Throwing Bad Money After Good - the EFL and Beyond 2017-18

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I guess it's about time, since we kick off in about three hours. There may or may not be some speculation as to who is ready.

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:10 (five months ago) Permalink

league 2 is gonna rock this year

nxd, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:12 (five months ago) Permalink

I am confident that Slutsky will get the best out of Hull's fourteen remaining players.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:21 (five months ago) Permalink

tonight's opening TV game looks like one for the, um, purists

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:26 (five months ago) Permalink

tbf hull have signed some defender from sparta prague

nxd, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:26 (five months ago) Permalink

feel bad for Hull, they're fucked until somebody can force the Allams to sell up

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:28 (five months ago) Permalink

got to spend at least 4 hours every day next week in the car with a fervent Derby County fan who i don't like much, going to force myself through tonight's game just so we've got something to talk about. that's the plan, anyway

trying to gee myself up atm by reading overconfident Sunderland fan predictions

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:32 (five months ago) Permalink

Wow! a real game tonight - I'm buzzing!

that smug Forest Green twat makes me want to smoke CFC's and burn tyres.

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:35 (five months ago) Permalink

didn't realise Derby had been strip-mining Hull this summer. Thudd and Curtis Davies for c. £2 mill ain't bad business

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:47 (five months ago) Permalink

fuckin hell man is it any wonder the stadium's only a quarter full. Sunderland have 90% of the possession in the opening 10 mins and then don't make even a token gesture of resistance as Derby walk through them to take the lead. this could be good fun :)

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:01 (five months ago) Permalink

There's something pleasingly old-school about Lee Cattermole the Sunderland captain.

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:13 (five months ago) Permalink

ffs Gary Rowett i want to like you please stop managing terrible clubs

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:14 (five months ago) Permalink

Millwall are currently all over lol Forest by the sound of it

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:15 (five months ago) Permalink

You can see Grayson has reduced the pitch size this season by the old lines.

Fuck me I'd forgotten they'd signed Vaughan, his knees won't last until September!

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:19 (five months ago) Permalink

xp to calz

yeah it's a pretty ragtag bunch of desperadoes and chancers they've brought in from League One / on loan this season

been quite consistently embarrassed by the way Villa have comported themselves since we got relegated, ito just throwing money around in a desperate attempt to buy ourselves back up to the Premier League, but hadn't realised until tonight quite how grateful i am for the largesse of Dr Xia - yea, even for John fucking Terry and his presumably extortionate wages.

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:28 (five months ago) Permalink

oh shit penno, that seems a bit harsh

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:28 (five months ago) Permalink

Brucey really aggravates me more often than not but i wd expect him to bring a steady, efficient promotion challenge this season unless key members of your squad go down with arthritis

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:51 (five months ago) Permalink

idk our 15 game losing streak (or whatever the fuck it was) occurred after we'd already spent the better part of £40 million buying up all of the supposed best Championship players. obviously the hope is that everyone settles down nicely now and we move forwards from here but all these cunts going on like signing John Terry automatically makes us favourites for automatic promotion UGHH FUCK OFF have these cunts still not realised that Villa Park is built on an ancient Indian burial ground

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 20:00 (five months ago) Permalink

keeping sentiment off my betting slip, I think the 2/1 on Brum is a good price today. I would love them to fail, but don't think they will and I think Ipswich will finish rock bottom this season.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:05 (five months ago) Permalink

"Learning from their mistakes or chasing their losses? After a chastening first year owning a football club, Fosun, the Chinese custodians of Wolves, took time to diagnose the reasons that the club lurched around the lower mid-table for most of the season and decided not to change the medicine but to double the dose.

"This is bold. Even allowing for football’s spiralling [sic] inflation, the outlay for the young Portuguese midfielder Ruben Neves was breathtaking by Championship standards. He is part of another group of fresh faces, several with Portuguese backgrounds.

"Does Nuno Espirito Santo have the experience to handle the Championship? Will he know what you need to know? Who knows? Wolves new owners could be very wrong or very right. What they have got right, at least, is to get the fans talking and mostly excited - excited enough to sell the ground out for the opening day, which is no small achievement.

"It will be a fascinating story either way. Wolves appear determined to prove most of the accepted conventions of how to tackle the Championship need not apply. If they succeed - and they certainly could - it will be on their terms.

"The owners are taking a huge gamble. If you bet on Wolves, you're taking a huge gamble too."

BBC teeing up Wolves nicely in a saying-a-lot-but-not-saying-anything-really kind of way.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:08 (five months ago) Permalink

Stoked for the madness. Sorely miss the heroic Wolves drawings though :(

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:08 (five months ago) Permalink

it's Jody Craddock paintings this season tho!

