Yep, this is happening. In February of 2010, I am fairly confident in starting this thread; however, there are some upcoming releases that may grab some votes. Here are those upcoming releases:
MLB10 The Show and MLB2K10, both due for March.Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, European and Japanese PS2 SKUs.Sakura Wars 5, NA release.Several nonsense-named Japanese releases.
The GameFAQs release dates list is here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/releases.html
If any of these titles seem significant enough to delay the poll, let me know here and we can move it to later in the year. However, if you have absolutely no intent to play these, there's not much point in lying to ourselves about it, and we should begin, so let me know.
Feel free to nominate up to ten games here. Hopefully, in the nomination process, we can cancel out having several version of Pro Evo split the vote, but I guess we'll see what happens. The nomination phase will last until March 13 to ensure everyone gets a chance to nominate their favourite games. The final nomination list will, soon after, go up in the voting thread, and here:
http://ps2ilx.wordpress.com
Then, everyone will send a ballot to me (redacted) with their top 15 games in order. Points will be assigned in descending order (15 for 1st, 14 for 2nd, etc) down to one. Fifteen games are not necessary, and a top 5 will give 15-14-13-12-11. In the event that you'd like to have a "tie" for some games, the amount of points they would get will be averaged-- eg. if you give two games the top slot, they'll each receive 14.5 points, or three will get 14, or all fifteen at the same level = 8 apiece. Please specify if this is what you'd prefer[/i] or I might mistake your list for ranked.
This is a different system from Forks's system for the annual Coint and Plick, and I am open to changing this to something more like that, so let me know if you prefer that system-- since it's just the nomination phase, there's plenty of time for fine-tuning.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll just do the obvious ones:
Katamari DamacyWe Love KatamariResident Evil 4Half LifeIcoShadow of the ColossusGod of WarGod of War IIGTA Vice CityGTA San Andreas
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 February 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
so, are we nomming things now then?
why not:
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
― goole, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
God Hand (anyone voting for anything else is a butt)Yakuza 2Killer7Fire Pro WrestlingThe WarriorsOdin SphereBeyond Good & Evil
also I am planning on adding the other two polls to the C&P blog (http://cointandplick.wordpress.com) over the next few weeks - want to post the results/ballot on there instead? I could either make you a contributor on the page or you could just send me the results and have me post them.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 22 February 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
We can definitely do that jamescobo! Sounds like a good plan.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
What is the etiquette for crossposting to ILE? I am sure some of them would take part but might not see this.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ridiculous poll, impossible, I can't do it etc
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
revive an ile ps2 thread and mention it
― nitzer Ed (s1ocki), Monday, 22 February 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
or the top videogames of all time poll someone did a few years ago
this is great; also impossible
― antexit, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
DONE here's hoping anyone but us nerds in the nerd corner care
wait-- is this the nerd corner? or is one of the other corners nerdier ie. WWE or cricket? xp
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Is there a way to weight it towards games you are unlikely to have played before so that it is more like a best most-overlooked game of all time? (the immediate problem is how do you vote for a game you've never played before)
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not quite sure what you mean-- like, maybe a bonus section for "game I wish I played but never did"? Or more like, games that are highest rated among those who managed to play them? The former would be easy, but the latter would involve me asking everyone to say which of the hundreds of games they actually have and ahven't played and that mgiht be a bit much to ask everyone.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
this will be cool, some more noms i can rememberBullyOkamiRatchet & ClankPro Evolution Soccer 2005
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
RE2Ape Escape 2/3Guitar Hero 2Burnout RevengeDef Jam VendettaHulk: Ultimate DestructionManhuntNBA StreetNHL Hitz ProRatchet and Clank: Going CommandoSpider-Man 2
― antexit, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
hmm well, considering that the canon (ie n/a's "obvious ones") will get a lot of votes and will probably sweep the upper part of the results, maybe we could allow one game per entrant to be asterisked as "special to me". those could ALSO be tabulated seperately or something, to give a non-canon canon.
xps
― goole, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
That sounds like a good addition, goole. I will include that in the second thread!
