This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2005

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... and war of the worlds and squid vs. whale...

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh God, Brokeback could very well win the Voice poll; like that joke the year Arrested Development won the Pazz & Jop because someone said they just sent in a photo.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

syriana
batman begins (maaaaaaaybe)
taste of tea (doesn't really count though)
good night & good luck
the aristocrats
old boy

god... i don't know!! primer?!?! hustle & flow?!! (no) zorro?!?!?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm seeing capote on thursday (i missed this morning's brokeback mtn screening.. :( )

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

argh

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i saw cinderella man finally! wow is that corny.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

At least their releasing it a third time paid off in your case!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I couldn't decide what to give the tepid-but-widespread-support slot on the top 10 to. I went with Brokeback, but I could easily see either Good Night, and et al. or Broken Flowers in there on the same wavelength.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

it occured to me that a much more efficient title for the film would have been "cinderfella". same meaning, less words!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

http://dvdvideo.co.nz/shop/images/roadshow/cinderfella.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, cinderfella 2

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

And with the same leading man, even.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

more or less!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god I forgot hitchhiker's came out this year. what a fucking disaster. worst movie of the year by far

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

People generally mean "measured against expectations" when they say that, right? cuz Paris Hilton was in some slasher movie.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

House Of Wax! A remake of the Vincent Price CLASSIC!

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't trust most of my friends when they talk about the "worst movie of the year," because they self-select what they see and thus probably actively avoided a lot of the bad stuff in the first place. Critics who are obligated to see everything, on the other hand...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

What about your Film Critic Friend?

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen an awful lot of films this year, but three stand out, and they're not very surprising:

I Heart Huckabees
Batman Begins
Sideways

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

speaking of bad movies i also have a "bottom 5" to do... here's the shortlist:

star wars 3
elektra
casanova
mindhunters
huckabees
racing stripes?
be cool
the pacifier
brothers grimm

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

What about your Film Critic Friend?

I knew you were going to say that!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Mindhunters!

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Please sir, don't mindhunt me!

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

He says that The Cave is "one of the" worst movies of the year -- I don't know what else is on the list.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, also Elektra, apparently.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I am combing through e-mails.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

The Cave was made better in Britain (predictably), as "The Descent".

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Elektra was also made better in Britain.

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

slocki, what did you think of sideways?

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The British evrsion was better.

You know, Last of The Summer Wine.

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, Sideways was a 2004 release in N. America!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"N. America" is a United Kingdom production.

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

s1ocki, we've had our flamey diffs but you're a bright guy. C'mon, even if huckabees didn't work for you it had the courage of its ambitions. (also 2004 US)

A friend sez he's got a surreptitious huckabees tape to lend me of D.O. Russell going apeshit on the set, abusing the actors, etc -- anyone hear tell?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I liked Batman. I really enjoyed it.

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

russell certainly had some notorious snit-fits on the set! and i really do like his other stuff--and i won't hold his ambitions against him--but huckabees is a real failure to me, and not a particularly interesting one. i mean it's certainly better than elektra!

actually didn't it come out in 2004? so scratch it.

i thought sideways (also 2004) was mostly junk.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I hated sideways (anti-friendship) and loved huckabees (close your eyes and count to five, now: nothing has the name you give it)

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Sideways. Huckabees was okay, sort of annoying.

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

huckabees' shrill bad fake screwball stuff really rubbed me the wrong way (and i think o. russell can do screwball WELL when he gets it right)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

there is one classic scene in huckabees (the commercial scene) and the rest of the movie is a lame excuse for that scene, and it's also really poorly edited. but it's still better than hitchhiker's.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's strange that I can't ever really say what my favorite movie of any given year is without rattling off a list of 9 or 10 movies I haven't seen yet that "could change that," but conversely I have no real qualms about calling Crash the worst movie I saw this last year full stop.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't even see crash!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

adam hates his friends! prob. incl. you, kyle : /

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Adam: since I know you're so interested in my Film Critic Friend, here's what I'm predicting as his top ten of the year (in no particular order, except maybe reverse chronological):

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Walk the Line, Capote, Good Night and Good Luck, The Constant Gardener, Crash, War of the Worlds, Millions, Oldboy, Nobody Knows

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Sideways had one great scene (the entire section at Sandra Oh's house) and was pretty bad other than that.

Huckabees had moments (mostly involving Mark Wahlberg) but 'shrill bad fake screwball stuff' is completely OTM.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Crash is definitely the worst movie I've seen this year.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

oh shit Millions, I take back hitchhiker's being the worst of the year, that takes it by a mile. Unforgivable!

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

What distinguishes fake screwball from real screwball, I wonder.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Walk The Line sucked too.

Crash was monumentally wrong and bad.

― Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing that most "best" and "worst" movies of the year have in common is that they're both being deemed "most significant." I think even some publications still do their year end lists with "significant" being the operative umbrella term.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

walk the line was great. adam is insane. it's okay though. i haven't seen crash. there is no way it is worse than millions. NO WAY.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

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