Tiger Woods car/life crash

just talking about whether or not tiger did well to have pulled all these girls that are way, way hotter than him

I don't think that equates to a consequence free life.

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I gotta disagree: I think normal people have NO FUCKING IDEA what the super-rich get away with. Their lives are probably, in some ways, A LOT cheaper than ours, because everyone wants to do business with their money, so fees and expenses are wiped away, and the road is made smooth for them wherever they go.

^ Wow that is amazingly OTM. Relatively speaking, it's VERY expensive to be poor.

xpost yes laurel otm

I mean it's always comforting to pretend that celebrities are deeply hurt when a "crisis" such as this happens and when their "life falls apart" and feel all smug, but really.

unless you do something actually so batshit you actually get locked up properly in jail or lose all of your money or go completely mental bonkers or whatever.

laurel otm x2

No, actually, you can do something that would get a not-rich person jailtime and yet, it doesn't happen to you. You can even be batshit insane, and everyone keeps your secret and acts like your insane demands are realistic. Money insulates people from EVERYTHING in amazing ways.

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I gotta disagree: I think normal people have NO FUCKING IDEA what the super-rich get away with. Their lives are probably, in some ways, A LOT cheaper than ours, because everyone wants to do business with their money, so fees and expenses are wiped away, and the road is made smooth for them wherever they go.

Jungers also claims that Woods was "always tight with money." In addition to refusing her request for help when she needed money, she says he did not tip: "When we'd go out for dinner, he never left a tip or he'd ask for the meal to be complimentary because he was 'Tiger Woods'. I just thought that was cheap and it always embarrassed me."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/12/jamie-jungers-tiger-woods_n_390053.html

Him being a cheapskate fills me with more rage than just about anything else in this whole shitfest. I fucking HATE rich cheapskates.

xxp to kenc That's not quite what I mean, though. For instance, if you have bad credit, congrats, you just bought yourself 10x higher interest rates for everything, and if you don't drop back to just a cash-in-hand existence, you're throwing bad money after bad.

Him being a cheapskate fills me with more rage than just about anything else in this whole shitfest. I fucking HATE rich cheapskates.

Not tipping and trying to get things for free is disgusting and much worse than the harem of tacky mistresses imho.

The personal lives of famous people = wide open beavers inside

I don't even really know what Tiger Woods did or did not do, and fuck me sideways if I care

Not to be pseudo-righteous. I really honestly don't care.

I fucking HATE rich cheapskates.

Absolutely indefensible.

hmm so we're all just hating on the rich dude now.

and not the freeloader?

I'm hating on the rich dude who abuses the privilege.

I mean, yeah it goes on a lot:

There's a local celeb type person that seems to have some sort of arrangement with a local restaurant, I don't know who wants to be in that sort of position, I assume he's a millionaire..... Anyroad up, gets a meal, gets a very visible table, the night I saw him he had a party of about 10 people, one of whom was also famous.

Anyway, back in the room, at the end of the night, they get the whole place to do the conga, and so on, and every one goes home happy (I guess)...

Obviously the difference is that the restaurant is happy for all this to go on, no-one's going "hey waive the check right?" but as I say, 'it's another world sometimes....'

hmm so we're all just hating on the rich dude now.
― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:36 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm hating on the rich dude who abuses the privilege.
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hmm so we're all just hating on the rich dude now.

I reckon so.

Tiger may not tip but I believe he likes to go one eighth Dutch

I don't know that I'm hating on him, but I think it's just plain silly to forget that the world is different for the very rich. A lot of people of that status, we just barely ever hear about as they live in relative seclusion compared to "celebrities" except maybe on the social pages, and they go on making obscene money and being slightly crazy behind the scenes. It's different w people like TW because he WAS "one of us" who rose to his current crazy place.

nah, tiger woods was never raised as 'one of us', in fairness

i am not tiger woods

Fine, he was a sports prodigy but he wasn't, like, an ASTOR.

but in terms of how he was raised to view his own inevitable place, earl's parentoring etc

i think that more than wealth, is more likely to be a factor in how he's been treating the disposables that inhabit his world

so is okay if I hate him or not?

I mean, I've got things to do, I need a decision here.

it is okay

it is laudable for short term popularity, but will not make you a happier person.

or richer

unless you've previously shagged him and kept some text messages

or your stained blue dress

See, maybe it's good for dudes to hold off getting married 'til their mid-30s.

I really don't think age enters into it and that this would've gone down any differently if he was older.

if he was older it might have been a "concerned pimp cuts off supply of girls to tiger woods" story.

He gets his ya-yas out, settles down, plays golf...whole different story.

he's obviously got a lifetime supply of ya-yas that he's never going to be rid of, no matter at what age he gets married and pretends to take marriage seriously for the public.

i mean he and his wife have had 2 kids in the past couple years -- if that's not enough to get you to settle down and not be a shitty husband then you're always going to be a shitty husband at any age

doesn't seem to mind being hit by a golf club and mobile phone thrown at face - sounds like a pretty good husband to me

Dan Savage this week:

I suppose I'm obligated to say a few words about Tiger Woods. First, let's pretend that Elin Nordegren cheated on Tiger and that Tiger went after Elin with a golf club. Would Elin be viewed as the sole transgressor in the marriage then? Probably not. And second, daily papers and cable news outfits reacted to Tiger's "transgressions" by changing the names in the same "Why do powerful men cheat?" stories they've been pimping since Bill Clinton blew a load on a White House intern. For the millionth time: Men cheat for the same reasons women cheat, i.e., because they're bored or horny or unfulfilled or desperate to see someone else naked for a change. People cheat because monogamy isn't natural and we are wired to cheat. That doesn't make cheating right, of course; people should honor their commitments, and blah-de-nine-iron-blah. But we shouldn't encourage people to make commitments we all know they're unlikely to keep. The end.

i think this is just more arguments for the introduction of video technology in marriage?

I think it's pretty much established that he crossed the line.

i always thought dan savage underestimated the ability of people who were in awesome relationships to *not* give in to the urge to cheat.

yeah i get what savage is saying except i don't really know what this means:

But we shouldn't encourage people to make commitments we all know they're unlikely to keep.

blah-de-nine-iron-blah

He means "People cheat because monogamy isn't natural and we are wired to cheat." i.e., serial monogomy's fine if you want to make that commitment, but committing to it for a lifetime doesn't make much sense.

He seems to have gradually become more anti-marriage in the last year or two, or at least since I started listening to his podcast.

"Young men want to be faithful, and are not; old men want to be faithless, and cannot." - Oscar Wilde

yeah wmc it's his use of "we" as if we all got together and publicly pressured tiger woods to get married.

Yeah, he's jamming a macro-view and a micro-view together here and it's not fitting together perfectly.

Oscar Wilde OTM. Dan Savage misses the point of at least 3/4 of everything he says about monogamy, and he actually kinda pisses me off pretty much weekly. I've been listening to him for years, and the progression has been VERY slow, but I kinda think he might be a sick old pervert.