to blow $400 for a console just to play a few AAA RPGs on my TV. I'm not into shooters so everything else on the PS4/Xbone is moot, even after the price drops. But I'll try a AAA RPG I've heard about on the $300 console that seems like my whole family might enjoy.

(This post deliberately constructed to induce maximum "Actually..." in response)

and why the switch and not a ps4/xbone/ios/android?

Two words: Animal Crossing

Two more words: New Zelda

Also honestly if you think this thing is competing with phone / tablet games you're not thinking it through

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I'm possibly a little out of the loop - is there a handheld game that looks anything like those two videos?

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, January 13, 2017 8:22 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark

i think ipad is probably capable of this type of graphic output, hampered by the fact that pure touch is possibly the worst control interface ever created

Also honestly if you think this thing is competing with phone / tablet games you're not thinking it through

maybe, but it is competing with phones / tablets in terms of available, disposable household dollars to spend on digital entertainment and i dunno if the switch is going to be persuasive enough to draw that cash over its competition

i see your argument about the family appeal of the switch and i really hope it's true - i want nintendo to do well but i just don't see the switch being the no-brainer family entertainment system the wii was, at least based on what they've shown so far

3DS came out nearly 6(!) years ago, the games shown are exactly what a handheld system would be able to output in 2017 given the huge advances in mobile tech over the intervening period.
nice to see Bomberman still exists though!

DoA

hampered by the fact that pure touch is possibly the worst control interface ever created

EGGSACLY

The switch has things for your thumbs to do and plugs into a TV and stuff for non-gamers to dabble in; as such, it has little to no competition at this moment.

Before you say "but so did the Wii U" don't forget the Wii U was competing with its predecessor, which everyone already had two of, and also in 2012 tapping a touchscreen to win was still kind of amazing and novel

3DS came out nearly 6(!) years ago, the games shown are exactly what a handheld system would be able to output in 2017 given the huge advances in mobile tech over the intervening period.

I don't get why spec arguments are relevant to Nintendo products. We have been over this material.

ANECDATA WARNING: my niece and nephew are seven and 10 and they've got no issues with playing minecraft and first-person shooters for hours on their ipads using purely touch controls, which seems like total fucking madness to me but there you go

i'd like to have faith that nintendo will be able to successfully convince non-gamers that they can dabble in stuff on the switch, but if the best pitch they can come up with is that it has things for your thumbs to do and it plugs into your TV (exactly like playstations and xboxes do, to the untrained eye) i think they're gonna struggle.

the wii had the unique pitch of motion controls so the gaming-challenged could play tennis on their tv similar to the way the played actual tennis; the switch-pitch is that you can use it like a tablet or on your teevee which isn't far off the double-screen pitch of the wii u, and could easily be misinterpreted as yet another tablet for the kids to lose behind the sofa or drop and smash on their floor at mcdonalds just like they did with that goddamn ipad mini last year.

at least they haven't called it the wii thrii i guess?

xp Not just Nintendo, PS2 was the weakest in its gen iirc. As always it comes to price & software, and that's where Switch going to struggle initially imo. Most unfathomable bit of the presentation was getting Sega & Suda up on stage to say they might make something for it, maybe. Why bother?

Yeah never mind gamepads I am curious about what's going to happen when (if?) my niblings' generation start having to use mice.

The Joy Con is also two motion controllers, mind.

two motion controllers with, currently, no killer motion-based app and facing the prospect of being greeted by a collective shrug from a non-gaming public, some of whom have moved on to other digital novelties like vr on their phones

They're going to sell a shitload of these things

Yep, all the people being like "PROCESSORS" are really misunderstanding how and why the Nintendo brand works.

this is another nintendo console that i basically only want to play the zelda game. have successfully resisted for a couple generations now but but but

there's like maybe 6 games tops on any new machine that i'll ever want to play so at least this thing is likely to have a higher hit to shit ratio

I am reasonably certain that the core non-gamer Nintendo audience is not that bothered about VR on their phones. I agree that software needs to be there. I don't think either of us, at this point really have any reason to imagine that this will or won't be greeted by a collective shrug - how enthusiastic were people about the wii at this point?

Like watch the video of Jimmy Fallon flipping out like a gibbering buffoon over this toy and multiply that by the audience that watches Jimmy Fallon, and all these Kotaku-lite posts about how "people" would rather either play Candy Crush or [some difficult PS4 game, I have no concept of this system] look nuts

given that you couldn't buy a wii for love nor money for months after launch, i'd have to say that people were rather more psyched at this point in the hype cycle xp

but i do concede that there's no way of knowing for sure that this point how the switch will pan out

Like watch the video of Jimmy Fallon flipping out like a gibbering buffoon over this toy and multiply that by the audience that watches Jimmy Fallon, and all these Kotaku-lite posts about how "people" would rather either play Candy Crush or [some difficult PS4 game, I have no concept of this system] look nuts

ahem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzsRHGtEWfI

the fallon factor did jack fucking shit for the wii u

i might be reading the Wikipedia page wrong or it might be lying but it says the WiiU has outsold the XBone by over 4 to 1 so Nintendo must be really hurting

looks like for some reason those wikipedia xbox sales figures stop in 2014 as opposed to sep 2016 for the wii u? here's some golobal total sales figures correct as of june last year

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 42,183,599

Xbox One Total Sales: 21,679,269

Wii U Total Sales: 13,139,054

Yeah that's the thing, are people underestimating just how much Wii U has bombed? Because there still seems to be a lot of "but it's the nintendo software that'll sell it" thinking here plus some "kids will love it" but a) neither of those saved the Wii U and b) kids aren't a big enough proportion of gaming's audience any more for you to make them your key target and still sell the kind of volumes consoles do these days.

And yeah, one triple A game at launch and it's one which is also being released on a console I already own (in fairness not many people already own that console so that's not the biggest problem).

(xp)

(yep and those total figs include a year of extra sales for the wii u versus xbox one)

Actually it's odd that they didn't show any Pokemon Stars footage given that it's already confirmed? That really does have potential as a system seller and you'd think they'd be able to get it out within the first few months at least, given that it's basically a port of an already finished game.

one triple A game at launch and it's one which is also being released on a console I already own

i'm pretty sure this has never happened before, although i'm open to being corrected, but it doesn't seem like a great omen does it? and it'll be eight or nine months before mario odyssey comes out, assuming of course it manages to hit its launch window. that's a long time to wait between blockbuster releases

The thing with Wii U, is that it was just like a "better" version of the Wii (who cares). Switch is like "Here is the next generation of both our console and our handheld and working in the digital age." Its a complete reboot of everything and is made totally replace your Wii, your Wii U, your DS, your reliance on "disks," and has an IRL social component that doesn't involve people coming to your living room or bedroom. There is no way this thing isn't going to be huge even if it totally sucks ass

Twilight Princess was Gamecube / Wii, just as the obvious comparison.

