Mother 3! The sequel to Earthbound!

hee hee. it's like they have gantt charts & everything.

"And on THIS month, we'll be releasing the following:..."

for the same reason they made GB/GBC games for 12 years, prolly. Established user base?

still, I'll probably be picking up a DS sometime this year(assuming I get this new job), so's I can play it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA4aJnYOChE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFlOLTp2aM&search=Mother

I'LL STILL BUY IT THO.

the untranslated r0m is out there, tho, if you know where to look.

yeah, i said it. also, if they call it "NWii" for short, do you pronounce it like ennui? It might open a whole new avenue for puns if the big names start calling it the NWii (a la NGC, PSX, etc)

When the hell is this happening?

12th of never

the two groups working independently decided to join forces, so it's continuing. Nintendo still won't port the thing.

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/01/DSPrintsMoney.jpg

there's an animated gif of that

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/archives/License%20to%20Print%20Money.gif

Sadly, a huge number of fan translations never see the light of day, and I still don't actually think I've seen one for the Nintendo DS... I really, really want to see this happen. See also: Mother 1+2 NA release. Seriously, Nintendo is silly for not doing this. If I were Nintendo, I'd watch the fan translation closely and when it's done send Shigeru Miyamoto himself to their houses and offer to buy the translation for a pittance. Their fanboyism will take over, they'll sell it for maybe a 4- or 5-figure sum, and they can release it over here for virtually nothing.

Err, by NDS I meant GBA.

more importantly when is earthbound going to show up on virtual console

Seriously! The kicker is that it will cost them like negative-zero dollars to release, and they'll see how many people are willing to pay for Earthbound. Urrrgh.

I really really reeeeeeally want to play this :( It's like the only video game I'm interested in buying now

hey at least you'll be able to get a glorified bathroom scale for your Wii. good going Nintendo, you know what we really want.

who is this we?
prediction : wii bathroom scale would outsell mother 3 by a huge margin

no shit, sherlock

who is this we?

whose is this wii?

wtf, you are loopy

everyone on this thread except you wants Mother 3, probably even more than Wii Fit, believe it or not.

i want fft

everyone on this thread is not a clear litmus test of nintendo's target audience. I want mother 3 too but we all know that what they're doing now will make them more money. Still, I think it'd make them a BIT of money to get translators to do Mother 3, surely? Is more money NOT more good or something?

I don't even care about mother 3, I barely touch the DS anymore as is, I just want Earthbound on the VC.

u would want the classic controller for that, because the best part about Earthbound is using the L button for everything

Still, I think it'd make them a BIT of money to get translators to do Mother 3, surely? Is more money NOT more good or something?

My entire point was that there's no reason not to do both, especially with all the money they're making with this other crap they could throw old school fans a bone besides endless Mario/Metroid/Zelda updates.

but...mario and sonic are at the olympics.

Could y'all please call the Nintendo hotline and ask if they'll release MOTHER 3 (sequel to Earthbound)?

Sadly, the GBA is basically dead to new carts right now. And I definitely can't imagine them going to the effort of translating the cart for DS, because that'd mean using another screen, blah blah blah...

they should really just rerelease every GB game ever for the WVC at two bucks a pop.

Its coming out at the end of this week!!!!

no wai; link?

link!
http://mother3.fobby.net/2008/10/14/testing-finishes-patch-this-week/#more-842

so awesome! will be loading this onto the flash cart

ZOMFG

*my boner a-splode*

HOLY SHIT

Earthbound is one of those games I really enjoyed as a kid but think I appreciate more as an adult. There is nothing like it; it's like a video game art piece, but on more than a purely aesthetic level like most games. RPG creators need to spend less time ripping off the Final Fantasy franchise and more time ripping off Earthbound

Earthbound is definitely amazing... as a kid it was this weird wacky throwback kinda game, but now you realize there's so much to appreciate it in. There was a good essay I read about it and its creator a while back, but I totally forget what it is now. How helpful.

its out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://mother3.fobby.net/

I know I can google my way to it, but could somebody hold my hand and explain what's necessary to get this from the website to my DS?

