Tiger Woods car/life crash

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In the latest bombshell in the Tiger Woods story, Jamie Jungers told Meredith Vieira this morning on Today that Tiger fully pursued her, that they were like “girlfriend and boyfriend” and that he didn’t try to hide her.

During the year-and-a-half relationship, he only mentioned wife Elin Nordegren one time. According to Jamie, Tiger made no effort to hide her: They went out to restaurants, they went out together, and they were even photographed together.

As for allegations she was paid for sex, Jamie said she actually never took money from Tiger, and that the reason they broke up was that Tiger wouldn’t help her when she had financial troubles. What’s more, Jamie says couldn’t be with someone who wouldn’t help her out in that way. Still, she said all she got from the relationship was “a broken heart.”

wait... but... I... ?_?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I still can't believe that I only just found out Tiger's real name is Eldrick Tont Woods. I just thought his folks had given him a silly name... :)

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

important eldrick woods related post http://lyfesrsli.tumblr.com/post/268000299/eldrick-woods

ice cr?m, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, whenever jim rome referred to tiger as "eldrick" i just thought it was a goofy dungeonmaster nickname

Mr. Big STFU (ojo), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Sportscenter guys used to occasionally refer to the Detroit Eldricks...

WmC, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I have to admit that, were my given names Eldrick Tont, I too might try to fill the fathomless hole in my soul with a never ending assmbly line of skank poontang.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

that poor girl. bet she had to cover half the check at dinner, too

k3vin k., Friday, 11 December 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

have to admit my head's still spinning trying to unpack that one

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

It's above all really, really stupid of Tiger.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I think we should just all him Baldrick from now on.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

*Call

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't recommend that a celebrity wantonly fuck around regardless of their proclivities because of the possible media-enhanced blow-back, but if you do, try not to be a total dick to your shagbuddies. I'm sure he felt he was being shaken down, and perhaps he was, but jeeze, dude, use your upper brain for a second or two and don't leave the lady with little other option than to sell her tell-all.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Would someone please shop Tiger's head onto Baldrick or Tony Richardson's onto Tiger when he's doing one of the two-handed fist pumps, please.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

It's above all really, really stupid of Tiger.

― l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White),

Stupidity born out of boredom, would be my guess.

WmC, Friday, 11 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Celebrity isolation, entitlement magnified by the constant ass-tonguing he gets from lick-spittles and hangers-on, and, doubtless, a certain desire to just be a kind of regular dude. To be fair, though, his reputation for quickly and artfully getting in the hole remains intact.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Would have thought the UK injunction to stop the whole Kir$+y G4ll4gh3r story.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"is to stop", even.

James Mitchell, Friday, 11 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

you know who's coming out of this looking awesome? is Elin, is who:

It also emerged last night that Tiger is in hiding after one of his TEETH was broken when furious wife Elin hurled a mobile phone at him

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2765656/Shamed-golfer-Tiger-Woods-alleged-to-have-lost-a-tooth-in-row.html#ixzz0ZQDFoVOx

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't they known each other for ages?

xpost

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The Sun is awesome. On the same page they say that his wife is going back home and also say that she's staying in the marriage. Wtf?

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Having experienced the diluted version of Scandinavian passive-aggression growing up, I'm surmising she's just not going to make it easy for him.

special vixens unit (suzy), Friday, 11 December 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/12/11/sports/AP-GLF-Tiger-Woods.html?hp

I think this entire debacle is an epic fail / terribly sad on so many levels. He's an idiot, but wow...

youcangoyourownway, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

he typically takes december and january off anyway so this is strictly pr

call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Christmas just got cancelled at Tim Finchem's house.

WmC, Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i can't wait for bill simmons' inevitable, "buddy if you have to cheat, cheat like this!" column w/a point-by-point list of protips from his vegas buddies.

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Saturday, 12 December 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

tiger woods is gone off the golf because of you

(i wanted to revive the marissa m. thread but it was LOCKED BY AN ADMIN)

Siberian Klaatu (get bent), Saturday, 12 December 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe, but it's hard to be the face of Accenture when you're a punchline

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, December 9, 2009

Accenture first sponsor to cut ties with Woods: http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ap-tigerwoods-accenture&prov=ap&type=lgns

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 13 December 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Neat bit written here by a local columnist:

http://www.peteramescarlin.com/node/70

...More than a man, more than the vast majority of professional athletes, he has become a projection: The embodiment of all the dreams, fantasies and fears we have for ourselves.

It’s virtually the only life Woods has ever had. Which may be why he has been so successful at using his own media persona as a combination shield, power source and marketing device. Just as he does on the golf course, he’s played all the angles, breezes, hills and hazards to his own advantage. The only trap he never anticipated was how his own ability to focus on himself could work against him. And once it did, how quickly the media narrative can pivot from unquestioning adulation to unrelenting contempt...

kingfish, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

there was a man in the train today with a sign that said "defend tiger"

Do you love me now? (surm), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

'lion cheetah tiger' still the best pun we've gotten out of this.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

“We build people up just to rip them apart,” said Dr. Lee Wilkins, who teaches media ethics in the University of Missouri’s journalism school. “It’s pretty grotesque when you think about it.”

see i don't really buy this line on this particular story. i mean, ok, yes, right, we all know that. but tiger's problem is not "just being human" or however the media critics would put it. what i think is under-discussed or appreciated is how much this whole thing reveals about the kind of privilege and entitlement conferred by wealth and status. the deadspin article started to get into that, talking about how this was a not-uncommon sort of thing for millionaire athletes. but it's not just athletes; millionaires of all kinds live in this realm of private clubs and resorts, personal services that can requisition whatever you want, and it all leads to a whole lot of what most people would consider pretty gross behavior. that's the aspect that i think is most interesting, and just making this a story of one man's sins sort of obscures that.

