Thread for continued speculation on l'affaire KEYSY etc, rolling reactionary stupidity/misogyny/prejudice in football

are they talking about louise from eternal

The debate about the C-word has been extensive on ILX and my personal take on it is that the word as used in the UK has become divorced from misogynist invective in the same way that cock or dick as terms of abuse don't really connect to the image of the male member. Obviously in a private discourse with somebody who was offended by the use of the word I would avoid using it, but an internet message board is a different level of discourse in which the potential for offence is so limitless that a blanket avoidance of potentially offensive language is not possible.

In these cases we have agreed that only blatant hate speech is to be forbidden, which is why this board would not welcome, say, Jack Straw, to name one famous racist cunt.

surprising how buffon, baros and aaron hunt arent our 3 favourite current players

This is the 21st century, for heaven’s sake. As long as they are not distracting the male players with their come-hither smiles and intoxicating musk, or suffering their mood-altering “monthly business”, then what is the problem?

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Gray and Keys’s crime was not to be sexist, but to be sexist towards women. Worse still, they foolishly chose to target not the entire gender but a blameless individual with a name, a heart, a face and a soul. Not to mention rather lovely legs.

The great thing about weeks like this is you can update your .xls of complete fucking bell-ends

lol that's such a 'regional paper' column I could well believe it to be a parody

I do not claim to be a broadcasting expert (as you can hear for yourself when I cover the Pete Price Show on Radio City 96.7, all next week)

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how did u find that allardyce clip....it had like 300 views on youtube

if the press are going to run and run with the misoj in football theme then i could see attn being drawn to that

might be worth emailing to a few news providers idk, he is actually sexually humiliating an irl person in a manner p similar to that which did for gray

RT @hofflimits: I heard a female Assistant Referee is going to explain the Equality Act to Andy Gray and Richard keys using condiments on the kitchen table.

Good work

That "would you smash it?" thing is just cringeworthy, Keysey butting into the conversation in a desperate attempt to be one of the lads. I like Gullit fixating intently on his Blackberry rather than acknowledging him.

I think "would smash" is probably dead as a meme.

Where's the Allardyce clip again?

au contraire, WS has just picked up a whole new set of useful connotations

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that gleeful little squint and headroll is hilariously reminiscent of a good friend of mine

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good luck with that.

i wasn't there for the birth of ws but i thought it was always supposed to go with how creepy and dommy p the thread intention was? keysy fits right in with whoever it was this morning going "oh noes! her skin has a slight mark! ew!"

Keys on TalkSport in a few minutes apparently.

oh crap that means i have to stop listening to the elgar viloin sonata on r3

I wonder if the "smash it"/"hanging out the back of it" thing will come up, guessing not.

Keys is the oldest person i've ever heard say 'smash it' - picked it up from the runner?

this is great

he actually tried to twist it around to blaming brady for not taking his calls

hawksbee and jacobs oozing subtle disdain for him

also apparently it's not the time to have the discussion about the appropriateness of sexist banter, even thoughe he says he's apologised for it several times

"political correctness gone maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!"

i pray hawksbee does not think that himself, though i distrust him since harry hill's i wanna baby single

"dark forces" lol

"it's for others to say whether we were the best at our job, we like to think we were"

"leave sian massey alone, get off her case"

classic tactics being employed here

this is getting very awkward isn't it.

he's very very defensive, and not mortified about what he said at all.

what a curious interview

he's mortified about what's been made about it and that he was caught. the repeated 'im very sorry, not for myself, but for others' is absolutely head achign in its insincerity.

i feel like he kind of turned it around by the end, the stuff about behavior that needs reconstructing and stuff like that. i don't feel like he's insincere because i kind of believe he wants to resign in protest at andy grey being sacked, & is too conceited want to keep his job at all cost

Keys granting his interview to the official radio voice of white van man is a clever move on his part, he knows he's talking to an audiencce of people who basically agree with him.

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/richard-keys-takes-to-airwaves-to-defend-sexism-leaks-2011-01/

Full version here.

Did they really run an erectile dysfunction ad straight after the interview?

is it plausible that it took a media firestorm for keys to consider the ramifications of this shit? it hardly seems it.

"that's for others to decide" abt stuff that he obv agreed with, and brady not taking his calls, and "you hear more complaints than support when something like this happens" and his "she got the call right, thank god" and charlotte "SHE CAN HANDLE HERSELF" and oh so many things, absolutely infuriating

who exactly is "on sian massey's case"...he's the dickhead who called her entire career into question. also "just banter" etc...fuck off. "just banter" is the new standard defence of racism/sexism etc.

major lols in my office at the bit about brady "i don't know why she didn't take the call". hmmm i can think of a reason!!

i feel like he kind of turned it around by the end, the stuff about behavior that needs reconstructing and stuff like that. i don't feel like he's insincere because i kind of believe he wants to resign in protest at andy grey being sacked, & is too conceited want to keep his job at all cost

bog standard 'mea culpa i need to go pray with my pastor' stuff, no?

What are these DARK FORCES that are massing against him?

dark, hairy forces

if he wasn't such a repulsive fella i'd have some sympathy for him. if you're 50-odd and going around talking about smashing and banging and the other stuff he's on about at every opportunity, in the way he's on about it, then you're a sad sad man with some significant issues to work out.

bog standard 'mea culpa i need to go pray with my pastor' stuff, no?

― henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, January 26, 2011

yeah maybe, maybe i was just dying for some shit that was clearly not coded stuff for his supporters

if he wasn't such a repulsive fella i'd have some sympathy for him. if you're 50-odd and going around talking about smashing and banging and the other stuff he's on about at every opportunity, in the way he's on about it, then you're a sad sad man with some significant issues to work out.

OTM (except I wouldn't feel sympathy). He comes across as someone who actually *hates* women. And in the 'smash it' clip, he just comes across as desperately trying to ingratiate himself with Redknapp etc.

i feel disappointed he's been allowed to try and apologise for this. nothing he says alters the hateful tone. like if there was an element of wit in what he said you could call it banter, even if it was offensive. but that "do us a favour love" and worse, his "HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH" in all these emerging clips just damns the guy. what a rodent.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/01/sky-sports-keys-gray-melvin

So basically, everyone who has ever worked on Soccer Sunday hates them and will be partying in the streets like Thatcher's just died.

Also enjoyed his lofty "my information is it does" with reference to Rio Ferdinand and whether 'this sort of thing' goes on in Utd dressing room. His information?? Has he got some network of spies or something?

[CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT]s the same people as Rio, Nani and Anderson is my bet.