I am willing to spend money if pointed at the right places.

forks - you'll have to spend money to get it to a DS. I'm surprised nobody else on here posted a response earlier as I know there are people on here with more knowledge / experience than me on this kind of stuff. Obviously it would be much easier to play this on your computer via one of the popular gba emulators. Also illegal, but. I've never actually hacked a ds, but I was looking into it recently. To play GBA games on a DS, not only do you need to pick up a slot one micro sd adapter (R4 and the CycloDS seem to be the most popular choices), but also an ezflash 3 in 1 for that goes into slot 2 (the gba slot). There are lots of tutorials on how to make this work on youtube... just do a search for the products I mentioned. There are places to buy both online - just do a google search. You also will obviously need a ROM image of the Japanese game and the patch.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3528/hiphopee1.png

Nice. ANy of you guys know where to find one of those MOther 3 roms? I'm totally throwing this on my cracked PSP... I can't find my GBA + flashcard anywhere.

HOLY SHIT

― original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:55 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

^^^ this

patched rom
http://rapidshare.com/files/155028165/Mother_3.gba.html

thanks for the tips dudes

Okay, we need to bump that RPG names thread. Best/most sophomoric character names win.

Dude thx sleep!

I always name a character "Banyon II."

I've played through some of it today and it looks to be really well done, a real labour of love.

Nintendo should get some money to these guys and get the translation released for real. Are there any logistical, political, publishing, or commercial reasons why they wouldn't? The main entrenched cost in this kind of project is the translation isn't it? I imagine they would get labour for a snippet of the price from these dudes, were they to choose to 'license' it.

Abbott, why?

is this where I admit I've never really played an RPG? unless zeldas count

i'm really enjoying this. the story is quite depressing though, for an rpg.

yeah, I'm at the end of the first chapter, suffice to say the moment when you gain the drago fang is a bit of a downer; funny when the dad starts spazzing out tho

Holy shit, the mushroom trip level is as genuine a headfuck as a bad trip.

okay, this sold me on finding an ez card: http://cruiseelroy.net/2009/01/mother-3-battle-music/

Abbott are you playing this on pc or ds? I want to make sure whatever card I get can handle the mother 3 rom

ez flash 3-1 seems to be standard?

PC

I am really bad at the beat-based bonus hits.

FINALLY playing this; I have never seen a game try to convey genuine pathos! It almost works, but it's still kinda funny.
Obvs, writing is great, general interaction very engaging. Just getting started tho'.

hella fun; I'm at chapter 7 and cruising through. I named the father Obama and the mother Oprah, which has led to all manner of lolz.

Avoiding spoilers at all costs... Got through Chapter 1, this is great so far. BUT.

I cannot get the damn musical timing down at all. This is very possibly due to the emulator I'm using, and my options are quite limited on Mac - is this game still playable without being able to do the huge multihit combos? I can't ever do more than 2.

i never really got the hang of it & finished the game with no problems at all. just forget its there.

holy shit my flash cart just showed up and I can finally play this fucking thing! oh man too many great games to play right now.

I definitely feel like I have to grind a little more than I should because of it, but it's livable, especially compared to the frustration of Earthbound's encounters. Still enjoying every minute of this.

On a random whim I decided to buy the Mother 3 Guidebook after looking at all of the pretty typography on the site where they sell it. It's a fucking amazing package for something made by a bunch of eccentric fans!

I can't do the timing thing either. It's not a big deal.

I have been saving the last bit for later.

the ending is pretty special.
I got real good at the timing stuff.

Beat it. So good. I have a lot of thoughts and feelings about it, but instead I'll link to this excellent 8-part series of insightful articles at Cruise Elroy.

Spoilers of course - also for these funny comics.

Here's an epic Itoi interview about the making of the game, very interesting.

I need to finish it...I think I'm at least 85% done with it. I always do this with a game I really love...put off finishing it bcz it is so sad to say goodbye.

ending is must see

A couple of blog posts on how they used the town as a central location and how the characters were there mostly so you could observe them and get invested in them, as opposed to the typical RPG NPC item/quest dispensers.

http://www.brainygamer.com/the_brainy_gamer/2009/04/playground-hero.html
http://gangles.ca/2009/04/23/progression-in-mother-3/

finally playing this now and it's just omg. also everyone told me the music was good but god DAMN this music is REALLY good. I've been playing it w/ my lol hueg monitors plugged into my micro; it feels almost insurmountably nerdy but then the music is just ARGH SO GOOD.

Ha, as usual, I had about 2 hours left after months of letting it hibernate.

"We can meet again.
We can meet as many times as we want."

Perfect thing to hear.

You ARE "the end"!

thx for all those links, too, Nhex...that Itoi interview was fucking incredible.

Happy to help, this is the kind of game bound to inspire passionate internet writing. And Itoi is a wonderful nut.

Guys, this.

Just in general?

