Throwing Bad Money After Good - the EFL and Beyond 2017-18

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I guess it's about time, since we kick off in about three hours. There may or may not be some speculation as to who is ready.

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

league 2 is gonna rock this year

nxd, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:12 (ten months ago) Permalink

I am confident that Slutsky will get the best out of Hull's fourteen remaining players.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:21 (ten months ago) Permalink

tonight's opening TV game looks like one for the, um, purists

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

tbf hull have signed some defender from sparta prague

nxd, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

feel bad for Hull, they're fucked until somebody can force the Allams to sell up

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 15:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

got to spend at least 4 hours every day next week in the car with a fervent Derby County fan who i don't like much, going to force myself through tonight's game just so we've got something to talk about. that's the plan, anyway

trying to gee myself up atm by reading overconfident Sunderland fan predictions

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

Wow! a real game tonight - I'm buzzing!

that smug Forest Green twat makes me want to smoke CFC's and burn tyres.

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:35 (ten months ago) Permalink

didn't realise Derby had been strip-mining Hull this summer. Thudd and Curtis Davies for c. £2 mill ain't bad business

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:47 (ten months ago) Permalink

fuckin hell man is it any wonder the stadium's only a quarter full. Sunderland have 90% of the possession in the opening 10 mins and then don't make even a token gesture of resistance as Derby walk through them to take the lead. this could be good fun :)

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

There's something pleasingly old-school about Lee Cattermole the Sunderland captain.

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

ffs Gary Rowett i want to like you please stop managing terrible clubs

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

Millwall are currently all over lol Forest by the sound of it

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

You can see Grayson has reduced the pitch size this season by the old lines.

Fuck me I'd forgotten they'd signed Vaughan, his knees won't last until September!

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:19 (ten months ago) Permalink

xp to calz

yeah it's a pretty ragtag bunch of desperadoes and chancers they've brought in from League One / on loan this season

been quite consistently embarrassed by the way Villa have comported themselves since we got relegated, ito just throwing money around in a desperate attempt to buy ourselves back up to the Premier League, but hadn't realised until tonight quite how grateful i am for the largesse of Dr Xia - yea, even for John fucking Terry and his presumably extortionate wages.

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

oh shit penno, that seems a bit harsh

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

Brucey really aggravates me more often than not but i wd expect him to bring a steady, efficient promotion challenge this season unless key members of your squad go down with arthritis

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 August 2017 19:51 (ten months ago) Permalink

idk our 15 game losing streak (or whatever the fuck it was) occurred after we'd already spent the better part of £40 million buying up all of the supposed best Championship players. obviously the hope is that everyone settles down nicely now and we move forwards from here but all these cunts going on like signing John Terry automatically makes us favourites for automatic promotion UGHH FUCK OFF have these cunts still not realised that Villa Park is built on an ancient Indian burial ground

Windsor Davies, Friday, 4 August 2017 20:00 (ten months ago) Permalink

keeping sentiment off my betting slip, I think the 2/1 on Brum is a good price today. I would love them to fail, but don't think they will and I think Ipswich will finish rock bottom this season.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:05 (ten months ago) Permalink

"Learning from their mistakes or chasing their losses? After a chastening first year owning a football club, Fosun, the Chinese custodians of Wolves, took time to diagnose the reasons that the club lurched around the lower mid-table for most of the season and decided not to change the medicine but to double the dose.

"This is bold. Even allowing for football’s spiralling [sic] inflation, the outlay for the young Portuguese midfielder Ruben Neves was breathtaking by Championship standards. He is part of another group of fresh faces, several with Portuguese backgrounds.

"Does Nuno Espirito Santo have the experience to handle the Championship? Will he know what you need to know? Who knows? Wolves new owners could be very wrong or very right. What they have got right, at least, is to get the fans talking and mostly excited - excited enough to sell the ground out for the opening day, which is no small achievement.

"It will be a fascinating story either way. Wolves appear determined to prove most of the accepted conventions of how to tackle the Championship need not apply. If they succeed - and they certainly could - it will be on their terms.

"The owners are taking a huge gamble. If you bet on Wolves, you're taking a huge gamble too."

BBC teeing up Wolves nicely in a saying-a-lot-but-not-saying-anything-really kind of way.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

Stoked for the madness. Sorely miss the heroic Wolves drawings though :(

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

it's Jody Craddock paintings this season tho!

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

i agree with Calz about Ipswich tho you'd think Mick would have enough dogged organization to perhaps tough it out when some of the flakier sides struggle. they look like a club in absolute malaise tho.

two thirds of the reason i want us to have a good season is so i can laugh in the faces of the "you don't get promoted playing football" section of our own fans

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

I really wish I was going to a game today, getting strong nostalgia pangs for supping cans on a train on away sorties back in the day.

