things i didn't say at the record store

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calstars, Saturday, 16 September 2023 22:27 (nine months ago) link

that pressing of pet sounds (w/ the carl & the passions record) is supposed to sound really good? i don't care for that record much personally but that's what i heard!

ian, Saturday, 16 September 2023 23:15 (nine months ago) link

it does sound really good.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 September 2023 23:31 (nine months ago) link

a lot of people think its the best mono version of the album.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 September 2023 23:32 (nine months ago) link

have you heard the Duophonic version recently? or ever? Strange listen. It was the LP of pet sounds I just happened to have. The first one I came across at a thrift store or whatever.

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Sunday, 17 September 2023 22:39 (nine months ago) link

Was wondering how Duophonic Records came to put out a version of Pet Sounds, but I guess that's not what this is.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 18 September 2023 00:09 (nine months ago) link

a classic exchange from 2021. work is fun.

Person: I'm lucky to be from the Midwest, there are records everywhere. I know its getting harder and harder to find records.
Me: No, it isn't. Look, there are thousands of them right in front of you.
Person: Well, not for the prices i want...
Me: There are tons of $1 and $2 records here as well. See, you don't need to be in the Midwest to be lucky! Where do you live in the Midwest?
Person: I live in Florida. Oh, look at that, you do have $1 records, well, i'll come back sometime, i've got a grinder down the street...
Me: have a great day and come back anytime.

scott seward, Thursday, 28 September 2023 14:57 (eight months ago) link

kinda sums up the Trump era pretty good too.

scott seward, Thursday, 28 September 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link

What kind of grinder do you think he meant?

peace, man, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link

You know like Hoagie? The hook up app

Evan, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:39 (eight months ago) link

grinderrrrrrrr looking for meeeat

brimstead, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:49 (eight months ago) link

Scott, do you have an automatic response for people — ok, let’s be real, guys — who want to bang on about shitty music, or their record collection, or general random shit, and you don’t want to engage/encourage them but you don’t wanna come off like a dick either? This is the best thing (and the worst thing) about my situation, where I don’t actually staff my own store, so I don’t have to deal with the bores that seem to surround this hobby like flies on shit (but tbf I don’t get to have good conversations with interesting buyers either ,& potentially learn from them). I get this a few times a year at the record shows, and it’s what makes me think I don’t actually want to do this as a retirement gig: the energy I have to put into manufacturing responses for the eye-bleedingly dull stories of how someone has been looking for a record forever, or found one recently, or has 12 pristine copies, or do I know this song by Night Ranger, and I should listen to it because it’s great, but not as great as this other Night Ranger song, and I just want to, you know, DIE

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 7 October 2023 02:06 (eight months ago) link

“It’s really sad that your goth/industrial CD section is relegated to a single drawer UNDERNEATH one of the metal CD drawers. You have a fair amount of goth/industrial/circus music CDs languishing in the various Rock misc A-Z sections.”

brimstead, Saturday, 7 October 2023 03:12 (eight months ago) link

brim, in that situation I would likely be like, “oh, man, if you could help me out by picking out all the goth/industrial that are incorrectly filed, I’d really appreciate it.”

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 7 October 2023 03:22 (eight months ago) link

the really true realness is this: people won't bug you or tell you long boring stories if your store is busy and people are buying things. because then they will realize that they are in a store. its when nobody else is in there that you have a problem. because then they forget that they're in a store. and that's when you need to think about drugs.

i'd kinda had it with people after the pandemic but maria pulled me off the ledge. she does the bulk of it now. i just want to work. that's really where most of my frustration came from. it was just me. and it made it hard to do as much online work as i wanted to do. i used to bring my work home with me and i was pricing CDs at homw last week but i have a LOT of television to watch and i am olderish. i could get drunk and clean 45s and watch netflix late into the night in the olden days. but that was then. i'm happier now! sorta. or my version of "happy" anyway. filled with dread and confusion.

scott seward, Saturday, 7 October 2023 04:00 (eight months ago) link

It's weird. I've had my share of being trapped into convos but shoppers of a certain age will, say, Shazam the overhead music rather than ask an employee. I've had a couple people come up and be like, what is this? it's not coming up on Shazam. Like buddy go ahead and ask us in the first place! We are definitely down to gab about our stereo picks lol.

