Hello Mudduh Hello Fadduh: ILX Rolling Parenting Thread

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Haha - wrong sport Archel!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/19/newsid_2940000/2940656.stm

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I never thought my dad liked cricket but looks probable!

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't wait to breastfeed, although I'm scared that I'll struggle with it.

Trust me, the first few days and even weeks will be hard, but after that it really does get a lot easier. If you can't cope, get some painkillers and/or cream. I did and it made it a lot easier. The funny thing with my breasts: the right one is still struggling a little - Ophelia attacks it baracuda style - and during the night they get massive. You can prepare your breasts before your baby's born: try drying your nipples off with a *hard* towel for example.

Don't freak out when your baby vomits a bit of bloody milk, it doesn't harm her/him at all. :-)

What made it easier for me: I tried pumping milk twice. The midwives frothed at the mouth but I wanted to try it. I just wanted to have the choice. It was as if I wasn't allowed, as though *I* was the kid.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Mrs. Hunter delivered a beautiful baby girl yesterday, 7 lbs 15 oz, 20.5" long. Everyone is doing well. Except I think the 2 year old is starting to suspect that she will be coming home with us and generally infringing on his domain. I'll try to get a picture up if I can later.

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Woo! Congratulations!

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Congratulations!

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, congrats!

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

congrats!

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

2 year old boy suspicious of a newly arrived sister, eh? This is a familiar sentiment, in that it was my own experience. According to my mom I would have nothing to do with her for a few weeks. ;-)

And, of course, congratulations!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

good job hunter family!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Rock on.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh wow! Congratulations!!!! :-))))


The breastpumping is not as easy as I figured. First time it went excellent, this morning no milk at all. BOO. I'll need to pump when my breasts are at its fullest,namely at night.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a girl!! Congratualtions to you all and good luck in the weeks ahead!

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Nathalie, I know this sort of comment doesn't help a whole lot right now, but whatever solution you come up with, things will get a lot better and much easier with the feeding, you'll see. Will try and pick wifey's brains though for tips.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Congratulations! if everything goes alright, Sara will be 2 herself when a babybrother/sister arrives...so please keep me posted on what to expect from the situation, it is what keeps my mind busy most in this period.
and yes, someone was asking, I'm Italian and we have all these sick beliefs here, like if you brestpump, then you loose your milk, which is FALSE. I never did it myself, but Italian mothers have so much pressure from other Italian mothers here. Why don't they just read a book once in a while I don't know, but when you meet up and maybe say, regarding some kid's issue, "You know, I read in a book..." your interlocutor will say (9 out of 10) "Yes, BUT MY BABY IS DIFFERENT"
which is probably true as they are all different, but here I find that this is a way to say "I don't care about your experience or anybody else's, I know better" and I think it is such an egoistical, egocentrical way to bring up a baby...

misshajim (strand), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Well done to the Hillman Hunters!

I was going to write last night that the Miller/Edith pic almost made me blub but I feel much more robust this morning after a stroll up the hill, so none of that nonsense.

Thanks for your words of congratulation on the house move. Of course, the hard work starts now - how to strip wallpaper, fit hardwood flooring, replumb the bathroom, install central heating and generally decorate with a one-year-old running amok? It seems like we might be shelling out for some burly men to do most of it for us, which wasn't the plan. Another reason why I wish we'd moved when we were supposed to (Sept/Oct) - Ava wasn't as mobile.

She's not sleeping quite as well and (inevitably, having had the briefest of contact with another child) she's ill again - bad nappy rash and chesty cough. I think this is something that we all just have to endure - from 6 months on they stumble from one variant of the cold virus to another like they're trying to collect the whole set.

And God, she is loud thesedays. I presume she's just testing her voice but I really should dig out the SPL meter and see what she can manage. Really explosive shrieks.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Blub away, Mike. It'll do you good. Are you "on holiday"? I am doing The Spy Who Loved Me extras. I am reliably informed that we haven't done them before, but I think we have.

