the insider was a serious letdown. hard for a movie to be an anticlimax from the credits all the way through, but it managed somehow. the scene with pacino on a BEACH shouting down the PHONE may have merit if viewed as self parody from all involved, but other than that it's just a fat russell crowe.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 October 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
The Insider's his best movie despite Mann's ceding the movie to Pacino in the last third.
― Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 October 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
no
― history mayne, Sunday, 4 October 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
it's miami vice fuiud
or heat or public enemies or manhunter fuiud
I can shout like Al Pacino if need be.
― Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 October 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
heat is on tv atm
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
insider rules. his best.
― gore vitalic (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 October 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Heat on TV about 100 hours a week lately.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
A Hollywood guy I know told me how Heat, after being lukewarm at the box office, is a favorite of all the studio guys in their 20s/30s who saw it in their formative years. I was asking him why it was on TV all the time and Blue Thunder never is.
― Squash weather (Eazy), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
5 votes for manhunter fuckin seriously guys
― ice cr?m, Monday, 5 October 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link
0 votes for Thief is worse.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
manhunter is clearly a TRANSCENDENT FUCKING AWESOME MOVIE THE BEST ONE HE EVER MADE then the insider then miamivice heat and collateral - and obvs miami vice the tv show shouldve be included here cause want to talk abt some art work lets talk abt that
theif is cool but its somewhat formative mann trying to mix gritty realistic 70s vibe w/sweet high tension michael mann shit - the scene w/jim belushi lookin over the billboard ready to snipe is super bomb tho
― ice cr?m, Monday, 5 October 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
u should make a movie called stanhunter
― gore vitalic (s1ocki), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link
the scene w/jim belushi lookin over the billboard ready to snipe is super bomb tho
For pure Chicago location thrills, there's that early scene with sunrise on the lakefront, and then at the end he blows up the Green Mill. Rock.
Also, Jimmy Caan.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
manhunter sucks guys. red dragon is much better! rattner! rattner! rattner!
*fake challops*
― lindsey lohanski (latebloomer), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link
He just tends to inspire the kind of acting that bugs the shit out of me.
axtually i kinda agree, but i'm not sure how to put into words.
― lindsey lohanski (latebloomer), Monday, 5 October 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
an example i mean, not the fact that i kinda agree
Ali was just a disaster. Smith had no fucking idea who his character was and just settled for a bizarrely muted impression, and the narrative was painfully boring.
All Mann's other films are must see though.
Heat would easily be his best movie, and perhaps one of the greatest films ever, if it weren't for the awful Pacino performance. But when his character isn't on screen, the movie is fantastic. Strangely enough, Pacino was actually good in The Insider.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 5 October 2009 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
The opening sure works, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STDo6Z5YJa4
― Squash weather (Eazy), Monday, 5 October 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i think being a true stann means looking past his depiction of ali as a person and just marveling at how the movie looks - anyway i think it's obv that he thought that getting into who ali really was would distract from he really wanted the film to be - now obv i totally understand how that can turn people off but i really loved it
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link
damn
http://www.etsy.com/shop/FatEyes?section_id=6557913
― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
poll
― goole, Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link
lol mario van peebles as malcolm x - not sure if thats more or less absurd than smith as ali - btw my dad has a treasured pic of himself w/cassius clay in that v gym while he was training for the liston fight
xp to ali open youtube
― SMH (ice cr?m), Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont remember what i voted for but i hope it was mohicans cuz that shit owwwwns
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
william peterson is worst dude btw
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
u suck
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
watch manhunter and to live and die in l.a. back to back and tell me he isnt the most unlikeable creepy manchild to ever... exist
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
it works more in to live and die in l.a. because he's supposed to be a total creep.
― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link
the characters in both movies are supposed to be totally unlikeable!!!
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link
also how can u hate a guy who starred in 2 of the best noir movies of the 80s AND the greatest american procedural of the 2000s
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i know i know, i'm just saying he is unpleasant to watch! even if that is the point
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i have never watched csi tbqh
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
mannhunter=best
― SMH (ice cr?m), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
marg helgenberger ftw
― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
csi is great
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
he's not meant to be unlikeable in manhunter! he's just supposed to have.. defects. i love him in that film. LOVE him. tell me he's not brilliant in that scene in the supermarket. sensitive too!
― piscesx, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
in terms of cop show aesthetics csi is to the 00s what miami vice was to the 80s... otherwise the shows arent really at all the same
double tam making want to revist all the mann movies - havent seen mohicans or insider in so long - nice to see you can sb ppl for shit they sd in 2007 tho
generally agree w/ the poll results but i havent seen ali
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i appreciate william petersen a lot more now than i did then... he's amazing in to live and die in LA... i think what creeped me out were the scenes where he was supposed to be like, sexy... he was all rubbing his torso and shit... kinda weird
def need to revisit the insider
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd rank Thief above ali and the keep, though it's pretty crude compared to his later stuff
the keep is so weird, havent seen it in forevs but i have to respect any movie that tries to make scott glenn an action hero
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link
write-in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6joglwxWuo
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link
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― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link
seeing william peterson's dick was kinda the most unexpected aspect of to live and die in l.a. tbqf.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link
'manhunter' is the one i like the least although my memory is too weak to really articulate much - i remember it felt blocky and i guess ponderous - never really crystalized for me i guess.
the unheralded mann that id rep for is 'robbery homicide divsion' which probably doesnt count but is an interesting 'transition' + just a p enjoyable cop show.
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i dug robbery homicide division - it didnt last long but it had some cool crappy-looking DV photography and tom sizemore and the jowly black guy - unforch i got into the Wire a few months after it ended and i could never look at it the same again
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
'manhunter' is kinda dated and the basic premise of this preternaturally gifted detective chasing a serial killer is a little cheesy, but it works for the most part for me because of the acting and the fact that it's fairly creepy. i like the scenes near the beginning w/peterson going through the house, and we never see the bodies nor the killings, just the crime scene. pretty effective. stephen lang in full-on simpering douchebag mode before he started to age into a ripped-up middle age tough guy.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
also: stephen lang etc
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link
manhunter has an ill soundtrack, too
― max, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i think Manhunter must've been shot on a shitty film stock or something (this was a problem for a lot of 80s movies) because something about the look of it always left me wanting
still like Silence more tbh
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link