Tbh my knowledge aint worth much. Full disclosure the 3 players I've never been more sure about being absolute world beaters coming from the Bundesliga in recent years are haaland ( everyone knew before he even got to Germany so he doesn't really count) Bellingham ( everyone knew post world cup so probably doesn't count) and ...........naby keita!! never have I been more sure about a player ,based on his first season at Leipzig where he was basically Bellingham++. How wrong I was.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:47 (eight months ago) link
Salah can dribble. I mean he's no Ben arfa mind.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:48 (eight months ago) link
you could have told me havertz wouldnt have been a atar in any top ten epl team and id have called you a nonce and a liar and i might even have claimed u dint kno ball if i were having a very bad day
but then maybe berbatov himself wouldnt stand out in 2023 premier league?
it all started with malouda imo
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2023 22:49 (eight months ago) link
salah yes ofc
no steve guppy all the same
G Nev was talking player comparisons the other week wrt declan rice. He mentioned michael essien who I hadn't thought about in years but my god what a player to have in your midfield.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:53 (eight months ago) link
speaking of, sandro retired at 34 today
shone brightly but not too long but he was transformative for us when a screening muncher was a real novelty for us
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2023 22:57 (eight months ago) link
Mitoma and Martinelli to be added to Salah on that list. Arguably Son at Spurs too.
Berba would be a star at any time. His technique would still be better than 90% of the league.
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Monday, 4 September 2023 22:57 (eight months ago) link
i thought son would be offered but- possibly like mitoma, of whom ive not seen enough tbh- his control of the ball isnt actually very good unless its in the very specific subcategory of dribbling that bisects defensive positions at pace
and if i have to tap the capote/ben arfa sign i will
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2023 23:00 (eight months ago) link
martinelli beats a man and i like him but idk have i seen him dribble beyond fellas more than ive seen him wait out their tackle/move and beat them with reaction
i have, it will be noted, a rather specific criteria i use personally for what counts as "dribbling"
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2023 23:03 (eight months ago) link
All decent points but you said “successful” dribblers and all are “successful” at beating defenders through dribbling and will do so in every game. I don’t think there is any great aesthete
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Monday, 4 September 2023 23:14 (eight months ago) link
I accidentally posted mid sentence. I don’t think there is any world class Garrinchas in the league at the moment, but quite a few are still very young (Marti/Saka are 21, Mudryk is 21, Mitoma is 26 but seems like he is just blooming, Antony is 23 and Garnacho is 19 etc) and as they grow, we could get out of this lull of dribbling expertise
― sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Monday, 4 September 2023 23:19 (eight months ago) link
pls god
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 05:48 (eight months ago) link
Isak has this in his, erm, locker but has been non-existent whenever I have seen Newcastle this season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6gWAYu_RG0
― Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 07:12 (eight months ago) link
He was at Celtic for two years, he was no Paddy McCourt.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 08:24 (eight months ago) link
not by the time he was at celtic, no
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 08:26 (eight months ago) link
but mccourt is a good example of actual dribbling, beat you at walking pace kind of thing
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 08:27 (eight months ago) link
Antony definitely has a bit of the Ryan Giggs about him :/
― NickB, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 08:50 (eight months ago) link
so does Paddy McCourt
― Number None, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 09:24 (eight months ago) link
Unfortunately yes.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 09:26 (eight months ago) link
Looks like Mainoo is about to be appointed England's saviour as well as Man Utd's
No pressure lad
― Number None, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:17 (two months ago) link