"We've got bucketfuls of agents throwing players at us. We'll trawl through it." - The PL/CL/EL/world off-season transfer thread '17-'18

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“As I spoke to Ronald and saw it in his eyes that he wanted me to be part of his team, it was a no-brainer for me and the only place I was going to go.”

*_*

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

call the polis Dunc, this burglar is stealing all the wages!

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

I think I may be more concerned that our new shirt sponsor appears to be a bloody betting firm. It's a bad look.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 9 July 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

I'm not too bothered about bookies, it isn't exactly classy but definitely preferable to payday loan sharks. Although I would accept that when people have serious gambling problems, sometimes they will go to the latter to feed the monkey. Nobody has even heard of 90% of the new betting companies with shit names these days. Our new kit sponsor is (abandon all) OPE!

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

Buried in one of the many articles on Lukaku on the beeb, this was news to me:

Chelsea tried to re-sign the Belgium international but were not willing to match the fees Lukaku's agent, Mino Raiola, would earn if the forward moved to Old Trafford.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 10 July 2017 10:03 (six years ago) link

that seems like spin from the Chelsea side tbh. Although Mino is essentially a salaried employee at Utd now

Number None, Monday, 10 July 2017 10:19 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEXc-FBXUAAHCXg.jpg
lol! Ireland's Evening Herald have got Lukaku mixed up with Stormzy.

calzino, Monday, 10 July 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link

In fairness tho

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

his next album title and cover is sorted: Ready For Work.

calzino, Monday, 10 July 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

At what stage do we start wondering whether lamela is just a crack addict or w/e

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2017 11:17 (six years ago) link

Bayern are getting James Rodriguez on loan, for two seasons, with an option to buy him after that.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link

That seems like a pretty good deal

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

Bit of an understatement actually

The @jamesdrodriguez Deal. Loan: 5 Million Euros per year. @FCBayern can buy him 2019 for 35,2 Million Euros @SPORTBILD @real

— Christian Falk (@cfbayern) July 11, 2017

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

Ffs

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

So if he's shit they'll send him back, if he's great he's only 35,5 million. Real Umadrid.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link

It's a weird one, seeing as the price being thrown around for a permanent deal was 70m-ish. Bayern always seem to get good deals but I can't imagine there was any other teams in for him based on this outcome

Douglas Costa also leaving on a similar deal to Juve apparently

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

he must be on some fucking ludicrous wages or something...

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

I don't get why they wouldn't just sell him otherwise? I mean surely Mourinho could have been persuaded to lob £50m or so in their direction?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

well obviously he couldn't

I said when the rumours first surfaced linking him to Utd that it made no sense

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link

he's on 120k a week apparently

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

less than half a Rooney, seems fair

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

Dani Alves to #PSG, not #MCFC. Unexpected blow for Guardiola, who had big plans for him. Also increases City desperation to get Kyle Walker

— Oliver Kay (@OliverKayTimes) July 11, 2017

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

Rumours of Iheanacho going the other way as part of any deal, which would be pretty good business all round I guess.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

my brother tells me there's a rumour we're after loaning Negredo for the season. This shit is bananas tbh

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

thought Iheanacho had more or less signed for Leicester?

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

although it does seem to be the season of the snub

Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

City should try and buy PSG's right back now, Thomas Meunier. Great player and only 25.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

my brother tells me there's a rumour we're after loaning Negredo for the season. This shit is bananas tbh

― ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:20 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Negredo is one of Jorge Mendes' players as well, isn't he? That could make sense.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

Scratch that, he's not

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

No I already checked, not directly a Mendes client anyhow

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

Have you seen this Independent article about the Neves deal "sitting uncomfortable" with the author? I get the reservations but it's very poorly argued tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

I saw the headline but I'm bored of this Mendes = Blofeld shit already. Yeah agents are bad and work in their own interests, no this isn't unique to Mendes or Wolves but it obviously really boils some Brit journos' piss. Tough shit guys, we're in the Great Game now and it's hilarious, go fuck yourselves

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

Otm x 1000. Somewhat related, I had to laugh reading Benitez is frustrated with the transfer market. Poor Rafa. If you can't stand the heat etc.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