Will be interested to see if Stuart Webber's Norwich project are going to do well. Even though he did some very good work for us, I have a suspicion he is a bit of an overrated travelling bullshit merchant, who got lucky. And also just because Norwich have a better infrastructure than ours was, it doesn't necessarily mean he can go one better. Away at Fulham for them is probably about as tough an opening fixture you could ask for in the current champo.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

it's Jody Craddock paintings this season tho!

― put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, August 5, 2017 11:22 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha!

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:38 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm looking forward to seeing how Martin Braithwaite gets on at Boro. He has never really scored a lot of goals but can be completely outstanding at times. He was phenomenal when Toulouse beat Monaco last year.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 August 2017 11:58 (ten months ago) Permalink

They definitely got more vfm there than £15m worth of injury plagued Assombalonga.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

A bruising start for Orient in the National League, 2 nil down to Sutton after 30 odd mins, ouch! I can't find the old Videprinter live score thing on the beeb website. I see what LBI was saying on the other thread now.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:24 (ten months ago) Permalink

Actually the new BBC Football Scores & Fixtures page isn't bad actually. At least you can scroll down the whole league as it happens and see which of your accs are completely doomed. I used to use the live videprinter page and then a latest scores tab for each division, which was pretty a ridiculous way of doing it really.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yeah the live scores page looks like it's improved quite a bit.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 13:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

FFS Novak! That'll be my acc with Charlton going down already!

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

first red card of the season btw

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

omg! Leon Clarke is a Blade now, that be 17 clubs he's turned out for now.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

Been a fun first 20 mins between Fulham and Norwich. Marley Watkins could have had a couple already

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:23 (ten months ago) Permalink

I totally misheard that on 5 live and thought Norwich had signed Ollie Watkins

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

Bonatini Lohner Maia has to be contender for best name in the league

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

Nathaniel Percival Knight is another cool name.

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:56 (ten months ago) Permalink

i dunno this Brazilian lad he's not all that if he was any good he wouldn't of been playing in Saudi we shd spunk 20 mill on Andre Gray

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:02 (ten months ago) Permalink

Wycombe vs Lincoln City shouldn't be a football match, it should be a feight to the death between Adebayo Akinfenwa + Matt Rhead!

calzino, Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

omg didn't realise Akinfenwa was still playing

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

Blues losing :) very happy with how these games are going right now.

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

haha - i'm excited! hope the game's fun, coventry at least play well, tisdale wears a hat and if we do falter, we at least can keep hold of mcnulty and jodi jones for next year

it's really my main gripe, promotion meaning we lose three or four of the best we have, i'd throw bayliss and grimmer in there
otherwise, i've much more enjoyed this season to the previous five or six, so if we exeter do go up, pls pls cov have a similar or better year next season

can't make it to wembley unfortunately, but three of my best friends are brackley fans who went last weekend and had a great time, told them to leave some luck behind for us

think exeter are the better team, but we've been so inconsistent this season between amazing and awful it could easily be 4-0 to either ha

nxd, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 09:57 (four weeks ago) Permalink

So Sunderland end up with the guy Rangers should have gone for - if only he'd been a big enough name for them - put your money on Sunderland winning League One in a cakewalk...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44238168

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

They'll have the entire nation of Australia to contend with

imago, Friday, 25 May 2018 12:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

there's Brucey's game plan knacked

A good "sexy time " album (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Odoi off, Grealish should be.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

more like Steve Puce, innit?

calzino, Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sorry Villa fans :(

not sorry Bruce :D

A good "sexy time " album (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Well done Fulham. The EPL is no place for Alan Hutton.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 26 May 2018 17:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

... and John Terry.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Bruce was saying he'd have respectfully let JT take a day off against Chelsea next season in the EPL, it'll be a bitter blow for him to now have to play extra games!

calzino, Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

gl tomorrow nxd + easy Tim, may the best team prevail.

calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

somewhat glad shrewsbury didn't go up. looking forward to righting a few wrongs next season

imago, Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don’t suppose there’s anyone in the world who’s remotely invested in “the best team” winning tomorrow! Appreciated anyway. Obv I want very badly for us to win but all best wishes etc NXD.

Tim, Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Shrewsbury’s goal today was an absolute wonder, really well-worked free kick from the edge of the box, best I’ve seen for ages.

Tim, Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

shrewsbury's goal today was reminiscent of one scored by iirc bristol city in the playoffs a few years ago

imago, Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ten years ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNApMCBkS2s

the second pass was better this time around maybe

imago, Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I liked this one better because the angles were tighter and it seemed to be designed to exploit the big space in the area left by an advancing wall. Have a bloke on the far end of the wall who just sits and makes sure he doesn’t get caught offside. V clever I thought.