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Feel pretty conflicted about certain multiplatform and port entries. For instance I'd definitely consider Killer7 as one of the best of the decade but the Gamecube version is really the original/best - possibly same for Viewtiful Joe, and PS2 got the better RE4 port but the game was really a GC game too - not to mention something like Rez. I played the GTA games on PC, but they are obviously PS2 games at heart and I have no problem voting for San Andreas in the poll. Plus, uh, I just got a PS2 two months ago. On second thought, maybe I should skip this.
― Nhex, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I wouldn't sweat it too much-- some people will skip Rez b/c it's better on DC or 360, and some will list it because that's how they played it, eg. so you cant' really do it "wrong." Just put yr fave PS2 games in order in a list, you know? Overthinking = for the P&J. This is Coint and Plick!
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
So weird, but I can't remember a single game I played on the PS2. I wonder if I somehow just missed that entire moment in gaming.
― Mordy, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, Forks, a year or two ago you managed to get some pretty awesome non-ilx folx voting (mitch k, for instance)-- did you mail them and ask them to contribute? Or did they find it somewhere else or are they secret lurkers?
xp Mordy I felt the same way and thne I started looking at big lists of every game ever, and it started jogging my memory!
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess I can nominate SSX, SSX Tricky and Gran Turismo 4, at the moment those are the only ones I can remember playing.
― Mordy, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
well this is a constant thing in polls, do you vote for "the best" or "your favorite (i.e. the best to you)"? I guess everyone has their own opinion about which approach to use. I'm definitely more of a "vote my personal favorites" man, I just listed canon stuff because I probably played nowhere near as many PS2 games as other people on here and I have a bad memory so I thought I'd help others out by getting the obvious stuff up. But I'm not going to vote for the GTA games, for example, because I never really enjoyed them as much as everyone else seems to, and I'll definitely vote for Bully (which I forgot about).
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I am always jealous of all the ballots filled with cool Japanese stuff I haven't heard of.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i just assume all those are tentacle child rape games or cargo barge driving sims.
― goole, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
unfortunately if my list is not at least 40% Rockstar games i will be lying about my fave games from that generation
― antexit, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know why anyone would vote for stuff that's not their own favourite!
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
well then I guess I don't understand the need for the "special to me" designation?
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
games that you really liked but you know not many people played it. even if you don't have it highly ranked on your own ballot cos, like, san andreas was better anyway.
i dunno, maybe it's a dumb idea.
― goole, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
might be cool to have a "featured faves" section
― nitzer Ed (s1ocki), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Madden 08 - partly just as a conventionally great last-gen Madden but also for the FANTASY MODE which is the greatest bit in the history of the series - you assemble a team of NFL all-stars and take on THE GLACIERS (made of ice, disappear at random), THE DEVILS (actual devils with horns and shit), etc.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Also:
Prince of Persia - Sands of Time!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Persona 3 & 4Dragon Quest 8psychonauts (not really sure what the best platform for this ws but it's still psychonauts)
― toastmodernist, Monday, 22 February 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I never had a PS2 or lived with anyone who had one, so I've only played on one maybe five times in my life. Two of those were for State of Emergency, which seemed pretty fun for the two hours I put in. So I'll nom that.
(p.s. I might buy a PS2 in the next year or two so I'm pretty excited to see results, even if my participation is basically none)
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Monday, 22 February 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
PS2 def worth picking up now, esp. given pawn shops/cash convertors in the UK are littered w/lots of titles for no more than £3, and its library is on a par w/SNES
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
lots of my favourites already nommed, so:
zone of the enders 2: 2nd runnerdark cloudrogue galaxybreath of fire: dragon quartermetal gear solid 2metal gear solid 3: subsistencepro evolution soccer 5viewtiful joesos: the final escapevalkyrie profile 2: silmeria
omitted sly raccoon/way of the samurai series ;_;
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^sick list worthy of the top 7
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone ever play world of football? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hoyfGLgfk&feature=related
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Wip3outSingstar (let's not get arsey about versions eh)
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm enthusiastic to see the final results for this, too... there's really just so much to choose from, getting into the system at this point. As always I'm wondering which games hold up today.
