atheism vs. agnosticism

Because I think it's culturally and spiritually useful to have a religion, I identify as Christian -- a lot of people who loved and cared about me spent a lot of effort trying to drum some Christian morality into my young heart, and I haven't yet come up with any overwhelming reason to discard that. In terms of actual, interior, pit-of-my-soul BELIEF, I lean closer to agnosticism. Does it go without saying that I attend a UU church?

I say I'm an agnostic, because I'm not sure if there is anything 'more' beyond life, I wouldn't mind if there was.

Dan & jaymc - I had the same experience last year. In high school I was like "meh I'm agnostic but I don't know what to do to really think about God so I'll wait until I have better time and resources in college," not expecting to actually DO so. And then I get assigned a roommate who is one of the nicest, smartest people I've met, who has an amazing and deep sense of beauty and who doesn't blow off questions like "how can all suffering possibly be for a greater good?" as just a lack of faith...so, oops, those midnight conversations sort of DID change my view of Christianity. It's a little jarring, though, how so many of the Christians I know here often have the same sorts of doubts I do even though they believe in God...it's like "whoa is there EVER a resolution if you're honest with yourself?"

near as i can tell, they're just agnostics who go to church about it!

I went to a Dominican high school, where we were taught this. The Dominicans are kind of weird - I mean, they pretty much showed me the path to agnosticism.

[T]he sacred orgasm is your Divine Right. Your beautiful bodies were designed for this in order to attract evolving souls into your plane, third dimensional planet Earth. The reptilian-based tyrants have kept you from this knowledge. They have imprisoned you in guilt and shame; you are ashamed of your bodies which are works of art.

They think after God, starting from the death of God without caring about what might mean the death of God, it's "existence", if it still exists; the tranquil atheist doesn't care about this kind of questions.

Deleuze explains it's less caring about a static negation or a fight against God than a dynamic method emerging on a positive proposition aiming at building after the fight.

OTM

This guy embodies surreal silliness.

Touche Daniel !

THe self is never an illusion eh, your gestures are all original! Immortality beckons!

To cite CS Lewis again: "Doubts are the ants in the pants of Faith".

As I said, I liked the bits about the development of the Christ 'myth' and I think they are pretty strong - the medieval insistance on Christ having a virgin birth is a good example of how changing social attitudes affect these characters. I didn't want to post on your thread either, like how you don't want to step on a fresh snowfall - it's very cool.

I left that out, because it was boring (altho I talked about elsewhere on that board: it's about copyright), but nice calling me on it: you read carefully.
the argument to explain these 'mentionnings' : copysts. A text lacked a little bit of text? they add it! tacitus doesn'T mention jesus: now, that's not very nice of him isn'it? let's correct tacitus then! let's correct flavius joseph by adding a sentense about jésus. no copyright then... not very honest one might say, but as I said they were in performative logic of truth building.

Since Dan denies that any person could be intrinsically good or evil, how does his attributed emotion of "hate" make sense?

Not on external grounds. And Steve's blog doesn’t regard it's use of schizophrenia as being confused with MPD.

Well alright then.

(these are the slowest animated gifs ever)

Woah, somebody doesn't understand spacial relations. That inverter be fucked up, man.

This is rather simplistic, but it doesn't have congruent reasoning. I am so confused.

In most cases, the rejection of the Creator does not result from logical conclusions. The average atheist, if he or she is honest, will cite an emotional motivation for lack of faith in God.

The late Isaac Asimov once wrote: “Emotionally I am an atheist. I don’t have the evidence to prove that God doesn’t exist, but I so strongly suspect that he doesn’t that I don’t want to waste my time.” Now that Mr. Asimov is dead, I suspect he wishes he would have invested time into proving the existence of God.

Most people who do not think God exists betray their stance by arguing with Him. If God is not real, there is no need to be hostile toward Him or toward anyone who believes in Him.