ILX Parenting 5: I'm a big kid now

There's "that's how we did it" and there's the rider "SO YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE SAME". I hope even if I have the first I don't have the second. xp

More than once an hour? (xp)

Teething at 12 weeks, oh my Christ. Our non-crying baby has started, and it's heartbreaking :(

Aww those memory things were so neat! I guess my earliest are from about 3 since they're from when I was in pre-school but even those are so strange that I question their authenticity. My memory now is really pretty great but memories from about 3-8 are sorta patchy.

As a follow-up to my story about the car, my little girl asked me to buy her a balloon at the grocery store this weekend! I swear she can pick up on things like that. Anyway, they come with little clips now that help keep them from flying away. Still, it was incredibly breezy this weekend so I drove home with the windows rolled up and carried it in the house with her. Anyone else have kids who are psychic?

Some major cowinkydinking there!

When August was a real baby-baby I had these terrible dreams of forgetting her in the truck or leaving her on a store counter then full on nightmare of trying to find her and having lost her...I'd always wake up to her smiling in her sleep. Happened four or five times. A friend, who is into all things esoteric, said that was because August had escaped my dream world into one of her own and was being mischievous in doing so. I thought it was a fun way to think of it all.

I think it had more to do with nursing her in my sleep.

Dear god, alternating night fussiness because neither of them can reliably hold onto a pacifier is a Horrible Thing

We lined Henry's crib with pacifiers like they were landmines in the DMZ. Don't know if they can hold with their hands yet, but maybe they can roll over with their mouths open or something.

They can pull pacifiers out of their mouths and fling them at their feet. They can also spit pacifiers out and then roll their necks directly on top of them for maximum discomfort.

Ivy was the same way. She'd push the pacifier out of her mouth and then wail because she'd push the pacifier out of her mouth. Do you have bassinets or cosleepers or something you can move up next to your bed? Then you can dangle your arm into their bed and you barely have to wake up to stick the pacifier back in.

We had a pack and play at the foot of the bed (the only place it would fit) and Jeff spent a fair amount of time sleeping with his head by my feet so he could do this.

We have these rocking Fisher Price bassinets that we moved into our bedroom last night. I plan to move them back out tonight and go back to sleeping on the couch in the living room with them because OOF

Hi.

!!!

Due in November.

I've been sleeping partial nights in K's room pretty often. We came to the conclusion that it was best to just reduce her anxiety around sleep and separation right now rather than fight the sleep-training battle again. The hard fast rule is that she doesn't come out of her crib and there's no middle-of-the-night entertainment (toys, books, music etc.). Ferber says at this age it's better to do things that way, w/e.

Oh and congrats SM!

And DJP, the pacifier was completely hopeless with K when she was that age -- every time she fell asleep, it would fall out of her mouth and then she'd wake up again.

Congrats, SM! November is an excellent month in which to be born.

congratulations!

Amazing Scik, congratulations!

congrasts, sm!

congrats, even.

how do y'all handle sleep stuff when you have a sick child?

J has an ear infection, horrible screaming wake-ups, and generally not responsive to our normal patting/singing/comforting to get him back down. things got so bad a few nights ago that my wife broke down and nursed him - something that we kind of set a rule against earlier in 2014 after 15 months of frequent night-waking to nurse. he finally started sleeping through the night a few months ago so we're kind of terrified about fucking that up. at the same time though, with this ear infection, we just want to go back to sleep and nursing seems to do the trick.

Congratulations dude

abandon all sleep ye who enter here

It's that whole thing about weighing up what's best for today against what's best for the years to come, isn't it? IMO, sick baby definitely means doing what's best for today - resolutions go out the window.

(Congrats, Smouthy)

ear infections = do whatever works. all bets are off.

yea that makes sense. hopefully when he's healthy again it won't be too hard to go back to our normal sleep schedule

also nursing is cool and babies totally dig it

how do y'all handle sleep stuff when you have a sick child?

Ayeeeee, yes, very feeling this at the moment. Ella has a cold, not too bad, but the constant runny nose means she can't breathe at night, and it reduces her to despair and rage, which of course means tears which means nose running even more, which means no sleep for us. I shouldn't complain because she usually goes to sleep at 7.30pm and stays that way until 6.30am, but this is no fun.

Re the poo talk, it's always surprising when undigested and identifiable bits of food (entire dried apricot, lentils, kidney beans) emerge in the nappy.

xp lol definitely, nursing is cool and babies dig it. J is 19 months and still nurses a lot, but for our own sanity and sleep when he turned 15 months we put a nursing ban in effect from 8pm (after my wife nurses him to sleep) until 5:30 or 6am (when J wakes up). it's what finally got him to sleep through the night, which is why we kind of freaked out when he got sick this most recent time and my wife started nursing him throughout the night to get him to go back to sleep.

I'm talking straight out of my ass here (but as this is the internet, I refuse to let that stop me) but I think giving your sick kid that extra bit of comfort is going to be a net good even if it sets back the progress of sleep training a little. It seems like sleep, like potty training, is a two steps forward, half-step back kind of process anyway. Plus the little guy's only 15 months.

Like basically he's 15 months and sick and being sick and nursing is a comforting thing he can understand and it will make him feel better, which is the immediate goal.

yea, that's why we ultimately "gave in" and just nursed him, it is a net good (he's 19 months btw, not 15, not much difference though). but memories of 6-7 wakings per night, nights of only 4-6 hours of sleep are pretty recent. so it's a little traumatizing when our nights start to replicate those patterns.

btw though it does seem like he's feeling better. last night he only woke up once. so we're not in bad shape now by any means.

Yay!

hahaha "only 4-6 hours of sleep"

I would have killed for 4 hours the past two nights

Jeff: Do you want to put something on TV?
Me: I don't think so. It's pretty late.

It was 9:10.

I put something on. Defiance.

lol <3

DJP, can you sleep in shifts? That's what we did in the early days.

So did we, then the boys realized "hey, there are two of us and we can both scream about wanting to be held AT THE SAME TIME"

just to clarify, when i say "4-6 hours of sleep" i mean an hour here, 45 minutes there, hour and 10 minutes there. spans of 45-90 minutes of awake time between. it may have totaled 4-6 hours of sleep but that's in a 12 hour span. we did 15 months of that shit.

but i know what you're saying DJP. the stuff i complain about now w/ a 19 month old, i would have killed for when J was younger.

when J was, say, 12 months and i'd hear other parents complaining that their kids slept through the night but woke up "sooo early" at 5:30am i wanted to shoot them. that would've been amazing to get J to do that. now that that is exactly what J is doing (when healthy) i find myself complaining about it now. "wish he could sleep til 7 goddamn it!"

The object lesson here is that there's never enough sleep.

yr never gonna get any sympathy from parents of multiples (no offense schwantz) cuz whatever you're dealing with with your one kid they are dealing with x whatever

having 2 little kids is more than twice as hard as having one little kid, though I don't know how that would work with twins since they are offering more or less the same kind of nuttiness so you can optimize yourself emotionally to deal with that. when you have say 2 under the age of 3 then the older one is doing 3 yr old shenanigans while the baby is doing baby things. take that one to heart /axl

Anyone got any tips for stress-free car travel? We made it 15 minutes into the journey to my parents' house before Fox started screaming, proper fat tears rolling down his tiny red face. We're currently pulled into a side road in Clapham, comfort feeding him. We still have about an hour's driving to go. ;_;