Edith is getting louder too, and she hauls herself up in her cot, the better to scream.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link

No, three days off last week (friend visiting from Mcr, packing) and two days off this week (moving, recovering from moving). I'm back at work; it's all Big Cat Diary, Dub Dob Deeb and Dad's Army around here (but Fry & Laurie and Reeves & Mortimer on the horizon).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Nick, thanks for the encouraging words. I shouldn't complain though: my baby's gaining weight so that's the best sign that things are going better than I think. :-) I realize with pumping I'll just need to practice and do it when my breasts are full. :-) But any tips are more than welcome!

Gah, today I'm feeling tired and I also have a terrible headache. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 9 February 2006 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Congratulations and have fun with the new baby, Hunter!

Now I need some advice, any ideas will help even if your kids are a lot younger. My nine-year-old's eating habits are atrocious. We sit down at the dinner table every night, and both my husbad and I have reasonably good table manners. It has taken forever to pound into her brain that she needs to put her napkin in her lap, not talk with food in her mouth, chew with her mouth closed, etc... We usually have to remind her about these things once a night. But that's okay, I realize she's a kid and the habits will be learned eventually (even if it's taking years and years). The problem is that if we're eating a dish that she really likes, she eats like she's never had food before. She shovels it into her mouth and barely stops to chew. It's disgusting to watch and she usually reverts back to the shoveling a few minutes after I've told her to slow down. And then when we have community snacks, she does the same thing and acts very selfishly. Like we had a bowl of popcorn last night and she kept grabbing handfulls and handfulls and shoving them into her face, she was kind of bent over the bowl and guarding it, too. I told her to only take a little at a time THREE TIMES before my husband blew up and sent her to her room. I don't understand where this is coming from with her. I'm not selfish about food, sometimes when we go out for breakfast I eat only half of mine because I've given up most of my meats to the kids. And she's always had plenty, we're fairly well-off and there has never been the threat of no food. She's not overweight, either. This only happens when it's a food she really likes. I don't think this is a problem she needs to go to therapy for, or anything, but I'm looking for ideas on how to get her to realize what she's doing and to slow it down.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Trick that my parents did that worked on me (and that I'm planning to use on my own spawn as soon as he's verbal enough to get it): if I was doing something annoying, my parents would take me aside and explain why it was something I shouldn't be doing--very patiently, very calmly, but at ENORMOUS length. The occasional sharp reminder is something kids are prepared to put up with; knowing that they will be bored silly by an endless, tedious lecture is an actual deterrent...

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha, we never tried that, but it does sound like it would be effective. Actually, maybe we did try that, and what we thought was calm and thorough, she saw as ear-drill torture.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

My mom did the long lecture thing. When we were pre-teens, my sister and I gave them numbers, which irritated her to no end. She'd start in on something and we'd look at each other and say "#27 - Put your clean clothes away".

Rebekkah - can you covertly video her? Granted, a 9 year old isn't too concerned with appearances, but seeing herself might trigger something. We used a "fork down" rule (utensils are put down between bites) and the "this is soooooo good, I'm going to make it last" strategy, by example and when our kids were very young. The second can have the negative repercussion of never getting to leave the table because someone is really stretching out their cheesecake with the tiniest of nibbles.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Those are great ideas Jaq, thanks! I think I'll save the video as a last result, though, because my nine-year-old is starting to make comments about her body, and I don't want to risk damaging her self-esteem. But if she continues to do it, the way her friends start treating her in the lunch room will be even worse, so I'll break out the video.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see this could be a very touchy thing Rebekkah, because it's great to see a kid with a healthy appetite and good attitude toward food in general and you don't want to squirrel with that.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

As for the community snacks - if she doesn't respond to the first admonition to slow down, maybe give her her own small bowl with a "that's all for you, no more"?

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

btw, I think it's out of print now, but I want to recommend Logical Consequences by Rudolf Dreikurs as a particularly sane approach to discipline.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 9 February 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

it's great to see a kid with a healthy appetite and good attitude toward food in general and you don't want to squirrel with that.

I agree. I don't want to discourage her eating at all. Especially since she's not overweight and she's very active. She needs all that energy and food. But she also needs to chew between bites and stop for air sometimes. I'm going to try the fork down method you suggested. Maybe after a few months she'll have learned how much better it is to enjoy the food you love.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Thursday, 9 February 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you all. I've been away, obv. It's amazing how different our new baby Hunter looks to our first baby--she has an obviously thinner upper lip, pointer nose, and stronger chin. Same exact skin tone, brow line and forehead though. Weird!