But was not the only AAA, true.

IDK Gamecube was fairly successful and I think that went like 2 years from launch with Smash Bros as like the only top-flight title. this is just what they do.

Its a complete reboot of everything and is made totally replace your Wii, your Wii U, your DS

unless you actually want to keep playing the games you've bought on your wii, your wii u, or your ds, in which case you'll have to keep them cuz it's not directly backwards-compatible and nintendo have not been shy about asking users to pay for the same games over and over again on their systems

Uh no? Gamecube had Luigi's Mansion at launch and Mario Sunshine within the first year.

The last clause there is not really necessary for your point, and also nonsense - I can play my GC games on my Wii, and my Wii games on my Wii U.

xp to bg there - though lol at Luigi's Mansion as a top-flight title.

i do think nintendo at least is aware of how much a flop the wii u was, given how much of their switch lineup is retooled reworked versions of the wii u catalogue.

the switch does have some advantages with the general public over the wii u. the name, for instance. i talked to a surprisingly large number of people who thought the wii u was the same as the wii. very hard to sell a console your target audience thinks they already own.

the question which is still open is whether nintendo can survive as a first-party-only console maker. decades of open hostility towards third party software companies (designing systems that are difficult and expensive to program for and then failing to promote third-party games) have taken their toll, and the wii debacle seems to have been the last straw.

couple that with the, uh, questionable leadership situation since iwata's death and, you know, i want them to succeed, but i'm a little uncertain as to how they will.

The last clause there is not really necessary for your point, and also nonsense - I can play my GC games on my Wii, and my Wii games on my Wii U

good luck playing your 3ds virtual console super mario world on your wii or your wii u without paying for it again for each

There's a decent breakdown here of why this isn't looking all rosey: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-13-nintendos-precarious-reveal-runs-risk-of-switching-off-fans

But I dunno, it's not like I'm not going to get one of these myself, probably not at launch but definitely in time for Odyssey - I'm a sucker for non-linear mario games and I'm lucky enough to have disposable income. It's just that I also work in games retail analysis and I know how hard it's been to shift nintendo stuff in general over the last few years. I'd love this to be their big comeback, but it already feels like they're making too many of the same missteps they've made with other recent platforms.

Also Luigi's Mansion was a GREAT game fuiud. Actually so was Star Wars Rogue Leader and that was a gc launch title too.

forgot Mario Sunshine was out in the first year. I thought that came out much later

Luigi's Mansion was dumb. No replay value and you could beat it in 2 days. Rogue Leader was pretty good. But yeah there was a big kerfluffle about how GC really screwed the pooch by not launching w/ a Mario title

personally I think they whiffed hard on the Virtual console - I mean it came right in the middle of the age of Xbox Live, speedruns, and full-on 8-bit nostalgia, and yet they couldn't leverage it into any more exciting than a fancy emulator that was unnecessarily boxed in

I have no disrespect for either of those games, but were they really AAA unit-shifters?

Also how many platforms is 'recent platforms' there?

a handheld with 2.5 hours battery time... i'm old enough to remember the atari lynx. whoever's running nintendo right now perhaps doesn't.

my spouse is a big nintendo fan. we picked up the wii u on launch because it was going to have pikmin on it and we were worried about shortages. pikmin didn't come out for another six months or so and we needn't have worried. nintendo has all of the power to accurately gauge demand of a centrally planned state. for this one, the xenoblade sequel looks promising. if/when it comes out stateside we'll pick up a switch. the mario game... well, it'd have to be really good for us to drop $360 on a mario game.

it probably will be great though

wld nintendo make more money making games for all platforms than having its own 2nd tier platform

probably not

Particularly if, like the Wii, they were making a profit on every console sold. Which is in fairness a reason why their sales dominance wasn't as impressive as it might appear - the competitors were more focussed on deep markets that would buy more games for longer.

do u think it wld be a better strategy for nintendo to view its consoles as loss leaders like the other boys do

Anyone watching the stream? This Snipperclips game is great stuff, Nintendo at their weird yet accessible best

I don't think Nintendo should adopt the strategies of the other boys, good way to become undifferentiated and bad

I do think they should adopt some end of history approach to the console cycle tho

xp I don't see why. Playstation and Microsoft need to be since the hardware required is so powerful and cutting edge. Nintendo's graphics and processing power haven't really been a selling point since the N64.

I do think they should adopt some end of history approach to the console cycle tho

― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, January 13, 2017 1:03 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what wld this look like

I do think they should adopt some end of history approach to the console cycle tho

― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby)

i don't know what this means. i thought "end of history" was some marxist thing.

francis fukuyama demos the new zelda instead of miyamoto

hmm that seems bad

some anti-marxist thing tbrr

in Fukuyama's version it means everybody just agrees video games are as good as they're ever going to be, shuts the fuck up about it and plays endless iterations of CoD for the rest of forever

imo that'd be selling and creating consoles games and that don't see the march of hardware capabilities and the increasing budgets of AAA titles as inevitable

have a library of all the popular games of past generations available on the new consoles, whether via backward compatibility or the ability to download new copies of existing titles you owned on old consoles. if people want to create technically uncomplicated side-scrollers reminiscent of mario or classic mega man, encourage them. the opening up of consoles to have online markets that are similar to steam has led to a bunch of games that are retro-seeming but also very innovative

don't know what Nintendo's role in that could be tho unless there's room for some kind of Super Mario World of Warfare

filthy bleeding mario staring into distance "squishing mushroom men is hell"

rerelease original super mario kart with cleaned up graphics and internet play, no reason not to

i'm okay with the lower specs in the same way that i'm like, okay with not having a 4K tv... feel like current or even last gen tech is good enough. does anybody else share this view? thanks :o)

yeah basically, the gap between this console gen and the previous has never felt justified in terms of advancing tech, and the fidelity of TV images is probably exceeding the capacity of human eyes to process that shit anyway

and STOP TRYING TO MAKE VR HAPPEN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

ha they will never stop

https://i.imgur.com/cjG159h.jpg

vr is gonna be extremely cool in 20 years

yeah I've played it and definitely got the feeling that I'd be way into it if I was 13 and not 30, though my brain would probably completely melt from playing it so much

probably gonna be awesome in 5 years given how much money's poured into it. whether or not it has any staying power is yet to be seen a guess. right now it's just a neat party trick.

i figure it'll be time to buy a VR machine when there's a must play game for it. afaict all the hype is about the technology - i haven't heard of a single platform exclusive game being hyped.

probably gonna be awesome in 5 years given how much money's poured into it.

think people have been saying this about 3D movies since at least 1950

plus lots of video games involve you getting jumped by vicious monsters and the current level of realness of that is plenty for me thx

i'm not sure that a video game will be the first must-have VR app

what do u think it will be

^ xp otm. i'm not convinced we've figured out the best use of this tech yet

in my industry ppl talk about using it to do remote repairs + shit

im not about to stumble blindly through my living room swinging my hands around, so why does that seem to be like the UX that all these vr games have?

