Which is the least racist country in the world?

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I've always felt that Eastern Europe is full of racists. Fucking Slavs!

Lovelace (Lovelace), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

..with all the fucking skinhead jack asses in Australia?

Tibet is the winner.

kiki ramone, Sunday, 12 June 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, those Tibetans sure love the Chinese.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 12 June 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

my gut wants to say li[b]e[/b]chtenstein, but i don't know anything about it. anyone been to liechtenstein?

yeah been there. The impression I got was that there were only tourists.

Ludo (Ludo), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Look at the crap that's going on with asylum seekers in Ireland recently.

More an administrative probelem than a social one, was my impression. And the figures from NationMaster seem to back this up. As does the recent article in Time

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
The Spirit Country, where the formless spirit resides before its embodiment and growth. Where color is of no importance, nor habits culture, or riches and status. Just the soul and its desire to grow.

Bodie, Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

How do you wank if you're a soul?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 24 April 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I met one horribly racist man, in the czech republic

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 April 2006 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

So how is lack of racism ranked?

I'd say Iceland is the least racist country I've been to because I've never heard anything bad or stereotypical said about any other race in the country. Then again, 99.5% of Icelandic residents are, well, Icelandic or Scandinavian..(actually, many Icelanders move to the other three Scandinavian countries because Iceland is too conservative for them.), so do they get marked down for being sheltered or being very neutral about it all?

(Point being: "which is the least racist country in the world?" is a ridiculous question to ask...)

Also the "least racist" country could end up being the "most homo-bigoted" country as well, or the most misogynist, or the least. What's the context of the measuring stick in the first place? Thread length? (Hi! :D)

DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

nobody said america?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

118 messages and nobody said america?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

america was proffered at the very top of the thread. it just wasn't taken as a given that that was the right answer, which is ok with me. i mean, america is my answer, but i don't mind people thinking otherwise. they've got plenty of reason to. the cabbie who drove us to the airport when we left manchester told us, "you know what i like about america? you really knew how to handle those blacks!"

so, i mean, america means a lot of different things depending on who's looking at us.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link

America: good at handling the blacks. Not so much the arabs. Though obviously everything that happens there gets a lot more coverage.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link

the daily show is racist, quite often.

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

like when?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link

the daily show does a lot of "those goofy arabs" jokes. they're not as meanspirited as what you get some places, but it's still basically race jokes. i was thinking how much actual racist humor i've heard in my life, in mainstream stuff, and it's a lot. the first thing i remember hearing about arabs in america was eddie murphy's routine about the guy at the 7-11. i thought that shit was funny. white kid from the suburbs, wtf do i know? it's a black guy saying it, can't be racist. which is somewhat how the daily show slides on it, it's a jewish guy making fun of everyone including jews. but the jokes are still racist. it's funny that there's this always this fantasy that racism was something that happened in the past. every generation wants to believe that, right.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, AS I KEEP SAYING there is something wrong wherever you define other people as needing to be 'handled' or 'tolerated' by people like yourselves.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

but otoh tolerance (if not acceptance) of multiculturalism/other cultures (inc. religions) is seen as a good thing.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 24 April 2006 08:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't know that the racisms of different countries are necessarily comparable, but in a sense my answer to this question is America, too. i definitely think America is the best country in which to be perceived as part of the quasi-racial Muslim-y Arab demographic at this historical moment, bad stuff notwithstanding. whenever I affirm this, a lot of people get uncomfortable and rush to point out all the fucked up race shit in America, but I think that that reaction is part of the reason I prefer American race politics (especially to my perception of those politics in European countries), that there's an undeniability to the history of American racism, because so much of it played out within the country's borders from its inception. so reasonable Americans know it's a fallen racial world we inhabit, whereas I feel like the kind of idealistic "there's no racism here" ethos in some European societies makes it impossible to see the problems clearly.

of course I'm overgeneralizing, and there's tons of denial about racism in America, but still. I'm moderately committed to my answer.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Monday, 24 April 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand the number of people picking the U.S. over Canada!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

give me a better example of the daily show's quite often racism

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Canada: In 2001, 13.4% of the population belonged to visible minorities

USA:

Hispanics comprise 13% of the population (2000 census) which include people from South and Central America.
African Americans, or Blacks, comprise 13% (2000 census) of the American population.
Asian Americans, including Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders, are a fourth significant minority (4% of the population in 2000).