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:22 (five months ago) Permalink

i agree with Calz about Ipswich tho you'd think Mick would have enough dogged organization to perhaps tough it out when some of the flakier sides struggle. they look like a club in absolute malaise tho.

two thirds of the reason i want us to have a good season is so i can laugh in the faces of the "you don't get promoted playing football" section of our own fans

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:25 (five months ago) Permalink

I really wish I was going to a game today, getting strong nostalgia pangs for supping cans on a train on away sorties back in the day.

Will be interested to see if Stuart Webber's Norwich project are going to do well. Even though he did some very good work for us, I have a suspicion he is a bit of an overrated travelling bullshit merchant, who got lucky. And also just because Norwich have a better infrastructure than ours was, it doesn't necessarily mean he can go one better. Away at Fulham for them is probably about as tough an opening fixture you could ask for in the current champo.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:37 (five months ago) Permalink

it's Jody Craddock paintings this season tho!

― put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, August 5, 2017 11:22 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha!

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:38 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm looking forward to seeing how Martin Braithwaite gets on at Boro. He has never really scored a lot of goals but can be completely outstanding at times. He was phenomenal when Toulouse beat Monaco last year.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:58 (five months ago) Permalink

They definitely got more vfm there than £15m worth of injury plagued Assombalonga.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:13 (five months ago) Permalink

A bruising start for Orient in the National League, 2 nil down to Sutton after 30 odd mins, ouch! I can't find the old Videprinter live score thing on the beeb website. I see what LBI was saying on the other thread now.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:24 (five months ago) Permalink

Actually the new BBC Football Scores & Fixtures page isn't bad actually. At least you can scroll down the whole league as it happens and see which of your accs are completely doomed. I used to use the live videprinter page and then a latest scores tab for each division, which was pretty a ridiculous way of doing it really.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah the live scores page looks like it's improved quite a bit.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 13:32 (five months ago) Permalink

FFS Novak! That'll be my acc with Charlton going down already!

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:10 (five months ago) Permalink

first red card of the season btw

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:11 (five months ago) Permalink

omg! Leon Clarke is a Blade now, that be 17 clubs he's turned out for now.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:17 (five months ago) Permalink

Been a fun first 20 mins between Fulham and Norwich. Marley Watkins could have had a couple already

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:23 (five months ago) Permalink

I totally misheard that on 5 live and thought Norwich had signed Ollie Watkins

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:26 (five months ago) Permalink

Bonatini Lohner Maia has to be contender for best name in the league

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:37 (five months ago) Permalink

Nathaniel Percival Knight is another cool name.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:56 (five months ago) Permalink

i dunno this Brazilian lad he's not all that if he was any good he wouldn't of been playing in Saudi we shd spunk 20 mill on Andre Gray

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:02 (five months ago) Permalink

Wycombe vs Lincoln City shouldn't be a football match, it should be a feight to the death between Adebayo Akinfenwa + Matt Rhead!

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:06 (five months ago) Permalink

omg didn't realise Akinfenwa was still playing

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:08 (five months ago) Permalink

Blues losing :) very happy with how these games are going right now.

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:26 (five months ago) Permalink

great christmas for Colin and his happy go lucky brand of total football

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 10:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

off to my brother's to watch us on tv tonight, then off to the Mol on Tuesday, hopefully i am not the kiss of death temporary setback

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 10:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh good, a quality referee

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

holy shit mk dons played an hour with 9 men and won

imago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 18:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I know right?

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 18:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah stick a fork in it you cunts

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

gonna request a threadban quite soon I think, go and join calzino in the big boys' room

imago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

leave this home of the forsaken

imago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

we're not there yet and that was a glorious comeback including Nuno getting in the face of some senile old twats in their directors box

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess football kind of owes you lot this season, even in the previous epl stints it was still a little inglorious

imago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

shame there won't be a black country derby next season mind

imago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

also bristol city are wankers yes

imago, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

West Brom passing us in the other direction is more funny than disappointing tbh

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was wondering if Wolves had won every FL division and it seems they had that in the bag back in '87. The only one we haven't won yet is League 1, exclusive club to be in is that, only 4 others have done it!

calzino, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

We've been up and down thru the lot within my memory, kinda get used to the rollercoaster

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

come on you Villa

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Done.

