'thoughts are sacrosanct' makes no sense. of course they are -- no one knows your thoughts.
sacrosanct means "sacred" and especially "beyond reproach". Not "unknown" or "unknowable".
― Of course I want frosting. I'm a Scorpio. (kenan), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Not taking a side in this little beef, I'm just saying.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/CMXCloacamaximaII.jpg
Is this the ass the thread is about? Sure seems like it to me.
― doobieborther, Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
itt a doobie borther asks if you saw the rear-mounted prop on that one
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
If someone starts up that prop, that ass is in for some immediate and severe reduction surgery.
― Of course I want frosting. I'm a Scorpio. (kenan), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
'jetpack: the early experiments'
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
finally i am now genuinely wondering what "really and truly sucks" about a world where people say less racist and sexist shit (nb we DO NOT LIVE IN THIS WORLD.) like what are you missing out on here?? the n-word??? your right to tell a woman how much you like her rack?!
I don't think contenderizer is advocating for a world in which people are given carte blanche to be outwardly insensitive all the time -- more like a world where people aren't made to feel subhuman for thinking or saying certain "unacceptable" things. I mean, most people know they're not supposed to think or express thoughts that are politically incorrect or morally reprehensible, but it happens, anyway, because the brain is a complex, fertile thing and people have flaws and make mistakes.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
The flipside is that other people are made to feel subhuman by these unacceptable things and what goes around comes around. If you don't want people to think you're a racist, don't do or say racist things. If you don't want people to think you're a sexist, don't do or say sexist things. It's a pretty unambiguous point, IMO.
The big issue here is that when these things happen, no one ever seems to want to apologize for what they did until someone literally screams at them; if the apologies/willingness to show concern/remorse for hurting other people was more forthcoming, I don't think people would be so "don't do it in the first place" about it.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Regarding no one in particular, I take it.
― Of course I want frosting. I'm a Scorpio. (kenan), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Regarding no one in particular, although that did happen here on this thread. I'm not attempting to scapegoat anyone or make anyone feel bad about something that they've already apologized for and I'm sorry if I come across that way; I wish I was a better writer so that I could make the point without making everyone think I'm continuing to take potshots at someone over an issue that's been resolved.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
(The "funny" thing here is that when people who have never actually shown much propensity towards racist/sexist behavior come onto these threads and start going "oh no, you are making me bad for having unacceptable thoughts", the first reaction I have is "wait, what the hell are you actually thinking that makes you react like this?????" and it takes a while for the mental images of them daydreaming about donning Klan robes and smacking women to go away.)
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Only on weekends, for the record.
― Of course I want frosting. I'm a Scorpio. (kenan), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
should there be a thread for dark thoughts one has had, that would not be matched in any way by reality?
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
no
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
here it is, i remember
Quieting the Imps in Your Brainz
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
when i see a hot guy with a great round ass i wonder what it would be like to bury my face in it but i don't think that's an "imp" as much as a "healthy libido"
― faster pussycat master blaster (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 17:50 (4 months ago) Bookmark
:D
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The "funny" thing here is that when people who have never actually shown much propensity towards racist/sexist behavior come onto these threads and start going "oh no, you are making me bad for having unacceptable thoughts",
a lot tied up here w/shame & how people deal with the whole general concept of shame imo
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Very true. My shame tends to make me feel ashamed, and pretending that it doesn't is (I have learned) quite futile, if not counterproductive.
― Of course I want frosting. I'm a Scorpio. (kenan), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
In a similar vein, my joy tends to make me feel joyful and my anger tends to make me feel angry.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link
― Of course I want frosting. I'm a Scorpio. (kenan), Thursday, December 3, 2009 8:19 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
they are beyond reproach frmo others, was my point, because others dont know them
― ice cr?m hand job (deej), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
can't believe we went 800 posts without any ass images being posted
― strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
especially given that someone dropped an n-bomb on this thread and it wasnt addressed for like 100 posts
― max, Thursday, December 3, 2009 7:57 AM (6 hours ago)
it wasn't cankles so the mods let it slide
― luol deng (am0n), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
to repeat a point, no one is saying people don't have certain thoughts, but rather that it's good to self-moderate (lol) those thoughts and not run with them. like that teacher described upthread. yes, ok, i suppose an adult male teacher might consider a 17 year old girl attractive, but a decent person who has those thoughts just shrugs and says to himself, "well ok, can't go there obviously, let's drop the subject." why that guy was creepy was he actually got to the point where he was "that guy" to a male student, like trying to bro down at his level. which is super-creepy, because it says to me he's a guy who just doesn't see those boundaries. anyway, this has all been addressed before.
