Little disappointed that this didn't break gaa in wider ilx, there might never be a better advert ito buildup, context and actual delivered match
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Monday, 18 September 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
Did you advertise it outside this thread? Bcz the thread title is not the most inviting for newcomers.
Learning to appreciate a completely new sport is hard. I got into hurling because of ilx, your thread, and - I think I said this before - for the first hundred posts or so I thought you were all taking the mick, Truman Show like. I couldn't believe it actually existed. That was enough for me to get intrigued. Read about the rules, watch matches etc. But it takes an effort and I will for ever be way, way behind the two of you, because it's not in my cultural dna.
Hurling sucked me in GAA football, too, and I've embraced both, though at a molecular level it's still hard; I notice I miss things other people notice. Not a score, but the tiny things, things from around the game. And feels.
Having said that, someone like LJ should be all over this. Die-hard rooting for Tyrone, or whoever is the equivalent of Jute Gyte in GAA football.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 18 September 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
I can't stop listening to that midwest radio thing upthread. Martin Carney fucking loses it at 3 mins 12, like embarrassingly so in my opinion. His voice betrays an entitled rage that has no justification to it - I'd go as far as to see that kind of voice is part of the problem. Also there's a palpable vibe of the two guys secretly relishing the return of their old friend Mr Pain at the end. The game isn't even over and they're not open to the possibility of an equaliser. As a Dublin fan I still was nervous in the final minutes, they sound certain, but there's also a sense of the tension being relieved, of everything being easier when the thing you feared happens once again.
It's some fucking dark shit.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 09:14 (seven years ago) link
but i'm sorry, it's also hilarious. the main commentator actually has the tone of voice and words of a whining child. carney is like as if he genuinely believes this is the greatest injustice of all time - to lose a game, fairly played, between a couple of great teams. and his bitterness at "dublin will do whatever now, they'll do anything" - like as if we're supposed to try a fucking banana shot from the halfway line rather than (in truth, masterfully) passing the ball around to end the game despite a ludicrous addition of two spare minutes.
almost every dublin fan i've spoken to has a p negative view of mayo, which feels harsh, but the likes of carne are responsible for this. i spoke to a pal before the game last week who's v active in gaa in dublin and he said "i thought i'd never hate a team as much as meath, i was wrong" - feels tough enough on a side that gives it such a lash but i am fairly sure it all comes from the weird sense of hype around mayo, even in defeat they get the column inches. there is an element of addiction to the cycle of hurt and heroism - someone could write a thesis let alone an article.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 09:23 (seven years ago) link
i mean if carney drifted into the vein of a man howling at the cosmos for its indifference, seeking reasons for the random hurt and injustice of existence, then i could be down with it. but i don't get that from his tone.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 09:29 (seven years ago) link
Far be it from me to say anything about this being your focus two days after three in a row
It's a nice luxury for ya imo
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 09:47 (seven years ago) link
haha it's not really my focus, just itt. i've spent a lot of time discussing the dubs in the last 36 hours, with family and friends. i don't know anyone from mayo so you're the sounding board here.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:11 (seven years ago) link
I think there was one added minute to injury time. It was warranted imo and didnt a dublin player get a black card
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:15 (seven years ago) link
Another fucking cross to bear o it's too much god help us, mayo
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:17 (seven years ago) link
there was a lot more than one, i'd need to see it again but from memory there were 6 minutes added and he blew up at least 78:30, maybe 79:00. it was a joke. there were stoppages within the six but not three minutes' worth.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:18 (seven years ago) link
blew up at 78:50. I felt it was excessive at the time
― Number None, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:22 (seven years ago) link
Agreed on the stoppage time
it was deflationary for us imo, to be one down and maybe two minutes to play I think we could have used the urgency to push one last time
With six to go, it was a real sense of dubs in ten ascendancy and even if we snatched one - and let's be real they never looked like letting that happen- there was no trouble to the dubs to hit us again and then another few mins of holding us off.
The three minute the ref added, it was over at that stage tbh
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:23 (seven years ago) link
Not sidestepping the duty, but as far as being a sounding board goes for the MWR listening, Dublin hating, sorrow loving, conspiracy theorist mayo fan, and again I'm not for a second saying these ppl don't exist in great numbers, I'm probably not your guy.
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:24 (seven years ago) link
I mean I'm the mayo fan other mayo fans slag for being Judas if not joining in on all that shite, if I don't predict a win in teh final, all that stuff
I'm not, if spurs and Ireland haven't given it away, that type of supporter trevor
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:27 (seven years ago) link
Xpost There might have been 2 minutes actually. Yknow yourself the ref is always going to give the other team a chance to score in a game that tight.