It's also a real thing now that many, many people genuinely don't understand why they shouldn't / aren't allowed to BLAST their phone speaker playing music or facetime or a phone call in a shop.

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Monday, 9 October 2023 22:37 (eight months ago) link

heard today for the 447348373th time:

"I could spend hours in here. I might be tempted to buy something." *leaves store*

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 16:01 (eight months ago) link

stop selling records. start charging admission.

Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 October 2023 16:03 (eight months ago) link

Apparently a bookstore in Porto, Portugal that was swamped by Harry Potter fans 'cause JK based something on it, started doing exactly that (charging admission).

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 October 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link

Halloween has to be the most grating holiday

calstars, Monday, 23 October 2023 17:19 (eight months ago) link

Apparently a bookstore in Porto, Portugal that was swamped by Harry Potter fans 'cause JK based something on it, started doing exactly that (charging admission).

― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, October 23, 2023 12:10 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well yeah also it's an incredible space. I don't think they'd get away with it if it looked more ordinary

Evan, Monday, 23 October 2023 17:34 (eight months ago) link

But yeah it's weird that people keep announcing their desire to spend time there and dangle the hypothetical of even purchasing something, my guess is that they find the idea of a record store magical but don't have the means to play records, kind of like how people might enter a gallery or a highly curated vintage (furniture or collectibles etc.) store / showroom to gawk but would never actually pull the trigger, no that would be reckless, but maybe... just maybe if they were feeling nuts you know just totally spontaneous or inspired after finding that perfect souvenir... something truly special...

Anyway I think that might be the mindset, and just like how some those other aforementioned businesses are more common to have people coming in to glance or go full tire-kicker only to leave with a "thanks for coming in!" regardless, they expect the record store is also the same kind of niche place for that song and dance.

Evan, Monday, 23 October 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link

Then there are musical instrument stores where people want to try multiple $4,000 guitars and leave with maybe some strings or picks or, more likely, nothing.

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 October 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link

Sell download cards?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:00 (eight months ago) link

i sell a lot of CDs.

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:04 (eight months ago) link

a lot of people still have CD players in their car. or they buy an old car that has one. so they come in looking. that works out well.

i just think the *threatening to buy* thing is funny because i can't imagine people doing that at other stores. you know? "wow, you guys sure do have a lot of great vitamins. i could spend hours in here." *leaves walgreens*

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:06 (eight months ago) link

Well yeah but again they put record stores in the same category as other hobby stores or showrooms where they get to be a tourist

Evan, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:23 (eight months ago) link

Sorry I've got major jet lag I've got to stop posting

Evan, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:25 (eight months ago) link

I went to a place today and saw a tears for fears tape “hurting” for $3.75. I went to buy it and the clerk said “$10.80.” There was another sticker on the back.

calstars, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link

you should have thrown it at them and screamed "you don't give me love!".

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link

"Well yeah but again they put record stores in the same category as other hobby stores or showrooms where they get to be a tourist"

i wrote that in the paper i read at ucla. that sometimes i felt like the shabbiest tour guide in the shabbiest museum in massachusetts.

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:00 (eight months ago) link

you can hear my dulcet tones right here. and greil introducing me.

https://archive.org/details/podcast_2011-emp-pop-conference-at-ucl_ebay-light-of-my-life-fire-o_1000093737988

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:02 (eight months ago) link

re:"i could spend hours in here", ime when people say stuff like that its to tell themselves a story more than anything else. lots of people like to imagine themselves as the kind of person who frequents record shops, independent bookstores, arthouse theaters, etc, but don’t ever actually do those things. But hearing themselves say things like “I could spend hours in this record store” or “my idea of heaven is a good bookstore” reassures them that they are the kind of quirky interesting person who they imagine says things like that

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 October 2023 19:04 (eight months ago) link

completely and totally and utterly OTM.

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:06 (eight months ago) link

Charge $10 to come browse ($40 if there's conversation expected), deduct from purchase on exit.