I love this game, I need to pick it up again.

I'm on holiday in New Zealand and put mother3 on my M3 so I could play it on (at least some part of) the ridiculous 33 hour journey. All the DS says is that the sd card isn't reconised. :( so sad, now I'll have to play it again when I get home.

Could somebody point me to a webpage that shows exactly what I need to play this game?

Translation and instructions here...
http://mother3.fobby.net/

You need a Nintendo DS
Some wily internet knowledge
GBA Flashcard: http://www.gameboy-advance.net/nintendo_ds/nds_flash_card.htm

well, you don't need a DS or flashcard if you're fine with playing it on your computer.

Tru

I played it through on the computer and loved it, but if you do have the option or wherewithal to get it done on an actual portable I would do it, because the whole musical timing element is completely screwed in emulation. You can get through the game regardless but I imagine it's less fun, the battles are more frustrating when you can't do the attack tapping.

I did not know that (only played the first little bit). Maybe it depends on the emulator you use too, maybe some are better than others?

That's definitely possible, but I'm sure the emulation will never 100% match the original hardware cycle-for-cycle. 99% of games you don't need to be accurate down to milliseconds but for this (and I imagine the original Rhythm Heaven), even when your emulator fluctuates from 99% to 100% clock speed, it's enough to completely blow this. Like I said you can still get through battles but it's definitely more grindy than the game intends. For Mother 3, you won't even notice this problem until 3 or 4 chapters in when the battles get significantly harder.

holy shit that gba flashcard side is amazing!!!

*site

I guess Itoi was inspired in making this by a trilogy of novels called The Notebook/The Proof/The Third Lie. I'm reading them right now, and so far: very good, but intensely disturbing. Way more so than anything in Mother 3.

A teenage girl has sex with a dog in the first 30 pages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/jobhosle/0370.jpg

I started playing this through again. I forgot this game's crazy coincidence!

There is a wife & husband couple called Abbey & Abbot in this game

which are both misspelled versions of things I have been called, my name and my "name"

IRL (Abb13) and on the onlnie (Abbott)

argh why do i need a 3in1 to play this on my ds??

Girl. Am Girl.

O_O unused battle background O_O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVnmeTRqhg

It looks kind of made-up though...

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11167317

jump to minute 21

awwwww

wow

ok, playing this again

I guess Itoi was inspired in making this by a trilogy of novels called The Notebook/The Proof/The Third Lie.

This trilogy is very, very good, by the way – I read half of it last summer, and I reread the whole thing last week. I wish I knew anyone else (online or IRL) who has read this so I could compare mind meltedness notes. It feels kind of lonely having something so good to myself!

i am curious (itoi)

The entire trilogy is printed in one book, too, plus it goes fast. I finished it in a day and a half.

http://www.zacgorman.com/IDNIN/Strip001_PKWAFFLES3.gif

We may be tiny, but we're still living beings. We eke out our lives as mole crickets.

that comic is great!

this game makes me bawl.

4 real dude it was a str8 connect w/my lachrymal glands

Lol this thread is crabbit's beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice

I love the way it builds up & how effectively it maneuvers in the emotional spaces between funny, weird, bleak, cute, cynical, repulsive, terrifying, heartwarming & heartbreaking.

probably a must play for any earthbound fan:

http://undertale.com/

I bought that last week but haven't played it yet. I have seen it mentioned along side earthbound so much

It's really good! I feel like there's a lot of depth, but that's just a guess, I was advised to go into this game with as little info as possible + that was good advice.

Definitely Earthbound-influenced enough so that it could be a game in the series in some ways, but still has a lot of interesting touches + fun gameplay elements in addition to the familiar ~feelllzzz&vibbezzz~

I just want all of the games as thoroughly and charmingly playful/quirky/bizarre as EarthBound and Katamari

What, sort of a pleasant level of amusing Japanese weirdness?

any and all levels of amusing Japanese weirdness tbh

Fair enough. That's what I liked about the PS2 & Dreamcast, as it seemed they were great for importing such rich veins of barely translated Japanese insanity into domestic consoles.

What are yr fav examples of these things?

LSD? Seaman? Incredible Crisis?

I've played Undertale twice now, and got two different endings. I don't know if I have it in me to play the "genocide" route.

One PS2 Japanese import I loved was Gregory Horror Show. The actual gameplay in itself was perhaps a little repetitive, but it didn't matter because it was fun to just hang around and spy on the crazy tenants going about their daily routines.

yooooo how do I play that (w/o dropping stupid coin on a mod-chipped PS2 and shipping an import game overseas)?

