Do you take drugs? Why?

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Ack!!! That's what happens when you have two window open simultaneously.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:28 (twenty years ago) link


That's a different room. Yellow blinds, yellow shag carpeting, one wall with old-timey airplane wallpaper, the rest with equally hideous wallpaper of criss-crossing lines of different primary colors.

Oops took the brown acid...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:29 (twenty years ago) link

I've been pretty slow when it comes to this stuff. I was almost 20 before I was ever drunk, and I didn't even smoke pot until a year and a half ago. Now I do, maybe once a month. (Mostly I do it while listening to music with a bandmate.) The only other drug I have any interest in doing is mushrooms; I've heard too many horror stories about everything else.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:29 (twenty years ago) link

Without smoking or without inhaling? Cause the best way of all is a vaporizer. Do a google search on it.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:29 (twenty years ago) link

What's the best way to take weed/marijuana/whatever without smoking it?

Your really don't want to know.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

Then I won't tell my shrooming horror story.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmm, maybe not.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:34 (twenty years ago) link

Drugs, meh. I don't care about the health risks, I always just remember what a friend of mine who did some work in Colombia told me, horror stories about coke kingpins down there who would murder entire families if they felt one member of it posed a threat to their business. Seriously, legalize it all, because until then you're putting money into the pockets of vile cunts.

I've done weed before, I've been high, but it was pretty disgusting. Can't stand the smell or the effect.

Now I'm gonna go drink and fight Mike Skinner http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/upset.gif

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:36 (twenty years ago) link

mei-obviously, "pot brownies"! yummy!

Emilymv (Emilymv), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:37 (twenty years ago) link

evil things.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:38 (twenty years ago) link

Oops, sometimes I think about a moment in EJ Br0nkema's class when some people were talking about how bad marijuana was, and J@y C0llins rolled his eyes, and I said something along the lines of "I feel ya, bro ... I mean, I don't smoke pot now, but there's always college, right?" And he was all like, "Haha, what's up, you my boy." Of course, the irony is, I never actually smoked pot in college.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:38 (twenty years ago) link

A friend of mine when we were about sixteen: "Don't worry, the funny guys all get laid in college".

Back to your drugs thread, people.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

You can make THC cooking oil and butter, so pot brownies are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to foods you can make that'll get you high.

Who was dissing the herb? You went to Kalamazoo, right john? I thought everyone there was required to smoke pot.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

oh back in college it was a non stop psychedlic explosion but hardly ever any more. It did become increasingly less fun and landed me in the hospital once as well with heart problems. Still, I managed to LOOSE an entire bottle of liquid LSD somewhere in my house last year so if anyone finds it, let me know. I still smoke pot but only very rarely because I have to smoke so much to enjoy it that it messes up my lungs and does bad things to my skin.

K*** M**** (akmonday), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:44 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck, I don't actually know what the conversation was about, except I felt it necessary to tell Jay that I was "cool."

Yeah, there were plenty of pot-smokers at Kzoo, but I fell in with a pretty straight-edge crowd fairly early and then never had much interest in it.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

From what I've heard, Jay's been smoking for quite awhile. I think he got Dan Sp1nab3lla who I first smoked with-- started, which is almost inconceivable---I can't imagine someone being the weed sensai to him. I didn't start until the end of that year, junior year. I thought it was bad and didn't want to kill my brain cells. hahahahaha *sigh*

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm, so reading my older entry on this thread I have to say my answer hasn't changed really except that I've become more honest.

-I drink. When I allow myself to be, I am a complete drunk. I drink less lately b/c I have a job that kicks my ass and I simply can't do it while drinking heavily. However give me the freedom and yeah, I'll drink yr bitch ass under the table.

-I've went through brief stoner periods in the past. I can understand stoners. Sometimes I think I should really be a stoner and not a drunk. But, see, I have asthma and pot makes me super sleepy so. . . that said I've recently been thinking I should look into getting a regular supply as I think it would help with the stress of teaching.

-My hardcore, yeah-I'm-a-degenerate-and-proud-of-it, drug of choice is Cocaine. White lady I love you. I like drinking and pot but they slow me down and dull me. Coke heightens everything and takes me to scary and thrilling peaks I don't experience otherwise. Yeah it's a scary drug for a reason. There have been times were I would do it about two times a month. It was often available and I had to exercise extreme self-control to resist. My lifestyle is different now. It isn't so readily available so when it is presented to me I accept it without a second thought. It's quite simple: I love doing coke. I'm not addicted to it but I see how that could happen. I rarely, if ever, seek it out. If it's been three months or so since I did it I'll be wanting it and putting some feelers out. However, I'm not beating down the doors of known back-alley dealers every weekend. It's good times every now and then but would kill me quickly if I indulged on a regular basis. (that said I haven't had any since august and am trying to score this weekend.)

I don't like speed as much but still won't turn it down if offered. I've never ever bought it. The main reason I don't like it is b/c my mother was a speed freak and it wrecked my adolescence. For the same reason I would never, ever shoot up. Catching your parents spiking their veins really kills that for you. It ain't the same as having them blaze up or snort lines in front of you, trust me.

