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So how important is coffee to you?

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You really ARE the ILE equivalent of the Metro free newspaper, ace.

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I tried it when I was a kid and thought it was the vilest substance on earth and vowed never to touch it again. Then. when I was about 17, i had a school project which involved staying up half the night to complete it, so I drank black coffeee to keep me awake. During my student days coffee became more or less essential. This was the way it stayed until a few weeks ago when I began to experience really extreme pains in my lower gut which the doctor diagnosed and irregular, involuntary spasms in my colon. I;'ve stayed off the cofee ever since. I thought that I would suffer really bad withdrawal symptoms but have actually found it quite bearable to avoid coffee. Now, when I would've had a cup of coffee I have a glass of water instead.

MarkH, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Coffee = gut pain and the shakes for me, so it is very important in the sense that it is vital I avoid it.

RickyT, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thought I had sworn it off 4-evah, became sadly addicted again about 6 weeks ago.

Nicole, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah the shakes are part of the FUN. Although I must beware of morning coffee, especially fellow ILE-ers who make extremely good morning coffee, as it starts me off on the road to COFFEE MADNESS. Leading to me feeling very sick therefore having to eat something leading to drinking more coffee leading to the TWITCHING AND THE hyperdrive sequence (commence, hit it Pinback)!

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Coffee is one of the joys of my existence, only it is difficult to get a nice flat white round here.

A friend of mine got a job in Starbucks in the US once, and she said that iced coffee over there was just coffee poured over ice. Is that true? Here it involves ice cream and other stuff

Menelaus Darcy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes that's true. When you involve ice cream and stuff it becomes a milk shake.

Samantha, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Iced coffee American style: crushed ice, coffee, milk. Maybe sugar.

Iced coffee everywhere else is a frappe: cream, crushed ice, sugar, coffee.

Ice cream in coffee is a milkshake, only if you BLEND it.

suzy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I would suck the ass of a bleeding camel if i knew it had coffee in it.

Geoff, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm drinking coffee right now. my day off so far has been unproductive. I got up at 2 and had a horrible greasy lunch where my friend works. I dont have the car today cos my brother took it so I'm stranded. I was going to get the bus to college but I'm lazy. Its been a hectic week and I'm now rambling on.......

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Geoff, that's officially the most disgusting thing I ever heard.

I drink at least one cup of coffee a day. But I'm not addicted to it, like I can go for like 3 months without coffee, and then take it up again like that. I do that all the time. I apparently have some sort of caffiene immunity in my blood from my mom drinking like 5 pots a day while she was pregnant with me.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

One "cup"? Surely one "pot" is more ILE standards. THIS REMINDS ME I was suposed to nick someones coffee machine but I have not done so yet maybe I should remedy this.

(At this point, Sarah remembers she does not even have a kettle)...

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You can get immunities like that?

That explains alot.

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Never had the need to live off of it or anything. Very tasty, though, and good in various combinations. My preferred morning wake-up liquid is orange juice.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I make my own orange juice every morning with one of those funny machines. It's also my excercise for the day.

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have three coffeemakers, ALL of them have broken carafes. It sucks. When they weren't broken I made good cappucino.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

DECAF!

I like coffee because it's the water of flavored beverages. A judicious amount of cream & sugar, and it's like drinking sweet warmth (which, right now, is fantastic).

Caffeine & me had a nasty break-up about 2 or 3 years ago. We still hook up every so often, but it's always a quickie, and nothing too serious. We have an understanding. Back in college, though, I was all about COKE - I constructed a tower wall of cans from the cases (cases!) of soda I downed on a daily basis. Now, my stomach winces every time I think of eating ... well, anything. But the drug used to LOVE me, oh yeah.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

only drink it if there's *nothing* else as it is satan's brew. and when i do drink it i go doubly mad as i have to put loads of sugar in to take away the taste. caffiene and sugar frenzy = DUD.

katie, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yayyyy - i grossed ally out...time for another camel.

Geoff, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Coffee is horrible. I never drink it. I've never had more than 3 cups in my entire life...smells great, tastes foul.

james, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't like coffee. I have long since sold my soul to The Coca-Cola Corporation of America. It serves all my caffeinous needs.

Tom, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Coffee is laxative.

Helen Fordsdale, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Seattle is home to excellent coffee... there's about 5 coffeehouses for every 1 fast food chain restaurant here. I'm not kidding.

