are you now, or have you ever been, A Librarian?

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weren't the tuggers on librarian?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I work at a big library (I'm not a librarian, though--I won't front); one of the best things about the job is watching the parade of eccentrics who pass by and deciding which one I'm going to end up as.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i had an interview at my uni library last week. cheeky buggers said they'd get back to me within the week and they haven't! i reckon i'm a shoo in though.

gem (trisk), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I buy stuff - books and films and CDs. I like it quite a bit, and there are no crazies here. I'm much relieved to find that, because the last two libraries were full of lunatics.

I could tell you a few stories about bad, bad managers in big libraries. Like the dept. head who chewed out my boss for 'spending too much money on her kitchen floor tiles' - this was supposed to be indicative of her lack of fiscal prudence.

Once people get out of big academic libraries, they tell a lot of horror stories about the politics therein. In one case, the place was violating every employment law on the books.

We have a lot of artists, writers and musicians working here.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Blimey! My library was busy today, I was trying to listen to big and rich but I kept having to hlep people out!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

is there a lot of sexing in the dumbwaiters?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never been sure, but what is a dumbwaiter?

jel -- (jel), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to join Oops and Adam's independent library, please.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

(Librarianism actually makes a lot of sense for me. The parts of my job now that I enjoy the most are the fact-checking/research, and I'd get to do that without all of the annoying deadlines and publishing constraints!)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

dumbwaiters are the little elevators that help you move your carts of reshelves from floor to floor.

i was a part-time library assistant in university at the biology-forestry library. reshelving the bound periodicals (enormous half-year volumes of 'nature' etc) was okay, but the regular books were awful because the whole library only used a couple tens-digits of the dewey and there were lots of unpleasant digits to the right of the decimal...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I just started working on my masters to be an Archivist. Hurrah! I'll see you lot in two years, then.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Oops and Adam I would like to join your library too. I can go back to being Archive girl, who spent most of my time downstairs reading weird Masonic charts and Latin texts and flirting with Cataloguing boy.
Michael are you at Ann Arbor? My friend just starting Archiving MA there.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Jocelyn - I am at Simmons in Boston.

I figure going into archives is one of the most practical paths a person obsessed with collecting/organizing/researching music can take. If I ever got to work for a Music Archive, I'd be on cloud 9.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i miss tracking down obscure documents

kephm, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

My library has dumbwaiters right next to the pneumatic tubes, which are next to the analog intercoms; mmm....lo-fi networking infrastructure......

Stephen X (Stephen X), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

wow--sounds like Brazil

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

If we only had those tiny monitors with the gy-normous plastic screen enlargers. Instead we just have the tiny monitors.

Don't call me "Buttle"....

Stephen X (Stephen X), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I just wanted to add to this thread that I once had my photo taken for the paper at story hour when I was 4 years old sitting on a librarians lap, and I now work with that same librarian.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I am a SENIOR INFORMATION ASSISTANT. Which means you're like a library assistant, but you get an extra 20p an hour and an extra bucketload of stress. Don't do it, kids. Sell ice-creams instead.

Then again, the free internet access is nice.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link

That is kind of freaky Elisabeth!

I am a librarian-in-waiting. I don't know if I'll be one properly even when I can though. As long as I can leave THIS job, that's the main thing.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Does a librarian-in-waiting get to carry a large fan to whisper behind, and wear a big frock?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

If a certain recently-married ILXor is anything to go by, being an archivist means the fast track to wealth and power! I am very envious of her.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

hmm, being in the right place at the right time has meant I've done very well for myself so far, but there's not much of the ladder left to climb, at least salary wise! (I hope that doesn't sound conceited)

Apparently I drunkenly belittled librarians to a librarian who has posted on this thread when I was in New York, for which I apologise. I had drunkenly worked myself into a state about the fact that ordinary members of the public didn't understand what archives where, which meant that my addled brain thought I was pitting libraries against archives.

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I am currently reading a guide to classification which hilariously employs an extended anecdote about Harrison Ford's carpentry career and how he was good at it because he kept his tools in separate bags or something. Diddlydee, a librarian's life for me...

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, someone from the Undergrad Library just breathlessly showed up here needing to pick up an urgent patron request. I had seen the book on the desk earlier, I had no idea Hunter S. Thompson books were that U & K for academic classes.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

My parents were Librarians too.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh god, that's nothing, jocelyn. One woman here teaches a course on 'exploring the goddess', and she uses all of this new age crap in her class. A film teacher wants every vampire movie in existence(I think he is just too cheap to buy this stuff for himself). Then there are the rich private.edu ph.d.'s who assume that all of their students are illiterate and who therefore use videotapes to teach Plato etc.