I know a lot of people hate coke, that's fine. Don't judge me though, cause you don't know me. You don't like it? Fine. I don't do drugs in front of people who aren't down with it. It's a drag for all concerned. But if you want to try and preach to me I'll fuckin' take you down. I'm an adult, you're an adult. Deal with it.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:56 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't done coke for about 3 or 4 years. Only done it about a dozen times total. As soon as the effect wears off, I WANT MORE. That's scary. Luckily, it's not around as much as it used to be but if someone offered me a line or two, I wouldn't hesitate to do it. Probably BECAUSE it isn't around and I wouldn't risk becoming addicted. I should really stay away from it though since I have a heart murmur.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:03 (twenty years ago) link

I hate that this thread makes me feel like such a pussy.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:06 (twenty years ago) link

I smoke and drink - though not particularly to get drunk, because drunk me == asleep like the dead me - but have given up pot and speed. Not for any particular reason, just that pot sends me straight to sleep and I never managed to get any decent speed, ever (also, a mate of mine lost all his teeth through grinding them too much together while on speed. gah). Now I'm too busy spending my money on records to think about anything else. Being a control freak as I am, all other drugs are pretty much never an option. I haven't full-on given up, though: last time I had to go to a party of an old friend I ended up getting stoned with strangers as an alternative to talking to people I used to know.

cis (cis), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:06 (twenty years ago) link

xp:

(Even though, you know, I don't actually have much interest in doing any drugs besides pot.)

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:07 (twenty years ago) link

One of the first times I did coke with a friend he started discussing his history homework (on the Victorian parliamentary system), and I just remember thinking "man, I can hear this shit in school".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

I also wonder if it'd be different if drugs had been around me more. I mean, in college, I'd have known where to get stuff if I wanted it, but I wasn't necessarily friends with those people.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:09 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, when I went out for some dude's birthday earlier this year and found out halfway through the night that he'd just done coke in the bathroom, I about flipped!

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:09 (twenty years ago) link

I think everyone should do mushrooms once.
I'd love to find some DMT. Very intrigued by everything I've heard about it.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

once while spectacularly high I became CONVINCED that all people in the US were on drugs, and not in the "everything is a drug" sense, but in the literal "every single person is stoned or on coke or dosing!" sense, then I got very paranoid and freaked the fuck out.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

then I got very paranoid and freaked the fuck out

Kyle, did you know that 80% of your anecdotes finish with this statement? ;)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

Not that I mean to make you paranoid or anything...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

Tried pot once, sucked, never want to try anything else ever again, drugs fuckin suck, decriminalize them all.

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:14 (twenty years ago) link

I never did anything other than pot and alcohol until four years out of college. Made up for lost time though. . .

btw, I think drugs should be absolutely decriminlized. When presented with some anti-drug essay contest or whatever at school i never, ever have my students participate. I choose not to push that agenda. I have *huge* problems with our government's attitude towards drugs and, well, quite frankly I'm not a fucking hyprocrite. How in the hell am I supposed to lead my students in some propaganda DARE bullshit when I'm planning to go on a coke binge on the weekend? I am painfully honest, at least to myself, about these things.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Saturday, 15 November 2003 10:17 (twenty years ago) link

I used to be a pretty heavy pot smoker, every night after school, it didn't mess me up at all. I was completly open with my parents about it, explaining what it was and why I used it, they were cool with it in the end. I always made myself finish any school work/serious music practise/household chores etc before I would finally allow myself to sit down, skin up and relax for the night.

This might sound a little weird but the main reason I smoked pot was for listening to music. Im sure some can relate to this...being a musician, whenever I listen to music I tend to overanalyse everything...listening to it with a musical ear:

"oh that's a nice minor 7th" "mmm, listen to that snare sound, mmm"

Somehow the mystical powers of pot allowed me to experience music in a different way. I loved to do the thing where you sit in a pitch black room, get stoned, turn the music up loud and forget about anything else going on in your life, any kind of personal context and just get (whoa..trippin' out here) 'lost in the music'.

Nowadays, on my Gap year, I have noone that I can get pot off, so I've had to stop smoking, its been tough getting out of the pot-smokers routine. Have only been smoking occasional ciggerettes most likely due to a slight nicotine addiction. I have decided that I'm not going to ever go back to smoking as much as I was before. I don't know how to describe the difference between being someone who smokes every night, and now, when I barely ever have a smoke, but there is a difference, and I'm not sure if its a bad thing or a good thing, just different.

As to the getting drunk vs getting high debate, like others above, I really do think it depends on the level of intoxication, the person, the situation. Although, personally I have never had a bad drug experience (pot, coke, ketamine, schrooms and satvia) while I have had many, many horrible experiences with alcohol.