Drunkey Kong

ya its funny the vr ppl assume ppl want to actually move around, seem p obvs to me that if it ever succeeds players will still be sitting on their couches holding controllers

...with their doors locked

my idea for the VR hackathon at work was to create a fake "calibration" app whose purpose was to make the user look as ridiculous as possible to onlookers by having them do stupid shit to "calibrate" the headset. no one wanted to work on that with me

lmao

https://i.imgur.com/iBrpj61.jpg

yeah my brother got one of these and it was like 5 minutes of setting up 'boundaries' and what not, the whole duck n' weave aspect is neat but I don't see how video games + exercise is gonna beat plain ol' video games

plus I'm pretty sure people are gonna get seriously injured thanks to these things. someone's gonna hit a well and fall awkwardly since they have no semblance of where they are. or step on a child or a dog or something. god forbid.

does seem like there would be some cool applications in arcade-style settings though. already hearing talk of roller coasters using these which seems absolutely terrifying, but also great. that said I also have been hearing about VR conventions where everyone ends up with pink eye, so lol

have a library of all the popular games of past generations available on the new consoles, whether via backward compatibility or the ability to download new copies of existing titles you owned on old consoles. if people want to create technically uncomplicated side-scrollers reminiscent of mario or classic mega man, encourage them. the opening up of consoles to have online markets that are similar to steam has led to a bunch of games that are retro-seeming but also very innovative

― mh 😏, Friday, January 13, 2017 10:34 AM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is approx what I had in mind, have a library in perpetuity, sell console hardware that maintains the same architecture and hardware features Forever, charge people $X to play online, every 1p Nintendo game that doesn't require special hardware available forever on one platform, make their money off Amiibo margins, don't play the Console Generation game against Xbox and Playstation

slightly torn on Switch but leaning no, or waiting until the holiday season.
as said above Mario and Zelda look great but do I want to pay $300+60+60 for 2 games
not to mention the accessories/extra controllers you need (def would get a Pro controller, another $70-80)
and Scorpio comes out in the winter. never got an XB1 so that's tempting (plus backwards compat on that one i think?)

yeah basically, the gap between this console gen and the previous has never felt justified in terms of advancing tech, and the fidelity of TV images is probably exceeding the capacity of human eyes to process that shit anyway

DoA

― self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Friday, January 13, 2017 8:58 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the killer app for VR is concerts/sporting events.

"Blown away by visuals" is at best orthogonal to "enjoying playing this game", though.

the mario preview just makes me think of sonic adventure

hahaha as soon I read that the song from SA2 started up in my head

GOTTA FOLLOW THAT RAINBOW!!!

shit man that was like 16 years ago, the last time I really cared about video games

https://twitter.com/williefitz/status/819788898180087814

lol

Was trying to think about what the hardware team is doing now. Normally I'd assume they devote time to finishing up the next DS thing, but then I realized they just did that.

So what's the next Nintendo portable: a little all-in-one Switch with better battery life?

oh i'm sure, especially as components get cheaper they'll keep making new ones. hell DS/3DS got how many different versions? felt like one almost every year

They just sort of made the new portable, is my point. The product lines have converged.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohfFmccsVpGkoIwZq/giphy.gif

this looks sick.

if they aren't making games for a separate portable console then that is good news! it would double the software available on Nintendo machines! all those remasters and cool things like Zelda a Link Between Worlds that came out on 3ds can now be produced for this HD console/portable hybrid.

are they really gonna kill the 3DS? i thought that was successful

now i can't stop thinking about combining the game mechanics of mario 64 and tony hawk's pro skater

3DS is super successful. it did come out 6 years ago tho!

i wonder how far they will go with the tablet functionality. it uses the same kind of touch screen as iPhone, so maybe you will be able to play your iPhone games and apps over your Switch? is Apple close at all with Sony or Microsoft? lol wait forget i asked about Microsoft.

Switch uses a capacitive touchscreen - like a modern phone, allowing for gliding motions and light touch - whereas the Wii U had a resistive, pressure-sensitive touchscreen, requiring the use of a stylus. this is a good sign.

this system will always be the Nintendo NX to me

I didn't say kill the goddamn 3DS you infuriating morons

I just meant if you're the chief of new hardware design at Nintendo, are you working on a new handheld cartridge-based console right now? Not likely, you just made one!

Karl Malone
Posted: January 13, 2017 at 9:23:31 PM
this system will always be the Nintendo NX to me

the bookmark

what has been made cannot be unmade

was has been booked must always be marked

993 01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:58,767 Has the bookmark been destroyed?
994 01:30:13,241 --> 01:30:14,282 Negative.
995 01:30:16,994 --> 01:30:18,829 the mark remains.
996 01:30:21,541 --> 01:30:24,876 I repeat, the mark remains.
997 01:30:29,257 --> 01:30:31,258 Call the other planes back back.
998 01:30:31,342 --> 01:30:34,469 The others might have more luck. We shouldn't give up!
999 01:30:34,554 --> 01:30:36,596 I said call them back!
1000 01:30:39,434 --> 01:30:41,601 -Abort. -Abort mission.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohfFIJ9M9XCUkE6Na/giphy.gif

mario makes that look really easy but what he's doing there is actually really hard to pull off

I'm extremely impressed by the hardware but they really should have shown us more games considering the Wii U drought. Just show me two seconds of a Kirby thing at least.

Mario is the greatest parkourer in the world.

Kept expecting him to stick a goomba with a hidden wristblade.

Traceur. Or parkourist.