Naturally, I got hooked on the sauce (my form: white chocolate mocha) for a while, but I quit right around the WTC tragedy. There was no need to make myself more tense, when I was already too tense.

I do think the smell of coffee is far, far better than the taste, though.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(oh christ , haven't we been thu this already!)

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like the kind that tastes more than hot sweet light stuff than dark bitter actual COFFEE. And I hate hate hate Turkish coffee. I couldn't even gulp down a tiny cup to get my fortune read from it.

Maria, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Was up to about 4 XL's and a bottle of Jolt in high school, now Im down to about 2 XL Tim Hortons a day or homebrewed equivalent.

Lived ontop of a coffee shop for awhile and the smell in the morning of four pots brewing at once was amazing.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
What was this lost news story about?

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 23 May 2003 01:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

coffee

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 23 May 2003 02:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

four years pass...

I feel like a douche ordering breves and even more of a couche since no one here knows what they are or how to make them. But they are so yum that I don't mind my true doucheness shining through.

Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

hoochie coochie

carne asada, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

fat

Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

oh wow this is the 3rd thread this week where i've written what i wrote 6 years ago and been shocked! now i LOVE turkish coffee and real coffee without lots of syrups and crap in it!

Maria, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i like this essay. bring on the 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

tipsy mothra, Friday, 23 November 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

that is good. she never quite says it, but i like the idea of coffee as being partially responsible for the enlightenment.

negotiable, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

It is difficult, at best, to get a good cup of coffee in San Francisco. Why this is, I have no idea.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Hypercoffee

So far, the Clover is still something of a cult object, with just over 200 machines scattered around the world. But it might soon become a common sight: Starbucks has just bought two.

Designed by three Stanford graduates, it lets the user program every feature of the brewing process, including temperature, water dose and extraction time. (It even has an Ethernet connection that can feed a complete record of its configurations to a Web database.) Not only is each cup brewed to order, but the way each cup is brewed can be tailored to a particular bean — light or dark roast, acidic or sweet, and so on.

The Clover works something like an inverted French press: coffee grounds go into a brew chamber, hot water shoots in and a powerful piston slowly lifts and plunges a filter, forcing the coffee out through a nozzle in the front. The final step, when a cake of spent grounds rises majestically to the top, is so titillating to coffee fanatics that one of them posted a clip of it on YouTube.

“There is some gee-whizness to it,” said Doug Zell, a founder of Intelligentsia. “But hopefully the focus goes back to the cup of coffee.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

In the grand tradition of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_room_coffee_pot";>Trojan Room coffee pot</a>.

In the meantime, coffee? Yes please!

j.lu, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

this shit is not good for you

and what, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

but it's the future! of shit that's not good for you

rrrobyn, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

(It even has an Ethernet connection that can feed a complete record of its configurations to a Web database.)

Oh ffs.

stevienixed, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

this shit is not good for you

They can take my coffee away...when they pry my cold dead fingers off the cup.

j.lu, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahaha the last sentence on the first para made me think somehow the last automatic step the machine did was upload a video of itself to Youtube.

Abbott, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.discostyle.com/discochart/191-200/192b.jpg

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.discostyle.com/discochart/191-200/192.jpg

^^^^^^great album

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, man, I would pay nearly anything for a coffeemaker that was constantly uploading pictures of itself to its MySpace page and stuff

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"got wasteed with the toaster last nite, LOL, i was still makin irish coffee in the morning . man im so bord now, why is the water hear so HARD"

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

BREWMACHINE'S BLOG

MADE COFFEE

Category: Dining
Current mood: Silly

I made the coffee. I made it. I shot the water into it. Now it is coffee. This was 121º F. It is coffee now. I made the coffee. See my Flicker account.

<link to video>

Abbott, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

How do I shot water

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, I'm DESPERATE. I want a proper cappuccino/caffe latte maker. So I need a cappuccino machine, right? Anyone have any ideas on which one to get? I don't want one which uses Nespresso (fuck that). Pads are alright but a bonus, not the main thing.

*sigh*

stevienixed, Thursday, 13 March 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I started reading Travis Baldree’s _Legends & Lattes_ this week, an urban fantasy about a half-orc who has had her fill of adverturin’ and sets up a coffee shop in a town that has never encountered coffee before.