Is Rogue Galaxy that good? There are like a billion copies at my local BB new for $10. Then again I should probably start off with FFX or DQ8 or a million other JRPGs...
― Nhex, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Probably should be arsey about versions here: Tekken tagTekken 4Tekken 5
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7rcN-i7S8Y
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
lol ignore that
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, how I loved Consolevania. Great review. But wait, so do you not agree with that one, because it pretty much convinced me not to bother with it?
(after seeing the last post) haha ok
― Nhex, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
DQ8 is a priority for sure
― Nhex, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Dragon Quarter is one of my favourite games ever. Never managed to complete it though because i always manage to completely fuck up my d-meter thing.
― toastmodernist, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
it's the warriors, there's no point going any further guys
― ogmor, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
^the only game on cobo's list I haven't played ;_;
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
A couple that would probably only ever get votes from me, but: - Ring of Red- Stuntman
also:- Gran Turismo 3- Jak and Daxter (don't think it's been mentioned already)
Looking forward to various Pro Evolution Soccer games getting individual votes because everyone disagrees on which is the best...
― CraigG, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
ring of red had a good look and was too slow
― ogmor, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
xp i'm sure we can agree, mine and coz' nom should be the same
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 February 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Some things I am shocked are not yet up here:
Silent Hill 2Suikoden IIISuikoden VFinal Fantasy XFinal Fantasy XIIDef Jam Fight For NYFahrenheit / Indigo ProphecyTony Hawk UndergroundGradius VR-Type FinalOutrun 2006 Coast2CoastDoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Monday, 22 February 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Def Jam Fight For NY^^^all time
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Monday, 22 February 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
RezLego Star Wars II: The Original TrilogyMega Man Anniversary CollectionResident Evil Code: Veronica XSoulCalibur II
although I played the last 3 on gamecube/wii.
― abanana, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link
There are lots of multi-system stuff that's going to dominate this list; personally, I'd love to see a PS2 exclusive poll. The PS2/XBox/Gamecube/Dreamcast generation seems defined by cross-platform games, and what made each distinct is going to get lost or repeated over and over (Psychonauts and Beyond Good and Evil were two of my favorite games ever, but it seems silly to vote them near the top of multiple systems).
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link
capcom vs snk 2 (2001) dark cloud 2 (2002)disgaea: hour of darkness (2003)gradius v (2004)grimgrimoire (2007)growlanser v: generations (2006) ICO (2001)klonoa 2: lunatea's veil (2001)lord of the rings: the return of the king (2003)marvel vs capcom 2 (2002) metal gear solid 2: substance (2003)metal gear solid 3: subsistence (2006)prince of persia: sands of time (2003)silent hill 2 (2002) shadow hearts (2001) sly 2: band of thieves (2004) smt III: nocture (2004) smt: digital devil saga (2004/2005) star ocean: til the end of time valkyria profile 2 (2006) virtua fighter 4: evolution (2003)
― F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
CvSNK2 and MvC2 were really DC titles. Hmm... how about Contra: Shattered Soldier?
Was THUG the last good Tony Hawk? I think I tapped out around TH4.
xp I think the PS2-exclusive poll would be better too, though it does seem wrong that you'd have to exclude stuff like GTA and a ton of stuff listed here already. Imagine a generic poll for the PS2/GC/DC/Xbox generation that includes ONLY multiplatform titles!
Also OMG Tekken Tag was godawful. I remember it being terrible when the PS2 first came out. The one I just got actually came with it, so I tried it, wondering if it was really as bad as I thought? And it was. Oh, how it was.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
RE2
― antexit, Monday, February 22, 2010 1:44 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
Is this like resident Evil 2? did that get a ps2 release?