And you could not convince me that the sport wasn't inspired by 2D platformers of which SMB is the undisputed granddaddy so your statement is entirely true

the hardware seems to be reviewing very well, the rumble in particular which I was v sceptical about

man, ever see a 120 star super mario 64 speedrun? that shit is parkour out the wazoo

The TAS even more so, balletic even.

full mario trailer, looks pretty bonkers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqIGmiNV1U&t=78s

unfortunately this isn't coming until the end of the year. zelda and some of the other games don't look quite as exciting

here's the link if that version doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqIGmiNV1U&t=78s

ughh.... sorry everyone

mario youtube link

plus I'm pretty sure people are gonna get seriously injured thanks to these things. someone's gonna hit a well and fall awkwardly since they have no semblance of where they are. or step on a child or a dog or something. god forbid.

― frogbs, Friday, 13 January 2017 19:23

This sounds like a scary possibility. I bet Nintendo would be reluctant to go the VR route for these reasons.

I've seen clips of a Switch game that looks like a Japanese historical fantasy thing, anyone know what it is?

I'm surprised by the high prices. When the console was announced they were saying it was created mainly for the Chinese market whose gamers mostly can't afford regular consoles. So they could dominate the Chinese market. Didn't they also make out it wasn't supposed to be considered their next big console? Maybe they ditched all these plans?

Really don't like the look of Mario in a realistic city with regular shaped people. Booooo.

Mario Galaxy 2 was amazing.

Mario in a city does look a bit Sonic Adventure. But other than that, the game looks great.

Japanese historical game is either Romance of 3 Kingdoms or Nobunaga's Ambition, both out on Japanese launch with no western dates yet.

But no regions!

I just realized I might be able to get a Super Robot Wars title on this thing that's worth playing. Please?

...

Alternatively, the lack of region lock might mean very little 3rd party IP wherever international rights are messy.

i like Mario in the real world. in 10 years they will have a holographic AR Mario who does parkour around your house, this is the first step.

Reminds me too much of Grand Theft Auto.

When the talk was on the Chinese market I saw the Chinese gaming censorship rules and I can't remember them but it was a little worrying that all sorts of developers might change their games to fall within the rules. It's not just sex and violence, it had a lot of implications. Maybe it's over-paranoid to say there might be no more super-camp characters in Zelda.

have you seen the new trailer for BOTW? some very campy looking characters briefly shown in that.

wtf am i reading this right? Nintendo Switch's bundled Joy-Con grip doesn't charge controllers

you need to spend an extra £28 to play the switch on your tv and charge your controller at the same time?

although i guess i shouldn't be that surprised since nintendo stopped bundling any kind of charger at all with the 3ds a few years ago

so if you buy a switch, an extra joycon and for the sake of economy just one charging grip you'll be spending the better part of £400 before even buying a game to play on it

yikes

I'd be stunned if the Mario game wound up anything short of incredible

it's nintendo, of course it's going to be great

for the record I thought the "Sonic in the city" bits of SA were the best parts of the game. would be nice to see something really expansive again - while I do like it when games guide you a bit to prevent you from getting lost, Galaxy sort of forced it a bit; most of the game was "do this, then go here, then do this", almost no wide open spaces like what Sunshine had. not that Galaxy wasn't excellent though

gritty open world mario reboot imo

and bullet time

the joycons seem painfully small to use, at least when they're in the split-off mode where you "share the joy" (lol) with someone

here, share the joy of using a gamepad with a joystick 6 mm away from the A button.

ya thought the same

the first 3rd party controller has been announced!

http://i.imgur.com/FOcL1Lo.jpg

i wish the saitek p990 was still in production and that every game console was required to use it

InterAct HammerHead FX 4 LYFE, hatrz

new idea for NX controller: the buttons are so close together that you must use "JoyPicks" - 10 mm long, 1mm thick steel rods - to "play" the joycon like a drum. for only $29 more per joyPick, add a motion-sensitive joybubble camera to the back and share the experience with your nintendo friends in the MiiVerse!!

You're being funny, but the Switch XL is coming out in Q4

there would probably be nothing stopping them from releasing an updated "tablet" in a few years that can use the same cradle and joycon etc, aside from, you know, being nintendo and making you buy everything over again.

xpost

yeah, and nintendo is really no worse with all the optional/mandatory purchases than sony or microsoft. i remember feeling unbelievably lucky when i somehow got my dad to buy a playstation 1 for me for christmas back when it came out and was crazy expensive. and then the sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach, soon afterward, when i realized i had to ask him for $20 to go buy a memory card so i could save the fucking game

Do I remember right that the original X-Box controllers were hilariously large?

yes you do

the cynical part of me thinks they totally did that on purpose

it's totally hilarious that Nintendo is releasing two separate, highly touted, nationwide campaign-abetted, national news-dominating video game systems within the span four months; and no normal person can possibly buy either of them

like its literal place in the market is for the "casual gamer" but no person who is casual about gaming is going to camp out outside a fucking Game Stop

yeah, I don't get it. Is it worth that much more to build up hype than it is to just sell these outright? I'd really like to get one or both for my son, but don't have the wherewithal to make it happen. Very frustrating.

So does Nintendo just have a totally fucked supply chain? You can barely even get a 3DS..

what other system is it releasing (or has released)?

Classic Mini NES I guess

NES Classic, which you also cannot buy.

wouldn't surprise me if they brought back NES classic (or SNES classic) next xmas

Wii U was tough to get at launch, but soon enough very easy to get iirc

srsly though, are they still afraid of flooding the market '80s-style nightmares?

So does Nintendo just have a totally fucked supply chain? You can barely even get a 3DS..

― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby)

their supply chain is run by brezhnev's ghost

guessing they're doing it on purpose? the difficulty of obtaining the original Wii was a bigger story than anything the console actually did

come now, that's not true. the Wii won its generation in units sold and mainstream popularity. grandmas etc etc

it won in the end yeah but like i said upthread there were months and months after launch where they were just impossible to find, whether through accident or design

the thought did occur to me as well that maybe they're deliberately creating scarcity as a way to manufacture the appearance of switchmania

It outsold the PS3 and the Xbox combined in its first year.

The 360 that is.

you definitely couldn't just walk into a store and buy a Wii for quite a while, i remember this well

i waited w a crowd of people in that glass walmart antechamber from like 5:15-5:59 AM to get a wii. last time i ever did anything like that.

