Come anticipate Roy Hodgson's three months in charge og England with me.

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the two must meet

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

tbf any selection is deckchairs on the titanic stuff, a cm of cleverley and guthrie with thudd as registra is gonna get biffed off just the same

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah deffo. It was more like, as number none put it, when you see the squad written down you see what meager pickings Eng have.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

Vindication for Dalglish tho, we really have signed the cream of English talent over the last 18 months. Hendersen on stand-by to make it a clean sweep.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but picking form players from outside top four would at least be an acknowledgement of a willingness to try to fuckin change it

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

Carrick really should have made it. I've thrown a lot of bile the guy's way over the years but i honestly think this has been the best season he's had for Utd

Number None, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

deems at this point the only effect hodgson can have is to suggest rearrangements of the old deckchairs and titanic metaphor

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't notice Carrick's absence but yes, hard done by.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

he was sitting in the deckchair next to scholes

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link

carrick? oh shit, that's harsh.

i mean i don't think he's any fuckin use, but look who's going ffs

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

parker will just get serially fucked by every cm even like sweden

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

back to askin why the fa are paying anyone to sit back every two years and ask 'what the fuck d'you want from me, eh?'

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

come on we all know what carrick is by now

deems picking grant holt or nathan dyer is not gonna shake anything up, the only thing to do is study how outside top 4 managers get better returns out of these even more limited players and try to apply it -- and even then lol premiership metrics in europe

downing selection is mad grating i agree but even then the only option is someone else a bit less out of form; johnson, sturridge, richards can be said to be hard done by but then theyre not even first choice picks for their clubs so

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

lennon doesn't make the standbys, lol

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:30 (26 minutes ago)

and i assume this wasnt a complaint cos lol rite back at u if so

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

their clubs are far far better than england, tbh

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

lennon's england's best right winger, unless i've missed somebody v obvious

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

deems otm

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

parker will just get serially fucked by every cm even like sweden

otm

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

hart
johnson johnson johnson johnson
johnson johnson johnson johnson
johnson johnson

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

this tournament will be the end of the hype over him.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

struggle to think of an english cm who'll get less overrun than parker, tbf.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

can't believe Roy overlooked Scunthorpe's greatest ever player tbh

Djibril Citté (onimo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

We have a second-choice goalkeeper who has been playing all season in the Championship and his morale is still probably destroyed from 2010.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

gk reliant on morale can gtfo play snooker or w/e christ sakes.

should, obv, have picked barton

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

Laura Barton I presume?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

Lars Bender (Bayer Leverkusen)

childish lol

xpost gerrard won't be overrun as such, just he doesn't actually do anything anymore. his goals tally is hugely down, he doesn't bother tackling/defending anymore and he never surges forward on the ball either as far as i can tell. keep waiting for him to get a new lease of life but don't think it's going to happen.

i just think parker is too ponderous for international level. he was exposed hugely in the holland game.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

parker is smallish, leaden footed, unintelligent and technically limited

all he has is work rate and aggression

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

Laura Barton I presume?

a lofty ball descended, the scent of the sea on its fine pig's bladder, if that were still used as in times of yore.

then a striker cunted it into the net.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

hey now it's hardly parker's fault that he's english
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

Is everyone else still playing with two holding midfielders? Parker alongside someone else, ie Carrick, might have worked reasonably well, but we have no idea.

Foster, Richards, Ferdinand, Jagielka, Gibbs, Lennon, Carrick, Scholes, A Johnson, Sturridge, Crouch <- would stand a chance of beating that lot.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

surprised woy didnt/couldnt get ben foster out of retirement

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

the lack of interest in richards surprises me, he looks pretty damn effective to me.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

why would benfo suddenly decide spending four and a half hours on a bench in eastern europe sounds like fun

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think foster could be arsed unless he was actually gonna play, which was unlikely.

neither mancini nor capello seem to trust richards, he's always looked good to me.

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link

"I spoke to Kenny at length about [Carroll] ... and he was absolutely convinced about the players ability, personality and seriousness as a professional. When I heard that I had no further reservations."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

parker wins, protects, recycles possession, he's got decent feet and offers a lot of out ball for the fullbacks. Undersold itt.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

duh-duh
duh DUH duh-duh duh
duh-duh
duh-duh
duh-duh duh duh duh

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

I spoke to Kenny at length about Carroll , Downing, Gerrard, Henderson ... and he was absolutely convinced about the players ability, personality and seriousness as a professional. When I heard that I had no further reservations."

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Roy never fails to strike the wrong note. I've been stanning bigtime for Carroll, but now I'm not sure.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

england manager talking to a club manager about anything other than a player's fitness should be a sackable offence imo

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

bitter scot always a reliable source of advice for the england manager, i wonder did he call roy keane as well

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

cos kenny was likely to say - "you know what roy i spent £35m on the fucker and not a day not an hour not a minute not a second has gone by since when i've not regretted it and wept bitter tears at my folly. He's no good Roy, he's...just..no..good" (sound of sobbing down the line)

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

and yet still no call up for kit deal

r|t|c, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

I was wrong, Roy has failed to dampen down expectations. For some people I suspect such a thing is impossible


Riaz Hussain on Twitter: "There's enough in the selected squad to reach final of Euro 2012.Lets not forget we have 4 or 5 world class players included"

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

hart, terry, gerrard, lampard, rooney.
Bish bash boosh.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

maybe he meant the finals

Vermicious Knid A (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

tbf he didn't specify what year they were world class in.
Hart-2014
Terry-2009
Gerrard-2004
Lampard-2007
Rooney-2004

There you go

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

lol NV

pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Roy never fails to strike the wrong note

yeah exactly, knew his inability to control his gob would cause him nightmares in this role.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ronan I'm sure you'kk be pleased to know that the Bundesliga has not one but two Benders - Lars Bender AND Sven Bender.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link


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