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link
CvSNK2 and MvC2 were really DC titles
sure but i mean more ppl probably played them on the ps2 + this is a ps2 poll? its hard 2 say really - like i def wouldnt vote for re4 or okami on ps2 bcuz their definitive versions were on other consoles but @ the same time it makes sense to nominate them & thats probably how a lot of ppl played them.
i think trying to limit a "best ps2 games" poll to console-exclusives wld be p pointless/inauthentic/skewed. i think a generation poll (so ps2/dc/gc/xbox maybe gba?) where ppl specified platform wld work if ppl are interested in making sure the 'best' version of a game is listed
― F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
wondering whether to just nom every tony hawk game or not. surely there was something else i played, i'm just not sure what...
yeah i thought re2 was a ps1 game? xpost.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link
definitive okami is on PS2 iirc
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:56 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread makes me sad that my ps2 is is painfully RIP
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the PS2 port of killer7 makes the baby cozen cry but it's still a super rad game
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 08:11 (fourteen years ago) link
As far as choosing a Tony Hawk goes, number 3 has to be the one really. It's the only one I really fell in love with. Also, it's number 10 on the gamerankings best ever list, and metacritic's number one (which is surprising, to be fair).
I'm also finding it hard to remember much I actually played on that machine though. And of the ones I can remember, none feel like true AAAs really, in retrospect (except THPS3). Burnout 3, SSX, Singstar, The Eyetoy games. They were all fun enough, but I'm not sure my life would've been significantly worse if I'd missed any of them.
― JimD, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Singstar changed my life!
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Wip3out ruined your life.
― JimD, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, hold on, I believed your original nom, but Wip3out isn't a PS2 game. You meant Wipeout fusion.
― JimD, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll vote for Pro Evo 2005 for the sake of having one unified entry under that banner
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Wip3out isn't a PS2 game
aw crap, it was in high res, i thought that meant ps2. oh well scrap it, do not replace with poosion.
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link
games i loved that everyone else prolly hates but i haven't seen them nommed yet but i haven't looked too close but:
burnout: revengeworms 3dguitar hero 2lego star wars 2: orig trilogybullymicro machines v4
― on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Frasier, seasons 1-11
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i play that on my ps2 more often than anything !
Special game for me would be Transformers i think
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
THPS3 is the only sensible nom, I think
darragh, is pro evo 05 the same as pro ev 5? I already nommed the latter
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
THUG was sort of supposed to be like a revolution for the series, it was the first non-"pro skater" and instead there was like an actual story. It was a pretty stupid story to be fair, but there was something to it and I think it's different enough from THPS3 to warrant its own nom.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Some people are talking abt a 6-gen battle royale for best game (DC and PS2 and GC and XBOX) so that games like Rez and Killer7 can get their dues. I am still okay with this even though this thread is started-- Would you all prefer this stay PS2-only? The problem, I think, with opening it up is that we already have so few voters vs. the number of games that the more we open it up the more it's going to be 42-WAY TIE FOR 99TH!
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
if we're going to poll the last generation, I think we could probably just do polls for the PS2, Dreamcast, GBA, and then a catch-all one "Everything Else", and then do a final poll for the whole generation based on the top 20 results from each of those.
not that that wouldn't be a shitton of work but hey.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Did anybody ever play that shitty-lookin' Warriors game they put out on XBLA? I'm sorely tempted even today, remembering how much I loved that game. Oh! So violent! So visceral! So satisfying!
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I don't know about anybody else but I like the fact that there's going to be some consensus this time-- especially since realistically there's not going to be a lot of hidden gem seeky-outage stemming from this poll. I think as well that you should be able to vote for a cross-platform game that you consider in your nerdy mind has its definitive iteration on another same-gen console. You should NOT be allowed to vote for a game ported down from the next gen just bc you like it a lot, though.
ps i loved the fuck out of some of the tony hawk games on this console but I can't remember which now, and they've been effaced by subsequent suckage... maybe it was THPS4?
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i used to watch my mate play the one with the bull ring, for hours it might've been on the dreamcast though.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought those were called cock rings
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost that was THPS2, still my favorite entry in the series. I remember 3 being pretty good but I never even got around to finishing it, whereas I 100% beat 2 on both PC and DC.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
3 was the first THPS I played, and I seem to be alone in thinking that 4 was an improvement on 3.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Which is the one with Bam? And all the stuff you have to do that has nothing to do with skateboarding? And the sticker slap which effectively means you can ground-combo eternally with almost no skill?