and ok, there's nothing new or shocking about rich people being pigs. but we don't really hear enough about it, i don't think. every individual case of excess is treated as an individual case of excess, not as a symptom of some fundamental rot in a society that has spent the last several decades transferring more and more of our wealth to a small number of people at the top. and that's why i think the "oh we build them up to tear them down" narrative is deeply suspect, because it makes us somehow responsible for their abuses of power and wealth. it's this whole icarus bullshit, "oh we expect them to fly too close to the sun," blah blah blah. i'm sure tiger woods has a lot of pressures and a lot of problems, but so do lots of people in america, and they don't have millions of dollars to go drown their sorrows in porn stars and ambien. (still really don't get the ambien thing.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

off with their heads, is what i'm saying.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link

what most people would consider pretty gross behavior

hmm, maybe most people would consider it pretty gross behaviour, but then if most people were millionaires i'm not certain they'd be behaving any differently wrt to their own preferred indulgences & fuck whatever 'most people' think.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

and ok, there's nothing new or shocking about rich people being pigs. but we don't really hear enough about it, i don't think. every individual case of excess is treated as an individual case of excess, not as a symptom of some fundamental rot in a society that has spent the last several decades transferring more and more of our wealth to a small number of people at the top.

Okay, yeah, there's a point to this.

yeah, but we _never_ look at things from a systemic view. Simple direct causation is the rule of the day, even we know that's bullshit. It's like what happens when we have a mass shooting. Each thing is a self-contained, unrelated act, a lone gunman who suddenly went mad one day. Everything else in modern culture is just fine, there's only this one bad thing. Some people are just inherently bad.

Different people have written about this, the 'one Bad Apple spoils the barrel' thinking(I've most recently read Lakoff's take on it). Use that viewpoint, and the system is fine, just this guy went off. Remove him and everything will return to normalcy.

kingfish, Monday, 14 December 2009 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

f most people were millionaires i'm not certain they'd be behaving any differently

i think this is true up to a point, tho i think there are also some personality traits that lend themselves to the accumulation of wealth -- i.e. ambition, ego, greed and ruthlessness -- that also lead some fabulously wealthy people to behave particularly badly. but also, that sort of becomes more self-justification for powerful people to act abysmally. "your honor, i'm rich, what do you expect? i blame society!"

but ok, if we were going to say that wealth turns people into disgusting savages, then that would at least be healthier than this country's tendency to idolize and fawn over our upper 1 percent, like we're just so pleased that they're willing to grace us with their home spreads in architectural digest.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

(sorry, there's nothing like the prospect of unemployment to make one start to lose sympathy for misbehaving millionaires.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

if we were going to say that wealth turns people into disgusting savages

wealth, lack of consequences, fame, opportunity. opportunity more than any of them, maybe.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link

well we could take some of that opportunity away by raising their goddamn taxes!

it's funny how when wealthy people moan that raising their marginal rates will hurt job creation, they never make it clear that they mean jobs in the nightlife-personal-services sector.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link

fetish dominatrices of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains?

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I kind of doubt that the majority of millionaires lead sexually indulgent lifestyles or "act out" in major ways. I would think the majority of millionaires are crusty post-middle aged white dudes and unlikely to be playboys or majorly careless and irresponsible.

Wealth may partially explain Tiger's wanton behavior, but celebrity is far more likely to play a key role IMO.

Super Cub, Monday, 14 December 2009 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link

well the majority of millionaires are likely to be crusty old white dudes, so let's maybe allow that a physically fit billionaire under the age of 35 is in a slightly different category.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link

^Yes, but how many of those are there? 1?

So are we to surmise that physically fit billionaires under the age of 35 are morally depraved? Okay, but I think tipsy was making the point that TW's behavior is indicative of a larger pattern of behavior amongst the very rich.

Super Cub, Monday, 14 December 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i accept that point, and am just tryin to point out that there's a number of reasons we'd all like to be very rich, and being able to do what we want is one of them. a normal loving relationship is well and good if it's all you can get, but c'mon dude's a BILLIONAIRE

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link

plus we don't really know anything about the lives of most superrich celebrities. it's all projection. after all, poor people get up to all kinds of crazy shit, too.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 14 December 2009 06:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure tiger is more of an irredeemable horndog than your average multi-millionaire. (well i'm not actually sure of that, but i'm willing to grant that it's likely.) my point is that he exists in this world of incredible luxury and entitlement where whatever it is that you want to indulge yourself in is made readily available to you. and no, i don't think that is an unusual thing among the very wealthy. i think it's sort of part of the point of being very wealthy. and these kinds of clubs and vip rooms and whatever else it is that enables tiger's peccadilloes also exist to cater to your hedge fund traders and real estate moguls and corporate honchos. we only ever get to see into that world via either gorgeously lit and shot magazine spreads or through the occasional eliot spitzer/tiger woods/john-thain-office-furniture type scandal. but it exists all the time, fenced off and protected from normal expectations of behavior and personal accountability. and these stories never become about that, they always turn into individual psychoanalysis (why did it he do it? because of his father?) or thumbsucking media criticism (did we make him do it?).

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost:

poor people do get up to all kinds of crazy shit, but they tend to lack for lawyers and publicists.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I think he did it because he will never be full of himself tbh

囧 (dyao), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link

it was because he had an asian mom and a military father iirc

囧 (dyao), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

poor people usually also lack anyone really caring, from the other side of that particular coin

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link


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