White trick-or-treaters in blackface: C/D?

channel hopping last night, saw katy brand on itv2 in blackface doing a rihanna impression. she was shit.

Best TV show name of all time, no joking: SABADO GIGANTE. I mean, it just lays it all on the line, right there.

This thread is about white trick-or-treaters going in blackface to dress like someone Black, right? What does ILX feel about someone dressing up in blackface, tho, to dress up like Al Jolson?

mordyfied

what if the white guy dressed up as a black guy dressing up like al jolson dressing up like a black guy?

I think this Halloween I'm going to do blackface over whiteface over blackface, and when people ask me what the hell I am, I will say "internet irony"

"What's black and white and re(a)d all over?"

What does ILX feel about someone dressing up in blackface, tho, to dress up like Al Jolson?

Its interesting you ask that question because the media everywhere are in a stink about the stupid skit here in aus with the blackface jacksons thing.

And yet we have a jewish performer who's been doing an Al Jolson blackface routine in the samecountry for years to much approval and good audiences and never has he had any protests.

What give? I dont know.

I think this Halloween I'm going to do blackface over whiteface over blackface, and when people ask me what the hell I am, I will say "internet irony"

I rofld

And yet we have a jewish performer who's been doing an Al Jolson blackface routine in the samecountry for years to much approval and good audiences and never has he had any protests.

Al Jolson was jewish.

I guess the question is, is it ok to do a Jolson routine these days?

Was watching an ABC panel dicsussion show just earlier, and one of the panellist said something like "people are overreacting to this - we should be allowed to laugh at ourselves". Seeminly blind to the fact that a bunch of white and indian australian guys in blackface can hardly be "laughing at themselves" can they.

I guess the question is, is it ok to do a Jolson routine these days?

i think the answer has been pretty unanimously "no"

But then how do you explain the thousands of Jolson-style performers you see everywhere these days?

I say "Jabbawockeez, CIO"

http://www.truthordarepics.com/sexstoryarchive/covered/images/covered5.jpg

Um.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s236/mezxspectrum/ThatsRacist.gif

i cant see it.

You're better off.

I little bit of innocent mud play never hurt anyone.

http://deadspin.com/5394350/the-situation-where-a-dallas-cowboys-cheerleader-appeared-in-blackface-for-halloween-will-probably-not-end-well

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2009/10/500x_custom_1257023169053_dc_cheerleader4.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2009/10/500x_custom_1257023201903_dc_cheerleader8.jpg

I don't know, I instantly recognized that as a Li'l Wayne costume and it ergo doesn't seem to be as big of a deal to me.

But is it really necessary? Pretty sure that would be instantly recognizable as Lil Wayne minus the blackface.

Did that big guy have to carry the other guy around like that all night?

I saw someone blackfaced and had no fucking idea what they were going for, although most of my group's awkward silent seething rage went towards the 'Barry's Backstreet Abortions' doctor with a bloody doll dangling over her shoulder. Cunt.

I guy in blackface came up to me last night and asked for crack and I had to be restrained.

Restraint is overrated. Should've went ham on the motherfucker.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2009/10/500x_custom_1257023192520_dc_cheerleader7.jpg

This one is the most mind-blowing bcz of the also-facepaint maraichis.

imo it's kind of awesome that it's a chick going as lil wayne

Not the blackface, don't get me wrong, but the half-assed drag aspect of it. Like she didn't even try to hide her tits but it's still obviously 'hey I'm lil wayne!"

saw two dudes in blackface as serena and venus, wasn't able to get a decent pic tho : /

http://img.skitch.com/20091101-1k2yby5ihqsu8c99fn75g2ajjb.jpg

I guy in blackface came up to me last night and asked for crack and I had to be restrained.

― kate78, Sunday, November 1, 2009 9:51 AM (3 hours ago)

harm would have been inflicted if it were i

I don't know, I instantly recognized that as a Li'l Wayne costume and it ergo doesn't seem to be as big of a deal to me.