We are being linked with Chelsea's expensive flop Abdul Baba Rahman. We already have two quality leftbacks, so I'd assume Wagner would fancy utilising him in a more advanced role.

calzino, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 07:04 (six years ago) link

Januzaj put out of his misery with a transfer to Real Sociedad. Hope he fares better there than Moyes did.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 07:54 (six years ago) link

:(

his post-2013 career has been a major bummer. Still think he can be a quality player but he clearly needs a major attitude adjustment

Number None, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 08:11 (six years ago) link

Don't read f365 for the insight but their piece today on why Dier is worth 50m to spurs but not to united is entirely correct

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YNSUTqEssg

Noodle Vague & Calzino | Welcome to the Big Time | Goals Skills Assists | HD 2017

r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 09:59 (six years ago) link

ha ha! now we have become the very shameless parvenu vulgarians, chucking wheelbarrows of money in all directions, that I used to jealously diss all the time. I think it is fucking great fun as well tbh. I'm corrupt 4 life now and will probably start smouldering into a pile of ashes if I ever enter into Park Avenue's ground again! And will forever be underwhelmed by sub 10 mill signings!

calzino, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:23 (six years ago) link

it is kind of amazing that an agent is allowed to get involved with a club to such an extent. it's essentially printing money, even moreso than just being an agent is in general.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link

not claiming the rest of the game is any better, just saying.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:38 (six years ago) link

i think the extent to which this becomes sinister depends on how the Wolves get on over the next couple of seasons. top 6 finish this season is still a big ask i think, and god knows there's enough of our own fans praying that we fail so they can be right about the uselessness of players and managers who "don't know the Championship" and try to play "fancy Dan football" - which i think means trying to keep possession and play with a shape or something. if we can get up in the next couple of years and establish ourselves even as a mid-table Prem team i think a lot of the attention on Mendes and Fosun drifts away, or becomes acceptable because that's the Prem and everybody expects you to be corrupt, cash-splurging dicks in the Prem. i think the negative journalism now is largely about us as mid-Champo chancers having the temerity to behave like this.

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

"i think" getting a bit of overuse there i think

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

i feel like it's more because he's the world's most famous/successful agent and the relationship almost seems formal.

and it was then mendes says "sign that guy" when he pockets millions each time that happens. i mean to an extent this goes on everywhere, mino raiola has a close relationship with diff clubs obv... i suppose as long as it's not a formal relationship there's nothing against the rules. i think people have been trying to establish the extent to which mendes is actually running things.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:50 (six years ago) link

like eg mino raiola doesn't have a coach installed anywhere, afaik

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:51 (six years ago) link

haha v good

r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link

well maybe he does, but i've not heard about it. it doesn't take much investigation to say "a mendes client is the manager", ergo an easy story.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 11:01 (six years ago) link

the club's official position is that Mendes doesn't dictate transfer policy, he's an advisor. well, we would say that, but it feels reasonably true. we still have a (imo pretty useless) recruiting team run by Kevin Thelwell and John Marshall. one reason i'm not that fussed about Mendes at the moment is that even the failures he's suggested/negotiated have been more exciting than the low-budget dross that the official team have brought in over the last few years - illustrated by us having almost nobody that we've been able to move on even at break even prices.

i'm pretty sure that Lambert wasn't a Mendes appointment, and he was shit enough to confirm all my prejudices about the Champo manager merry-go-round. we'll see whether Mendes/Fosun is a shocking breach of the rules, a taste of football clubs to come or something that will diminish if the project succeeds or fails badly. right now there's just no incentive for me to pine for the 1950s hoofball we've been stuck with for decades or to listen to media that regularly fawn all over the Scarface-esque shenanigans of the Prem deciding to go on a "this is taking things too far" steez because they think Mendes is a wrong'un. it's just fun and hilarious and i'll take whatever consequences ensue.

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link

yeah not trying to neg you or wolves - as i say i'm sure it's all rotten, just felt like i can see why it's a sort of juicy story.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link

Wasn't Allardyce at this same carry on, getting players to sign for his agent

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 11:13 (six years ago) link


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