I think part of it is Nintendo's relatively conservative stance on warehousing and their views on profitability. afaik they're still the only ones who don't take a loss on the console itself, and I think part of that extends to not ramping up more production lines than needed or warehousing units before shipping.

yeah, i was signed up for a website that would send me alerts when wiis were in stock in online retailers and it took a couple of weeks before i managed to actually respond to an alert within the five minute window you'd have before they sold out again.

and i had to buy a bundle with a couple of games i didn't really want because retailers realised that idiots like me would pay extra if it meant getting a console :(

even the NES Classic had forced bundles with dumb extras this season. i gave up early

lots of indie goodies coming this year.... some ace stuff here for local multiplayer/co-op

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5xOVQeWUAA9hbH.png

Did anyone here ever pick up their GameCube by the handle and carry it over to their friend's house like it was a lunchbox? Nintendo seems to really like this idea that everyone is constantly packing up their console and setting it up at different locations, like it happens so frequently that the entire console must be tiny and include a handle.

You have to bring it everywhere because only like one person you know is allowed to have one

which is why all games must allow four players, iirc

who the fuck would risk walking down the street with it like that? Hi muggers have a free nintedo.

people who think you're a jerk and will "accidentally" run into you or smack it out of your hands are a lot more common than muggers imo

http://i.imgur.com/Tlc5XKR.png

they would take some heat for it but they should go ahead and add a radio antenna and dual cassette deck to this thing. also maybe add a secret compartment to store amiibos and dildos

http://i.imgur.com/WdANfln.png

http://i.imgur.com/OCcxoSt.png

http://i.imgur.com/w8zQ6Fy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KdjOUHv.png
"say, who wants to get liquored up and competitively jerk-off imaginary cocks with our joycons?"

Did anyone here ever pick up their GameCube by the handle and carry it over to their friend's house like it was a lunchbox? Nintendo seems to really like this idea that everyone is constantly packing up their console and setting it up at different locations, like it happens so frequently that the entire console must be tiny and include a handle.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 1, 2017 10:16 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

esp funny given how many nerds at the time were willing to lug their entire pc rigs to lan parties

https://twitter.com/9_volt88/status/836974155954274304

bwahahaha

I want a switch :(

fuckin nintendo, with their desirable prods

Nintendo has had a great track record with properly functioning hardware right? The Gamecube memory cards were dodgy sometimes and my Nintendo DS died after several years but they're generally great.

PS2 had one of the best game libraries ever but never forget how fragile that thing was in any version. I think PS3 and the first two XBoxes were also unreliable.

not gonna lie i loved the little gamecube handle even though i never used it

still afraid this will flop badly

the first two open jingles here play in my head all the time; i'm gonna be real and say i never heard the third one till i just opened this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctYQ08gxkqA

Nintendo hardware being good was one of the things that made them win in the 80s when everyone else was failing. They started a program to fix broken consoles back when it was rare to do so, and this assuaged the fears of retailers still reeling from the video game crash. Personally I've never had a Nintendo product fail on me and this includes systems i found used that kept playing games for years.

Bring on the big budget Zeldas/Marios! They need to just keep pumping them out, every couple of years. Those two games alone look way more impressive and fun than anything from the Wii/Wii U generations.

Basically, they need games.

There are reports of latches on the joycon breaking if you drop them.

Front-loading NESes all broke. SNES is fine besides the discoloration. N64 is great. Gamecube memory cards break from heat. Wii remotes needed condoms because people were idiots. Gameboys are immortal. DS and 3DS have shoulder triggers that become unreliable after time, and the hinges on the DSlite would break.

met some teens who are super into playing smash bros on the cube

there was a p convincing video going around by some nintendo fanboy about how this is really just a soft launch for the console and the 'real' release is the holiday season where there will possibly be a price drop and also mario. the logic being that that's essentially what happened with the 3DS a few years ago

it'd be nice if that were true cause if this flops and stays flopped like wii u this then yikes

wld post video but on phone at work

dont all consoles kinda do that

i want this. can i just go to a store and buy it?

dont all consoles kinda do that

― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 1, 2017 6:44 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they certainly don't drop their price within 8 months of release

vid here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f457Q3p1EU

literally forgot it was a fucking puppet. idk.

"There are reports of latches on the joycon breaking if you drop them."

hate to be a nintendo fanboy but there was just one report and the giantbomb guys followed it up to specifically say they dropped it on concrete... so yeah, they will break if you break them. on concrete.

catastrophic news for this nintendo enthusiast

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/06/03/hardcore-gamer.jpg

Zelda reviewing well, 98 metacritic so far

"The best Zelda there’s ever been, and very possibly the best video game ever made."

Took a look at metacritic. Yeah, it's reviewing very well. Wow. My brother is buying it tomorrow, guess I know how I'll spend my weekend.

yeeeep pretty hyped to play this tomorrow.

http://dystify.com/images/banner01.png

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/1/14778316/nintendo-switch-cartridge-taste-test-dont-lick-it

i mean im sure zelda is really good but this is the kinda of praise that EVERY zelda game gets initially

i played one of the recent ones for wii - it was like a zelda rpg? idk you run around a bunch following directions and fight these huge mobs of soldiers and i don't remember there being any puzzles and it was multiplayer? it kinda blew.

Skyward Sword got a lot of criticism for the motion controls (and there was a lot of back and forth if the reviewers even understood how they worked) and the sheer amount of info text/tutorials.

Which put me off and I couldn't be bothered after the first hour.

I never figured out the motion controls. Bought it with my little brother, I have still not made it past the first dungeon :(

Mordy, sounds like you played Hyrule Warriors which was a Dynasty Warriors game with Zelda trappings.

I loved Skyward Sword motion controls and all, looking forward to the new approach too though

i don't wanna switch

Skyward Sword got a lot of criticism for the motion controls (and there was a lot of back and forth if the reviewers even understood how they worked) and the sheer amount of info text/tutorials.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:40 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Which put me off and I couldn't be bothered after the first hour.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:45 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The third main criticism was how linear it was, and/or how there was nothing to explore.

I would mind that too much. I was mainly scared off by the long cutscenes and hearing that every time you load the game up and get rupees (money) it tells you what they are every time.
I might give it another shot someday.

rupees (money)

Just in case someone hasn't played Zelda or doesn't remember.

it's only what currencies used by like 1/3 of the planet are called

how is he supposed to remember that without a tutorial screen

i mean im sure zelda is really good but this is the kinda of praise that EVERY zelda game gets initially

OoT is supposedly the highest rated game ever, yet I find it painful and uninteresting. This though, looks right up my alley.

