ILX Parenting 5: I'm a big kid now

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does swag really stand for 'stuff we all get' ???

I thought, 'This is Jeezo. He came in, he activated' (sunny successor), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

Sunny, that makes sense and feels like good parenting/figuring stuff out from the point of view of your kid. I like that story.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

i fed my nephew yesterday (from a bottle you dicks) and it was a super emotional awesome experience. im going to go nuts when i have this kid.

My Chemical Romance did 9/11 (jjjusten), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I wouldn't be surprised if something has been bothering K, it's just hard to figure it out when they're 13 months and only speaking single words. She's also just doing that testing vocal cords thing though, like today her grandma paid a surprise visit in the morning and she SCREECHED, but out of delight.

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

evie was grouchy and difficult for a couple more days after the chocolate bunny incident so i think it was mostly due to a growth spurt - she was tired and eating a lot but didn't seem sick. this morning she seemed back to normal.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Stupid-assed neighborhood kids are laughing at my kid because we make him wear his bike and skateboard helmets. I know it blows to wear a helmet. I sure didn't. But I've known people who suffered bicycle head injuries, including a guy who was so miserable through his rehabilitation struggles that he killed himself. There's supposed to be a law in my state, but it never gets enforced. Fuck these kids trying to peer pressure my kid into putting himself in danger.

how's life, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

My mom used to make me wear a helmet when I'd go four-wheeling. Pissed me the fuck off, but now, seeing some kid on the news who snapped his neck every week during deer season, I'm glad she did.

Who's the coolest dude in this picture? Not Dennis Hopper....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JnuWSL0fSMk/UIqD0944r1I/AAAAAAAAASI/0s9KQueR6Ao/s640/a1969-easy-rider.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

I was really looking forward to taking August to a Sears, JC Penney...some sort of portrait studio once a year around her birthday to get the same sort of photos done that I had to do as a kid (and loved), but found out all that went out of business. So I thought well boo but yay because all those photographers out there must have something awesome going on. But so far I am not finding what I want-indoor studio.

I wanted a photo of August in the same dress I wore when I turned a year old, the only "heirloom" anything I have. Just wanted her against a traditional backdrop, some color that complimented the dress, the lighting and that's it, maybe some in black and white. But now everything is outside or at some location about town. Just not feeling it. I'd do it myself but my good camera died and all I have is a tiny Canon. People in these out of studio photos look really over processed. What I find odd is how studio posed they are and it just doesn't match the location. Some make no sense like a child in a crate in front of an old building. Just think it would have looked more "organic" to have the kid sitting in front of a neutral backdrop with an obvious key light...

*tera, Saturday, 6 April 2013 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

this is otm http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com

Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i was laughing at that this morning

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 8 April 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that is great

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Monday, 8 April 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

One thing that is amazing about very small kids is the eye contact you can have with them. I feel like I so rarely have simple, unself-conscious eye contact with ANYONE. Yet you can look right into your 14-month-old's eyes, and she'll just look right back and smile and not feel awkward or uncomfortable or anything, and maybe she'll reach out and grab your nose or something, but it's such a nice pure feeling.

Today I also taught K what a "hug" was. I don't think she exactly gets it, but she kept saying "hug" and every time I hugged her she would say "od" (hebrew for "again") -- probably more for the novelty of this is a new thing than actually enjoying a hug, but still.

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

awww

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

One thing that is amazing about very small kids is the eye contact you can have with them. I feel like I so rarely have simple, unself-conscious eye contact with ANYONE. Yet you can look right into your 14-month-old's eyes, and she'll just look right back and smile and not feel awkward or uncomfortable or anything, and maybe she'll reach out and grab your nose or something, but it's such a nice pure feeling.

Today I also taught K what a "hug" was. I don't think she exactly gets it, but she kept saying "hug" and every time I hugged her she would say "od" (hebrew for "again") -- probably more for the novelty of this is a new thing than actually enjoying a hug, but still.

(from a bottle you dicks) (sunny successor), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

That was a pocket repost! Well it is right and awesome

(from a bottle you dicks) (sunny successor), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

lol whoa

ALE HOOS aka the steinfiller (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

i love this thread, you all have got darling children and you all are very great parents.

estela, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 05:29 (eleven years ago) link

H also taught her this thing that they call "metzach metzach dutz" (something like "forehead forehead touch") as pictured here (some random dude with his son, not anyone i know):

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CT06Wfd0GJHGXLQ78md1ONMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0

She is now known to yell out "dutz!" and bump foreheads with elmo, people in books, etc.

ALE HOOS aka the steinfiller (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

on the flipside of all the cute stuff, K (again, now 14 months) has also gotten very demanding and sometimes even seems downright angry if we don't immediately give her what she wants. Do other folks find this to be a typical experience? I try to set limits without being overly domineering about it (not letting her have one more cracker ad infinitum, etc.). I find it hard to deal with though, because one part of your brain is like "this is a baby," while another part is like "this person is being a real jerk!"

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

"seems downright angry if we don't immediately give her what she wants"

this is what we call "normal" around here

Euler, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I figure it's toddlerhood, but still, it's hard to deal with the way she'll just fucking instantly scream in your face because you didn't give her her breakfast two seconds ago

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

this is why we call petulant people "babies" isn't it?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure why i popped in here -- sorry for the intrusion! not a parent, don't even have any siblings, know nothing about parenting. i just made that comment because i thought it was funny that you were noticing that your baby was acting...babyish.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I guess I am just taken aback by the particular abrasiveness of k's demands

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

like there's this other thing she does that means you're supposed to sing for her, only there's like one song out of 20 that you know that she probably wants to hear and you have to guess which it is, and if you start singing the wrong one she immediately screams at you.