It’s not as Discworld-y as I’d like, but it’s a good start.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 10 May 2024 07:11 (one month ago) link

that’s a top-notch premise

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 May 2024 10:04 (one month ago) link

At work I do a double espresso inside a flat white. I have three of those in the morning and usually 2 in the afternoon. No official cutoff but rarely later than 4. And i wonder why I have trouble sleeping. :/

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 10:24 (one month ago) link

Recently considered buying decaf for after dinner coffee but haven't. If I'm eating out I almost always get coffee afterwards.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 10:24 (one month ago) link

Whoa.. So you have.. 10 espresso shots per day?

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 10:48 (one month ago) link

Sometimes? That sounds bad when you put it that way and considering my ADHD meds are a stimulant I should prob be more careful. I've on coffee 2 so expresso shot 4. Will stop here today.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 10:57 (one month ago) link

I'm on coffee no 2, I meant.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 10:57 (one month ago) link

Not judging! Whatever works

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 11:01 (one month ago) link

I didn't think you were; I'd just never actually considered just how much I was ingesting! That much can't be good no matter how you slice it.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 11:09 (one month ago) link

If it feels good do it imo though if you have trouble sleeping sometimes yeah maybe dial it back idk.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 11:31 (one month ago) link

That’s probably in the range of caffeine that’s considered unhealthy, esp if you’re also taking a stimulant. Certainly could be interfering with sleep, increasing anxiety and even worsening your adhd symptoms.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:07 (one month ago) link

._.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:09 (one month ago) link

Never thought about it making ADHD worse as it usually helps with that for me but I also have GAD so yes. All good points. I will think about this some more this weekend. Maybe the decaf isn't a bad idea.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:12 (one month ago) link

I've quit again.

I think I've narrowed down the heartburn that seemed to come out of nowhere to the high acid light roast french press coffee I started drinking during the pandemic. I miss it a little, the ritual and the flavor, but green tea is working for me right now and heartburn sucks.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:18 (one month ago) link

coffee is challenging for me

it's basically the only drug i take except for my prescriptions. i got high as fuck last night off some acetaminophen they prescribed me the last time i had my bits cut up. not, just, for the lulz... the pain from my accidentally giving myself a lip piercing monday has made it pretty hard for me to get through this week. i tend to avoid even OTC meds... in this case i got high and went on the sort of depressive spiral that leads my friends to start telling me they're worried about me

(if you're worried about me, sorry for worrying you, i'm going to be ok, i promise)

anyway the challenge with coffee is that i'm in kind of a state of monty burns homeostasis... the 20 pills a day are enough to let me almost function. caffeine... sometimes it gives me the energy to full-on function. sometimes downing my adderall with a cold brew sends me into a full-on panic attack. panic attacks aren't fun, but if i don't run the risk, i never get anything done at all. i kinda have gotten used to it. anyway. most days it's a large cold brew in the am and a mountain dew at lunch. i should probably change the mountain dew, those things are fucking disgusting. i only drank them because i was addicted to diet major melon, which they fucking stopped making.

i don't always sleep great but mostly that's the nightmares, which have nothing to do with my caffeine intake. (seriously, i'm going to be ok, i just gotta deal with some bullshit sometimes)

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:19 (one month ago) link

fwiw enbb i find your situation re: caffeine kind of relatable :)

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:19 (one month ago) link

you got high af off acetaminophen (tylenol)?

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:22 (one month ago) link

x-post - I should prob cop to also drinking between .5l and 2l of diet coke every day on top of the coffee.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:35 (one month ago) link

But I'm just normal like this! I'm not running around all speedy all the time. If I cut down am I just not going to be able to function? I don't know who I am if I'm not overly caffeinated at all times.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:36 (one month ago) link

cool it turbo tax

calstars, Friday, 10 May 2024 13:50 (one month ago) link

lol

I just made an americano. I will stop there and at least it's not espresso?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 14:17 (one month ago) link

Also depends on what you call a double. If it's just pressing the button twice, it's going to be more like a lungo and you're actually having five coffees per day, not ten.

You can calculate your true caffeine daily intake by weighing the amount of ground coffee you use per cup, divide by a hundred, and multiply by number of cups.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:03 (one month ago) link

xpost yes it is! an Americano is an espresso with water added! but there's nothing particularly special about espresso vs pourover or whatever i don't think, in terms of caffeine intake

I like Nabozo's totally unit-less freeform maths

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:09 (one month ago) link

lol duh of course it is. This machine is some crappy thing where you push buttons so I don't actually see what's happening. I see what you mean about the double and wondered but, again, it's behind the scenes. There's an option for single espresso and one for double but I have no idea what that actually means. WFH and have had 2 coffees. Just normal ones. Because I know you're all wondering.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:38 (one month ago) link

I've also been drinking caffeine free diet coke. I'm not happy about it but I'm doing it.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:39 (one month ago) link

xp: I suggest using either the keel, troy pond, pood, corgee, or cullingey.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 11:16 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

ha, I really enjoyed that, thank you

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:57 (two weeks ago) link

Fresh diner coffee will always have a place in my heart. I also have always liked Chock Full o’ Nuts, and I have nice memories of the first jet lagged, frothy cup of Nescafé with sugar.

