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something about people inclined towards photography but maybe a little defensive about it's place in the art world. feeling the need to add presentation elements, or do some staging etc. to show intent and authorship or something.

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chinavision!, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

oh god *starts browsing used olympus pen listings on ebay*

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

I've even found myself going for more verticals lately, I think from loving the Stephen Gill stuff I've seen so much!

chinavision!, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

hey a half frame would be great for verticals but also just to squeeze in twice as many snapshots on a roll. and why not mess around with some smaller lower resolution formats?

chinavision!, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

ok, I'm realizing the other thing that bugs me about a bunch of diptychs/triptychs I see is that the photos sometimes seem to communicate *nothing* in combination or to each other etc. like the desire for a diptych was stronger than the need.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

what am I even talking about, my zeiss ikon shoots verticals. although I thin kit may have a light leak. whatever!

乒乓, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I can kinda see that. probably something to write in there too about how our tools dictate our way of seeing. simply easier to take a horizontal.

this is true but i remember feeling all wowed when a friend & i were talking about cameras, how they'd arrived at their shape & form (like that steven wright thing, if photos are square why are lenses round), & we realised that the horizontal/landscape format resembles the actual height x width ratio of our eyes. like something about them makes sense! my favourite thing since then is shooting horizontally & presenting the photos vertically, it's such a satisfying editorial move.

china otm about some of those presentation tropes. i snobbishly always felt a little that way about getting white borders on prints at the lab.

schlump, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://thenoumenonrevelation.blogspot.com/

feel like u would vibe with this schlump

― 乒乓, Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:41 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ty for this btw, am only just getting to look at it, am finding it weirdly hypnotic. i think bc she's a technically gifted photographer who is shooting v messily sometimes for the effect of it?

feeling this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--vlQ1AU0Ui8/UFiESeRbWdI/AAAAAAAAHRk/QyygZCqcaI4/s1600/Arianna&theFlame.jpg

schlump, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

please ignore my prior white-bordered-prints sass

schlump, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

man...

http://timethemoment.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/x52_hoe-ave-at-e-172nd-st-south-bronx-1970_.jpg?w=735

thinking about those kids watching this, and wondering where they are now and how they dress.

chinavision!, Thursday, 14 February 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

”Neither Evans nor Atget presumes to put us in touch with a pure reality, a thing in itself; their cropping always affirms its arbitrariness and contingency. And the world they characteristically picture is a world already made over into meaning that precedes the photograph; a meaning inscribed by work, by use, as an inhabitation, as artifact. Their pictures are signs representing signs, integers in implicit chains of signification that come to rest only in major systems of social meaning: codes of households, streets, public places“

plax (ico), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

otm

乒乓, Thursday, 21 February 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

http://lightbox.time.com/2013/02/19/a-casual-conversation-with-saul-leiter/#1

leiter is so good. I wish I could be like him.

乒乓, Thursday, 21 February 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

so many echoes of the future in those leiter pics - of [tomatsu & barth, & that totally painterly abstract quality that makes them confusable for richters or rothkos

http://timethemoment.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/xpf77522.jpghttp://timethemoment.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/xpf107793.jpg

interesting to note the last shot is 2004 - would love to see more of his recent stuff, that single image does seem to have more of that kinda new, "democratic" sensibility

schlump, Thursday, 21 February 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

he puts the telephoto to such good work - the telephoto is not meant to zoom in on far away objects, it's meant to frame the immediate present

乒乓, Thursday, 21 February 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.zhangkechun.com/

乒乓, Friday, 22 February 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ow6C-4pyjw

乒乓, Friday, 22 February 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

haha, from that leiter page

And his color photographs predate those of “pioneer” William Eggleston by a quarter of a century.

huh, sure Eggleston, "pioneer," whatever nice try

chinavision!, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

they have almost nothing in common besides working in color

乒乓, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

I should have properly put that sentence in quotes in case anyone thinks that reflects my thoughts

And his color photographs predate those of “pioneer” William Eggleston by a quarter of a century.

-Time Magazine, 2013

chinavision!, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.findingvivianmaier.com/Finding_Vivian_Maier/Trailer.html

guessing you guys know about this, right

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 22 February 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

oh wow. & there's film, too.

schlump, Saturday, 23 February 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

her portraits - the girl in the car, say - are just so almost unrealistically good.

schlump, Saturday, 23 February 2013 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

i sorta hmmmed through that, they are kinda clunky imo :/

schlump, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, patternizing the images is a little heavyhanded - but the first one, man. probably feel affected because mental illness scares me.

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

no, sure. i feel like getting to put together a set of images with stray captions & to sorta work the space in between them is doing a lot. I would read stories about the Invisible Man even if they weren't well written, just because it's interesting territory, & this all - the old photos, &c - is a lot to think about.

schlump, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:38 (eleven years ago) link

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/when-violence-is-against-domestics/

feel the personal reverberations from this one :/

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

they're really fine. feels crude to talk technically when its power isn't really coming from there but the kinda less-contrasty/more midtone-y vibe makes the interiors so vivid.

schlump, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

btw can we change the board description to "the pretty toney album"

schlump, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

haha agreed

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

we've linked to jeff bridges' stuff before but this post has a lot more

http://everyday-i-show.livejournal.com/203503.html

fabulous stuff makes me wanna go out and get an xpan rite now

also v appropriate that he would use an xpan on a movie set

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

http://photographyofchina.com/Zhang-Yaxin#.US44LOvF00x

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

linked to him above thread but there's some new pics in this post

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/01/chinese-family-memories-recycled/

乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

also more bertien! http://lpvmagazine.com/2012/04/bertien-van-manen-lets-sit-down-before-we-go/

乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/vezsB3P.jpg

乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

can you even imagine.

乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

where's that from? I didn't see that photo in the bertien link.

chinavision!, Friday, 1 March 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

oh never mind, I see it's on her website: http://www.bertienvanmanen.nl/

chinavision!, Friday, 1 March 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

there's a time lightbox article on her too

乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

Bridges uses a Widelux. They used to be relatively inexpensive (vs. Xpan) but it looks like that's no longer the case.

I wanted an Xpan to try and stage deadpan-style 'movie stills' for a class but there was zero chance of getting one back then.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 1 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.americansuburbx.com/series-2/f/fred-herzog-color

乒乓, Monday, 4 March 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/FgHcBkA.jpg

乒乓, Monday, 4 March 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/b2QlAgX.jpg

乒乓, Monday, 4 March 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://homemoviearchive.tumblr.com/

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

i love artificial environments

http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/03/mark-bramley-landscapes/?viewall=true

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

http://art.chicagobooth.edu/images/display_b_Zuma_F_.jpg

has this thread ever had any discussion on john divola i don't remember?

plax (ico), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like he's been linked before but not discussed (not like most things itt get discussed anyway)

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

oh i know but sometimes they do as well. i just think hes really interesting because his photographs are really interesting pictures but that interest sits uneasily with how they function conceptually, their relationship to performance and social intervention almost.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link


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