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I think that was the one after 4.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Everybody's Golf 4 aka Hot Shots Golf Fore!
― ears are wounds, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
^I'm sure no one will vote for this but so, so addictive.
― ears are wounds, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
This is gonna be good and i may be able to help on the final poll.
NBA Street 2Kingdom Hearts and KH 2OnimushaTwisted Metal Black
... drawing a blank; will add more as i think of them.God, this poll made me break out my old games folder. So many dreamcast discs. Why did i ever get rid of that console.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I contacted them. Just pick out yer fave eukyarotes and email em!
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Do we have to have all the different versions of games like MGS3 or can we all agree that Subsistence is the best one?
― antexit, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I dare not open up my old games cabinet, I'd just end up dusting of the DC and playing Toy Commander all night.
oh go on then
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm going to combine votes for MGS3 and Subsistence, I only played the former but assume I would have loved the latter jsut as much. They're not really different games, one's just an improvement of the other really
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link
can i request a "list thus far" in the thread, plz?
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
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That was THUG2. THUG1 was slightly better ubt very full of non-skating things to do (in the bad way).
xpost list coming in under 2 mins. Just making sure I have no doubles.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Ape Escape 2Ape Escape 3Beyond Good & EvilBreath Of Fire: Dragon QuarterBullyBurnout RevengeCapcom vs SNK 2Contra: Shattered Soldierdark cloud 2Def Jam Fight For NYDef Jam VendettaDisgaea: Hour of DarknessDoDonPachi Dai Ou JouDragon Quest VIIIEverybody's Golf 4 / Hot Shots Golf ForeFahrenheit / Indigo ProphecyFinal Fantasy XFinal Fantasy XIIFire Pro Wrestling ReturnsGod HandGod of WarGod of War IIGradius VGran Turismo 3Gran Turismo 4Grand Theft Auto: San AndreasGrand Theft Auto: Vice CityGrimGrimoireGrowlanser V: Generations Guitar Hero 2Half-LifeHulk: Ultimate DestructionIcoJak and DaxterKatamari DamacyKiller7Kingdom HeartsKingdom Hearts 2Klonoa 2: Lunatea's VeilLego Star Wars II: The Original TrilogyLord Of The Rings: Return Of The KingMadden 08ManhuntMarvel vs. Capcom 2Mega Man Anniversary CollectionMercenaries: Playground of DestructionMetal Gear Solid 2/ MGS2 SubstanceMetal Gear Solid 3/ MGS3 SusbistenceMicro Machines V4NBA StreetNBA Street 2NHL Hitz ProOdin SphereOkamiOnimushaOutrun 2006 Coast2CoastPersona 3Persona 4Prince of Persia - Sands of TimePro Evolution Soccer 2005PsychonautsRatchet & ClankRatchet & Clank: Going CommandoRE2 (?)Resident Evil 4Resident Evil Code: Veronica XRing of RedRogue GalaxyR-Type FinalShadow HeartsShadow of the ColossusSilent Hill 2SingstarSly 2: Band Of ThievesShin Megami Tensei III: NocturneShin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil SagaShin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2SOS: The Final EscapeSoulCalibur IISpider-Man 2SSX SSX TrickyStar Ocean: Til The End Of TimeStreet Fighter Anniversary Collection (w/ III: 3rd Strike)StuntmanSuikoden IIISuikoden VTekken 4Tekken 5Tekken Tag TournamentThe WarriorsTony Hawk Pro Skater 3Tony Hawk UndergroundTransformersTwisted Metal BlackValkyrie Profile 2: SilmeriaViewtiful JoeVirtua Fighter 4: EvolutionWe Love KatamariWip3outWorms 3DYakuza 2Zone Of The Enders 2: 2nd Runner
That's 103 entries.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link
notes: RE2 and Wip3out are PS1 titles, if the original nominators meant something else let me know or I will cut them (RE4 was PS2, and some other RE titles; Wipeout Fusion and Pulse were PS2, but not W3).