― omar little, Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread title can be funny if you imagine John McCain saying it about President Obama
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
in ref to Palin, presumably
― strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
altho I can totally picture John McCain being a creepy guy hanging around the liquor store parking lot
Yeah. You know that Larry Clark movie Bully? About the kids who decide to kill one of their peers? A lot of people thought it was pretty silly exploitation material, but that movie genuinely fucked me up, and it was mostly because of the way it shined a light on the "banality of evil." There was a character in that movie -- all based on a true story, btw -- who seemed like a sweet, shy, dorky kid, but because he caved in to peer pressure and went along for the ride, he was considered an accessory to the crime and received a serious jail sentence. Now I certainly don't think the dude should've gotten off the hook -- he was certainly old enough to know what he was doing -- but the idea that that one choice he made had such a drastic impact on his life frankly terrified me, because it wasn't that difficult to imagine myself, in perhaps a less-sordid scenario, doing something equally thoughtless and having to live with the knowledge of what I'd done. Humans have the capacity to do and think a lot of things they might not expect of themselves, and that's why it sometimes rankles when people pretend like they're above that.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
no McCain is talking about Obama's ass in my fantasy--to continue the fantasy, Sarah Palin can be the clerk inside the liquor store
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I pretty much have had that same McCain/Obama mental image for this entire thread
jaymc, I don't really have much sympathy for the person in your scenario. I am a firm believer in owning the consequences of your actions; if you are with people doing something stupid/illegal, expect that stupidity/illegality to follow you. That is the way the world works. If the kid went along, saw the murder, reported it, cooperated fully with the police and still got a serious jail sentence, I can see where you're coming from, but if he helped keep the secret of what happened then he IS an accessory to the crime.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
And again, this goes back to judging actions; dude may have had all the "this is fucked up and WRONG" thoughts in the world, but if he didn't do or say anything about it, he doesn't get credit for it. Sorry.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Sarah Palin can be the clerk inside the liquor store
lolz you betcha
― strange asses outside liquor stores (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck Larry Clark btw
LOL i forgot about this, how could i ever forget about this
http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2008/10/john-mccain-sticking-tongue-out.jpg
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
that didn't work but i did find out Meredith Baxter Admits She is a Gay Lesbian :)
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
what
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
click it
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
she is also no good and house
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
helen hunt not looking so good
― omar little, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
it works for me
http://demswin.com/John_McCain/Images/McTongue.jpg
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Dan, I'm not saying he shouldn't have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but it just gave me the chills to realize how easy it can be to slip into moral turpitude, and it underscored to me that people cannot be so neatly divided into good and evil when all of us are inherently capable of evil acts, simply by giving into a temptation or listening to an impish thought.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
it's easy to get into a car and the other people who are in the car are going to kill someone, and you know it? that's easy? how is that easy?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
yah but jaymc you realize by acknowledging that you're agreeing w us?? that thats an important thing to think about?
― ice cr?m hand job (deej), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i love how it looks like mccain is giving obama's ass 4 1/2 stars out of 5
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait, I'm agreeing with whom? About what?
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't agree with us
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah jmc's got a pt here; societally it's obv necessary and right to hold people accountable for their actions no matter what, but that doesnt explain that on an individual (and varying biochemical) level people have different capacities to hold back certain impulses and it's kinda hard not to imagine "damn, what if i had done one stupid and completely regrettable thing that ended up changing everything about my life?" on many levels it's a very selfish thought but not an unreal one
also xp what deej just said
― brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
um, which kid am i supposed to feel "sorry for" because of the "banality of evil" here, because they all sound like dicks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bully_%28film%29
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm guessing Heather...?
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
this is all true but i thought strange men asking about asses was not momentary slip-ups but a repeating pattern of disgustingness
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
or are you guys still talking about whether thought control is good or bad