Can't help with that, sorry. I live in a country where it was released!

ugh, fuckin' Europe

how good's your pc? i have emu'd ps2 before to some success

it's a 3 year old Lenovo Thinkpad w/ onboard video. I just finished Super Mario 64 w/o any stuttering or errors but idk abt PS2

Weird Japanese awesomeness:

That futuristic fishing game including as a demo on one of the OPM discs.

Seaman

Odama

Jet Set Radio

Katamari

Earthbound was like all of this, of course, particularly the tea break and power of collective prayer

Oh I forgot abt Jet Set Radio!! Ugh Seaman seems impossible to emulate. I've got a Dreamcast lying around somewhere, too. I should just track it down.

did you play cave story?

Only the very beginning, and Ikachan on my 3ds

https://youtu.be/TYud4GeEF-c?t=8m55s

Undertale looks awesome but with the Fall Sale looming I feel compelled to wait & see if it gets discounted

oh my gosh I love Undertale SO MUCH

https://gifsound.com/?gif=https://media.giphy.com/media/QDYXASCjiW568/giphy.gif&v=204BDmIg7B4

y'all I am finally playing thru Mother 3 rn and it makes me so happy that I want to cry
also I feel like as a game this game is better than EarthBound

Please note when this gets an okay for US Release; looks funnables.
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, April 4, 2006 12:28 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this made me irl lol

https://lparchive.org/Mother-3/Update%2010/51-44.png

yeah it's better than earthbound in all aspects imo

i am mr. passion

omg i love mr passion

i'm rly annoyed at how hard Masked Man is and i'm EVEN MORE MAD that when i tried to google battle strategies i got massive spoilers instead

>:(

how are you playing this Stevie?

I have a translated ROM and I've been bouncing back and forth between an emulator on my Wii and an emulator on my Android tablet (transferring the save file back and forth) but I finally set up my Raspberry Pi so now I'm finishing it on that

oh wow. I'm really hoping they make some sort of ROM I can play on my SNES mini.

Doubtful, since it was a GBA game. Have you looked into the Raspberry Pi much? It’s $35 and you can build it out as an emulation box and fit literally every game for every console ever made up through the 16 bit era on a small SD card.

belatedly, this is one of the few RPGs where stat up/stat down spells are not completely useless in practice, and in fact are necessary for most of the bosses

Stat buffs and debuffs are pretty much essential in Dragon Quest games(which is appropriate given how much inspiration the Mother series took from there), less so in Final Fantasy.

The only way Mother 3 would ever run on a SNES Mini is if you hacked it and installed Retroarch. There are plenty of devices that support GBA emulation though, even a soft-modded Wii will do it sufficiently.

i feel like i'm a retropie factory this holiday season. built about 4 so far and about to start saying no

waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh i finished it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

So uhhhh how exactly do I go about playing this thing? Does everyone just use computer roms/emulators of the translated version?

I’d love to figure out how I could get it on my 3DS but I know like nothing about homebrew and hacking and shit. (I just finished Earthbound so naturally I need to get on this)

yeah it shouldn't be too hard to find a patched or translated rom, also there are a lot of ppl who sell the eng. translation as a bootleg gba cart on ebay. love mother 3, beautiful game, get in there!

3ds can't play gba games at least not from a cartridge so yeah you'd have to do some hacking stuff or get an actual gba or emulate it on pc

Huh, I googled about cartridges and apparently there are quite a few bootleg English cartridges of the game on Etsy! I think I might go with one of those and just try to find a GBA somewhere. Thank you!!

Apparently they still make r4 cards!

did you ever play this? it's like... better than earthbound

omg i wanna play this

me too. don't have any real way to do it though, unless ps4 is now an option? or SNES mini

literally it's so fucking good, it has all the charm of EarthBound but where EB was incredibly formulaic in terms of gameplay and narrative and linearity, Mother 3 shakes things up a lot more.