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
0 story (2000) ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007) atelier iris: eternal mama (2004)bombastic (2003)ddrmax dance dance revolution (2002) devil may cry 3: dante's awakening (2005) la pucelle tactics (2002) maximo: ghosts to glory (2001)ring of red (2000) xenosaga (2002)
probably need more sports games? only sports game i really play is madden tho + i guess its hard 2 nominate 1 specific year/game? mb it makes sense just to nom series?
also also imo digital devil saga 1/2 is basic the same game for voting purposes
― F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Xenogears I/II/IIITaiko Drum MasterStretch PanicPaRappa 2Max PayneMister MosquitoThe Mark of KriGrandia IIGet on Da Mic (I have some good stories on this one)Fatal FrameFF X-2Dance Dance Revolution: DDRMAX
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
good catch on maximo
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
and if you're pulling wipeout, let's put in wipeout fusion I guess? I'm not necessarily repping everything I'm nomming as top fifty even, but we might as well have an extensive working list.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link
hey I was serious about State of Emergency!
The other PS2 game I watched a fair bit of, though never played much of, was Smuggler's Run. I'll nom that too?
haha evidently these were both Rockstar games...had no idea
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link
lamp read the OP u big loser
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link
also you forgot mana khemia
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link
um wtf u h8ful jerk u no i cant read
― F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:31 (fourteen years ago) link
AmplitudeCrazy TaxiDevil May CryESPN NFL 2K5FrequencyMedal of Honor: FrontlineRezStreet Fighter EX3Tom Clancy's Splinter CellMLB The Show 2006Madden 2002
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 08:10 (fourteen years ago) link
omg thank you for nba street 2. so so so so so addictive.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link
and if you're pulling wipeout, let's put in wipeout fusion I guess?
don't bother, even i'm not gonna vote for that sack o' crap.
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:02 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Sorry I missed that one-- I may have missed some others that were not in handy list format due to my hasty excel copying, let me know if you see anything missing everyone!
ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007)
"metalfalica" sounds like it is about a great steel dick
I will combine these two, as iirc they are pretty much continuations-- I'll also do tihs for Xenosaga, any other recommendations peopel for games that shjould be lumped together? Obv not GTA or MGS, but maybe Madden 2002 and 2008?
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
possible lumps together:- god of war 1 & 2 (leaning no on this one)- gran turismo 3 & 4 (also leaning no)
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, it totally posted for me before i was ready.- kingdom hearts 1 & 2 (never played them, no idea)- lego star wars 1 & 2, if anyone even noms 1- nba street 1 & 2- ssx & ssx tricky (again, never played, so i dunno if they're reskins or actually quite different games)
xenosagas, digital devil sagas, and MGSes with their remakes (substance/subsistence) are already lumped together.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i say: do not lump the god of war games together.
― abanana, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
miss the point that clubs are best-placed to decide what debt they take on
don't matter, i'll just vote for whichever makes it on to the poll, it'd be easier.
i aim to have a ps2 or 3 ONLINE (for the first time) in the next 6 months btw, and will be looking for beatches to school. fair warning.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
GOW II is much better than I, they're very diff games.same for street, ssx, kh. Dunno about the rest.forgot about amplitude; good catch.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
My understanding was that SSX Tricky was way better than the first SSX, just like NBA Street 1 vs. 2. SSX3/SSX On Tour were also considered different degrees of quality, though I didn't play them. Personally I would go with Tricky.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Mr. Cobo -- can I send you the latest list of nominated games for PS2 and have you out them up on the blog? I want to start sending the blog link to people instead of this thread, as I'm expecting to do some pretty serious flogging of the poll tonight. magacid at gmail if you want to hit me there, and I can forward you the list so far!
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
holla
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
playing san andreas right now, on completion you get infinite ammo - and with the mini gun its something of an absolute riot.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, put a call for nominations for this poll up on the blog including the most current version of the ballot. if you want to recruit people but don't want to send them to this thread, here's the link to send them instead:
http://cointandplick.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/coint-plick-ps2-call-for-nominations/
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Alien HominidDarkwatchEvil Dead: RegenerationMDK2: ArmageddonRed FactionThe Suffering
ugh a bunch more i am not remembering
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Final Ballots will have the following:
- Top 1 to 15 games for the PS2, with optional commentary on why they are the best (a sentence to a paragraph ideal, or a link to something you've previously written about the game in question)
- Biggest disappointment
- Worst game
- Best cover art.
