Oliver Stone's Decider biopic "W," starring Josh Brolin

UH

That was a pretty debbiedowner thing for me to do. Sorry. It's just all over the news here since she's a local anchorwoman.

damn. what was her name?

US TV anchorwoman Anne Pressly found badly beaten at home
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h3sRmbkYztmZI0Nrt0KBPjomlK1AD93UQVQ02

SHE'S NOT PLAYING ANN COULTER.

sorry to shout but if i was this poor woman i'd shoot myself on top of being stabbed -- she is given a completely different name in the film, she is rather explicitly meant to be generic media bimbo, looks nothing like ann coulter, and if she was supposed to be ann coulter i'm pretty sure stone would've had the cajones to CALL her ann coulter considering that everyone else in the goddamned movie was a real person.

everyone and their brother in the media is referring to her as "arkansas's ann coulter" or having played ann coulter in the film -- it isn't true. quite frankly the 30 seconds we get with the character she did play bore no resemblance whatsoever to ms coulter besides a) having a vagina b) being blonde.

END OF RANT.

if only everyone watched this film as closely as jordan did.

Have we verified that Ann Coulter has a vagina?

Wait who stepped on the corn cob again?

I haven't seen the movie personally, but I had been told she played Ann Coulter.

I can't imagine Stone would want to get Coulter moist (or whatever chemical consequences are precipitated by her ego-ecstasy) by dramatizing her on the silver screen.

her adam's apple starts to throb

Was it done like the "Jack Rose" character in Any Given Sunday?

Scott McClellan on W.

I am half-joking, okay, but gee..why couldn't the real Ann Coulter be attacked? Is it because her robotic components would blow a fuze and explode

Oliver Stone hasn't made a profitable film at the BO since Born on the 4th of July. That's 19 years folks...when will it end

JFK, NBK, and Any Given Sunday all made money.

surely others did as well

From that McClellan article:

" The most unflattering portrayal was that of Condi Rice, caricatured by Thandie Newton as a mere yes–woman, which is excessively denigrating but not entirely without basis."

Ouch!

World Trade Center made $162 million.

[I should have said "v profitable" I sppose since I was referencing this: " Of the dozen films Stone has made over the last 20 years, only the earliest—Platoon, Wall Street, and Born on the Fourth of July—were huge hits in the United States" -> http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lifestyle/culture-inc/arts/2008/10/16/W-the-Movie?PMID=alsoin/Bankrolling-W. He's had a terrible track record for almost 15 years now, but is in that minute group of directors that can keep getting their projects financed - by forgiving foreigners]

xpost Yeah but think of the cost in human life.

Also, just on a personal acct basis, he's a monstrous human being even by Hollywood standards - so it's hard for me to not cringe at his repeated opportunities for failure more so than those other directors

the foreigners are forgiving because his movies make money.

maybe his next topic can be The War on Drugs starring himself, and he'll never finish it

"monstrous"? why should I care what kind of a person he is? All his investors care about is whether the dough rolls in - doesn't matter if its dollars, pounds, sheckels, or yen

like lolz did you here Eric Von Stroheim was a sadist? Woody Allen married his daughter! Billy Wilder was a jerk! etc

" The most unflattering portrayal was that of Condi Rice, caricatured by Thandie Newton as a mere yes–woman, which is excessively denigrating but not entirely without basis."

Ouch!

the best scene she's in is when the they've all descended upon the ranch pre-strike and he's leading them down a dirt road, getting updates, handing out directives, etc. she's sort of jockeying for position, trying to walk right next to him as Rove, Cheney et al struggle to keep pace (or are just bored/ put out) with W.

and then he realizes he's misjudged their location. pretty funny.

x-post not over here. When his heavily promoted thing abt a super unpopular president opens 4th after a dog movie that's been around for 3 weeks and gets mixed-to-negative reviews, that's sad -

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/

W.'s on-target debut (SUCH LOW EXPECTATIONS -> $10m) still doesn't mean the movie will recoup its $30M mil budget , plus $25M marketing costs that included a surprisingly aggressive TV ad campaign emphasizing the script's humor. True, Hollywood never bets the farm on political fiction pics because they usually don't attract crowds. Small budget Wag The Dog and Bullworth receved a lot of attention but not a lot of business. Studio pic Primary Colors disappointed. Stone's own JFK was wildly successful, but his Nixon underperformed. Of course, none of these pics were biopics about a sitting U.S. president. It also served the pic well that Lionsgate had experience with this kind of controversial film: it released Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 which went on to open with a $24M weekend from just 868 theaters, and an eventual worldwide total of $222M. W. won't be in that league.

I don't really get what your point is. A lot of his movies make money. This one may not. So what?

I'm not saying his investors care how he is personally - and perhaps YOU don't care but yes other ppl who work in the biz, or have to encounter him, clearly do: his reputation is legendary and more than a few wish him the schadenfreude that is only reserved for the most heinous characters (Shyamalan, Bay, Weinstein, etc)

seems like a nice guy imo

Shyamalan, Bay,

the difference is these guys make terrible movies, without exception. Weinstein's just an exec so I don't care about him one way or the other

and again, he's a jerk = so what?

so your point is that he is a hollywood director who is disliked by a lot of people. why do you care

xp

people give jerks money all the time. particularly if they tend to MAKE money.

x-post

Bay makes spectacles, not movies; I think more people would enjoy his work if they came to grips with that.

Shyamalan made several good movies before disappearing far up his own ass.

*cue glasses pic*

I've hated all Shamalamadingdong's movies but obviously opinions vary. I've only seen a couple of Bay's "spectacles" and did not enjoy either of them.

I really liked "Signs" and "The Sixth Sense" and I think "Bad Boys II" is one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched.

My point is just to express frustration that he'll continue to get funded, that's all. I haven't seen anything of his I didn't regret since JFK, probably - but I didn't even bother with Any Given Sunday

>why do you care

Whoa..why am I not allowed to make a point here without being barraged by this...do I really need to tell you the personal 1st and 2nd hand accts of why Oliver Stone is a douchebag (which go back to a Any Given Sunday screening in 2000 for me, actually) without just expressing that I think he sucks?

the rock was pretty dope. the rest of bay's stuff sucks big-time. i have heard ok things about the island though.

Shamalamadingdong

^^^^this needs to stop

(let's just say it has to do with his treatment of women and end it at that. oh and also underlings he works with. and abusive behavior. thanks)

spill!

when will it end

I liked "The Island" a ton, too. And yeah, "The Rock" for life.

Shamalamadingdong

^^^^this needs to stop

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shakey mo on some "barack obamamamamamamama" shit

You Would Like To Be The Next M. Night Shamalamadingdong, But Your Blues Aren't Blue Enough And Sarah Michelle Won't Return Your Calls. Quick! What Nursery Rhyme Will You Use In Your Next Highly Deri

why am I not allowed to make a point here without being barraged by this...do I really need to tell you the personal 1st and 2nd hand accts of why Oliver Stone is a douchebag (which go back to a Any Given Sunday screening in 2000 for me, actually) without just expressing that I think he sucks?

you're allowed to make whatever point you want but not being able to separate an artist from his work seems like a bit of a stumbling block when it comes to properly evaluating film/music/art/whatever.

I mean Phil Spector's a wifebeater and a murderer, does that make "Be My Baby" a bad song?