ETC

YOU ARE NEARLY ALL WHITE (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Toronto is the most multicultural city in the world. In 2004, the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) ranked Toronto second, behind Miami, in its "List of World Cities with the Largest Percentage of Foreign-born Population". Though ranking first, Miami's foreign-born population is mostly Hispanic, whereas Toronto's is significantly more diverse. Toronto also ranked ahead of Los Angeles, Vancouver, New York City, Singapore, and Sydney.

Toronto represents a multicultural mosaic. The 2001 Canadian census indicates 42.8% of Toronto's population being of a visible minority. In March 2005, Statistics Canada projected that the visible minority proportion will comprise a majority in both Toronto and Vancouver by 2012.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoriteam

I don't know whether this cartoon being produced in America is evidence for it being the least racist country in the world or not.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

re: LA v Toronto

that percentage for LA almost definitely doesn't include "illegals", cuz id it did, those people in addition to naturalized Latinos, Koreans, etc etc would be over 50% easy

xpost

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

TORONTO IS NOT A COUNTRY

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link

also, arent they all just immigrats from taiwan & hk anyway?

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"least racist" is probably the wrong metric, since the least racist country might well be one with only one race. "country in which racial minorities enjoy the greatest range of economic and cultural opportunity, recognition and achievement" might be a better (if considerably wordier) thing to look at.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

largest # of immigrants /= least racist

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

no, right, that's the thing, more races and cultures tends to produce more friction. but it also produces more hybridization, miscegenation, cultural interaction, etc. which is why i think "least racist" might be the wrong thing to look for.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

did you guys read the rest of the thread at all?

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

TORONTO IS NOT A COUNTRY.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll second gypsy mothra abt the vaguely racist Daily SHow antics - specifically any time they use clips from a foreign broadcast and then do a goofy voiceover about how silly them crazy furriners are (which they do ALL THE TIME). It isn't KKK-style racism, but they're cheap and lazy laughs, and I don't really see any justification for them.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

MY FAVORITE COUNTRY IS LOS ANGELES

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

los angeles is a continent or a hemisphere, i'll get back to you (or is it an hemisphere?)

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

T/S: LAZY COMEDY VS. DEFENDING COUNTRIES WITH HORRIBLE HUMAN RIGHTS RECORDS

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

YA ALL CAPS!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

toronto is IN a country

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Canada is in America

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

america is in north america

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

NORTH AMERICA IS IN ALL CAPS!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

NORTH AMERICA IS IN AMERICA

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

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JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

This is so much better than doing work right now.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

massive xposts

stevem, there is a GULF of difference betweeen the meanings inherent in 'tolerance' and 'acceptance'. I prefer the latter. Ideally would like everybody to wake up one morning unperturbed by their neighbours coming from somewhere different.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"Pobably Greenland."

You have got to be kidding. You are dead meat if you are a Dane here. The local news is so Greenland-centric you'd think it was the centre of the earth.

I was surprised when I was trying to learn a bit of Polish for my holiday one year, that one of the guys on the tape was a black dude. One unfortunate family in 1950 got off the banana boat in Gdansk!!

JTS (JTS), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

HINT: Greenland is not Denmark.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

"HINT: Greenland is not Denmark."

Huh? Greenland has no independence, it is owned by Denmark. Hence the hatred of Danes and those who speak Danish in Greenland (when I said "here" I was talking about Greenland). The native Inuit people are very set in their ways, and the only ever Greenlandic film ever made was an elitist propaganda about an Inuit doing some "soul searching" after his sons became "too Western" (they went on a shooting spree and on of them turned the gun on himself. This is, o course, what being "Western" is all about :P).

JTS (JTS), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Greenland has no independence, it is owned by Denmark.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Toronto second, behind Miami, in its "List of World Cities with the Largest Percentage of Foreign-born Population".

how many of the "Foreign-born" were born in the "United States"? in real numbers - the number of immigrants who came to New York in the 1990s exceeds the city population of Toronto.

~25% of Torontoans are Asian and ~8% are black. roughly 10% of compare to New Yorkers are Asian, 25% are black non-hispanic, and 27% are hispanic.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link


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