are we going to speculate?
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
sure, it'd be fun if j** h*** sued ilx.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2105713/Stuart-Pearce-Ive-changed-making-racist-jibe-Paul-Ince.html
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure Pearce has many lively discussions about race with his 8NP activist brother.
― Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 07:58 (twelve years ago) link
Goalkeepers Hart, Green, Ruddy
Defenders Baines, Cahill, Cole, Johnson, Lescott, Terry, Jones
Midfielders Barry, Downing, Gerrard, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Parker, Walcott, Young, Milner
Strikers Carroll, Defoe, Rooney, Welbeck
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
when you see it written down like that...
― Number None, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
Standby: Butland, Jagielka, Henderson, Johnson, Sturridge
so, who's Butland?
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Butland
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
weak at cb, rb, cm, rm, lm, and upfront
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
Is that Adam Johnson on stand by?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
Or Andy Johnson!! lol
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
That midfield! Jeezus.
lennon doesn't make the standbys, lol
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
I mean an entire midfield with at best 2 players who've had decent half seasons (Parker and Barry) And Barry is still forlornly chasing Ozil in my mind.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
On the other hand Roy's done a good job of dampening down expectation there. Getting out of the group would be a Mourinho level of achievement.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
England shouldn't be boring. Not a great start.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
Midfielders: Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), Toni Kroos (Bayern München), Thomas Müller (Bayern München), André Schürrle (Bayer Leverkusen), Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen), Sami Khedira (Real Madrid), Mesut Özil (Real Madrid), Marco Reus (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Sven Bender (Borussia Dortmund), Ilkay Gündogan (Bourssia Dortmund), Mario Götze (Borussia Dortmund), Julian Draxler (Schalke 04), Lukas Podolski (1. FC Köln)
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
the two must meet
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
tbf any selection is deckchairs on the titanic stuff, a cm of cleverley and guthrie with thudd as registra is gonna get biffed off just the same
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah deffo. It was more like, as number none put it, when you see the squad written down you see what meager pickings Eng have.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
Vindication for Dalglish tho, we really have signed the cream of English talent over the last 18 months. Hendersen on stand-by to make it a clean sweep.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but picking form players from outside top four would at least be an acknowledgement of a willingness to try to fuckin change it
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
Carrick really should have made it. I've thrown a lot of bile the guy's way over the years but i honestly think this has been the best season he's had for Utd
― Number None, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
deems at this point the only effect hodgson can have is to suggest rearrangements of the old deckchairs and titanic metaphor
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't notice Carrick's absence but yes, hard done by.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
he was sitting in the deckchair next to scholes
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
carrick? oh shit, that's harsh.
i mean i don't think he's any fuckin use, but look who's going ffs
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
parker will just get serially fucked by every cm even like sweden
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
back to askin why the fa are paying anyone to sit back every two years and ask 'what the fuck d'you want from me, eh?'
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link
come on we all know what carrick is by now
deems picking grant holt or nathan dyer is not gonna shake anything up, the only thing to do is study how outside top 4 managers get better returns out of these even more limited players and try to apply it -- and even then lol premiership metrics in europe
downing selection is mad grating i agree but even then the only option is someone else a bit less out of form; johnson, sturridge, richards can be said to be hard done by but then theyre not even first choice picks for their clubs so
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:30 (26 minutes ago)
and i assume this wasnt a complaint cos lol rite back at u if so
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link
their clubs are far far better than england, tbh
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link
lennon's england's best right winger, unless i've missed somebody v obvious
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
deems otm
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
hartjohnson johnson johnson johnsonjohnson johnson johnson johnsonjohnson johnson
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
this tournament will be the end of the hype over him.
struggle to think of an english cm who'll get less overrun than parker, tbf.
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe Roy overlooked Scunthorpe's greatest ever player tbh
― Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
We have a second-choice goalkeeper who has been playing all season in the Championship and his morale is still probably destroyed from 2010.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
gk reliant on morale can gtfo play snooker or w/e christ sakes.
should, obv, have picked barton
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
Laura Barton I presume?
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen)
childish lol
xpost gerrard won't be overrun as such, just he doesn't actually do anything anymore. his goals tally is hugely down, he doesn't bother tackling/defending anymore and he never surges forward on the ball either as far as i can tell. keep waiting for him to get a new lease of life but don't think it's going to happen.
i just think parker is too ponderous for international level. he was exposed hugely in the holland game.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
parker is smallish, leaden footed, unintelligent and technically limited
all he has is work rate and aggression
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
a lofty ball descended, the scent of the sea on its fine pig's bladder, if that were still used as in times of yore.
then a striker cunted it into the net.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link
hey now it's hardly parker's fault that he's englishxp
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
Is everyone else still playing with two holding midfielders? Parker alongside someone else, ie Carrick, might have worked reasonably well, but we have no idea.
Foster, Richards, Ferdinand, Jagielka, Gibbs, Lennon, Carrick, Scholes, A Johnson, Sturridge, Crouch <- would stand a chance of beating that lot.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
surprised woy didnt/couldnt get ben foster out of retirement
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
the lack of interest in richards surprises me, he looks pretty damn effective to me.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
why would benfo suddenly decide spending four and a half hours on a bench in eastern europe sounds like fun
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link