Star Wars - Classic or Dud?

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I saw an ad for that on a bus yesterday and boggled.

I seriously thought you said 'blogged' at first.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 November 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

he was going to but he sneezed

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

re Star Wars In Concert, I actually wish I'd got to this when it was playing in the UK. About the only thing that has not been sullied by the prequels and Lucas's revisionism is the music from the originals, and the music composed for the prequels was great in parts too. I'd imagine hearing it played by a full orchestra with suitable visual accompaniment would be pretty spectacular (oh yeah, as stevie confirms a few x-posts back).

Bill A, Monday, 16 November 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

/lol i might be going to this http://www.starwarsinconcert.com//

I saw an ad for that on a bus yesterday and boggled. Guess you can always find new ways to bilk fanboys.
--Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc)

Yeah because who likes to go see a full symphony orchestra play awesome movie scores with a giant movie screen?

Bears Are Alive! (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, 16 November 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

you can always find new ways to trick people into doing things they enjoy!

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Monday, 16 November 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

was totally tricked into eating a cheeseburger tonight.

ian, Monday, 16 November 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ROBBLE ROBBLE TRICK ROBBLE ROBBLE

http://behnnie.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hamburglar.jpeg

Bears Are Alive! (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxxxxxxpost - There it is, thank you Ned! Let me express my gratitude by sending you some Bob Seger MP3s...

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

About the only thing that has not been sullied by the prequels and Lucas's revisionism is the music from the originals,

Except that he changed the Ewok song in the end of RotJ to some generic soundtrack music! That was one of the worst changes in the "special editions", the Ewok song kicked ass! If this "Star Wars in Concert" has a choir performing that song, I'd totally pay for the ticket.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link

totally.

fel (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link

cannot remember whether or not the 'jub jub' song was performed.

lucas should've left 'lap ti nek' in rtj too.

When she is finished, Reader, the vagina has won, hands down. (stevie), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

oh dear, Tuomas, you are right of course. iirc the padded out "new" ending song for rotj allowed for more scenes of celebrations on other cgi planets? so bland I cannot bring it to mind, whereas I have been humming that ewok song since reading yr post.

Bill A, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I got it stuck in my head too after I mentioned it, whereas I can barely remember what the new ending was like. I think you're right that there was some bland scenes about celebration on other planets. I can't imagine why Lucas wanted to change such a catchy song, and a scene every kid who ever saw it remembers.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, what's "Lap Ti Nek"?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

the song sung by the group in jabba's palace

When she is finished, Reader, the vagina has won, hands down. (stevie), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Was that what the Max Rebo Band played before it got replaced by that horrific ersatz "soul" number? Man, Lucas sure knew how to fuck up the music in Jedi in a way that my faulty memory must have blanked out. Poor Max Rebo.

Bill A, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

When I introduced my kid to ROTJ last year, he ate the Special Edition musical number up. I'm pretty sure that that scene is entirely responsible for me teaching him how to press Rewind on the remote.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Monte Williams has a nice write-up about the Star Wars series in popmatters. He makes a good point for the Phantom Menace actually being the best of the prequels, and points out flaws in the remaining two that show just how much Lucas mangled the overarching mythology.

Palpatine is a cunning conniver, and some of his speeches to the malleable Anakin Skywalker are creepy in their cold persuasiveness. But while the first stirrings of Anakin‘s turn to the dark side are convincing, things escalate too quickly; he essentially kills “younglings” as his opening chore for Palpatine.

Admittedly, it’s a powerful scene. When the young child Jedi asks Anakin, “What are we going to do?” and then steps backward, eyes widening in horrible understanding, it‘s easily the most chilling and terrible moment in the six-film saga. But does it ring true? Darth Vader later attempts to bring Luke to the dark side in Return of the Jedi; had he succeeded, would Luke have so quickly killed kids, just because it was asked of him? I do not believe that he would have. For that matter, I do not believe that Anakin would have; his turn to the dark side, the axis on which all six films tilt, feels false.

Now that we know that Vader murdered children, it’s clear that his redemption in Return of the Jedi comes too easily; he killed kids and oversaw the destruction of the Jedi, and yet Luke and the ghosts of Yoda and Obi-Wan are so quickly chummy with him. I am reminded of an amusing recap of The Rock‘s long-ago Wrestlemania feud with Hulk Hogan, in which Scott Keith provided imaginary dialogue for the wrestlers when they suddenly became buddies after their match: “Hogan and Rock make nice-nice, as presumably Hogan is all ‘Sorry about the attempted murder, brother’ and Rock is all, ‘It‘s cool, I didn‘t sell the injury anyway.’”

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/116083-what-if-were-all-mythtaken-about-star-wars/

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

An alternative cut should have for Force ghosts of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon beating Anakin with sticks. That's some Lucas CGI editing dickery that I could get behind.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

for = the

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i cannot help but read that stupid article in simpsons comic book guy voice in my head

"Consider Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, pretty much unanimously held aloft as the most triumphant entry in the entire Star Wars series. Here you have a movie which admittedly boasts wildly imaginative creatures, vehicles and set designs, but which offers not a single memorable line of dialogue."

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

wow

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

but which offers not a single memorable line of dialogue

BULLSHIT.

"I love you."
"I know."

Fritz Severe (stevie), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

that's two lines for you

Fritz Severe (stevie), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"ROWR"

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your <SPOILER>"
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me <SPOILER>"
Vader: "No. <MASSIVE SPOILER>"

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Adventure? Excitement? Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless!

wanko ergo surm (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

L: I'm not afraid
Y: You will be!

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"That boy is our last hope"

"What about Leia you fucking tard?"

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL, Fuzzball

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

L: I'm not afraid
Y: You will be!

This is the best part of any of these movies.

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought they smelled bad on the outside.

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

best bits of the film where no-one is talking

- AT-AT tumble
- Yoda moving the X-Wing out of and across the swamp
- shot of the bald dude with those coms devices on his ears staring towards camera
- Vader's silent rage as the MF jumps to hyperspace at the end

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

-Luke looks out at twin suns
-lights going over Yoda after he says "There is another"

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

with with Star Wars and strangulation anyway?

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

what's with

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Trouble with your droid?

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Lando has so many cool lines...

Lando: "I'm sorry, but I've got problems of my own."
Han: "Oh, you're a real hero..."

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Also some of the worst pick up lines...

Lando (to Leia): "you truly belong with us here above the clouds"

...I guess that they don't have Colt 45 in the SW universe.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Lando's not a system he's a man.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

This is no cave.

Never tell me the odds.

Meatcat (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

okay just this one since i'm already here

It's not my fault

carne asada, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ I love that line, since it's said by both Han and Lando at different points in Empire.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

the Han one is better. Ford just runs the whole show.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

THEN I'LL SEE YOU IN HELL!

Meatcat (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

he is clumsy as he is stupid

bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

ooh and of course,
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

could go on all night with vadar..

Asteroids do not concern me, Admiral. I want that ship, not excuses.

bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm realizing I can just about quote the entire movie, so I'm gonna stop now, except:

"My hands are dirty."
"My hands are dirty too. What are you afraid of?"

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

the dialog is so much better in this movie than either Star Wars or ROTJ!

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link


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