TomB (TomB), Saturday, 15 November 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

Is Geir on this thread anywhere? Point out if he is, please.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 15 November 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link


once while spectacularly high I became CONVINCED that all people in the US were on drugs, and not in the "everything is a drug" sense, but in the literal "every single person is stoned or on coke or dosing!" sense, then I got very paranoid and freaked the fuck out.

But they ARE!

nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 15 November 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

I've gone thru like two tubs of vick's vapo rub in the last day

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 15 November 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

I smoked pot a bit, mostly socially. I never enjoyed it enough to buy my own.

Cocaine is awful stuff, no matter how much I enjoyed it. As noted, you always want more, and it's not that much fun when you're on it, you just really notice when you're not

Hallucinogens - I scared myself pretty good with five hits of liquid acid the first time I tripped, never did it again. Mushrooms, on the other hand, are God's Own Drug.

Ecstasy - I refused to try it when it was a bit party/rave drug, since everyone I knew in that scene was useless, and I hated the music. Did it a dozen times in small groups of friends, never enjoyed the ramp-up or peak, but I really enjoyed the come-down, sitting around talking (with the emotional high still in effect, but not the physical).

It's now been two years since I tried any illegal substance. sXe forever! (ugh)

Alcohol - Sometimes I think I'm an alcoholic, or borderline, though I was a binge-drinker three or four nights a week instead of drinking seven nights. Sober (in that I haven't been drunk) in two years. I drank mostly for the usual loser reasons - depression, boredom, because there was nothing else to do. I quit when I hit rock-bottom emotionally and creatively, and have been trying to deal with it ever since. It's scary for me, because I still think about alcohol whenever things are going badly or I'm in a tough position, and I don't want to be the way I was, drinking to forget problems/reality.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 15 November 2003 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

Drugs??!!! Never!

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

I smoke 'em if you got 'em, but I never buy it myself. I drink socially probably about two-four days a week. Glad I've done robitussin, not doing it again. And I've seen Phil pass out while saying "time to go to bed" and holding Wild Turkey in one hand and a chicken leg in the other.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 16 November 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

once while spectacularly high I became CONVINCED that all people in the US were on drugs

I suspect that some of the more virulent antidrug types are hopping themselves up on the adrenalin of righteous indignation.

I've tried pot 3 or 4 times, but never got any pleasure out of it; this is the only illegal drug I've ever tried. The other drugs have an unrealistic glamor for me because I've never tried them. However, I don't know anyone right now who is openly into drugs, who would be willing to share them with me, and given my life this is not likely to change in the near future.

I also drink alcohol regularly, and I agree with those who say that it too is a drug -- not to be a straight-edge killjoy, but to acknowledge that it has effects in small and large doses. (I also think sugar and corn syrup have psychoactive effects, and maybe should be regulated accordingly.)

Sometimes I think that alcohol could provide a framework for the decriminalization of drugs -- while some people fuck up their lives on alcohol, many more are capable of keeping it from overwhelming their lives. But a lot of Americans seem to operate on the principle of "NOTHING in moderation."

j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

Chicken legs are strong and powerful stuff.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

But its a gateway substance that leads to pork chops if you're not careful!

j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, you can replace all mentions of marijuana in those PSAs they run now with alcohol and they'd still remain true. Like that shows a lil kid about to drown in a pool because "you got stoned". Or "you forgot to pick up your brother from school....because YOU GOT STONED YOU DRUG CRAZED MONSTER!"
Yes, don't smoke weed if you're supervising kids, driving, etc, just like you shouldn't drink in those situations.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

and definitely not eat PORK CHOPS you decadent siiner!

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

How can you tolerate supervising kids without mind-altering chemicals, though?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

"Dosed Chops, only $5.99/lb!"

Jay Dee Sah Mon (Kingfish), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:45 (twenty years ago) link

Milo, I never said you shouldn't get the kids stoned.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 16 November 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I drink sparingly, but when I'm not in class I'm stoned probably 70% of my waking hours. I also enjoy acid thoroughly, though it's never available.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 1 March 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

ha ha I can't believe I never posted to this thread before. My loves for caffeine and booze and the sweet cheeba I'm sure are well known by now all over ILX. This is by far not the extent of my neurochemicalfuckingwith diet, but it is the meat+potatoes.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 1 March 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

'tis true, nicka.
but i've got you beat - acid, coke, e, mdma, shrooms, tha chronic (lots of it) + 2cb all in the last year. yet i won't touch coffee because it makes me all jittery and makes my head hurt the next day.
go figureĀ”

dyson (dyson), Monday, 1 March 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

i used to do everything and anything and now I have to regulate my coffee intake or I go nuts. Still have the odd bowl now and again.
I am suprised by the amount of "drugs are silly posts" further above.
Always took ILMers to be a libertarian bunch.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 05:21 (twenty years ago) link

I have tried pot, half-heartedly, twice: once when sad, once when drunk. I have never done any other kind of drug.

I drink though, and guzzle caffeine like a camel, except it's coffee and Mountain Dew and tea instead of water. Plus, camels got humps.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 06:33 (twenty years ago) link


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