UEFA Champions League 05/06, this is the thread for

Bring back teh Cup Winners Cup and shift UEFA places back into the leagues. Abandon all group stages. Champions only in the Champions League, which we'll now have to rename because there are no league stages - I suggest European Champions Cup, or European Cup for short.

Nah, it'll never work.

Also, long shorts, high-topped football boots made of mammoth leather, balls made of pig's bladders with cowhide stitching, caps with concentrci circles on them and carefully waxed handlebar moustaches.

Aye, I forgot about the moustaches. More of them.

Oh, and while we're at it - if you are offside you are offside. End of.

The UEFA cup was good when it was made up of the seconds, thirds and fourths, but it's been completely devalued since all of those teams went into the CL. But I've got no problem with non-champions being in the European Cup - I'm quite happy for there to be just one tournament, with all the top teams in it (so long as 'the top teams' means the ones who finish highest, and not some kind of G14 permanent membership). Otherwise the European Cup would be (and arguably was, in terms of quality of competition, rather than stature) worse than the UEFA Cup. So one big competition with all the top teams is fine by me. But nobody gives a fuck about group stages - they're just the tedious bit to get out the way before the real knockout fun gets started. The only reason we have them is for guaranteed revenue, but teams shouldn't be in it for the £££s, they should be in it to try and win it. Then you might get rid of this obsession where just being in the CL becomes the be-all and end-all, and teams would no longer be happier (say) finishing 4th in the premiership and going out in the group stages of the CL, than finishing 5th, winning the FA Cup, and losing the final of the CL.

are there any of the london supporters at all tho who wd rather win the champions' league than the premiership? i'm a born & bred liverpool supporter and i would kill for a(nother) premiership title.

dude, we've never won the Premiership

jesus that hurt

This may sound harsh, but I really, really hope you don't win the league again until 2016 at the earliest.

hmm, we must go for a fight pint soon ;)

porkpie, refering to "the premiership" as a seperate identity to "the league" means you have been badly brainwashed in the worst possible way.

sorry, didn't notice the capital P ;)

and no, I haven't been brainwashed

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B-b-but it's you that used the word Premiership. You could have just said "I would kill for another league title" and then this whole nasty business need never have happened.