straight people going to gay bars/clubs: is this bullshit?

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There's a gay pub just over the road from my flat. It stays open later than the other places in our area, so my boyfriend and I sometimes pop over for a quick late drink. One of our downstairs neighbours works behind the bar. It's a pub not bar, so it's pretty chilled and not especially hook-uppy. It's much friendlier than the pub opposite it, where they look askance at you if you have all your own teeth.

On Saturday a female friend and I were taken to a transvestite/ transgendered club. That was a hook-up joint, but no one minded us being there, several people asked if we'd consider going again. I've never felt quite so short in my entire life though.

That said I don't consider it a right of mine to be able to prance into any given bar or club - establishments make their own rules, written or unwritten - people generally want to hang out with those who share a roughly similar mind set. It's about decoding the signals the place is sending. Dress code and music policy play as big a part in this as anything else. There are certain gay nights I wouldn't go to as a straight woman and I don't go to other places because I'm not a teenager and others yet again because I don't like sports, don't work in the City, am not a goth etc.

Anna, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know if this has been covered above as such, but:

Back in the day, my wife would go to gay clubs with friends, as it was one place they wouldn't get hit on by blokes all the time. Of course, they'd bump into other friends and it would be all "you?" "No" "Me neither"...

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Why bother with the breath spray? Actual cock is surely more fun.
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where do you think the cock breath spray comes from?

ken c, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

China.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I briefly shared a house with a bloke who'd go to the local gay bar (the Granby for Reading ilxors) to pick up women (successfully).

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

every mouthful could potentially be several of ~700 million people's sperms

xpost

ken c, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

You're confusing cock breath with cum breath again.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

the one time i went to a gay club todd terje was playing and i received a sensual back rub from a big shirtless gurning dude with a handlebar. cannot recommend it enough!

rio (r1o natsume), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

this guy?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41129000/jpg/_41129645_gurner203.jpg

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

lol @ kenan

cash rules ? me (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

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kenan's best post ever

NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link

My best male friend at the moment is gay and most of the rest of my friends are women and I don't feel entirely comfortable around most heteronormative dudes as they roar like a bunch of testosterone-fueled grizzlies over touchdowns and goals on the TV and I like to dance and I like to karaoke. So I hope the gays in the gay bars that I go to don't think my presence is bullshit, because they're some of the few places that I don't feel entirely out of place. If there were more non-scenester hetero nancy boy bars, I would go to those.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I HEART CREEPY MENS

cash rules ? me (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

A good male friend of mine used to bartend at a lesbian bar and swears that it was the most sexually active time of his life (he's married now).

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

my friend & i stumbled into an older dudes' gay bar in prague, it took a little while to even realize it was a gay bar. no dancing or anything, just seemed like regular quiet czech bar.

we sat down w/ our beers, noticed we were being stared at a little bit, then noticed the photographs of naked dudes on the walls.

mark cl, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i imagine most people just assumed we were gay, too. we got the stares mostly b/c we were the youngest there by like 20-30 years

mark cl, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

the only thing i love more than dancing to diva house is pussy

max otm btw

zing touch me I'm (sic), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

xp I went into a bar like that in Portland, except no nude photos. The only clues were the overly friendly bartender with multiple rainbow tattoos and the all-male, mostly paired clientele. We couldn't convince the gay dude in our group that it was a gay bar. He went and asked the bartender and felt kinda sheepish when he came back with an affirmative.

cash rules ? me (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

It was a pretty classy place tbh.

cash rules ? me (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

My best male friend at the moment is gay

Misread this as "my best friend is gay at the moment." Hm.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

haha xxp

mark cl, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

The first time I went to London I went out with a friend of mine who was living there at the time. At the first joint we went into she offered to go to the bar. As I sat there and observed the surroundings, I realized that everyone in the place was female and that there were a lot of really butch looking ladies. By the time she got back we'd both figured it out. "Ladies Night" meant something totally different at that bar then what we were used to.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"heteronormative dudes" – lol.

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I had an unfortunate run-in on Halloween night at the gay bar around the corner from my apartment. While waiting for Jesse to show up, I got into a conversation with a guy in his late 30s/early 40s who, it became quickly clear, was quite drunk and lonely. (He had been dancing by himself at his bar stool when I got there.) He asked me if I was "typically straight," and I admitted, "Yes, typically, I am. And I'm in a long-term relationship with a woman right now, so." Of course, that didn't stop him from asking for my number and then later, after I made it clear that I really wasn't interested, from grabbing me and sitting me down on his stool and trying to engage me in some role-playing that involved him as "Jimmy Caan" and me as "Babs" (Funny Lady, I guess?) I tried to laugh it all off, but I guess he took this as me making fun of him, and when he finally left -- by this time, Jesse had shown up -- he narrowed his eyes at me and said, "You breeders make me sick."

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

How big was his stool?

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

trying to engage me in some role-playing that involved him as "Jimmy Caan" and me as "Babs"

dying at this

max, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

men creepily trying to pick up women: generally scary

men creepily trying to pick up men: generally hilarious and sometimes scary

mh, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

How would the gay version of the paper bag test work???

― HI DERE, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:25 PM (1 year ago)

so much joy here

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you guys think you wld get more hostility as a jeans and Old Navy shirt-wearing person in a goth club, or as a str8 in a gay club?

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"I am sorry, you are gayer than this paper bag and therefore too gay to enter this club. Good day."

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you guys think you wld get more hostility as a jeans and Old Navy shirt-wearing person in a goth club, or as a str8 in a gay club?

Definitely the former, in my experience. 'Straights' I've gone to a particular goth club with (for '80s night dancin') have reported quite a bit of hostility from the locals.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan you have made my morning perfect.

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

xp lol Neo

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

what's in the paper bag, though? poppers, maybe

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

that's paper?

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

hey a GIS for "gay bag" turns up a lot

squarefair (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm calling jaymc Babs from now on

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

didn't work for the last guy tho

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

just call him Stools.

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

As I inched my way off the seat, I believe I said, "I'm going to go direct Yentl now."

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

oh okay i thought u meant:

http://badpamma.com/images/model_babs_color.jpg

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

hott girls at gay bars = good

oops i accidentally made it personal (surm), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

kenan i kiss you. those old posts made my morning excellent.

also, i really have no opinion. i've invited so many straight people to gays bars that i have no problem. (i mean, if people REALLY LIKE DISCO, they have a right to go somewhere where they can hear it played super-loud, right?)

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh the hot girls are always the ones i want to punch. it's the crazy theatrical big ugly girls i love in a gay bar.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

(and no i'm not getting confused between them and the queens)

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

you want to punch girls

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

well, yknow. not really. but if i see paris hilton fake lipgloss style girl next to some hot young twink boyfriend (and this is anywhere not just at gay bars), my first inner thought is: 'punch the girl and kidnap the boy'

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

so it's more inner reaction to the beauty myth than actual physical, outward reaction to the beauty myth.

etc.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link


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