― (oh PORRIDGE) (HI DERE), Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, ditto, for some reason

really?

Well, if all it takes to make blackface acceptable is for it to be a recognisable person I hope you enjoy the flood of Obama blackface pictures that are doubtless coming over the next few days.

Yeah um, I'm confused now. Harry Connck Jr caused a SHITSTORM here by declaring the guys doing that skit mentioned above on that shitty TV show was offensive and it really riled people up. The thing was, people defending it said "but they were playing the JACKSONS, how else were they meant to dress?!?". And if some of you are saying now its ok for this person as lil Wayne, well... I'm confused, because that makes what Connick objected to OK on that basis, as well.

(regardless of the fact it was just a lame skit)

NB I should point out I'm not now nor was then defending that or any other blackface skit, simply because I'm well aware of the implications. Unfortunately, a lot of Australians are completely unaware of the history. COmpletely, 100% no idea.

glad to help clear this up for you i obtain much semillon blackface not OK

Look I agree with you, but apparently Dan and gbx dont, and I gotta tell you that is suprising me.

Wait sorry no, I'm not implying what Dan said = "it is ok" generally, but you get my point.

abbott kinda sums up my feelings better, really.

ey white folks- don't go to hallowe'en as black folks. ok?

Trayce I am so sorry of all people to sonn Australia it was Harry Chronics Jr.

http://asg.homelinux.org/albums/dean/Dean_ah.sized.jpg

To be unambiguous, here is my stance (and I think I also said this upthread in the original discussion):

If you have darkened your skin to look like a realistic portrayal of someone of another ethnicity, I do not have a problem with that.

If you have darkened your skin to look like this:

http://www.subvulture.com/archive/white_xmas_al_jolson.jpg

I have a MASSIVE problem with that. THIS is blackface. THIS is what I find offensive.

I understand why people are super-sensitive about any situation where people's skin is darkened because of the whole history of minstrel shows but I really do believe that equating what the cheerleader did, particularly since SHE LOOKED LIKE LIL WAYNE (with tits, lol) with what Al Jolson did is beyond sketchy, because what does making that equivalency say about how you're viewing Lil Wayne?

I mean, has anyone actually SEEN the pictures of the Michael Jackson group in Australia that Harry Connick Jr objected to? They looked like this:

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/images/hey_hey_blackface_400.jpg

People are taking shit like THAT and equating it with what Tyra Banks did on America's Next Top Model with pasty Irish-looking model Nicole, who normally looks like this:

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20090812/300.nicole.antm.cycle13.081209.jpg

... but had a photoshoot where she was styled to look like this:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/10/31/alg_next_top_model.jpg

In what universe is the above picture a direct equivalent to this:

http://www.subvulture.com/archive/white_xmas_al_jolson.jpg
http://www.subvulture.com/archive/white_xmas_al_jolson.jpg
http://www.subvulture.com/archive/white_xmas_al_jolson.jpg
http://www.subvulture.com/archive/white_xmas_al_jolson.jpg
http://www.subvulture.com/archive/white_xmas_al_jolson.jpg

I mean seriously, COME THE FUCK ON.

So, in summation:

Looks like a recognizable human being = ok with me
Looks like Al Jolson = fuck you for an eternity you fucking racist cumbubble

um guys.. somebody wore a KKK outfit in our office costume contest thing on friday!

perhaps it should be noted that the dude is part black but it still managed to be a pretty O_o situation.

ha of course that's going to be a o_O situation, that is a wholly inappropriate thing to do at work and a super risky move

So, in summation:

Looks like a recognizable human being = ok with me
― (oh PORRIDGE) (HI DERE), Monday, 2 November 2009 15:16 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

What if its supposed to look like a recognisable human being, but I have no idea who that person looks like (lil wayne) or it looks nothing like that person (ronaldinho bottleopener)?

yeah, it didn't go over too well. he's a goofy guy and it just didn’t even seem like he thought it would be a big deal. xp