I look forward to my trip to India in which I'll cut grass, smash pots and bump into trees and lug those huge rupees around in my brown cloth bag.

the best two zeldas are still in this order lttp > ocarina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjQefYbFFYo

3.38 for the payoff

The payoff is that if you ask Nintendo, they say "Yeah they taste terrible on purpose"

so far i've seen game reviewers:

drop the Switch on concrete
punch the controls out of the holder
eat Switch gamecards

did these people eat paint when they were kids?

the best two zeldas are still in this order lttp > ocarina

no way, the first NES game is number one.

idk if it's better than lttp but you're right it is better than ocarina

They ate Mario Paint when they were kids.

Re: Zelda - Critics seem to like the part where you have to forage for food and cook yourself a meal to heal yourself (or something)? Yeah, I wish MarioKart made you spend time at the mechanic between races.

lttp is the best zelda game, the one ppl r complaining abt upthread isnt real

Blasphemy I know but I found A Link To The Past tedious too often, although I have fond memories of parts of it. I love Link's Awakening but the Zelda series is a rare example of me mostly preferring the 3d games. Ocarina is my favourite.

i need to replay LttP. i loved it when i had it but i almost can't seem to go back to it. like Super Mario World, it feels almost too perfect.

I think Super Mario World is a vastly better game.

Twilight Princess was fucking epic

i don't want to be hyperbolic here, but if u don't love lttp u might be hitler. really consider this

Well I'm Hitler then. There's lots of great parts but most of it Is a chore. Too much fucking walking and the dungeons were too dull.

lttp is the best zelda game
lttp is the best zelda game
lttp is the best zelda game

i did like how the first time you transport to the gritty dark realm you turn into a giant bunny.

lttp is the best zelda game
http is the best website prefix

otm

it's times like these that remind me why ilx is the best <3 u guys lttp is the best zelda game

links awakening is the best zelda game

Final Fantasy VI (ファイナルファンタジーVI Fainaru Fantajī Shikkusu?, also known as Final Fantasy III for its initial North American release) is the best zelda game

I really enjoyed Twilight Princess but it comes across as very compromised. There was said to be lots of direction changes during development. I think Zant was originally supposed to be the end boss but then they changed it to be more like Ocarina to secure western sales.
I think the wolf transformation thing was a waste of time because they didn't really do much with it.

Wasn't much into Windwaker apart from "KABOOM! SPLAAAASH!"

Link Between Worlds is super fun too, although not better than LTTP.

If I had gotten around to Ocarina before Twilight Im willing to believe it could have felt less awesome but I played them in the wrong order so to me, Twilight felt pretty revelatory.

I'm not planning on buying a Switch since I don't play much games anymore, but it's sort of killing me that I can't play Breath of the Wild.

I'm going to get one later this year after some more patches and indies have come out. I pretty much agree with everything the blue puppet said.

twlight princess has some of the coolest dungeons of the 3d zeldas but overall as a game its a distant 4th to ocarina majora windwaker imo

(still b etter than skyward sword and possibly those weird DS ones that ive never played nor heard any praise for)

actually maybe distant is too harsh, i do enjoy it

links awakening is the best zelda game

― ciderpress, Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:41 PM (yesterday)

otm

https://68.media.tumblr.com/7f5b1568382f01682d0228efe6c9559b/tumblr_nja5c1WMSG1r9ceedo1_500.gif

twlight princess has some of the coolest dungeons of the 3d zeldas

― ciderpress, Friday, 3 March 2017 00:03

Apart from the big snowman's house I got really tired of the dungeons. I think Twilight Princess excelled when you were out in the wider world. The ending fights against Ganondorf were pretty great too. But In some ways it is my favourite Zelda.

best thing about link's awakening = the trading game
worst thing about link's awakening = the stupid it was all a dream ending

thought Ocarina was kinda average when I played for the first time a couple of years ago. same for Chrono Trigger ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Link's Awakening on the other hand was a total joy with a really great dreamlike atmosphere, I wasn't totally surprised when I read that they were influenced by Twin Peaks.

The trading game is the one constant feature of all Zeldas!

Majora's Mask is probably my favourite 3D Zelda, but then I did recently replay Windwaker on the Wii-U remaster (where you can get a 'magic sail' early on that lets you sail twice as fast and with the wind always at your back - I cannot it turns out muster any gamer's masochistic outrage over this) - man that is a sweet game. Then Ocarina, Twilight Princess - I have yet to play Swinging Sword, and to be honest I wouldn't bet on that happening before I get a Switch and devour the new one.

Loved that little shop keeper who shocked you to death if you stolen from him.

Surprised I can't find any clips of the evil farmer or the butch villager from Ocarina shouting. That was hilarious.

I sometimes thought you had to be there to appreciate Ocarina and maybe games influenced by it taken away it's magic but I've heard some newer players say they adored it. Which is a relief.

love that if you stole from the shop keeper the game called u THIEF instead of yr name for the rest of the game

THIEF checked the chest.
Nice chest!

worst thing about link's awakening = the stupid it was all a dream ending

― Mordy, Friday, 3 March 2017 00:25 (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf the clue's in the title

The trading game is the one constant feature of all Zeldas!

i don't remember this in any of the zeldas that preceded link's awakening!

i only like weird lil ball shaped stubby link when hes got normal human proportions im out

links awakening debuted the trading sequence yes

ballad of the wind fish > zelda's lullaby

Re: Zelda - Critics seem to like the part where you have to forage for food and cook yourself a meal to heal yourself (or something)? Yeah, I wish MarioKart made you spend time at the mechanic between races.

― DJI, Thursday, March 2, 2017 5:49 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is what stuck out to me watching those preview vids every publication was putting together last week, like 90% of the videos were focusing on all these little management/simulation features nintendo threw in and acting like they reinvented the wheel

i'm guessing/hoping it was because the content embargo seemed to be VERY limiting and this crap was all they were allowed to talk about

but shit like foraging for food, weapon degradation, a stamina bar that looks punishing as fuck, these things have already been done a million times and they seem so extra in a zelda game of all things

otm it looks like garbage to me

Saying "excuuuuuuuuse me, princess!" to your wife when she's annoyed with you is the best zelda game.

from the giant bomb review

Most shrines feature hidden treasure chests. Frequently, these contain equipment like melee weapons, bows, or shields. I lost track of how many times I’d get to one, only to be told that my inventory was full. When this happened, I’d step away from the chest, cycle through what I was holding, and toss several items at my feet before grabbing my new toy. It’s frustrating at times, but you thankfully can upgrade your storage capacity by collecting hidden seeds and delivering them to a specific character.

minish cap was rad too

"10/10 best game ever - along w/its usual unrivalled sense of wonder zelda now comes with all of the annoying ish that makes WRPGs so shit!"

