Parachute money fails to deploy - the Football League and beyond 2015-16

yeah i mean when u think of the grim reality of reading fans opinions it's to his immense credit he makes it so readable, and that he's still sane

reading fans p sanguine iirc

innocent smoothies thread reminds me i have recently learned something of interest for the ilafl massive

Eleven Million Pounds of Ross McCormack: The Football League and Beyond, 2014-15
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&boardid=77&threadid=89023&bookmarkedmessageid=4715817

... one and the bloody same

haha i apologise on behalf of all cricket

how are the addicks looking anyway. i trust u have learned the rivers and path of l1 by now

it's pretty squalid from a pr perspective. forum is just one long "i've been a season ticket holder for 45 years but no more" despairing wail. we made some signings early on but seem to have lost the will just as the relegation exodus kicks in. cue revenant gnashing and rending, bold predictions of insolvency & so forth. but it's true - the loathèd belgians are offering season tickets at £175 a pop for the north lower - have bitten their hand off, str8 behind the goal, 7 rows back, gd keeping practice - and they've sold, what, 2000 total? maybe 3000? there really is a strong ongoing spirit of protest and there really will be a lot of stayaways. it'll take more than a few wins to get them back.

mind u the league looks p pisspoor this season. the big gap is between epl2 and l1 nowadays, has been for a few seasons now. so we shouldn't be too badly off. if this isn't sheff utd's year they're never coming back

Christ's cock! that L1 is tinpot as fuck compared to the one with Southampton and Norwich. But saying that, I have seen Town contrive to make weaker leagues than that look hard before. It can be a deathtrap can L1, even when it looks weak as piss on paper.

Some of the real pundits at the Racing Post are predicting a mid table finish for Town, their predicted league table might be controversial to some, but at they are researched and reasoned opinions.
"David Wagner is a bit different to the average Championship Manager and his exciting brand of football can reap rewards in his first full season"

1st Newcastle
2nd Norwich
3rd Sheffield Wednesday
4th Brighton
5th Derby
6th Aston Villa
7th Ipswich
8th Birmingham
9th TOWN
10th Leeds
11th Brentford
12th Wolves
13th QPR
14th Cardiff
15th Fulham
16th Preston
17th Wigan
18th Bristol City
19th Reading
20th Barnsley
21st Nottingham Forest
22nd Blackburn
23rd Rotherham
24th Burton

6 pts Newcastle to win Championship @ 15-8

4pts Norwich to be promoted @11-4

4pts Rotherham to be relegated @9-4

3pts Blackburn to be relegated @9-2

that looks truer than Holloway's

15-8 is probably a good price for Newcastle and yet over 46 games it just doesn't tempt an investment

would love Burton to stay up

I think they are all underrating Brentford and they could represent good e/w value at 33s. I would never touch anything as short as Newcastle are with a barge pole even though they probably will win it.

But it was Rasmus [Ankersen, DoF and tedtalk bullshit guru] who came out with the zinger of the night. Fusing corporate with club, his observation on the former QPR man’s prediction of 22nd was a simple: “Thats not what Smartodds says”.

i like them tho, olly was obv giving it large. some run they put together at the end of last season while everyone else had gone on holiday. if scott hogan keeps scoring like that they've always got a chance - him, sawyers and judge together could be lethal in theory in 2017. also i rly like ryan woods (ginger pirlo), might secretly be better than will hughes imo. dean smith is kind of a aesthetic flake though, and there's a benhamite instability there so we'll see

agree racing post table looks sensible. only thing i might quibble is wigan and bristol city, who might be outside bets for playoff contention. wigan have a strong young midfield and it turns out gary caldwell is a bit of a progressive tactician. bristol city seem to have bought well and kodija's settled now

midtable will def compress like it did in the prem. ipswich will still do what they do but the competition will swallow them up. birmingham haven't kicked on, expect them to be lower.

if dci pearson has got into derby's heads and they start well i could def see a punishing consistency there that others might lack

pundit for the mirror calling for a coventry league win in L1 wtf

we've literally got rid of all our best players and signed marvin sordell

:D

brighton appear to be about to spend £8m on spurs' alex pritchard. would say that puts them v much in the title race

think we are signing jon dadi bodvarsson of iceland fame for a mil, another huffer puffer runner type on the right wing/forward

― r|t|c, Saturday, 30 July 2016 17:14 Bookmark

QPR have pulled out of the running to sign Iceland forward Jon Dadi Bodvarsson from Kaiserslautern.

Wolves are believed to have offered the German club around £2.7m for the 24-year-old, while a number of other Championship clubs have shown some interest.

Rangers had been discussing a deal to sign Bodvarsson for around £1m and have refused to enter a bidding war with Wolves, who are looking to spend heavily following a recent takeover by a Chinese conglomerate.