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Saturday, 27 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
any off thread interest?
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 27 February 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Cargo Barge Driver Reloaded - The Canal Diaries
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 February 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, I have heard from a few of the people I've emailed, and I wrote myself an email of others I am going to bug. Speaking of which, a couple of nominations I received by email that weren't ITT:
- Burnout 3: Takedown - Yakuza 1
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Monday, 1 March 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
tryna get this down 2 15 is going to be ~impossible~
― (Damn) (Lamp), Monday, 1 March 2010 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Capcom vs SNK 2God of WarGod of War II (never played but assume it’s just as good as I)Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (I never got San Andreas)Katamari DamacyJak 3 (add this btw, might as well add 2 also)(I never played the prequels)Ratchet & ClankSly 3: Honor Among Thieves (add this btw) (I never played the prequels)Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (w/ III: 3rd Strike)Street Fighter Alpha Anthology (add this btw)Katamari Damacy (never played the sequel)Twisted Metal BlackI own Shadow of the Colossus and only barely played (might be on my final list)I own Suikoden III but never got far into it (might be on my final list)I never played Bully and maybe I should borrow it (might be on my final list)SSX3 (add this btw) (I never played but I did like SSX and if this was supposed to be an improvement on SSX and Tricky)
these are my top games^
some stuff I really should check out like Odin Sphere and Okami (even though I would play Okami for wii)
― CaptainLorax, Monday, 1 March 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
that's not meant to be my final list.. just sharing my thoughts
― CaptainLorax, Monday, 1 March 2010 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not gonna list my ballot as it feels like jumping the gun, but I will say that I am leading the Shadow of the Colossus bloc to what I hope will be well deserved victory
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 March 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
It's kind of annoying (for me) that I haven't played games like Jak 1 &2, Sly 1 & 2, Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal, and all the SSX sequels because they may have definitely been better than the sequels I played. I almost feel like you should lump together SSX, Jak, Sly, and Ratchet and Clank for those reasons. But then who's stopping you from not lumping sequels together for all the respective games
― CaptainLorax, Monday, 1 March 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link
haha considering how um 'independent' ilg poll results often are im not even gonna try to predict any results. my ballot it still in the early stages - i figured id just write down all the games that i think are worth voting for and stoppped after like 40. right now my cut-off is like:
16 metal gear solid 2: substance17 capcom vs snk 2 18 we ♥ katamari 19 growlanser: generations20 sly 2: band of thieves
srsly getting this down to 15 feels sooooooooooo difficult
― (Damn) (Lamp), Monday, 1 March 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
hey I was serious about State of Emergency!― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:02 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:02 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
fuck you
i unironically wish physical harm upon you
― yakko warner (cankles), Monday, 1 March 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
if san andreas doesn't win, can we just close down ILG
― yakko warner (cankles), Monday, 1 March 2010 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
better gta than shadow of the colossus 4 sure altho im hard 4 vice city
― (Damn) (Lamp), Monday, 1 March 2010 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
san andreas is the platonic ideal of gaming
― yakko warner (cankles), Monday, 1 March 2010 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
can't vote San Andreas (never played) but I'm sure Vice City will be in my top 15kinda sucks once again that I know sequels/prequels are good but I don't know if I'll list anyI think that games with sequels/prequels will score lower because split votes amongst the series for reasons like I said
― CaptainLorax, Monday, 1 March 2010 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
vice city felt more visceral to explore & the missions were better designed i think? tbf the both kinda blur 2gether in my mind a little w/ the exception of the music
― (Damn) (Lamp), Monday, 1 March 2010 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm hoping to at least check out Persona 4, Bully, Dragon Quarter, ZoE2, and Transformers for this ballot.