I was watching the game with my dad and when Dublin were playing keep ball in the dying seconds he said "ah they shouldnt be doing that". THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:29 (seven years ago) link
yeah it was more curiosity as to their existence rather than lumping you all in together.
i do kinda think dublin did what they had to do. and if they had to do more they would have. they don't play with wild abandon in the finals under gavin, they never have. they just put themselves in a position to win, in the last 5-10 minutes, and usually take the opportunity. read jim mcguinness there talking about mayo throwing it away in the last 10 etc, and having the job done, and it's kinda silly. i don't have stats to hand but i bet dublin score a heap in the last 5-10 minutes. they have beaten the likes of kerry by 6/7 points having been level on 62 mins. a lot of that is the bench but they're also incredibly calm.
xpost the keep ball really irritates people but it's actually effective. two years ago in the semi-final they did that for 6/7 minutes and sucked the entire mayo defence to one corner of the midfield then passed to kev mc and he scored a goal.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:34 (seven years ago) link
cluxton did have one really loose handpass tho.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:35 (seven years ago) link
xpost to deems re "curiosity about their existence"
McGuinness is right about what Mayo have to learn but I think his use of that game to support the thesis was 100% forced and incorrect.
Nobody in the country thinks that you can shut down this Dublin team with 7 minutes left to play and only two points in it, and certainly no Mayo fan wanted us to try.
The moments that mattered, where it felt like we had a chance, were when we were dominating the midfield battle, Keegan goal, and the two seconds prior to Vaughan's moment.
I don't think McGuinness's suggested tactics would've worked as he says and I don't think we could have had the success we did in the game with that mentality.
tbh subbing McLoughlin and Moran felt like bad calls at the time, and seeing how we never really got through ye again after that I'm inclined to call them out as confirmed mistakes.
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:48 (seven years ago) link
LBI have you watched it back yet!
I think McGuinness overstated the thing a bit too - there were times where Dublin were a bit rattled but no more than during the games of recent years. Two years ago Mayo scored a goal second half and pushed ahead. Last year in both matches they had spells of dominance. But he is the high priest in the cult of "cause chaos in the Dublin ranks" - he's been dining off being the only person to beat Gavin for a long time.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 10:58 (seven years ago) link
The unstated fact is that it takes a hell of a lot to play this Dublin team that way. Add the bench they have into it and it's not tactical nor individual failure when they come strong at the end of a match, it's absolutely inevitable.
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:19 (seven years ago) link
Watched it last night! Of course not nearly as entertaining when you know the score already. Plus I miss the extra added tension of having a favorite side. Still, I thought especially the second half was great fun. I thought it was strange how Mayo played in ET. They seemed out of it, all of a sudden, bit all over. O'Connor was great. Vaughn's red was so stupid.
Discarding that I knew the outcome already, Mayo just never looked like they'd nick it the last 15 mins or so.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link
jesus ill say this much
i wouldnt want paul kimmage on my tail
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/paul-kimmage-low-lie-the-fields-of-athenry-the-gaa-story-every-parent-will-want-to-read-36879150.html
― .b derf (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
im pissin myself the more i think about this
what must he be like to live with
― .b derf (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
well that was a particularly fucking horrible injury
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
Yea very nasty. Poor guy.
Caught the last 6 minutes of that game today. I'd say they were the best minutes
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
seen angle from behind and i just cannot
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
I caught a glimpse of it on one of those GAA banter pages. Yikes
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 13 May 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link
rip
― repartee is deft (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link
just when i thought i was out
that goal from carr is the type of individual brilliance the team hasnt had since the crossmolina ronaldinho himself
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 July 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-playing-mayo-is-like-cod-liver-oil-you-don-t-enjoy-it-but-you-re-better-for-it-1.3951744
read that now and tell me that you dont want to get in the gaa. poetry.
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 11:34 (five years ago) link
oh its huge from the start this one
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
comprehensive victory for committed competence here
mayo opting for another approach
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
Thought it'd be a tighter game tbh
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link
spillane and everyone else did but the prick was like Nostradamus at half time
mayo havent shown
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
Standard is poor in this game
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 21 July 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr4eS2CUEAED_gp.jpg
― Number None, Saturday, 10 August 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
Kerry will be cannon fodder for Dublin
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Sunday, 11 August 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link
split the dubs into fifteen teams imo
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link
That was a great All Ireland final. Kerry blew their chance. If they almost lost to a 14 man Dublin team, I wouldn't rate their chances in the replay.
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Sunday, 1 September 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
ulster cpub semi final is a belter on rte2 right now lads, big final few minutes in it
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link
Play it again, Sam
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link
Perennial sleeping giants and serial losing finalists Mayo take on Dublin tomorrow, 3.30pm
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link
17.00
Lads
Of all years...... surely
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:05 (four years ago) link
I knew putting this in ILF was a mistake
Lads this is the fuckin one, read this and tell me you're not a mayoman
We are all of us mayomen
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40193160.html
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 December 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
well David Hickey as a urologist is used to talking pish, up the MAYO
― knowing for certain the first touch of the light will finish you (fionnland), Saturday, 19 December 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
Your support is noted and appreciated
Not even nervous for this, because ive been watching the grinch and now phineas fogg sure how could u be worried
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 December 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
Well the pattern is set as always
Outplay em, between conceding all those goals
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link