france are always underperforming and the argentine defence is shaky, spain have been pretty consistent
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
Shearer saying he doesn't think the travelling times are that important - how far is it from St. Petersburg from Ekaterinaburg?
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
Does he know Russia is the biggest country in the world?
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
shearers fully lost it
― nxd, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
apparently the worst draw we could get would be Poland, Panama and Iran because getting a couple of big teams will allow us to focus. England famously being a team that turns up for big games in tournaments, of course. cheers Alan
― Windsor Davies, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
that's what the Beeb pays the big bucks for
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
agree that england want as hard a group as possible for as dignified a round 1 exit as possible
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
Loving Maradona's yellow bow tie
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
Not understanding why they're doing two draws for each team tbh
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
the 1-4 spots within each group are randomly determined too
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
tbfttl it's about half the distance of Porto Alegre to Manaus.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
Hold on, Peru are second seeded?
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
England are so getting Poland.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
spain and portugal in the same group is delicious
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
lol a timely reminder that Belgium are managed by Bobby Martinez, no sweat lads
― Windsor Davies, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
Oh good we get to watch England play all the dudes we literally see every week.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
I'm sure the commentators won't mention that.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
I hope egypt progress at russia's expense
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
mental note to stick a tenner on Iceland to turn Argentina over in the first game
― Windsor Davies, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
Group D is pure hipster shit.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
France, Peru, could be worse. Poor Sweden.
― Frederik B, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
Not much death on show yet.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
Apart from the group with Spain and Portugal in you mean?
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link
You need at least three teams in contention for a proper Group of Death.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
Yes!
― Frederik B, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
Fred will be happy.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
lol (xp)
small nation mentality
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
ok now Group D is pure hipster
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
Russia vs Saudi Arabia as the first game of the tournament. #getthispartystarted
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
Overall a pretty good draw, no? Denmark lucky, but apart from Morocco and Iran nobody can be that upset.
― Frederik B, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
group d not quite a group of death, more a group of sustained peril
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
great group for england
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
Group H could be interesting, all DARK HORSES all the time.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
when did England last get out of a group? they may have a shot
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
I think Morocco could frustrate Portugal or Spain
lol russia vs saudi arabia is on my birthday too - gonna be sweet
― nxd, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
i've decided i'm supporting mo salah's egypt
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
Overall a pretty good draw, no?
Dull as ditchwater for the neutrals. Apart from Por v. Spa.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
PolandSenegalColombiaJapan
^is that the most balanced WC group ever?
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
Calling Argentina v Croatia as the game of the tournament already. England v Belgium dead rubber probably the worst.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
H is the Group of Life.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
lol
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), 1. december 2017 17:00 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well, yeah. These two things might be connected :)
― Frederik B, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
Jose Fonte knows more about geography than Shearer.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
Spain group closest to something of a death group.
I expect Morocco to shine and take second place.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
PolandSenegalColombiaJapan^is that the most balanced WC group ever?― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:02 (forty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:02 (forty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
According to our agreed-on Ogmor Quality scale, yes it is.
The same scale tells us that the easiest group is group A (cumulative quality points 81, where the best team gets 1 point and the worst gets 32) and the most difficult group is F (53).
― Tim, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
now that's the sort of stats the people need to hear
― ogmor, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
Three quarters of the Spain group total next-door neighbours also, you could probably get from Portugal to Morocco in a car in an afternoon (NB this estimate is untested).
― Tim, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
(via Spain obv)
― Tim, Friday, 1 December 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link