Tim, Sunday, 27 May 2018 21:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Both the Shrewsbury chairman and manager look like complete fucking Tory jerkoffs, not that I'm particularly fond of Millers either!

calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

gl tim! no idea what formation youre playing ha, seems you've changed a striker for a left back from yr last game

nxd, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

tbf we dont really use a formation especially in midfield, i think this one has goals in

nxd, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I’m guessing he’s going 5-4-1 to try to keep it tight for an hour but that seems v risky on a hot day. If it’s 0-0 after an hour keep an eye out for Kane Wilson. I don’t think it will be 0-0 after an hour.

Anyway I am in a bedroom in an already-roasting Illinois (it’ll get to 100 degrees today most likely). I have my legal ESPN+ feed sorted but the stream doesn’t start until 5 minutes before kickoff so no tv build up. It feels weird. I’m going to have a bagel and try not to think about it for a few minutes.

Tim, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Xp agree about the goals but we’ve very little pace in midfield so we’ll have trouble hitting you in the break unless Jayden Stockley does his solo act thing.

Tim, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I really wanted to watch this, but I've got be at the swimming baths for 3. Another non-partisan gl lads! Although I still think Robins is a total bottling cunt after he walked out on Town after an opening day arsekicking from Bournemouth!

calzino, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

hahaha

nxd, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Good goals tbf, tbf

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 28 May 2018 15:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah I’m super-gutted obv but Coventry have obviously deserved it on the day. Well done nxd.

The approach of keeping the game quiet and winning the last half hour has been effective for Tisdale on the whole. The problem is that it’s miserable when it doesn’t work.

Haha we just scored.

Tim, Monday, 28 May 2018 15:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

4 great goals! commiserations tim, hope you guys can keep the team together and smash it next year
sat in the pub next to a 45 yr old cov fan who has never seen us promoted before, p weird feeling

nxd, Monday, 28 May 2018 15:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ricoh feels like my annual away trip next season, congrats

imago, Monday, 28 May 2018 18:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

no pen shootouts at Wembley this year, fucking disgrace!

calzino, Monday, 28 May 2018 20:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xp the staircase to the casino is p nice

nxd, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 08:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

wtf!

calzino, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Jumping on the Bielsa bandwagon fifteen years late it seems

imago, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

has Tisdale gone to MK Dons?

calzino, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Which reminds me, we were one Coventry goal away from GARETH AINSWORTH topping this list https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Premier_League_and_English_Football_League_managers

could still happen if Morecambe fancy a change

imago, Friday, 1 June 2018 20:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Exeter acted quickly to get Matthew Taylor in, just as Tim wasn't feeling very Eazy Devin about the JT rumours bubbling about earlier.

calzino, Friday, 1 June 2018 20:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Tizzer did not (apparently) give any response to the contract offer which had been on the road able fit some time. So the offer was withdrawn.

I don’t think he’s been announced as franchise manager; he used to say he wouldn’t take another job in football management. I expect him to join them in the next few days.

Tim, Saturday, 2 June 2018 04:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

he might not be able to cope (well I hope so!) with a mo money mo problems job where if they aren't in an auto spot there will be pressure. I can't respect anyone who is willing to throw their lot in with them riff raff, probably harsh but it's the way I feel.

calzino, Saturday, 2 June 2018 11:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah after Wembley he was implying that the great work done by him and his team was propping up the trust-owned football club model. I’m very keen to see him proved wrong (by our doing well obv). I’m also very keen to see franchise do badly forever.

Tim, Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

a shitty four years just got much, much shittier

imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:08 (one week ago) Permalink

sorry about Bowyer

VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:31 (one week ago) Permalink

lol, Bowyer is literally the least of our problems right now

imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:35 (one week ago) Permalink

but in short

- the takeover might not now be happening

and above all

- two of our players on trial for rape

imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:36 (one week ago) Permalink

i know, i was being mean

VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:36 (one week ago) Permalink

kick a man while he's down eh :P

imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:39 (one week ago) Permalink

didn't know about the takeover tbf, saw the rape charges tho :(

VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:40 (one week ago) Permalink

one man to rape, one man to hold the girl down and a third to film it. cannot even begin to imagine what is in these people's heads

imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Didn't see this coming: Bielsa to Leeds

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 June 2018 08:35 (six days ago) Permalink

shaping up well for The Damned United 2

ogmor, Friday, 15 June 2018 09:09 (six days ago) Permalink

the HTAFC supporting writer of dark occult histories, might just pass this chapter of the dirty White Shite's rich history onto the Green Street 6 team!

calzino, Saturday, 16 June 2018 08:51 (five days ago) Permalink

Micheal Collins, new Bradford City manager was a garbage player and not much of a thorn in the side of the British government either - but he did once score an injury time winner against Leeds Utd, so much goodwill to him.

calzino, Monday, 18 June 2018 10:21 (three days ago) Permalink


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