also idea: what if we signed up to write something about one game each to try to rally support for it before the vote? e.g. I would write a quick case for God Hand (duh), Lamp could do one for P3FES, the ILX Britishes could argue over who gets to do the soccer game, etc.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 1 March 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
good idea! a "make your case for:" thread.If will's down for it, I'll volunteer for several.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 March 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I think SA and VC are going to split the vote giving the top spot easily to SOTC. (How you could guys not even play San Andreas after Vice City? SA had so much more going for it in general, minus 80s nostalgia)
― Nhex, Monday, 1 March 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't play any of the GTAs on any system in between III and IV tbh, but then again in between the death of the Dreamcast and the ascent of the DS I didn't really care too much about games.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 1 March 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
despite enjoying my fuck, canks, what's wrong with State of Emergency? I played it for about an hour once, thought it was pretty fun, never wanted to play it again but w/e. I'm not VOTING for it, for crying out loud, just naming a game that I thought was decent on a system I o/w completely missed (though gonna remedy that I hope; looking for the poll for some guidance eventually, at least re. rpgs).
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Monday, 1 March 2010 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
How you could guys not even play San Andreas after Vice City? SA had so much more going for it in general, minus 80s nostalgia
i played the f outta both of them but @ some point gta: sa became a chore, a parody of irl saturdays spent doing shitty little errands: buying stuff @ the hardware store, getting groceries, picking up your dry cleaning. vice city u started to feel like u had the run of the place p quickly & the missions didnt get as tedious & repetitive. gta: sa is a rad game & a respectable top pick but <3 vice city.
im def willing to stan 4 x jrpg
― wfw panda (Lamp), Monday, 1 March 2010 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link
we should be limited to one game each though; that way we're forced to focus on one maximally interesting game. also ppl may be more inclined to jump in and participate if their game of choice hasn't already been written up.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 1 March 2010 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll do mr mosquito
― Hideous Lamp (cozen), Monday, 1 March 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link
alright, i'm committing for Colossus then.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 March 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link
RE: Make Your Case Thread
MAKE IT HAPPEN MR. TOFU
director's commentary: I almost wrote "fappen" accidentally, which I almost changed to "HENFAPPEN" but i figured that'd be dumb
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Monday, 1 March 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
as previously mentioned, I got God Hand
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 1 March 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll take Bully or the Warriors
― antexit, Monday, 1 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
actually the Warriors. Someone else can have Bully
do we really want to entrust sotc to forks?
― Hideous Lamp (cozen), Monday, 1 March 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
you go to hell pal.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
MAKE YOUR CASE: A Thread for Defending an Individual PS2 Game
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 March 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
: P j/k j/k
― Hideous Lamp (cozen), Monday, 1 March 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I want to change my nomination from Madden 2002 to Madden 2004.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Monday, 1 March 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
polyphonic, why not '08 then? The gameplay's virtually identical*, and you get the whole extra amazing mode.
*: Unless you are a vision cone stan
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 1 March 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't play 08 on the PS2
Vision cone is an abomination.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Monday, 1 March 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
can we poll ps2 save game icons next pls
― Hideous Lamp (cozen), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
why is there not a website with a searchable database of those
― Hideous Lamp (cozen), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
man, is there a website with gifs of those?would be so awesome XP great minds think alike
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I never finished P3FES bcz i discovered it as P4 was just about to come out and switched all my attention over to that. Fully intend to go back to it when i finish but i think i prefer P4's tvworld dungeons inspired by characters psych. issues to the single mega random dungeon. Prefer the world of P3 though. The sequence early on when yr out and everyone turns into a coffin ws fucking great. P3&4 must have some of the most enjoyable fmv sequences of any games.
― toastmodernist, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link
err, shoulda gone on the name yr case thread really.
MAKE yr case. ffs codeine.
I must not have explained this thing pretty well because like 4 people I e-mailed sent me "sorry I don't have time before March 14th" messages, and another two sent me their ballots-- my reply that "it's only nominations right now" got a reply from one of "oh, so I can add to that list? I switch a for b and c for d, then"
― Quantic Dream, So Hard To Beat (Will M.), Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link