itt a strange man asks if you saw the ass on that one

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yeah but see i'm not really an ass man

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't imagine saying to a woman i don't know at all "i enjoy looking at your ass"

I can, if she is leading a donkey by the reins and I am actually a character in a "Naked Gun" movie.

I don't understand how anyone who spends any amount of time here could be surprised about the outcome of this poll; this comment up thread is basically OTM with the caveat that turning it into an anecdote makes it easier to sockpuppet the original dude into a harmless creep: it's like a real life WS thread but with horrible men no one else wants to talk to

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

where is the option for 'back that ass up'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i like how you verbed sockpuppet xpost

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

braggin: girl who was friends with my roommate a few years ago apparently described me as "he doesn't talk much but he's got a cute ass and I can't help but stare at it." I have no problem with this afaik.

angels we have heard while high (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

"pics or it didn't happen"

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

turning it into an anecdote makes it easier to sockpuppet the original dude into a harmless creep

well yeah

honestly i was just hoping ppl would post their own, weird interactions with strangers sharing their opinions

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

that aren't reposts from ilx

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

heyo

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh I have no idea which side dan took with that post

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

what about if the ass the strange man is referring to is his own?

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

ok that would be hilarious

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"did you see the ass on that one?" *points to self*

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

lmao I wish ppl would do this ^

angels we have heard while high (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I was trolling to a large degree, no doubt.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

no one cares if it was yr gf or sister :/

― harbl, Monday, November 30, 2009 7:27 PM (Yesterday)

was mostly joking when i said that btw
i, for one, am not taking this poll seriously

harbl, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

when guys do this, they're doing it instead of actually approaching the women, it's kind of weird and almost passive-aggressive maybe.

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll tell a story I love that's relevant here (and b/c though I want to contribute to this thread, I dare not in any other way; it's a tinderbox)

Le Corbusier was at a party with his wife, Yvonne Gallis. She's an odd duck. She's bored at the party, so she walks up to one of the guests and says "L'avez-vous vu ?" [Have you seen it?] The guest doesn't know what she's talking about, and says, "Qui?" She replies, "Mon cul!" [My ass!].

I use that line all the time now, on my generous and loving wife. It never fails to crack me up (my wife is tolerant).

Euler, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

My driving instructor was also a female friend's driving instructor. One day, on learning that we knew each other, he said "That girl's got some HEALTHY legs, don't she?"

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

when guys do this, they're doing it instead of actually approaching the women, it's kind of weird and almost passive-aggressive maybe.

― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:44 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

think this is a better answer than it being about "ownership" (???)

angels we have heard while high (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean the only guys who have ever done this ime are guys who i figure to be completely, 100% lost around women, so they deal with them through trying to find some common ground with other guys, like "hey we're all in this together, right?"

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty sure that it's more common than you think? Much like whatsits in your thingy.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

lol omar, thx for explaining the impulse behind the WS threads on 77 so succinctly

trying not to wince at "whatists in your thingy"

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I pass guys pretty reg who are discussing other women walking around. So it's not said TO me but I think it's common. Also have had guy friends tell me they're walking w a friend or GF and having strange men congratulate THEM on the female companion's rack/ass/etc.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.tatteredcoat.com/images/heat-pacino-buggy.jpg

luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think it's uncommon, but i think the strange man walking by is usually some sad-sack looking dude who wants to feel like part of "the brotherhood of men"

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Also have had guy friends tell me they're walking w a friend or GF and having strange men congratulate THEM on the female companion's rack/ass/etc.

this is just nuts, i wouldn't even know what to say if someone said that to me.

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

these are the same guys who think Hank Moody is a rock star, and not a sad, sorry person whose life is in shambles.

Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, yes, a good point on thread is that a ~that guy~'s impulse to do this is in a solid relationship to his feelings of disempowerment/alienation from the status quo.

This is how it is about entitlement/ownership: if men feel shut out from a normal or "successful" world, one of the first things they do is band together against outsiders, frequently women, who have less power/lower status and can be safely used to prop up men's egos, even without the woman's knowledge (like when her azz is rated out of her hearing).

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

- Also have had guy friends tell me they're walking w a friend or GF and having strange men congratulate THEM on the female companion's rack/ass/etc.

- this is just nuts, i wouldn't even know what to say if someone said that to me

you say thank you and get on with your life. i used to date a model and guys would do this to me once in a while. esp at parties. the odd girl would do it too. i never really thought too much of it.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

gbx did you, in fact, see "the ass on that one"?

everyone stop (dan m), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd also like to say i think this thread is retarded.
xpost

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty disrespectful if it's rack and ass comments. i mean general "wow she's really attractive" comments are not a big deal.

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean the only guys who have ever done this ime are guys who i figure to be completely, 100% lost around women, so they deal with them through trying to find some common ground with other guys, like "hey we're all in this together, right?"

― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, December 1, 2009 2:36 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

totally otm. i might also sub "around people" for "around women," for the reasons laurel stated (ie dudes are kinda out of the mainstream in general and women are a 'safe' bet for singling out because, hey, they're just chicks right!). that being said, it still seems like the appropriate other guy response to that guy is still just sort of a wan smile or total disregard.

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

dan, i actually didn't!

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that's kinda what i do.

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

xxx-post i was gonna say, its pretty polite commentary to be like "yr signficant other is attractive" but there really isn;t a male analogue to balance out "i was @_@ yr lady's can". not like any of my wife's friends are like "daaaaaaamn your husband's got some dick on him".

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

This is how it is about entitlement/ownership: if men feel shut out from a normal or "successful" world, one of the first things they do is band together against outsiders

To be totally clear, this impulse is universal and not unique to men...but when women do it, they aren't able to target the opposite gender because that shit really only rolls downhill one way, and issues of sexual aggressiveness/public embarrassment and definitely physical/sexual risk leave women at a disadvantage every time.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i hope that marc loi engages in homosocial bonding by going to strip clubs and giving stern lectures to the patrons.

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i think if i met marc loi i would feel compelled to say something lewd about a woman's can, just to get the full experience

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

considering starting a madrigal group called The Marc Loi Experience

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i would like to subscribe to yr madrigal group's newsletter

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i still kinda object to the "ownership" and racism-equating here. if i see a guy standing on top of the space needle and point it out to a random passerby (recently happened), i am not claiming ownership over the event or person in question. i'm just expressing interest, and sharing that interest, attempting to forge some human connection, however trivial/momentary.

the expression of sexual interest is more complex and socially loaded, but underlying impulse is similarly value-neutral. ~that~ guy sees a woman, and since he doesn't know her and won't approach her, she's abstract to him. because he doesn't know her, she cannot be anything but abstract to him. a shape, an idea, a set of possibilities - some gross, some not. we all "own" our conception of strangers in this sense, but there's nothing wrong with any of it.

in sharing his ass-fancy with some stranger, ~that~ guy attempts to expand his vision out from himself, to forge some human connection with it. since he's not shouting about it or approaching the woman in question, we suppose that he understand the social boundaries involved well enough not inflict himself on her directly. but his crudity is nonetheless off-putting.

i guess i don't see the transgression. to see and to lust is neither right nor wrong, it's simply how human beings work. it'd be nice if we were all more gracious in dealing with this, but we're not, so...

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

the expression of sexual interest is more complex and socially loaded, but underlying impulse is similarly value-neutral.

disagree

goole, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ass-fancy is a little too close to fuck-want

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

admittedly a better read than cat-fancy

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

assage

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

allow me to assage you all

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god what is this i wield

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link


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