Oliver Stone's Decider biopic "W," starring Josh Brolin

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i was SHOCKED at how bad jeffrey wrights powell was - dude is usually so sweet

:(

goole, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

? What was wrong with the Powell performance?

Saying it has no plot is OTM though. The story is taken for granted and is framed as a light-handed, dual flashback series of vignettes. All the scenes are really short. here's no dramatic arc, no climax. I laughed my ass off though.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

it was just that he didnt sound or act at all like colin powell

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought it was laura who stepped on the corncob!

I don't think so - the shot immediately prior is of the hostess collaring George and walking through the backyard, then it cuts to a woman's sandal crushing the corncob, then back up to George seeing Laura.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I also enjoyed the preponderance of scenes involving people eating.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

After watching Taxi to the Dark Side this weekend, I think it'll be a while before I can laugh at this presidency.

Alex in SF, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

brolins bush is pretty hilarious

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

watching the cabinet meetings about the war is pretty harrowing.

horseshoe, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

brolin was great

horseshoe, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

totally left out the passive aggressive dick aspect of his persona tho

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

watching the cabinet meetings about the war is pretty harrowing.

I guess I have an outsized capacity for black humor then cuz when Cheney whipped out his Middle East Empire powerpoint presentation I was lolling hardcore

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i was AMAZED at the size of josh brolins head

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

favorite moment: Dubya patting his dad on the shoulder saying "good President, good President" like you would to a dog after Poppy loses re-election

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

also earlier advising him to not think too much cause it just screws you up

888 (ice crӕm), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I admit I was a little disappointed that Stone didn't go all the way with the Dubya-sees-God moment when he collapses during the jog. But it woulda been a little too comedic/over-the-top to have some silly Charlton Heston figure coming out of the clouds, I guess....

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i went with a group of about six last night who were split down the middle w/r/t its merits. very much flawed - the Rice character & a couple of others were like mediocre SNL parodies. of course the daddy issues were beat to death. a lot of Bush's public verbal gaffes and infamous malaprops were clumsily reprised in the film's staff meetings - which themselves were equal parts lols & ;_;... but yeah the plot, as it were, was kind of threadbare.

Even so, i was definitely in the camp that ultimately enjoyed it. Dreyfus & Cromwell were great, as was whoever played Rumsfeld's daft ass. And I gotta say Brolin did a pretty surefooted job of evoking Dubya. Better than Travolta's "clinton" in Primary Colors, imho. one thing everyone agreed on is that it was just really, really sad. Too soon?

wo many xposts

flyover statesman (will), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah Wright's Powell was kind of weak.

flyover statesman (will), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved how all Rummy's lines were impenetrable pseudo-philosophical gibberish

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

and yeah for all the laughs it was pretty sad. ending shot was fantastic.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

as was whoever played Rumsfeld's daft ass

The great Scott Glenn.

jaymc, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

How was Karl Rove?

caek, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link

weirdly small, but good.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

isn't it the dude from the non-phillip seymour hoffman Capote movie?

velko, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i liked wright! i thought the scene where he's argued into supporting the war was great. and fuck you dick

s1ocki, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

every scene involving sports in this was so fucked up

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

- george bush choked on a pretzel while watching a dolphins/ravens playoff game on a sunday night, not on a saturday during a college game
- at the end of the movie when gwb supposedly swells with pride as the UT baseball team scores a run (we know this because the announcer says this) they are showing the univ of miami scoring (ryan bruan, in fact) on UT
- sammy sosa was still on the rangers in 1990, also bush wouldn't have regretted trading him until he broke out in 98

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Why does Oliver Stone think Karl Rove is a gay, with all that flamboyant "fabulous" interjecting?

The way-not-drawn-to-scale map of teh world with a gigantic Iran dwarfing the rest of Asia that Cheney pulls down in the power-point was major lols, and Brolin was fine, but ultimately this movie was a hollow, forgettable dud. I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:05 (fifteen years ago) link

sammy sosa was still on the rangers in 1990

No, he was on the White Sox, but you're right about the last part. The Sox traded him to the Cubs a year later for George Bell.

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Why does Oliver Stone think Karl Rove is a gay, with all that flamboyant "fabulous" interjecting?

what? i don't think the movie was trying to portray him as gay at all.

I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 07:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i also lol'd at the Fox News caricatures jizzing all over themselves during the Mission Accomplished circus.

flyover statesman (will), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

tho i hesitate to call them caricatures, as there was very little exaggeration going on.

flyover statesman (will), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link

haha ya. "women are LOVING him"

s1ocki, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

"could you imagine a Democrat doing that?! Of course not!"

flyover statesman (will), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The woman who plays Ann Coulter was brutally attacked in her home Monday morning.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

UH

the valves of houston (gbx), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

That was a pretty debbiedowner thing for me to do. Sorry. It's just all over the news here since she's a local anchorwoman.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

damn. what was her name?

flyover statesman (will), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

SHE'S NOT PLAYING ANN COULTER.

sorry to shout but if i was this poor woman i'd shoot myself on top of being stabbed -- she is given a completely different name in the film, she is rather explicitly meant to be generic media bimbo, looks nothing like ann coulter, and if she was supposed to be ann coulter i'm pretty sure stone would've had the cajones to CALL her ann coulter considering that everyone else in the goddamned movie was a real person.

everyone and their brother in the media is referring to her as "arkansas's ann coulter" or having played ann coulter in the film -- it isn't true. quite frankly the 30 seconds we get with the character she did play bore no resemblance whatsoever to ms coulter besides a) having a vagina b) being blonde.

END OF RANT.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

if only everyone watched this film as closely as jordan did.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Have we verified that Ann Coulter has a vagina?

Pipe Wrench Fight (HI DERE), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait who stepped on the corn cob again?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't seen the movie personally, but I had been told she played Ann Coulter.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't imagine Stone would want to get Coulter moist (or whatever chemical consequences are precipitated by her ego-ecstasy) by dramatizing her on the silver screen.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

her adam's apple starts to throb

flyover statesman (will), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Was it done like the "Jack Rose" character in Any Given Sunday?

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Scott McClellan on W.

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I am half-joking, okay, but gee..why couldn't the real Ann Coulter be attacked? Is it because her robotic components would blow a fuze and explode

Oliver Stone hasn't made a profitable film at the BO since Born on the 4th of July. That's 19 years folks...when will it end

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

JFK, NBK, and Any Given Sunday all made money.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link


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