I think you p much have to play it with a GBA emulator on a computer, they still haven't released any official English translation

this is far from optimal but it works
https://www.playemulator.com/gba-online/mother-3/

heard it got cancelled

RIP mother 3, too problematic for our modern times ;_;

one thing you have to watch out for with emulation is that it's really hard to get the audio properly synced. the battle system is rhythm based so you're not going to have a very good time.

you can buy reproduction carts with the translated version on 3t5y and 3b4y then pop it into your beautiful DS Lite

oh yeah i forgot about that, my brain eventually got the hang of it but it was undoubtedly trickier than the real thing. certain emulators are much better than others (I think mGBA is supposed to be good?) and I think there are settings you can tweak to adjust the latency

I wound up ordering a GBA cartridge of the translated version from Etsy. It works extremely well!! They’re only $15 USD plus shipping too. If anyone wants to play it I’d say that’s probably the best way to go if emulators aren’t your thing. I haven’t had any issues with the rhythm battles either

I actually just finished chapter six and, like, holy shit, this thing is incredible. I don’t know how this ends but I’m guessing I’m gonna get emotionally wrecked.

I’m surprised at how different it is from EarthBound actually! The gameplay in EarthBound was dense and the world it created was very strange in the best way, but there wasn’t much of a story. This one, however, has a beautiful story and the world in it is lots of fun to explore. You’ll want to talk to everyone and inspect everything just to read the humourous script. And the music is top notch

Maybe my one complaint about it is that I wish the battles were harder? I didn’t die a lot in Earthbound but the battles in it were so tense and thrilling, whereas I seem to be just coasting through this thing. There is some interesting stuff going on it though — and katherine’s comment up thread about how stats up/down spells are actually important in this game is very true.

all of that is incredibly OTM. It retains the quirk and joy of EB but it has many heavy themes that make the overall vibe a little less breezy and lighthearted

I take back my previous comment about difficulty - these last two chapters are tough!!!

too problematic for our modern times ;_;

― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, May 29, 2020 12:07 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

hoo boy um yeah

but yes this is somehow better than earthbound

i enjoy that when you're playing as duster your attack combos express themselves as a wicked slap bass solo

If you have a mac and want to use an emulator OpenEmu is the best program.

I finished this last night at like 1 a.m. and uh yeah that ending is just devastating

I wound up ordering a GBA cartridge of the translated version from Etsy. It works extremely well!! They’re only $15 USD plus shipping too. If anyone wants to play it I’d say that’s probably the best way to go if emulators aren’t your thing.

I only have a gameboy color. By any chance could this work for me?

it's a gba game so no, you're 1 generation behind

well that was an incredible game

i think i prefer earthbound slightly bc nothing in mother 3 really rivals finding the inverted world in that one cafe or your soul traveling through time in a robot body but it sure was emotionally devastating on a level i've never felt from a video game before

Earthbound mechanically is just slow and brutal... I don't think I'd have ever gotten through it without emulator speed-up cheating.
Mother 3 is superior in virtually every aspect, though it owes so much to the previous two entries.
I grinded through it on emulator with the bad sound sync which made it a lot harder than it should've been, many years back. I don't know if emulators are better now with that. Or, can a Pi do it now with the sound timing intact?

I wonder, the English translation of Mother 1 worth going through? Love the music, but I doubt I'd make it through the game.

oh i mean in terms of gameplay no contest mother 3 is the better game, i'm talking more in terms of the ideas in each

though i've played earthbound twice with an emulator and never thought it slow or brutal

I wonder, the English translation of Mother 1 worth going through? Love the music, but I doubt I'd make it through the game.

I ordered a translated copy of Mother 1+2 a few days ago so I’m about to find out. will report back with my results. I know there are hacked versions with an “easy ring” item that double your xp and cash, but I’m curious about its difficulty..

I played Mother 3 on a Pi and fucked w the settings enough to get the audio to a point where I could pull off combos reliably (tho it still required a shift in my head of hitting the button just slightly before the beat I think)

The impression I get of Mother gameplay-wise is that it is VERY much a product of its time in a way that ages very poorly, like difficult and monotonous and a bit of a slog, to the point where the vibe I get is that a lot of players prefer the Easy Ring bcz it just makes it more tolerable

I will say that although M3 is the superior game in every way, EB is still my fav bcz it was the one i played first and also the overall tone is a little more lighthearted, also it has a gay child who's in love w his best friend which helloooo queer visibility way ahead of its time

speaking of queer visibility, my understanding from the way people talk about it whenever i google it is that the magyspies are the reason nintendo won't ever put out mother 3 internationally. i am personally fine with an immortal race of genderqueer drag queens who keep the world whole through their presence. it was fassad that rankled (but then *SPOILER* he is also a magypsy, which makes me feel better about it)

also i'm just now picking up on "fassad" = "facade." i bet the fans who translated the game think they're hilarious for this

Mother 3 is more sophisticated than Earthbound, but comparing the two feels like apples and oranges. I feel similarly about, idk, SMB & SMB3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8_huZmO0aQ

yoooo

you can't make me watch that

I ordered a translated copy of Mother 1+2 a few days ago so I’m about to find out. will report back with my results. I know there are hacked versions with an “easy ring” item that double your xp and cash, but I’m curious about its difficulty..

― josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:55 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

I finished the first Mother game last night (w/o the easy ring) and PHEW it is tough. You've got to do hours of grinding and it's hard to know where to go next without a walkthrough. Sometimes you'll defeat an enemy, take two steps you'll get attacked by another enemy right away. there's lots to enjoy though... the music's great, the charm's still there and the battles are often quite fun (especially the last boss fight which has wonderfully creepy 8-bit sound effects). It's obvs inferior to its two successors but it's neat for what it is

aw man now i'm done all the mother games and I feel sad :( i don't know what to play now.. is this what's finally gonna make me pick up Undertale

play undertaaaaaale

Undertale disappointed me, it has some truly funny moments but the overall vibe for me felt try-hard and too impressed w itself

I GUESS

We don't have an Undertale thread?

I've picked it back up after feeling similar to Stevie D(eux) upthread: Fun, but a little tedious and gratingly try-hard in places.
But I was filled with determination and managed to complete it. Once I was in the swing of it, it really came into its own.
It did start off like a lol pastiche of Earthbound-style RPGs, which felt a bit futile considering Earthbound is a pastiche in its own right.
But there's a LOT more to Undertale than mere wacky laffs. Toby Fox has thought it through and put in a lot more love and care into the lore, the plot and the playability than first meets the eye.
And yes, it can be frustratingly slow-going at first, but *SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS* once I played it through, I was hooked enough to go right through and play it again (TWICE!). In fact successive playthroughs are much more fun: I found faster workarounds, tons of Easter Eggs (anyone else discovered 'Hard Mode' yet?) and the plot makes a lot more sense and is actually very touching.

It’s a pretty quick game that you’re supposed to play through a few times, right?

yes, relatively quick. I did stumble a couple of times and gave up the first play through. I guess it's no big secret that it can be played in different ways and that the story alters not just according to the decisions you make, but how many times you've played it. For example *minor spoiler*, the third time through, one of the characters launches into his usual spiel before stopping and saying 'Wait, you're looking at me as though you've heard this all before...'. It's done in quite a knowing way, but it's genuinely amusing and unsettling at times. I even heard that it is smart enough to know when a player is trying to 'game' the system by doing crafty resets. There are loads of guides online on how to get past some of the more tricky puzzles and enemies if it does get too tedious

And as I say, the different styles of play-through depend on different playing styles. So, one style depends very much on logical decisions whereas another depends almost entirely on arcade-style reflexes.

i have only ever played/finished the game on pacfist mode, i cannot bring myself to hurt the monsters out of solidarity

I've finally gotten around to playing Undertale and I just finished my first playthrough (neutral mode)... everything about it is incredible except for the combat? Like yeah, it's cool that you can spare monsters and talk to them, but it would be so much more interesting if it was more complex in the way that most 90s JRPGs are!!! it also just felt too easy, but maybe it'll be harder if i try pacifist mode

the characters, music, setting, story, writing, retro graphics, commentary on violence in video games, etc, are all 10/10 amazing though. the dialogue with burgerpants might be the hardest I've ever laughed in a game

Completing it on neutral is just half the game. Pacifist and genocide (and there are a few secret modes too) is where it gets proper full on. I agree, it's a shame it's really quite a linear playthrough but I guess it's more of a parody of JRPGs than an actual one. I love the music score

there was a time where my son would exclusively request undertale OST in the car

and

i have only ever played/finished the game on pacfist mode, i cannot bring myself to hurt the monsters out of solidarity

― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Wednesday, August 5, 2020 11:49 AM (seven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

still true

flowey is taunting me into trying the game on pacifist mode so i guess i'm gonna do that next

and lol i can't imagine having the Undertale soundtrack playing all the time in the car, i'd feel like i'm trapped in a cartoon

i listen to stuff like that when i'm working. big fan of "Shop"

who could hate on a bit of this https://open.spotify.com/track/2w1FN8hCcAPs10rQw8g20L?si=VYJYQwNHTnydHarM0okrEA

I really should replay Undertale, I think I got most of the way through but never finished it and it was great but not excellent.

Are the routes discussed or explained anywhere within the game? Like is there any suggestion that a player should do things a certain way?