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/6043/02080009pshop4x68bk.jpg

My biggest fear with the 2 year old is that he will throw something at her while she sleeps in her chair.

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 10 February 2006 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh what a cuuuuuuuute baby. *insert big grin*

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 10 February 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

How very very lovely! Congratulations again

misshajim (strand), Friday, 10 February 2006 09:42 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG KNOCKED HER UP!

We've got a new baby coming in September, hopefully a wee sister for these two.

http://static.flickr.com/21/24709235_b3a6a5aa81.jpg

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 February 2006 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

way to go onimo!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

[I love congratulating people for having sex]

teeny (teeny), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

You should establish a hotline. ;-)

So three little Onimos, that's enough to do Faith-era Cure and all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

[I love congratulating people for having sex]

ROFL!

Onimo, congratulations (on having sex and getting her pregnant)!

Today Ophelia had her hearing test. The cutest little headphones you EVAH saw. I couldn't take a picture as I had to keep her in my arms. Her hearing is fine. Only she has really bad acne, which should disappear in a few weeks. BUt it looks as bad as mine did when I was 14 yrs old. ;-) The woman also said that I should try to stretch nightly feedings. *shrug* I don't really want to push her just yet. As long as she doesn't cry, I don't really mind getting up every two hours. It's just when she cries that I worry and become grumpy in the morning. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

So three little Onimos, that's enough to do Faith-era Cure and all.

If you don't take a picture of them, made up as the front cover of Pornography, I am never speaking to you again.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 11 February 2006 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Bah, you're telling people. I was all ready to be good at the "keeping a secret" thing as well :(

Onimo's house, later this year:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000261EG.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 11 February 2006 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link

You forgot to photoshop the leashes around their necks.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 11 February 2006 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought baby was going straight into a cage?

(note to self: googling "pornography" = not a good idea)

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Time for another picture:

http://static.flickr.com/34/95772449_c8274aaf61.jpg?v=0

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 11 February 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Congratulations, Onimo!

Nathalie, that is one cute kid.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 12 February 2006 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link

very cute! it's funny how having a kid suddenly makes all kids seem fascinating to me. like, i knew the thing about "everybody thinks their own kid is amazing," but it also just tunes you into the whole kid-world. now all the strollers crowding the sidewalks don't seem like generic nuisances anymore, they seem like conveyances full of these interesting, individual little people. even when kids are being bratty i'm a lot more tolerant now, because i know that (most of them) are not always bratty, i'm just seeing them at a bad time.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 12 February 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

that breakfast pic is too cute! i can't stop smiling. :-)

re my baby: thanks for the kind words. she didnt get the cuteness from me, that's for sure! :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 12 February 2006 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, i mean, just OH, Ophelia is beautiful. As is this thread. I love it. Even if it makes my ovaries rumble and I have to tell them to be quiet. (haha, and I keep mis-seeing "Fadduh" as my last name, which begins with the first four letters! It's all subliminal n' that, ohno.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I literally lolled at the breakfast picture.

Mike W (caek), Sunday, 12 February 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

oh my boy had his two-month checkup today (14 lbs 13 oz!) and he had four shots, which he handled quite well, but after he got home and had a nap he woke up and screamed for a while. But now he's fine, just reminded me how lucky I am that he wasn't colicky! He's such a happy little guy, I love all the little vocalizations he's learned in the past month.

I bought a bunch of burt's bees diaper ointment (factory seconds are on sale from the website) and it's great, works as well as anything I've tried and has a lovely rosemary smell, it's like cuddling up to roasted potatoes.

I am trying to evaluate diapers and see which brands work best, some of my friends prefer pampers over huggies, some others say that wal-mart's brand is the only generic brand worth anything. Right now I'm just buying whatever I have a coupon for. Any thoughts from the ile parenting massive?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

we are a pampers cruisers family, a judgment made by my wife after some experimentation. i don't actually remember why she found them better than huggies. i will say they do a very good job of both containment and absorption.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always used Huggies because my firstborn had an allergic reaction to Pampers. I've been too afraid to try anything else for any other kid.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link


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