Jaq, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:16 (eight months ago) link

i'm not even gonna go into the guy who came in today and talked maria's ear off about possibly helping him sell the record he had made and wondering if we could be a sort of "fulfillment center" for it amd distribute it to all the local stores for him. because he has issues. i finally had to come out and say "oh maria are you going to have time to finish that tax thing..." and he finally left.

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:23 (eight months ago) link

"I could spend hours in here. I might be tempted to buy something."

I can't think of any response other than "what am I, your fucking hostage?"

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Monday, 23 October 2023 19:47 (eight months ago) link

i actually yelled as he was going out the door: "Oh, no, we wouldn't want that to happen!" right after he said that about being tempted.

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:54 (eight months ago) link

I went to a place today and saw a tears for fears tape “hurting” for $3.75. I went to buy it and the clerk said “$10.80.

I can't stand this indecision

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 01:39 (eight months ago) link

I was leaving the weed dispensary which is next to a winery (omg Scott imagine if you had to deal with wine people) and some old rich dude just wandered in and bumped into me all “oh hello what’s this place” and the security guard was like “it’s a cannibus dispensary, I need to see your I’d” and he was like “oh good to know” like the doors of the world are just made for entitled rich white dudes to go around opening and walking through to see what the deal is, we’re all just here for their entertainment.

brimstead, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 02:20 (eight months ago) link

i DO know how good i have it overall. every time i go to a restaurant i think: oh thank god i don't have to work in a restaurant i would be killing people left and right. sometimes i think the whole thing is so archaic. "so, what do you recommend?" "i recommend you order something fast because we are fucking slammed and you will never get any food unless you hurry the fuck up."

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 04:00 (eight months ago) link

Apparently a bookstore in Porto, Portugal that was swamped by Harry Potter fans 'cause JK based something on it, started doing exactly that (charging admission).

― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, October 23, 2023 12:10 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well yeah also it's an incredible space. I don't think they'd get away with it if it looked more ordinary

tbc this place was always a tourist trap, I went in a couple of times in the 00's and they had, like, computer manuals from the 90's lol. when I tried to order a book they didn't have they were borderline hostile.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 09:58 (eight months ago) link

I just meant the building is definitely pretty

Evan, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 11:38 (eight months ago) link

Oh yeah agreed, charging admission was always the logical endpoint because it works as a cool spot to look at but is useless as a bookshop.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 11:42 (eight months ago) link

In 2002 I went to the Chateau Frontenac hotel in Quebec City and I vaguely recall being charged some kind of admission just to look around. Maybe I am misremembering.

There is a tour that (understandably) costs money, and of course they wouldn't charge actual guests an admission fee. But I think that at the time, they were trying to discourage tourists from just going there to look around and hang out.

This is of course irrelevant to the record store discussion, but fancy hotels exist in a liminal zone in between public space and a private business.

I will confess that I have used some of the world's nicest hotel lobbies as, essentially, an extension of my living room, either with or without being a paying guest.

See also: "My Darling Nikki."

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 16:46 (eight months ago) link

sometimes i really wish i had a cell phone jammer. do you really have to look up EVERY record? definitely a time when i miss the olden days. whatever happened to chance? people will youtube or spotify 400 12-inch singles. babies.
have i made mistakes by buying blind my whole life? hell yeah. and i LEARN from my mistakes.

people here might do it too. i get it. i don't have to like it though!

i don't let people use their shittyass portables either. fuck off dj shadow.

and i haven't had a listening station since...i dunno...2010? too many broken needles made me say naaaah. i can't even imagine what it would be like now. ten times worse.

scott seward, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:14 (seven months ago) link

fwiw usually if I do this it's because I can't remember if I've already got it, or if that's the specific record I'm looking for by that band. this is what happens when you already have too many records and have listened to too much music

Colonel Poo, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link

that totally makes sense though. these are people who literally look up EvERY record that they look at in the store. it takes them forever.

scott seward, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:28 (seven months ago) link

this is why i'm so glad i'm not out front much anymore. the agony of watching people be laboriously slow. i had a japanese dealer look at every record in my store in 20 minutes once.

scott seward, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:29 (seven months ago) link


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