But it doesn't have the annoying shit of WRPGS. You're not endlessly updating levels and grinding for skill points. You're not running after things to craft. Your weapons break, but then you just pick up another one from the enemy or use your physics playground to take them out in other ways. Weapons breaking is not a sign you have to grind for more, it's just part of the playful unpredictability of enemy encounters. You climb towers, but not to see your map dotted with symbols you dutifully run around picking off - you have to look around the landscape yourself and see if anything interests you, mark it down and head off, even if you don't know what it is until you get there. You hear about a legendary beast or a village with a secret, but only in hints, so that exploration becomes your tool, not a GPS arrow.

This is the absolute opposite of every WRPG game. Instead of checklists _play_ is encouraged at every step of your way. Where in other such games you'd trigger a cut scene and be led to a new area, here you're choosing wether to put grass on fire to chase away guarding enemies, catapult something heavy at them or glide in from a higher level. You interact with the world in a way that seems instinctively right in the moment, not in a way you're instructed to, or that's dictated by menus and numbers.

man i really like menus and numbers

Grand Theft Triforce: Don't Starve Edition actually does sound like amazing fun

just got mine, feels nice and UI is super snappy. really appreciate how simple it is to add accounts from different regions and quickly access the different eshops on the same device. touched a cart with my tongue and it tasted awful! now to lose myself in GTA Hyrule.

Please don't mention GTA.

Although this still sounds good, it's a worry that they're introducing things that have become really boring and homogeneous in games. SuperBunnyHop did a good video about this sort of stuff a few years ago.

https://twitter.com/DiscreetLatino/status/820024873896603648

I just sold my Switch.

those of you with zelda pls report back on whether the gameplay is more fun / less aimless sandboxy than it looks. my initial impression is that its a game that i can just watch ppl stream and not miss out on some deep participatory experience unlike the best zelda games of the past

suspect mario odyssey is the game that will actually make me break down and buy this thing, can't really get my mario64 acrobatics fix elsewhere

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6ARg6nWUAATY6c.jpg

anyone able to report on what the Zelda game is like on WiiU ?

i will soon

Played the first hour or so of Zelda. It feels like a 3D version of the first game except huuuuuuge. Nothing that has struck me as WRPG at all. Not a huge fan of the joycon thumbsticks or the v thin L & R buttons. Downloaded the Tetris PuyoPuyo demo from the JP shop, it downloaded in the background and played it on my EU account. Region free at last.

im starting to talk myself into getting one of these now but idk what the availability is gonna be like after this first wave. is it looking like wii where you have to camp out to get one for the entire first year?

Imported the japanese ps4 version of puyo-puyo tetris a while back and can confirm that it is extremely great

Got an hour to kill here at work then it is Zelda time! Wii U version.

https://twitter.com/NeoGAFNewThread/status/837718513561264128

to paraphrase an old doctor's saying, if sliding the switch in and out of the dock hurts so much, then quit jerkin off your switch

I'm hype for zelda was just being a dick. screen issue is actually the first genuinely legit concern I've seen tho

ppl need to embrace impermanence jus my imo

you'll be no-casing ur iphone at that rate

I have never put a case on any iPhone of mine.

Aren't people going to put screen protectors on their Switches anyway?

Some semi-spoilers depending on what you consider spoilers -

zelda is crazy, tons of fun, a top wiiu title for sure. the graphics seem a little grainy at times if that's something that bothers you, but the art style is pretty solid, and the vibe is reminiscent of shadow of the collosus imo, in the sense of isolation in a foreign world. the story is pretty compelling so far. the real star is the mechanics. you can climb basically anything, surf on your shield, and glide eventually. probably other stuff too. i really dig cooking, you need to do it for health but also for buffs some of which are required to advance in certain areas. right now everything is still expanding in all directions but at least as of a few hours in it is really great. there are also abilities that create interesting utility in certain situations and i think at some point robots might be a thing but i can't confirm yet

make another thread immediately please

yeh i got a Shadow of Collosus vibe too, with the isolation and the grip meter. the little details are fun too - was climbing at night and came across a camp of baddies at the top. They were asleep around the fire, but I walked too loudly which woke them up. They got up and ran to the back of the camp - haha they are scared of me I thought, so I chased after them. Then I realised too late that they'd stored all their weapons at the back and had gone to retrieve them. They turned quickly with weapons raised and suddenly it was 4 on 1. I died.

theres already a breath of the wild thread iirc

this is kinda boring, it's too easy to die and I can't tell where I am supposed to be going. also getting real real sick of falling off the tower and dying.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

damn this is sold out everywhere. i went online to almost buy this on a whim (i've heard Zelda is low-res but i use a projector) and it is sold out everywhere. i tried all the stores in my state and there is nothing in stock. then i went to amazon and found a console and Zelda for $350. by the time i got to the shipping page, it was gone, someone else had already bought it.

that was me.
*plays awesome zelda game*

jk, i wish nintendo was just a software company. i would love to play zelda so much right now.

I hope there's a good CastleVania in the works for Adam

my favorite jackson browne lyric

yeah anywhere you could possibly buy it or reserve it online is sold out. supposedly the big box stores like target and best buy that do in-store purchase only have some but there's no way to know for sure without making the trip.

So it's not as big a flop as we feared?

Oh, I hope my brother buys this soon so I can try it :)

lol Sufjan. Bloodstained looks like it will be cool. and i can't believe they are actually a Castlevania cartoon. i think it involves people from Adventure Time so that's pretty promising.

i wonder if any ILXors will experience the technical issues getting reported like the controllers losing sync etc. wouldn't surprise me if that was just the internet blowing up edge cases out of proportion as usual.

I would love to play a castlevania revamp on this thing

or another top down zelda

breath of the wild was prototyped in 2d

watching twitch streams and i super want to play this btw

cant find any info about when the next restock is gonna be

seen it available online in forced bundles throughout the weekend, just keep shooting for it

I watched a bit of a 1-2-Switch stream last night. It looks like you'd need to be drinking for it to be fun.

Just realised that the ghosts in Mario are a lot like most cows, they only come towards you when you turn your back on them.

Glancing at the Zelda thread, peering at the glimpses of the retro-2D Square RPG, and skimming a stupid clickbait Gamespot article about the system's exclusives has me bizarrely tempted to buy a new console and games for it for the first time since um... begging my parents for a Genesis. (Not counting picking up a PS in 2000 or abusing my roommate's XBox 360 or whatever.) I mean: Arms is an arena fighting game where up to two players play duke it out as combatants with extendable arms. Shut up and take my money!