You guys will cruise this with a 20pt gap the way this is going

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this is beyond ridic

lol Cardiff's Christmas run

you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 January 2018 19:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

4-0 lol

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 January 2018 19:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

never gonna shake Bruce off now

Windsor Davies, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

otoh

:)

Windsor Davies, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

well that was alright

you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 21:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

0-0's at half-time turning into multiple X-0's at full-time are the best

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

some of the philistines around us were getting a bit antsy by half time but it was just patient methodical build up until they cracked. Brentford played some good stuff but didn't really have anybody who could add the final touch

you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 23:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Surely you must already be thinking about PL football for Wolves next season. How does that grab you?

Terriers for example are holding their own quite admirably, yet the whole affair lacks a certain je ne sais quoi tbh. The weak become heroes, the heroes get promoted and then... The heroes are adrift in the small space of that wormhole somewhere between 11th and 16th. Tri-weekly McNult write-ups, Grary Lnikekerer "interviewing" yr manager every other week, fourth or fifth up on MotD. It's getting by, but it's not pretty.

I kind of care too much about Huddersfield and Wolves for them to be demoted to figurants in the moneyball that is the PL. But there's no way to turn. You do well and get promoted, which seems great, only to get eaten by the filthy rich.

Idk I am only getting myself down with this post but fuck me if I will delete this. Will post for shame.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 00:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Terriers havent got Jorge Mendes personally handling their acquisitions tho have they. sky's the limit once that tv moolah starts rolling in

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 00:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

scuttlebutt is that Andre Silva might be back on the market sooner rather than later due to the financial woes over in Milan, hooooo boy

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 00:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

According to some reports emerging from Italy, Wolves had a bid of £34.7m rejected by AC Milan for Portuguese international forward André Silva. #wwfc is expected to make a second bid.

— The 4th Official (@Official_T4O) January 9, 2018

well well

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:43 (one week ago) Permalink

dude mustn't be allowed to play in the Championship tho ffs, it's cheating

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:43 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't know, he's no Jordan Hugill

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:16 (one week ago) Permalink

he's the lad who kept Depoitre on the bench at Porto, so he must be pretty fucking good tbh!

calzino, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 09:54 (one week ago) Permalink

just trying to pretend we're not the unacceptable face of football capitalism

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 12:12 (one week ago) Permalink

VIDEO - RED CARD INCIDENT - SLOWMO

Lots of requests for this so here is an edited version of @StonesGoals Video of @HerefordFC’s O’Shea Red Card Incident Slowed Down.

The game is gone but should@the red card stand?

Doesn’t look much like O’Shea touched him 👀 pic.twitter.com/UYTzzXDsvY

— 🐮Hereford📱Goals⚽ (@HerefordGoals) January 13, 2018

Straight red for this, 10 minutes into the game. Shocker.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 13 January 2018 18:50 (five days ago) Permalink

i think this is the first time i've ever enjoyed something Darren Ferguson has done

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:54 (four days ago) Permalink

his dad was both subtler and more murderous tbf

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:07 (four days ago) Permalink

also, that red card - even if he took him out, the keeper is always getting that first. refs need to be professionalised

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:09 (four days ago) Permalink

or shot

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:09 (four days ago) Permalink

Ref didn't give it, linesman did. But I take your point.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:18 (four days ago) Permalink

what is the ETA of Hereford in League 2 at projected rate btw

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:20 (four days ago) Permalink

3 promotions away. We can go top of our league on Tuesday with 3 games in hand but fixture congestion is a real thing with 14 games before end Feb.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:23 (four days ago) Permalink

But how many seasons iyo

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:36 (four days ago) Permalink

I think we'll go up this year. Would rather be in Conference North for closer away games but we might get through Conference South (based on current makeup) at the first crack and North is much tougher. Conference itself is imo the most competitive league in the country, at least half a dozen v strong teams every year plus any surprises (Dover, FGR) and whoever comes down.

Our performances against teams from leagues above has been consistently good in both cup and trophy so I think we can compete but... minimum 5 years, probably longer. Maybe 5 till we're good enough to be Conference playoff contenders.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:24 (four days ago) Permalink

Poor old Tranmere still there. Fifth atm too - more playoff heartbreak beckons

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:27 (four days ago) Permalink

Yeah we was just talking about them. Modern football is rubbish.

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:54 (four days ago) Permalink

somewhere out there, Kenny Irons is crying into his 10th pint.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 20:40 (four days ago) Permalink

So, the FA took about 30 seconds to rescind that red card.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:54 (three days ago) Permalink

Game on! Jota was on for what, 30 seconds?!

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:11 (yesterday) Permalink

nevermind -_-

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:13 (yesterday) Permalink

have only been checking periodically out of superstition, thanks for the heads up

hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:14 (yesterday) Permalink

no problem. down again now though.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:15 (yesterday) Permalink


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