I like the simplicity of my one cup pour over system though.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

i grew up on instant though i am not really nostalgic for it tbh but i do enjoy diner coffee

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:30 (two weeks ago) link

I believe it was in orbit who said that bad coffee is really its own beverage category: “hot brown liquid,” and sometimes that is all you need ( or want)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

If you add chickory to bad coffee it becomes a little better. If I ran a diner I would do this

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:30 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry I meant cinnamon

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:31 (two weeks ago) link

I also grew up on instant, plus the same supermarket brands the writer mentions, but it's difficult to imagine regressing back to that stuff as one's daily intake. Like, really difficult. Diner coffee is fine if fresh (though I'm seldom in diners anymore).

Josefa, Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:24 (two weeks ago) link

Baristas who think“Room for milk” is like a centimeter of space at the top just kill me

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:28 (two weeks ago) link

Chock full has vanished here as of the pandemic. Was my go-to for cold brew partly bcuz i remember my parents, when it became available in Cali in the late 1970s, acting as it was holy grail for coffee. They otherwise brewed Yuban. I just got a 3# tin of Kirkland ground for my next cold brews. . .

gneiss, gneiss, very gneiss (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:49 (two weeks ago) link

Chock full of deez nutz

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:50 (two weeks ago) link

I believe it was in orbit who said that bad coffee is really its own beverage category: “hot brown liquid,” and sometimes that is all you need ( or want)
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie)

Did ***I*** say that?? How odd. Maybe! There's definitely good bad coffee and bad good coffee.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:15 (two weeks ago) link

instant coffee tastes best out of a styrofoam cup walking on a dilapidated pier on a cloudy day

brimstead, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:26 (two weeks ago) link

Great piece.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:41 (two weeks ago) link

The best coffee is any that’s accompanied by a smoke

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:58 (two weeks ago) link

xps I usually come across Chock Full at places like Costco and BJ's rather than the grocery store, and yes, I cannot see the name without thinking of Dre or this NewsRadio moment for that matter.

birdistheword, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:59 (two weeks ago) link

I don't love that specific color combination but I have nothing against a brightly colored kettle in theory.

default damager (lukas), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 23:58 (two weeks ago) link

I like it! definitely know some people who could fit it into their kitchen style

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 00:23 (two weeks ago) link

isn't that more for the electric kettle thread?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 00:24 (two weeks ago) link

just got around to checking out the piece upthread, great read, thanks

sknybrg, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 01:20 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, great piece, quincie.

Reminds me of the big Chock Full O Nuts painted sign that was in New York, not sure if it's still there or when

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Chock_fullof_nuts.jpg?20120831120154

Horn & Hardart, the venerable automat brand that featured in so many 1930s-1960s movies about life in New York City is testing the market for bringing back the automat and starting with branded coffee.

https://hornandhardart.com/blogs/blog/reviving-horn-hardart-why-automat-coffee

Joan Crawford drinking coffee at an automat in Sadie McKee (1943)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FMv2Oqko5Q

felicity, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 07:30 (two weeks ago) link

I’d welcome the return of the automat! Not sure anyone under the age of 50 knows what it is tho

calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 11:51 (two weeks ago) link

I really liked that article, but though I don't see eye-to-eye with the author about coffee. When I talk to people about coffee, the first thing I usually ask is if they drink it black. If they put sweetener and/or whatever type of milk, then I know we're looking for a slightly different experience.

I will say that I've always repped for diner coffee and I agree with the author that I have far more memorable positive experiences drinking improvised whatever-is-around coffee than high-priced hipster stuff, which when I travel almost always tends to be afternoon coffee and therefore a bad idea (for me). I always enjoy the first morning cup more than the lunchtime cup if I'm honest. I don't know why I still insist on having that second cup. Maybe it's addiction.

beard papa, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 19:44 (two weeks ago) link


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