Oliver Stone's Decider biopic "W," starring Josh Brolin

Bay makes spectacles, not movies; I think more people would enjoy his work if they came to grips with that.

Shyamalan made several good movies before disappearing far up his own ass.

*cue glasses pic*

I've hated all Shamalamadingdong's movies but obviously opinions vary. I've only seen a couple of Bay's "spectacles" and did not enjoy either of them.

I really liked "Signs" and "The Sixth Sense" and I think "Bad Boys II" is one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched.

My point is just to express frustration that he'll continue to get funded, that's all. I haven't seen anything of his I didn't regret since JFK, probably - but I didn't even bother with Any Given Sunday

>why do you care

Whoa..why am I not allowed to make a point here without being barraged by this...do I really need to tell you the personal 1st and 2nd hand accts of why Oliver Stone is a douchebag (which go back to a Any Given Sunday screening in 2000 for me, actually) without just expressing that I think he sucks?

the rock was pretty dope. the rest of bay's stuff sucks big-time. i have heard ok things about the island though.

Shamalamadingdong

^^^^this needs to stop

(let's just say it has to do with his treatment of women and end it at that. oh and also underlings he works with. and abusive behavior. thanks)

spill!

when will it end

I liked "The Island" a ton, too. And yeah, "The Rock" for life.

Shamalamadingdong

^^^^this needs to stop

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shakey mo on some "barack obamamamamamamama" shit

You Would Like To Be The Next M. Night Shamalamadingdong, But Your Blues Aren't Blue Enough And Sarah Michelle Won't Return Your Calls. Quick! What Nursery Rhyme Will You Use In Your Next Highly Deri

why am I not allowed to make a point here without being barraged by this...do I really need to tell you the personal 1st and 2nd hand accts of why Oliver Stone is a douchebag (which go back to a Any Given Sunday screening in 2000 for me, actually) without just expressing that I think he sucks?

you're allowed to make whatever point you want but not being able to separate an artist from his work seems like a bit of a stumbling block when it comes to properly evaluating film/music/art/whatever.

I mean Phil Spector's a wifebeater and a murderer, does that make "Be My Baby" a bad song?

phil spectordectorshmector

When you say "this needs to stop," do you mean corrupting his onerously pronounced name, or just him as a person...he just needs to STOP and spare us all? Because that's near-unanimous now

speaking of treatment of women, why was only Condi Rice the ridic. character in the cabinet, almost thrown in there for comic relief ? It became so atonal - and didn't really add anything except random lols

I think Elizabeth Banks did the best she had to work with

x-post I think Stone is despicable enough on a personal level, and he puts so much of him in his films (admirable at times) anyway, that it's harder for me to make the separation. But I still somewhat admire JFK (or rather, its editing)

shakey mo wanted to rape rachel ray, does that make "lol moar liek m night shamalamadingdong amirite" a bad post? wait, don't answer that

keep it up ethan

fightin the good fight

i bet rachel ray would put up a good fight, amirite

ethan

Shakey can't you just chill and leave it at why I may hate Oliver Stone for reasons you don't know, and that I am AWARE that that affects my discussion of his work, rather than bringing innocent, wonderful "Be My Baby" into this? Let's just go back to talking about the movie

ethananamadingdong

when i said "this needs to stop" i meant unfunny jokes about how INSANE shyamalan's name is. making fun of his movies seems pretty obligatory.

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SEE THIS HACKERY NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. GAH!

is everyone just really hungry or something

no, "shamalamadingdong" always makes me twitch.

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it's not going to stop til you wise up

fair enough

speaking of treatment of women, why was only Condi Rice the ridic. character in the cabinet, almost thrown in there for comic relief ?

um, everybody in the cabinet was pretty ridiculous/comic relief. I noted above that every single Rummy line was incoherent pseudo-philosophical babble. "Turdblossom" was totally obsequious, Cheney villainish, etc.

everyone in the cabinet was kind of a caricature, but also kind of human, except for Rice. i also thought Laura Bush was insufficiently characterized, but what are you going to do?

is J. Edgar Hoover in this?

everyone in the cabinet was kind of a caricature, but also kind of human, except for Rice.

really? how were Rumsfeld and Ari Fleisher "humanized"?

yeah, he plays barbara bush

yes he plays jenna bush

lol xp

i guess i think the performances were more than caricatures. all thandie newton did was mug. dreyfuss mugged + was believable as a person. an awful, disgusting person, but still.

with laura bush i just didn't really get why she liked him. maybe she felt sorry for him?

Mugging isn't always a pejorative.

okay, but i thought thandie newton sucked.

Lots of great performances in Stone movies consist of lots of mugging.

i'm not saying condoleeza rice has not been a yes-man for this administration; i just would have liked more from the movie than easy laughs at her face + voice.

Lots of great performances in Stone movies consist of lots of mugging.

best example is Tommy Lee Jones playing the warden as Daffy Duck in NBK (tho "great" might be going a little far)

NBK is the last Stone movie I saw, I think.

or basically anyone in JFK!

dreyfus + brolin both gave great performances that consisted of a lot of mugging; i know what you guys mean. newton sucked.

nohn bitzgerald kennedy

Joe Pesci in JFK = great performance that's completely absurd.

JFK is definitely the single most entertaining Stone flick