logged out, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a professional librarian. I've got an MSc in Information and Library Studies. Not quite persuaded myself to complete the chartership process though.
What you actually do day to day as a librarian really depends on the kind of library you work in and the role you've got.
I've worked in a few different kinds of library. I've worked behind the service desk in various public libraries, and also with the management team that ran those public libraries. I did a stint working in a newspaper library. My first proper professional post was as a school librarian and now I work in the systems team of a large university library.
I suppose it's always been interesting.
I found that if you were at a main branch, working behind a service desk was so busy that it was both very stressful and a quick working day. At a small branch, it was slower paced, but you generally had a more involved role and you weren't doing the same thing for the whole day.
Working with the management team gave you a different perspective on the process, very political - driven by a desperate search for funding and a need to justify the existence of the library service as a whole.
The newspaper library was both fascinating and incredibly dull. You'd spend the morning archiving the quark files of the paper into free text files to go in a database, which was so boring (though you did end up knowing a tremendous amount about current affairs). Then as the paper geared up in the afternoon and early evening you could be searching for information on anything at all and there would be time pressure - really quite a lot of fun.
Being a school librarian was a rapid learning experience for me and it took me about six months to really understand what I was doing. After that it became about finding things to do to keep it interesting for me because once the basics were in place the library practically ran itself (especially with the tiny budget I had). So I ended up inventing information skills courses and training student library assistants and I also became the unofficial school internet guy. The best and worst bit of the job was dealing with the kids. I really had a positive impact on some lives, I made some good friends, and I also had to deal with people that I would have done anything to avoid.
In my current job I finally got to tackle the things I specialized in with my library degree, techy stuff, databases, web design, programming, software evaluation, server admin. That kind of thing.
The thing with a big university library is the politics and people get so caught up in this artificial soap opera they create around status and money within the organisation. Thankfully most of the time I can just get on with my job and ignore it.
This has turned kinda long hasn't it?
Anyway, yes, I am a Librarian.

Greig (treefell), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

This is looking attractive to me all of a sudden. Does it matter where you go to school to get your MLS? My nearby options are Pratt or Queens College. Or, I could go home and live with mom and commute to Maryland. For those of you who did the program, how long did it take you?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, someone from the Undergrad Library just breathlessly showed up here needing to pick up an urgent patron request. I had seen the book on the desk earlier, I had no idea Hunter S. Thompson books were that U & K for academic classes.

My university library had about 30 copies of Jurassic Park, and about 10 copies each of most of Anne Rice's novels. That's damn academic.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link


Anything and everything can have academic value (I once spent an entire summer processing Nazi pamphlets), but that is way too many copies of Jurassic Park, unless you have 80,000 people at your university, and there is a whole course devoted to Jurassic Park.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't actually count them, but they filled most of a shelf; by our normal space-filling estimates, it was about 30. I think the university had about 20,000 people all together.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i should like to be librarian but it sounds like too much work to get there.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Does it matter where you go to school to get your MLS?

Just make sure it has ALA accreditation, and it should be fine.

My university library had about 30 copies of Jurassic Park, and about 10 copies each of most of Anne Rice's novels. That's damn academic.

Wow, that is shocking! I'm guessing that Jurassic Park may have been assigned for a class, but even so....that's way too damn many copies of this book. This library must have money to burn.

i think i should like to be librarian but it sounds like too much work to get there.

It is.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

>>For those of you who did the program, how long did it take you?

My current MLS/Archives program (Simmons in Boston) is 8 classes. If you took 4 a semester, it would only be one year.

Although a more sensible route would be taking 2 classes a semester while working. Which is what I am doing.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Okay, I'm applying to the Univ. of Maryland. Can anyone help me out with out with the first component of the essay question:

"What do you see as the most interesting and/or significant opportunities provided by the information field?"

Also, they want me to pick a specialization. Academic library sounds interesting to me, and having an M.A. in English might be a plus for that, but are academic libraries just mirror, bookish verisions of academia? Are the librarians up for tenure and so on?

I am also interested in the public library. I don't think I am interested in becoming an archivist. I think I am interested in a more general catch-all type of librarian, but please inform me of what the various fields are like.

The Maryland program is 30 credits--I think 2 years. That's a lot of librarianship.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I work at a library!

stephen morris (stephen morris), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

well the good thing about academic libraries (and maybe this could be used in your essay too) is that there is an endlessly replenished stream of hot young things as clients/patrons. i'm pretty sure thats why Ned stays where he is.

as opposed to public libraries - endless new brats to annoy you and a rarely changing clientele of pensioners.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link

are academic libraries just mirror, bookish verisions of academia?

More than you might guess, I'd say. Working even as just a library assistant at one tends to wash away the dewy patina.

there is an endlessly replenished stream of hot young things as clients/patrons. i'm pretty sure thats why Ned stays where he is.

Oh dear. (To be honest, at this rate I'm not staying much longer unless there's a radical kick up in my pay rate/status.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

what does an archivist do? it sounds really sexy and exciting!

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

i've worked in publics, academic and specials - i'm in a special at the moment (media library) and its ok. the good thing is that YOU get to make a lot of decisions, things aren't so rigid. the bad thing is that without a community of librarians/established commitment to library practice etc you tend to get treated like shit.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link

they file document organisations are obliged by law to keep caitlin

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

no, i DON'T want to check upthread for the answer, thanks

xpost

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i MIGHT want to become a librarian/archivist.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

why the fuck am i doing that capitalizing thing

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd want to work in a university library and bang all the hot professors

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Well there is that.

Two former employees at my library were caught in flagrante once. Somehow it was kept quiet. Ish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i work as an assitant in an academic library part time. some of it is terminally dull... other parts are completely awesome! same as every other job i've ever had really. although i don't have a point of comparison with any other kind of job. there is a disappointing lack of hot professors.

gem (trisk), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

apparently the students in my library have a tradition of shaggin' on level four! i haven't caught any in the act as yet.

gem (trisk), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

*point of comparison with any other kind of library i meant

gem (trisk), Friday, 22 April 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago) link


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