alastair johnson getting an easy ride, hes slagging whyte saying he will only look after himself not the clubs interests, but noones saying but it was your board that caused this not whyte's.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
What did his board cause? This has nothing to do with the tax case, which is the old board's fault.
Craig Whyte said he would pay off the Lloyd's debt and invest an additional 15 million in the club. He took over just as all the season ticket money came in. He borrowed another 20 mill against future ticket sales. He sold their top scorer. Where is the money?
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
Why let the facts get in the way of random speculation?
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
im talking about the board johnson was on
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
the problems all started there. not just the tax case. clearly they were in trouble anyway. Whyte obviously not blameless since he took over.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
Rangers statement in fullhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-17019847
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
So what odds accountancy's answer to Stuart Baxter, KPMG's Blair Nimmo, will be made administrator...?
― sktsh, Monday, 13 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
Some are saying that Whyte is just trying to 'twist the arm' of hmrc into giving in (to what extent i don't know) , but if they don't, Rangers will go into administration to protect Whyte.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/jimtraynor/2012/02/stop-the-blame-excuses-craig.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDailyRecord%2FJimTraynor+%28The+Daily+Record+-+Jim+Traynor%29
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
thats traynor off whytes xmas card list
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://img.skitch.com/20120213-rraiw88yip5u57pdgxus6kxwyb.jpg
― john terje (cozen), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
pfunkboy, that "some are saying..." thing is what we've been saying for ages - that Whyte is out for himself and fuck Rangers and fuck their creditors. If this is just dawning on because you refuse to believe researched stuff read from somewhere unless it's in black and white in a tabloid, then you are basically Hugh Keevins.
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
i am not refusing to believe anything.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-17021584
A stockbroking company which has Rangers owner Craig Whyte as board secretary has been banned from further trading by the financial regulator.The Financial Services Authority has ruled that Pritchard Stockbrokers had used client money for its own expenses, "thereby putting client money at risk".That means it "failed to comply with the proper standards and failed to act with integrity".
The Financial Services Authority has ruled that Pritchard Stockbrokers had used client money for its own expenses, "thereby putting client money at risk".
That means it "failed to comply with the proper standards and failed to act with integrity".
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
"where's yer fuckin billion pound ya cunt?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIjgyHui3A0
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
lol
there was a fit and proper test taken, right?Did david murray give it so that he could get out with some of his money intact?
i think mr whyte has over taken over from our own mr w@tson, Foolston and friends.
xp
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
they weren't very happy bears
hahaha, what an epitaph
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408049_3263165466506_1488314575_3165787_98406601_n.jpg
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
Gers fans staying classy on twitter
i think on saturday a very loud rendition of BILLY BOYS is in order..... what they gonna do... dock us points ;) WATP
Administration, job losses, unpaid taxes, possibility of liquidation? WE HATE KAFFLIKS!
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
pretty fundamental breach of FSA handbook rules
doesn't rain but it pours for whyte
― john terje (cozen), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
can't wait till Saturday.Bring back the billy boys for the day.Ram it up every rangers hating piece of shit #nosurrender
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
Gers fans staying classy on twitter i think on saturday a very loud rendition of BILLY BOYS is in order..... what they gonna do... dock us points ;) WATPAdministration, job losses, unpaid taxes, possibility of liquidation? WE HATE KAFFLIKS!can't wait till Saturday.Bring back the billy boys for the day.Ram it up every rangers hating piece of shit #nosurrender
fucking scotland. makes me hate my country some times.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
i bet theres arseholes out there blaming catholics for all of it
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Need to change it to "Goodbye! Goodbye! We were the Billy Boys"
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
or jewish and catholic bankers
who do they play this weekend? They will hump them then the games after that the lols should begin.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
please tell me its motherwell
the "ha ha" version of TBB remains one of my favourite get it right up ye chants
They've got Killie. Pretty much one of those friendship games with half and half scarves.
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://p.twimg.com/AlkGvH0CQAAI28X.jpg
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
idg this "when rangers die" meme
is it a reference to something I'm missing?
― john terje (cozen), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
most clubs do that. Especially against Airdrie. its the one song every joins in
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
at accies that is. i daresay if we ever bet celtic the hail hail tune would be sung but its never happened in my time. I wasn't at the 2-0 game late 80s (because i was at the previous 8-0 drubbing and decided i didnt want to witness it again)
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
it is a reference to what some see as the endgame here - administration > receivership > liquidation > RIP big man heaven needed a dignified institution.
I don't think they will die. I think Whyte honestly believes he can get them into administration, fuck over his creditors and get back out in time to be debt free and getting a UEFA licence on 31st March.
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
i agree. though if he forms nu-rangers after march 31 he can apply for a new license
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
New clubs are not allowed to compete in European competitions for three full seasons.
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
I thought a new club couldn't play in Europe for three years?
xpost
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
ahh yeah, of course.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
i was going by whatever news program said that they could re-apply.I think if he is hoping HMRC will negotiate a lower bill by saying he will pull the plug and they get nothing, then he almost certainly will need to start over again as Nu-Rangers. I can't imagine HMRC agreeing to take a lower amount even if scottish media start saying its better the taxpayer gets something instead of nothing(i can honestly see that happening).
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
Imagine every business then trying to 'negotiate' like that? So not going to happen.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
Aw, man, *finally* got SSN on. Gordon Smith!
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
btw, I'm trusting bloggers who appear to understand tax laws and financial rules and various related laws and guidelines above pishy hacks trying to flog papers/fill news reports who have done the square root of fuck all research into a guy with a well fucking dodgy history and any implications. It's not like they haven't had time to find this stuff out. It was only ever a case of when, not if.
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
cozen, more specifically, that song was originally about having a party when Thatcher dies and has been updated for the imminent demise of another scourge on Scotland. They might not die as such, but waiting for it has been entertaining.
I wish this had happened a week when I could give this my full concentration :-/
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
Traynor presumably not on Whyte's Christmas card list anyway as an employee of the Beeb (who he's fallen out with and keeps forgetting to sue) *and* the Record who finally broke ranks first on the Ticketus debt.
― ailsa, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/kIhsp.png
in the spirit of the community i volunteer myself as your token target-of-abuse rangers fan.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol i was about to ask if ilx had any rangers supporters
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
Hi Merdeyeux, I am keeping my abuse for the dafties who didn't see it coming and still think it's a press/Kafflik/taxman conspiracy to defeat Ra Gers. Some of my best friends, etc, and I feel a teensy bit sorry for them that their club has been abused to this extent. But that's just because I am basically a nice person. The reality is, they fucked over the whole of Scottish football for years (and withholding taxes from the country to boot) so fuck 'em right back. And they are, by and large, horrible. Turns out I'm not that nice. I hope in an ideal world that my mates get to go and find a club with a less odious history to support and the world becomes a better place.
(this will not happen)
Can we get a quick summary of your views on it all?
― ailsa, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:05 (twelve years ago) link
Report in today's Sun that their game on Saturday might be off as they can't afford to have it policed. Byeeeee!
― ailsa, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
Ready cash is going to be a huge problem for them. Attendances are sliding and, like us, most of their ticket income is already in. Rumour hazzit Whyte has flogged the catering. It costs around £300k to put a game on so it might be a struggle...
Where's the 3/4/5 million they got for Jelavic a fortnight ago?
― Sh3rry and the Bloodworks \m/ (onimo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:56 (twelve years ago) link
£300k! How does that break down?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link