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

my understanding as a non-parent is that babies are cute, awesome AND can be total jerks.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds like time for time out!

(from a bottle you dicks) (sunny successor), Friday, 19 April 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah she's too young to get timeout still. Although I did learn the other day that she is old enough to fake cry, or as H calls it, to "squeeze a tear."

K: "Cheese!"
Me: "You didn't eat your egg"
K: "Cheese!"
Me: "I already gave you more cheese three times."
K:" CHEESE!"
Me: "No."
K: "WAHHHHHHH...[stops to see if I am reacting. I am not reacting]...AAAAHHHHH!"

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 April 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

tonight K soothed herself to sleep by sticking her butt all the way in the air a la downward facing dog and saying the hebrew word for cake over and over again

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

ooga?

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

yes

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

it's in a book she likes, bereleh the snail. she also calls all snails "bereh"

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

do u guys get PJ Library?

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know what it is. We have some israeli books either from my wife's and her siblings' childhood or that we've had her family bring.

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://pjlibrary.org <- it's free. some of the books are kinda rubbish but some are great

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

recs please, she gets bored with books quickly

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

this was one of the pj library books (a friend gave it to us - it predates our 'membership') but it's great and d loves it: http://www.amazon.com/Something-Nothing-Phoebe-Gilman/dp/0590472801

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

do they have any hebrew language books? K already knows more hebrew than english

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

she loves this too: http://www.amazon.com/Sunrise-Sunset-Sheldon-Harnick/dp/B005Q6G32W/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1366424859&sr=1-1&keywords=sunrise+sunset

but it's just the sunrise sunset lyrics w/ some pretty illustrations.

and she likes the 'what do you see books,' http://www.amazon.com/What-Do-You-See-Shabbos/dp/1607630052/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1366424904&sr=1-1&keywords=what+do+you+see+shabbos - but they're pretty frummy and i hate reading them bc there's no narrative

xp no, they're all in english. let me think of some good hebrew kids books - when i was a kid they were all like translated versions of popular english books. like hebrew cat in the hat.

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

recommend me some good hebrew language books plz - it sounds like u know better than i do and i'd love to get some good ones

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

she has and likes bereleh, lailah tov yareach, shmuli kippod, pinochi, a bunch of others I can't think of. As a rule, I read the ones in english, H reads the ones in hebrew. So if she asks me to read her one of the hebrew ones I just make up stupid english text based on the pictures (she'd never have patience for my slow hebrew reading anyway)

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

oh there's one with beautiful illustrations about a kid using his potty -- naftali?

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

oh, it's apparently Once Upon A Potty, but the original is in fact in Hebrew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Potty

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link

On the book, after the child uses the potty for the first time, he or she says “bye-bye wee-wee, bye-bye woo-woo.” However, in the Hebrew version this sentence also contains the provocative phrase “see you on the seashore”.[1]

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

i think i had that book as a toddler

Mordy, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

my wife explained that to me as a literal reference to the fact that tel aviv once had pretty poor sanitation/sewage and that waste was dumped in the ocean

charlie 4chan, internet detective (Hurting 2), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

August has thrown several bad tantrums since turning a year old only a few days ago. Today we were getting her photo taken ( boy were we getting taken! Never again, investing in a good, fast camera) and she threw several.

She gets pissed then squirmy and throws her head back and starts with the whiny noise. That is another brand new thing, the whiny noise. Then there is the fake cry and whiny noise. I was getting a bit stressed because she showed little signs of a really bad temper while we were there. Such a sweetie but she has this edge to her... Then a much older little girl and her brother came along and were being mean to August at the Lego table and well, just wanted to tell them to fuck off. But they were like six and seven year olds... still grrrr. Then I began to think way into the future, my child and mean people...her temper, got seriously overwhelmed for a second.

*tera, Monday, 29 April 2013 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

K has good days and bad days with temper. It's definitely fun and difficult at the same time once they learn "no", but K at least only seems to say "no" when she genuinely means it, and doesn't try to be difficult on purpose (I guess that comes later). But it's very cute the way K sort of frankly and firmly waves off foods/songs/books she doesn't want.

I have generally come around to a parenting philosophy built around a kind of hierarchy of needs: (1) Is she hungry? (2) Is she sleeping/napping enough? (3) Is she too cold or hot? (4) Is her diaper full of something? (5) is she sick?

I find that these things account for like 90% of bad moods and tantrums, if not more, and if you address them promptly you make your life a lot easier and your baby a lot happier. This is actually a way in which I feel slightly misled by "attachment parenting" readings, which I think overemphasize copious amounts of physical contact. Physical contact is important but I'd probably put physical contact and attention after the five things on my list in terms of priority. In other words, it makes much more difference to K's mood and happiness whether she has her meals on time than whether I take her to the park in a carrier vs a stroller.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 29 April 2013 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

August has learned no and shakes her head no-no-no during these tantrums. The hungry part is tricky, still working on solids. Not enough sleep is a problem that goes hand and hand with nursing, no nursing, no napping. Teething. I am catching on to the fact that she really doesn't like change. I thought she would love riding facing forward in her car seat but she wants it rear facing. I still remember upsets I had as a toddler with change. And once again, ILX helps me sort things out :)

*tera, Monday, 29 April 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

Hurting: K always sounds so adorable :)

*tera, Monday, 29 April 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link


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