I want one of these so bad it's exacerbating my anxiety

same

it really sells itself, it's a wonderfully slick piece of hardware. seeing it in person was just a !!!! moment where i went from 'will probably get this' to 'need one immediately hellp'. it didn't fully register that this zelda game is on a HANDHELD until i saw it.

I'm going to be cynical AF and continue to spend my beer money as labeled until there's a day 60 patch and there's a Terraria port with non-local multiplayer. I think. I can't believe I'm saying any of that.

Terraria port is already confirmed for this year (dont know about co-op though). Minecraft too which should really expand the reach to a lot of people given Vitas are so hard to find.

Been playing local co-op bouts of King Of Fighters 98 and Metal Slug 3 in the office this week with the joycons - so much quick pick up and play fun. great little machine.

im still holding out for another good title before i go in on this. feeling burned by wiiu tbh and want to see further evidence that this isn't that

i would be all in on switch versions of xenoblade, splatoon, mario maker, the newest DK and Smash bros... presuming those are on the way plus nu-zelda/nu-mario is probably gonna sell me this system once it is available/money woes are properly put in order/hardware and software are in v2.1

splatoon 2 and xenoblade 2 are already announced for this year

and nu-mario is supposed to be the big holiday release obv

splatoon 2 and xenoblade 2 are already announced for this year

― ciderpress

xenoblade 2 is projected for 2017 just in japan, right? and that's not a firm release date and could very easily be delayed. if/when xenoblade 2 hits in r1 we will be getting a switch... not sure if the mario alone will be enough to push us over the edge.

i'm just ready to play the first one tbh

by "the first one" do you mean x? the first one was on the wii and ported to the "new 3ds". x was the wii u one.

right, right: xenoblade 1 was wii (which was impossible to get even when i had a wii attached to my television) right?
i'm finally a generation behind.

yeah, the original xenoblade chronicles was massively underprinted in r1, and was only released in the first place as a result of "operation rainfall"; the apparent belief was that nobody was interested in jrpgs in the west. if you didn't pre-order it, you probably didn't get to buy it.

u kno what game was awesome? xenogears.

for real

plot summary takes 1,285 words on wikipedia

we need a xenogears thread
to torture ZS with (Dragon Quest VIII)

the pain

but yes, xenogears is so good

xenogears was approximately as good as xenosaga wasn't

"xenogears did what xentendidn't"

I had the same issue with Xenogears! I couldn't get past a boss, but given where I was saved I also couldn't backtrack to level up.

oh hey I found the thread I made ELEVEN YEARS AGO

Xenogears, bitches

i have flagged the thread for rude title

https://www.etsy.com/shop/CanleCreations

Home of the Original Microfiber Dock Sock!

cute i admit

It's good know that Etsy is there when Japan doesn't seem to care

you never forget your first dock sock

Square will be putting all the Seiken Densetsus on Switch (in Japan)

http://www.polygon.com/2017/3/21/15010382/square-enix-secret-of-mana-collection-nintendo-switch-seiken-densetsu-final-fantasy-adventure

switch isn't region locked right? so you could play them in japanese if localization doesn't happen

With all their remakes how have they never gotten off their guff to do the SD series in English

been thinking about it and if they do bring over SD3 to the US in English, i'll buy a Switch for that

https://venturebeat.com/2017/03/22/wii-u-emulator-team-has-huge-parts-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-working-on-pc/

uhh wld it be worth it to run windows on a 3 year old macbook

best option is a rpi emulating nintendo ds emulating a bootcamp mac emulating the work-in-progress pc version, or an iphone video in portrait mode showing the results of that, even better

hmm what abt just watching ppl the game on youtube

srs quesh cld i run all the wii/wii u mario games on my rig

Played snipperclips last night with my niece

Cute game

i can run the mario galaxy games on my pc which has a fairly midrange video card (gtx 960)

damn this is exciting news the mac emus for gamecube basically dont work lol

yeah like you do need an actual video card i think, i couldn't get them to run on my previous laptop

how do i make a video card on my lappy

expensively apparently

i tried 1.7.3d of this emulator. the game ran at 9fps and everything in the world was like 3 feet under the ground.

they are making quick progress and also making $20k+ of donations, which i am kind of iffy about. this being a brand new game and all and them getting paid to make it free. its a crowdsourced piracy.

5,737
patrons
$24,402
per month

https://www.patreon.com/cemu

that probably should get shut down tbh

should we have a separate thread to discuss crime, I feel like it deserves its own thread

yeah emulating current games is not in my range of emulation interest

i love crimes

this is not released in korea, but definitely going to pick one up when i'm in japan in may

i really don't understand who would choose to play zelda on their pc instead of buying one of these (if you have a pc than can emulate it, i assume you can afford to)

can anyone really afford to pay $400 for one game? plus the time commitment

time commitment = do you think the emulated version comes with a 'press here for rupee$' button? I mean, it might, I don't know.

that is basically what everyone does when they buy a launch system, no? how many have two games worth playing at the outset

the switch is a handheld, emulating it on a PC is pretty far from the same thing

i am on dis ting now - it's fucking great, basically the most gorgeous handheld ever that also happens to connect to your teevee

if any ilxors wanna be nintendobuds my friend code is sw-3945-2059-5597

(i'll be easy prey in mario kart btw, i suck)

so hyped for mario kart delivery on friday. its a great little machine.

i can't wait to be able to walk into a store and buy one of these

we picked one up last week. Came with Zelda, Shovel Knight, Has Been Heroes, and Snipperclips. So far Zelda is the big draw, the other games are ok. Any other current games out there that I should be looking at?

there's not much else yet, next major thing is a port of the last mario kart, and then splatoon 2 after that.

I Am Setsuna is a fun Square rpg throwback. also King Of Fighters 98 for some dual joycon multiplayer times.

i just started Shovel Knight on PS4. that game is super tight

I saw a kid with one of them standing on a rush hour metro yesterday and just smh

Kamiko is well worth the five bucks they are asking on eshop, it's a simple Zeldaesque game that can be played through in an hour although I see time attack people already getting that down to less than 10 minutes lol. Enjoyed the developers previous Fairune games on 3DS and this feels like a step up from those.

multiplayer Mario kart 8 on this in the office is heavenly

Puyo Puyo is one hell of a thing once you get the basic gist of it.

i've been getting sonned hardcore on online puyo puyo, it's really shredded my sense of self-worth