Bodvarsson’s wage demands also increased, seemingly because of Wolves’ interest, prompting QPR to end negotiations.

http://i.imgur.com/dpV3zPK.jpg

tis truly the age of £5m ciaran clark

we are desperately short of strikers for Saturday and this is going to make for poor decisions in the short term, but Dicko, Zyro, Jordan Graham all deserve a chance in the team and i don't think they're more than a month away from match fit

forget that, Graham = October-ish and Zyro still looking at next year :(

http://i.imgur.com/w4dSwPN.jpg

this is new i take it

nothing says old gold and black like... the sun

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36503204

Premier league academy teams to be included in the JPT. There will probably be fixtures where the playing and coaching staff are more than the attendance.

new Wolves ad brought to you in association with Ulver

Bodvarsson deal's done already

our Academy team are in the Paintpot too, not all Prem teams took the offer and then it came down to Champo teams

Pompey fans are planning a mass walkout at their first JPT fixture. I didn't realise there was so much passion for the integrity of this great competition :p

gotta draw a line somewh nah i can't do it straightfaced

Lots of people seem super hacked-off at our place about this, too, though I can't get too excited about it. Umbrage appears to be based around (a) the way it was apparently sprung on the Football League meeting with no time to consult (obv this has a greater resonance for a club like ours where the Chief Exec is supposed to be accountable to the Trust etc) and (b) that this is plainly the thin end of the wedge for introducing B teams into the football league - I'm not sure it is but I think it does no harm to reinforce the point that we aren't terribly keen on our little competition being further devalued just because the FA can't think of anything else to do to pretend they're fixing the England team, ESPECIALLY when the measure being proposed would have no effect on the England team.

feel like if anything it might bring in a bit more revenue for some of the fixtures. the competition is so peripheral, if anything it's a pain in the arse having to play the extra fixtures in a 46 match season, that i can't see clubs themselves being fussed

I don't suppose the clubs are terribly fussed, no, I get the impression that it was kinda shrugged through. That says to me they think it has a chance of making a few bob which probably balances out the arsepain.

For example though, we get to host some cockamamie Chelsea U21 team at our place - it has about the same status as a PSF for our fans, they might whip up a couple of thousand people at a push, but I bet Devon's Finest demand top-level police presence which (unless the crowd is unaccountably bumper for some unexpected reason, like Chelsea sign Messi and it's his first run-out) will result in a net loss to the club.

There is, I suppose, a chance it'll work beautifully; more to the point I have a feeling the various clubs at the FL meeting which approved this did not just want to say no to *everything* and this was the least-dumb of the various dumb proposals.

that sounds about right, tho i seriously hope the police won't be allowed to line their pockets just because the name on some unknown teenagers' shirts happens to be that of a Prem club

Sorry, break this down for me pls: are academy squads playing in L1/L2 in the future or is it some new cup or w/e?

it's a cup only previously open to league 1 and league 2. it's existed for ages but is almost entirely pointless unless you get to wembley, then you can say it matters. the fa vase is more important

they've turned it into a mini-league system for some reason though, which means that you'll be seeing u21 sides from the lower-league teams as well

Nice to hear Newcastle and Aston Villa getting their own dedicated show on 5 live tonight, maybe the Championship preview is on tomorrow.

Ty LJ!

Not to go all 'in Holland...' on you all, but in Holland they've let academy teams of the biggest teams (PSV, Ajax) in the championship a couple of years ago. Just like in Spain, where the big clubs have a B team in the second tier, too. (They were booted from playing in any cup because of this).
Frankly it's a shambles. PSV and Ajax are allowed to play their subs, not allowed to be promoted to the Eredivisie (as if they even come close). Attendance when 'young' PSV or Ajax are coming to the Championship clubs approaches zero. And rightly so imho.

A cup I can see, but you can't expect fans to be excited to have Chelsea's academy coming to town.

One of my abiding memories of the JPT is of our kit-man telling everyone in the bookies to lump on Boston Utd because there were only 7 players in training that day and the manager wasn't arsed about progressing.

(No idea what thread is for what anymore, this seems to be the footy thread of the day, but holy shit Dundalk FC beating Bate Borisov 3-0 tonight in the CL tonight is something else)

LBI if this impinged on the league i'd be against it as anybody but because it's in a minor joke knockout competition it doesn't feel like a big deal

Yeah otm, academy teams in a cup no one really cares about doesn't seem like too big a deal. Highly annoying if yer team gets beaten by Chelsea Academy tho, but this doesn't seem as alarming as I thought it was tbh.

efl trophy is an ailing, probably dying competition for sure but the concern lies with the fl's continuing/deepening subservience to the epl and scudamore's vague-at-best (6 game cup run so what), insidious-at-worst (b-teams) schemes to improve the optics around its scant regard for youth/lower league english football

obv they can't not deal with the devil and his "solidarity payments" but there's pragmatism and there's a fuckface goon like shaun harvey grovelling at the trough while plenty of other glaring governance issues rot unaddressed

cup thing has been typically farcically executed in any case, chairman who voted for it seem not to have realised it was a "proposal to invite" as the money-spinning big club academies decline en masse

all fair points

It looks like Norwich have hijacked Brighton's move for Pritchard, the seagulls are crying foul.

Many xp to imago, p sure one reason fans of L1/2 teams are annoyed is that there are fines for lower league teams who don't play the same players in the JPT as they do in the league.

From the EFL Trophy rules: "Each EFL Club shall play its full available strength in and during all Matches. The League will from time to time issue a policy as to what constitutes 'full available strength'. Any Club failing to meet this requirement will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000."

has that always been there? i can remember us giving kids a run out a couple of seasons back

No it's new, maybe to ensure the EPL kids get a proper test or something? We've always played 2nd string in JPT til now

ok that is aggravating. i could just see a justification for applying it in a group stage but in a knockout competition the side you choose to play has no real bearing on anybody else.